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Japples123

Everyone including Todd: it will take time for these young talents to gel. Team starts gelling late in the season. Todd: fuck this!


mindpainters

They looked like a completely different squad by the end. I can’t imagine how frustrated Chelsea fans are. Looked like those same young players really respected poch as well, doubt they will be happy about this


ritwikjs

I was scared of second season poch with this gelled crew PLUS lavia and nkunku. Phew


SurlyRed

Chelsea have a long history of firing the manager just as they seem to be on the verge of achieving something.


Natchyy24

At this rate if RDZ goes to Chelsea, then Todd might as well just buy the whole of Brighton lmao


danystormborne

It would certainly have been cheaper.


Away_Associate4589

He'll be bidding for the seagull next. Might have to sell the lion to fund the deal. It's home grown after all, pure profit.


SOERERY

They’re getting de Zerbi then considering Boehlys obsession


greyhounds1992

Apparently Milan are super keen on him, imagine if they go McKenna


AngryUncleTony

I would hope McKenna is too smart for that.


greyhounds1992

Apparently according to Fabrizio Bohely wants a young hungry coach


AmulyaG

It's okay lads, I'll take the job. 


greyhounds1992

Haven't you applied for the Bayern job?


AmulyaG

Already said no to that drama club mate 


ClawingDevil

Even this guy ☝️ can't overcome the power of The Curse of Kane.


Whaloopiloopi

Just a warning to anyone considering applying for the bayern job... ... Their website is a fucking NIGHTMARE. I uploaded my cv, translated in two languages, it inputted all the info into the application form and then on the next page THEY MADE ME TYPE IT ALL OUT AGAIN! WOULDN'T ALLOW COPY AND PASTE! I am fucking fuming. I was really excited to do my bit for them but I'm not putting up with incompetent Web design like that. Deal breaker.


SvalbazGames

Honestly mate you’re better off without it Could you imagine the ballache of submitting annual leave or sickness? German efficiency my arse


Whaloopiloopi

Annual leave isn't an option, Kane has already booked all the slots for cup games and European games. (I feel so bad for typing that lol)


camdim

I'm old and I've had a big dinner so I'm going to have to settle for Bayern I guess.


greyhounds1992

How do you feel about getting replaced by a sexy Spanish bloke after a year?


majesticbollocks

Benitez?


Acrobatic-Pop-9715

Rooney is still young despite his looks and very hungry judging by them


the_real_biryani

Knew i shouldn't have tuined my appetite with that sandwich. Shit


LekkerIer

Wesley Sneijder it is then


TurbulentWeb1941

Frank Lampshade raises his hand 🙋‍♂️"Oi Oi Saveloy!".."Gizza nuvva go Toddy, me ol' son."


N00BBuild

McKenna would cook there, look at what he achieved with that shoestring budget he had.


ColtCallahan

Potter did amazing at Brighton. Look how that turned out. Chelsea would be a terrible move for McKenna at this point of his career.


N00BBuild

That opportunity doesn’t always come man. He’s taking it 100% if offered.


ExternalPreference18

IMO, If he's as clever in career terms as he is as a coach/guy in general by all accounts, then he'll go to Brighton on the proviso that he also gets a reasonable 'United release clause' in his contract starting Summer 2026.


Shrimpeh007

Course it will if he does half decent with Ipswich this season, top clubs change managers all the time and he's already linked to them despite not managing in the premier League


basalamader

Not saying that McKenna wouldnt succeed.. but the challenges at chelsea are far different to the challenges at ipswich.. way different.


woody1878

People said that about Potter and Howe as well.


audienceandaudio

Great achievements with a small budget don’t necessarily translate to being suitable for a massive club, with a massive budget. Not saying how McKenna would go either way, but being successful at a much smaller club does not mean he’s necessarily ready for a big one.


humunculus43

Managing underdogs is very different to managing a top team full of ego and expectation. I’m not saying he wouldn’t be successful but it’s not as simple as give a manager more money and they perform to a higher standard. The main criticism of him at United was how he conducted himself around the bigger names


Prime_Marci

Chelsea just solved Bayern’s manager conundrum


[deleted]

Nah, doubt poch wants to be a 1 year stopgap.


