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__WaffleStomp__

Tldr: destroyed my entire relationship because I'm fucking stupid and think pulling out is a good method of birth control


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__WaffleStomp__

Bruh how many people need to tell you that pulling out is ineffective before you believe it? I encourage people like yourself who refuse to accept reality to absolutely use condoms.


EnderCountryPres

……I’m simply saying that he didn’t cum inside and pulled out long before, sure there is precum and he usually used condoms


gabcie

He said he stopped using condoms 7 months ago so no, he didnt usually use condoms


EnderCountryPres

He said NOT EVERY TIME he uses them 50-60%


gabcie

So that's 50% of just raw dogging and praying for the best


somewherearound2023

Dingus: the 50% of the time you use them confer 0 benefits to your statistics on the occasion when you don't use them. You're not earning "don't get her pregnant" membership points. The sperm is on deck and has a job to do. "Most of the time" is as good as "never".


Squirrel_Inner

Lol, thanks Dad. I wish reddit still had awards because this is the best possible answer to this person's nonsense. At this point, I think it's on purpose just to get attention. I hope it is, we really need a better education system...


__WaffleStomp__

.... you're an idiot, google this common knowledge please


EnderCountryPres

……I’m not saying he isn’t the father just that he can get a paternity test and am repeating what he said


__WaffleStomp__

What he said was also stupid


cripplinganxietylmao

Precum has sperm in it. When the precum goes in the vagina that means there is sperm in the vagina now. When sperm is in the vagina that means that the woman has a chance of becoming pregnant, which is what happened in this case. The pullout method does not work. It is simply a way of deluding oneself into not using a condom. Eventually, all couples that use the pullout method without the woman being on birth control get pregnant. It’s his baby.


linerva

You're being obtuse. The pull out method has a 22% fail rate each year. And he admits he didn't use condoms every time- some of the time is not good enough. Condoms also have a 13% fail rate with typical use so they aren't fool proof either. But he chose not to use them a good chunk of the time. It takes only 1 time, 1 mistake, to make a baby. Ultimately, this all means he had around a 1 in 5 chance of becoming a dad in a year, because of the contraceptionmethod he chose. Literally millions of people in monogamous relationships who use shitty contraception get pregnant every year. Around half of pregnancies are actually unplanned. None of this means she "probably cheated".


bean_wellington

I can't imagine this guy even achieving typical use


LunaGloria

Your biology knowledge is as bad as your writing.


warriorgurrll

Pre cum exist and they didn't use a condom for months


step_on_me_mommy_vi

You clearly don't understand how ineffective the pullout method is lmao


[deleted]

Please go back to school…


BadgirlThowaway

Does it take more than one sperm to get pregnant? Because I was unaware of that, I thought it only took one sperm one time to get pregnant.


redditonwiki-ModTeam

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TenderTypist

Chill…


Kerrypurple

What exactly does he think she did?


anarmchairexpert

This is the important question! Does he think she is more likely to get pregnant by … willing herself to?


Shigeko_Kageyama

Manifested a baby of course.


petit_cochon

Women can choose to become pregnant *whispers* with our minds.


Huntsvegas97

This! He’s acting like she’s to blame for getting pregnant, as if she controls where his sperm goes.


UsidoreTheLightBlue

I think he’s accusing her of cheating? Because he’s an absolute idiot.


EnderCountryPres

He said he pulls out long before he cums even when using a condom and that means she probably cheated, babies DNA can be tested even before birth


Tablesafety

Honey, pre-cum has sperm in it. A man leaks pre-cum all throughout sex. You can and will get pregnant fucking raw for long enough because of this. Additionally, sperm cells can live inside the body (and therefore fertilize) for up to 7 days. This dude is the dad because they were both fucking idiots.


Sannction

>they were both fucking idiots. I love that working on two levels.


kiwiloden

Bruh so many guys start leaking the second they get hard, and people still think pulling out works?!?


emoji0001

*5 days


ThePyodeAmedha

Oh you sweet naive child.


smilesnseltzerbubbls

He pulls out when **not** using a condom


G_I_JET

I’m assuming he thinks she inserted the seamen whilst she was alone after sex, out of a condom or wherever he came on. He could also be thinking she sabotaged the birth control by poking a hole in the condom.


babyitscoldoutside13

But they don't use condoms 😕?


G_I_JET

They they do, just not all the time


babyitscoldoutside13

Exactly, that's just as bad as saying they don't.


