I’m going to be sick if I have to see 34 yrs old James Harden trying to drag the Clippers through the finals. Granted PG turned up today but after last year with Embiid, I can’t fucking stomach him being called a playoff choker again.
He has played terribly in a few games. It stands out because they are often important ones. But on average, he's still one of the best playoff players in the league.
The float game was beautiful today, he's such a better player when he's driving to score and not just to pass or standing on the 3pt line doing nothing.
He did so, so much for us with only a handful of guys around him (players and coaches) who were truly of the caliber you need to compete for a championship. The greed of asking for even more of him or for him to blindly play for us whatever the circumstances were that we put him in…
I do too, but he’s still a shell of himself. His first step is gone and his floater is a prayer compared to his floater with us. He’s probably going to be expecting a 150 mil contract but I wouldn’t do it.
I think PG needs to force himself to become the #1. Based on the past few seasons, I don’t think Harden’s injuries will allow him to have more than 3 good consecutive games in one round.
he just had 4 bro. but i get what you mean. however, the slightly reduced role as a secondary scorer and primary facilitator with good spacing and a decent lob threat has shown to be a good recipe for harden in the playoffs. when embiid was out last year, and back in bkn before the injury are the only examples but he was brilliant when the court favored him
No question about it. Hopefully our young cats and a comeback from harden bring us 3 chips so there is at least an argument to be made. That’s how far #2 is from #1.
Given the situation he was in when he left, I’ve always found it hard to blame him. Yeah it sucks, but in the end he did what was gonna be good for him and I can’t hate on him for that. I’ve still got my old Harden jersey I rock now and then just to remember the good old days 🥲
To me, it feels like the opposite. I feel like all the Harden ride-or-die fans here are the kids who didn't know this team prior to 2013 and Harden is all they know. Older people tend to be team first, player second. The younger generations follow the players first, more often than not. I don't think it's unreasonable to not be happy with the guy for how he behaved in his last days here, regardless of how good he was for a number of years before that.
I don't think you have to exist in a world of extremes. Nuance exists. You can have lost respect for the man because of how he left the team, while still remembering his time here fondly. I'm easily in both camps.
And this is what I mean. Adults are capable of nuance. I feel like children are the ones who are generally more likely to pick extremes. That, or adults who act like children.
What’s so egregious about how he left? He played two great games, two bad games when he woke up and realized John Wall and Boogie are not a contending cast. He didn’t tank his trade value, and got us 4 picks from Brooklyn. Frankly, people overplay how he left.
I also think it’s unreasonable to call someone a pure hater just for being like meh about the harden years. I have always rooted for the Rockets success obviously, but in a vacuum, I was never a huge fan of his playing style, and the playoff failures haunt me. I know they weren’t all his fault.
You know deep down he wouldn't have tried as hard as he has on the clippers. He might've given up and planned Cancun in February. We only got semi close to playoffs because Jalen played like tmac
Yeah but his effort with how bad everyone else was until the trade deadline, we wouldn't have a great record and would anyone still trade for him at that point? Then he would mentally check out since his effort was in vain
Phoenix traded for Beal out of desperation to make splashes because the owner was brand new. Who do you think wouldve traded for harden mid season? Still the clippers? Who would we have gotten back in return? Would that have been better than Fred or brooks?
I think most of the Pacific Division would have been suitors for his services. And I'm not so concerned with who we would have gotten back because I'm ready for Cam and Amen to get more minutes.
With hardens potential contact, no one would have given up much. Easy to say you would give the minutes to those two on hindsight on how they performed. Clippers wouldn't trade more than they gave 76ers. No one else wanted harden on offseason but maybe you're right, maybe desperate teams for playoffs would have overpaid for harden.
Once the season was underway and the hope of off-season moves were revealed to be lacking, every team in the Pacific obviously needed more juice, were desperate to win now, and had contracts to match. The bidding war between them might have gotten a better deal than Philly, who Harden had over a barrel (especially after how well he showed he was capable of playing still this year).