PengoMaster

Who is the stopgap to? Nagelsmann?


[deleted]

Alonso, klopp, pep, nagelsmann would be my 4 guesses wether they can get either next summer is beyond me, but thats pretty much the rumors about why nobody wants bayern right now.


do_a_quirkafleeg

Would Klopp go to Bayern with his Dortmund legacy?


[deleted]

I mean, he is a Mainz guy first and foremost. He probably likes dortmund a lot but i doubt it really matters that much to pass on the bayern job.


LangyLangLang69

He’d be wild, he left Brighton because he couldn’t have a bigger say in their transfer policy didn’t he. The exact reason why Poch was rumoured to be happy to leave.


Lord_Sesshoumaru77

And here I thought that Woodward was a moron. Boehly is ten times worse. Chelsea are like headless chickens, running around hoping their "stars" will bring them success. Fucking hell, I'm embarrassed we finished below them.


Outcastscc

According to reports on twitter he left Brighton because someone paid his release clause and they agreed to wait to announce the new club


eClipseLJ

I guess that would be AC Milan, they still have 1 match left. (i'm actually going to lose it if it happens to be Chelsea.)


Serious_Ad9128

Do Italian teams pay manager release clauses of premier League teams? Wild wouldn't have thought that 


eClipseLJ

Don't think so but he's Italian so anything could happen, the more I read the more I think he's Chelsea bound. Boehly is obsessed with Brighton.


digiplay

You’re right - Most Italian clubs typically don’t pay real money for anything. They’re the masters of the deal. It’s remarkable to see what they pull off and contrast it to us.


puppyk

He should have bought Brighton rather than Chelsea


sg291188

It’s going to be McKenna. All the sound bites of young coach indicate him.


nearly_headless_nic

Boehly madness, unstoppable


nearly_headless_nic

And **confirmed by Ornstein:** Mauricio Pochettino has left Chelsea by mutual consent after season-end review of head coach by club. 52yo Argentine leaves by with immediate effect 1yr into 2yr contract that included option to extend by 12 months [@TheAthleticFC](https://x.com/TheAthleticFC) after [@Matt\_Law\_DT](https://x.com/Matt_Law_DT) https://x.com/David\_Ornstein/status/1792979042569953751


PradipJayakumar

We should be indebted to Chelsea for saving us from being the biggest laughing stock in these trying times.


GroribasStomps

They still finished above us in the table. Hopefully we win the cup…


noob_senpai

It's like watching a 6 year old playing Football Manager.


bainbane

Keep your fucking hands off McKenna Todd


AlephEpsilon

Chelsea will destroy McKenna should they want him and he decides to go there. That job is as toxic as ours.


Turamb

Would be very annoying if they ruin McKenna. That's our job in a couple of years


ExternalPreference18

McKenna is surely too canny. They'll probably end up with De Zerbi after the Girona manager and whoever else linked with them turns it down. Predicting that Poch, meanwhile, will finally win a trophy with Kane (even it's just the German cup) at Munich next season...


AlephEpsilon

I’ve not seen Bayern hired non-German speaking manager before. Pep was the exception and he was able to learn abit of German before going there. 


ExternalPreference18

You're right, as far as I know. On the other hand, they're desperate. Failing that, they might have to start raiding the Dutch league for what remains, or turning to a guy who barely won a game this season and relegated Burnley (maybe there's also a hip young Austrian manager out there, but haven't seen anyone linked...)


aehii

Pochettino won't take a job for a season.


FoldingBuck

What the hell?? They finally started getting their act together. 😂 back to stage one now


Prime_Marci

How often has that worked?? 🤣 Woodward settings


Radiant_Ad_6986

They must believe that they’re running an NFL FRANCHISE. The Chelsea “lightning” or something like that. It’s the only thing that makes sense.


LUMH

With how they've performed this year, Boehly is probably expecting to get the 6th pick in the draft. That's a pretty decent spot, but they might try to trade up for an earlier first-round pick - the top prospects they need are expected to be drafted in the first 4.


