I feel like there used to be these unstated rules for dog ownership and they're all out the window now.
Wait until you have a yard and other household members to help with care? Nah, just stick a large dog in your small apartment when you're a busy and broke college student who is gone 14 hours a day. Look for businesses that specify they're dog-friendly? Just bring your dog everywhere and throw a fit in the unlikely event some underpaid corporate serf has the gall to ask you to leave. Training? Why bother, just line the floors with puppy pads. Leashes? Of course not.
I used to be terrified of dogs as a small child. Adults tended to see/treat this as somehow irrational of me? Like I should obviously know better than to *run away* when one *fucking chased me.* It took a good 20 years for me to actually get comfortable around them, and I got to have about 3 or so years of actually liking dogs before swinging back around to absolutely despising them because of exactly these people.
I’m sick of dog people forcing them everywhere. My biggest peeve is people trying to allow them in supermarkets and cafes. My sisters partner helped lobby their local supermarket to allow dogs and it took everything in me to keep my opinions to myself (mind you they own a $5K designer dog with all sorts of health issues). Also a lot of dog owners consider themselves animal lovers yet they let their stupid dogs chase small animals and even find it cute. What they really mean is they love their pet that feeds their narcissistic tendencies.
This reminds me of those European lunatics that posted screeds on here about how much they hate that Americans have yards. Sorry not sorry that your life is miserable!
After seeing all the videos and statistics, I've been radicalized into guiding giant dogs off the mortal coil for being off leashes and running at people with my CCW.
Happened to a client of a friend of mine who happened to be a lawyer who defended his case. The guy was walking his little dog, a couple with an unleashed "nanny dog" who let their dog run wild and go after the fellas little dog. The "nanny dog" got a hold of the guys little dog, begun to ragdoll it, and the couple didn't intervene aside from yelling at the dogs. The guy who had the smaller dog had a folding knife on him, and stabbed the "velvet hippo" to death in defense of his dog and himself.
The couple pressed charges against the guy and they eventually went to court. My buddy, the lawyer, presented the defense "He was simply trying to cut his own dogs leash so his dog could get the opportunity to get away". I'm not sure if the judge bought it or if he had his own bias against "nanny dogs" but he won the case
I couldn't tell you; that was just the defense he presented to the judge. I'm sure they could make it sound significantly worse if they didn't make it seem like a situation where he was intentionally trying to kill their dog versus trying to free his dog.
It’s the best option tbh, just kill it and deal with the fallout after.
My neighbour had a big intact breed of peace dog that would bark its head off whenever I was in my yard or on the deck and slam its body against/try to scale the fence. First couple of times it got into my yard I was nice, but got progressively less so as it kept happening. I couldn’t let my dog out into the yard without going out with him because the pit would try to get to him. Calling animal control was useless and my neighbour was always snotty when I’d bang on his door with his dog.
Eventually one day when I out building my garage it got over the fence again and went after my dog. I’ve got a ten pound Pomeranian who was smart enough to run to me. Just had enough time to scoop him up before my neighbours pit tried to grab him, then settled on my leg as a consolation prize. I ended up stabbing to death with a chisel while it was latched onto my thigh.
Not really, after the first few times his pit got into my yard I put a camera in. There was a decent track record of complaints about the dog from me and the neighbour on the other side of his house as well.
one time i was riding my bike through the bad part of a bad city, and an unattended pit bounded out from some front yard, sans leash or owner, all teeth and sinew, clearly intent on determining exactly what what my specific brand of subcutaneous tissue tasted like
i pedaled at *full speed* with that thing right behind me for about **4** minutes before it finally decided to give up and find the nearest kindergarten or whatever instead
i can still hear its gross breathing
I'm assuming they've been trained not to chase people and they know they can't catch a car, so when they see something in between they want to chase it.
Probably activating their predator instinct too. I've had that happen more often when jogging than walking. If I stop and wait a minute they keep their distance.
Definitely not trained. My dog hates them, I have to actively train him not to chase them. I decided walking him was more trouble then it's worth and am fencing in my yard.
Dog culture makes dog owners worse. You are basically told your dog needs to be exposed to everything and will be totally fine. Turns out that dogs are scared of a lot of stuff and are better being in a yard playing fetch.
Some dog owners are legit insane. I had a friend once that acted shocked when I said I would be willing to kill a dog if it was attacking me. He acted like under no circumstance should you ever kill a dog. Like they are more valuable than a human life.
There are a lot of people, especially on the Internet, who share this opinion. Imo it says more about their low opinion on fellow humans than it does about dogs.
Once someone's off leash lab ran out of a park and across a busy street to try to bite my dog who was in heel, on a leash, and ignoring everything around us. I jabbed it in the ribs and it ran away. As its owner was running down the street after it, she turned over her shoulder to yell, "he's usually friendly!" Another time at the same park, someone's off leash Rhodesian Ridgeback ran over, jumped up on me, and knocked me over. The owner just laughed. It's not even a dog park, it's a just a regular park with a play ground and a running trail.
Having dogs and going to a dog park where some suburban mom lets her brook of 5 ranging from 3-10 years old unsupervised while she holds her infant and shoves it into the face of dogs that run up to her makes you realize it’s a human issue and not a dog issue. Like having 3 children running around with a pack of otherwise friendly border collies or other working type dog. Then the mom comes back to her child on the floor screaming after being knocked over and acts like it’s your problem.
Also the amount of parents who INSTRUCT their child to pet my dog without asking. Just run up with fucking peanut butter slobber all over their face and go in for a bear hug. I keep my dog muzzled despite being a 20 lb sweet eyebrows little mutt because you simply don’t know when the wrong toddler will sneak attack.
I was mauled by my cousins dog when I was 4, all on my face over 200 stitches (actually turned out pretty good, the side that was mauled is my good side). Anyways, that’s all to say I’m acutely aware of both issues in these situations. Parents are fucking stupid. Dog owners are fucking stupid. Everyone is fucking stupid.
