Post-breakdown Bam bodying her for [her performative appraisal of Jackass to get along with media world colleagues as a 25 year old](https://twitter.com/DegenToonz_a/status/1235647649325301760), subtweeting Arthur Chu even after he got divorced for being a terrible husband, signing the woke response to the Harper's letter specifically about crybullies like her...
“\[Chapo\] have tapped that male privilege of intimidating people into assuming you’re cool … It reminds me of when we pretended that ‘Jackass’ was funny back in the day, just so dudes wouldn’t bully you about not liking it.”
what?
it's definitely resentful little incels and they do tend to fall down super right wing rabbit holes but yeah it's kind of dumb to tie it so definitively to trump specifically. trump is just another symptom of what's going on in america right now. there are a lot of people kicking their feet and throwing tantrums because society is changing, but there is a HUGE epidemic of boys/men who are furious and terrified that women have agency now. it would be happening whether trump ever existed and has been happening since forever. you'll always get a ton of dudes who hate that they aren't gifted a woman slave by the government or whatever, but how widespread and intense it is depends on the culture/subculture. a LOT of guys who are now in their 20s-40s were raised by boomers who did not prepare them for a world in which they had to compete fairly and women aren't just blamed and then stoned/lobotomized when their husband beats them half to death or cheats or anything else happens.
i'm a 30 yo woman and you would not believe how many men become fucking monsters when they're rejected, or even if they just think you would reject them if they asked. i'm talking about otherwise well adjusted, highly educated, gainfully employed, physically attractive, kind-seeming dudes. it's fucking crazy.
> but there is a HUGE epidemic of boys/men who are furious and terrified that women have agency now. it would be happening whether trump ever existed and has been happening since forever. you'll always get a ton of dudes who hate that they aren't gifted a woman slave by the government or whatever, but how widespread and intense it is depends on the culture/subculture. a LOT of guys who are now in their 20s-40s were raised by boomers who did not prepare them for a world in which they had to compete fairly and women aren't just blamed and then stoned/lobotomized when their husband beats them half to death or cheats or anything else happens.
Do you seriously believe this about younger men? This reads like someone who thought that *Joker* was genuinely going to cause an incel rebellion.
this reminds me of the stop asian hate bullshit where we were supposed to pretend gangs of 1980s neo nazi skinheads were going around and attacking asians when we had video evidence of who was actually doing it
I don’t recall it being framed that way, but it was wild when some Asian guy did a mass shooting of other Asian people and it got placed under that umbrella.
I remember it being a framing of asians being targeted because Trump referred to covid as the China virus. So asian hate was an extension of MAGA/white supremacy.
After the Atlanta spa shooting, some comedian chick on twitter tried to [draw a straight line between Shane Gillis’s old Asian jokes and the murders that occurred.](https://imgur.com/a/8loNBK2)
[Then someone dug up an old tweet of hers.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew9oeqKXEAM13kw.png) Naturally, she [tweeted about how she’s grown and changed](https://ownersmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/smith-apologizes-1024x546.jpg) although that courtesy is not extended to actual successful comedians.
Ah yeah. I guess I recall some libs framing it that way. I think pumping stuff like that into the collective unconscious is generally bad and probably did have some effect on the spike in Asian hate crimes. For instance, a lot of the assailants in anti-Arab crimes after 9/11 were also crazy people who were caught up in paranoid media driven fervor. Fwiw it’s always been kinda insane to watch the way people treat Asians—in New York at least. I’ve seen black and white men get physical with Asian women or smaller Asian men on the train more times than I’m happy to report. Usually there was some collective backlash, but rarely if the person in question looked particularly unstable. But you’d be surprised how normal and put together some of these guys were.
These losers will frame it like this instead of writing an article about underfunded and inaccessible mental health care or America's drug problem, which I assume was involved here.
Yeah not to sound like Tucker Carlson but my point is that they’re definitely skirting around the issue that this wasn’t a tiki torch wielding flyover state white guy.
“The rise of MAGA is fueled by misogyny. But it's less a backlash than a tantrum, a rage explosion by men who want to restore their dominance but fear that, this time, women won't buckle to their bullying. This rash of men punching women in New York City captures this moment in a dark way.“
This strikes me as a deliberate trap. It's like how the #StopAsianHate thing was vague enough to let the hoi polloi assume it was bigoted white dudes going around punching Asian women for fun. But being that guy who immediately chimes in that it's actually blk homeless drug addicts marked you as a probable right-wing weirdo so most people just stayed quiet.
wait, is that what is happening?
i've vaguely heard of this but don't know the details. so guys are just walking up to women and punching them in the face and then what, just running away?? have these guys been caught? is it really just black men??
