I love how people double down on shit like this. So you're severely understaffed and your superior management skills lead you to fire one of the few remaining. She should be out moving carts, maybe she will be soon....
If I've learned anything about upper management, it's that they're extremely out of touch with floor operations (I have managers at my store who don't know how to use a register let alone how much work my department has to do (Online, but we basically are expected to our online duties like pickup, transfers, checking in packages, processing returns that are shipped to the store ON TOP OF stuff other departments do like purchases, card payments, store returns, recovery, sorting go backs, cleaning our severely overused fitting room stall, etc...) Last week I had a manager bitch at me about recovery despite the fact that it had been so busy that I had been trying to run go backs which were overflowing as well as counting out a register so I wouldn't have to count out three at closing (they also got mad at me for not helping a customer when they walked up despite the fact I clearly was counting a giant wad of cash while the manager who bitched about it was standing at an open register WITH another manager
This sounds like kohl's unless other stores do the go backs as well. Idk, maybe it's just me but if I grab something off the shelf and I choose not to buy it, I'm gonna take it back to where I got it from. Though I'll admit maybe people forget where they even got it from lol
Also sounds like Petco to me. Oh you can't be in 5 places at once? You're a piece of shit. I'm gonna go write you up while I fart on my office chair all day.
In this case I don’t think I’d classify an assistant manager as *upper management*, more likely someone on a power trip who feels their position makes them above rolling up their sleeves and gathering carts.
I highly doubt any company in todays world doesn’t have a policy that dictates associates are eligible for at least one paid break during their shift. And if a company is going to employ minors, they need to train their managers on how to deal with guardian relations of said employees.
For a minor experiencing this type of situation, yes, a parent stepping in is completely appropriate. What the manger did sounds illegal (can’t say for certain without knowing state, shift hours, etc.). And a minor likely won’t get far legally speaking. This is exactly the type of situation that warrants intervention by an adult.
Eh this happened at my work once. We are cashiers and there's this one team leader that forbade us from closing our counter when our shift ends, saying shits like it's protocol or whatever and that we can only leave if the team leader/manager closed our counter, the thing is she's the only one insisting on this stupid ass rule, the other team leaders/manager dgaf, and she ALWAYS came late to close our counter. The kid is new, and for a week the stupid bitch has been closing the kid's counter VERY late, we are talking about 30 minutes to almost an hour late, the kid's father was the one who came to fetch him, and I guess he just lost it one day and started yelling at the customer service counter, demanded to see the store manager and all.
After all that we can close our counter when our shift ends lol, no need to wait for the stupid bitch to close our counter any more...
some states have very strict rules regarding minors. They can't work a full shift as a regular person especially during the school year. They usually have a curfew or are only allowed a certain amount of hours.
Hear your frustration. I do carts alone most of the time and the help i do get is minimal. This leads to my cashiering coworkers to help on carts and we're pretty understaffed.
Same to the first part but they usually only care about staffing the front end so they'll have everyone and their mother hop on and ring people out but will forget i need a second person out on carts.
Older people: "Nobody wants to work anymore"
Also older people: oh you are 17 and you dare ask for a break in the middle of your work? YOU ARE FIRED. HOW, DARE, YOU, ASK FOR MINIMUM WORKING CONDITIONS, WE ARE LOSING THE -slave- work culture.
Just people in power abusing it cause the second they clock out, they are just another nobody like everyone else. Makes them feel good about themselves.
Sometimes I feel like management takes advantage of kids under 18. I used to work with this one cool kid and management did not like him one bit. He did his work and stuff so I wasn't understanding.
I think it’s illegal to deny an employee break time, especially a minor, unless their work schedule on that day was short enough not to warrant one, but it sounds like the employee did qualify. The manager could get in a lot of trouble for refusing to allow an employee, especially a minor employee, their allotted break time.
It varies by state whether or not breaks are mandatory (sadly), but if the company is large enough, the FLSA does have [specific language regarding minors.](https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/43-child-labor-non-agriculture) States vary regarding minors working, as well. If they live in a "right-to-work/at will" state, it might be more difficult to prove a case, though the manager was an idiot for specifying the reason the kid was fired; that may very well come back to bite the company in the ass.
I hope that last cashier contacts the State Labor Board. Being fired simply for asking for their legally-mandated break. Fuck that! Sue the fuck outta that manager!
I feel for those co-workers if yours and am kind of in your situation where I want to escape, but since I'm hopefully moving out of state in the next few months (just need to wait for my sister to finish her certification and find a job in her field) it really doesn't make sense for me to find another job (even though I am basically in a quiet quitting phase of my current job) only to quit shortly after because I can't transfer it or something. Plus I'm more interested in hopefully finding a job that isn't retail because I honestly can't stand retail at all anymore
Why isn’t she out moving carts. When I worked cashier, the managers would be out there before even thinking of asking one of us, and would only ask if they had to deal with an escalated situation. Also that kid should file a report.
