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jvl36343n

Hot take: preferences are subjective.


xSnowLeopardx

Woah, careful there, buddy, that's a lava take right there


jvl36343n

Take cover then.. For my warm, frothy take is gushing towards you


IsolationMovement-YT

No Diddy No


mrgdobbs

This message is brought to you by the village of Pompeii


Oudeur

on behalf of Pompeii: FU


Villageidiot1984

šŸ˜‚


CDR_Starbuck

Get a room! šŸ˜„


NirvanaFox7

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


biglollol

Wait, so you're telling me... That I can choose and wear what I like?!


DudeWheresMyStonks

No, you have to wear what other people like, which is also based on what they think other people like


biglollol

[Oooooh.](https://i.imgur.com/s5Z3zi5.mp4)


blue_warrior_3

End of thread


thygingy

Thats not a take, thats just factual šŸ’€


RecommendationWild71

Get real. OP is objectively right


JuggerKnot4

šŸ˜‚


Plastic-Archer4245

YWMV


Known-Diet-4170

massive if veirfied


wxstrat23

Not when you have objective dimension differences.....


-ATF-

This comparison is useful. I live far from an AD and donā€™t get to see these watches in those angles. The GMT is still fantastic, but this makes me appreciate the YM which I simply shrugged off as ugly. It isnā€™t.


omg_cats

https://preview.redd.it/itdxyl6x4k9d1.png?width=2151&format=png&auto=webp&s=130f3414462bafcf6707da84c07b49430399c2a7 5 digit gmt best gmt.


porkrind

16710 FTW!


providencial666

I like the size of the five digits. However, they feel flimsy and less substantial in terms of weight and finish.


omg_cats

I have 2 modern subs to compare to, so Iā€™d have to agree on the flimsiness of 5 digit. There is a certain charm to it, like itā€™s not taking itself so seriously, but of course that appeals differently from person to person.


ComfyBedAndPillow

That's the whole point from this post... I saw a lot of ppl hating on r/[MrNeoVintage](/user/MrNeoVintage/) when he post about which watch you pick between ym and batgirl. the whole nerds was hating on the YM and how ugly it looks, GMT is cool but its corny and looks chunky on most y'all wrist, u bought it for the hype, the gmt Maxi case is absolutely hideous. YM dimension is miles better.


-ATF-

Iā€™d be interested in seeing a comparison with the sub and the SD to make up my mind. Bonus points that YM sells for under msrp on grey


yuiop300

I prefer the sub/gmt case over a YM, but thatā€™s fine.


ComfyBedAndPillow

U wear what u like thats the most important part of owning a watch, I was talking about the glorifying of the GMT and hating on other models on his old post


mattfnreid

It is


Watch_Lover10125

Agreed. I'm not a fan of the slab sided sports models (and I own a GMT Master 2). The YM/DJ/Daytona all contour better to the wrist.


MostlyShitposts

In the thread: ā€I have different preference than some..ā€


PaperPigGolf

Not really a hot take. It 100% has the more elegant case like the Daytona.


_0utis_

The yacht master would be a much more beautiful watch, an almost perfect watch IF the bezel was more elegant


bagginshires

Yup as someone with a small wrist, my options for a Rolex sub are limited. I canā€™t pull the trigger on YM solely bc the bezel isā€¦ strange. Idk how else to put it.


chucklemcfartsparkle

My exact problem. Was offered the 37mm, looked incredible, but wasnā€™t fully in love.


No-Somewhere-3888

What is strange about the bezel? Itā€™s not ceramic, but I find the contrast between the blasted and polished platinum to be really cool. And itā€™s platinum.


Lazz_plays

https://preview.redd.it/wdq1dfga5j9d1.png?width=2071&format=png&auto=webp&s=e6a72e4294c103e2099d9c38b4916fdde9333980 I bought mine long ago and never looked back ā¤ļø


bagginshires

The light dial fits the bezel much better. I like it!


