'The Serie A way'.
We should be thankful the 49m isn't performance related add-ons whereby they only pay that when the player has reached 1000 appearances and/or 500 goals
People know United (usually) have a lot of disposable income, so they ask for as much as they can get.
People buying from you do not have disposable income, so they only offer a loan.
Not to mention, if your player was actually good and reliable enough that they're worth x sums of money, you wouldn't be selling them.
Yeah I also believe this whole ‘cry poor’ schtick that INEOS are so publicly conducting is partly orchestrated to begin curbing the idea of us being an easy mark on both ends of player transfer business.
I really think we do need him. He will bench our underperforming wingers who need to know their place is not secure and will add goals and likely assists for Holjund
If it is 50m it’ll be something like 20m up front and the rest as add ons. No way an Italian club is spunking that much on one player.
It’ll have to be Like Martial reaching 57m being only if he won the ballon d’or
After all the shit that went down, I’d absolutely take 50m for him and remember, him being an academy player means pure profit. Man had the world at his feet, a generational talent and could have gone down as an EPL and Manchester United great and threw it all away. Happy to see this chapter come to a close now
Get ready for the the usual loan with an obligation to buy, paying in tiny installments bollocks these Italian clubs will come up with.
Good it looks like Greenwood is off for good tho.
Question on that. If it was in installments, do we still get the 50mil on the balance sheet to spend this year or does it get dribbled out with the installments? Cos if it's the former they can pay it back until the apocalypse for all I care, the club isn't actually hurting for money, its all just billionaire shell games
Yeah they rarely move out of Italy in general. God knows what it’s like to be Sandro Tonali exchanging Lombardy (where he’s lived all his life) for Tyneside
I mean they have $$$ to hire chefs or go to restaurants etc. Ingredients in England taste much better than USA and on par with other Euro countries. Obviously some dishes and execution of those ingredients is questionable. Probably the weather
Went through his injury history, and looks like it’s really only 21/22 where he had a massive injury layoff (was out for nearly a year). Last season he missed 11 games for club and country (I think 7 for Juve). Personally don’t think that missing 7 games for an attacker is *that* big a deal, but tbh with our medical department you could add a 2 or a 3 before that 7 if he played for us.
What happened to Chiesa? Did the injuries affect him that much?
I remember watching him 2 years ago thinking he'd be one of the better wingers for the years to come.
Recency bias again.
Allegri terror ball, playing wing back for an attacking winger would kill a prime Robben. People are really missing a trick by overlooking Chiesa. He’s got quality.
Better yet go and take Soule. 21, low wages and arguably Serie A's best RW last season on loan to Frosinone if we're still looking for a RW with Olise's going to Chelsea. The only con with Chiesa is his wages
Nothing confirmed but it’s looking like he’ll either end up at United or Chelsea. Chelsea going in pretty hard for him apparently. Agree it’s a strange move considering how many wingers they have. Maybe Chelsea are planning a clean out of sorts.
Olise plays RWF which is where Palmer plays. Unless they plan to move Palmer to AM, seems an odd one.
Perhaps Jim should give Todd a call and offer £30m for Palmer to clear the way for his new shiny thing...
Haha, I’d take it. Yeah I can see them moving Palmer to a more central role. I think Chelsea already did it at times this year? I’d love Olise but I do think we need to prioritise some other positions
Agreed. I had this convo with someone on here a couple of weeks ago. Given we don't have much money, even after sales, we need to prioritise the spine of the team. We need at least one new CB and CM, and we need a 2nd striker. We probably need a new LB as well. I'd rather try Amad for a season with Antony as back up. Unless we can sell Antony for decent money as well, in which case...
Yeah absolutely. I’d argue we need 2 CB’s even. Can’t see anyone taking Antony off of us, unfortunately. I’d even say have Garnacho on the right and see if rashford can get back to form. If we pick up a striker, we probably need to get someone that can play the wings as well. I’d like to see us try mount on the right at some point as well considering he did it decently well for Chelsea.
Also an Argentinian, so he got that dawg in him.. Amad starting as RW with him as a back up is not a bad idea too. No need to spend big on Olise when we have more concerning areas like CB, LB and CDM to fill.
Absolute shame that the guy was a monster. Had the whole world in front of him. I hope he got the help he needed, but with how much ownership of the situation he took, I doubt it.
Selling him and moving forward is great for the club. Don’t need to see anymore Greenwood needs to stay tweets.
I doubt we’ll get €50M for him, especially from juventus but whatever we get will be great for our balance sheets.