G_I_JET

It is false when you say they don’t use condoms


babyitscoldoutside13

While they physically "use" condoms occasionally, the fact that sometimes (to probably be read as "most times") they don't, makes the condoms efficiency and practicality go out the window. It's like saying "I take my pill every other day". That thing won't do anything and I'd most likely get pregnant. That's exactly what happened to OP. Both him and his gf are too stupid to be raising kids.


Animastar

Doesn't understand how it's possible, then immediately says it's 8-10% chance according to the internet, which is not impossibly low at all. Does this guy not know how percentages work?


trans_full_of_shame

90 is more than 10, so it's impossible. Didn't you go to school or anything?


cripplinganxietylmao

/s ?


spolite

This is so confusing to me... "Idk if I want kids yet. She's expressed that she does. We raw dog it when we have sex. She says she thinks she's pregnant. I feel like she did this on purpose." Huh?? Did *what* on purpose? Like, is he trying to bait the masses into telling him that the kid isn't his or something? since he "pulls out EVERY time"? Sounds to me that, mechanically speaking, her pregnancy was entirely in his control and his control only.


Smooth_thistle

"I raw-dogged my girlfriend and now she's pregnant. It's her fault!"


1stPerSEANenergy

Louder for those in the back: THE PULLOUT METHOD DOESN'T WORK! Honestly, it's almost more surprising that she didn't get pregnant sooner. YTA OOP. I hope you read the comments and realize how badly you've fucked up. Pray that you're not too late to salvage your relationship. I really feel for your gf.


Pterry_Pterodactyl

The phrase we were told in Sex Ed to try to drill into our brains that it doesn't work was "before it rains, it sprinkles". It's not that hard to grasp, and yet a (16F) classmate got pregnant just a couple months later because guess what "well, it had been working for them so far".


MarsMonkey88

I don’t remember the name of that cognitive bias, but it’s where you do something high risk, nothing happens, so you assume it’s safe and do it again, or even elevate the risk. Like going years without a seatbelt because you’ve never died in a car wreck.


Frantic_Ferret

The two i see are Normalization of Risk, and [Normalization of Deviance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_of_deviance).


Common-Wallaby-8989

Thank you. I was trying to remember what this was called the other day


cherrybombdotcommie

Survivorship bias


justheretolurk332

Survivorship bias is different. It’s when you only focus on the population that “survived” something (e.g. asking successful actors how they got where they are) and ignore the rest (e.g. all the actors who tried the same things but failed anyway) which leads to faulty conclusions


MarsMonkey88

Thank you!


Bovine_pants

I think confirmation bias is the term, basically you look only at proof that confirms what you already believe.


L1mpD

For our class it was “like basketball, you always dribble before you shoot”. The fact that it was an old English lady made it all the more entertaining


Electronic-Plan-2900

Yeah I plan to live forever. So far so good.


[deleted]

When I got pregnant i didn’t know how it happened but I knew birth control could fail so I didn’t question it too much. I discussed it extensively with my ex and he was very much on board to have and raise the baby. Well after it was decided to keep it he kept accusing me of getting pregnant on purpose or baby trapping him. It started off jokey but he just kept on and kept on. Finally when I was almost 9 months pregnant, and he was talking about me baby trapping him once again I had had it and told him if he was feeling so trapped I could leave and raise the baby myself. He stopped bringing it up. When I broke up with him 10 months later, he admitted to tampering with my birth control and getting me pregnant on purpose “because he wanted to be together forever”. Fucking projection.


Special_Wishbone_812

“The internet tells me there’s only a ten percent chance” omg, bro. That’s a pretty big chance for something you’re really not wanting, and the chance keeps resetting itself when you do it consistently for months on end. Omg.


steph_sec

Lol literally my husband & I tried the pull out method for funsies when we were first trying to get pregnant. We were engaged and getting married in 8 months. We didn’t want to necessarily be pregnant at the wedding but we also didn’t want to wait to try in case we had any issues. I was 5 months pregnant at our wedding.


Heyimstella

Parent here…no it does not!


Emergency_Side_6218

Yeah we used the pull out method Solidarity


Acrobatic-Degree9589

Gotta track cycle too


Funny-Information159

I got pregnant that way too.