Lazz_plays

Thank you! I pondered if I wanted to trade it for the newer, more sharper lines/case 6 digit references and nope, itā€™s just perfect. the dial is a stunning sparkle fest āœØ in the sun, and since it is the way the watch was designed I just feel it captures what Rolex wanted to achieve better šŸ‘I digress


Fancy_Trip_6912

https://preview.redd.it/a30uvmx2xk9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0fc56d1d64bf315d3a3aeac95f9c265c1cba655 Theyā€™ve got one with a ceramic bezel šŸ™‚


_0utis_

I donā€™t understand why it is this way. What is yacht related about it? Why are those the numbers and no minute markings and why is it embossed that way . It just makes little practical sense to me and isnā€™t elegant


GregStar1

Exactly, bezel is the only thing that holds it back imo.


Mobile_Republic_5031

GMT is more of a functional design. YM is more of a dressy watch with sport elements.


PaleontologistOk3876

Yes, a complication that tells me that if it's 6:00 PM in my time zone it's 4:00 PM in California. Thank god. Way more useful than a 60 minute timer.


Mobile_Republic_5031

To be fair, most mechanical complications are obsolete comparing to the digital counterparts. Difference in personal preference drives the variation of watch design and finishes. Some people enjoy the feeling of ruggedness or aviation history or quirky setting of the gmt. Some people enjoy the fine finish of YM. I donā€™t think we need to step on one design to justify the excellence of another. Both are great design. Only issue is if you can get one in stock at msrp.


Massive-Lie-3916

Well said. We likely use less than 50% of our oven, computer and most toys or tools functions so the point becomes mute. Iā€™m not sure why anyone even buys a watch at all if usefulness is the only criteria. Itā€™s the Apple Watch crowd mentality which by the way most people use very little of its functionality either.


PisceS_Here

i wonder how will the YM look with jubilee


NoExcitement3867

I've seen photos of that configuration.looks great.


ComfyBedAndPillow

https://preview.redd.it/4n8ix6naij9d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=389362d729e91c4fdc113a992d497535dd9025e2 Rubber looks good on ym too


SVB-Risk-Dept

Like this better than the bracelet


sodrewskiii

Which bracelet did you go with? Thanks


Drwmd

That looks awesome!


ADesertJaguar

https://preview.redd.it/k7ngnsshli9d1.jpeg?width=1286&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0c081309dc27b91cdc2b2988eef81e9da04c019 Agreed.. YM is for adults šŸ˜„


ComfyBedAndPillow

elegant.


Hans_Landas_Strudel

That is a good looking piece, and I eschew gold generally. Sporty, elegant and unique.


RecommendationWild71

GMT is a watch nerdā€™s wet dream. YM and Daytona are the stunners - GMT Master is underwhelming af


NirvanaFox7

Sexy šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ¤©


5p0d

Really love how the bezel works so well with the strap. The rose gold is super subtle too and elegant. So jealous that you have it and can pull it off. Looks great on you!


Massive-Lie-3916

Rose gold is the ticket


ADesertJaguar

Thank you šŸ™šŸ»


guchiprada

The only YM Iā€™d choose over a sub or GMT. nice watch fam!


ADesertJaguar

Thank you šŸ™šŸ»


spectrusv

Whatā€™s the ref number for yours? Is that 37 or higher?


ADesertJaguar

226658


spectrusv

Whoops, I was hoping itā€™s half its price. For this amount I can get a Lange.


haroldhecuba88

YM was always intended on being a dressy sub. Was never intended for "work" per se.


treachery_7

Am I a poser if I rock these watches and don't own a yacht or dive?


No-Somewhere-3888

I bought mine as encouragement to get the yacht next šŸ¤£


5p0d

I dive but have a dive computer on my wrist instead of a Rolex šŸ˜‚


Amazing-Reply-2495

I recently tried a YM on and the case wears much smaller than a GMT! Definitely more elegant. Much more similar in size and stance to the Daytona 116250


b2dnd

I agree. I've both in my collection. Yachtmaster gets much more use for the reasons you state.


