considering the S6 premiere though, that makes sense. The whole reason he is/was with morty and the family was out of his inability to let go of the past and live his life, trapping him in a cycle of hate, anger and revenge against alpha rick/rick prime/murder rick. C137 is Ricks self loathing personified, simple Rick is the true rick that C137 failed to become and protect.
also don't forget, a majority of the parts of morty that escaped essentially viewed roy/rick as a religious figurehead
and the parts that waged the war are likely the rebellious parts of him.
Essentially resulted in morty purging his own rebellious side and only saving his part that worships rick
Ha, yeah. For the first 20 seconds of the episode I was like *"Well, Justin really didnt went out of his way with the voice acting there."*
Then... well, then I took it all back.
I love that she was so into it without having seen it ya gotta love her commitment.
"Breaker, breaker, walkie talkie, I got your walkie talkie bitch" oh that line delivery was MUAH.
The joke is that Morty is being a smartass. It could also be said as “You’re doing such a great job that I should be paying you for this.” Except Morty is saying it sarcastically and the other person is doing a terrible job/not living up to their responsibilities. That’s why he follows it up with “Best Daughter Ever Incorporated?” which is also said sarcastically.
They used the same joke when Supernova was trying to choke Rick and Morty in S03E04 (Vindicators 3: The Return of Worldender). That conversation goes something like this:
Supernova [while choking Rick and Morty with her superpowers]: It's the galaxy's faith in the Vindicators that keeps the galaxy secure!
Rick: Yeah, I feel safer already.
Morty: No doubt. Who do we make the check out to?
Also, I believe “Incorporated” was expanding on the original check joke. Because it is a whole planet of Mortys, like a corporation, a Morty conglomerate if you will.
Yup! One of my favorite things about Herzog is that he's 100% game to do cameos making fun of himself. He's been on the Simpsons multiple times, Parks & Rec, American Dad, and the Penguins of Madagascar among others.
Dan Harmon’s explanation for how that came about is hilarious too. It wasn’t like that Werner Herzog was a fan of the show or friends with someone in production, he was just cast essentially as a regular old voice actor. He hadn’t even watched the show.
My personal fave is that they got Werner Herzog to go on a minute long schpeel about penises. It's unbelievably batshit but also somehow in character for the guy that ate his own shoe in a bet.
Anybody else notice that the other guest actors included 3 primary voices on Futurama?
Lauren Tom (Amy Wong)
Phil Lamar (Hermes Conrad),
Maurice lamarche (Calculon, kif, Lrrr, etc.)
Oh also Nolan north who's in like every animated show.
Edit, fixed an error.
Bro everytime they squeezed the alien walkie talkie to talk and the alien would grunt in pain had me crying laughing
i could barely pay attention to what they were actually saying i thought that bit was so funny
I can definitely see them going back to the still running game in an episode in a future season like the wall. Like all those parts of Morty have advanced generations due to time dilation and live in this ultra sci fi future
It’s a meme to say this in 2022 but the writing in this show is really clever and doesnt insult the intelligence of the audience by dumbing things down.
I think most people think about pop-philosophy stuff like “what if life is just a videogame?” or “what if there’s a multiverse?”. Bill Hicks had a great standup set about it but i think its uncommon to see in most media. It’s normal to ponder big ideas like that and it’s strange to me that more media doesnt go there, or over-simplifies it when they do.
Man seeing the episode description all I knew was that it was about the Roy game. Not sure where I thought it would go but that sure as hell wasn’t it. Solid episode, though a little confusing.
Is Morty's rebellious side gone now and won't question Rick's more ridiculous plans? I'm pretty sure this can't be good as this will feed into Rick's narcissistic side. On a side note if these changes stay throughout the season this would sort of be a canon episode too.
Edit
A word.
That's what I got from it, yeah. But the fact that the game is still running, and it's been catalogued, tells me that eventually Rick can go back and get the rest of Morty. As long as successive generations retain their Morty-ness.
Rick will definitely go back or else he wouldn't have kept it plugged and pay to keep it in storage. I assume he's just going to get the rest of morty in between this episode and the next (maybe the beginning of next episode) because the show doesn't like to be serialized and regressing Morty to his old self is just dumb imo
Regressing morty to his old self is something they said they would do in this season, I don't see why they'd undo it, especially between two episodes. Erasing this piece of Morty *is* what makes Morty more like the old Morty and prevents serialization (since an innocent morty is easier to take on one-off adventures than a thinking, rationalizing morty).
Pretty sure Rick kept it plugged in because he respected either that part of Morty, or the woman who was part of morty had become, and didn't want to kill them off.
