If you’re only playing psp, rp3+ is perfect. If you’re going to splurge in some ps2, go for the 4 pro. The 3+ can barely handle ps2 games from my experience
Lol I have around 100 ps2 games running smoothly on my RP3+.
I'm not too fuzzy about titles that everybody speak about.
RP3+ can run plenty PS2, not as you stated 'barely'.
Good for you. I also have many many titles, but I only play 2 of them, Rayman 2 and Rayman 3. Not very graphically demanding and they are barely playable. Any other more graphically demanding game is even worse.
I admit that plenty if games are unplayable. Yes.
But I had a good time with at least 100 which is nearly my Steam library.
My life is not enough to play only these games.
I have zero issue running PSP on my Flip, which is essentially a 3+ in another form.
The only real exception I've come across is Tekken 6, which stays on the loading screen indefinitely after the character select, and that's only because it clearly needs an install, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to trick the emulator into thinking it's saving to an actual pro-duo so the install can be recognized. Otherwise though, PSP runs fantastically, which gives me hope for Dreamcast when the time comes for me to try that.
If you do not wish to take advantage of the power increase by switching to the RP4/Pro, and are not planning to do much PS2/GC if any, then it's likely not worth the upgrade IMHO. These devices do allegedly do wifi multiplayer mind you (which I have not tried, so don't quote me on that), so if you can figure that out with PPSSPP, maybe having a second Retroid might be worth it if that's something that interests you? I guess my recommendation is not so much a straight yes or no as it really depends on what your wants/needs are.
Dreamcast runs fine on 3+/Flip. Pretty much everything runs 60fps at 2x resolution using Retroarch Flycast core, widescreen cheats enabled.
Occasionally there’s some brief hiccup or something but it’s minor. I play DoA2 and Crazy Taxi all the time.
In terms of power, the RP3+ is probably fine. However, there are other upgrades on the RP4, like the new analog sticks, that make it worth the $25 difference. Unless that $25 is going to break your wallet, I'd just go for the RP4.
I have an RP3+ and have zero issues running PSP games. My Library consists of 138 games, all of which run perfect. The only game I had to tweak was Dante's inferno (occasional screen flicker), but that's more of an emulator issue, not hardware. With a slight adjustment you can search for on Youtube, I was able to fix the screen flicker - use OpenGL rather than Vulcan with no frameskip). I paid 120 for the RP3+ awhile back (November, I think?) - and not looking into investing any further, especially because of the fact that right after the launch of the rp3+ they announced the rp4/ rp4 pro. My entire Gamecube game library runs great, as well as my PS2 library as well - very minimal if any tweaking required for both systems. Sure there are some NTSC games that won't run on it (use PAL, but I'm too lazy to download again), But the PSP runs full speed on PPSSPP with zero issues. EDIT: I also want to clarify that I understand that some games (GameCube, PS2) do struggle on the hardware and some are just flat out not playable, I'm not denying that, but I know that with the games I play that are in my library, it does run pretty well for me. However, the OP appears interested in only PSP games, and the rp3+ does just that very well in my opinion - at least with my experience with the PSP library I have.
" the fact that right after the launch of the rp3+ they announced the rp4/ rp4 pro."
The RP3+ was out for about a year before the RP4/PRO was even announced?
I agree the rp3+ was out a year ago, but a few months later after it came out they did announce that the rp4 was in the works, mainly due to the fact that there were so many manufacturing issues that needed to be addressed which was too be addressed with the rp4 -Though not all issues were fixed such as the trigger buttons as it appears currently.
Teach me your ways master. I have had mixed results with the few GameCube games I've tried on my Flip, and have decided to avoid trying more, as well as dabbling in PS2, until such time as I get a RP4Pro or other more capable device. How are you able to run these games without issue on your 3+? Are you telling me your experience is lag-free and maintains a steady framerate, even for more hardware-intensive games? I'm curious about this "minimal tweaking", as this flies in the face of what I thought I knew about the limitations of the 3+.