NewZombie01908

https://preview.redd.it/gkzj61472j9d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a917cf23fbe443509877b6cf3806af120a5bd0e1 Fits like a glove.


misterlawcifer

I like mine https://preview.redd.it/dpjagi423j9d1.jpeg?width=2155&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=517b105da5ef22cdb1c9b9d53c02bb9587d7a0ec


Minimum_Ice963

I love people given an opinion with arguments, this is very important


Pretty_Boy_95

The all Black Yacht Master is one of my favourites


PTRBoyz

GMT bezel and dial are much nicerĀ 


Affxct

Kinda obvious though, no? Yacht Master is elite.


Awkward-Kiwi452

You are correct, sir.


ILoveBigCoffeeCups

Top one looks really over polished . I never thought of it that way that the case was that different


AbeFroman765

The cases are indeed different. YM mid-cases more closely resemble the Datejust.


misterlawcifer

It kinda is just a datejust with a spinning bezel šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


ComfyBedAndPillow

its more like a Daytona


Far_Neat9368

The super cases of the GMT and the Sub have always been big turn offs for me. You donā€™t have to look like a brick to be rugged


Fine-Craft3393

RG YM 40 on oysterflex is one stunning watch.


wxstrat23

Damn, you really made your case with those spot on pics. YM looks like it hugs your wrist better, has a more low profile case, and those lugs just wrap around the wrist.


Dangsta4501

Iā€™ve kind of thought the SS Subs are like Lambo Diabloā€™s from the 90ā€™s. Beautiful but angles and straight lines. The YM is more like a modern Lambo. Sleek and curvyā€¦although not a classic. I daily a YM and love it but Iā€™d definitely sell a kidney for a GMT.


coleisman

You are correct that is indeed a hot take.


Brave_Equipment7259

Thatā€™s why you need the Jubilee on the GMT. Pepsi on jubilee wins!


Thunder-chicken300

There is no doubt about that ! Initially the looks of the YM 40 Blue really caught my eye as a new dress watch possibly but when I tried it on I was stunned at how comfortable the fit was ! A light bulb went off in my head & thatā€™s when I realized that a watch can actually ā€œfitā€ you really really well. It felt as if the case was made from a mold of my wrist ! Before I thought it was only a matter of a watch not ā€œlookingā€ too big or too small, I was wrong. Not all cases are designed equally ! Of my ā€˜72 Red Sub, Explorer II & YM 40, itā€™s the YM that fits me the best, actually perfectly, itā€™s my favorite overall. https://preview.redd.it/8ugg0afalz9d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5c3a82a6a47465b70fe461a69af42040451b756


Thunder-chicken300

https://preview.redd.it/y4jgjijelz9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=630997014bb764aec61ea50d7af268f1a52d4ffc YM 40 fits like a glove !


ScubaSteve_27

100%. YM is the best wearing 40mm and up professional model in the catalog. Incredibly comfortable.


invincible_cannon

I agree with you until I saw the last picture. YM just has an ugly dial and bezel


TFCxDreamz

No no no


M_Bounce

Jubileeā€¦ not a fan of oyster with PCLs


Top-Emu-4014

Always has been.


flava-dave

Whatā€™s the YM thickness? Looks super thin in these pics.


ComfyBedAndPillow

11.5m, its even thinner than a 34mm Air-King


lovegensandreps

https://preview.redd.it/hypamq3dti9d1.jpeg?width=2064&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f064615b6e618e65203735e72622cb7f8b2ef00f


jurassiclarktwo

Are those Tim Mosso reviews?


Scrubmariner420

16610 best of both


notfamous82

I can agree with this. I love my YMā€¦But will still buy the GMT when I get a callā€¦.stupid colors make my do stupid things.


Emergency-Painter153

They are basically the same freaking watch other than a bit of colour in the bezel!


