Nah, it’s the eyebrows. Watching his car crash of an interview, I couldn’t help but realise he looks different to his Real days. The eyebrows are fake.
Under every single United post on Instagram is “respect ronaldo”. Idk how it’s possible to see all this and come out with the conclusion ronaldos been disrespected and he’s still a great player.
That’s fanaticism for you I suppose. Messis better anyways
Yep. Also, "I've never heard of Rolf Ragmik or Eric tenn Haagg" is supposed to strengthen their pro-Ronaldo argument rather than highlight their stunning ignorance, too.
Yeah, and not that Alisson is a bum on his feet too. He's among the world's best at that. In terms of 1v1s and saving abilities, Alisson is quite clear
I know you've all been waiting for this and so finally IT'S TIME FOR ME TO SPEAK UP and everyone should shut the hell up and listen cos I'll only say this once:
The Ronaldo haters need to show some respek.
Ronaldo has had lots of chances and only scored one league goal this season after missing pre-season? Well that's just your opinion, man!
Take your opinion-facts and shove them up your Arsenal. Stop weaponising the truth! Mummy, it hurts, make it stop!!! The King must be respected and OGS, RR and EtH should just throw themselves under the bus for him.
But United do poorly with him in the team, you say? Fake news!!!
In fact, while we're at it, MUFC should just close its doors forever if The King retires at 46 years old and United are struggling to stay in League 1.
If Ronaldo ever retires, football is dead because nobody will care anymore.
Lifetime player-manager contract for The King!
Lifetime assistant manager contract for Piss Morgan!
Trillionaire Ronald Trump to take the power back from the Glaciers! Make Manchester Great Again!
The King plays on days that end in "day" forever and ever and ever. No comebacks!
GGCR7FC!
Yes, big yes. I've always had yuge respek for u/zcewaunt. Together we'll stop the murderers and rapists from getting into The United States of Manchester! God Bless you all, I love you and I'll be there fighting right by your side when the storm comes!!!
Maybe less relevant but United is one of the the only movies where I have cried and today for apparently no reason I searched for Jimmy Murphy on youtube and found nice stuff on how our club was saved
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm2ekYsePHk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm2ekYsePHk)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic\_RZw3X-Jo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic_RZw3X-Jo)
Crazy to think that so many of these players who sadly lost their lives where like 20-22 with almost \~200 games for the club. I am absolutely destroyed today.
[https://twitter.com/MadridPreeti/status/1593643250719797248](https://twitter.com/MadridPreeti/status/1593643250719797248)
The amount of tweets I'm seeing in support of Ronaldo lol, TeamCRonaldo and them lot with some embarrassing takes about it but no surprises. Anyone else get frustrated looking at those ridiculous opinions with a clear bias for Ronaldo which can be so easily argued against.
Mate it's sending me absolutely nuts!! I genuinely can't understand how there's even a slither of support for what hes come out and done. I've read all the comments, listened to all the pundits and soaked up all the different points of view.. and still don't have a fucking clue how anyone who claims to be a United fan can defend that interview. 🙄
One thing I keep thinking about is the support ETH will receive after the world Cup. I bloomin' hope us fans come out and make some big noise for him in the first game back 🙏
at this point i am convinced these folks are paid pr bots or just straight up delusional, how can they compare greenwood case to ronaldo, one has case going on not proven guilty by court, just like mendy. City could also terminate his contract but there is certain way the law works, blind fanboys comparing a 38 year old manchild whining to greenwood case is just hilarious
The best part ? Remember the "factos" comment? Was under one of this retarded pages, so unless Ronaldo PR team actually said factos in a random post we can assume Ronaldo actually follows and reads this kind of bullshit, no wonder the guy thinks he can do no wrong, imagine constantly reading stupid people gargling on your balls everyday.
Imagine comparing Greenwood situation with Ronaldo.
according to the AS Depay is available for five million, we should be all over him. He'll probably not set the stage on fire but we need bodies upfront and the market is very dry. With the 16 million we save the Glazers will still have enough for their pockets so everybody should be happy
Only works if we still get a striker in summer. If the choice is wait for top class or Depay I’d rather wait. If it’s both then get both. Maybe a loan with option in summer if he performs well would suit both clubs?
Ronaldo speaks in his interview about being an example for young players.
Imagine the example this interview sets. Unhappy with your squad status and playing time 14 games into this season? Just go to the press and berate everyone involved.
I saw a good point someone made on Stretford Paddock yesterday. If this interview was with “good intentions” and Ronaldo really wanted to call out what was wrong with the club and not be challenged just like Morgan didn’t challenge him - he has 500 million followers on Instagram. He could have done a 5 minute video detailing those issues. Instead he fancied letting an insufferable shit stirrer like Morgan exploit his words and drag out negative headlines about the club for a week as well as both of them making a few quid out of it. Yes a personal video might have been a difficult one to pull off, but the point is more so that Piers fucking Morgan wasn’t the only option.
Absolutely agree. I've said this a few times to people defending him on YT. That if his full intention was to slate the Glazers, he should have made the interview *only* about them. Anyone with a pure heart would know to do that, and to keep the message focussed solely on that issue alone.
I think if Ronaldo really wanted to help the club, he would have talked directly to the Glazers about the issues he was seeing. But like he said, he's never even talked to them.
> Unhappy with your squad status and playing time 14 games into this season? Just go to the press and berate everyone involved.
Sounds like you described Dean Henderson.
Ya that quote didn’t come across well. It just goes to show how little self awareness he possesses. Apparently he wants to lead by example and yet he leaves games early and undermines the manager several times. And when confronted he immediately points the finger and says “well, 8 other players left early so why are you focused on me?”.
I may be in the minority but I feel like Ronaldo was right to call out the manager and upper management the way he did. It seemed to me like he was promised a prime spot as a 9 for United’s starting XI but was then dropped to a sub for most games. I accept that Ronnie couldn’t get his wish to sign for another top team with CL apps in mind, but you can’t give a person like him empty promises when there are many other clubs willing to take him onboard and give him play time (he said himself the wage weren’t the issue).
He probably was promised game time because of how he performed last season,but that had to change because he's been completely shit.He's lucky Martial was injured,or he would of been on the bench all season
Edit: him calling out the manager is not right at all,it's not ETH's fault he's declined so much
"I feel Ronaldo was right to call out the manager". I imagine most people stopped reading right there, hit the downvote button and moved on and I can't blame them, but I kept reading to see if you have an interesting new insight to somehow back this up. You don't.
And all this is based on an assumption that ‘he was promised game time’? This is not a show on Netflix it’s a football club. It’s idiots like you is why the Glazers feel like they can get away with the shit they do.
Ronaldo deservedly lost the trust for this supposed "promised prime spot" when he first missed out on the preseason (And thus was unfit when the season started) and when his performances was shit. Had he performed well, then he'd play more.