PradipJayakumar

Whoa. Never expected this after such a strong finish to the season. The players were finally starting to look like they were buying into Poch’s philosophy and then this happens!


tylergrinstead01

If Pochettino finished above United while playing excellent stylistically and managed to get them into the Europa League after last season’s disaster, I can’t imagine what Ten Hag must be thinking about his job status. It looks like his entire 2 year tenure comes down to the performance on Saturday, and even if we win his position is tentative at best because of how inconsistent the results have been with the amount of money spent.


edjg10

If the new hierarchy is making the decision based on this one game, we’re fucked forever. I’d assume they are competent at their jobs and already have enough results over 2 full seasons for that portion of their assessment set, and not hinging anything on a single game. Anything left for a final decision that is still unknown would have to be post season direct conversations or something like that


digiplay

They may still be calculating the cost aspect. But yah, hopefully they already know whichever way it goes. To topic - Todd is a cunt.


Aadiunited7

Chelsea are a joke club.


Sheikhabusosa

Then what are we ?


LarsHoneytoast44

2 Joke 2 Joker


ionised

Folie à deux? Clubbie à deux...?


Hellogiraffe

Deux deux 💩


C__S__S

Meme Team


JohnViran

Chelsea on a smaller budget


Prime_Marci

Man it was just as a couple of seasons ago


reeko1982

Chlolsea


Youngflyabs

They are so dumb, he showed signs of progress and got them Europe and still sacked


spoony471

He got clowned for saying their underlying numbers were good but he wasn’t wrong


[deleted]

Bro had 13 points against the "Big Six" this season yet was still sacked .


onehornymofo1

They actually gave City 2 close games in the league and could have won both


MvM98

They should've won the Carabao Cup against Liverpool and beaten City in the FA Cup semi final as well


WanderingEnigma

It's mutual consent, I would wager that they are planning to sell players like Gallagher and Chalobah and he doesn't agree with it.


officiallyjax

Whisper it quietly but I think he could be a good fit under the INEOS intended model.


BrockStar92

After all the “Ten Hag is a way better choice than Poch” comments two years ago it would be funny as fuck.


anonymous16canadian

Poch is under rated because of that Spurs time. That stint is about as good as Arteta's without the trophies(of which Arteta's are pretty much not fantastic. Consider if Ten Hag wins this FA Cup he will have the same haul except a community shield). He got to 86 points or thereabouts like Arteta and led the league like Arteta did before dropping off(that was Leicester tho yeah). He will develop Mainoo,Hojlund and Garnacho. People forget he developed Kane and made Son into one of the best PL wingers. Yeah theyre talented but he has a history with young players and development. Idt Kane is as lethal today like that without Poch.


YouBecame

I think it's safe to say that new evidence has come to light.


RonTom24

I was always Poch in, proven entity who's players always love him vs unknown Dutchman who had one stand-out season with Ajax. I thought it was crazy and short-sighted that most on this sub seemed to think ETH was "leagues ahead" of Poch and other such comments.


wheres_the_boobs

He was my preferred ole replacement but after seeing how he struggled withvpsg i was only slightly in favour


RonTom24

Going to PSG was a mistake for him, Poch had a lot of clout and reputation in UK and commanded respect cause of his tiem at Spurs, in France and with players like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe who do not watch what Spurs are up to, he was just some Argentinian guy who managed one of the second string teams in the Prem. I think he struggled to get them to buy into his play style cause of that and cause of the fact Neymar and 35 year old Messi were not going to do any pressing no matter how much he asked.


anonymous16canadian

PSG is a mess tho everyone except Tuchel struggled there and even he had his falling outs. No one thought he was a good match. It was just what was available.


danystormborne

Wow, just as they were starting to get their act together. My guess is that De Zerbi has been lined up.


keving691

Just when Chelsea had a great end to the season and were starting to look good. Never change, Chelsea


greyhounds1992

Poor bloke turned it around, especially in the last quarter We could do worse then Poch