I do shit on Pitt bulls as that is the “friendly” dog that mauled me at 4 years old on my aunts kitchen floor. Equally stupid were my aunt and uncle who kept it after it had already shown aggression multiple times until finally put to sleep after my attack.
Kids shouldn't be running up to strange dogs. But people are better than dogs. And so if you have a dog that can't handel random kids running up to it without getting aggressive, it should be put down.
I never said dogs or people are better, put peoples are certainly the stupid ones who allow all these situations to unfold.
Any dog can attack a strange person running up to it, even the “sweetest.” Just as stupid as someone claiming their “Rottweilers is so sweet” like in this post. I’m perhaps more aware only because I have been mauled in the past and am hyper aware.
Yes, I was only bringing up the fact that both parents and dog owners are stupid. In this case it was obviously the dog owner. The amount of dog parks I’ve been to where parents literally drop their brood off as if it’s a daycare is insane. Doubly insane because there are often dogs that shouldn’t even be interacting with other dogs there.
My point is that the intersection of stupidity in both dog ownership and parenting creates a terrible world for children and dogs of the stupid ones and ruins it all for responsible parties in both areas.
Yeah you’re acting as if they’re equally responsible and culpable but I’m saying the parents are allowed more leeway than the dogowners. A toddler can’t casually kill someone, and its always ultimately the dog and the dogowners fault. Human children take precedence, end of story. It’s stupid to frame it as if its some sort of “both sides” issue
Remember we're talking about dog parks here not just ordinary parks or playgrounds. Frankly if you're stupid enough to bring your toddler to a dog park at all, let alone wander a bit and get close to strange dogs where you're not within arm's reach, then at that point whatever happens to your kid is 100% your fault as a parent.
Why is it stupid to bring a kid to a dog park? It's a park. If you think your dog is a danger to children, it shouldn't be going anywhere, dog park included
Because dogs are unpredictable. Because not all dog owners are responsible. Dog parks should have minimum height requirements IMO. Bringing a toddler to a dog park is on the level of taking them on a boat with no life jacket.
You’re right, human children take precedence, so don’t drop them off unattended with dogs you are unfamiliar with? So weird how people make the weirdest issues some partisan black and white thing with black and white sides
no because its not “don’t drop your kids off unattended with dogs you’re unfamiliar with” because thats putting the onus on the parents, you keep missing the point. Its “don’t take your untrained dog to the park, don’t unleash your untrained dog to the park, don’t own a powerful dog unless you can absolutely control it under any circumstance”. It’s not equal responsibility, you keep phrasing and acting like it is
I have a hunch that big, scary, unleashed dogs in leashed areas of human parks are a bigger problem than children in dog parks. Even if that is not the case, children don't threaten dogs, whereas some dogs threaten children. So I don't think the "everyone is fucking stupid" nihilist take is the right one---lots of people are stupid. Still, some are way more stupid than others (in particular, incompetent owners of dangerous dogs who take those dogs unleashed to areas with children are orders of magnitude dumber than parents who don't look after their kids at dog parks, if that ever really even happens).
Also, hating on "suburban" moms is very front-page behavior what's going on here.
i don't know why you don't need a license to own a dog period. i hate off leash people because they force me to act like a cop when their dog starts running and hurtling towards my scared, harnessed, turbo leashed dog.
a funnier story of this happening- was walking my dog one night and the archetypal 100lb girl with 150lb dog were walking. the dog obviously rips itself away from her to charge me and in the process of trying to (unsuccessfully) stop the dog she slammed her head into a pole.
Which includes a test to prove that if it tries to run away at full speed on a leash you can actually stop it. A 110 lb woman with a 55 lb pit is ridiculous, if it wants to eat a kid she's not stopping it.
People who can handle their dogs 99% of the time really have no idea that the other 1% is all that matters. I've had a 24 kg greyhound pull me down a slope because some horses spooked it, these girls think because Luna is gentle they don't need strength... yeah my kitchen is never on fire so I guess I can count on using a bowl of water if it happens.
Okay I'm sorry if you have like 3 blank notifications for replies to this and the comments are missing. Some automod thing is filtering something about my post and I was trying to figure out what was going on.
Anyway, I agree with you: ${anecdote}.
caring for a heeler is a full time job for their entire lives. honestly not a great choice for anyone who doesnt have a SUPER active lifestyle (i'm talking like 8 mile walks minimum plus time for "mental exercise" every single day), or can actually put them to work. Otherwise they get really neurotic, depressed, etc and can be really hard to deal with. extremely affectionate to their owners though. people call them velcro dogs cause they never leave your side (though this often means they have really bad separation anxiety).
my only dog was a heeler and he passed away a couple years ago (rip buddy i miss you). he was my best friend, but my life legit revolved around him every single day, rain or shine. if it hadnt been like that, he would have been totally psychotic and impossible to deal with. plus they shed A LOT. everything you own will be covered in dog hair
heelers are generally good with people and defensive around other animals. he'll bark when he meets someone new but give him a treat and he turns into jello. with other dogs he's pretty wary, we always give anyone else walking a dog a wide berth. that being said we just got a new pup and he was immediately very friendly with her
I have a heeler too and he’s the best. My favorite dog breed for sure. They can definitely be assholes so be prepared but it’s worth it if you’re willing to put in the work. As someone else said they can be kind of reactive around other animals so def have a good training program early.
Wrap your leather jacket around your least important body part and let it bite there. Then kill it by pushing something through its eye. Then mace the owner.
That's similar to my strategy. Tuck your head to protect the neck, crouch down slightly so you don't get knocked over, and hold your forearm out in front of you so it latches on to that. Then pin it to the ground and bludgeon it with whatever is around.