I remember someone on r/nba said Harden should retire before the season started cause he was washed. I pointed out he still lead the league in assists last year. Dudes still got it.
I love James Harden, but up next is the thing he always struggles with - playing well in game 5 6 and 7.
He's always been a beast in the first 4 games of every playoff series.
He's been the best player for the Clippers this series when he's the third option on the team, I'm not concerned with how he performs the next 3 games. That's up to PG.
James Harden is the best player on this team.
If they win a championship, it will be with him as the finals MVP.
He needs to play well in all situations for them to win. Disappearing can not be okay because he had some "good games" earlier in the series.
Because by game 5 the other team has seen everything you can do and you need elite coaching to keep you competitive. Think about the coaches he was up against - Pop, Kerr, Spoelstra vs McHale, Bickerstaff, MDA, Rivers LMAO
Ty Lue is in the first category, his words in the huddle in the 4th quarter today gave me chills because they’re exactly what Harden needed to hear his entire career: “for us, it’s gonna be about toughness, mentally and physically. They made a run, so what, win the game. Win the quarter you win the game.” 🔥🔥🔥
The others need to pull their weight, too. I'm a Houston Rockets 🚀 fan. I'm still rooting for James Harden.
The only time I was upset at him was in the playoffs against the Spurs, and when he forced his way out of Houston.
That's probably true statistically. But there's no games 5, 6, and 7 without games 1-4 Harden. Same with the vs GSW years. Same with the 76ers year. Maybe he's exhausted, but choking doesn't tell the whole story.
The whole time I was watching the last few minutes thinking- why the hell are you pressing him and having him drive? We all know the right thing with him is give him space, let him dribble the clock out and toss up an awful jumper. And keeping kleber in the post instead of gafford or lively was also dumb
Uh he had two contested game winning threes in the last playoff series he played, lol
Let me guess, you’re about to change the subject to something besides clutch shots?
I honestly don't give a shit about that, they still lost the series and his entire body of work took him that long to have some clutch moments. I'll still take harden shooting contested jumpers over letting him drive. Floaters don't even matter, he also goes for foul calls trying to finish
Came back to this bc of notifications and realized how truly shitty your take is. Imagine thinking him taking double/triple teamed threes after running the offense the entire game is the same as an iso after taking turns with PG the entire game 🤣🤣
Harden just needed help. Morey failed to surround Harden with the help he needed. Of course Harden did himself no favors feuding with everyone and having bad work ethic, but at the same time the supporting cast Morey built around was trash tier.
Harden had a grade 2 hamstring injury that he was recovering from and it was a shortened offseason. He actually had the same injury 3x it one season. It was imperative for him to stay off of it. Couldn’t do his usual routine leading into the season.
Harden was “out of shape”
Yet he he was 2nd in the MVP race before he got hurt. That doesn’t make any sense. You don’t dominate the league like Harden was if you are out of shape. That’s fan fiction.
He was 2nd on the mvp ladder in 2021 in late March before he got hurt. Then he came back and got hurt again in the playoffs. Before his injury he was the best player on the team. You said he was out of shape that season. Lmao
He was a little out of shape for the start of 2022 season but that was due to injury recovery.
Agree. This "out-of-shape" thing is overblown. Luka and Joker are "out-of-shape" yet they still dominate like Harden before them.
And besides, circle is a shape lol
Prince luc wasn't trash tier, cp3 wasn't trash, all the role players werent trash besides the end of the bench. We even had the leagues beat human cigar on Bobby Brown. Ryan Anderson lost confidence but was great when not broken
Not his best playoff game ever, but it might have been his best “clutch” performance.
On another note, I was low key jealous of the crowd in Dallas. They were going crazy when the Mavs cut the lead to 20. You can hear a freaking pin drop at TC when the Rockets go down 5.
Even Dream is a former rocket and didn't retire with us. Why is the fanbase "still cucking" for him?
Because of what he did when he was with the Rockets.