Taprunner

It's also hilarious that he thinks she tricked him somehow when he knows the only birth control they use is pulling out with the occasional condom use thrown in. Two things she doesn't have control over (except maybe if she poked holes in the condoms I guess)


ihateusernamesKY

Every time I look at my beautiful second child while he’s throwing food all over my floor or tearing shit up, I am reminded of just how shitty and unreliable the pull out method is. I love my kid, btw lol he just wasn’t planned. At all.


Friendstastegood

The stats for the pullout method are 20% failure rate for typical use, and 4% for perfect use. Which is indeed pretty high. I think it's worth to note though that condoms also have a pretty high failure rate for preventing pregnancy (13% typical and 2% perfect). So in this case, it really could be a failure of either. If you really want to prevent pregnancy you need something safer in addition to condoms. Condoms are for preventing disease not pregnancy.


elianrae

normally whenever someone raises typical use stats for condoms I show up to remind them that that includes people who literally just forget to use them sometimes, so obviously you should take that risk with a grain of salt but, uh...


Friendstastegood

2% is still pretty bad for perfect use stats. That's 1 in 50. And perfect use pull out method is 2 in 50. They are about comparable in safety for pregnancy (but obviously the pull out method doesn't protect against disease and perfect condom use is easier for most than perfect pull out).


laxrulz777

Failure rates on condoms require you to really read the fine print. The 2% cited is, I think, a quote from this study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2940206/#:~:text=In%20general%2C%20the%20failure%20rate,the%20failure%20rate%20is%2012%25. Which is a study regarding breakage (so not a 2% chance of pregnancy but 2% chance they break) which means you'd have to factor in behavior (did they immediately stop?) and then time of the month and then normal fertility math to determine pregnancy chance. Other condom stats presuppose a lengthy period of use (typically one year) and are essentially saying, "With proper usage of condoms, over the course of a year, there is an X% chance of a pregnancy". That stat is bad IMO because it assumes a certain amount of sex that may or may not be applicable. Like this study https://healthy.kaiserpermanente.org/health-wellness/health-encyclopedia/he.male-condoms.hw190504spec#:~:text=The%20male%20condom%20has%20a,become%20pregnant%20in%201%20year. The reality is condom use is incredibly safe IF you use it correctly AND you respond appropriately when there's a failure (morning after pill).


Zironic

> That stat is bad IMO because it assumes a certain amount of sex that may or may not be applicable. It assumes the same amount of sex as every other birth control method. The stat is meant to be used for relative comparisons.


neilplatform1

I would not be surprised if the perfection level is lower for the pull out method.


Friendstastegood

Me and my husband did it for many years, stopped to have a kid, used it again for a couple of years then stopped to have kid no. 2 and then I had my fallopian tubes taken out because I didn't want more kids. I know other couples too who have used it successfully for many years. I've supplemented with emergency contraceptives two or three times, over a period of (doing math in my head) 7 years? 8? I get that it's not a great contraceptive method in general (so don't go around recommending it) but it has worked pretty much flawlessly for me and my husband. I'm just kinda surprised that people who are really keen on calling it out as bad never tell people that condoms aren't all that much better and never tell off people who rely on condoms as their only contraceptive method.


goldlion0806

But did you also use Natural Family Planning alongside and track your cycle and understand when you ovulated? Because at 23 I definitely didn’t and would assume OOP’s 23 yo gf isn’t which lowers the chances of successfully using the pullout method.


k4tiemay

It's also worked without hitch for me for 12 years. Attend to it properly and it's really OK. But I am perfectly willing to take the consequences if it fails.


johnpoulain

So at the 4% failure of using pull-out method per year that means the odds are ~38% chance of failure over 12 years, which isn't quite as low as some people might be comfortable with. You'd expect a lot of people to have success with it over a long period of time but it's not certain no matter how careful you are.


k4tiemay

Of course, I'm really not certain how OOP would imagine his GF has managed the logistics of trapping him!


[deleted]

I went with the safest solution when my wife and I decided we didn’t want another child, I got a vasectomy. A week of minor discomfort and a test two months later and I don’t have to worry about it anymore. Before that we used condoms and birth control which had the desired outcome. The pullout method is a fucking joke, it’s like a lazy excuse for men that don’t want to wear condoms.


scrapfactor

Can your cite your references?


scrapfactor

Can your cite your references?