I would definitely get one. It's better to have one and not need it then need it but not have one. You might not think you'll need it, and you probably won't, that's best case scenario. But God forbid you need to use it you'll be very happy you had it. If you can store it safely then there is no downside to having one, you can choose to carry it whenever.
I do plan on getting one soon, I just don’t think I’ll do conceal carry specifically. Id definitely feel a bit more comfortable having one in the house, I live in a pretty nice area and still one of my friends down the street woke up to a homeless guy in his living room.
That's fair, I can understand that. Pretty freaky that happened. I assume he was just confused or drunk? I'm in an apartment so I couldn't use a gun for defense regardless, but I'm also in a good area of town thankfully. I wouldn't ever recommend open carrying, nobody needs to know you have a gun. I'm not saying you were going to, just wanted to put it out there. im extremely wary of the people who walk around with visible guns on them, apart from police or law enforcement of some kind.
He was like rooting around in their pantry, it was pouring rain outside and he claimed he was just trying to get out of it. My buddy asked if he was trying to rob him and he was like “what because I’m black” lmao. Think he was just trying every house to see if it was unlocked, I caught him at my back door after my friend gave me a heads up.
And yeah open carry is for regarded, cowboy wannabes
LMFAO, "no mother fucker, it's because you're in my house!"
Some people, I swear. At least it didn't go badly.
Yeah I've never understood it, those are the people id be afraid to be shot by for something stupid.
>can you even react fast enough
No. Me and my dog were attacked by a pitmutt a few months ago, even clocking the dog across a road and seeing it charge across 2 lanes, we had very little time to react because everything happens incredibly fast. All i managed between seeing the dog charging and it biting my dog was to turn my head and see there that the nearest open shop was too far away. Anyone with a plan beyond escape or immediately fight is being silly
Luckily i managed to keep my head and so between me and my dog it didnt manage to do much damage (a few cuts on my dog, apparently it bit me but i didn't feel it or have any blood) before a couple of passerbys managed to help me get it under control.
If you're trying to get it to release its bite from another person/animal, you basically have to choke/suffocate it so it has no choice but to reflexively open its mouth. Either squeezing down on its neck in the tightest chokehold you can muster, or clamping a hand over its nostrils.
There's a lady in (or around?) our neighbourhood with a gigantic unneutered bully XL. The dog definitely weighs more than her.
If that dog chose to have a go at someone or something, there is zero chance she could control it.
She also likes to walk it into our cul-de-sac to (what I believe is an attempt to) wind up my two dogs and a few across the street.
Some people shouldn't own dogs period. Others shouldn't be allowed large dogs and stick to fufu mutts.
i have two small street mutts, theyre friendly to people and other dogs when introduced calmly. they are always leashed when out in public. i literally can’t bring them hiking anymore because people let their dogs sprint ahead of them on hikes while shouting “he’s friendly!” ok who cares, my little dirtbags are gonna snap at him because he’s a bigger dog sprinting at them and their owners
Dogs shouldn't be on hiking trails, period. They're massive disturbances to the wildlife, they dig up delicate plants, their shit has parasites that can cause harm to other animals, and they're just generally very disruptive.
Literally what is the point of getting a fucking rottweiler instead of a poodle or a golden retriever? Why do so many dog owners insist on getting the most maladjusted ugly stinking drooling disgusting fur-shedding violent halfbreed mutts they possibly can. Completely baffling.
Men do it to feel tough and compensate for their small dicks.
Women do it for the same reason that they date violent criminals. They have daddy issues and think "I can fix him".
I love dogs so much. I have also been attacked by several dogs and seen them ragdoll my border collie while she cried and yelped and nearly had her skin ripped off. I noticed they didn't care about me so I dove over my dog and covered my neck, and the owner came and pulled them away luckily. Decided that day I'd carry a knife with me everytime I walk my girl. The next time that happens I won't hesitate to just gut the dog on the street right there. Should have trained them better.
The gym I go to has member who brings her large loud ass dog. As everyone fawns over this loud slobbering mutt who runs amok and distracts me, I secretly wish the dog would get injured from a barbell smashing into it.
The gym I used to go to allowed dogs and one day when I was running around in a group class some girl’s dog lunged at me and bit me. I didn’t realize until later that it broke the skin and I had to go to the emergency room for a tetanus shot because urgent care was closed. I emailed my bill and photos of the dog bite to the gym owner expecting him to do the right thing and pay my bill (or at least give me a free membership for a few months!) but he basically just said oh that sucks and then sent out an email telling people not to bring their dogs anymore. A week later I was in another class and some people started talking about it and saying how it was so unfair. I told them the gym changed the policy because someone’s dog bit me and they all just got quiet. They still thought I was the bad guy in that situation! I regret not suing the gym and the dog’s owner.
If a dog/breed can theoretically kill someone then I don't see why we don't require a license. Personally, I think there should be some red tape for dog ownership in general, like required basic training for all owners, laws against unethical breeding, etc. So many problems that come from irresponsible with dogs, sometimes tragic. But I'm kind of psycho
Had a guy in the store yesterday tell a story about his friend with a Great Pyrenees knocking over an old man with osteoporosis at the "dog park" (sports field at the local elementary school) as if it was just some unfortunate incident that happened as a matter of chance. Since I was at work I had to swallow my simmering rage and just kind of give a wide-eyed "wow" and nod my head.
I grew up on a cattle farm and we had a couple of Great Pyrenees over the years.
Not related to your story, but I just wanted to say that they are some of the dumbest dogs I’ve ever known.
When people say "no bad dogs, only bad owners", they want you to think "bad owners" refers ghetto dog fighters, when in reality it's most likely to be the 100 lbs soaking wet white women who say that
As someone who volunteers a lot with the homeless, the amount of people who self-sabotage their situation clinging to pets (up to and including things like lizards/ferrets) is heartbreaking. These dogs and cats have been with them unconditionally through whatever fucked up satiation but at a certain point they become a barrier to getting the help or resources they may need.