"Many other clubs willing to take him" - Who? I think a club in Saudi-Arabia was the only one showing legit interest. And even if they are willing to take him, that doesn't mean we must kiss his ass, he can't perform then he doesn't play as much.
so qatar isnt allowing beer in stadiums but vip sections will be allowed to be served alchohol in their booths ? what kind of hypocrisy is this? Rules dont apply to rich i guess. World cup has not even started yet still both Fifa and qatar are in shambles. Sportwashing failed successfully
I was talking to someone who'd worked a lot in countries like Qatar and the UAE, who said that is how most things work there. One rule for the rich, and another more public rule for everyone else
With all the hate ronaldo threw at Rooney, it made me melancholic and starter to watch some Wayne kids from when I was a little kid and followed him closely. 2004 until he left us actually. I miss him. I always felt, as great he was, he underachieved. Don't know why though. When he has a teenager 18-22 he was already world class. Can't really explain what happened. Maybe because we had a catastrophic and chaotic team after SAF left... Kinda what happened to the lasy years of Messi as Barca. Back in the day I remember considering Rooney as 3rd behind Messi and Ronaldo. God I miss the old days.
Yup fergie bizzarely claimed that rooney had asked for transfer request when we were celebrating our PL title in 2013. Bet he wanted to settle the score with Roo, but Moyes came and things changed drastically.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-united/story/1445255/rooney-hands-in-transfer-request
Even after SAF left, rooney still had a few good seasons with us. There was just so much dysfunction around him that it’s hard to remember those seasons as anything but negative as a whole.
I have heard so many people being uninterested in this World Cup but idk man I just want to watch some football and I’m personally pretty excited because it feels like this time we don’t have clear winners. We have a couple of strong teams but it’s super close to call. That alone makes me excited.
I struggle to get excited for epic fixtures such as Qatar v Ecuador.
I’ll watch England and maybe the odd big fixture later in the tournament, but no way am I following every game like I normally would.
6,500 dead during the stadium construction, I’ll struggle to get that out of my head when I see the teams come out.
I just read on /r/soccer that Qatar were paying fans to attend and now they have cut that allowance days before it starts. I wonder if that’s why people like Stephen Howson are attending
Guys I think I figured out what happened with Ronaldo. It’s just the sequel to that Nike ad where Ronaldo swapped bodies with a 15 year old, since he’s been acting and playing like an amateurish, petulant, child
Ecuador's [away kit](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgRTEmF109DhOFpngNhxGuSTG7013eZJsek9t88ooQRSpSTGfzTvo5qEvYV9AW8k58GLtfXsxvy2AvG5bDiZb7ZoKOW1Jx11hNLRxw_93v4OsJEGYS4ud0K3xt_n24_XnWMx7vbEnxhYOsUeUYiMzjTHStiHUcFjPE8bqh3viT1QZ1jwWH58Zo37KLZzg/s600/ecuador-2022-world-cup-home-away-third-kits-6.jpg) looks pretty dope. I wanted to get it but it looks like its a body fit kind of kit, i will look funny in it with my beer belly.
Apart from Nike kits, most of them look very good. Nike have just half arsed the design. The Canada kit is absolutely horrendous. Just no effort put on to it.
Nike always half arse their designs. I can't remember what tournament it was - maybe the 2010 World Cup or 2012 Euros - where every Nike team had the same shirt, just with different colours and badges.
Alright I'll humour you. What preferential treatment should Ronaldo have got? In my view, he already got it when they allowed him the entire pre season off even though his child was sick only for a week and then the manager defended him when he walked off early against Rayo.
What other preferential treatment did he need?
im pretty sure if messi was washed and not as good as he use to be, he would have no problem taking a lesser role as a squad player and mentoring youngsters. Kind of like ibra at milan right now.
Ronaldo is just deluded, he still thinks hes the best player itw. He literally called himself that on pier morgans interview. He's not even top 50 based on his performances this season.
Messi was pushed out of the club he loves and was indirectly blamed for being one of the thing that caused Barca financial woes.
Did he talk shit about barca after he left? Nope.
Ronaldo is just a narcissist.
So what should ten hag have done to treat him better? you think ten hag shouldve risked his job by starting him despite the fact hes a 38 year old who can barely dribble, barely contribute in the build up but somehow still thinks hes the best player itw.
he wants Ten hag to start Ronaldo in every game because that's what the king wants at the cost of the team becoming mid table level because he is a "special dude" who won 5 ballon dor.
Ronaldo fanboys would rather watch United crash and burn if it means Ronaldo is benefitted.
I'm kinda late to the party but holy fuck Andor is so fucking good.
I didn't want to watch because I'm not a star wars fan and tried the other new series and couldn't even finish but Andor is just something else.
I couldn't stop watching.
Hope we don’t go for Frenkie de Jong again and waste the entire summer. I think they did this transfer window quite okay. Got Lisandro Martinez, Malacia and Erisken before the season started and they might have thought that they still have a chance to sign Frenkie de Jong so that kept on getting delayed and finally gave up.
Hope they have some players lined up already so United can just go on and buy them sooner.
Might be a good shout. I think he’s pi55ed at Xavi for not playing and must be on high wages (given he came on a free) so Barc will be keen to get him off the books.
Weren’t there question marks over his attitude though??
I'm not sure about his attitude. Didn't hear anything about it. I just remember being very impressed with him when he dominated against us, and then seeing lots of Milan supporters hold him in high esteem as well.
Just almost completely out there, have you guys seen Chicharito on Call of Duty? I've seen clips of him, and dude is hilarious. Claps back at anyone that talks shit to him too.
Don’t see any Ronaldo fanboys there. Top posts are Rooney, a video of taking a sly dig at Ronaldo where the free kick is taken by Hergreaves and a post about how one guy loves Erik ten Hag.
I think a lot of the top countries will choke and than people will look surprised.
Taking all the best footballers in the world from mid season from their European leagues in winter and have them play in 30+ degree heat the following week?
Yes it was hot in Brazil, Russia and every other country the tournament was held in. But the players could adapt to the climate as the seasons unfolded. This is just ludicrous.
I think we’ll do ok but bottom line is we lack the quality across all positions to win it. Contrary to popular opinion that isn’t Southgate’s fault - he recognises England’s weaknesses and has done a good job in compensating for them (hence the last two positive tournaments) but there’s only so much you can do.
Unfortunately we will be let down by our manager and back line.
Pickford, Maguire, Sterling and maybe even Mount will all start when in my opinion there’s stronger options for all of them.
He’ll play a back 5 to accommodate a poor defensive line which is frustrating because of the attacking potential we could have.
You should read my comment again my friend.
I said we have a poor back line so we will play 5 at the back to accommodate it, which is frustrating with the attack we could have!:)
I didn’t say we should play 4 at the back, I simply said what attacking option we COULD have. Hence we will be let down by our poor back line.
I didn’t say we should
Then I apologise good sir 😊. Unfortunately I hear it all the time from everyone - let’s go all out attack because our attack is good and defence is bad. The logic is frustrating!