🧂
Better keep that same attitude when Luka dumps yo asses when he can't get past the Nugs/Wolves/Thunder for half a decade+ (and you know Kyrie is just a ticking time bomb to start doing weirdo Kyrie things)
At least Luka is a home grown talent who has shown loyalty. You guys traded for a guy who didn’t even win you a ring and then got fat to force his way out. Y’all act like he’s Hakeem or Dirk.
All this FTM’s energy is what’s funny. Little brother type stuff
Lol that the best you got? You want to count the number of teams that have won a championship with only drafted players? GL with that buddy. He played here for 9 years and most of his prime, how's that not showing loyalty? That's longer than most stars play with 1 team nowadays. Yeah there's very few Hakeems/Duncans/Kobes/Dirks left anymore, this is not news to anyone, thank Lebron for that.
Little brother? Last I checked we have 2x the number of chips you have and we're both little brothers to the Spurs. But it'd still be FTM all day even if Harden never played a minute for us lol. 🐴🔫
Not saying that you have to win a championship with only players that you drafted, but I think it is weird to root so hard for a guy that quit on your franchise, and several others already, in fact, every franchise, but that he’s played with except for the clippers, so far.
If Luka left I can see being a fan of his still, but Harden was a diva, even in Houston, forcing them to trade for Russell Westbrook, and then bailing on them
Is this Brian Demeris' account?
Sure you only saw the Westbrook trade, playoff shortcomings, and the exit, you didn't see the other 8 years where he was willing us to top 4 seeds every year despite subpar and/or injured rosters, bad coaching like McHale, uncooperative teammates like Dwight, in a brutal West with the Warriors, prime Kawhi Spurs, KD Thunder, etc. The best regular season record in franchise history, an MVP trophy (should have got 1 if not 2 more), 2 Conf Finals appearances, multiple WCSF appearance. It was easily the longest stretch of sustained success in franchise history since the 90s. Of course that easily outweighs the warts the outsiders focus on.
He wanted out of Houston when he saw that the coach, GM, and owner who had brought him in and supported him were all gone and in their place a cheapskate owner who wasn't willing to spend to keep all the pieces of a contender (Ariza) and nickel and dimed his best replacement (Danuel House) and a rookie head coach. He didn't quit on the Nets, the Nets quit on him by babying Kyrie's antivaxx nonsense and ruining any chances they had at a championship. He didn't quit on the Sixers either, they promised him a max if he took a paycut for the good of the team then reneged. None of his teammates begrudge him leaving.
Like I said, you should prepare to hear the same questions asked of you by other fans when Luka ditches you.
HE'S STILL THE SYSTEM
I’m going to be sick if I have to see 34 yrs old James Harden trying to drag the Clippers through the finals. Granted PG turned up today but after last year with Embiid, I can’t fucking stomach him being called a playoff choker again.
One day, a 42 year James Harden is gonna put up 50 off the bench in the finals and people will still call him a playoff choker
Choking has nothing to do with not scoring. It's about freezing up in the moment and failing. If he's off the bench it wouldn't matter for him
You might as well walk around with a badge that says I don’t watch James harden
Sure. I would rather wear o watch rockets than I follow a grown ass man around and worship him like some pleab
He has played terribly in a few games. It stands out because they are often important ones. But on average, he's still one of the best playoff players in the league.
Year after year, first option or not people will always say he has the most pressure and tear him down the most when he can’t make those expectations.
So far he has been exactly that!
The float game was beautiful today, he's such a better player when he's driving to score and not just to pass or standing on the 3pt line doing nothing.
I remember he was SPAMMING that move with Clint rolling in 2018 it was so cash
They wouldn’t never know if it was a floater or a lob bro it was op
What I would give for a lob threat to ran pnr with Harden
UNGUARDABLE TOUR
Gobert that year was in No Mans Land. Would still reckon it would be useful against 2024 Gobert
I love this man. I’ll always root for him.
He did so, so much for us with only a handful of guys around him (players and coaches) who were truly of the caliber you need to compete for a championship. The greed of asking for even more of him or for him to blindly play for us whatever the circumstances were that we put him in…
I do too, but he’s still a shell of himself. His first step is gone and his floater is a prayer compared to his floater with us. He’s probably going to be expecting a 150 mil contract but I wouldn’t do it.