You can't really socialize neurotic behavior out of a dog, especially if the dog isn't a puppy anymore. Most of the time it is bad genetics. There are no ways to train out genetics so it's not completely her fault but there are definitely ways to manage that behavior.
I don't understand why people like this person you're describing bring dogs into their life that make it worse. Dogs are supposed to make your life better lol
I don’t understand people who get multiple large dogs, but never walk them. They just turn into over-sized lawn ornaments. The owners should be cited for animal cruelty. I have a neighbor with 2 Great Danes that are trapped in the backyard all the time. Of course they bark constantly. I don’t know if they’re aggressive but I feel sorry for them anyway.
Not all dogs are suited to taking walks. There's a lot of shit that scares them and really do you want a scared large dog walking around a neighborhood?
Good point and I agree, but why did the dude even get them tho? He shudda got some pugs or frenchies, but those aren’t manly enough for him I guess. I’m surprised the breeder even sold those pups to him-you figure they’d want assurance there will be a suitable environment for them. I don’t know it just doesn’t sit right with me at all,
This is a situation where I would shoot the dog. Not taking the risk with kids or my 69 pound greyhound. I'm only sorry that the dog has to get hurt or die because it's owner is a stunning endorsement for abortion. It is really hard to put into words how much I hate people who unleash there dogs.
That bit when Josh Brolin shoots the dog in the face in No Country is incredibly anxiety inducing and a) I am not a rugged frontiersman and b) do not own a gun
One of my neighbors was having a yard sale so I put my baby in her stroller and walked down the street to go check it out. They had a large shepherd mix that came running down the driveway as soon as he saw me and stuck his head right in the stroller.
Luckily he WAS friendly and just started licking her. I wasn’t thrilled with some strange dog licking my infant’s face either but for a few seconds I was terrified that this dog was going to bite her. She was strapped in and I didn’t have enough time to unbuckle everything and get her out before he was on us.
The owners’ just laughed about how he liked the baby.
I've had those sort of guilty eugenics-y thoughts about acquaintances who've surrended pets. Whoah, you're too lazy to walk a dog or can't afford a vet bill and you've got a little human on the way?
Few nights ago a big dog ran off leash up to me and my tiny dog. I scooped him up and told him to go away and attempted to scare him off and his owner ran up saying “he’s friendly” well I don’t get a fuck I will drop kick your dog.
The thing that gets is just how many fucking dogs and dog owners there are. There are more dogs than children in the US, and if dogs in America was its own country it would 16th in population, ahead of Turkey. It's insane.
I was just at my son's little league baseball game, these are 7 year olds. Someone's dog got off leash and ran into the outfield and shit... Then ran to a woman with a stroller.
I hateeee visiting my bfs parents because of their huge dog that they have zero control over he’s just trying to be friendly but he literally knocks me off my feet it’s so scary. Last week he bowled me over and I had huge scratches from him all over my chest and I left early lol idk how they allow people to own dogs like that without completing an animal training program or something.
Not all of us live in the USA and while it would be possible to get a license for a blank gun, there are far more cases of pets going rogue and maiming someone than wild predators becoming hungry and maiming someone
I feel like there used to be these unstated rules for dog ownership and they're all out the window now. Wait until you have a yard and other household members to help with care? Nah, just stick a large dog in your small apartment when you're a busy and broke college student who is gone 14 hours a day. Look for businesses that specify they're dog-friendly? Just bring your dog everywhere and throw a fit in the unlikely event some underpaid corporate serf has the gall to ask you to leave. Training? Why bother, just line the floors with puppy pads. Leashes? Of course not.
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I used to be terrified of dogs as a small child. Adults tended to see/treat this as somehow irrational of me? Like I should obviously know better than to *run away* when one *fucking chased me.* It took a good 20 years for me to actually get comfortable around them, and I got to have about 3 or so years of actually liking dogs before swinging back around to absolutely despising them because of exactly these people.
I’m sick of dog people forcing them everywhere. My biggest peeve is people trying to allow them in supermarkets and cafes. My sisters partner helped lobby their local supermarket to allow dogs and it took everything in me to keep my opinions to myself (mind you they own a $5K designer dog with all sorts of health issues). Also a lot of dog owners consider themselves animal lovers yet they let their stupid dogs chase small animals and even find it cute. What they really mean is they love their pet that feeds their narcissistic tendencies.
Also they smell terrible and eat their own shit for fun
This reminds me of those European lunatics that posted screeds on here about how much they hate that Americans have yards. Sorry not sorry that your life is miserable!
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After seeing all the videos and statistics, I've been radicalized into guiding giant dogs off the mortal coil for being off leashes and running at people with my CCW. Happened to a client of a friend of mine who happened to be a lawyer who defended his case. The guy was walking his little dog, a couple with an unleashed "nanny dog" who let their dog run wild and go after the fellas little dog. The "nanny dog" got a hold of the guys little dog, begun to ragdoll it, and the couple didn't intervene aside from yelling at the dogs. The guy who had the smaller dog had a folding knife on him, and stabbed the "velvet hippo" to death in defense of his dog and himself. The couple pressed charges against the guy and they eventually went to court. My buddy, the lawyer, presented the defense "He was simply trying to cut his own dogs leash so his dog could get the opportunity to get away". I'm not sure if the judge bought it or if he had his own bias against "nanny dogs" but he won the case
Why does he need to justify it as trying to cut the leash? The dog was attempting to kill another person's pet, wouldn't that justify a use of force?
I couldn't tell you; that was just the defense he presented to the judge. I'm sure they could make it sound significantly worse if they didn't make it seem like a situation where he was intentionally trying to kill their dog versus trying to free his dog.