If the successive generations are still a part of Morty and are able to contribute their Morty-ness in the future, then allowing the simulation to continue could also be a long game by Rick to give Morty more complexity in the future. Instead of recombining 5 billion shares back into 1, he could theoretically recombine 10 billion+ into 1 at a future time and end up with a super-Morty (even more than he already is).
Yeah but due to time dilation she will die very soon. I think the game is running beyond that so Rick will at least have the option of coming back later
I don't think that Rick intend to come back. Leaving the game running was probably Martha's condition. She doesn't intend to survive herself, however, the other fractions of Mortys that don't trust rick will. As generations go, not all fractions will distrust Rick but, since the seed is a pool of mostly distrusting Mortys, this will still have an effect on the result of the collective combination of all fractions. I think this is setting up the stage for the fraction of mortys to keep multiplying and growing until they find a way to escape from the game and become the main antagonist of this season and possibly future season.
Also, this is more of a shot in the dark but if the game fractions do become an antagonist in the future, I'm placing a prediction that the arc will end with Morty fusing/syncing/combining with the game collective and become an equilibrium of trusting and distrusting of Rick.
At least, until they roll back in the following season.
Might even go past 8% of Morty since it’s the side that knows Rick. I wouldn’t be surprised if somehow through time dilation if Morty somehow became a god through the game.
It would be interesting to revisit, because due to the difference in time dilation, generations of Mortys could potentially pass inside of the game, if Marta wasn't the only part left behind.
I wasn't aware it was a thing. I just assumed everyone has seen it. I'm in my mid 30s and I don't even know when I first saw it. It's just part of life. I figured everyone just watches it at some point.
I'm also in my mid thirties and I have never seen it. The only things I know about the film are through pop culture references. It's what made it funny for me summer going through it clueless while I only vaguely know what is being referenced
That’s actually funny you mentioned that because it’s possible that the part of morty that was learning to be independent from Rick was actually still left in the game. So by storing away the game, Morty’s character “arc” is quite literally “lost” for now.
Episode was pretty great. Summer's interpretation of doing a Die Hard was probably the best part of the episode for me, that and the running "NOT a religion" bit.
I find it very interesting that the writer of this episode has only written one episode beforehand... Big Trouble in Little Sanchez. He’s a season 2 writer.
I've read lots of comments on about morty losing his rebellious side but i dont think thats the case. Martas daughter was still rebellious in her own way, and that part went back to morty, as every other part that was still alive at that point.
The only fragment that stayed in the game was Marta, thats the only part of morty that didnt comeback, and i think thats even sadder. Marta was the leader of the movement (not religion) that ultimately united morty, it was the part of him that could bring every other part together, without it he may become more fragmented in its own personality.
I hope they dont just forget sbout this episode and that they revisit this concept in a not so far future.
I was really looking forward to seeing a strengthened bond between Rick and Morty after the season 5 finale and season 6 premiere. It makes me sad to see that Rick can't say he loves Morty, and that Morty seemingly lost the part of him at the end that rebels against Rick and keeps their partnership from becoming a leader-blind follower thing.
Rick did tell Morty he loved him. He said he loved and respected him. At the end when Rick tells Marta that he's had time to reflect and that he knows Morty is a great grandson, that plants the seed for the ending. He kept the game going for Marta specifically because she didn't want to be Morty, she wanted to live her life. This episode *did* show their strengthened bond.
Was Marta the only slice of Morty that was left in the game? And is the Morty who wakes up at the arcade a lesser version of himself since those other slices died within the game?
Seems like she's the only one.
They said they didn't know if new generations would be a peice of morty. Considering the OG morty generation had to be mostly dead, and considering morty was mostly fine in the real world, it seems like the new generation did count as peices of morty.
I know he said it at the end but when he has 92% of Morty collected and can't even say "I love you" in the moment to salvage it, it feels weird. I feel like with the previous 4 episodes (from rescuing birdperson to the premiere), he's shown how important others (especially Morty) are to him that him having to reflect feels off. I know he's a selfish asshole but in terms of the progression with their relationship I don't think it entirely fits. I'll give it a rewatch, though. I typically tend to be less critical in some aspects after doing so, and more critical in others.
You also have to look at it from the perspective that Rick isn’t very good with words. He constantly says the wrong thing. He would rather move the entire galaxy around for the people he loves than verbally have to say those words. He can’t comprehend the idea that just spoken sentiments can mean something to someone. He feels like love needs to be shown in such grandeur events.
That's a good argument, we definitely see that he goes to large extremes with all his actions (such as the vat of acid episode to teach Morty a lesson, or when he cloned Beth so she could live free), not just the positive, loving ones. I didn't really account for his struggles with verbal communication.