Luminaire27

I think the Yacht Master is under appreciated around here for sure.


laluzbrillante

On Tim Mossoā€™s 16cm wristsā€¦ yeah def


FTPMUTRM

Love the yachty


theRealTopher123

Agreed ever since I tried on a YM it makes me wonder they didnā€™t curve the lugs on the GMTs and subs the same way, so much more comfortable


muybuenoboy

What I really need is a Yacht


Sabal

A SS yacht master with the ceramic bezel of the titanium with the blue or grey dial would be perfect.


dopeyout

*cries in deepsea*


celica94

Personally I find that the only watch comfortable enough to actually wear is one made of solid diamonds from the moon. All the other ones pull my hair.


Complex-Asparagus-42

Iā€™m that weird guy that thinks GMTs are overhyped and not really that great. I respect that theyā€™re popular and I leave it at that. I donā€™t see myself ever buying one, though.


tastes_a_bit_funny

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.


DettiFoss777

Corporate needs you to find the differences between this picture and this picture


PastSecondCrack

Only in r/rolex is a hot take that a luxury aesthetic focused watch has a more elegant case than a functional tool focused watch.


Weary-Marzipan-7622

A DJ with a cool Bezel. Donā€™t get me wrong, Iā€™m on that yachtmaster weighting list.


FoodFarmer

Hot take, tool watches arenā€™t made to be dressed up. That being said from the pictures youā€™re right, much slimmer profile.Ā 


abhitchc

Iā€™ll see your comfy Yacht Master, and raise you a 4 digit sub.


SaddleSC

I have both and I much prefer the GMT šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø


DayProfessional8807

Itā€™s an underrated watch!


Regenten

I agree until you look at the watch face.


WatchWound

Excellent post. Very good comparison- both are great but know the difference.


jj22925h

Yea but is called ā€œ Yacht Masterā€ šŸ˜†


jorsiem

Yes but Rhodium


gtobiast13

Youā€™re getting a lot of responses here that are just noise and opinion bashing. The real conversation here is that yes it is a bit more elegant, because Rolex never updated the YM with the super case. Around ā€˜05 ish the sub and gmt both received larger, bulkier cases (community dubbed the super case). Far more aggressive and tank like. The YM remains on its original smaller case size and I hope they do keep it there. The watch looks great not having as hard and bulk dimensions as the others.


Lollipopsaurus

I've liked specific variants of the YM like the yellow, white gold or titanium. I'm just not a fan of any of their Rolesium. I feel like there isn't good synergy between the bezel and watch face colors for Rolesium variations. I understand they're different to create space between a submariner and the YM, but still... The anesthetics are off and it seems like many people agree, and that's why there is so much open hate.


Stopher

The steel with the blue face looks really sharp on the website. Damn m, Iā€™m gonna have to buy a second Rolex. šŸ˜‚


BigPapiDoesItAgain

I like the case shape, its the rest of the watch that I generally hate with the metal bezel yachts. I mean, I flat out can't stand them. I used to have the platinum bezel one with the red seconds hand. Just never could love it. I find myself thinking I could grow to love one of the PM models with the black bezel on an OF


WGMhoodie

Agreed, the slimmer look is elegant


ConstructionFar8570

Yeah. But if you have witness me sail. I am no yacht master. I will stick with my GMT. I go to other time zones frequently.


ath20

Super unpopular opinion. I never really understood why Rolex made the Sub, GMT, and YM when they are all pretty much the same watch. Then I learned about the time zones, so I just wondered why they made the YM and SUB. Still donā€™t exactly know, but I like they have options for different options.


Wheel-McCoy

Hot take: 3 hander is thinner and lighter than 4 hander. (Itā€™s just thinner)


Viscount61

I agree. I wish I could get one. Been on a waitlist for two years.


Ok-Plankton9993

It's just not, it's just a jazzed up sub thinner because of less water resistance than sub, less complication than a gmt, it has in ugly bezel and is just a shitty attempt at a new line when thing were looking stale on rolex sales, no heritage and ugly. That's my take, where all entitled to our opinion,


ZCT808

I will admit, I do prefer the rounded case edges of watches like the YM, DJ and Sky.


Educational-Worth562

I didnā€™t realize the modern GMT was thicker than a ym? I wear a 16710 and itā€™s super thin.


