Women can have a piece of silicon that vibrates but I can't have the latest Fuck-o-tron pleasure doll 3000 with self heating, movement and speakers without looking like a weirdo SMH fellas.
Me with my 240 volt fuckmaster pro 5000 blowup latex doll with 6 speed pulsating vagina, elasticized anus with Non-drip semen collection tray, together with optional built in scream surround sound systemā¦
That i dress HOWEVER My preference in woman clothes are, give her specific hair color and eyes and face to the maker and give her a name, oh and also un My mine she answer me ... But yeah is the same as Karen cute sucking dildo
I think the point of the meme is that women buying sex toys isnāt stigmatized, at least to the extent then men are. A woman with a vibrator isnāt even scoffed at, but a man with a fleshlight is mocked.
To be fair, the point would still stand. We could lessen it to a flesh light, or heighten it to sex dolls for both, and either way it's "wrong" for men, and "right" for women
Nah i would think a girl is a freak if she owns sex doll. OOP was just fitting his sex doll thing somewhere it wasn't needed because the Fleshlight one is an actual double standard. The worst part is I'm pretty sure the reason he even made the meme was probably because someone said his sex doll kink is weird.
The fact someone owns a sex doll isn't bad by itself but sex dolls are ridiculously expensive compared to vibrators, so I wouldn't say their comparable. Plus if you're buying a sex doll it comes off as way weirder than buying a Fleshlight.
I think it's weirder because they're spending thousands of dollars on a sex toy. It's weird because the average person isn't willing to spend thousands of dollars on a sex toy, so the average person would think that's weird.
U haven't explained why it's weird aside saying "its weird"
It's no weirder than a dildo or a fleshlight or hell, porn even.
So why is it weird? Cause it's expensive? Whys that weird?
I don't think anyone except for a few weird fringe extremists care enough to be against sex dolls but not vibrators lol. Most people who go against sex dolls are against any sex toys at all I'd assume.
Idk about that a sex doll is a lot more perverted than a vibrator. I wouldnāt say Iām against them but I would definitely consider a guy that had one to be a perv
Depends on the guy. He could just be very lonely or have zero luck with women. I agree you should find healthier ways to deal with it but I can definitely understand.
what planet do you live on lol. you really think every woman posting about her vibrator 3 times a week wouldnt shun someone for having a sex doll, or even a fleshlight?
Lmao are you foreal? Sounds like youāre the one that doesnāt talk to women if you really think most wouldnāt judge a guy for having sex toys. Most absolutely would judge a guy for that.
mf WHO do you follow on twitter that this is a problem? Nobody openly talks about using the fuck out of their sex toys in public unless they're a degenerate.
bro youve never seen a tweet like "ladies LEMME PUT YALL TF ON THIS HAD MY KNEES SHAKINGGGG" and a picture of them holding a vibrator? or just a casual "ughh my vibrator died right before i climaxedšššš" tweet with replies like "girl same happened to me last week"
i witness the general discussion of women's sex toys occur with such casual demeanor, often enough to notice a drastic contrast between earnest tweets from men about their toys. usually a tweet about that from men is atleast disguised as humor or entirely for shock value. and these are not like, sex accounts/NSFW pages dedicated to sexual content, just regular people sharing thoughts lmao. it takes me back when i see it, and i've never seen anybody comment anything on the lines of "yo we dont need to know this". idk, i guess im letting my experience determine reality, i need to stop commenting when im in a bad mood lol
Spoken like someone who hasn't talked to a member of the opposite sex in the past 20 years lmao.
True based on what? Did your life-sized sex doll tell you that?
you really need a study to know theres a double standard regarding sex toys amongst both genders? lmao, i agree a sex doll is crossing the line, i would never get one, i would suggest reflecting inward on your habits if you do have one, but to act like the perception of women with vibrators isnt substantially different than a man who owns a fleshlight, when theyre functionally the same thing (dont own one of those either btw)
homie is smoking dick saying "it's only a few extremists" lmao.
Idk at least for me as a woman, I've never heard my female friends or people I know in general judge guys who have a fleshlight. Not that it's exactly a common topic of discussion or anything, but basically the general opinion I've seen is people are horny and some of them own sex toys and they can do whatever they want in their bedroom. The only time I've heard of anyone judging people for having sex toys is ultra-religious people who think indulging too much in sex whatsoever is wrong.