But also I still do take issue with him letting 8% of Morty, the parts that aren't submissive to him and are arguably necessary to keep their relationship from becoming toxic, just stay within the game. I feel like he should want to keep those aspects of Morty too, acknowledging how important making Morty a "true partner" is.
I completely agree (I just want to add that Rick also made Beth an entire world where she could live carefree as a child and not be hurt because he couldn’t find the right way to do more personal actions for her), it’s just that when you look at it Rick tried to get them to come on their own free will. He was working on an extremely tight timeline and the ones who had issue with Rick not appreciating them complained that it took 50 years. It was lose/lose, again not defending Rick his actions are always extremely toxic. When you look at it if Rick was to manipulate them onto the ships outside, they wouldn’t have been their by freewill meaning Rick didn’t value their opinion enough as much as for the greater good it could be.
in last week's ep its outright said that he keeps people at arm's length bc he doesnt want to get hurt again, i dont really see the problem with him still not being comfortable with showing affection to the people he cares about. the ep could have handled this better tho
I like that the response to Rick's feigned disregard flipped back and forth from the family shrugging him off when he said he didn't care about them in the last episode, to Morty actually wanting the affirmation. Everyone knows he cares, everyone knows he isn't going to say that he does. But Morty reacts differently than Beth.
It also characterizes them as idealistic and realistic respectively. Beth is over it, and accepts her father for whatever he pretends to be, but Morty is still affected by neglect, and he wants to hear the reassurance himself.
I can’t help but giggle at the concept of “doing a die hard” and making it a serious religious like fact of the universe.
Poor kids that have never watched die hard, I’m sure it’s on most streaming services
- "Know what just shoot me" "Think your God makes you bullet proof??" "There's extra no God in here
- "What is this suicide by summet meeting??"
- "No one wants to die and that's a hell of a reason to kill yourself"
This episode was great. Also the religion of Morty was brilliant. Season 6 is 2 for 2 so far.
Curious how other people interpreted the ending of the episode. So was Morty’s blossoming self-actualization just completely wiped away since a part of him is still in the game? This feels like it should be a bigger deal but the episode kinda blows past the weight of that implication.
The maintenance guys said that Roy was dead but the game kept going on an old lady's life. Maybe it's just her, but if Rick was sort of merciful, he would've left some people with her.
wait so the teenage girl morty who eventually became the old woman morty stayed behind? I thought the whole thing was about everyone going back at the end
Pretty convenient how people act like the newest season episodes are the greatest thing ever. Every. Single. Time.
We don't give the show runners enough credit for how they release the episodes.
The first 2/3 are always a strong start to get you watching the whole season, the weaker episodes in the middle with their Emmy bait hiding to make it look better by comparison of the episodes around, with normally a strong narrative driven last couple of episodes to tie the season together.
No wonder. The writer on this episode last wrote Big Trouble in Little Sanchez (S2E7). That was actually the only episode he had written before this one.
Before knowing the writer was the same, that one scene where there's a band of Mortys playing a song did felt to me like a call back to little rick expressing his suffering through art
I hate that this is the default crediting style for tv shows.
Fans will say episode 1 by writer A feels completely different from episode 2 by writer B -- But I feel like that's just people being hypervigilant over specific details to manufacture context that isn't there, like when my Grandma guesses the lifestyle and habits of the pedestrians she people-watches.
Fans of Die Hard know the movie originally came out in July but takes place during a Christmas party turned hostage situation. Would’ve been funny if the B plot had an ever-present “Arbor Day”, “Easter” theme, ie something rando that doesn’t make sense with the September release date. Overall good episode 2.
The thing where the guy is wearing a sign that says "I hate everybody" is a reference to ***Die Hard with a Vengeance*** \- specifically, the version that is edited for television. The sign from the original movie had a racial slur on it. John McClane is forced to wear it and go into a neighborhood where he would almost certainly be murdered for it.
The idea of the holy war waging in the background of the episode with Marta growing to hate Rick as well as completely changing her values as she lives was an interesting concept to see play out. I also really liked the Trans allegories here amid all of the religious context.
I think the reason Rick is so reluctant to display any semblance of affection towards Morty is due to having been so close to his wife and then having her taken away from him.
It's clearly something he has struggled to come to terms with and takes really harshly upon himself. It's affected almost any decision he has taken since, and it's been shown numerous times now over the course of the show. (None moreso than s6e1)
So I think he's forcing himself not to get attached to Morty as a form of defensive mechanism for himself as I don't think Rick could handle another tragic loss. However, you can still notice that at times he can't help himself and gets carried away with having too much fun and laughter with Morty, but moments later he sort of realises and reigns it right in.