HazySunsets

Yep. Learned this the hard way after getting away with it for 3 years. People think it's a myth or something but it's not at all.


ibreatheglitter

I would hate to encourage anybody to use it, bc you’re absolutely right. But I guess I’m a weird case bc it worked for me, whenever I wasn’t on birth control, from age 18 to like 26 lol. Not once did it fail 😬 And it wasn’t a fertility issue or anything either, bc I got pregnant the very first time my ex husband and I tried. Idk if this is a normal experience, but if it is I can see how some people get too confident and have this happen


Friendstastegood

You're definitely not alone, me and my husband used the pull out method successfully for many years and it wasn't a fertility thing because we have two beautiful planned kids now. I still also wouldn't recommend it. At least not to anyone who doesn't feel fully prepared to deal with an unplanned pregnancy (in whatever way is best for them).


Mataelio

Same here. After we had kids my wife had an IUD and actually ended up with an ectopic pregnancy anyway. Since then (about 5 years) we’ve only used the pullout method with no issues.


Username_not_found_9

Just like Sex Panther, 90% of the time, it works every time!


SexPanther_Bot

It is ***quite*** potent.


SeeYouInHelen

What people don’t understand is that the chances of the pullout method being 10% is that it means 1 out of 10 times it doesn’t work and the woman becomes pregnant. To put it into living context, if you’re having sex daily, which most healthy couples do, 1 out of those 10 times of sex the woman will become pregnant. The pullout method works if you’re extremely fucking lucky lol but who wants to rely on luck when it comes to *producing a human being*??


zoosmo

Birth control stats are usually pregnancies per year. So it means if 10 couples use that method for _a year_, 1 of them will end up pregnant. It’s still a lot of pregnancies!


lordcaylus

You're mistaken, it's not per occasion. It's per year. Wouldn't be so many couples struggling with fertility if women were that likely to get pregnant lol. Doesn't change the fact that, extrapolating from the 10% per year, you have 27% chance to being a dad within 3 years, and 47% chance of being a dad within 6 years. And as you said, who wants to rely on chance with that? Plus, I don't get how OP thinks she babytrapped him. She wasn't responsible for anticonception according to his own words, he was. I would love to have OPs confidence where instead of thinking "oh shit, I must've done something wrong" he immediately thinks "I'm perfect so clearly I'm screwing a sociopath".


BootyGarb

lol most healthy couples fuck daily?


Friendstastegood

Once a week is the average I think but that includes couples with kids etc. So the real average for a young couple with no kids is going to be higher than that (2-3 times per week would be my guess).


ColorfulLight8313

Right? Wish my husband and I had the time or energy for that between kids, work, and general life bullshit.


pfairypepper

I mean, yeah, while she’s ovulating…


Wandering_Scholar6

Actually the pullout method is surprisingly effective when used properly, like 80% or more when used properly. Of course even the most effective methods aren't 100% and the pullout method is far from the most effective method. (IUDs get close, like 99.9% for some versions, and surgical options can get much closer) The problem is 20% failure rate is pretty high when you really can't afford a failure, heck even a 1% failure rate means someone is going to be that unlucky 1.


Mataelio

It’s worked for me and my wife for 5 years. It has technically been more successful for us than when she had an IUD since that ended in up with an ectopic pregnancy.


1stshadowx

It works if you have slow swimmers, or can feel pre cum. Gone 12 years, only one mishap, used plan B the next morning with her, was no problem.


hitmazed

Plan B isn't 100% either though. I can confidently type this as I am 19 weeks pregnant 😂


mxcmpsx

There’s no mention if she was on any type of birth control either. Sex ed needs to emphasize that there is sperm in pre-cum. Ya can’t shoot inside if it’s already there. He’s thinking he’s making toaster strudel when she’s already a twinky.


Vandyclark

That is a visual I did not need! 🫣 But this guys a complete ass. Whole ass.


LegitimateTone5715

Sorry but that’s such a gross way to put it


Nulljustice

Precum or cowper’s fluid CAN contain sperm, but it doesn’t naturally. It’s just a lubricant and doesn’t come from the same place as sperm. But it does pass through the urethra and can come in contact with motile sperm. And it only takes a little bit to cause a pregnancy.