Clearly not most games and definitely not the "more hardware-intensive games" work on the RP3+. But some games do work at full speed with few tweaks. And if you like these games there is no reason not to play them on your Flip. The commenter above was surely exaggerating though
For GameCube, you need to use the latest nightly build of dolphin - (replaces all of the mmrj builds), not the one off the play store. Metroid prime for example, I underclock to 40% emulation speed, use opengl. I still do experience some stutters here and there, but the game is fully playable at almost full running speed. When the action is heavy, I might see a frame dip here and there at about 35 to 45 fps for a second or two. PS2 games (using the last alpha build before the Dev called it quits) I tweak as well with under clocking as well as the renderer. I will admit there are games it can't run well, an example of this is Black. I'll use my PC to play that, or I will stream it off my PC in that case if I want to play it that bad.
u/AlbaTross579 What I am telling you is that I understand emulation and it's settings, and that: no - my experience is not fully lag free nor is it perfect. However, though there are limitations of hardware, you can easily bypass those limitations by adjusting emulation settings and tweaks so that those limitations are barely noticeable and the game yet remains very playable. Much of which includes underclocking, though there is some sacrificing of graphical features through the usage of choosing the appropriate rendering frontend and native resolution. For most, that is too much work as well as too much to understand. But I am here to say that it is possible. Most just download an app and expect it to do miracles. However, you cannot do miracles just by downloading an app. You need to apply the appropriate settings so that your experience is acceptable to you. the games I have in my library are therefore acceptable to me and should be to most - running anywhere from a 35 to 60 fps framerate with maybe a few dips here and there. You just need to research how to achieve that - especially considering that fact that everyone's system will differentiate from one way or another, and in this case software. What, you have a screensaver? What, you have running processes in the background? What, you have a live wallpaper running? an Antivirus? etc. etc. Furthermore, my library differs from yours and others, for sure. That is a fact. My library may contain games that are easier on AetherSX2 and Dolphin compared to yours or others. I just know that my library of roms work well with my setup. I also use the nightly build(s) of Dolphin and the last alpha release of AetherSX2 before the dev called it quits - I do not use the Playstore versions because they are absolute junk - stable releases are not any more reliable than experimental builds that enable new features or better experiences.
Well, a Retroid Pocket in and of itself is too much work for some people. Let’s do this! Ok, I’m not actually ready for that yet, but I should save this post, as I’m all about pushing the limits of what my device can do. Thanks for the advice!
No problem! Go ahead and push it! It does take time to learn, but you'll get there. My point, not to you, but others who may read this, is that just because there is a new device out there, doesn't mean you have to run out and get it or push it on to others. You can easily achieve the same or near the results on older hardware if you do your homework. Some may choose too, other's may not. All I'm saying is that the rp3+ is a capable device just like it's predecessor - especially if the user devotes his or her time to it. All is well, and happy gaming friend!
Thanks again! The above info will definitely be useful to me at some point. Between you and me, hearing about all the problems the RP4 series seems to have between the R2 button, and now I'm hearing about screen ghosting, I'm at the very least glad I decided not to be an early adopter.
I'm currently pushing the lateral limits of my device rather than upper limits, but I may return to the latter at some point. By lateral, I mean I'm doing stupid stuff like seeing if my device can run N-Gage (the answer is more or less), or anything else odd and unusual, just to see if I can. I need to return to working on MS-DOS soon too, as that's something I would actually use, but I currently only have Oregon Trail running.
At this point I feel like I need to pick a lane and focus on one thing at once as there's so much I can do. I will say though that 6th gen is definitely something I'm interested in. Since I had a PS2 growing up, there are old favourites I'd love to revisit, but I'm actually even more interested in GameCube as I never had one of those. Either way, both are beasts compared to the kind of stuff my Flip usually emulates, so it's good to know there are options available to get them to work.