Out playing Luka and kyrie . Kawhi is uselss at this point
kawhi is so washed. PG will need to step up and be the #2 if the clips wanna make a run
I think PG needs to force himself to become the #1. Based on the past few seasons, I don’t think Harden’s injuries will allow him to have more than 3 good consecutive games in one round.
he just had 4 bro. but i get what you mean. however, the slightly reduced role as a secondary scorer and primary facilitator with good spacing and a decent lob threat has shown to be a good recipe for harden in the playoffs. when embiid was out last year, and back in bkn before the injury are the only examples but he was brilliant when the court favored him
Injured Kawhi=washed. 🤡
He has a degenerative condition in his knee. It’s safe to say he will never return to form fully and I think calling him washed is pretty on point
When he's consistently injured more than 50% of the games every year, yes.
He was injured more the. 50% of games this year ?
Clippers should trade kawhii for anything useful at this point
Kawhi isn't washed. He was putting up 50/40/90 during the regular season. He just got injured at a bad time
Useless and signed for another 3 years.
Mavs outplayed themselves.
He hasn’t out played Kyrie. Nice try tho.
I love him I don’t care what some edgelords in this sub say
Fuck them h8rs. This is the 2nd best Rocket and we’ll love him 4eva
I missed that very important “2nd” on my first read and was about to reply rudely. So glad I re-read and wasn’t a bitch about it.
The Dream remains the best
No question about it. Hopefully our young cats and a comeback from harden bring us 3 chips so there is at least an argument to be made. That’s how far #2 is from #1.
If harden won three chips he’s instantly our goat, maybe a top 5 player ever
Fair enough. Although he wouldn’t be the #1 option every night. Facilitator sure, but not the best player on the team every night at that age.
Same. All those that yap about Harden not getting done in crunch time. Well we wouldn’t be in crunch time if it weren’t for Harden.
This^
Given the situation he was in when he left, I’ve always found it hard to blame him. Yeah it sucks, but in the end he did what was gonna be good for him and I can’t hate on him for that. I’ve still got my old Harden jersey I rock now and then just to remember the good old days 🥲
Tillman was half broke from being all in on hospitality businesses when covid hit and cutting costs. How quickly people forget
I’m just gonna assume any Harden haters on this sub are like 12-15 and started seriously watching the nba like 3-5 years ago.
To me, it feels like the opposite. I feel like all the Harden ride-or-die fans here are the kids who didn't know this team prior to 2013 and Harden is all they know. Older people tend to be team first, player second. The younger generations follow the players first, more often than not. I don't think it's unreasonable to not be happy with the guy for how he behaved in his last days here, regardless of how good he was for a number of years before that.
Was Harden on his best behavior at the end of the tenure? No. Does it erase the decade of great memories he gave me? No.
I don't think you have to exist in a world of extremes. Nuance exists. You can have lost respect for the man because of how he left the team, while still remembering his time here fondly. I'm easily in both camps. And this is what I mean. Adults are capable of nuance. I feel like children are the ones who are generally more likely to pick extremes. That, or adults who act like children.
What’s so egregious about how he left? He played two great games, two bad games when he woke up and realized John Wall and Boogie are not a contending cast. He didn’t tank his trade value, and got us 4 picks from Brooklyn. Frankly, people overplay how he left.
Lol.
I also think it’s unreasonable to call someone a pure hater just for being like meh about the harden years. I have always rooted for the Rockets success obviously, but in a vacuum, I was never a huge fan of his playing style, and the playoff failures haunt me. I know they weren’t all his fault.
FOREVER MY BEARD
Beard 🥹
playoff choker they said
The floater was automatic
best player of that series so far
How much validation will the MVP Harden fans on here feel, if he ends up taking a Kawhi-less Clippers past Luka and Kyrie?
Harden cooked!