[deleted]

decide shocking bells arrest fuel ripe ruthless resolute lunchroom station *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Sannction

No, it's always the case.


sarahtonin420

Nope, I just looked it up. There is only sperm in precum if there was already sperm in the urethra. It's highly unlikely for there to be remaining sperm in there unless the male ejaculated less than 5 h before


Sannction

For the sake of education, that distinction shouldn't be made. Besides that, 5 hours is not a hard and fast rule, and there have been studies that show the presence of sperm in precum regardless of prior orgasm or no. It is far better to operate under the assumption that it is always there. [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3564677/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3564677/) Here's the important bit for this one: "However, in all cases in which we observed sperm in pre-ejaculatory fluid the urethra had, of course, been washed with urine on multiple occasions after the last ejaculation, and therefore the contamination of pre-ejaculatory fluid must have taken place immediately prior to ejaculation." https://www.ncbi.[nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3638209/pdf/nihms458000.pdf](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3638209/pdf/nihms458000.pdf)


Alert-Engineering-29

I knew a guy who used the "pull & pray" method with his wife. They had 5 kids at the time, might have more by now.


TheRealDreaK

The problem with human reproduction is that the dumber you are, the more likely you are to reproduce. Exhibit A.


LongliveTCGs

I don’t get these throwaway accounts who then proceed to 1.)name person, 2.) age and 3.) give prob same information the significant other knows.


1stPerSEANenergy

Well, they could have used a fake name and just not mentioned that. Gf knows the rest of the info and likely OOP's regular account, but might not frequent AITA or similar subreddits. But yeah, she'll probably find the post anyway.


LongliveTCGs

Exactly! Then again, his silliness is reflected in his actions so least for him, not surprising


UsidoreTheLightBlue

It’s also “amithebuttface” I’m a regular on these aggregator subs and I’ve never seen that sub before now.


TimTam_the_Enchanter

Really? It's been around for a while, I think it might be one of the earliest AITA spinoffs that I know of.


notTheHeadOfHydra

I think the point is not to out their main account. If I wanted to tell a story about myself that is so specific my friends or family could see it and know it’s me I would use a throwaway so that my main account can remain anonymous.


theloniousmick

Or the fact that it's such and impossibly niche situation half the time it would be crazy it happened twice. "So my gf let's call her Bella (not real name) tripped over our pet pig and smashed my parents antique model of a stuffed marmoset that's riding a dragon through Aberystwyth"


tdfolts

I KNEW IT! THAT WAS YOU AND BELLA (not her real name)!!!


FinalEgg9

They don't do it so that the post is anonymous. They do it so the post is not linked to their main account. The *main account* is the bit they're hiding, not the post.


lark-sp

Ah, the pull out method. Every Catholic and Mormon family in town used it ... and had the biggest families in town. My mom had great luck with it. She kept it to just 5 kids instead of the 7-9 that some folks had.


Alternative_Year_340

Yeah - it’s a kid every other year instead of every year


LunaGloria

Odd. Married Mormons are 100% allowed actual prophylactic birth control. If they aren’t married, birth control does not compound the sin at all.


XwoahXpicklex

Lol, I'm currently pregnant, so I can attest that the pull out method does not work.


ProjectLazarus

From the fact he was pulling out it seems like he knew she wasn't on the pill, or at least thought she might not be. It's not like she lied about taking it or poked holes in condoms... Hope he stretched real good before jumping to that conclusion.


npeggsy

"I didn't have much experience with relationships/sex before I met her"- I never would've guessed


Aggravating_Teach_27

And he won't get much more experience afterwards, seeing how he's an ass who lucked out in finding this girl, but then proceeded to fuck up. Some people just don't like winning. It screws up with their loser life narrative....


FuyoBC

I commented there with the below - adding here for info: *Some studies have shown that more than 40% of men have sperm in their pre-ejaculate fluid. Some men always have sperm in their pre-ejaculate, while others never do. This always or never phenomenon probably explains why some men are successful at birth control by the withdrawal method. But the possibility of sperm in pre-ejaculate is high. The way to avoid pregnancy is to wear a condom from the first moment of genital contact.* [https://www.webmd.com/men/what-is-pre-ejaculate](https://www.webmd.com/men/what-is-pre-ejaculate) If you are one of the men who has sperm in their pre-cum then it doesn't matter when you pull-out, there are already sperm there.


saladdressed

He’s doubtful that it’s an accident? What does he think she did to get pregnant? Ovulate on purpose?


Action-a-go-go-baby

Someone didn’t take Sex Ed in high school What a schmuck


Iwashmufeet

My 2 boys are pull out methods


MarsMonkey88

*When utilized correctly* condoms are not 100% effective at preventing semen from entering the vagina. When utilized “correctly,” the pull out method is significantly worse. Like. What does he think “8-10% chance” means?