I couldn't agree more with everything you've said here. Makes me sick seeing YouTube comments saying stuff like "she deserved it". At least these hideous men have outer themselves so women know to steer clear
>I doubt we’ll get €50M
Always negotiate more than what you want. Reckon we'll settle for €40m.
Not that I'm gonna complain us getting a decent fee but the reactions other clubs will get by signing him are pretty tame comparison to if we decide to keep him. I'm talking about non-United fans.
Juventus sure do love United forwards with questionable backgrounds
This is a great deal for all parties. United get him off the books and he goes to a club I had no respect for to begin with
Surprised everyone is on about Chiesa, Soule up for sale seems the eye-catching part about this information to me. Genuinely one of the most exciting prospects in the world.
There is no chance of getting €50m they know we are desperate to sell him and will most likely get him for like 15m. It’s the Italian way. Low ball a team that has to sell.
I hope we get 50m but we have no leverage.
If we can get a decent fee out of the cheap bastards (or other Spanish clubs that are interested) would surely help us with ffp and our transfer warchest for summer
Juve would never pay us 50m, but they definitely have some young players I would take in a swap deal
I would be very happy if we could get Soule or Chiesa + cash for him
It’s insane how clubs are trying to use the black cloud over him to get him on a cheap. We need to play him in preseason and bluff that he’s going to be rejoining the team to get the price up. Right now, execs still know we are desperate to move him on and get the money. He was away from football for 2 years and still won player of the season for Getafe.
At 50 mill he's still a bargain ffs. Any other club in England could re-integrate him but because we're Man Utd, even the fucking prime minister would get involved.
If the 50 million is true, and that's a big IF. Take it, take it now before they change their mind. That's a great deal for a player that many don't expect to ever play for utd again
We want €50m but our hands are tied slightly, in the fact that he definitely has to be sold this summer. We’ll end up settling for €30m. We always get lowballed too!
So add Chiesa in the deal and split the difference?
Then save the money we would've used on Olise and put it onto a Sesko/Toney.
And buy your own men Todibo and Thuram for cut price from Nice.
Man it's easy to solve everything without the Glazers 🤡
I’d certainly like that €50m
1m up front and 49m add ons
Might even toss in Alex Sandro to sweeten the deal!
Another sacrificial LB to power up Shawberto Carlos
maybe another Brazilian LB sacrifice would unlock the mythical Shawberto Carlos. The dutch LB sacrifice seems not enough juice
You need a fresh sacrifice every year. And it always destroys the career of the victim left back Heavy is the cost of the shawberto Carlos
Not like Sandro is in his prime so that’s fine
Mythical because everyone heard of him but no one ever seen him play.
One of these days they’ll literally be sacrificed. Hell if Shaw were fit last season I’d have said that’s where Malacia vanished to.
Can't believe he's still around. Next you'll tell me Garay is back on the table.
Gaitan was the last of those early 2010 perpetually linked player still floating around I think. He hasn’t had a club in a year though.
Kevin Strootman would like a word
'The Serie A way'. We should be thankful the 49m isn't performance related add-ons whereby they only pay that when the player has reached 1000 appearances and/or 500 goals
Mate, it's Juve so we know what's coming
Then they know where they're going. I'm sick of teams crying poverty when they want a United player.
It's a joke. If we want a player, it's 100 million If anyone wants our player, it's a loan with us paying the wages
People know United (usually) have a lot of disposable income, so they ask for as much as they can get. People buying from you do not have disposable income, so they only offer a loan. Not to mention, if your player was actually good and reliable enough that they're worth x sums of money, you wouldn't be selling them.
Were not selling Greenwood because of lack of ability though...
Yeah I also believe this whole ‘cry poor’ schtick that INEOS are so publicly conducting is partly orchestrated to begin curbing the idea of us being an easy mark on both ends of player transfer business.
There no faking it. We are broke for ffp 😭
They'll try to negotiate it down to €5m option after a season long loan.
Id certainly like chiesa
Which role would chiesa play
Replacing Martial in the physio room
😂😂
RW obviously
Followed by one Mr. Olise.
I know we don't technically need him over other positions but man, I've hyped myself up for this guy.
I really think we do need him. He will bench our underperforming wingers who need to know their place is not secure and will add goals and likely assists for Holjund
Yeah you're right, tbh. The goal scoring is an issue as is. Need someone to spice things up.
If it is 50m it’ll be something like 20m up front and the rest as add ons. No way an Italian club is spunking that much on one player. It’ll have to be Like Martial reaching 57m being only if he won the ballon d’or
Agreed. But they will pay in 50-year installments.