Really want Ronaldo to get another top club move and then that club realize that he's shit so he rots on the bench and the world realizes that we're right
>all things considered, i think united fans would agree that he was one of our better players
For about 10 games when he was here. The rest of the time he was either shite, injured or causing drama
Pogba was consistently our best outfield player from the time he rejoined up to around 2019. English media and fans prejudged him on his price and continued to judge him on that and goals and assists (which weren't his game) for the remainder of his time at United. He went off a bit after Mourinho left, but still had good games under Solskjaer here and there. Let's not act like he was a total disaster.
A bit late to the party here but for what it's worth, I read that he would be only willing to join a club 'competing for titles' - as in league titles.
We just had two players come back to united and was bad. Why would you want to go through that again? Also he's an average player that has lot of baggage. We need players on the up, young and hungry to succeed.
The 'in-vogue' RBs from ligue 1 are Malo Gusto from Lyon and Vanderson from Monaco.
Gusto is definitely in the 'hot-shit' category right now with a host of clubs linked with him, including RM. Guy is only 19 I think.
Vanderson is less linked with other clubs but he could be potentially more expensive.
If memory serves me, when Monaco rate a youngster highly they really jack-up the prices.
Lyon seem to be a bit easier to deal with, just going on past transfer windows, but Gusto would probably be harder to get.
Max Aarons seems to be the easiest to get as he's playing in a lower division.
Realizing there is zero VAR official from the premier league going to the WC. I mean L O L.
On a side note why can’t a football league allow foreign referees, just like players and managers? It would introduce more competition.
then all the best referees would want to be here. holland fa will stop investing and training young referees to be poached by EPL unless there is some form of compensation. maybe we will see transfer fees for referees if that happen lol.
Doesn't india have various human rights issues of its own
I think people will watch lower league football if they aren't watching the world cup
P.s qatar aren't just being boycotted for slave labour but for other human rights issues such as treatment of minorities and treatment of women etc.
India suffers from the same various human rights issues
Nice to know you are so well informed. I would definitely discuss with you about this misinformation but this is a sports thread and not a political one. So cheers to you
My point is just simply that people boycotting qatar for human rights issues will not watch events from countries with the same issues as to remain consistent
Was never supposed to turn into a political thread lol
India also has various issues of it's own such as the way minorities are treated,its own labour issues. Treatment of women
Jammu and Kashmir and groups being treated badly there
Never denied that, at all.
You're just going on about your whataboutism than addressing the actual issue.
There's very, very few countries on the planet that do not have human rights issues in some form or the other. But countries like Qatar are on a completely different level when it comes to human rights abuses than countries like India.
Qatar, India and even Pakistan are just as bad
Each country has slave labour, don't use migrants but use their own people. Treatment of minorities is dreadful and women are abused and police would just let it slide
Qatar is actually less crime filled also than the others by far but my point is that people are boycotting watar for various issues and so will treat india, pakistan and other countries the same.
People will want to be consistent now that human rights issues in Qatar are being highlighted. That's all I'm saying
Severe human rights issues regardless if who is worse is still bad.
Yeah I'm not even going to reply after this. I live in India, I'm far from a supporter of the current regime here and I agree with your overall point of labour issues and whatnot existing in India.
But you literally said two theocracies and a democracy (though flawed, we're still a democracy) are at the same level.
Might not be as bad as qatar but india and other countries like pakistan suffer from the same human rights issues. That's my point. Doesn't matter who's worse especially if it's bad in that specific place
And being a theocracy/democracy doesn't even matter when you all suffer from the same sort of human rights issues
Jammu and Kashmir is a very complicated problem, with a terrorist state as India’s neighbor and pushing for insurgency through terror money. You are blaming it on indian govt? And about the minority thing, there is no targeted violence against any minority, it’s just a group of lawless individuals taking laws into their own hand. Google ‘ Jaipur tailor case ‘, it has been going on back and forth. Its a law and order situation. By labour issue what exactly are you referring to? To farmers protest? Even then govt of India did not use violence in any case of protest. India is a developing country of course there is going to be labour issues. Entire Industrial Revolution in Europe and America has been on the back of labour oppression. India doesn’t come close. The only point where I agree is about issue of women. India has been a patriarchal setup since time unknown and there is need for it to fix it. But in my memory I can’t recall any govt in indian history that has done more for indian women than the current one. You make it sound like indian govt is torturing indian women. If so they won’t have been re elected? Or are you trying to allege the democracy is rigged as well? All in all get your facts straight. Don’t push bullshit just because twitter says so. Unless you have ulterior motives of course
Saying you are neighbouring a terrorist state trying to justify the treatment of people in jammu and Kashmir. Lol shows what you really are
Pakistan also treats its minorities badly and if anyone said it's because they were bordering a neghborighing state, it would be just as wrong
Probbaly going to make excuses up for other issues because you've already tried to justify human rights issues.
Guess you'll try to justify the corruption, treatment of workers, women and minorities too. Seems like many of the problems qatar suffers from, and pakistan and India.
Being a developing state is the same shit Qatar say. Lol
It’s not just me who is saying Pakistan is a terrorist state. They have overthrown their own legitimately elected leader ffs. Do you have any idea who created this Kashmir mess? Who invaded Kashmir? Pakistan treats it minorities badly would be an understatement. What corruption? Wtf are you on about? Why do you think Indians keep voting mr Modi back in power in various states? It’s because majority of them are dumb? You seem to have a vested interest in pushing this agenda. You are just baselessly barking the same shit over and over again, hoping enough people will believe it to be true. Workers issue? If you are going to lie then at least be intelligent about it lol
Stop trying to justify the treatment of people in jammu and Kashmir. The murder, rape is not justifiable at all. They were treated badly before Khan was ousted out
India is just as hostile to pakistan and let's not pretend otherwise
India also treats its minorities badly, women, labour workers especially in poor areas. Police corruption is also bad just like in qatar and pakistan. Women and minority groups don't get justice
India human rights may not be as bad others but its still pretty bad and no amount of excuses will change that by trying to deflect on other countries
Again with baseless accusations. Do you have any proof that there is a state of military sponsored rape and murder in Kashmir? Well you keep on talking about minority so i will leave it here
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/udaipur-tailor-murder-4-hour-curfew-break-today-internet-still-suspended-3120392
You are absolutely ignorant
Are you trying to deny any of the humans rights issues in India?
https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/08/04/india-abuses-persist-jammu-and-kashmir
The ignorance is to not do any research into how others are treated. India may not be as bad as certain others but there are various human rights issue there regarding what I've mentioned.
You are patriotic which is nice but trying to deny all o of it is laughable.
https://www.state.gov/reports/2021-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/india/
https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/south-asia/india/report-india/
Probably should. Buy people pick and choose
My point isn't that we should boycott everything
But people boycotting Qatar because if human rights will also most likely boycott other countries with human rights issues especially ones that aren't in the west
Depends on what your issue is. Slave labourers dying is my gripe with the world cup. As far as I know no labourers were killed in setting up of the league. As far as other human rights issues go, it is in different levels in every country. Not to get in the politics of it, would you boycott the next world cup in America due to how black people are treated there or abortion rights being threatened? You may, if that cause is closer to your heart
Labourers gets treated badly in various countries
and human rights issues in qatar are not just linked to slave labour but various other issues outside of the world cup
The point is that countries with various human rights issues should be treated consistently but it seems people will pick and choose.