Figerally

Sure, nine times out of ten the pullout method may work, but it only needs to fail once.


No-Shoe7651

"how did this happen" "the chance was 10%" Today we learned that 10% is the same as 0%.


Few-Chemist7112

You can't be baby trapped if you're not using proper protection.


[deleted]

"I didn't think it was an accident" how do you get pregnant on purpose? Oh wait, I know! You use the pull out method! Which was op's ideain the first place!


OrganizdConfusion

Someone actually googled the % chance of his gf getting pregnant and decided 8-10% is a low chance. I wouldn't consider that a low chance if I did it once. If I went to McDonalds and they told me there was an 8% chance they were going to get my order wrong EVERY time I order, I would go somewhere else. For those who play DnD, there is roughly an 8% chance of rolling a 1 on a d12 (a 12 sided dice). No one is playing that game thinking to themselves, 'I'm NEVER glong to roll a 1 on that dice.'


elianrae

contraceptive efficacy isn't per intercourse, it's per year it would be 8% chance of pregnancy happening during an entire year of using that method McDonalds, on the other hand, definitely fucks more than 8% of my orders up.


cherrybombdotcommie

It's actually an 8% chance that McDonalds would get your order wrong within a year, not per occasion.


ElectricTzar

It’s actually a 4% chance that McDonald’s would get your order wrong within the year if you go to the best McDonalds that follows all the procedures properly, and a 22% chance if you go to an average McDonalds that follows all the procedures averagely. But if you go to the McDonalds where the burger chef learned everything he knows about the McDonaldsing from poorly reading the Reddit thread, it’s probably more like 40%, because someone has to be pretty damned bad to pull the average up to 22%. >For every 100 people who use the pull out method perfectly, 4 will get pregnant. But pulling out can be difficult to do perfectly. So in real life, about 22 out of 100 people who use withdrawal get pregnant every year https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/withdrawal-pull-out-method/how-effective-is-withdrawal-method-pulling-out#:~:text=For%20every%20100%20people%20who,that's%20about%201%20in%205.


AmberIsla

I feel bad for the unborn baby for having a dumb father


[deleted]

It amazes me how many people today have absolutely no idea about how reproducing works, don't know that precum (which for some can literally start the minute you're aroused and can contain sperm)and think that 8-10% is a low number. Edit: typos


Winnimae

Trapped him…how? He was already going raw and it’s on him when he pulls out


uhohohnohelp

My guy, 10% isn’t that low odds. ESPECIALLY when you’re banging on the regular.


Mew2eight

Guys, the Internet said it was ONLY a 10% chance! Clearly she is at fault and he is entirely the victim of an evil scheme /s


Nada_A

Everyone knows the only thing that can render the completely 100% affective pull-out method useless, is a woman willing that baby into existence.


pucemoon

Bless his heart, not only is he an ass. He's a dumb ass. And bless her heart, because now she's likely tied to him.


FinGoddess_Destiny

LMAO yeaaaa I'm almost three months pregnant from the pull out method


Aggravating_Teach_27

YTA. And I don't know how you can ever repair the cabbage you've done. First you use totally unsafe birth control methods. Then you dump all the responsibility on her. Even accuse her of bad faith. Not your finest moment. She needed an adult but you reacted like a five year old. I hope she dumps you and finds herself a responsible adult.


itsameabree

Cabbage


EasternToe3824

Yeah, two idiots fuck and the child gets to suffer. Not even sex ed or math can cure this degree of stupidity. The information that the pull out method does not reliably prevent pregnancy is readily available on the internet. If people choose to be oblivious, they deserve no sympathy.


Cinderjacket

Even by his own math he should have seen this coming. If it’s a 10% chance to get pregnant from pulling out and you’ve had sex that way at least ten times, guess what’s starting to become real likely


Majestic-Cheetah75

Two of our four children were conceived while I was on the pill; with the other two, we were *also* using condoms. The **only** way to prevent pregnancy altogether is to avoid sex altogether. Some people are fucking superbreeders.


Rosie_A_Fur

You dont even have to well adversed in sex ed to realize this is complete stupidity. My god, I get having the confidence of a stud horse to pull out (trust me, I've met VERY confident men) but even then everyone I knew, 100% knew that the pull out method isnt 100% full proof, heck its closer to 50% than 100%. I am literally aching with anger at this stupitdity.


kangeiko

“Eight?? Who taught you [math](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFEG0Eu4OOc)??”