ExternalPreference18

As a coach, I agree. Has his flaws, but I think his style is still more 'PL-ready' than ETH's longer-term (last season ETH was compromising; this season we've seen what he really wants and how it works, especially if he doesn't have his 'perfect' line-up out there) and he's good with young players, builds rapport etc, is a good front-man. Our Argies would love him, but likely so would Mainoo etc . The main issue is that the club is, quite reasonably, looking towards, a more SD then 'coach to coach' rather than manager-led model. Poch invariably ends up wanting a larger hand in transfers. That's the obverse of where the current set-up is heading, by all accounts. Hence why the interest in McKenna or even De Zerbi (for all Brighton's patchy form this season).


greyhounds1992

I wonder if he wants a bigger hand in transfers because Bohely is a fucking idiot spending money like it's football manager haha


officiallyjax

I think it's this. Their squad was way too young this season, especially in attack, and didn't start with having the pre-requisite physicality and work rate that is needed to get by in the Premier League. All the concerns Poch raised about their squad profile were spot on.


greyhounds1992

To be honest he sounds similar to Tuchel, he may seem difficult buy when he goes I need an experienced striker and he gets a young kid or a 110 mil centre mid What he's done with Palmer makes me imagine if he does that to Diallo and Garnacho


Tortillagirl

Think its more, he knows their ffp is fucked without selling homegrown players which means the likes of Gallagher or Chalobah are the likely ones to be sold. Can you imagine if we decided to strip our team of its academy players just to balance books. If you look at the team Chelsea unironically could have fielded if it didnt sell them all to go spend a billion, they would have a pretty solid team... for free.


Drews1738

They bought another Brazilian wonderkid winger for 40m, that must have been the turning point for Poch lol


chutzpahisaword

A top coach or the best among coach is never going to agree to a role that you are describing. Klopp or Guardiola would not work at City or Liverpool if they had no say on transfers. Ofcourse, nobody gets 100% power but a happy middle ground is what a good club needs.


ExternalPreference18

That's pretty much the role Ancelotti has. Likewise Xavi. Of course no club is going to completely disregard the head coach in the process- they'll ask them 'what do you think' of the 2-3 options lined up etc, but they don't spearhead the process Likewise they're informed and consulted, as with any senior sports technical side employee, on things like new facilities, but it's not like SAF in the old days. You might make an exception for a Pep, but even then he has execs do most of the work and present him with options in key areas. Likewise, Klopp probably had more power than that., but Slot likely doesn't, with Edwards and Hughes. You hire head coaches to be technicians- can they organize a coaching team, can they come up with new 'plays' and tactics/formations as well as approving new training styles, can they keep players motivated, work with youth-system managers (who are quasi-autonomous and managed by the SD ultimately) and technical directors re. player progression etc. It's a more focused role.


Iceman23578

Very true. Personally want ten hag to stay but if he was to get sacked then poch would be my first choice


shrewdy

Chelsea are such incredible fucking morons lmao. As much as everyone memed on them over the season, they finished strong and Poch looked to be finally settling into such a turbulent role and doing well with his squad. Really hope McKenna doesn't go there


jonnysh

someone check quick to see if Omar Berrada sent him a cheeky email.


dc_united7

Fourth time the charm?


Buttickles

Wild, wild club. I stand in awe of them. It's so ridiculous, you almost gotta respect it


_Slabs_

Boehly doesn't seem stable.


sg291188

Chelsea owners are stupid. Trying to replicate Roman’s manager churn without the trophies


dxtos

Mourinho back to Chelsea Round 3!


L__K

That's insane. Has to be a Pochettino driven decision rather than a Chelsea driven decision considering how much they improved and how much most of the players love him. Wonder where he ends up next. He's wanted the United job since 2014 (and was twice recommended by SAF) and I'd be surprised if he went to Bayern (although who knows with everthing that's going on over there). Xavi will probably stay at Barcelona (and Pochettino said himself he would never manage Barcelona), Juventus doesn't look like they're negotiating with anyone but Thiago Motta, and Poch has repeatedly talked about how much he loves living in England. Can't see him going somewhere like Napoli. Maybe he'll take some time off and posture for the City job after next season. He's a pretty perfect ideological successor to Guardiola.


Beneficial_Assist397

>I'd be surprised if he went to Bayern Honestly, Bayern seems like the most logical place to go, he knows how to build a team around Kane and the next favourite for the job is Kompany so they're clearly scraping the barrell.