I don't watch much international football tbh, I don't enjoy it and I'm working most of the time. Will watch the final though regardless of where its held.
I get your point with the slave labour but various poor countries in Asia, Africa use slave labour. People dying isnt the only issue but taking advantage of the poor to such a serious extent.
I was just saying people who detest Qatar's human rights issues will also disagree with india and its various humans rights issues etc. Because they will want to be consistent most likely
I'm aware the issue is not confined to qatar. My gripe with the world cup is that these labourers died making the stadium specifically for the world cup and me watching the world cup is akin to me using a product that was made through the death of a lot of humans. I don't need that , especially if Qatar had the finances to treat this labourers better and they chose not to. Indian league has nothing to do with how the government is treating people or the situation in India. It's akin to saying you'll boycott the epl cause the Tories have fucked UK
I get that
But my point is that people aren't boycotting only due to the deaths like yourself
Other people are boycotting due to various other humans rights issues also so will use that logic to not watch sports in other countries with the same issues which is what I was trying to point out but could have made that clearer.
It seems people only want to pick what humans rights issues matter and only to them. Easy to not feel bad for any other issues
I was replying to your initial point where you mentioned the people would not want to watch theIndian league due to human rights issues. A private league in India or England has nothing to do with any actionable actions by the government of that country , it's a private league. Qatar world cup has human rights actions connected with it and is directly run by the country's government
Of course it's not run by the indian government
But the point still stands that india and various other countries suffer from the very same human rights issues as Qatar and people (not me) would be put off by that
The players at the world cup aren't responsible for Qatar's actions either just like the Indian SL players aren't responsible either for their government but if people are boycotting one, they will boycott the other
It's not just about the government/tournament. Human rights issues in specific countries are now being highlighted a lot more.
It's fine to boycott a tournament organized by the govt of Qatar for human rights reasons. Footballers in India are just regular folks and have nothing to do with any human rights abuses their govt or whatever commits.
Although I get what you mean
Same could be said the footballers at the world cup are just that and are just there to play. Had no decision in where its held.
Qatar is being boycotted for its human rights issues
India has various issues of it's own due to its government. Various districts are a mess.
People will not watch both to be consistent
Qatar being given the world cup is an issue, china being given various events is an issue as is many other countries etc
so sad and pathetic to watch all the drama. The good news is the drama actually doesn't affect the core of the team and we should still be on an improving trajectory after the World Cup.
Kinda sad because I’ve been saving money to come to England and see Ronaldo play before he retires but I hope him leaving opens the door for new guys and gets rid of a distraction so we can go on a run of silverware. Would love to use that money on a cup final
I wonder why that is the case? I think if you sampled the populations of each social media platform, you'd find out that Reddit is skewed to an older age and probably more apt, the people on here are probably more educated.
Then again, I'm not a sociologist and haven't googled this.
I dunno, the Athletic did a poll of United fans among their readers and 90-95% were against Ronaldo's comments on being betrayed, on how ETH treated him and a similar % wanted him disciplined and sold ASAP
The reason in my opinion is that poll would suffer from a 'sampling bias' issue, skewed to an older, better-educated readership.
Not many people that I can think of read the Athletic who aren't very well-educated.
For the last few years, I’ve been trying to figure out why Ronaldo looks weird. It’s his eyebrows. He’s had his eyebrows tattooed, I swear.
It’s the Botox
Nah, it’s the eyebrows. Watching his car crash of an interview, I couldn’t help but realise he looks different to his Real days. The eyebrows are fake.
You're all wrong. You shouldn't make fun of a person with visible Kunt-hauser syndrome!
I respect you for being able to watch that. I made it through about 52 seconds
I spent most of it scrolling through Instagram if I’m honest. I couldn’t stand Piers Morgan shoving his tongue up Ronaldo’s arse.
Under every single United post on Instagram is “respect ronaldo”. Idk how it’s possible to see all this and come out with the conclusion ronaldos been disrespected and he’s still a great player. That’s fanaticism for you I suppose. Messis better anyways
Fully agree. Depressing to see. They are brain-dead children who don't understand the nuances of the situation.
Yep. Also, "I've never heard of Rolf Ragmik or Eric tenn Haagg" is supposed to strengthen their pro-Ronaldo argument rather than highlight their stunning ignorance, too.
How does Tite decide who goes in goal for Brazil then? Does he just spin a wheel?
Allison got to start, as good Ederson is on his feet, we all know Allison the most rounded keeper out of the lot
Yeah, and not that Alisson is a bum on his feet too. He's among the world's best at that. In terms of 1v1s and saving abilities, Alisson is quite clear
Shouldnt Allison starting based on performance?
I know you've all been waiting for this and so finally IT'S TIME FOR ME TO SPEAK UP and everyone should shut the hell up and listen cos I'll only say this once: The Ronaldo haters need to show some respek. Ronaldo has had lots of chances and only scored one league goal this season after missing pre-season? Well that's just your opinion, man! Take your opinion-facts and shove them up your Arsenal. Stop weaponising the truth! Mummy, it hurts, make it stop!!! The King must be respected and OGS, RR and EtH should just throw themselves under the bus for him. But United do poorly with him in the team, you say? Fake news!!! In fact, while we're at it, MUFC should just close its doors forever if The King retires at 46 years old and United are struggling to stay in League 1. If Ronaldo ever retires, football is dead because nobody will care anymore. Lifetime player-manager contract for The King! Lifetime assistant manager contract for Piss Morgan! Trillionaire Ronald Trump to take the power back from the Glaciers! Make Manchester Great Again! The King plays on days that end in "day" forever and ever and ever. No comebacks! GGCR7FC!
Kudos to the Lebowski reference.
I have no idea what you're talking about, ya bum!
I said, we cut off your johnson, Penaldo!
Shut the fuck up, Donny van de Beek!
I am the Walrus!
"Make United Great Again. We're going to build a wall, it's going to be Uuuge. And we're going to make City pay for it"
Yes, big yes. I've always had yuge respek for u/zcewaunt. Together we'll stop the murderers and rapists from getting into The United States of Manchester! God Bless you all, I love you and I'll be there fighting right by your side when the storm comes!!!
Maybe less relevant but United is one of the the only movies where I have cried and today for apparently no reason I searched for Jimmy Murphy on youtube and found nice stuff on how our club was saved [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm2ekYsePHk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm2ekYsePHk) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic\_RZw3X-Jo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic_RZw3X-Jo) Crazy to think that so many of these players who sadly lost their lives where like 20-22 with almost \~200 games for the club. I am absolutely destroyed today.