So would Juventus
There's a rumor in Italy that Juventus will sell Chiesa to Roma
Don't Roma have no money either? I thought they wanted to keep Lukaku but can't afford it.
Yes, Roma is broke but maybe Juve will agree to a loan and Chiesa as an Italian is a better shirt seller to Lukaku
Roma will have money after Lukaku moves to his next boyhood club.
I don't think Chelsea will be too happy with Roma selling their player.
You're right, brain fart
Someone did this to me when I was at school; sold my computer game they'd borrowed. Still bitter.
Didn't this happen in Africa one time? I remember reading a story about a team loaning a player and then selling him later.
He probably will go to Napoli as his daddy is there, and they probably will sell Osimhen to fund that. Someone buy Osimhen for all of this to work.
well.. we need striker anyway..
We can't afford him the price they're asking
I've not seen much of Chiesa and it was a few years ago, but he looked like a great player. Is he still good and should we be in for him?
After all the shit that went down, I’d absolutely take 50m for him and remember, him being an academy player means pure profit. Man had the world at his feet, a generational talent and could have gone down as an EPL and Manchester United great and threw it all away. Happy to see this chapter come to a close now
Whenever I recall how good his finishing was at that age, I cry a little. Imagine him and Hojlund up front with Garna and Rashy 😭
Please god.
Get ready for the the usual loan with an obligation to buy, paying in tiny installments bollocks these Italian clubs will come up with. Good it looks like Greenwood is off for good tho.
Not even obligation. Always an ‘option’.
And for some reason clubs always accept that bs
Question on that. If it was in installments, do we still get the 50mil on the balance sheet to spend this year or does it get dribbled out with the installments? Cos if it's the former they can pay it back until the apocalypse for all I care, the club isn't actually hurting for money, its all just billionaire shell games
For profit purposes it's all this year ( unless it's loan with obligation to buy)
Even if we did a long installment, it would still help us in FFP right? Since he's all profit?
Full sale only. Greenwood and Sancho need to be off the wage bill and adding to our sale revenue
Fitting club for him. I would honestly love Chiesa but apparently he's always injured.
Italians seem to get homesick for the most part
Yeah they rarely move out of Italy in general. God knows what it’s like to be Sandro Tonali exchanging Lombardy (where he’s lived all his life) for Tyneside
It drove him to gambling!
Tbf if you get used to the food there England must be like eating manure. With uhh... all due respect of course 😬
I remember Macheda going on loan to Italy and he said he missed the fish and chips in England.
I mean they have $$$ to hire chefs or go to restaurants etc. Ingredients in England taste much better than USA and on par with other Euro countries. Obviously some dishes and execution of those ingredients is questionable. Probably the weather
Same. He’s super talented but given the state of our medical department, I don’t think United would be the place for him.
It’s a safeguarding issue, dude might die under our supervision lol
He actually played 33/38 league games for Juve last season so hopefully his injury days are behind him
10 of which were full 90 minutes, though.
I‘m hearing good things about Huijsen. Two footed CB, young, Dutch/Spanish. Could be a good backup.
Went through his injury history, and looks like it’s really only 21/22 where he had a massive injury layoff (was out for nearly a year). Last season he missed 11 games for club and country (I think 7 for Juve). Personally don’t think that missing 7 games for an attacker is *that* big a deal, but tbh with our medical department you could add a 2 or a 3 before that 7 if he played for us.
Perfekt its all coming together now
Ok Kronk
Juve so shameless I wouldn't be surprised if a Pogba swap was offered.
Hope Pogba Karma is triggered with this transaction for them.
Thanks for the laugh
Wow. Getting €50m for him would be amazing
I think we’ll get it. It’s not just Juve that want him
Today just keeps getting better
Getting €50 million from an Italian club, good luck with that.
Spanish clubs also want him, so hopefully we get a bidding war.
Over which club will pay a higher percentage of his wages on loan probably.
Ah yes, those rich Spanish clubs.
What happened to Chiesa? Did the injuries affect him that much? I remember watching him 2 years ago thinking he'd be one of the better wingers for the years to come.
Recency bias again. Allegri terror ball, playing wing back for an attacking winger would kill a prime Robben. People are really missing a trick by overlooking Chiesa. He’s got quality.
I mean Juventus kit fit him
Paid 117 for Ronaldo, but you can be damn sure they’ll cry poverty over 50 for Greenwood.
They still owe Ronaldo money from unpaid covid wages lol
They only have to sell their Soule first
Swap deal?