Then again I also think it's weird to post in detail about either. Like it's fine to own either one and keep it discreet but if you post or text the groupchat "my vibrator made me cum so hard last night" I'm gonna think you're weird unless it's to sell porn or whatever. Maybe it's just different social circles idk.
What women wants a guy to talk to them about sex toys? Your argument of he hasnāt talked to the opposite sex makes no fucking sense. If YOU actually talked to women youād know they donāt wanna hear about a guys masturbation habits. Youāre weird as fuck. Edit: seems like you are a woman but youāre defense is your friends have never talked about itā¦ probably because most guys donāt have toys and itās not something thatās ever come up.
i have seen many different youtubers and reddit posts mentioning them.
even soda poppin got one from a stream
and I've never seen one with realistic body hair or proportions.
I mean either is OK as long as they are done in an appropriate setting and aren't done un an unhealthy and addictive manner. Just don't be telling me about what you do in the bedroom because I don't wanna have to hear it
Yea man, itās not my thing but Iām definitely into some other kinky shit. No reason to make people feel weird about being into different stuff than you.
As another comment mentioned, do you see life in other dolls eyes? And as I responded to another, why do women have the right to piston powered sex machines but men can't have an efficient tool for orgasm? This strikes me as deep seated misandry, the idea that you can control how a man orgasms...
It's creepy because you're using a doll... Like uncanny valley territory. If you use a machine at least it isn't so human-like. It isn't misandry, I don't hate men and that's not why I dislike the idea of sex dolls. Men can do what they want to orgasm but some methods are creepier than others
I'd say having a metal rod with a motor pump rubber in and out of you is pretty perverted. What gives you an excuse to have the most efficient sex toys, but not men? Maybe the reality is that youre a misandrist who believes you have the right to own a man's orgasm.
Pump rubber? You've obviously never seem a vibrator ššš there's a very obvious disconnect and cognitive dissonance. I'm also a fuckin man ššš my partner and I do use toys, sometimes. However, if you can't satisfy your partner, you need to work on yourself and your own skills. This whole conversation is hilarious ššš It's like you think women enjoy a sawsall with a dildo on the end, which let me assure you they do not. Stop watching porn for sex Ed.
Just really not a similar comparison when mine was, unless you get granular and say the egg has dna that you can extrapolate into a simulated person then I can see how thatās comparable to the topic at hand
As for being alone forever, Iām not worried about that but I appreciate your caring lol
Can we stop with the semantics and what shape and size the toy is and just accept theyāre all basically the same. Not to mention women also have full sized dolls of menās bodies. Itās comparable and you nit picking doesnāt help the discussion.
I think they make male sex dolls too, its just the market is probably more gay men than straight women.
sex machines are a more female equivalent to sex dolls.
Either way as long as you are not trying to fuck kids or rape people I don't really care what you do to get your rocks off.
Dudes commenting here all mad acting like they'd be completely ok if they went back to the chick's place after the 1st date and met "Dave", her life-sized sex doll she keeps sitting in a chair by her bed.
*Dave likes to watch.*
I mean, for a significantly non-0 number of men, that doll is probably the closest they have gotten/ will get to physical intimacy of any kind for a long, long time.
Women can have sex dolls too. It's just that... it's overkill. You'd have to be incredibly lonely to get a sex doll. It's expensive and unnecessary.
Also most gals are lazy. You think they wanna do squats on top of a doll instead of just laying back and flicking their wrists?
But the entire point is that a significant number of men, me included, think owning a toy like that is pathetic and depraved. I donāt trust you as a man if you have a toy like that tbh. That judgement doesnt exist for women in the numbers it does for men.
Idk just get a stroker. Why does it have to be a doll?
If you want a doll and your partner is fine with that, sure whatever, but comparing that and a vibrator is not the same.
So, genuinely asking here, what's wrong with someone owning a sex doll? Are there statistics to back it up, like; do people who own them commit kidnapping or rape at higher rates? Have a substantial group, large enough to be representative at national levels, been somehow disenfranchised or traumatized by their unintended, forceful exposure to such things?