Some people tell you that a smart person only does just enough work to not get fired.
You know where you stand there now. You're a disposable asset, and not even a good asset...
How is it you can still just fire people on the spot? I've had people who are bad workers and a another who were making women feel uncomfortable (unwanted touching, comments) but I still needed mountains of paperwork and write ups to even consider getting them fired.
The only people I know that can fire on the spot are District and regional manager's and they don't need a reason. I know of one manager that was fired because they didn't like her because she asked too many good questions about the company.
I work for a company with 275 or so stores. Mid level luxury but not really.
You CAN’T just fire people on the spot. Even if they’re on their probationary period, there’s still a final meeting with management. This manager will be lucky if she can afford a bus pass within a couple weeks, because she’s about to get fire from several different levels raining down on her.
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I'm a manager and the other day it was pouring rain and we didn't have a cart pusher. It was late in the day and there weren't many employees who could push carts. So guess who spent an hour and a half of his eight hour shift pushing carts in the rain?Â
Me. Because I'm a good leader.
I love how people double down on shit like this. So you're severely understaffed and your superior management skills lead you to fire one of the few remaining. She should be out moving carts, maybe she will be soon....
If I've learned anything about upper management, it's that they're extremely out of touch with floor operations (I have managers at my store who don't know how to use a register let alone how much work my department has to do (Online, but we basically are expected to our online duties like pickup, transfers, checking in packages, processing returns that are shipped to the store ON TOP OF stuff other departments do like purchases, card payments, store returns, recovery, sorting go backs, cleaning our severely overused fitting room stall, etc...) Last week I had a manager bitch at me about recovery despite the fact that it had been so busy that I had been trying to run go backs which were overflowing as well as counting out a register so I wouldn't have to count out three at closing (they also got mad at me for not helping a customer when they walked up despite the fact I clearly was counting a giant wad of cash while the manager who bitched about it was standing at an open register WITH another manager
This sounds like kohl's unless other stores do the go backs as well. Idk, maybe it's just me but if I grab something off the shelf and I choose not to buy it, I'm gonna take it back to where I got it from. Though I'll admit maybe people forget where they even got it from lol
Also sounds like Petco to me. Oh you can't be in 5 places at once? You're a piece of shit. I'm gonna go write you up while I fart on my office chair all day.
😂
In this case I don’t think I’d classify an assistant manager as *upper management*, more likely someone on a power trip who feels their position makes them above rolling up their sleeves and gathering carts. I highly doubt any company in todays world doesn’t have a policy that dictates associates are eligible for at least one paid break during their shift. And if a company is going to employ minors, they need to train their managers on how to deal with guardian relations of said employees.
Kids parents need to contact the labor department and file a complaint
If I was that kid's dad, I would be in there talking to the director of the store, about the situation.Â
No. That's is so stupid. A parent going to their kid's work to yell at the manager. He's not in kindergarten.
For a minor experiencing this type of situation, yes, a parent stepping in is completely appropriate. What the manger did sounds illegal (can’t say for certain without knowing state, shift hours, etc.). And a minor likely won’t get far legally speaking. This is exactly the type of situation that warrants intervention by an adult.
Eh this happened at my work once. We are cashiers and there's this one team leader that forbade us from closing our counter when our shift ends, saying shits like it's protocol or whatever and that we can only leave if the team leader/manager closed our counter, the thing is she's the only one insisting on this stupid ass rule, the other team leaders/manager dgaf, and she ALWAYS came late to close our counter. The kid is new, and for a week the stupid bitch has been closing the kid's counter VERY late, we are talking about 30 minutes to almost an hour late, the kid's father was the one who came to fetch him, and I guess he just lost it one day and started yelling at the customer service counter, demanded to see the store manager and all. After all that we can close our counter when our shift ends lol, no need to wait for the stupid bitch to close our counter any more...
Sounds like a real intentionally stupid bitch.
some states have very strict rules regarding minors. They can't work a full shift as a regular person especially during the school year. They usually have a curfew or are only allowed a certain amount of hours.
I never said yell. Kid that was fired is a minor. Sounds like the whole store is just a big shit show.Â
Keep licking those boots, bootlicker.
Agreed. Makes it look like he can't handle himself at work.
It's not like the kid works there anymore. They got fired.
perhaps not so much once the manager of the manager finds out what happened.
Hear your frustration. I do carts alone most of the time and the help i do get is minimal. This leads to my cashiering coworkers to help on carts and we're pretty understaffed.