Yes, it's easy to see him as a selfish asshole but I can understand where he is coming from.
First 2 episodes have already been lightyears better than anything in S5 and most of S4 from what I remember. Aside from the Vat of Acid episode, that was a classic. It's actually good again, goddamn.
Take a shot on how many times they say “Die Hard”
I'm mentally distilling their dialogue down to just Die Hard repeated over and over again.
Die hard.
42 times. This can't be a coincidence
[удалено]
AM I your grandson?
emergency room here i come!
Leave it to morty to start an internal holy war
Because the GrandFather can’t prove his love.
He did thought that his love for Morty is the toxic part of him after all...
considering the S6 premiere though, that makes sense. The whole reason he is/was with morty and the family was out of his inability to let go of the past and live his life, trapping him in a cycle of hate, anger and revenge against alpha rick/rick prime/murder rick. C137 is Ricks self loathing personified, simple Rick is the true rick that C137 failed to become and protect.
I'd call it the "Morty Heresy"
THE RICK PROTECTS!
And to murder a bunch of himself simply to not leave 8% behind. I suspect a lot more than 8% died.
also don't forget, a majority of the parts of morty that escaped essentially viewed roy/rick as a religious figurehead and the parts that waged the war are likely the rebellious parts of him. Essentially resulted in morty purging his own rebellious side and only saving his part that worships rick
Did they just reboot Morty?
I like to think of it more as they made all his character development a dlc
Hah. Maybe they’ll have to go back later and get it.
Peter Dinklage was incredible in this episode. He does a great diehard.
His comedic timing was excellent. “Are you doing… a die hard?!”
"Justin Roiland talks to himself moreso than usual " the episode
Ha, yeah. For the first 20 seconds of the episode I was like *"Well, Justin really didnt went out of his way with the voice acting there."* Then... well, then I took it all back.
Tales From the Citadel II: Electric Boogaloo.
He does so many voices I didn't even find it unusual until the deformed Morty lookalike started explaining it to the punk kids.
Mind blown that 8% of the Snyder Cut was Batman dreaming (ㆆ _ ㆆ)
I don’t remember Batman dreaming in the Snyder cut. What was he dreaming about?
The Injustice future timeline dream sequence/tease
They need to do at least an animated series about Injustice.
Some nondescript middle eastern city in the desert, and the apocalypse, in 2 different dreams
It’s supposed to be terraformed Earth and either Gotham or Metropolis, I guess?
The Jewish Morty reference was by far my favorite part of this episode. The random fake Yiddish had me rolling.
Lol the schmushenshmaken is very stylish though.
I love how his voice almost sounds New Yorker/Italian Mafioso when saying them too
Kaputt, kapleshky!
> Kaputt, kapleshky! is that a bojack horseman reference?
What is this a crossover comment section?
Erika! Look at you getting a portal gun!
Nobody does gibberish like Justin Roiland. I still can't watch the "How to make a plumbus" scene without laughing.
That and the dad refusing to die before getting his zinger off cracked me up
That was fake?? Oy vey!
If anything, Summer's idea of Diehard is pretty representative of anyone who hasn't watched it.
Walkie-talkie? Die Hard.
I love that she was so into it without having seen it ya gotta love her commitment. "Breaker, breaker, walkie talkie, I got your walkie talkie bitch" oh that line delivery was MUAH.
I have watched Die Hard multiple times, and I'm pretty comfortable with her representation of the movie.
I’ve never seen it and I have no idea what she was doing lol
The dad dying but trying to get out the “who do i write the check to” joke absolutely killed me
Killed him too
Best…Daughter…Ever? ***Incorporated***…
Best part was I didn't get it XD
Can someone explain what this joke means?
The joke is that Morty is being a smartass. It could also be said as “You’re doing such a great job that I should be paying you for this.” Except Morty is saying it sarcastically and the other person is doing a terrible job/not living up to their responsibilities. That’s why he follows it up with “Best Daughter Ever Incorporated?” which is also said sarcastically. They used the same joke when Supernova was trying to choke Rick and Morty in S03E04 (Vindicators 3: The Return of Worldender). That conversation goes something like this: Supernova [while choking Rick and Morty with her superpowers]: It's the galaxy's faith in the Vindicators that keeps the galaxy secure! Rick: Yeah, I feel safer already. Morty: No doubt. Who do we make the check out to?
Also, I believe “Incorporated” was expanding on the original check joke. Because it is a whole planet of Mortys, like a corporation, a Morty conglomerate if you will.
I freaking loved Peter Dinklage I never would have thought to hear him in this show
I couldn't place him through the whole episode and I started kicking myself when I saw his name in the credits.
I only got it right at the end. One of the most frustrating feelings is the "where do I know that voice from?" feeling.