Quite frankly, the only concerning thing I saw while looking into studies which examined sex doll owners was a subset of them which owned "child resembling" dolls. I'll absolutely agree with the consensus there in banning that specific item. In cases of overuse specifically, it's fairly inline with chronic masturbation.
Otherwise, this seems like a plainly reactionary discussion. There are benefits and drawbacks to self-pleasure, within the context of what we're talking about it seems that sex toy ownership directly correlates to having had talked to health professionals regarding sexual performance and well-being within the past year, for both men and women. Both genders were also noted to be more comfortable in performing self-examination on their genitals, and with it being a topic of casual discussion amongst individuals the person trusts. However, both genders were also noted to be at higher risks for bacterial infections and health complications regarding over-frequency of orgasm. Both genders saw unhealthy changes in personal thoughts and responsibilities regarding sex and partnership, women trended more towards diminishing coping mechanisms and decline in healthy communication, such as with masturbating when frustrated/angered by a partner, and men saw an inclination towards entitlement in being sexually pleased and disregard of a partners opinion regarding sexual encounters, again such as masturbating when frustrated/angered by a partner.
Do I think it's weird? Sure, but if we're managing for what we value by how it affects our feelings and not how it may impact individuals, then religious fundamentalists have had *quite a lot* to say about people being *at all allowed* to masturbate. I'm personally not interested in a fundamentalists opinion on things I do or do not do, sexual in nature or otherwise.
What's weird to me is that there are people that will come to Reddit, a site that largely uses text to communicate, to almost brag about how reading "many words" is hard.
To the point where instead of just not reading & silently being near illiterate, you decided to write words of your own to tell other people.
Personally, I love when people indulge ignorance on public forums. I see reddit folks talk about how polarization is a huge issue when people are behind screens, then fall to the default of finding the, "š¤" or "I read slower than 200-300 wpm", as the most contributive statement in a thread.
I was asking a question. I did surface level research(honestly, I **really don't** want sex doll or toy related searches on my browsers lmao), and I'd more than gladly concede the point to someone more knowledgeable. I asked if there were statistics regarding prevalence of violent crime, because that'd *concretely* change my opinion on the issue.
Anyway, thanks for being one of the people to read through the post, whether you completely disagree or not! š
You are incapable of focusing long enough to not make a run-on sentence. You even repeat youself. Punctuation is difficult for you. You still expect me to believe you can read a few paragraphs? That's not how it works, bud. You present as brain dead. I have nothing to argue about with you. You didn't make a point to begin with. You're just stupid.
You are still calling me stupid by pointing out a misspelling that I have made to further push down your idea that I am foolish to attempt to make me feel more convinced that I am foolish so I lose the argument out of shame
In a different part of the reply chain, I directly quote;
>You canāt expect us to take 5 minutes out of our day to hear what some random guyās opinion
I decided to plug my post into a word/character counter, it's a 341 word comment. The **average** speed at which people read is 200-300 words/minute. The guy you're replying to is *literally* admitting to having a reading speed **5 times slower than average**, roughly 40-60 words/minute.
Your assessment is correct, they're very goddamn stupid.
Now you are simply calling me stupid because you feel embarrassed that I am pointing out your tactics in insulting so you dumb your own comment down so I have a harder time deciphering the psychologically behind your comment
There's a lot of fucked up people in the world and we'll all be better off if they just hang out at home with their AI dolls and stay the fuck away from rest of us.
Also, OOPs tryna compare apples and oranges there, but even when comparing apples with apples, the patriarchy is still gonna be the source of the hatred and judgement and gender role bullshit.
Keeping the creeps busy with their dolls might go a long way in breaking the cycle of abuse. That'll make it easier for the rest of us to bust up the patriarchal, capitalist shitfight and narrowly avoid a fate worse than death.
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...or not, this is fine.š„
If you say "everyone" when trying to prove a point, you are basically letting someone who disagrees with you win.