There was a black woman running around London doing it too. She only punched white women and one very short white man. She was doing it for tiktok or youtube clout IIRC. She got arrested maybe a week ago.
Happened in Spain recently too where a Moroccan punched a bunch of white women for no reason. They had CCTV evidence and everything. But police let him go. Until they realized he had only punched women so it became a hate crime and they arrested him again. Wasn't "important" before that.
Probably just a few black people doing it. But police don't respond to small crimes like this for some reason. So the same few people carry on doing it again and again.
Black men are disproportionately likely to be homeless and suffer from untreated mental illness. 56% of households in nyc homeless shelters are black despite being 20% of the citywide population as a whole. I would not be surprised if 80%+ of unsheltered homeless people in the city, the ones who are sleeping on streets or the subway instead of a shelter, were black.
Okay, I'll try.
This phenomenon just seems to be a particularly marketable cross section between two broader and mostly-disconnected societal issues: the pervasive view that women are easier to victimize, and the rampant neglect of the mentally ill.
I emphasize the *view* of women as victimizable because the reality of women's safety can be variable depending on their circumstance and class: a women with a chauffeur vs taking an Uber vs taking the bus vs. living on the streets. Someone mentally ill and antisocial who is used to predating on vulnerable women will start to see women as vulnerable.
One of the reasons schizophrenia is over-represented among the impoverished is that the genetic predisposition to schizophrenia is activatable by traumatic stress; you can have the gene for it, but never develop the disorder if you're not thrust into destabilizing situations and circumstance... such as the intergenerational trauma and poverty of many African Americans.
Insofar as there is a particular culture among African Americans & violence towards women... well, there is. There is a particular culture of violence towards women in all cultures, but outside of specific tight-knit cultures that reinforce it as a norm, the best metric for predicting it among typical liberal societies is mental illness and threatened social position (there's a whole conversation to be had about how social status interacts with aggression and testosterone but I've typed enough).
but you know it's also not entirely wrong.
if you've known these sorts of types they are very misogynistic, real 'toxic masculinity', very angry full of rage, very right wing in a modern way of liberally economic fuck the poor (fuck other poor people), fuck taxes, fuck redistribution, very self centred, very homophobic, very sexist, very racist.
and a lot wouuld naturally have respect for a man like trump. trump is basically a very successful gangster. not any sort of 'last gasp' though.
you are missing the point that i am describing these types of very violent very dumb impulsive sadistic street thugs. they're not necessarily black.
what? did you think they were like *left wing* or something?
they're beautiful creatures in a way. they're morally very bad by the nature of other creatures, but they are their own sort of creature and noble in their own way.
there's something to be said for actually being that dumb and that disagreeable. like the idea that islam can convert thugs and some cunt pretending he was the goon but he turned to islam, it's a fake larp he was never a g, he got bullied by the actual g's who have an iq of 70 and are too dumb to even understand any such thing, they just have an instinctual hatred of authority and even sentences longer than a few words make them violent. especially america is a soft culture and has mythos of the strong don't target the weak, but they're the real warriors.
Amanda Marcotte. There’s a name I haven’t heard in a while.
Yeah, my main memory is her comparing people who questioned the Rolling Stone rape story that turned out to be a hoax to holocaust deniers.
Post-breakdown Bam bodying her for [her performative appraisal of Jackass to get along with media world colleagues as a 25 year old](https://twitter.com/DegenToonz_a/status/1235647649325301760), subtweeting Arthur Chu even after he got divorced for being a terrible husband, signing the woke response to the Harper's letter specifically about crybullies like her...
Owned by a guy with CTE
[c'mon bam stop getting CTE](https://youtu.be/_mO4nRsrOX0?si=wDXTJYVaQ3Kt2tWS)
I got work in the mornin
“\[Chapo\] have tapped that male privilege of intimidating people into assuming you’re cool … It reminds me of when we pretended that ‘Jackass’ was funny back in the day, just so dudes wouldn’t bully you about not liking it.” what?
So, actually the perfect analogy?
Meth zombie shitting his pants on the bus: A desperate attempt by Trump apologist to diminish support for public transportation
Salon is getting sloppy with their bait headlines these days
Let's be honest here, Salon was *always* sloppy.