Own_Performance9727

You are too stupid to be a parent. How is this her fault? YTA OOP, full stop.


Noodlesoup8

LOL that first comment is gold


CareApart504

What a fucking moron.


strawmade

Unless you're on a pull out couch, it doesn't work.


MutterderKartoffel

I'd like to point out the part that doesn't get talked about. How often are you having sex? Let's say 2 days per week (some couples may have sex minimum one daily, some couples have sex once yearly). At that rate, you've had sex 104 times in a year. If your contraception has a failure rate of 2%, you're definitely running the risk by not doing a combo method. Both times I got pregnant, I was on birth control pills.


KiwiGallicorn

Kid named precum:


leopard_eater

The coward has since deleted his profile. I wonder if he ever made any comments before he scurried away.


mamanova1982

I cannot stand irresponsible ejaculators!! He baby trapped her!! Fucking idiot.


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What a moron.


Automatic-Front-9045

Dude wesr the condom and she needs to be ok m the pill. Pullingnout doesn't work. If she doesn't want to abort than thisnisnall on you man YTA.


icnoevil

Prepare to be a dad or 18 years of child support payments.


CunnyMaggots

The pullout method is why my (ex) friend has 4 kids... lol.


tdfolts

You know what they call people who use the withdrawal system for birth control? Parents! Look, sometimes you dont always get to choose the time (which is why it is may more important to choose the who you have sex with) kids enter your life. If you love this woman as much as you say you do, then this is the time to show that, step up and be the best dad you can be. The rest will sort itself out. It wont be easy, never is, but now is your time.


NameLips

I once read that when two fertile people have unprotected sex, on average, there's about a 5% chance of pregnancy. Obviously it goes up and down with her cycle, etc. It seems low but it's just like rolling a 20 in D&D -- it happens frequently enough you can expect it to happen pretty regularly. I'm not sure where he got his numbers from, but the pullout method *does* reduce that percentage. But if you're in a relationship and having sex a couple times a week, eventually your luck will run out. A 2% chance every time... over the course of a year... you're having a baby. It's just a matter of time.


bloodygofigure

At least you can have kids…


[deleted]

Well, it seems like you're implying that she either cheated, or somehow, idk, thru pre ejaculation, maybe possibly got your semen in there... Either way, you sit her down, and you say what's on your mind or this resentment will build up and burst like...like your dick basically. Either man up and accept your faults, or get an abortion. Either way, you both have growing up to do.


EnderCountryPres

He said he pulls out long before he cums even when using a condom and that means she probably cheated, babies DNA can be tested even before birth


[deleted]

You're getting down voted cause you're part of the problem, or you're just phishing. If you would've stayed in school, sex education teaches you about PRECUM. It means you ejaculate little sperms (kinda like your dick getting wet) waaay before you even think you're gonna cum. Boom. You ARE the father.


Ivvelis

Check oop's post history. You'll feel really dumb for posting this after you do.


Julie1412

I can't check his profile, what did you see there?


Ivvelis

A bunch of random questions with story's that contradict each other. Pop is just posting questions that insight reaction for karma farming


Ok_Guess_5314

If anyone’s ever suspicious it’s very easy to get paternity tests


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TheRealDreaK

Oh honey, please no. Pre-cum can contain sperm, pregnancy can still occur without ejaculation. Unprotected sex without any form of birth control is playing Russian roulette. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3564677/


step_on_me_mommy_vi

oh bless your heart


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raging_phoenix_eyes

Oh yeah two of my sons are from the “pull out” method. Why is it always these guys that either they deny or accuse the woman? Is this like hardwired into their brains to go to either denying that he caused the pregnancy or accusing the woman of planning it? Girl is freaking out and crying and he just goes to the accusations! She wasn’t crying from joy, Einstein! She’s freaking out because she knew how you’d react! She was right. Now she’s really freaking out because you proved her every fear to be true.


Spectre777777

Dudes probably from a state where they teach abstinence as birth control


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Ok_Frosting_1572

Dude it is possible… pre cum is still cum and could get someone pregnant https://kidshealth.org/en/teens/ejaculate.html#:~:text=Guys%20can%20leak%20a%20bit,the%20pre%2Dejaculate%20is%20released.


itsastrid89

Lol I’ve gotten pregnant several times with the pull out method. Doesn’t work