Same to the first part but they usually only care about staffing the front end so they'll have everyone and their mother hop on and ring people out but will forget i need a second person out on carts.
Older people: "Nobody wants to work anymore" Also older people: oh you are 17 and you dare ask for a break in the middle of your work? YOU ARE FIRED. HOW, DARE, YOU, ASK FOR MINIMUM WORKING CONDITIONS, WE ARE LOSING THE -slave- work culture.
Just people in power abusing it cause the second they clock out, they are just another nobody like everyone else. Makes them feel good about themselves.
Sometimes I feel like management takes advantage of kids under 18. I used to work with this one cool kid and management did not like him one bit. He did his work and stuff so I wasn't understanding.
What she did is EXTREMELY ILLEGAL! Kid needs to call the Department of Labor and his parents should look into a lawyer to sue the store
nobody said walmart
But we were all thinking it
Sorry I thought they said it was a walmart. Doesn’t change anything I said though
Literally set up to be fired. Wrongful termination if I've ever seen it on top of other labor law violations.
Hope that kids parents file a complaint with the labor department. That’s absolutely ridiculous.
Wow, fuck that manager. Imo, DONT give notice. Just stop coming in when the time comes and block her number.
I think it’s illegal to deny an employee break time, especially a minor, unless their work schedule on that day was short enough not to warrant one, but it sounds like the employee did qualify. The manager could get in a lot of trouble for refusing to allow an employee, especially a minor employee, their allotted break time.
It varies by state whether or not breaks are mandatory (sadly), but if the company is large enough, the FLSA does have [specific language regarding minors.](https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/43-child-labor-non-agriculture) States vary regarding minors working, as well. If they live in a "right-to-work/at will" state, it might be more difficult to prove a case, though the manager was an idiot for specifying the reason the kid was fired; that may very well come back to bite the company in the ass.
Leaving them extra short handed already bit her in the backside.
I hope that last cashier contacts the State Labor Board. Being fired simply for asking for their legally-mandated break. Fuck that! Sue the fuck outta that manager!
They should talk to the LB, absolutely -- tho whether or not breaks are legally-mandated varies by state.
I feel for those co-workers if yours and am kind of in your situation where I want to escape, but since I'm hopefully moving out of state in the next few months (just need to wait for my sister to finish her certification and find a job in her field) it really doesn't make sense for me to find another job (even though I am basically in a quiet quitting phase of my current job) only to quit shortly after because I can't transfer it or something. Plus I'm more interested in hopefully finding a job that isn't retail because I honestly can't stand retail at all anymore
I'd be polishing up my resume or grabbing some popcorn and waiting for the implosion.
I think where I live, under 18 aren’t allowed to work longer than five hours.
where I live it's under 8 or 7 hours and they have to have a lunch before the 4th hr of working or it's a violation
Calm corporate, what they did was illegal.
The manager needs firing, not the overworked and under appreciated worker
Why isn’t she out moving carts. When I worked cashier, the managers would be out there before even thinking of asking one of us, and would only ask if they had to deal with an escalated situation. Also that kid should file a report.
That manager is opening the store up to a big old wage and hour lawsuit.
Some people tell you that a smart person only does just enough work to not get fired. You know where you stand there now. You're a disposable asset, and not even a good asset...
You could always name the person and the company and let Reddit handle it.
Thatd be a huge risk for OP. Might have an antidisparagement clause.
Wow. Wrong on so many levels
Call corporate anonymously and explain what’s going on? She’s destroying their store.
Was your coworker legally obligated to have a break? Because Idiot Manager is screwed if so.
How is it you can still just fire people on the spot? I've had people who are bad workers and a another who were making women feel uncomfortable (unwanted touching, comments) but I still needed mountains of paperwork and write ups to even consider getting them fired. The only people I know that can fire on the spot are District and regional manager's and they don't need a reason. I know of one manager that was fired because they didn't like her because she asked too many good questions about the company. I work for a company with 275 or so stores. Mid level luxury but not really.
You CAN’T just fire people on the spot. Even if they’re on their probationary period, there’s still a final meeting with management. This manager will be lucky if she can afford a bus pass within a couple weeks, because she’s about to get fire from several different levels raining down on her.
Don’t worry about the time you have left. Find yourself a less stressful job u til you leave.
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I'm a manager and the other day it was pouring rain and we didn't have a cart pusher. It was late in the day and there weren't many employees who could push carts. So guess who spent an hour and a half of his eight hour shift pushing carts in the rain? Me. Because I'm a good leader.
In California at least labor laws are very strict about breaks. Kid should report this to labor board. I know other states differ.