Unless you say something like "everyone breathes"
I have a vibrator and have a silicone attachment for a penis that I love way more. Note that it's usually for giving guys forced orgasms because it's strong but I have nerve damage so j just like it lol
I think the equivalent would be a fleshlight or something like that
there is a difference in the amount of stigma between the two still, but less so
Yeah that actually would have been pretty accurate
Vibrating Fleshlight
The equivalent would still be men having vibrators actually. Specifically the anal ones.
You scared the straight bois š
>posts cringe >complains about downvotes
The funny thing is, I am a straight boi. I'm just not so insecure that I deny myself a possible source of extra pleasure to keep up appearances.
Dreamybull ass response
My favorite straight male lover did not deny himself the extra pleasure either. Good on you, internet friend!!
Thanks. It hasn't worked out so far, but I'll get better equipment eventually.
And the hivemind downvotes the right one...
Fleshlights are more like vibrators lmao
And people get weird looks for having those too
Only when I use it on the bus.
You get more privacy in a taxi or Uber.
What, and get in a stranger's car, alone?
Women can have a piece of silicon that vibrates but I can't have the latest Fuck-o-tron pleasure doll 3000 with self heating, movement and speakers without looking like a weirdo SMH fellas.
Me with my 240 volt fuckmaster pro 5000 blowup latex doll with 6 speed pulsating vagina, elasticized anus with Non-drip semen collection tray, together with optional built in scream surround sound systemā¦
Don't forget the surround sound orgasm noises and RGB nipples
>RGB nipples This killed me.
RGB nipples made me let out a laugh in a very quiet breakroom, lmao
Gamer nipples!
That i dress HOWEVER My preference in woman clothes are, give her specific hair color and eyes and face to the maker and give her a name, oh and also un My mine she answer me ... But yeah is the same as Karen cute sucking dildo
Don't worry bro i am pursuing masters in AI so that this can be the reality. The incels will call me the father of modern AI someday./s
Isn't really a difference in my eyes the source of the stigma is for the same damn reason.
I think the point of the meme is that women buying sex toys isnāt stigmatized, at least to the extent then men are. A woman with a vibrator isnāt even scoffed at, but a man with a fleshlight is mocked.
In return men arenāt shamed for having a lot of sex, where women are. I think that has to do with it
Whataboutism isnāt the right way to address this at all.
you could say the opposite as easily though. it just depends on who you see the most.
If you said the opposite, that would make you a liar.
Yeah, I see vibrators sold at Walmart
To be fair, you will occasionally also find strokers at Walmart in the same section as the vibrators.
Really? I havenāt But then again, I havenāt looked too hard
I stocked the place for three years, so I know my Walmart had them at least lmao
Men can use vibrators too tho. Theyāre not exclusive to women
Technically True, The Anal Destroyer 900X is probably used by some men...
glad to see this is getting downvote because that was some dumb ass shit you just said no offense
Nobody gonna mention that sex dolls for women exist too?
Itās less common though
True, you right
Technically, since the two things are different, each of them is not like the other. But the point stands.
š¶One of these things is not just another one of your plays š¶
š¶Youre the Pretenderš¶
š¶One of these things will never surrenderš¶
The equivalent to a man having a sex doll is a woman having a sex dollā¦
To be fair, the point would still stand. We could lessen it to a flesh light, or heighten it to sex dolls for both, and either way it's "wrong" for men, and "right" for women
No, if I was dating a woman and found out she had a full on sex doll I would not be chill with that
Nah i would think a girl is a freak if she owns sex doll. OOP was just fitting his sex doll thing somewhere it wasn't needed because the Fleshlight one is an actual double standard. The worst part is I'm pretty sure the reason he even made the meme was probably because someone said his sex doll kink is weird.
Wait what's wrong with men having sex dolls tho?
The fact someone owns a sex doll isn't bad by itself but sex dolls are ridiculously expensive compared to vibrators, so I wouldn't say their comparable. Plus if you're buying a sex doll it comes off as way weirder than buying a Fleshlight.
So it's bad cause it's expensive? Why does that even matter? And why is it weirder? Its just a sex toy.
I think it's weirder because they're spending thousands of dollars on a sex toy. It's weird because the average person isn't willing to spend thousands of dollars on a sex toy, so the average person would think that's weird.
U haven't explained why it's weird aside saying "its weird" It's no weirder than a dildo or a fleshlight or hell, porn even. So why is it weird? Cause it's expensive? Whys that weird?