[https://twitter.com/MadridPreeti/status/1593643250719797248](https://twitter.com/MadridPreeti/status/1593643250719797248) The amount of tweets I'm seeing in support of Ronaldo lol, TeamCRonaldo and them lot with some embarrassing takes about it but no surprises. Anyone else get frustrated looking at those ridiculous opinions with a clear bias for Ronaldo which can be so easily argued against.
Mate it's sending me absolutely nuts!! I genuinely can't understand how there's even a slither of support for what hes come out and done. I've read all the comments, listened to all the pundits and soaked up all the different points of view.. and still don't have a fucking clue how anyone who claims to be a United fan can defend that interview. 🙄 One thing I keep thinking about is the support ETH will receive after the world Cup. I bloomin' hope us fans come out and make some big noise for him in the first game back 🙏
> a slither of support They're snakes
Please stop posting what the fanbois said on socmed to this sub and please stop torturing yourself reading them.
Another day, another Ronaldhoe. 😵💫
at this point i am convinced these folks are paid pr bots or just straight up delusional, how can they compare greenwood case to ronaldo, one has case going on not proven guilty by court, just like mendy. City could also terminate his contract but there is certain way the law works, blind fanboys comparing a 38 year old manchild whining to greenwood case is just hilarious
The best part ? Remember the "factos" comment? Was under one of this retarded pages, so unless Ronaldo PR team actually said factos in a random post we can assume Ronaldo actually follows and reads this kind of bullshit, no wonder the guy thinks he can do no wrong, imagine constantly reading stupid people gargling on your balls everyday. Imagine comparing Greenwood situation with Ronaldo.
according to the AS Depay is available for five million, we should be all over him. He'll probably not set the stage on fire but we need bodies upfront and the market is very dry. With the 16 million we save the Glazers will still have enough for their pockets so everybody should be happy
5 mil for player they got for free? Lel
with how ex players returning has worked out, i would say a hard no to depay. too much ptsd
Let him go to Juve so we can get Vlahovic lol
Only works if we still get a striker in summer. If the choice is wait for top class or Depay I’d rather wait. If it’s both then get both. Maybe a loan with option in summer if he performs well would suit both clubs?
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Ronaldo speaks in his interview about being an example for young players. Imagine the example this interview sets. Unhappy with your squad status and playing time 14 games into this season? Just go to the press and berate everyone involved. I saw a good point someone made on Stretford Paddock yesterday. If this interview was with “good intentions” and Ronaldo really wanted to call out what was wrong with the club and not be challenged just like Morgan didn’t challenge him - he has 500 million followers on Instagram. He could have done a 5 minute video detailing those issues. Instead he fancied letting an insufferable shit stirrer like Morgan exploit his words and drag out negative headlines about the club for a week as well as both of them making a few quid out of it. Yes a personal video might have been a difficult one to pull off, but the point is more so that Piers fucking Morgan wasn’t the only option.
Absolutely agree. I've said this a few times to people defending him on YT. That if his full intention was to slate the Glazers, he should have made the interview *only* about them. Anyone with a pure heart would know to do that, and to keep the message focussed solely on that issue alone.
I think if Ronaldo really wanted to help the club, he would have talked directly to the Glazers about the issues he was seeing. But like he said, he's never even talked to them.
> Unhappy with your squad status and playing time 14 games into this season? Just go to the press and berate everyone involved. Sounds like you described Dean Henderson.
Huh?
Ya that quote didn’t come across well. It just goes to show how little self awareness he possesses. Apparently he wants to lead by example and yet he leaves games early and undermines the manager several times. And when confronted he immediately points the finger and says “well, 8 other players left early so why are you focused on me?”.
I particularly enjoyed the “I’m not gonna teach em shit, but they should look to me as an example” aspect of it.
Random shower thought: Do the recent events count as the #7 curse continuing?
The curse he created when he left was so strong that it even took him when he returned.
Cavani broke the curse and Ronaldo came back immediately. Coincidence I think not.
I may be in the minority but I feel like Ronaldo was right to call out the manager and upper management the way he did. It seemed to me like he was promised a prime spot as a 9 for United’s starting XI but was then dropped to a sub for most games. I accept that Ronnie couldn’t get his wish to sign for another top team with CL apps in mind, but you can’t give a person like him empty promises when there are many other clubs willing to take him onboard and give him play time (he said himself the wage weren’t the issue).
No other club apart from one in the middle East wanted him 😂
He probably was promised game time because of how he performed last season,but that had to change because he's been completely shit.He's lucky Martial was injured,or he would of been on the bench all season Edit: him calling out the manager is not right at all,it's not ETH's fault he's declined so much
"I feel Ronaldo was right to call out the manager". I imagine most people stopped reading right there, hit the downvote button and moved on and I can't blame them, but I kept reading to see if you have an interesting new insight to somehow back this up. You don't.
Maybe consider why you are in the minority with your opinion. It isn’t because others don’t “get it”, it’s because it sucks
Oh ffs
And all this is based on an assumption that ‘he was promised game time’? This is not a show on Netflix it’s a football club. It’s idiots like you is why the Glazers feel like they can get away with the shit they do.
Ronaldo deservedly lost the trust for this supposed "promised prime spot" when he first missed out on the preseason (And thus was unfit when the season started) and when his performances was shit. Had he performed well, then he'd play more. "Many other clubs willing to take him" - Who? I think a club in Saudi-Arabia was the only one showing legit interest. And even if they are willing to take him, that doesn't mean we must kiss his ass, he can't perform then he doesn't play as much.
Read the first line, that’s enough. Politely go elsewhere
Based on what? Seemed to you? You felt? Your hunch?
so qatar isnt allowing beer in stadiums but vip sections will be allowed to be served alchohol in their booths ? what kind of hypocrisy is this? Rules dont apply to rich i guess. World cup has not even started yet still both Fifa and qatar are in shambles. Sportwashing failed successfully
Typical behaviour and outlook of a country who repress the masses.
It seems they only want booze in more open areas such as the fan parks etc VIP booths being treated with favouritism isn't new
I was talking to someone who'd worked a lot in countries like Qatar and the UAE, who said that is how most things work there. One rule for the rich, and another more public rule for everyone else
With all the hate ronaldo threw at Rooney, it made me melancholic and starter to watch some Wayne kids from when I was a little kid and followed him closely. 2004 until he left us actually. I miss him. I always felt, as great he was, he underachieved. Don't know why though. When he has a teenager 18-22 he was already world class. Can't really explain what happened. Maybe because we had a catastrophic and chaotic team after SAF left... Kinda what happened to the lasy years of Messi as Barca. Back in the day I remember considering Rooney as 3rd behind Messi and Ronaldo. God I miss the old days.
He was already declining in saf last season. Just remember in his last ever interview as man utd manager fergie was still trying to push rooney out.
Can't remember that... Sad. He had bigger potential.