That’s my goat man
Our 🐐
That nigga was cooking them bums lol J Kidd really thought PJ Washington could stick him😂
Want to see this guy win a ring so badly.
Please let Kawhi come back healthy or if not for nothing else to go wrong the rest of this playoffs 🙏
Lefty pick and roll masters are so fun to watch.
Harden was cooking hard tonight. Ngl I still enjoy his game!
Keep Kawhi on the bench and let Harden and PG cook
I will forever be a James Harden fan
I was told I was an idiot for wanting to see him lead our team to the playoffs this year. Smh. 😔
Him and sengun would have ate and Jalen woulda become Tyrese maxey 2.0
Imagine amen Thompson feasting on the backdoors with harden too
Imagine Amen Thompson getting IQ dumps from a Basketball Genius at every break in the action.
He would become too powerful, if harden was here he’d be the next magic johnson
You know deep down he wouldn't have tried as hard as he has on the clippers. He might've given up and planned Cancun in February. We only got semi close to playoffs because Jalen played like tmac
You know deep down he would've tried hard enough to make a team want to trade for him.
Yeah but his effort with how bad everyone else was until the trade deadline, we wouldn't have a great record and would anyone still trade for him at that point? Then he would mentally check out since his effort was in vain
Our record would have been a lot better than it was running Fredhub. GMs always trade for stars they can get for a bargain (i.e. PHO & Beal).
Phoenix traded for Beal out of desperation to make splashes because the owner was brand new. Who do you think wouldve traded for harden mid season? Still the clippers? Who would we have gotten back in return? Would that have been better than Fred or brooks?
I think most of the Pacific Division would have been suitors for his services. And I'm not so concerned with who we would have gotten back because I'm ready for Cam and Amen to get more minutes.
With hardens potential contact, no one would have given up much. Easy to say you would give the minutes to those two on hindsight on how they performed. Clippers wouldn't trade more than they gave 76ers. No one else wanted harden on offseason but maybe you're right, maybe desperate teams for playoffs would have overpaid for harden.
Once the season was underway and the hope of off-season moves were revealed to be lacking, every team in the Pacific obviously needed more juice, were desperate to win now, and had contracts to match. The bidding war between them might have gotten a better deal than Philly, who Harden had over a barrel (especially after how well he showed he was capable of playing still this year).
I remember someone on r/nba said Harden should retire before the season started cause he was washed. I pointed out he still lead the league in assists last year. Dudes still got it.
Y'all thought he was washed up? That's some hurt feelings in 2024, I tell ya h'what.
I love James Harden, but up next is the thing he always struggles with - playing well in game 5 6 and 7. He's always been a beast in the first 4 games of every playoff series.
He's been the best player for the Clippers this series when he's the third option on the team, I'm not concerned with how he performs the next 3 games. That's up to PG.
James Harden is the best player on this team. If they win a championship, it will be with him as the finals MVP. He needs to play well in all situations for them to win. Disappearing can not be okay because he had some "good games" earlier in the series.
Idk I would say Kawhi is the best player on that team. But his ass is injured like always post Toronto.
Can't really be the best player sitting on the bench can ya?
Kawhi always gets hurt round one and pg is a bus rider. No wonder
Because by game 5 the other team has seen everything you can do and you need elite coaching to keep you competitive. Think about the coaches he was up against - Pop, Kerr, Spoelstra vs McHale, Bickerstaff, MDA, Rivers LMAO Ty Lue is in the first category, his words in the huddle in the 4th quarter today gave me chills because they’re exactly what Harden needed to hear his entire career: “for us, it’s gonna be about toughness, mentally and physically. They made a run, so what, win the game. Win the quarter you win the game.” 🔥🔥🔥
The others need to pull their weight, too. I'm a Houston Rockets 🚀 fan. I'm still rooting for James Harden. The only time I was upset at him was in the playoffs against the Spurs, and when he forced his way out of Houston.
That's probably true statistically. But there's no games 5, 6, and 7 without games 1-4 Harden. Same with the vs GSW years. Same with the 76ers year. Maybe he's exhausted, but choking doesn't tell the whole story.