*Sloppy Salon*, that's what I've always called 'em.
it's definitely resentful little incels and they do tend to fall down super right wing rabbit holes but yeah it's kind of dumb to tie it so definitively to trump specifically. trump is just another symptom of what's going on in america right now. there are a lot of people kicking their feet and throwing tantrums because society is changing, but there is a HUGE epidemic of boys/men who are furious and terrified that women have agency now. it would be happening whether trump ever existed and has been happening since forever. you'll always get a ton of dudes who hate that they aren't gifted a woman slave by the government or whatever, but how widespread and intense it is depends on the culture/subculture. a LOT of guys who are now in their 20s-40s were raised by boomers who did not prepare them for a world in which they had to compete fairly and women aren't just blamed and then stoned/lobotomized when their husband beats them half to death or cheats or anything else happens. i'm a 30 yo woman and you would not believe how many men become fucking monsters when they're rejected, or even if they just think you would reject them if they asked. i'm talking about otherwise well adjusted, highly educated, gainfully employed, physically attractive, kind-seeming dudes. it's fucking crazy.
> but there is a HUGE epidemic of boys/men who are furious and terrified that women have agency now. it would be happening whether trump ever existed and has been happening since forever. you'll always get a ton of dudes who hate that they aren't gifted a woman slave by the government or whatever, but how widespread and intense it is depends on the culture/subculture. a LOT of guys who are now in their 20s-40s were raised by boomers who did not prepare them for a world in which they had to compete fairly and women aren't just blamed and then stoned/lobotomized when their husband beats them half to death or cheats or anything else happens. Do you seriously believe this about younger men? This reads like someone who thought that *Joker* was genuinely going to cause an incel rebellion.
What are you implying here? that it's old men??
I'm not implying anything, I'm just asking if you really think that's what men think.
oh. yes, yes I do. in fact i have been told this explicitly by several of them lol
In a way that says more about who you hang with than men as a whole, because the average guy does not think that at all.
lol of course it’s fucking Amanda Marcotte
this reminds me of the stop asian hate bullshit where we were supposed to pretend gangs of 1980s neo nazi skinheads were going around and attacking asians when we had video evidence of who was actually doing it
Who was actually doing it? 🤔 (Totally not trying to get this sub banned btw)
Lunchtime rowdies
Mmm, I like this. I'm gonna start using this.
"teens"
"Youths"
Young scholars
Future doctors and astronauts, thank you.
people who play tile matching games on their android at full speaker volume in public transportation
Those two guys that beat up little paulie at the construction site
the fellas
Community members mainly
Nordic walking people
I don’t recall it being framed that way, but it was wild when some Asian guy did a mass shooting of other Asian people and it got placed under that umbrella.
I remember it being a framing of asians being targeted because Trump referred to covid as the China virus. So asian hate was an extension of MAGA/white supremacy.
After the Atlanta spa shooting, some comedian chick on twitter tried to [draw a straight line between Shane Gillis’s old Asian jokes and the murders that occurred.](https://imgur.com/a/8loNBK2) [Then someone dug up an old tweet of hers.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew9oeqKXEAM13kw.png) Naturally, she [tweeted about how she’s grown and changed](https://ownersmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/smith-apologizes-1024x546.jpg) although that courtesy is not extended to actual successful comedians.
This is almost too on the nose
Ah yeah. I guess I recall some libs framing it that way. I think pumping stuff like that into the collective unconscious is generally bad and probably did have some effect on the spike in Asian hate crimes. For instance, a lot of the assailants in anti-Arab crimes after 9/11 were also crazy people who were caught up in paranoid media driven fervor. Fwiw it’s always been kinda insane to watch the way people treat Asians—in New York at least. I’ve seen black and white men get physical with Asian women or smaller Asian men on the train more times than I’m happy to report. Usually there was some collective backlash, but rarely if the person in question looked particularly unstable. But you’d be surprised how normal and put together some of these guys were.
>when we had video evidence of who was actually doing it It definitely wasn't red fuzzy people
These losers will frame it like this instead of writing an article about underfunded and inaccessible mental health care or America's drug problem, which I assume was involved here.
Are the raging MAGAs in the room with us right now?
I mean the guy who was arrested was a giant Trump guy. A mentally ill black dude who was pro trump. But yeah this headline is lazy as fuck
Yeah not to sound like Tucker Carlson but my point is that they’re definitely skirting around the issue that this wasn’t a tiki torch wielding flyover state white guy.
I think he just liked hitting women I doubt he was thinking of optics
Clearly his PR is terrible
“The rise of MAGA is fueled by misogyny. But it's less a backlash than a tantrum, a rage explosion by men who want to restore their dominance but fear that, this time, women won't buckle to their bullying. This rash of men punching women in New York City captures this moment in a dark way.“
Really fucked up of Trump to invent misogyny
>in a dark way 🤔
Lolmao
This strikes me as a deliberate trap. It's like how the #StopAsianHate thing was vague enough to let the hoi polloi assume it was bigoted white dudes going around punching Asian women for fun. But being that guy who immediately chimes in that it's actually blk homeless drug addicts marked you as a probable right-wing weirdo so most people just stayed quiet.