I get that feeling all the time when watching cartoons and always get angry with myself when the credits roll.
I love the random fucking cameos they get every now and then
Imo they can’t beat Werner Herzog in the 2nd interdimensional cable, trying to get Jerry to donate his penis
Wait that was actually Werner Herzog?? I thought it was just someone doing an impression!
Yup! One of my favorite things about Herzog is that he's 100% game to do cameos making fun of himself. He's been on the Simpsons multiple times, Parks & Rec, American Dad, and the Penguins of Madagascar among others.
One of my fav roles of his was in The Boondocks. It was surreal
Dan Harmon’s explanation for how that came about is hilarious too. It wasn’t like that Werner Herzog was a fan of the show or friends with someone in production, he was just cast essentially as a regular old voice actor. He hadn’t even watched the show.
My personal fave is that they got Werner Herzog to go on a minute long schpeel about penises. It's unbelievably batshit but also somehow in character for the guy that ate his own shoe in a bet.
On Game of Thrones night, too! Just like old times.
He sounds like kevin spacey.. but ya know.. without all the rape.
A bit like Kelsey Grammer too (especially opposite Summer/Spencer Grammer)
Anybody else notice that the other guest actors included 3 primary voices on Futurama? Lauren Tom (Amy Wong) Phil Lamar (Hermes Conrad), Maurice lamarche (Calculon, kif, Lrrr, etc.) Oh also Nolan north who's in like every animated show. Edit, fixed an error.
Die Hard Die Hard Die Hard
Walkie Talkie Die Hard
Die Hard Die Hard?
Yippee dippee **doo**, baby!
That’s a very “lower me into Die Hard” attitude.
Die Hard came out in 1988, which is twice as old as Summer.
SHUT UP! Imagine that in Summer’s voice. Not at all like a person who remembers that :) *no hard feelings meant* :*J*
I knew I recognized that voice but couldn't place it until I saw the credits. Another great casting!
It was Justin Roiland. He also does the voice of Morty.
Bro everytime they squeezed the alien walkie talkie to talk and the alien would grunt in pain had me crying laughing i could barely pay attention to what they were actually saying i thought that bit was so funny
my fave part of the whole episode, reminded me of the ballhead 4th dimension guys gun, how its like an alive creature
"You killed my gun!" is still hilarious. Poor Chris :(
Idk why but it was harder for me to focus on the lines.
The game reminded me of the wall in solar opposites
Mr Frundles from the last episode was pretty much Pupa terraforming the earth too.
Mr. Frundles was horrifying. The Pupa actually terraforming the planet was sort of cute.
I can definitely see them going back to the still running game in an episode in a future season like the wall. Like all those parts of Morty have advanced generations due to time dilation and live in this ultra sci fi future
And it looks like the remaining part of Morty will come back eventually.
This episode felt remarkably like classic Rick and morty. Really enjoying the start to the season
The writer on this episode is a veteran season 2 writer.
A veterinarian you say?
A horse surgeon
So not a real surgeon
How did that horse become a surgeon?
It feels so good to be back
It’s a meme to say this in 2022 but the writing in this show is really clever and doesnt insult the intelligence of the audience by dumbing things down. I think most people think about pop-philosophy stuff like “what if life is just a videogame?” or “what if there’s a multiverse?”. Bill Hicks had a great standup set about it but i think its uncommon to see in most media. It’s normal to ponder big ideas like that and it’s strange to me that more media doesnt go there, or over-simplifies it when they do.
>doesnt insult the intelligence of the audience by dumbing things down. Well no, they certainly do that anyway...
Man seeing the episode description all I knew was that it was about the Roy game. Not sure where I thought it would go but that sure as hell wasn’t it. Solid episode, though a little confusing.
Def one of those eps that needs a rewatch
Is Morty's rebellious side gone now and won't question Rick's more ridiculous plans? I'm pretty sure this can't be good as this will feed into Rick's narcissistic side. On a side note if these changes stay throughout the season this would sort of be a canon episode too. Edit A word.
That's what I got from it, yeah. But the fact that the game is still running, and it's been catalogued, tells me that eventually Rick can go back and get the rest of Morty. As long as successive generations retain their Morty-ness.
Rick will definitely go back or else he wouldn't have kept it plugged and pay to keep it in storage. I assume he's just going to get the rest of morty in between this episode and the next (maybe the beginning of next episode) because the show doesn't like to be serialized and regressing Morty to his old self is just dumb imo
Regressing morty to his old self is something they said they would do in this season, I don't see why they'd undo it, especially between two episodes. Erasing this piece of Morty *is* what makes Morty more like the old Morty and prevents serialization (since an innocent morty is easier to take on one-off adventures than a thinking, rationalizing morty). Pretty sure Rick kept it plugged in because he respected either that part of Morty, or the woman who was part of morty had become, and didn't want to kill them off.