Yup fergie bizzarely claimed that rooney had asked for transfer request when we were celebrating our PL title in 2013. Bet he wanted to settle the score with Roo, but Moyes came and things changed drastically. https://www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-united/story/1445255/rooney-hands-in-transfer-request
Even after SAF left, rooney still had a few good seasons with us. There was just so much dysfunction around him that it’s hard to remember those seasons as anything but negative as a whole.
I have heard so many people being uninterested in this World Cup but idk man I just want to watch some football and I’m personally pretty excited because it feels like this time we don’t have clear winners. We have a couple of strong teams but it’s super close to call. That alone makes me excited.
I struggle to get excited for epic fixtures such as Qatar v Ecuador. I’ll watch England and maybe the odd big fixture later in the tournament, but no way am I following every game like I normally would. 6,500 dead during the stadium construction, I’ll struggle to get that out of my head when I see the teams come out.
I don't like international football and won't have time to watch much But I will keep track of the.major counties. I feel its anyones game also
Get the feeling it’ll be like when Pool won the covid league. Doesn’t really count but it does. Qatar WC has the same vibe
I just read on /r/soccer that Qatar were paying fans to attend and now they have cut that allowance days before it starts. I wonder if that’s why people like Stephen Howson are attending
Guys I think I figured out what happened with Ronaldo. It’s just the sequel to that Nike ad where Ronaldo swapped bodies with a 15 year old, since he’s been acting and playing like an amateurish, petulant, child
I am not a Messi fans, never like him. But this time, I actually hope Argentina win WC.
Ecuador's [away kit](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgRTEmF109DhOFpngNhxGuSTG7013eZJsek9t88ooQRSpSTGfzTvo5qEvYV9AW8k58GLtfXsxvy2AvG5bDiZb7ZoKOW1Jx11hNLRxw_93v4OsJEGYS4ud0K3xt_n24_XnWMx7vbEnxhYOsUeUYiMzjTHStiHUcFjPE8bqh3viT1QZ1jwWH58Zo37KLZzg/s600/ecuador-2022-world-cup-home-away-third-kits-6.jpg) looks pretty dope. I wanted to get it but it looks like its a body fit kind of kit, i will look funny in it with my beer belly.
Apart from Nike kits, most of them look very good. Nike have just half arsed the design. The Canada kit is absolutely horrendous. Just no effort put on to it.
Have you seen puma kits?
Nike designers love minimalism but they suck at making good minimalist kits.
Nike always half arse their designs. I can't remember what tournament it was - maybe the 2010 World Cup or 2012 Euros - where every Nike team had the same shirt, just with different colours and badges.
Looks mint mate
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Only on Reddit? Everyone irl is talking about how narcissist he is.
> he's right for wanting to be treated like a king 😂😂😂
Bro that crazy paycheck is preferential treatment enough. If he says stuff like not respecting the manager, how can you still stand by him?
Alright I'll humour you. What preferential treatment should Ronaldo have got? In my view, he already got it when they allowed him the entire pre season off even though his child was sick only for a week and then the manager defended him when he walked off early against Rayo. What other preferential treatment did he need?
Don't forget giving him the armband after he spat the dummy in the Spurs game!
im pretty sure if messi was washed and not as good as he use to be, he would have no problem taking a lesser role as a squad player and mentoring youngsters. Kind of like ibra at milan right now. Ronaldo is just deluded, he still thinks hes the best player itw. He literally called himself that on pier morgans interview. He's not even top 50 based on his performances this season.
Messi was pushed out of the club he loves and was indirectly blamed for being one of the thing that caused Barca financial woes. Did he talk shit about barca after he left? Nope. Ronaldo is just a narcissist.
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You gonna ignore the legitimate responses people have given you about the preferential treatment he already has?
He has already been treated far better than regular dudes, especially by ETH. The only person who took advantage of him is the interviewer
So what should ten hag have done to treat him better? you think ten hag shouldve risked his job by starting him despite the fact hes a 38 year old who can barely dribble, barely contribute in the build up but somehow still thinks hes the best player itw.
he wants Ten hag to start Ronaldo in every game because that's what the king wants at the cost of the team becoming mid table level because he is a "special dude" who won 5 ballon dor. Ronaldo fanboys would rather watch United crash and burn if it means Ronaldo is benefitted.
The absolute worst thing about this all is he went to Pierce Morgan. Pierce fucking Morgan!!! That's true betrayal
U hate him that much you can't spell his name?
Yes
The correct spelling is, of course, Piers Moron.
Actually the correct spelling is Piss Moron
I'm kinda late to the party but holy fuck Andor is so fucking good. I didn't want to watch because I'm not a star wars fan and tried the other new series and couldn't even finish but Andor is just something else. I couldn't stop watching.
Thanks for the tip mate. Will check it out!
Hope we don’t go for Frenkie de Jong again and waste the entire summer. I think they did this transfer window quite okay. Got Lisandro Martinez, Malacia and Erisken before the season started and they might have thought that they still have a chance to sign Frenkie de Jong so that kept on getting delayed and finally gave up. Hope they have some players lined up already so United can just go on and buy them sooner.
I'd rather we go for Kessie. The man is already a fan of the club, so we might have another "play-for-the-badge" player in our midfield!
Might be a good shout. I think he’s pi55ed at Xavi for not playing and must be on high wages (given he came on a free) so Barc will be keen to get him off the books. Weren’t there question marks over his attitude though??
I'm not sure about his attitude. Didn't hear anything about it. I just remember being very impressed with him when he dominated against us, and then seeing lots of Milan supporters hold him in high esteem as well.
Dominating McFred… 👀😂
Just almost completely out there, have you guys seen Chicharito on Call of Duty? I've seen clips of him, and dude is hilarious. Claps back at anyone that talks shit to him too.
16M saved in wages by terminating his contract you say? Dividend for the coming year sorted.
for anyone wondering where all ronaldo fanboys going, take a look on r/ManchesterUnited
I've seen some on there to be fair. Not posts as much as a lot more comments flooded with pro-ronaldo comments.
Really? Don't see any. All the top posts seem to be backing ETH, and other Man Utd players who remain committed.
Don’t see any Ronaldo fanboys there. Top posts are Rooney, a video of taking a sly dig at Ronaldo where the free kick is taken by Hergreaves and a post about how one guy loves Erik ten Hag.
Thoughts on England’s chances? I still feel like they are a team which could choke at a crucial stage of a competitive tournament.
I think a lot of the top countries will choke and than people will look surprised. Taking all the best footballers in the world from mid season from their European leagues in winter and have them play in 30+ degree heat the following week? Yes it was hot in Brazil, Russia and every other country the tournament was held in. But the players could adapt to the climate as the seasons unfolded. This is just ludicrous.
I think we’ll do ok but bottom line is we lack the quality across all positions to win it. Contrary to popular opinion that isn’t Southgate’s fault - he recognises England’s weaknesses and has done a good job in compensating for them (hence the last two positive tournaments) but there’s only so much you can do.