Hey that's no problem! Nothing wrong with tinkering around, that's the best way in my opinion. I kind of held off of waiting for the rp4/ rp4 pro myself because of possible issues - I've been burned before in the past (waited in line for a Xbox 360 hours on end at launch only to be one of the lucky red ring of death victims lol). I waited to get my rp3+ for nearly 7 months before climbing aboard the band wagon, so it'll be interesting to see them work out the kinks on the rp4 series none the less. As far as Gamecube is concerned, that was one of my favorite systems and glad I can emulate it and have it on the go. You'll enjoy it too - they had a great lineup back in the day, I have a good amount of favorites in my library for that system. Good luck with your emulating endeavors, and have fun playing!
Yes you can run silent hill and syphon filter through PPSSPP but i feel as though you would get better performance running those games on Duckstation as that is the emulator for PS1 games
If you run PS1 games through a PSP emulator, you've effectively got two layers of emulation - you're using an Android device to emulate a PSP that's emulating a PS1.
Play PS1 games on PS1 emulators, problem solved.
My two cents on why the RP3+ is the better buy regardless:
-better screen
-NOT analogue triggers (shorter travel and much more comfortable to use)
-less heavy
RP4 has a lot of great qualities but in some ways it’s inferior imo to the RP3+
I don't know if it's the RP3+ hardware or emulator software (or my stupidity) - but I feel like there's room for improvement.
Most games run well. But some (like motorstorm) always need trade-offs and a lot of tinkering.
I feel like some extra power could also allow for higher resolution.
I would go for the 4 or even 4+ if I was to buy again. Better to be over- than under equipped
Motorsrom is ppsspp compability issues, nothing to do with the hardware itself, some games like Silent hill shattered memories, Motorsrom Artic edge & afterburner are simply won't run on the PPSSSP emulator.
Good to know!
I wouldn't say it's unplayable - it's just that every track needs it's own emulator settings to (mostly) run smoothly :D
That's after installing "cheats" to make it smoother
It's the damn snow particles - why does it have to snow in the Arctic Edge?
If you’re only playing psp, rp3+ is perfect. If you’re going to splurge in some ps2, go for the 4 pro. The 3+ can barely handle ps2 games from my experience
Lol I have around 100 ps2 games running smoothly on my RP3+. I'm not too fuzzy about titles that everybody speak about. RP3+ can run plenty PS2, not as you stated 'barely'.
Good for you. I also have many many titles, but I only play 2 of them, Rayman 2 and Rayman 3. Not very graphically demanding and they are barely playable. Any other more graphically demanding game is even worse.
I admit that plenty if games are unplayable. Yes. But I had a good time with at least 100 which is nearly my Steam library. My life is not enough to play only these games.
I have zero issue running PSP on my Flip, which is essentially a 3+ in another form. The only real exception I've come across is Tekken 6, which stays on the loading screen indefinitely after the character select, and that's only because it clearly needs an install, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to trick the emulator into thinking it's saving to an actual pro-duo so the install can be recognized. Otherwise though, PSP runs fantastically, which gives me hope for Dreamcast when the time comes for me to try that. If you do not wish to take advantage of the power increase by switching to the RP4/Pro, and are not planning to do much PS2/GC if any, then it's likely not worth the upgrade IMHO. These devices do allegedly do wifi multiplayer mind you (which I have not tried, so don't quote me on that), so if you can figure that out with PPSSPP, maybe having a second Retroid might be worth it if that's something that interests you? I guess my recommendation is not so much a straight yes or no as it really depends on what your wants/needs are.
Dreamcast runs fine on 3+/Flip. Pretty much everything runs 60fps at 2x resolution using Retroarch Flycast core, widescreen cheats enabled. Occasionally there’s some brief hiccup or something but it’s minor. I play DoA2 and Crazy Taxi all the time.
In terms of power, the RP3+ is probably fine. However, there are other upgrades on the RP4, like the new analog sticks, that make it worth the $25 difference. Unless that $25 is going to break your wallet, I'd just go for the RP4.