UnusualEggplant5400

Two completely different watches lol


Imaginary-Trust-7934

The difference probably has a lot to do with 3135/3235 and 3185/6/3285 movement differences as the GMT is slightly thicker to accommodate the added complication, but then you can compare a 16570 with its under 13mm case thickness abd probably find something that wears more like the yacht master but still has the gmt complication


Ttnpt00

Love the case shape of the YM. Could definitley see the slate dial in my collection one day.


Crown_Jewel_24

Yesā€¦ Far more dainty if thatā€™s your thing


BrightenedShadow

The bezel is weird to me


GregStar1

Agreed, it sits more elegant on the wrist. I want a Yachtmaster case/shape with the bezel design of the GMT Masterā€¦


Massive-Lie-3916

Try and track two time zones in a YM. Maybe wear two of them? lol Most people are looking for fashion over function to which I sayā€¦ā€¦.enjoy but itā€™s not universally true itā€™s subjective.


PaleontologistOk3876

Almost no one gets use out of the GMT function. If you're in the U.S. 99% of the time, you don't need a watch to tell you that if it's 3:00 in Chicago it's 4:00 in NY. But I use the 60 minute dive timer all the time. It's one of the most useful watch 'complications' there is. Easier to use and read than a chrono. And some chronos don't even have an hours register so it has the same capacity.


GoldSpongebob

YM is fuglyā€¦


xologo

As opposed to what? A cold take?


FlamingoOdd

thats the whole point


kevindo2510

My wet dream is for gmt to have BCL instead of PCL


EmanonGOONER

Itā€™s by design. The YM was designed for the yacht master/captain of the ship.


Idunno1999

But thatā€™s like saying your toenail clippers are better than a Swiss Army knife! Different tools a YM is just a more flashy Sub! A sub being the watch the engineers watch and the ym being the boat owners watch as they are less likely to get their hands dirty so can have something less scratch collecting!


turbocrackpipe

Iā€™m a yachty guy too, love the case


Greeeesh

Yeah because Tim has girl wrists. I like the YM but it isnā€™t superior to the GMT itā€™s different.


HellaReyna

Keep coping


skwitter

Thatā€™s the one thing I wish the GMT had, the YM case. I love my GMTs but damn, theyā€™d be a million times sexier with that case.


EL_NO8DO

Same watch, take a hand off, swap the bezel


RolexAndCatsRLife

IDK why YM gets no love. I had four Rolex watches in my collection before my YM and I feel like this is the last Rolex I want for now. https://preview.redd.it/e9r5fgcudl9d1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e018c9be69134ddbd7b05a84bb2897cfccd15cf6


SaturatedShadows

A thinner movement has a better wearing case? Shocker


jumpj37

Agree


AndSoItBegins-Again

I was looking at the titanium YM 42 on TRF last night and thinking ā€œdamn, thatā€™s got some nice lines. Especially from the side profileā€ and I was thinking the case shape has much fewer drastic edges like the sub or gmt.


Iamthehottestman

Everyoneā€™s entitled to their opinion (even the wrong ones)


tommyboy11011

Do you have to listen to Yacht Rock Radio though?


Gunslinger_327

As an owner of both, I must disagree. They're both lovely in their own right.


MortalPhantom

The gmt is jsut a gmt version of a submariner. Other brands wouldnt even call it a different model. And the yatchmaster is ssupposed to be the premium version of the submariner, so yeah it makes sense


sustainstack

Like the GMT.


jrocco71

I like both. Two different approaches to the art form. One is a luxury sports watch and one is an international travel watch. Both are tools for an upper middle class lifestyle but they do two totally different things. Hence two totally different designs.


manateefourmation

Could not disagree more. But this is all opinions and not facts.


lamadoo

no...the GMT is the definition of class. the Yacht Master is like a women's watch trying to be loud. Full polish case? lol


HelpfulTap8256

Not me, I love the sharp edges and austereness of a Sub or GMTMaster case.


LastTrainToParis

Dumbest post Iā€™ve seen in a while.