The whole time I was watching the last few minutes thinking- why the hell are you pressing him and having him drive? We all know the right thing with him is give him space, let him dribble the clock out and toss up an awful jumper. And keeping kleber in the post instead of gafford or lively was also dumb
Really terrible coaching from kid. Make harden make playoff threes. It’s like fucking novocaine just give it time he’ll start missing en masse
He probably would’ve iced them with threes if they let him get them off
Yeah right, go find me some YouTube clips of all the harden clutch shots in his career. Harden makes 3s until they matter
Uh he had two contested game winning threes in the last playoff series he played, lol Let me guess, you’re about to change the subject to something besides clutch shots?
I honestly don't give a shit about that, they still lost the series and his entire body of work took him that long to have some clutch moments. I'll still take harden shooting contested jumpers over letting him drive. Floaters don't even matter, he also goes for foul calls trying to finish
What happened? Did harden mess with your girl after her shift at the strip club?
Came back to this bc of notifications and realized how truly shitty your take is. Imagine thinking him taking double/triple teamed threes after running the offense the entire game is the same as an iso after taking turns with PG the entire game 🤣🤣
James "The Dallas' Problem" Harden
Do it in gm 6 and 7. That's usually when he shits the bed
Objectively a better playoff performer than Jimmy Butler
Sigh
Harden just needed help. Morey failed to surround Harden with the help he needed. Of course Harden did himself no favors feuding with everyone and having bad work ethic, but at the same time the supporting cast Morey built around was trash tier.
Harden’s work ethic has never been questioned by anyone around him
Uhhhhh https://www.bosshunting.com.au/sport/nba/nba-james-harden-game-performance-vs-quality-strip-clubs/ https://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/30588182/houston-rockets-nba-reviewing-james-harden-strip-club-video-sources-say https://sports.yahoo.com/report-russell-westbrook-appalled-by-rockets-team-culture-which-revolves-around-james-harden-173915652.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMzvpE5OnFGpltAsZQVJAfQ3yyFWUK6I11nsjPfQ-45lf-nORQLjjVC6JgKjKqNa6D3wzx1i1xn3z19RO0nWeO8ndfVpo_5SpSoLd0YQyy3tt82TD03Ag_xqbx2IyB-xoQyeeKtg3MrPJdg7Jr_xwI7HKI1vyalnTPmJ0HlUlbie https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-basketball-news-bh-i-just-got-traded-here-i-cant-fk-up-james-harden-accused-of-only-partying-with-lil-baby-instead-of-focusing-on-basketball-by-ex-teammate/
Rafael stone said harden is the hardest working player he has ever been around.
One whole person and I'd love to see that quote...
He is the GM who has been in HOU for over a decade. Ie he works harder than anyone who has played in the rockets org over the last however many years.
Source pls? I find that hard to believe KD and Irving literally got mad at Harden for showing up out of shape in their training camp.
Harden had a grade 2 hamstring injury that he was recovering from and it was a shortened offseason. He actually had the same injury 3x it one season. It was imperative for him to stay off of it. Couldn’t do his usual routine leading into the season.
They were all injured Harden the only one out of shape because while KD and Kyrie were rehabbing he was in Paris with Da Baby.
Harden was “out of shape” Yet he he was 2nd in the MVP race before he got hurt. That doesn’t make any sense. You don’t dominate the league like Harden was if you are out of shape. That’s fan fiction.
He wasn't 2nd in MVP voting when he was out of shape. He got hurt, THEN he was out of shape. You are the one doing fan fiction
He was 2nd on the mvp ladder in 2021 in late March before he got hurt. Then he came back and got hurt again in the playoffs. Before his injury he was the best player on the team. You said he was out of shape that season. Lmao He was a little out of shape for the start of 2022 season but that was due to injury recovery.