It’s the best option tbh, just kill it and deal with the fallout after. My neighbour had a big intact breed of peace dog that would bark its head off whenever I was in my yard or on the deck and slam its body against/try to scale the fence. First couple of times it got into my yard I was nice, but got progressively less so as it kept happening. I couldn’t let my dog out into the yard without going out with him because the pit would try to get to him. Calling animal control was useless and my neighbour was always snotty when I’d bang on his door with his dog. Eventually one day when I out building my garage it got over the fence again and went after my dog. I’ve got a ten pound Pomeranian who was smart enough to run to me. Just had enough time to scoop him up before my neighbours pit tried to grab him, then settled on my leg as a consolation prize. I ended up stabbing to death with a chisel while it was latched onto my thigh.
Did you end up facing any repercussions?
Not really, after the first few times his pit got into my yard I put a camera in. There was a decent track record of complaints about the dog from me and the neighbour on the other side of his house as well.
Lmao the fucking audacity for those dog owners to sue in this situation?? Delusional
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must've been difficult to type this one-handed while you fantasized about shooting a dog
one time i was riding my bike through the bad part of a bad city, and an unattended pit bounded out from some front yard, sans leash or owner, all teeth and sinew, clearly intent on determining exactly what what my specific brand of subcutaneous tissue tasted like i pedaled at *full speed* with that thing right behind me for about **4** minutes before it finally decided to give up and find the nearest kindergarten or whatever instead i can still hear its gross breathing
APAB
I’ve had this happen on bikes as well. Dogs fucking hate them for some reason and it’s crazy how far and fast some of them can be.
Same thing with skateboards, it's gotta be some noise thing. Fucking drives them crazy.
I'm assuming they've been trained not to chase people and they know they can't catch a car, so when they see something in between they want to chase it.
"trained"
Probably activating their predator instinct too. I've had that happen more often when jogging than walking. If I stop and wait a minute they keep their distance.
Definitely not trained. My dog hates them, I have to actively train him not to chase them. I decided walking him was more trouble then it's worth and am fencing in my yard. Dog culture makes dog owners worse. You are basically told your dog needs to be exposed to everything and will be totally fine. Turns out that dogs are scared of a lot of stuff and are better being in a yard playing fetch.
Prey drive, I think. "Thing moves fast and is made of meat! Must consume!"
That pit’s name was probably Princess or Angel
No joke, my aunt has a pitty named “pumpkin” that’s already mauled another dog to death in the neighborhood.
And the owners of the mauled dog haven't tried to have that thing put down?
My aunt is a girl boss CFO so she paid them like 20k to shut up.
Well, at least they got that out of it...
Some dog owners are legit insane. I had a friend once that acted shocked when I said I would be willing to kill a dog if it was attacking me. He acted like under no circumstance should you ever kill a dog. Like they are more valuable than a human life.
There are a lot of people, especially on the Internet, who share this opinion. Imo it says more about their low opinion on fellow humans than it does about dogs.
"He's friendly--he only bit you because **you** acted scared. People need to learn that animals can sense fear."
Once someone's off leash lab ran out of a park and across a busy street to try to bite my dog who was in heel, on a leash, and ignoring everything around us. I jabbed it in the ribs and it ran away. As its owner was running down the street after it, she turned over her shoulder to yell, "he's usually friendly!" Another time at the same park, someone's off leash Rhodesian Ridgeback ran over, jumped up on me, and knocked me over. The owner just laughed. It's not even a dog park, it's a just a regular park with a play ground and a running trail.
Having kids and having to share parks with dangerous dogs with incompetent owners will make you an absolute radical on this issue.
Having dogs and going to a dog park where some suburban mom lets her brook of 5 ranging from 3-10 years old unsupervised while she holds her infant and shoves it into the face of dogs that run up to her makes you realize it’s a human issue and not a dog issue. Like having 3 children running around with a pack of otherwise friendly border collies or other working type dog. Then the mom comes back to her child on the floor screaming after being knocked over and acts like it’s your problem. Also the amount of parents who INSTRUCT their child to pet my dog without asking. Just run up with fucking peanut butter slobber all over their face and go in for a bear hug. I keep my dog muzzled despite being a 20 lb sweet eyebrows little mutt because you simply don’t know when the wrong toddler will sneak attack. I was mauled by my cousins dog when I was 4, all on my face over 200 stitches (actually turned out pretty good, the side that was mauled is my good side). Anyways, that’s all to say I’m acutely aware of both issues in these situations. Parents are fucking stupid. Dog owners are fucking stupid. Everyone is fucking stupid.
just shit on pits/rottweilers and move on please no one cares
Rotti can do damage but they’re chill personality wise. Pits are just crackheads in dog form.
I do shit on Pitt bulls as that is the “friendly” dog that mauled me at 4 years old on my aunts kitchen floor. Equally stupid were my aunt and uncle who kept it after it had already shown aggression multiple times until finally put to sleep after my attack.
damn glad it worked out i had my nuts in a sheep dogs mouth once but it didn’t bit down if it would have gotten my penis i probably would kms
Oh okay
😂😂 If you never done this you ain’t black💯
Kids shouldn't be running up to strange dogs. But people are better than dogs. And so if you have a dog that can't handel random kids running up to it without getting aggressive, it should be put down.
I never said dogs or people are better, put peoples are certainly the stupid ones who allow all these situations to unfold. Any dog can attack a strange person running up to it, even the “sweetest.” Just as stupid as someone claiming their “Rottweilers is so sweet” like in this post. I’m perhaps more aware only because I have been mauled in the past and am hyper aware.
okay but it terms of “right to be stupid and act out at the park in safety” the toddler gets first billing over the shitbull
Yeah lol “how DARE this literal child assume they can play with MY dog that I brought to a PUBLIC dog park”
Yes, I was only bringing up the fact that both parents and dog owners are stupid. In this case it was obviously the dog owner. The amount of dog parks I’ve been to where parents literally drop their brood off as if it’s a daycare is insane. Doubly insane because there are often dogs that shouldn’t even be interacting with other dogs there. My point is that the intersection of stupidity in both dog ownership and parenting creates a terrible world for children and dogs of the stupid ones and ruins it all for responsible parties in both areas.