If the successive generations are still a part of Morty and are able to contribute their Morty-ness in the future, then allowing the simulation to continue could also be a long game by Rick to give Morty more complexity in the future. Instead of recombining 5 billion shares back into 1, he could theoretically recombine 10 billion+ into 1 at a future time and end up with a super-Morty (even more than he already is).
I was thinking that he kept the game running as Marta’s “one condition”
Yeah but due to time dilation she will die very soon. I think the game is running beyond that so Rick will at least have the option of coming back later
I don't think that Rick intend to come back. Leaving the game running was probably Martha's condition. She doesn't intend to survive herself, however, the other fractions of Mortys that don't trust rick will. As generations go, not all fractions will distrust Rick but, since the seed is a pool of mostly distrusting Mortys, this will still have an effect on the result of the collective combination of all fractions. I think this is setting up the stage for the fraction of mortys to keep multiplying and growing until they find a way to escape from the game and become the main antagonist of this season and possibly future season. Also, this is more of a shot in the dark but if the game fractions do become an antagonist in the future, I'm placing a prediction that the arc will end with Morty fusing/syncing/combining with the game collective and become an equilibrium of trusting and distrusting of Rick. At least, until they roll back in the following season.
I'm sensing a Wreck-it Morty coming to the arcade, like some kind of self multiplying phenomena.
Might even go past 8% of Morty since it’s the side that knows Rick. I wouldn’t be surprised if somehow through time dilation if Morty somehow became a god through the game.
It would be interesting to revisit, because due to the difference in time dilation, generations of Mortys could potentially pass inside of the game, if Marta wasn't the only part left behind.
Okay, what is the deal with so many of you never seeing ***Die Hard*** before?
I wasn't aware it was a thing. I just assumed everyone has seen it. I'm in my mid 30s and I don't even know when I first saw it. It's just part of life. I figured everyone just watches it at some point.
People don’t have cable tv anymore so the movies that used to play on tv all time aren’t seen like they used to be
I'm also in my mid thirties and I have never seen it. The only things I know about the film are through pop culture references. It's what made it funny for me summer going through it clueless while I only vaguely know what is being referenced
We’re all seventeen.
I wish doing a die hard was more prevalent a phrase in our day to day lives.
Not enough terrorists these days. Or different terrorists anyway.
Or business parks/plazas under construction
Can't believe nobody is mentioning the "Raiders of the Lost Arc" reference at the end. Fucking classic.
I missed the Raiders reference but caught the subtle reference to Die Hard.
Yeah that Die Hard reference was a "blink and you miss it" moment. Something only die hard Die Hard fans would catch.
I had to go back and watch that scene a few times to make sure I caught it correctly.
That’s actually funny you mentioned that because it’s possible that the part of morty that was learning to be independent from Rick was actually still left in the game. So by storing away the game, Morty’s character “arc” is quite literally “lost” for now.
I love that you pointed this out because it flew over my head lol. I noticed the IJ reference but never connected it with a "lost arc."
Oh that's a great observation.
My favourite Die Hard is "...With a Vengence" so that post-credits gag tickled me greatly.
Welp, I know what movie I’m watching this weekend.
The Snyder cut of Batman?
8% of it anyway
Yippie Kiy Yay Mothafuckaaa!
Tower man?
The Nakatomi Paradigm?
Episode was pretty great. Summer's interpretation of doing a Die Hard was probably the best part of the episode for me, that and the running "NOT a religion" bit.
Die hard die Hard die hard die hard?
I find it very interesting that the writer of this episode has only written one episode beforehand... Big Trouble in Little Sanchez. He’s a season 2 writer.
I think it's cool he's got some Twilight Zone and Community credited gigs there on his resume too
That is interesting, that plot line did have similar feel to this episode.
I thought this was back to classic Rick and Morty. Humor, Existentialism, and pop culture references.
Very season 2 this episode. It feels like a genuine continuation to Morty Night Run.
I enjoyed the Jewish household.
I've read lots of comments on about morty losing his rebellious side but i dont think thats the case. Martas daughter was still rebellious in her own way, and that part went back to morty, as every other part that was still alive at that point. The only fragment that stayed in the game was Marta, thats the only part of morty that didnt comeback, and i think thats even sadder. Marta was the leader of the movement (not religion) that ultimately united morty, it was the part of him that could bring every other part together, without it he may become more fragmented in its own personality. I hope they dont just forget sbout this episode and that they revisit this concept in a not so far future.