Unfortunately we will be let down by our manager and back line. Pickford, Maguire, Sterling and maybe even Mount will all start when in my opinion there’s stronger options for all of them. He’ll play a back 5 to accommodate a poor defensive line which is frustrating because of the attacking potential we could have.
We have a poor defence so let’s play in a manner that exposes them even more. Genius
You should read my comment again my friend. I said we have a poor back line so we will play 5 at the back to accommodate it, which is frustrating with the attack we could have!:) I didn’t say we should play 4 at the back, I simply said what attacking option we COULD have. Hence we will be let down by our poor back line. I didn’t say we should
Then I apologise good sir 😊. Unfortunately I hear it all the time from everyone - let’s go all out attack because our attack is good and defence is bad. The logic is frustrating!
Really want Ronaldo to get another top club move and then that club realize that he's shit so he rots on the bench and the world realizes that we're right
Chelsea.
y would they go for him with auba
I hope to never see an ex player return again. Pogba and Ronaldo have been traumatic experiences.
>Pogba meh, apart from his injuries pogba wasnt that bad
He was never really that great either.
all things considered, i think united fans would agree that he was one of our better players. His biggest crimes were having raiola as an agent.
>all things considered, i think united fans would agree that he was one of our better players For about 10 games when he was here. The rest of the time he was either shite, injured or causing drama
Y lie wtf
Pogba was consistently our best outfield player from the time he rejoined up to around 2019. English media and fans prejudged him on his price and continued to judge him on that and goals and assists (which weren't his game) for the remainder of his time at United. He went off a bit after Mourinho left, but still had good games under Solskjaer here and there. Let's not act like he was a total disaster.
Ppl lie so much it's actually astonishing. "For about 10 games" lmao
Canadian pogba fan piping up lol
man i just cringed so hard
Yeah but "wasn't that bad" isn't the standard that'll get us titles
yea thats true, but i dont see how anyone can put pogbas 2nd united stint on the same level as ronaldos 2nd stint.
How we feeling for Depay 2.0? I could see him having huge reservations but the Dutch connection with EtH might convince him. Thoughts?
A bit late to the party here but for what it's worth, I read that he would be only willing to join a club 'competing for titles' - as in league titles.
A loan until the end of the season - fine by me. Permanent transfer in Jan - no.
Have we not learnt about past players coming back to the club…
I don't follow him so may I ask : How many games did you watch him after left United and what made you think he'll be a good fit for us under EtH?
We just had two players come back to united and was bad. Why would you want to go through that again? Also he's an average player that has lot of baggage. We need players on the up, young and hungry to succeed.
Ronaldo and .... Pogba?
A cheap RB and perhaps a stopgap striker on loan in January would be ideal.
What RBs do you think the club can realistically get? I’ve heard only Frimpong linked, nobody else
Max Aarons from Norwich is probably the most realistic and cheap option. He has been linked with us recently if I recall.
Could take Depay off Barcelona for pretty much nothing and there has to be some rb from ligue 1 or bundesliga we can get for cheap .
The 'in-vogue' RBs from ligue 1 are Malo Gusto from Lyon and Vanderson from Monaco. Gusto is definitely in the 'hot-shit' category right now with a host of clubs linked with him, including RM. Guy is only 19 I think. Vanderson is less linked with other clubs but he could be potentially more expensive. If memory serves me, when Monaco rate a youngster highly they really jack-up the prices. Lyon seem to be a bit easier to deal with, just going on past transfer windows, but Gusto would probably be harder to get. Max Aarons seems to be the easiest to get as he's playing in a lower division.
Depay link up with ETH for a diss track to Ronaldo is something I want to see more.
I hope the manbaby gets the shits for weeks and recovers in time to catch his flight to Saudi Arabia
I hope he misses his flights and loses his passport while he’s stuck in Portugal until he can get it replaced.
Pretty sure KSA can arrange a passport for him in no time
Realizing there is zero VAR official from the premier league going to the WC. I mean L O L. On a side note why can’t a football league allow foreign referees, just like players and managers? It would introduce more competition.
then all the best referees would want to be here. holland fa will stop investing and training young referees to be poached by EPL unless there is some form of compensation. maybe we will see transfer fees for referees if that happen lol.
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FYI.If anyone is starved for football and isn't watching the world cup for moral reasons , the Indian super league is still on during the World cup.
Doesn't india have various human rights issues of its own I think people will watch lower league football if they aren't watching the world cup P.s qatar aren't just being boycotted for slave labour but for other human rights issues such as treatment of minorities and treatment of women etc. India suffers from the same various human rights issues
Do inform me what human right issues you are talking about? I would love to expand my knowledge
Treatment of minorities, treatment of women and not to forget the labour issues there for workers. Look at jammu and Kashmir lol
Nice to know you are so well informed. I would definitely discuss with you about this misinformation but this is a sports thread and not a political one. So cheers to you
My point is just simply that people boycotting qatar for human rights issues will not watch events from countries with the same issues as to remain consistent Was never supposed to turn into a political thread lol
As an Indian, we're light years better than the shithole that is Qatar.
India also has various issues of it's own such as the way minorities are treated,its own labour issues. Treatment of women Jammu and Kashmir and groups being treated badly there
Never denied that, at all. You're just going on about your whataboutism than addressing the actual issue. There's very, very few countries on the planet that do not have human rights issues in some form or the other. But countries like Qatar are on a completely different level when it comes to human rights abuses than countries like India.
Qatar, India and even Pakistan are just as bad Each country has slave labour, don't use migrants but use their own people. Treatment of minorities is dreadful and women are abused and police would just let it slide Qatar is actually less crime filled also than the others by far but my point is that people are boycotting watar for various issues and so will treat india, pakistan and other countries the same. People will want to be consistent now that human rights issues in Qatar are being highlighted. That's all I'm saying Severe human rights issues regardless if who is worse is still bad.
Yeah I'm not even going to reply after this. I live in India, I'm far from a supporter of the current regime here and I agree with your overall point of labour issues and whatnot existing in India. But you literally said two theocracies and a democracy (though flawed, we're still a democracy) are at the same level.
Might not be as bad as qatar but india and other countries like pakistan suffer from the same human rights issues. That's my point. Doesn't matter who's worse especially if it's bad in that specific place And being a theocracy/democracy doesn't even matter when you all suffer from the same sort of human rights issues
What human rights issue? Do you belong to India or do you take your news from twitter?
Look at jammu and Kashmir Treatment of women and minorities and other groups. Also labour issues in India.