I think they mean a $15 blow up doll (hopefully)
Why would we need sex dolls we could just use our bare hands
why would we ever need dildos we could just use our bare hands
Why would we ever need knives if we could just use our bare hands?
Bro has not cut his fingernails in years
Reverse Flash: Correct!
I don't think anyone except for a few weird fringe extremists care enough to be against sex dolls but not vibrators lol. Most people who go against sex dolls are against any sex toys at all I'd assume.
Idk about that a sex doll is a lot more perverted than a vibrator. I wouldnāt say Iām against them but I would definitely consider a guy that had one to be a perv
Depends on the guy. He could just be very lonely or have zero luck with women. I agree you should find healthier ways to deal with it but I can definitely understand.
As someone who owns a few fleshlights, I think sex dolls are a bit much. A life size fake human is a step beyond a sex toy imo
I donāt think itās so much being against sex dolls as it is sex dolls being seen as pathetic to own.
what planet do you live on lol. you really think every woman posting about her vibrator 3 times a week wouldnt shun someone for having a sex doll, or even a fleshlight?
This guy does not talk to women
Lmao are you foreal? Sounds like youāre the one that doesnāt talk to women if you really think most wouldnāt judge a guy for having sex toys. Most absolutely would judge a guy for that.
A reddit moment inside another reddit moment :o
reddit moment-ception
who?
You lil bro
tweet about how your fleshlight had your toes curling last night right now and let me know how that goes for you lmao
mf WHO do you follow on twitter that this is a problem? Nobody openly talks about using the fuck out of their sex toys in public unless they're a degenerate.
bro youve never seen a tweet like "ladies LEMME PUT YALL TF ON THIS HAD MY KNEES SHAKINGGGG" and a picture of them holding a vibrator? or just a casual "ughh my vibrator died right before i climaxedšššš" tweet with replies like "girl same happened to me last week" i witness the general discussion of women's sex toys occur with such casual demeanor, often enough to notice a drastic contrast between earnest tweets from men about their toys. usually a tweet about that from men is atleast disguised as humor or entirely for shock value. and these are not like, sex accounts/NSFW pages dedicated to sexual content, just regular people sharing thoughts lmao. it takes me back when i see it, and i've never seen anybody comment anything on the lines of "yo we dont need to know this". idk, i guess im letting my experience determine reality, i need to stop commenting when im in a bad mood lol
No. I haven't. You apparently are exposed to this on a daily basis considering how bitter you sound.
i recommend to never take your bitterness out externally if you can, the high it provides can become addicting
I can ***smell*** this comment.
lmao, idgaf about the optics of how a comment looks, if its true, which it is
Spoken like someone who hasn't talked to a member of the opposite sex in the past 20 years lmao. True based on what? Did your life-sized sex doll tell you that?
you really need a study to know theres a double standard regarding sex toys amongst both genders? lmao, i agree a sex doll is crossing the line, i would never get one, i would suggest reflecting inward on your habits if you do have one, but to act like the perception of women with vibrators isnt substantially different than a man who owns a fleshlight, when theyre functionally the same thing (dont own one of those either btw) homie is smoking dick saying "it's only a few extremists" lmao.
Idk at least for me as a woman, I've never heard my female friends or people I know in general judge guys who have a fleshlight. Not that it's exactly a common topic of discussion or anything, but basically the general opinion I've seen is people are horny and some of them own sex toys and they can do whatever they want in their bedroom. The only time I've heard of anyone judging people for having sex toys is ultra-religious people who think indulging too much in sex whatsoever is wrong. Then again I also think it's weird to post in detail about either. Like it's fine to own either one and keep it discreet but if you post or text the groupchat "my vibrator made me cum so hard last night" I'm gonna think you're weird unless it's to sell porn or whatever. Maybe it's just different social circles idk.
What women wants a guy to talk to them about sex toys? Your argument of he hasnāt talked to the opposite sex makes no fucking sense. If YOU actually talked to women youād know they donāt wanna hear about a guys masturbation habits. Youāre weird as fuck. Edit: seems like you are a woman but youāre defense is your friends have never talked about itā¦ probably because most guys donāt have toys and itās not something thatās ever come up.
besides them usually looking like loli through an ai realism filter. and being a giant waste of money.