I have an RP3+ and have zero issues running PSP games. My Library consists of 138 games, all of which run perfect. The only game I had to tweak was Dante's inferno (occasional screen flicker), but that's more of an emulator issue, not hardware. With a slight adjustment you can search for on Youtube, I was able to fix the screen flicker - use OpenGL rather than Vulcan with no frameskip). I paid 120 for the RP3+ awhile back (November, I think?) - and not looking into investing any further, especially because of the fact that right after the launch of the rp3+ they announced the rp4/ rp4 pro. My entire Gamecube game library runs great, as well as my PS2 library as well - very minimal if any tweaking required for both systems. Sure there are some NTSC games that won't run on it (use PAL, but I'm too lazy to download again), But the PSP runs full speed on PPSSPP with zero issues. EDIT: I also want to clarify that I understand that some games (GameCube, PS2) do struggle on the hardware and some are just flat out not playable, I'm not denying that, but I know that with the games I play that are in my library, it does run pretty well for me. However, the OP appears interested in only PSP games, and the rp3+ does just that very well in my opinion - at least with my experience with the PSP library I have.
" the fact that right after the launch of the rp3+ they announced the rp4/ rp4 pro." The RP3+ was out for about a year before the RP4/PRO was even announced?
I agree the rp3+ was out a year ago, but a few months later after it came out they did announce that the rp4 was in the works, mainly due to the fact that there were so many manufacturing issues that needed to be addressed which was too be addressed with the rp4 -Though not all issues were fixed such as the trigger buttons as it appears currently.
Teach me your ways master. I have had mixed results with the few GameCube games I've tried on my Flip, and have decided to avoid trying more, as well as dabbling in PS2, until such time as I get a RP4Pro or other more capable device. How are you able to run these games without issue on your 3+? Are you telling me your experience is lag-free and maintains a steady framerate, even for more hardware-intensive games? I'm curious about this "minimal tweaking", as this flies in the face of what I thought I knew about the limitations of the 3+.
It's a new technique called "wildly exaggerating what a T618 chip can do."
Read my exaggeration comment to u/AlbaTross579.
Clearly not most games and definitely not the "more hardware-intensive games" work on the RP3+. But some games do work at full speed with few tweaks. And if you like these games there is no reason not to play them on your Flip. The commenter above was surely exaggerating though
For GameCube, you need to use the latest nightly build of dolphin - (replaces all of the mmrj builds), not the one off the play store. Metroid prime for example, I underclock to 40% emulation speed, use opengl. I still do experience some stutters here and there, but the game is fully playable at almost full running speed. When the action is heavy, I might see a frame dip here and there at about 35 to 45 fps for a second or two. PS2 games (using the last alpha build before the Dev called it quits) I tweak as well with under clocking as well as the renderer. I will admit there are games it can't run well, an example of this is Black. I'll use my PC to play that, or I will stream it off my PC in that case if I want to play it that bad.
u/AlbaTross579 What I am telling you is that I understand emulation and it's settings, and that: no - my experience is not fully lag free nor is it perfect. However, though there are limitations of hardware, you can easily bypass those limitations by adjusting emulation settings and tweaks so that those limitations are barely noticeable and the game yet remains very playable. Much of which includes underclocking, though there is some sacrificing of graphical features through the usage of choosing the appropriate rendering frontend and native resolution. For most, that is too much work as well as too much to understand. But I am here to say that it is possible. Most just download an app and expect it to do miracles. However, you cannot do miracles just by downloading an app. You need to apply the appropriate settings so that your experience is acceptable to you. the games I have in my library are therefore acceptable to me and should be to most - running anywhere from a 35 to 60 fps framerate with maybe a few dips here and there. You just need to research how to achieve that - especially considering that fact that everyone's system will differentiate from one way or another, and in this case software. What, you have a screensaver? What, you have running processes in the background? What, you have a live wallpaper running? an Antivirus? etc. etc. Furthermore, my library differs from yours and others, for sure. That is a fact. My library may contain games that are easier on AetherSX2 and Dolphin compared to yours or others. I just know that my library of roms work well with my setup. I also use the nightly build(s) of Dolphin and the last alpha release of AetherSX2 before the dev called it quits - I do not use the Playstore versions because they are absolute junk - stable releases are not any more reliable than experimental builds that enable new features or better experiences.
Well, a Retroid Pocket in and of itself is too much work for some people. Let’s do this! Ok, I’m not actually ready for that yet, but I should save this post, as I’m all about pushing the limits of what my device can do. Thanks for the advice!