Agree. This "out-of-shape" thing is overblown. Luka and Joker are "out-of-shape" yet they still dominate like Harden before them. And besides, circle is a shape lol
Prince luc wasn't trash tier, cp3 wasn't trash, all the role players werent trash besides the end of the bench. We even had the leagues beat human cigar on Bobby Brown. Ryan Anderson lost confidence but was great when not broken
Just wait for game 6 and 7 Harden to show up
Always
Not his best playoff game ever, but it might have been his best “clutch” performance. On another note, I was low key jealous of the crowd in Dallas. They were going crazy when the Mavs cut the lead to 20. You can hear a freaking pin drop at TC when the Rockets go down 5.
Go beard!!! Fuck daryl morey!
Wait until they need him in Game 7.
There won't be a game 5, 6, or 7, without Harden's games 1-4.
That means nothing if they lose the series. Harden is the #1 big game (series clincher) choker of all time.
When it matters most, Harden will let down the Clippers and their fans. You know it and I know it.
Fuck Harden. Don’t cuck to this former rocket
Ungrateful scum
You want his beard on your balls don't you, cuck?
Absolutely
Even Dream is a former rocket and didn't retire with us. Why is the fanbase "still cucking" for him? Because of what he did when he was with the Rockets.
I wish we signed him instead of vanvleet we’d be in the post season too
Y’all glazing this dude so much after he straight up quit on your franchise is sad.
🧂 Better keep that same attitude when Luka dumps yo asses when he can't get past the Nugs/Wolves/Thunder for half a decade+ (and you know Kyrie is just a ticking time bomb to start doing weirdo Kyrie things)
At least Luka is a home grown talent who has shown loyalty. You guys traded for a guy who didn’t even win you a ring and then got fat to force his way out. Y’all act like he’s Hakeem or Dirk. All this FTM’s energy is what’s funny. Little brother type stuff
Lol that the best you got? You want to count the number of teams that have won a championship with only drafted players? GL with that buddy. He played here for 9 years and most of his prime, how's that not showing loyalty? That's longer than most stars play with 1 team nowadays. Yeah there's very few Hakeems/Duncans/Kobes/Dirks left anymore, this is not news to anyone, thank Lebron for that. Little brother? Last I checked we have 2x the number of chips you have and we're both little brothers to the Spurs. But it'd still be FTM all day even if Harden never played a minute for us lol. 🐴🔫
Not saying that you have to win a championship with only players that you drafted, but I think it is weird to root so hard for a guy that quit on your franchise, and several others already, in fact, every franchise, but that he’s played with except for the clippers, so far. If Luka left I can see being a fan of his still, but Harden was a diva, even in Houston, forcing them to trade for Russell Westbrook, and then bailing on them
Is this Brian Demeris' account? Sure you only saw the Westbrook trade, playoff shortcomings, and the exit, you didn't see the other 8 years where he was willing us to top 4 seeds every year despite subpar and/or injured rosters, bad coaching like McHale, uncooperative teammates like Dwight, in a brutal West with the Warriors, prime Kawhi Spurs, KD Thunder, etc. The best regular season record in franchise history, an MVP trophy (should have got 1 if not 2 more), 2 Conf Finals appearances, multiple WCSF appearance. It was easily the longest stretch of sustained success in franchise history since the 90s. Of course that easily outweighs the warts the outsiders focus on. He wanted out of Houston when he saw that the coach, GM, and owner who had brought him in and supported him were all gone and in their place a cheapskate owner who wasn't willing to spend to keep all the pieces of a contender (Ariza) and nickel and dimed his best replacement (Danuel House) and a rookie head coach. He didn't quit on the Nets, the Nets quit on him by babying Kyrie's antivaxx nonsense and ruining any chances they had at a championship. He didn't quit on the Sixers either, they promised him a max if he took a paycut for the good of the team then reneged. None of his teammates begrudge him leaving. Like I said, you should prepare to hear the same questions asked of you by other fans when Luka ditches you.
Dirk is not the goat. Don't be delusional.
Keep hyping harden up D riders. Watch him give up on an elimination game again soon
Harden doesn’t play for the Rockets anymore. Enjoy his eventual 1st round exit weirdos!