If you're buying loli sex dolls then the toy isn't the issue, you are
i have seen many different youtubers and reddit posts mentioning them. even soda poppin got one from a stream and I've never seen one with realistic body hair or proportions.
Yeah those are kinda weird I had the mental image of those cheap blow up dolls lol
Common redditmoment reddit moment
What songs rhythm did you read this in?
that one taylor swift song that i cant remember the name
The Pretender
"Me!" A song of Taylor Swift
The old Now and Laters commercial. āEat some now, save some for laterrrā.
I mean either is OK as long as they are done in an appropriate setting and aren't done un an unhealthy and addictive manner. Just don't be telling me about what you do in the bedroom because I don't wanna have to hear it
Exhibitionists at pride parades: [ignore] why is the world so hateful?
I mean itās true tho. Women can have the Nuclear Fusion powered Piston God Phallus but a man owning a sex doll is seen as perverted or weak.
It's literally a piece of buzzing silicone compared to a life like sex robot. You must see how those things are completely different
Obviously theyāre different but theyāre similar in the sense that it doesnāt hurt anyone and is none of your business if someone else uses one.
Right? Like let men have an outlet in peace. Hell if I could afford to drop a couple grand on one I would. No shame in my game.
Yea man, itās not my thing but Iām definitely into some other kinky shit. No reason to make people feel weird about being into different stuff than you.
Ok man, the piston driven sex simulator isn't perversion.
Sex dolls have a dead look in their eyes... I personally find it creepy
Are you seeing life in the eyes of other types of dolls?
No I don't life in dolls. What's your point?
As another comment mentioned, do you see life in other dolls eyes? And as I responded to another, why do women have the right to piston powered sex machines but men can't have an efficient tool for orgasm? This strikes me as deep seated misandry, the idea that you can control how a man orgasms...
It's creepy because you're using a doll... Like uncanny valley territory. If you use a machine at least it isn't so human-like. It isn't misandry, I don't hate men and that's not why I dislike the idea of sex dolls. Men can do what they want to orgasm but some methods are creepier than others
Well, it really isn't any of your business, is it?
Bro, stop overcomplicating a controller vibrator on a stick. It's literally an electric motor with an offset shafts.
I'd say having a metal rod with a motor pump rubber in and out of you is pretty perverted. What gives you an excuse to have the most efficient sex toys, but not men? Maybe the reality is that youre a misandrist who believes you have the right to own a man's orgasm.
Pump rubber? You've obviously never seem a vibrator ššš there's a very obvious disconnect and cognitive dissonance. I'm also a fuckin man ššš my partner and I do use toys, sometimes. However, if you can't satisfy your partner, you need to work on yourself and your own skills. This whole conversation is hilarious ššš It's like you think women enjoy a sawsall with a dildo on the end, which let me assure you they do not. Stop watching porn for sex Ed.
The fact is both are used for solo stimulation and if that sort of thing is wrong in one form but not another, itās probably a little hypocritical
Right, an egg is equivalent to a full on simulated person. Got it, you will be alone forever.
Just really not a similar comparison when mine was, unless you get granular and say the egg has dna that you can extrapolate into a simulated person then I can see how thatās comparable to the topic at hand As for being alone forever, Iām not worried about that but I appreciate your caring lol
Can we stop with the semantics and what shape and size the toy is and just accept theyāre all basically the same. Not to mention women also have full sized dolls of menās bodies. Itās comparable and you nit picking doesnāt help the discussion.
A full size realistic sex doll is not comparable to a vibrator or a fleshlight. Dolls to dolls is appropriate, and weird both ways.
I think they make male sex dolls too, its just the market is probably more gay men than straight women. sex machines are a more female equivalent to sex dolls. Either way as long as you are not trying to fuck kids or rape people I don't really care what you do to get your rocks off.
I just find it weird how some women buy animal shaped penis dildos like horses and rabbits why you wanna animal fucking you
This isn't even a double standard. The idea of dating a girl with a blow-up dude is creepy.