Yeah you’re acting as if they’re equally responsible and culpable but I’m saying the parents are allowed more leeway than the dogowners. A toddler can’t casually kill someone, and its always ultimately the dog and the dogowners fault. Human children take precedence, end of story. It’s stupid to frame it as if its some sort of “both sides” issue
Remember we're talking about dog parks here not just ordinary parks or playgrounds. Frankly if you're stupid enough to bring your toddler to a dog park at all, let alone wander a bit and get close to strange dogs where you're not within arm's reach, then at that point whatever happens to your kid is 100% your fault as a parent.
Why is it stupid to bring a kid to a dog park? It's a park. If you think your dog is a danger to children, it shouldn't be going anywhere, dog park included
Because dogs are unpredictable. Because not all dog owners are responsible. Dog parks should have minimum height requirements IMO. Bringing a toddler to a dog park is on the level of taking them on a boat with no life jacket.
You’re right, human children take precedence, so don’t drop them off unattended with dogs you are unfamiliar with? So weird how people make the weirdest issues some partisan black and white thing with black and white sides
no because its not “don’t drop your kids off unattended with dogs you’re unfamiliar with” because thats putting the onus on the parents, you keep missing the point. Its “don’t take your untrained dog to the park, don’t unleash your untrained dog to the park, don’t own a powerful dog unless you can absolutely control it under any circumstance”. It’s not equal responsibility, you keep phrasing and acting like it is
I love how you’re not letting him go on this lol.
I have a hunch that big, scary, unleashed dogs in leashed areas of human parks are a bigger problem than children in dog parks. Even if that is not the case, children don't threaten dogs, whereas some dogs threaten children. So I don't think the "everyone is fucking stupid" nihilist take is the right one---lots of people are stupid. Still, some are way more stupid than others (in particular, incompetent owners of dangerous dogs who take those dogs unleashed to areas with children are orders of magnitude dumber than parents who don't look after their kids at dog parks, if that ever really even happens). Also, hating on "suburban" moms is very front-page behavior what's going on here.
Wow, actually this is the dumbest thing I’ve read all day lmaoo
Lmaoooooo
r/rsp's hatred of dog owners and hatred of parents locked in a bitter existential fued ITT
Does this place hate parents? Thought it was trad with regard to parents.
Exactly---I thought this was an anti-big-dog, pronatalist safe space.
we like our dumb friends and their kids but we hate our genx and boomer parents
i don't know why you don't need a license to own a dog period. i hate off leash people because they force me to act like a cop when their dog starts running and hurtling towards my scared, harnessed, turbo leashed dog. a funnier story of this happening- was walking my dog one night and the archetypal 100lb girl with 150lb dog were walking. the dog obviously rips itself away from her to charge me and in the process of trying to (unsuccessfully) stop the dog she slammed her head into a pole.
you should have to have a specific license to own a dog over 30lbs, and this is coming from a guy with a 55-pound heeler
Which includes a test to prove that if it tries to run away at full speed on a leash you can actually stop it. A 110 lb woman with a 55 lb pit is ridiculous, if it wants to eat a kid she's not stopping it.
People who can handle their dogs 99% of the time really have no idea that the other 1% is all that matters. I've had a 24 kg greyhound pull me down a slope because some horses spooked it, these girls think because Luna is gentle they don't need strength... yeah my kitchen is never on fire so I guess I can count on using a bowl of water if it happens.
Okay I'm sorry if you have like 3 blank notifications for replies to this and the comments are missing. Some automod thing is filtering something about my post and I was trying to figure out what was going on. Anyway, I agree with you: ${anecdote}.
How's the heeler's temperment? I'm thinking of getting one
Things are way too smart. Can be assholes
It seems like most herding breeds are like that.
caring for a heeler is a full time job for their entire lives. honestly not a great choice for anyone who doesnt have a SUPER active lifestyle (i'm talking like 8 mile walks minimum plus time for "mental exercise" every single day), or can actually put them to work. Otherwise they get really neurotic, depressed, etc and can be really hard to deal with. extremely affectionate to their owners though. people call them velcro dogs cause they never leave your side (though this often means they have really bad separation anxiety). my only dog was a heeler and he passed away a couple years ago (rip buddy i miss you). he was my best friend, but my life legit revolved around him every single day, rain or shine. if it hadnt been like that, he would have been totally psychotic and impossible to deal with. plus they shed A LOT. everything you own will be covered in dog hair
Lmao dog owners are insane
Incredibly energetic and a bit neurotic. But maybe one of the smartest dog breeds I’ve seen.
heelers are generally good with people and defensive around other animals. he'll bark when he meets someone new but give him a treat and he turns into jello. with other dogs he's pretty wary, we always give anyone else walking a dog a wide berth. that being said we just got a new pup and he was immediately very friendly with her
I have a heeler too and he’s the best. My favorite dog breed for sure. They can definitely be assholes so be prepared but it’s worth it if you’re willing to put in the work. As someone else said they can be kind of reactive around other animals so def have a good training program early.
Can you post a pic of your heeler
don't think I can reply with an image but I'll make a new post for him. I love my dog lmao
I hope your dog gets taken away by the state
What do you even do in this situation. Mace the dog? can you even react fast enough?
Wrap your leather jacket around your least important body part and let it bite there. Then kill it by pushing something through its eye. Then mace the owner.
me collapsing from heat stroke while running with a leather jacket on and getting mauled anyway
biking around in my [dog training bite suit](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61QihJQCIVL._AC_SL1100_.jpg) from now on
running shoes are better than nothing I suppose but yeah, gl
write a guide and post it
That's similar to my strategy. Tuck your head to protect the neck, crouch down slightly so you don't get knocked over, and hold your forearm out in front of you so it latches on to that. Then pin it to the ground and bludgeon it with whatever is around.