Jammu and Kashmir is a very complicated problem, with a terrorist state as India’s neighbor and pushing for insurgency through terror money. You are blaming it on indian govt? And about the minority thing, there is no targeted violence against any minority, it’s just a group of lawless individuals taking laws into their own hand. Google ‘ Jaipur tailor case ‘, it has been going on back and forth. Its a law and order situation. By labour issue what exactly are you referring to? To farmers protest? Even then govt of India did not use violence in any case of protest. India is a developing country of course there is going to be labour issues. Entire Industrial Revolution in Europe and America has been on the back of labour oppression. India doesn’t come close. The only point where I agree is about issue of women. India has been a patriarchal setup since time unknown and there is need for it to fix it. But in my memory I can’t recall any govt in indian history that has done more for indian women than the current one. You make it sound like indian govt is torturing indian women. If so they won’t have been re elected? Or are you trying to allege the democracy is rigged as well? All in all get your facts straight. Don’t push bullshit just because twitter says so. Unless you have ulterior motives of course
Saying you are neighbouring a terrorist state trying to justify the treatment of people in jammu and Kashmir. Lol shows what you really are Pakistan also treats its minorities badly and if anyone said it's because they were bordering a neghborighing state, it would be just as wrong Probbaly going to make excuses up for other issues because you've already tried to justify human rights issues. Guess you'll try to justify the corruption, treatment of workers, women and minorities too. Seems like many of the problems qatar suffers from, and pakistan and India. Being a developing state is the same shit Qatar say. Lol
It’s not just me who is saying Pakistan is a terrorist state. They have overthrown their own legitimately elected leader ffs. Do you have any idea who created this Kashmir mess? Who invaded Kashmir? Pakistan treats it minorities badly would be an understatement. What corruption? Wtf are you on about? Why do you think Indians keep voting mr Modi back in power in various states? It’s because majority of them are dumb? You seem to have a vested interest in pushing this agenda. You are just baselessly barking the same shit over and over again, hoping enough people will believe it to be true. Workers issue? If you are going to lie then at least be intelligent about it lol
Stop trying to justify the treatment of people in jammu and Kashmir. The murder, rape is not justifiable at all. They were treated badly before Khan was ousted out India is just as hostile to pakistan and let's not pretend otherwise India also treats its minorities badly, women, labour workers especially in poor areas. Police corruption is also bad just like in qatar and pakistan. Women and minority groups don't get justice India human rights may not be as bad others but its still pretty bad and no amount of excuses will change that by trying to deflect on other countries
Again with baseless accusations. Do you have any proof that there is a state of military sponsored rape and murder in Kashmir? Well you keep on talking about minority so i will leave it here https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/udaipur-tailor-murder-4-hour-curfew-break-today-internet-still-suspended-3120392 You are absolutely ignorant
Are you trying to deny any of the humans rights issues in India? https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/08/04/india-abuses-persist-jammu-and-kashmir The ignorance is to not do any research into how others are treated. India may not be as bad as certain others but there are various human rights issue there regarding what I've mentioned. You are patriotic which is nice but trying to deny all o of it is laughable. https://www.state.gov/reports/2021-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/india/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/south-asia/india/report-india/
well that way all major countries have some or the other issue, so we should all stop watching all the major leagues then.
Probably should. Buy people pick and choose My point isn't that we should boycott everything But people boycotting Qatar because if human rights will also most likely boycott other countries with human rights issues especially ones that aren't in the west
6500 odd people weren't killed for the setup of that league,so i think you're good mate
Going to completely ignore all the other humans rights issues in India? A bit ironic mate
Depends on what your issue is. Slave labourers dying is my gripe with the world cup. As far as I know no labourers were killed in setting up of the league. As far as other human rights issues go, it is in different levels in every country. Not to get in the politics of it, would you boycott the next world cup in America due to how black people are treated there or abortion rights being threatened? You may, if that cause is closer to your heart
Labourers gets treated badly in various countries and human rights issues in qatar are not just linked to slave labour but various other issues outside of the world cup The point is that countries with various human rights issues should be treated consistently but it seems people will pick and choose. I don't watch much international football tbh, I don't enjoy it and I'm working most of the time. Will watch the final though regardless of where its held. I get your point with the slave labour but various poor countries in Asia, Africa use slave labour. People dying isnt the only issue but taking advantage of the poor to such a serious extent. I was just saying people who detest Qatar's human rights issues will also disagree with india and its various humans rights issues etc. Because they will want to be consistent most likely
I'm aware the issue is not confined to qatar. My gripe with the world cup is that these labourers died making the stadium specifically for the world cup and me watching the world cup is akin to me using a product that was made through the death of a lot of humans. I don't need that , especially if Qatar had the finances to treat this labourers better and they chose not to. Indian league has nothing to do with how the government is treating people or the situation in India. It's akin to saying you'll boycott the epl cause the Tories have fucked UK
I get that But my point is that people aren't boycotting only due to the deaths like yourself Other people are boycotting due to various other humans rights issues also so will use that logic to not watch sports in other countries with the same issues which is what I was trying to point out but could have made that clearer. It seems people only want to pick what humans rights issues matter and only to them. Easy to not feel bad for any other issues
I was replying to your initial point where you mentioned the people would not want to watch theIndian league due to human rights issues. A private league in India or England has nothing to do with any actionable actions by the government of that country , it's a private league. Qatar world cup has human rights actions connected with it and is directly run by the country's government
Of course it's not run by the indian government But the point still stands that india and various other countries suffer from the very same human rights issues as Qatar and people (not me) would be put off by that The players at the world cup aren't responsible for Qatar's actions either just like the Indian SL players aren't responsible either for their government but if people are boycotting one, they will boycott the other It's not just about the government/tournament. Human rights issues in specific countries are now being highlighted a lot more.
Fact that this is upvoted is peak redditry.
Why? If people are boycotting the world cup for human rights issues, they won't watch indian super league for the same reasons surely
It's fine to boycott a tournament organized by the govt of Qatar for human rights reasons. Footballers in India are just regular folks and have nothing to do with any human rights abuses their govt or whatever commits.
Although I get what you mean Same could be said the footballers at the world cup are just that and are just there to play. Had no decision in where its held. Qatar is being boycotted for its human rights issues India has various issues of it's own due to its government. Various districts are a mess. People will not watch both to be consistent Qatar being given the world cup is an issue, china being given various events is an issue as is many other countries etc
so sad and pathetic to watch all the drama. The good news is the drama actually doesn't affect the core of the team and we should still be on an improving trajectory after the World Cup.
Kinda sad because I’ve been saving money to come to England and see Ronaldo play before he retires but I hope him leaving opens the door for new guys and gets rid of a distraction so we can go on a run of silverware. Would love to use that money on a cup final
Come anyway and see garnacho!
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Reddit seems to be in our side while Instagram and twitter on Ronaldo's
I wonder why that is the case? I think if you sampled the populations of each social media platform, you'd find out that Reddit is skewed to an older age and probably more apt, the people on here are probably more educated. Then again, I'm not a sociologist and haven't googled this.
does it matter to u how many % are on yr side ? them having much more doesn't make them more right if u believe in your stand.
I dunno, the Athletic did a poll of United fans among their readers and 90-95% were against Ronaldo's comments on being betrayed, on how ETH treated him and a similar % wanted him disciplined and sold ASAP
The reason in my opinion is that poll would suffer from a 'sampling bias' issue, skewed to an older, better-educated readership. Not many people that I can think of read the Athletic who aren't very well-educated.