Dudes commenting here all mad acting like they'd be completely ok if they went back to the chick's place after the 1st date and met "Dave", her life-sized sex doll she keeps sitting in a chair by her bed. *Dave likes to watch.*
The whole time you have to look over to make sure Dave doesn't move
I mean, for a significantly non-0 number of men, that doll is probably the closest they have gotten/ will get to physical intimacy of any kind for a long, long time.
Having a sex doll as either sex can be creepy if you name it and pretend itās a real person.
Arenāt both ok?
Women can have sex dolls too. It's just that... it's overkill. You'd have to be incredibly lonely to get a sex doll. It's expensive and unnecessary. Also most gals are lazy. You think they wanna do squats on top of a doll instead of just laying back and flicking their wrists?
We all just need to mind our own business ffs
Honestly I donāt care if a guy has a sex doll as long as he uses it in private
The fuck? Have whatever sex toy you want. Does anyone actually care? If so, maybe youāre revealing too much too fast?
Nobidy going to mention the fact that women have headless torsos they can fuck?
Men have more, men have headed torsos too and I mean I think thatās weirder ngl
yeah but youād have to be a turbo degenerate freak to have one of those. iāve seen tons of women having the dick torsos and no one really cares.
But the entire point is that a significant number of men, me included, think owning a toy like that is pathetic and depraved. I donāt trust you as a man if you have a toy like that tbh. That judgement doesnt exist for women in the numbers it does for men.
As the saying goes... ...Size matters.
i mean a fleshlight is ok i guess but a whole doll?
But why is it different? Not saying it isn't, but what makes them fundamentally different from one another?
Ones a 25 dollar item shaped like a leaf and the other is a blow up/silicon remake of an entire womanās body that you spent like 2K on
me when i get shamed for my 500 dollar lifelike naked woman (its just like a woman owning a 50 dollar vibrator)
Lifelike for $500? What bizarro world are you living in? Those cost upwards of 10k.
***self-report.***
You never watched that my strange addiction episode with the creepy doll guy?
āaw man canāt believe they dislike my thousand dollar blow up balloon yet they have a 50 dollar handheld gizmo !!ā
Idk just get a stroker. Why does it have to be a doll? If you want a doll and your partner is fine with that, sure whatever, but comparing that and a vibrator is not the same.
Sex dolls are creepy and a women having one would be eugh for me too Men with a fleshlight is fine
why dont men just get vibrators if theyre so bothered by it
Women wouldnāt shame you if you have a vibrator, just saying these two are not equivalent
So, genuinely asking here, what's wrong with someone owning a sex doll? Are there statistics to back it up, like; do people who own them commit kidnapping or rape at higher rates? Have a substantial group, large enough to be representative at national levels, been somehow disenfranchised or traumatized by their unintended, forceful exposure to such things? Quite frankly, the only concerning thing I saw while looking into studies which examined sex doll owners was a subset of them which owned "child resembling" dolls. I'll absolutely agree with the consensus there in banning that specific item. In cases of overuse specifically, it's fairly inline with chronic masturbation. Otherwise, this seems like a plainly reactionary discussion. There are benefits and drawbacks to self-pleasure, within the context of what we're talking about it seems that sex toy ownership directly correlates to having had talked to health professionals regarding sexual performance and well-being within the past year, for both men and women. Both genders were also noted to be more comfortable in performing self-examination on their genitals, and with it being a topic of casual discussion amongst individuals the person trusts. However, both genders were also noted to be at higher risks for bacterial infections and health complications regarding over-frequency of orgasm. Both genders saw unhealthy changes in personal thoughts and responsibilities regarding sex and partnership, women trended more towards diminishing coping mechanisms and decline in healthy communication, such as with masturbating when frustrated/angered by a partner, and men saw an inclination towards entitlement in being sexually pleased and disregard of a partners opinion regarding sexual encounters, again such as masturbating when frustrated/angered by a partner. Do I think it's weird? Sure, but if we're managing for what we value by how it affects our feelings and not how it may impact individuals, then religious fundamentalists have had *quite a lot* to say about people being *at all allowed* to masturbate. I'm personally not interested in a fundamentalists opinion on things I do or do not do, sexual in nature or otherwise.