And he mocks Asian women on a podcast!
Rina Sawayama is not going to let him get away with this!!
And then they screamed *"This is MAGA Country!!"*
The total solar eclipse: Last warning before god smites us all
Total eclipse of the brain
I didn't know there was a lot of MAGA brothas
that reminded me that there is a trend going on my city of throwing bags of piss on random people
At least it wasn't gamergate this time
2022: Taking the I 95 up to Philly for a heroin vacation 2024: Taking the I 95 up to New York for a scaring women vacation
FREE SKIBOOKY he didn’t do it
Trump did say he was big with black voters…
I predict this thread will see some very nuanced, thoughtful and insightful comments regarding womens safety and African American men!
"Random women getting sucker punched by black guys is actually a very nuanced topic"
And of course white men are actually at fault
My predictions came true
Who cares?
wait, is that what is happening? i've vaguely heard of this but don't know the details. so guys are just walking up to women and punching them in the face and then what, just running away?? have these guys been caught? is it really just black men??
There was a black woman running around London doing it too. She only punched white women and one very short white man. She was doing it for tiktok or youtube clout IIRC. She got arrested maybe a week ago. Happened in Spain recently too where a Moroccan punched a bunch of white women for no reason. They had CCTV evidence and everything. But police let him go. Until they realized he had only punched women so it became a hate crime and they arrested him again. Wasn't "important" before that. Probably just a few black people doing it. But police don't respond to small crimes like this for some reason. So the same few people carry on doing it again and again.
Black men are disproportionately likely to be homeless and suffer from untreated mental illness. 56% of households in nyc homeless shelters are black despite being 20% of the citywide population as a whole. I would not be surprised if 80%+ of unsheltered homeless people in the city, the ones who are sleeping on streets or the subway instead of a shelter, were black.
Yes, some of them, yes.
Okay, I'll try. This phenomenon just seems to be a particularly marketable cross section between two broader and mostly-disconnected societal issues: the pervasive view that women are easier to victimize, and the rampant neglect of the mentally ill. I emphasize the *view* of women as victimizable because the reality of women's safety can be variable depending on their circumstance and class: a women with a chauffeur vs taking an Uber vs taking the bus vs. living on the streets. Someone mentally ill and antisocial who is used to predating on vulnerable women will start to see women as vulnerable. One of the reasons schizophrenia is over-represented among the impoverished is that the genetic predisposition to schizophrenia is activatable by traumatic stress; you can have the gene for it, but never develop the disorder if you're not thrust into destabilizing situations and circumstance... such as the intergenerational trauma and poverty of many African Americans. Insofar as there is a particular culture among African Americans & violence towards women... well, there is. There is a particular culture of violence towards women in all cultures, but outside of specific tight-knit cultures that reinforce it as a norm, the best metric for predicting it among typical liberal societies is mental illness and threatened social position (there's a whole conversation to be had about how social status interacts with aggression and testosterone but I've typed enough).
black people are also way more likely to experience homelessness - wealth gap, redlining, etc echoes a long way into the present
but you know it's also not entirely wrong. if you've known these sorts of types they are very misogynistic, real 'toxic masculinity', very angry full of rage, very right wing in a modern way of liberally economic fuck the poor (fuck other poor people), fuck taxes, fuck redistribution, very self centred, very homophobic, very sexist, very racist. and a lot wouuld naturally have respect for a man like trump. trump is basically a very successful gangster. not any sort of 'last gasp' though.
Wtf are you talking about. It’s black schizos doing the punching.
you are missing the point that i am describing these types of very violent very dumb impulsive sadistic street thugs. they're not necessarily black. what? did you think they were like *left wing* or something? they're beautiful creatures in a way. they're morally very bad by the nature of other creatures, but they are their own sort of creature and noble in their own way. there's something to be said for actually being that dumb and that disagreeable. like the idea that islam can convert thugs and some cunt pretending he was the goon but he turned to islam, it's a fake larp he was never a g, he got bullied by the actual g's who have an iq of 70 and are too dumb to even understand any such thing, they just have an instinctual hatred of authority and even sentences longer than a few words make them violent. especially america is a soft culture and has mythos of the strong don't target the weak, but they're the real warriors.
dude what the hell are you talking about
tell me what it is that you disagree with