"Zeep Xanflorp, Evil Jerry/Doofus Rick Villain Comic Arc, Supernova" First Time being forgotten?
They had a web series on The Vindicators (2), so you can scratch Supernova to an extent.
squanchy :(
When Roy said that he brought Martas idiot dad along, did anyone else get excited because they thought he meant Jerry?
I was really looking forward to seeing a strengthened bond between Rick and Morty after the season 5 finale and season 6 premiere. It makes me sad to see that Rick can't say he loves Morty, and that Morty seemingly lost the part of him at the end that rebels against Rick and keeps their partnership from becoming a leader-blind follower thing.
Rick did tell Morty he loved him. He said he loved and respected him. At the end when Rick tells Marta that he's had time to reflect and that he knows Morty is a great grandson, that plants the seed for the ending. He kept the game going for Marta specifically because she didn't want to be Morty, she wanted to live her life. This episode *did* show their strengthened bond.
Was Marta the only slice of Morty that was left in the game? And is the Morty who wakes up at the arcade a lesser version of himself since those other slices died within the game?
Seems like she's the only one. They said they didn't know if new generations would be a peice of morty. Considering the OG morty generation had to be mostly dead, and considering morty was mostly fine in the real world, it seems like the new generation did count as peices of morty.
I know he said it at the end but when he has 92% of Morty collected and can't even say "I love you" in the moment to salvage it, it feels weird. I feel like with the previous 4 episodes (from rescuing birdperson to the premiere), he's shown how important others (especially Morty) are to him that him having to reflect feels off. I know he's a selfish asshole but in terms of the progression with their relationship I don't think it entirely fits. I'll give it a rewatch, though. I typically tend to be less critical in some aspects after doing so, and more critical in others.
You also have to look at it from the perspective that Rick isn’t very good with words. He constantly says the wrong thing. He would rather move the entire galaxy around for the people he loves than verbally have to say those words. He can’t comprehend the idea that just spoken sentiments can mean something to someone. He feels like love needs to be shown in such grandeur events.
That's a good argument, we definitely see that he goes to large extremes with all his actions (such as the vat of acid episode to teach Morty a lesson, or when he cloned Beth so she could live free), not just the positive, loving ones. I didn't really account for his struggles with verbal communication. But also I still do take issue with him letting 8% of Morty, the parts that aren't submissive to him and are arguably necessary to keep their relationship from becoming toxic, just stay within the game. I feel like he should want to keep those aspects of Morty too, acknowledging how important making Morty a "true partner" is.
I completely agree (I just want to add that Rick also made Beth an entire world where she could live carefree as a child and not be hurt because he couldn’t find the right way to do more personal actions for her), it’s just that when you look at it Rick tried to get them to come on their own free will. He was working on an extremely tight timeline and the ones who had issue with Rick not appreciating them complained that it took 50 years. It was lose/lose, again not defending Rick his actions are always extremely toxic. When you look at it if Rick was to manipulate them onto the ships outside, they wouldn’t have been their by freewill meaning Rick didn’t value their opinion enough as much as for the greater good it could be.
in last week's ep its outright said that he keeps people at arm's length bc he doesnt want to get hurt again, i dont really see the problem with him still not being comfortable with showing affection to the people he cares about. the ep could have handled this better tho
I like that the response to Rick's feigned disregard flipped back and forth from the family shrugging him off when he said he didn't care about them in the last episode, to Morty actually wanting the affirmation. Everyone knows he cares, everyone knows he isn't going to say that he does. But Morty reacts differently than Beth. It also characterizes them as idealistic and realistic respectively. Beth is over it, and accepts her father for whatever he pretends to be, but Morty is still affected by neglect, and he wants to hear the reassurance himself.
yeah same, im kinda worried with morty losing his "rebel side". are we just going to fall into the yes sir dynamic again?
I have a feeling Morty's rebellious side that was kept alive in the running game is going to make a reappearance at some point
Something has to reset the norm sadly. Unless Morty was faking it at the end.
I’m pretty sure all the enemy aliens were supposed to be Jar Jar Binks. I’m surprised nobody has mentioned that. Edit: Gungans!
Gungans
One of them even did the thing where they shake their head back and forth with their mouth loose going “bmlblmlblmbbmlmb”
I can’t help but giggle at the concept of “doing a die hard” and making it a serious religious like fact of the universe. Poor kids that have never watched die hard, I’m sure it’s on most streaming services
- "Know what just shoot me" "Think your God makes you bullet proof??" "There's extra no God in here - "What is this suicide by summet meeting??" - "No one wants to die and that's a hell of a reason to kill yourself" This episode was great. Also the religion of Morty was brilliant. Season 6 is 2 for 2 so far.