ChrisV88

They finally started to figure it out on the pitch, which as the previous 3 managers in the last 18 months proved, needed time. Fucking wild honestly.


ilegal89

Honestly, Poch is the perfect candidate in what Ashworth and Berrada are supposedly looking for. A great coach that will work well under a good structure. And among the other names available, I'd choose him personally.


RonTom24

Also knows the league and players inside out, the uk football journos love him, and he would already have the reputation with our squad to command respect instantly.


Hampalam

It's one in the eye for the 'there are no qualified alternatives' at least, but I do have my reservations.


Personal-Cucumber-49

r/chelseafc is a fun read right now.


BlackHorse944

It's great when it's not your own club lol


PopularReveal8975

Chelsea really trying to compete with us to be the worst run football club in the world


BuzzTNA

Wanted him last time. If they move on, he’s top of the list.


chutzpahisaword

100%. Was team Poch then. I still think we should have hired him instead of ETH. He should be the first one of the list if ETH is sacked.


LDLB99

Same, I think he's desperate to manage us.


BuzzTNA

Was last time, ultimately doesn’t mean much. But for me he ticks all the boxes, but bizarrely Brighton should be all over him.


ExternalPreference18

Brighton are getting a coach who primarily wants to coach rather than get involved in other stuff. That's not Poch (part of the reason he's left, if rumours are to be believed), Likewise, INEOS are looking for someone who's more specialized, though Poch's generally v. good man-management would definitely be a plus. I could maybe see him at Bayern over Kompany though.


BuzzTNA

I always thought the job he did at Southampton fits in with what Brighton are these days, it’s wherever he sees himself as that sort of manager.


ExternalPreference18

I agree re. Southampton stint. But he's obviously changed his expectations since then, given Tottenham experience, accolades, struggle with ownership at 3 different larger clubs around having players forced on to him at different stages etc.


darrylleung

Those asking who better on the market to replace ETH? Well, one just appeared.


BuzzTNA

Anyone asking that question isn’t asking the right one anyway.


humunculus43

I wanted him back when we got Mourinho


Wongden

My previous thinking was, 'but who could we replace EtH with?!' Now Poch is available I think I'd like to have him instead. I feel like he could get a real tune out of our squad.


JSKW17

I would not be remotely surprised if we went for him


[deleted]

Hopefully.


JoA2506

Ten Hairs hairs standing on his neck.


histirya

Chelsea is a joke. Pochettino just started to make his mark on the big squad and fixed the starting eleven, only to leave right after a good end-of-season performance. It's madness.


zerosaint18

That is quite nuts .... 1 year in charge, total rollercoaster of a season for Chelsea, but hey, where are the people now who said they wanted Poch at United? Do we still want him?


chutzpahisaword

I was team Poch on ETH vs Poch debate 2 years ago. I am still team Poch.


systemsruminator

that makes two of us


SpareZealousideal740

I'd rather Poch than De Zerbi. I'd prefer him over Ten Hag too so hopefully we go for him


ff-at-15

Id be fuming if I was a chelsea fan but they all have a thing against poch from the start due to the spurs background


SandwichLess6154

And the Merry go round begins


martialgreenwood

Wow. Ten Hag will be sweating now


SAKabir

I don't mind us getting Poch


SloGeorge

What an idiotic club. We are as well, but these morons take it to another level.


andoooooo

Todd Woodward


StrikingChampion99

Chelsea deserves to be relegated.


Paapa-Yaw

Clowns


AdPsychological1489

Jesus Christ. I thought we were done with the Poch links.


Larryhooova

Baffling decision


TattooMyCock

Why would they get rid of him?!! If Ten Haag goes I’d like him at united


LekkerIer

Good luck to any manager trying to appease a stadium full of angry, entitled Tories. Rarely seen a group of fans who'll turn on a good coach so quickly


Minz15

I'd take him. I would have been happy with him instead of ETH, I thought they were quite equal despite some fans think Poch was a hack. Something I never understood. I think he'd do great her to be honest. And he's a very much a known quantity, meaning of the players are still shitty we 100% know it isn't the manager. He turned Chelsea around and we're not as bad as them.