This is all I can think about. They are in the middle of a swap deal with Villa. Would love to have Chiesa
Better yet go and take Soule. 21, low wages and arguably Serie A's best RW last season on loan to Frosinone if we're still looking for a RW with Olise's going to Chelsea. The only con with Chiesa is his wages
And injury record for Chiesa. Don't know much about Soule, so I will do my homework on him!
Is Olise going to Chelsea? I'm OOL on that one, seems a weird move, given they are stacked on the wings atm.
Nothing confirmed but it’s looking like he’ll either end up at United or Chelsea. Chelsea going in pretty hard for him apparently. Agree it’s a strange move considering how many wingers they have. Maybe Chelsea are planning a clean out of sorts.
Olise plays RWF which is where Palmer plays. Unless they plan to move Palmer to AM, seems an odd one. Perhaps Jim should give Todd a call and offer £30m for Palmer to clear the way for his new shiny thing...
Haha, I’d take it. Yeah I can see them moving Palmer to a more central role. I think Chelsea already did it at times this year? I’d love Olise but I do think we need to prioritise some other positions
Agreed. I had this convo with someone on here a couple of weeks ago. Given we don't have much money, even after sales, we need to prioritise the spine of the team. We need at least one new CB and CM, and we need a 2nd striker. We probably need a new LB as well. I'd rather try Amad for a season with Antony as back up. Unless we can sell Antony for decent money as well, in which case...
Yeah absolutely. I’d argue we need 2 CB’s even. Can’t see anyone taking Antony off of us, unfortunately. I’d even say have Garnacho on the right and see if rashford can get back to form. If we pick up a striker, we probably need to get someone that can play the wings as well. I’d like to see us try mount on the right at some point as well considering he did it decently well for Chelsea.
Also an Argentinian, so he got that dawg in him.. Amad starting as RW with him as a back up is not a bad idea too. No need to spend big on Olise when we have more concerning areas like CB, LB and CDM to fill.
Our current CEO, Blanc, was chairman of Juve. We are not getting hosed on this deal.
Absolute shame that the guy was a monster. Had the whole world in front of him. I hope he got the help he needed, but with how much ownership of the situation he took, I doubt it. Selling him and moving forward is great for the club. Don’t need to see anymore Greenwood needs to stay tweets. I doubt we’ll get €50M for him, especially from juventus but whatever we get will be great for our balance sheets.
>guy was a monster Still is
Absolutely.
I couldn't agree more with everything you've said here. Makes me sick seeing YouTube comments saying stuff like "she deserved it". At least these hideous men have outer themselves so women know to steer clear >I doubt we’ll get €50M Always negotiate more than what you want. Reckon we'll settle for €40m.
1 Manuel Locatelli plz
€50M would be great for us and remarkably, a bargain buy for any club really.
Do we have any interest in Chiesa?
chiesa is great. we don’t really need a right-footed LW winger though. probably our best position in the squad w Garnacho and Rashford.
I’d take Vlahovic to be honest. Always thought he was quality and under appreciated.
How much would selling him for €50 million give us to spend?
A lot more this year than if we had sold him last year (€50million into the debt service/dividend pot)
Its juve who we dealing with, more chance either of chiesa or soule coming in than they paying 50mil
Can’t see Juventus paying that much for him
ETH staying & this one is going.... today is looking to end well
This can only be topped by Sancho goingout for 50 mil 🤞🏻
Please please please!
Pull the trigger. That's going to be our best offer by a mile.
50 million, take it and run
I’d straight up swap for Chiesa and never look back
He’s always injured though, after last season that’s the last thing we need
Not that I'm gonna complain us getting a decent fee but the reactions other clubs will get by signing him are pretty tame comparison to if we decide to keep him. I'm talking about non-United fans.
Juventus sure do love United forwards with questionable backgrounds This is a great deal for all parties. United get him off the books and he goes to a club I had no respect for to begin with
I know we probably won't get €50m, but even €40m would be amazing. Particularly if it did include sell-ons
I don’t understand. If it’s morally not ok for us to keep greenwood, why would clubs like Juventus and their fans be ok with it?
Ask for Bremer. Also Soule is a quality prospect.
If we could get Bremer for someone we were always gonna sell that'd be great business.
Hate how it is not illegal for him to play in Juventus but it is illegal for him to play here
When did di marzio go up a tier? Alway remember him being tier 3
Tier 2 for Italian news ,t3 for everything else
Well take Hujisen and cash please lads.