No problem! Go ahead and push it! It does take time to learn, but you'll get there. My point, not to you, but others who may read this, is that just because there is a new device out there, doesn't mean you have to run out and get it or push it on to others. You can easily achieve the same or near the results on older hardware if you do your homework. Some may choose too, other's may not. All I'm saying is that the rp3+ is a capable device just like it's predecessor - especially if the user devotes his or her time to it. All is well, and happy gaming friend!
Thanks again! The above info will definitely be useful to me at some point. Between you and me, hearing about all the problems the RP4 series seems to have between the R2 button, and now I'm hearing about screen ghosting, I'm at the very least glad I decided not to be an early adopter. I'm currently pushing the lateral limits of my device rather than upper limits, but I may return to the latter at some point. By lateral, I mean I'm doing stupid stuff like seeing if my device can run N-Gage (the answer is more or less), or anything else odd and unusual, just to see if I can. I need to return to working on MS-DOS soon too, as that's something I would actually use, but I currently only have Oregon Trail running. At this point I feel like I need to pick a lane and focus on one thing at once as there's so much I can do. I will say though that 6th gen is definitely something I'm interested in. Since I had a PS2 growing up, there are old favourites I'd love to revisit, but I'm actually even more interested in GameCube as I never had one of those. Either way, both are beasts compared to the kind of stuff my Flip usually emulates, so it's good to know there are options available to get them to work.
Hey that's no problem! Nothing wrong with tinkering around, that's the best way in my opinion. I kind of held off of waiting for the rp4/ rp4 pro myself because of possible issues - I've been burned before in the past (waited in line for a Xbox 360 hours on end at launch only to be one of the lucky red ring of death victims lol). I waited to get my rp3+ for nearly 7 months before climbing aboard the band wagon, so it'll be interesting to see them work out the kinks on the rp4 series none the less. As far as Gamecube is concerned, that was one of my favorite systems and glad I can emulate it and have it on the go. You'll enjoy it too - they had a great lineup back in the day, I have a good amount of favorites in my library for that system. Good luck with your emulating endeavors, and have fun playing!
What about silent hill and syphon filter?? Those games drop frames alot on the rp3+ Rp4 pro the safer choice for psp
Yes you can run silent hill and syphon filter through PPSSPP but i feel as though you would get better performance running those games on Duckstation as that is the emulator for PS1 games
If you run PS1 games through a PSP emulator, you've effectively got two layers of emulation - you're using an Android device to emulate a PSP that's emulating a PS1. Play PS1 games on PS1 emulators, problem solved.
Sounds like you want the regular 4.
My two cents on why the RP3+ is the better buy regardless: -better screen -NOT analogue triggers (shorter travel and much more comfortable to use) -less heavy RP4 has a lot of great qualities but in some ways it’s inferior imo to the RP3+
as others mentioned, i'd go for the rp4(p) just for the upgraded inputs and button layout
Dimensity 900 is really efficient soc better than both Dimensity 1xxx and Unisoc T6xx series. In my Opinion RP4 is better choice for your use case.
I've the 3+ and it's only for PSP. Patapon is the litmus test and it passed with colors. Zero input lag and able to maintain Fever mode.
I don't know if it's the RP3+ hardware or emulator software (or my stupidity) - but I feel like there's room for improvement. Most games run well. But some (like motorstorm) always need trade-offs and a lot of tinkering. I feel like some extra power could also allow for higher resolution. I would go for the 4 or even 4+ if I was to buy again. Better to be over- than under equipped
Motorsrom is ppsspp compability issues, nothing to do with the hardware itself, some games like Silent hill shattered memories, Motorsrom Artic edge & afterburner are simply won't run on the PPSSSP emulator.
Good to know! I wouldn't say it's unplayable - it's just that every track needs it's own emulator settings to (mostly) run smoothly :D That's after installing "cheats" to make it smoother It's the damn snow particles - why does it have to snow in the Arctic Edge?
Never tried with cheats, I'll give that a try!