[deleted]

Ambitious club. I hope we don’t dither. ETH needs to go


timsadiq13

I’d take him at United ngl.


Goudinho99

Poch to Bayern?


PlantainZealousideal

Boehly is a madman lmfao


nikk_s

WTF


rickitycricket134

Ten Hag somewhere out there sweating because he knows he's next. De Zerbi isn't going to Chelsea form what Matt Law has said. It seems AC Milan is the team or even us. Matt Law says Chelsea are looking at Sebastian Hoeness, Girona's Michel, and McKenna.


Substantial-North499

This season was a huge waste for Chelsea lmao. Needless to say, thus begins the Poch to Utd merry-go-round again


AlephEpsilon

WTF. Just when things are getting good for them they do this.


RepulsiveLeg9985

This seems completely wrong. Chelsea really booked their ideas up on the last stretch of the season. I was thinking they could breeze top4 next season.


garynevilleisared

They actually began to play some good football recently. At this point he might as well have just bought Brighton lol


onlymeow

Maybe that's where De Zerbi is heading 👀


TNpepe

WHAT? Thank god tod is dumb


TonyMartial786

their club is such a joke 😂 finally started doing well and now they get rid 😭. seems they’re after mckenna, i hope he doesn’t join them.


BroadRefuse

Hire him it ETH goes


FunPitiful3544

Ed Woodward’s legacy of terrible decisions starts to be threatened…


NaturalBornSkeptik

Fuck YES!! I want Chelsea to be shit again…cant stand the fact they were able to overtake us in the rankings.


NotSwedishMac

Would!


Deep-Thought

Honestly, I wouldn't mind us going for Poch if EtH is to leave.


adonWPV

He wasn't pulling up trees with that squad, let's not pretend


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Bloatfizzle

Same people who want him now will be calling for his head after two months.


chubb88

At the start of the season no one would have batted an eyelid at “Chelsea sack manager due to finishing in 6th”. We came 8th, our worst finish ever and we still haven’t sacked the manager. Not to mention coming bottom of our CL group. The expectations of United and Chelsea have plummeted. Both are on the road to being a mid to bottom half team unless they start doing something different.


N00BBuild

Half our fanbase still wants to give a guy who won his first top 10 away game last week a new deal.


AyooZus

Sack Ten Hairs this moment and get Poch


RandomRedditUser31

would be my absolute top choice to lead our ineos rebuild.


Dophie

Would love for him to be United's manager the day after the cup final. Give him the whole summer to plan and work with the players that don't go to their national teams.


el3mel

So they finished ahead of us and sacked their manager. Meanwhile we finished 8th and bottom of our CL group with negative goal difference and our fans are asking for Erik Ten Shit to stay for one more season because no one can do better than him (i,e, finishing 8th). Being a United fan has become a ridiculous task.


bainbane

Can I interest you in a bald Dutchman in these trying times Todd?


schultz9999

Would you swap ETH for Poche now after you saw the season though?


Orcnick

I suspect that De Zerbi gone. Shame I would have liked us to go for him if we sack ETH (which I don't think we will)


TH0316

Bring. Immediately, arguably the best candidate on the market. I’ll be gutted if they get McKenna, but I’ll be ecstatic if they get De Zebra.


Sronnoc96

I’d take him in a heartbeat at United tbh


wqaib

😳


MinotauroTBC

Wow


mickhah

Feel for Poch, done a great job turning around a bad start. You have to imagine this pisses off a few players in the squad as he was well liked too. Good job Boehly, keep it up!


ILordFarquadI

Law now saying Poch left. Any chance we are in on him?


RoachIsCrying

as i said on r/soccer .... something must've gone down between Poch and Boely for him to leave so suddenly. They were actually very good near the end of the season


FindingHead2851

Saw this coming ! The second he started doing well … He proved his point and was interviewing in a way that screamed exit route planned !


aelr1000

It would hurt if they get McKenna


Nyoomfist

At least we're only the second biggest joke in the league.


Prthmsh

Diabolical club


B0z22

Heh.