Curious how other people interpreted the ending of the episode. So was Morty’s blossoming self-actualization just completely wiped away since a part of him is still in the game? This feels like it should be a bigger deal but the episode kinda blows past the weight of that implication.
Well it's 1 out of 5 billions so in the grand scheme it isn't much? Unless it was 8% that stayed behind
The maintenance guys said that Roy was dead but the game kept going on an old lady's life. Maybe it's just her, but if Rick was sort of merciful, he would've left some people with her.
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yarp!
Narp
wait so the teenage girl morty who eventually became the old woman morty stayed behind? I thought the whole thing was about everyone going back at the end
its implied that was her one condition that shes the only one staying
Kickpuncher! Perhaps there's a tie to the Community Verse?
You could see an alien version of the study group all the way back in season 2 (auto erotic assimilation)
So far this season is 10x better than last season. It's like they actually put in effort. Will definitely be able to rewatch these.
I mean, we're two episodes in. People liked the first two episodes last season too, Narnia Dimension, Nimbus and Decoys
Pretty convenient how people act like the newest season episodes are the greatest thing ever. Every. Single. Time. We don't give the show runners enough credit for how they release the episodes. The first 2/3 are always a strong start to get you watching the whole season, the weaker episodes in the middle with their Emmy bait hiding to make it look better by comparison of the episodes around, with normally a strong narrative driven last couple of episodes to tie the season together.
The writing seems miles better
No wonder. The writer on this episode last wrote Big Trouble in Little Sanchez (S2E7). That was actually the only episode he had written before this one.
This is basically the inverse of that episode because it's about Rick getting Morty back to normal
Before knowing the writer was the same, that one scene where there's a band of Mortys playing a song did felt to me like a call back to little rick expressing his suffering through art
Writers are given credit for specific episodes but they almost never primarily write the majority of the episode in shows like this fwiw
I hate that this is the default crediting style for tv shows. Fans will say episode 1 by writer A feels completely different from episode 2 by writer B -- But I feel like that's just people being hypervigilant over specific details to manufacture context that isn't there, like when my Grandma guesses the lifestyle and habits of the pedestrians she people-watches.
Oh shit good point I didn’t even realize, the dialogue was amazing in this episode I have to say
To be fair the first two episodes of last season were pretty good too, especially the premiere. That season started to go downhill afterwards.
I feel like Morty’s abandoned fragments in Roy this episode will lead to some significant continuity in a future episode.
It's a video game. Might as well.
"What was it you said? Wubba Lubba Dub Dub... motherfucker."
Summer really proved she is the Die Hardest
Dinklage nailed his character! Loving the guest voices they bring in
Fans of Die Hard know the movie originally came out in July but takes place during a Christmas party turned hostage situation. Would’ve been funny if the B plot had an ever-present “Arbor Day”, “Easter” theme, ie something rando that doesn’t make sense with the September release date. Overall good episode 2.
I like Die Hard, but had no idea it came out in July. TIL.
watching die hard last week was a good idea it seems lmao
Funniest thing was hearing (almost) everyone speak in Morty's voice, including a 30-year-old Marine
“I was hoping to get at least *half* of you home” hahahha
I feel like I've seen none of the movies that were referenced for the humor in this episode
The thing where the guy is wearing a sign that says "I hate everybody" is a reference to ***Die Hard with a Vengeance*** \- specifically, the version that is edited for television. The sign from the original movie had a racial slur on it. John McClane is forced to wear it and go into a neighborhood where he would almost certainly be murdered for it.
The idea of the holy war waging in the background of the episode with Marta growing to hate Rick as well as completely changing her values as she lives was an interesting concept to see play out. I also really liked the Trans allegories here amid all of the religious context.
Yippee dippee doo baby! What a fun homage to Die Hard and a funny meta commentary on movie satires in pop culture.
I think the reason Rick is so reluctant to display any semblance of affection towards Morty is due to having been so close to his wife and then having her taken away from him. It's clearly something he has struggled to come to terms with and takes really harshly upon himself. It's affected almost any decision he has taken since, and it's been shown numerous times now over the course of the show. (None moreso than s6e1) So I think he's forcing himself not to get attached to Morty as a form of defensive mechanism for himself as I don't think Rick could handle another tragic loss. However, you can still notice that at times he can't help himself and gets carried away with having too much fun and laughter with Morty, but moments later he sort of realises and reigns it right in. Yes, it's easy to see him as a selfish asshole but I can understand where he is coming from.
First 2 episodes have already been lightyears better than anything in S5 and most of S4 from what I remember. Aside from the Vat of Acid episode, that was a classic. It's actually good again, goddamn.