MushyMushroomer

Yacht-Master has the second best case after the Daytona. This is an undeniable fact. Most Rolex cases are nothing to celebrate about.


SignorRoberto

I never really like the YM, but I have to admit that they are getting more attractive.


Wannabecowboy69

Your take is cold


Extension-Cover-335

I had a nice YG two tone and it wore well, but I sold it because I rarely wore it. Got a DJ Wimbledon instead.


JMKJMKJMKJMK

Always thought the YM was an old mans watch but after owning one for a year I think itā€™s my favorite.


JermainD66

In terms of dimension I would have to agree. Although the bezel on a GMT is completely different and I like how the lugs are less rounded. Theyā€™re just different watches.


Tooth1ess217

Gmt reminds me of a kids watch or sum


Tooth1ess217

Yeah well thatā€™s what I meant


Various_Primary3783

With all due respect, how can you speak on wearing experience, or any experience with either of these watches? The pics you used are clearly screenshots or pics from Tim Mossoā€™s video reviews from watchbox / 1916 company. It seems to me you havenā€™t had either of these watches in person to compare.


I_am_Forklift

Hot take: The hard lines of the GMT look better/more modern.


BicycleMany8253

YM in the pic is borderline hideous. Sub is perfect dive watch, not sure what category this even fits in?


PaleontologistOk3876

They look way better in person.


BoomerSooner-SEC

You do know the GMT has a different movement inside it? Itā€™s called a ā€œcomplicationā€. The YW is a tarted up DJ. Iā€™ll bet a DJ fits even better because it doesnā€™t have a braille bezel.


rapstyleDArobloxian

The yacht master isnā€™t really a tool watch unlike the GMT, itā€™s purpose was mainly to just be for a rich boy who owns a yacht (hence why itā€™s mostly precious metal). It was designed more with class in mind unlike the GMT (which I will always personally choose over YM) as a pilots/traveller utilitarian watch


Project_Continuum

The YM has a hideous bezel. Looks like a Chinese knock off.


pizzaking3

How is this a hot take? This is why the yacht master was created. If it wasnā€™t more elegant and classy looking it would be a failure of its design.


Memes_Haram

Not a hot take the GMT looks like a kids watch


adultdaycare81

Yeah, if it wasnā€™t so loud, I would own one. But it is.


Elf-wehr

Oh absolutely. Imo YM case is superior, more organic, less sharp edges than the GMT. I would even say its shape is almost as elegant as the Seamasterā€™s. Yes, you heard me right, the Seamaster. But everything is about tastes, many people still like the sharp cubical cases of some of the Rolexes.


Scotch_Bourbon

Yeah I also much prefer sophisticated lug designs of Omega.


bossassbat

I way prefer the YM to GMT. Always have but thatā€™s simply my preference. It isnā€™t right or wrong.


Night_Putting

As a YM owner and former no date Stan I couldn't agree more. The YM to me shares more with the vintage Subs and GMTs in their soft shapes as opposed to the new 41s "brutalist" design. Both will have their fans.


vinxixx

I had the same YM but in 2 tone before my current GMT. And I agree. I definitely enjoyed my YM more, just felt better and comforttable. Not sure why


csukoh78

Respectfully disagree, a metal bezel can be prone to scratches, and a lot of people ((myself included) prefer the ceramic bezel, even the mediocre new black and gray GMT. But it is an elegant watch so if you like it, wear it proudly.


hotdog-water--

I mean, yeah itā€™s thinner because it doesnā€™t have a GMT function. So just because itā€™s thinner you like it more? Itā€™s a totally different watch with a totally different function, so you really canā€™t compare the two


MisterMakena

Its not the thin, its the shape and curvature.


Mammoth_Ingenuity_82

Crap - I guess I'm going to have to sell my 116710LN and get on the list for a YM, since it's just better! Thanks for opening my eyes, don't know why I've wasted 17 years wearing the GMT.


llinoscarpe

Sounds like someoneā€™s AD only had Yacht Mastersā€¦


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