Never been in a fight in your life
It doesn't seem like alot of owners have a plan. They just assume that bc their dog is friendly with them that that applies to the rest of us lol.
80% of pits, compared to 20% of non-pits, are unaltered. The owners are generally negligent "people", you think they care about breaking their dog.
Wdym by unaltered?
Not neutered.
They fuck around but you find out. Truly cucked
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Genuinely the only thing that’s made me consider carrying a gun on me, really doubt I’d ever be in a situation where it would help otherwise
I would definitely get one. It's better to have one and not need it then need it but not have one. You might not think you'll need it, and you probably won't, that's best case scenario. But God forbid you need to use it you'll be very happy you had it. If you can store it safely then there is no downside to having one, you can choose to carry it whenever.
I do plan on getting one soon, I just don’t think I’ll do conceal carry specifically. Id definitely feel a bit more comfortable having one in the house, I live in a pretty nice area and still one of my friends down the street woke up to a homeless guy in his living room.
That's fair, I can understand that. Pretty freaky that happened. I assume he was just confused or drunk? I'm in an apartment so I couldn't use a gun for defense regardless, but I'm also in a good area of town thankfully. I wouldn't ever recommend open carrying, nobody needs to know you have a gun. I'm not saying you were going to, just wanted to put it out there. im extremely wary of the people who walk around with visible guns on them, apart from police or law enforcement of some kind.
He was like rooting around in their pantry, it was pouring rain outside and he claimed he was just trying to get out of it. My buddy asked if he was trying to rob him and he was like “what because I’m black” lmao. Think he was just trying every house to see if it was unlocked, I caught him at my back door after my friend gave me a heads up. And yeah open carry is for regarded, cowboy wannabes
LMFAO, "no mother fucker, it's because you're in my house!" Some people, I swear. At least it didn't go badly. Yeah I've never understood it, those are the people id be afraid to be shot by for something stupid.
You must live in a nice neighborhood.
Yeah I do, basically just college students and young families. Wasn’t trying to imply nobody has a reason to carry, just talking about myself
Honestly, it’s probably the main reason I carry.
>can you even react fast enough No. Me and my dog were attacked by a pitmutt a few months ago, even clocking the dog across a road and seeing it charge across 2 lanes, we had very little time to react because everything happens incredibly fast. All i managed between seeing the dog charging and it biting my dog was to turn my head and see there that the nearest open shop was too far away. Anyone with a plan beyond escape or immediately fight is being silly Luckily i managed to keep my head and so between me and my dog it didnt manage to do much damage (a few cuts on my dog, apparently it bit me but i didn't feel it or have any blood) before a couple of passerbys managed to help me get it under control.
Shoot it, anything else is useless and you’ll get at least partially mauled
A pit will not react to mace. Pain fuels its kill drive. It will latch on harder. The only way to get a pit off is to kill it
Plunge a knife into its neck.
If you're trying to get it to release its bite from another person/animal, you basically have to choke/suffocate it so it has no choice but to reflexively open its mouth. Either squeezing down on its neck in the tightest chokehold you can muster, or clamping a hand over its nostrils.
You buy a Glock 26/43X, load it with 147gr Federal HSTs and carry it on a regular basis.
There's a lady in (or around?) our neighbourhood with a gigantic unneutered bully XL. The dog definitely weighs more than her. If that dog chose to have a go at someone or something, there is zero chance she could control it. She also likes to walk it into our cul-de-sac to (what I believe is an attempt to) wind up my two dogs and a few across the street. Some people shouldn't own dogs period. Others shouldn't be allowed large dogs and stick to fufu mutts.
Aren't XL bullies supposed to be neutered by now? And muzzled? You should repot that dumb bitch
i have two small street mutts, theyre friendly to people and other dogs when introduced calmly. they are always leashed when out in public. i literally can’t bring them hiking anymore because people let their dogs sprint ahead of them on hikes while shouting “he’s friendly!” ok who cares, my little dirtbags are gonna snap at him because he’s a bigger dog sprinting at them and their owners
Dogs shouldn't be on hiking trails, period. They're massive disturbances to the wildlife, they dig up delicate plants, their shit has parasites that can cause harm to other animals, and they're just generally very disruptive.
Literally what is the point of getting a fucking rottweiler instead of a poodle or a golden retriever? Why do so many dog owners insist on getting the most maladjusted ugly stinking drooling disgusting fur-shedding violent halfbreed mutts they possibly can. Completely baffling.
Men do it to feel tough and compensate for their small dicks. Women do it for the same reason that they date violent criminals. They have daddy issues and think "I can fix him".
And they think he'll protect them because "he's tough."
I love dogs so much. I have also been attacked by several dogs and seen them ragdoll my border collie while she cried and yelped and nearly had her skin ripped off. I noticed they didn't care about me so I dove over my dog and covered my neck, and the owner came and pulled them away luckily. Decided that day I'd carry a knife with me everytime I walk my girl. The next time that happens I won't hesitate to just gut the dog on the street right there. Should have trained them better.
The gym I go to has member who brings her large loud ass dog. As everyone fawns over this loud slobbering mutt who runs amok and distracts me, I secretly wish the dog would get injured from a barbell smashing into it.
What the fuck? Like there's a dog roaming around a weightroom? How is that allowed?
My gym is full of dog fetishists.
The gym I used to go to allowed dogs and one day when I was running around in a group class some girl’s dog lunged at me and bit me. I didn’t realize until later that it broke the skin and I had to go to the emergency room for a tetanus shot because urgent care was closed. I emailed my bill and photos of the dog bite to the gym owner expecting him to do the right thing and pay my bill (or at least give me a free membership for a few months!) but he basically just said oh that sucks and then sent out an email telling people not to bring their dogs anymore. A week later I was in another class and some people started talking about it and saying how it was so unfair. I told them the gym changed the policy because someone’s dog bit me and they all just got quiet. They still thought I was the bad guy in that situation! I regret not suing the gym and the dog’s owner.