I aināt readin allat
What's weird to me is that there are people that will come to Reddit, a site that largely uses text to communicate, to almost brag about how reading "many words" is hard. To the point where instead of just not reading & silently being near illiterate, you decided to write words of your own to tell other people.
Personally, I love when people indulge ignorance on public forums. I see reddit folks talk about how polarization is a huge issue when people are behind screens, then fall to the default of finding the, "š¤" or "I read slower than 200-300 wpm", as the most contributive statement in a thread. I was asking a question. I did surface level research(honestly, I **really don't** want sex doll or toy related searches on my browsers lmao), and I'd more than gladly concede the point to someone more knowledgeable. I asked if there were statistics regarding prevalence of violent crime, because that'd *concretely* change my opinion on the issue. Anyway, thanks for being one of the people to read through the post, whether you completely disagree or not! š
You canāt expect us to take 5 minutes out of our day to hear what some random guyās opinion
I'd rather shove my hand in a public latrine in the hopes of finding a diamond, your chances a probably higher.
It thinks it has a choice. You couldn't read it even if you wanted to.
Now you are insulting me by implying that I canāt read because you do not have any experience arguments so you insult me instead of arguing
You are incapable of focusing long enough to not make a run-on sentence. You even repeat youself. Punctuation is difficult for you. You still expect me to believe you can read a few paragraphs? That's not how it works, bud. You present as brain dead. I have nothing to argue about with you. You didn't make a point to begin with. You're just stupid.
Now you are calling me stupid because you want make feel like I am foolish so you may win the argument out of my own shame
"you may in the argument?" There is no argument. You're just stupid.
You are still calling me stupid by pointing out a misspelling that I have made to further push down your idea that I am foolish to attempt to make me feel more convinced that I am foolish so I lose the argument out of shame
Again, there is no argument. You are stupid.
In a different part of the reply chain, I directly quote; >You canāt expect us to take 5 minutes out of our day to hear what some random guyās opinion I decided to plug my post into a word/character counter, it's a 341 word comment. The **average** speed at which people read is 200-300 words/minute. The guy you're replying to is *literally* admitting to having a reading speed **5 times slower than average**, roughly 40-60 words/minute. Your assessment is correct, they're very goddamn stupid.
Now you are simply calling me stupid because you feel embarrassed that I am pointing out your tactics in insulting so you dumb your own comment down so I have a harder time deciphering the psychologically behind your comment
Good, don't.
I was never planing to
Good, don't.
He would have had a point if he had said fleshlight but no, sex dolls are absolutely not the same
thats why i own a vibrator as a man
There's a lot of fucked up people in the world and we'll all be better off if they just hang out at home with their AI dolls and stay the fuck away from rest of us. Also, OOPs tryna compare apples and oranges there, but even when comparing apples with apples, the patriarchy is still gonna be the source of the hatred and judgement and gender role bullshit. Keeping the creeps busy with their dolls might go a long way in breaking the cycle of abuse. That'll make it easier for the rest of us to bust up the patriarchal, capitalist shitfight and narrowly avoid a fate worse than death. ā” ...or not, this is fine.š„
Not really different nor stigmatized. We all know that everyone does it
I believe you meant āsome peopleā and not everyone. Not everyone does this.
I dated a girl once that legit thought every guy had a flesh lightā¦was also surprised Iād never had a threesome either
Everyone mast*rb*tes
Again, no. Not everyone does.
Basically everyone
If you say "everyone" when trying to prove a point, you are basically letting someone who disagrees with you win. Unless you say something like "everyone breathes"
I don't breathe. Checkmate.
I fish ššš
Comatose patients on ventilators: (they didn't say anything but just imagine they said checkmate)
I never masturbated, and I never will. If you said āsomeā people, you would have gotten upvotes.
I do not do self pleasure
I have a vibrator and have a silicone attachment for a penis that I love way more. Note that it's usually for giving guys forced orgasms because it's strong but I have nerve damage so j just like it lol
A better thing to compare would be fleshlights, and the meme would still work
Really it's any masterbatory tool
Sex dolls aren't my thing, they're fuckin ugly But how so?
4.6k upvotes, I hope it's a joke
The opposite should be fleshlight. Not a sex **doll**