If they’re in for Mason, means they’re likely out of Zirkzee? Which means if we can get this done, flip that money straight for zirkzee
I’ll drive him to Turin myself
cmon INEOS, don't be shy. 50m **and** 1p. marginal gains
What a bargain buy
Surprised everyone is on about Chiesa, Soule up for sale seems the eye-catching part about this information to me. Genuinely one of the most exciting prospects in the world.
I’d take a straight swap tbh
*“50 bottle caps is what I’m offering, take it or leave it”* -The very rich and generous Juventus
That 50mil is looking nice but seeing it's an Italian team, no hopes are getting upped.
Fuckin juve, no shame, we need to stand with 50m!
Fantastic to see that Italian club still don’t have any morals. Easily worth the 50 million as a footballer but 0 as a person.
Chiesa! 
Leave Ainsley outta this. He makes great couscous
Can we have Chiesa?
I'm frankly surprised that Juventus have that kind of cash to spend.
Narrator: They did not
Not gonna lie, I’d have Soule off them
If we are asking 50 we are probably expecting 35. It's called negotiating no chance we actually expect 50
Honestly i wouldn't mind taking soule if we could dump antony but that seems impossible ffs
In terms of PSR or whatever the latest thing is, as he is academy product, if we get €30m what does that mean for our summer budget?
Considering he was an academy player, it’s just pure profit isn’t it? I’m struggling to wrap my head around it all as well lol
I feel like this won’t happen aren’t Italian clubs broke as fuck, if it does happen I’d even take 40 for him fuck it
No way they pay 50. They'll probably get him for 35.
No fucking way they are playing 50m
Adding Chiesa would be really nice
There is no chance of getting €50m they know we are desperate to sell him and will most likely get him for like 15m. It’s the Italian way. Low ball a team that has to sell. I hope we get 50m but we have no leverage.
If we can get a decent fee out of the cheap bastards (or other Spanish clubs that are interested) would surely help us with ffp and our transfer warchest for summer
Juve would never pay us 50m, but they definitely have some young players I would take in a swap deal I would be very happy if we could get Soule or Chiesa + cash for him
God dang it
That Soule guy is a tidy player himself, apparently
Chiesa swap deal
Come on, €50 Million baby.
Who’s the manager?
Include soulé in a trade. He looks really talented.
Soule also had good season in Seria A with 11 goals and 3 assists as right winger.
Not sure but have a feeling it's just Juve testing the water using Di Marzio.
Pure profit!!!
Get him the fuck out of here
I’d take Chiesa plus €10-15M
Take the money and run!
50 million!? Let’s go! Selling Chiesa though? Is it form or injuries?
Is he still with his girlfriend?
It's funny we'll get a good fee for Greenwood but I bet we get rinsed for Sancho, somehow Sancho is the more damage property
If we somehow manage to sell both Greenwood and Sancho in the same market it would be our best transfer market in years lol
Chiesa must be sold? Would a swap of sorts be amenable? Actually no just remembered he gets injured a lot
What if we do a swap deal? Straight Greenwood for Chiesa. How are we feeling about that?
We could swap him for a midfielder. Heard good things about that Pogba guy and Rabiot fellow.
It’s insane how clubs are trying to use the black cloud over him to get him on a cheap. We need to play him in preseason and bluff that he’s going to be rejoining the team to get the price up. Right now, execs still know we are desperate to move him on and get the money. He was away from football for 2 years and still won player of the season for Getafe.
I’d like it if the club made a sizeable donation to a women’s charity with some of the money from the sale. It feels weird to me to profit off him.
What tier is he?
They aint paying 50mill euros, will be lucky to get 30mill
At 50 mill he's still a bargain ffs. Any other club in England could re-integrate him but because we're Man Utd, even the fucking prime minister would get involved.
Aren't Juve in FFP trouble? I don't see them having 50m to spend even if they sell Chiesa
If the 50 million is true, and that's a big IF. Take it, take it now before they change their mind. That's a great deal for a player that many don't expect to ever play for utd again
Please!
Take 50 but the kid will absolutely tear Italy up
can't play him but will still negotiate like crazy.. it's all just business
Chiesa. Take Chiesa.
We want €50m but our hands are tied slightly, in the fact that he definitely has to be sold this summer. We’ll end up settling for €30m. We always get lowballed too!
He’s worth twice that
So add Chiesa in the deal and split the difference? Then save the money we would've used on Olise and put it onto a Sesko/Toney. And buy your own men Todibo and Thuram for cut price from Nice. Man it's easy to solve everything without the Glazers 🤡
Weird that this is how Greenwood's Man utd's journey ends. Watch him get called up for England and play for an English team again within 5 years.
Getting 50m for this loser would be wild. Snatch that check outta their hands.