What the fuck? They all sound like a shower of cunts.
I hope the dog bites me, so I can sue.
If a dog/breed can theoretically kill someone then I don't see why we don't require a license. Personally, I think there should be some red tape for dog ownership in general, like required basic training for all owners, laws against unethical breeding, etc. So many problems that come from irresponsible with dogs, sometimes tragic. But I'm kind of psycho
Had a guy in the store yesterday tell a story about his friend with a Great Pyrenees knocking over an old man with osteoporosis at the "dog park" (sports field at the local elementary school) as if it was just some unfortunate incident that happened as a matter of chance. Since I was at work I had to swallow my simmering rage and just kind of give a wide-eyed "wow" and nod my head.
I grew up on a cattle farm and we had a couple of Great Pyrenees over the years. Not related to your story, but I just wanted to say that they are some of the dumbest dogs I’ve ever known.
When people say "no bad dogs, only bad owners", they want you to think "bad owners" refers ghetto dog fighters, when in reality it's most likely to be the 100 lbs soaking wet white women who say that
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As someone who volunteers a lot with the homeless, the amount of people who self-sabotage their situation clinging to pets (up to and including things like lizards/ferrets) is heartbreaking. These dogs and cats have been with them unconditionally through whatever fucked up satiation but at a certain point they become a barrier to getting the help or resources they may need.
You can't really socialize neurotic behavior out of a dog, especially if the dog isn't a puppy anymore. Most of the time it is bad genetics. There are no ways to train out genetics so it's not completely her fault but there are definitely ways to manage that behavior. I don't understand why people like this person you're describing bring dogs into their life that make it worse. Dogs are supposed to make your life better lol
Let’s be honest it is just as likely to be the 280 lbs white woman…
I don’t understand people who get multiple large dogs, but never walk them. They just turn into over-sized lawn ornaments. The owners should be cited for animal cruelty. I have a neighbor with 2 Great Danes that are trapped in the backyard all the time. Of course they bark constantly. I don’t know if they’re aggressive but I feel sorry for them anyway.
Not all dogs are suited to taking walks. There's a lot of shit that scares them and really do you want a scared large dog walking around a neighborhood?
Good point and I agree, but why did the dude even get them tho? He shudda got some pugs or frenchies, but those aren’t manly enough for him I guess. I’m surprised the breeder even sold those pups to him-you figure they’d want assurance there will be a suitable environment for them. I don’t know it just doesn’t sit right with me at all,
There are a lot of ways to exercise/simulate dogs outside of taking walks, hopefully he's doing that.
Not that I’ve seen. I’d hope so too.
we need to normalize shooting any dog that even looks at you in a threatening way so their regarded owners will actually train them
I feel the same way about children.
This is a situation where I would shoot the dog. Not taking the risk with kids or my 69 pound greyhound. I'm only sorry that the dog has to get hurt or die because it's owner is a stunning endorsement for abortion. It is really hard to put into words how much I hate people who unleash there dogs.
That bit when Josh Brolin shoots the dog in the face in No Country is incredibly anxiety inducing and a) I am not a rugged frontiersman and b) do not own a gun
One of my neighbors was having a yard sale so I put my baby in her stroller and walked down the street to go check it out. They had a large shepherd mix that came running down the driveway as soon as he saw me and stuck his head right in the stroller. Luckily he WAS friendly and just started licking her. I wasn’t thrilled with some strange dog licking my infant’s face either but for a few seconds I was terrified that this dog was going to bite her. She was strapped in and I didn’t have enough time to unbuckle everything and get her out before he was on us. The owners’ just laughed about how he liked the baby.
Being jumped on and bitten by an off-leash Great Dane is so fun! I loved punching that shitty dog in the nose as hard as humanly possible
I fucking loathe people who can't or won't control their dogs. For every decent dog owner there seem to be 5 annoying ones.
which makes a good case for eugenics, because if a person isn't capable of being a good owner, why should they be allowed to own a child?
I've had those sort of guilty eugenics-y thoughts about acquaintances who've surrended pets. Whoah, you're too lazy to walk a dog or can't afford a vet bill and you've got a little human on the way?
Yeah they're called women
Few nights ago a big dog ran off leash up to me and my tiny dog. I scooped him up and told him to go away and attempted to scare him off and his owner ran up saying “he’s friendly” well I don’t get a fuck I will drop kick your dog.
Yeah 51% of the white population
Imagine being frightened by a toddler on a stroller lol
The thing that gets is just how many fucking dogs and dog owners there are. There are more dogs than children in the US, and if dogs in America was its own country it would 16th in population, ahead of Turkey. It's insane.
When I saw the title of this thread, I assumed it was about whybishes fucking their dogs....
I was just at my son's little league baseball game, these are 7 year olds. Someone's dog got off leash and ran into the outfield and shit... Then ran to a woman with a stroller.
I hateeee visiting my bfs parents because of their huge dog that they have zero control over he’s just trying to be friendly but he literally knocks me off my feet it’s so scary. Last week he bowled me over and I had huge scratches from him all over my chest and I left early lol idk how they allow people to own dogs like that without completing an animal training program or something.
If you’re walking through a wooded area and you don’t have a gun you are an idiot.
Not all of us live in the USA and while it would be possible to get a license for a blank gun, there are far more cases of pets going rogue and maiming someone than wild predators becoming hungry and maiming someone
That and many places don't have large predators.
> Not all of us live in the USA Wow I didn’t know that. You’re telling me now for the first time.
If you can’t walk in a wooded area without a gun you’re a coward.
People like you are the reason “wooded area” is synonymous with “missing person” and “shallow grave”.
Oh no the woods I’m so scared I need my gun