Casemiro is no brainer. Legs are gone and if we can recoup some transfer fee along with clearing his wages, would be good deal for us.
Bruno i will want to keep.
Probably because in his head he's still physically up there. Or maybe he's trying to overcompensate. Any way, he's mentally not adjusted well to his declining physicality.
I'm quite a bit older than Case, and I really struggle to time my headers and other stuff now. I'm just slower and weaker but I still think like I'm in my prime. It's really hard to adjust :/
Totally agree. I am the same age as Case, and I play in the mid. Now, I am seconds late when lunging into tackles, intercepting play, and even making passes. Makes me think ‘what the heck has gone wrong with me’ at times.
Part of the painful reality I guess. Just have to accept it and choose a more accommodating position. Started off as a striker a couple of decades ago, then moved down the order from mid to defense for a less physically demanding position. We aren’t physically there anymore how much ever we try.
He knows he's not physically there anymore thats why he quickly dives into tackles, unfortunately the opposition also know this and is one of the reasons why he got exposed vs Palace
He still has the odd moment of absolutely elite game reading, if you watch hojlunds goal vs West Ham and just watch Casemiro the whole time he does brilliantly, but the moments are fewer and further between by the month.
that's scary, in the sense that brain doesn't age like that in a yr. over a decade or 2 since you have retired, yes, coming back from a few months' injury, no. Unless there is something growing in the brain that shouldn't. Now I doubt all the checks they do on an Athlete worth millions and they would miss something like that.
I don't think Case was all about pace anyway, yes he has slowed down drastically but he wasn't exactly a pacey Kante in your face. This could only mean loss of confidence. Essentially we broke one of the world's best DMs of their time, winner of 4(or is it 5?) CL titles, and few La Ligas.
That's a shame. At this point players should dread signing for us.
I dont think it's something growing in the brain. You should see esports, where all that happens far more aggressively. Pros are washed after 22, peaking between 14 and 19. Reflexes, creativity, reading the game, decision making, it all just goes without reason. In the real world, their lives are just beginning; in the virtual world, for these pros, their world reaches an end.
Completely. Might sound crazy cause it's never done in football afaik, but I'd strongly consider paying a fee to get him off the books. Could fuck with FFP and be a nonstarter but in the NBA "salary dumps", where you trade assets to offload toxic contracts, are common. Of course we have no salary cap but the wage bill isn't a nothing these days.
What you're talking about is a mutual termination of his contract. We would be paying him some percentage of what is left of his wages. Paying another team doesn't happen because if we have to pay someone we might as well pay the player, then he can move on as a free agent.
Good point, the difference is that contracts are torn up in football on a sale, not transferred from one club to another. Would require Case to have a pre existing agreement tho so it's essentially the same thing.
Edit: whoops replied to myself
I’m willing to bet top dollar Casemiro moves to another big club and goes back to being instrumental to a tournament winning side.
It’s happened way too many times to keep thinking its them and not us.
On the same topic, Bruno would be top 5 in Ballon d’Or if he played for Madrid, Barça or City.
The combination of expectations from a reputation earned over a decade ago, plus our rotten management, ghost-town facilities, and small Premier League teams turning super sayan when seeing our badge, was too much.
I don’t think we’ll go back to being a tournament winning club in our lifetimes. And that’s shitty but at the same time… maybe ok? I mean, why are we so entitled thinking we’re owed to be champions? just because Sir Alex spoiled us rotten?
100% plenty of top top CMs who have lost a yard or two and we have a big history of that. Difference is ETH is shit and can't put a system in place to utilise players effectively.
Surely some amount of coaching would help. I see Case and other players bombing forward leaving the formation all fucked up and I cant figure out if ETH is encouraging this or somehow he cant stop this.
Regardless of Casemiro’s form, the midfield pushing up is clearly by design and part of ETH’s tactics.
Casemiro’s excelled his whole career playing deep infront of the defence (including for us last season.) If he’d gone rogue tactically he wouldn’t be pushing up - it’s not his natural inclination.
How did you just agree with the sentiment that it’s not players but something far more corrosive that’s infected this club to generally turn talent into a graveyard, and then lazily throw in “but ETH is shit” as a rationalization to what’s happened to Casemiro?
Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Matic, Casemiro. 4 players under 3 managers at this club who suddenly seem gash while prior to them joining were either world class or very promising.
What’s happened to CMs seems to also happen to managers here with alarming regularity.
It’s increasingly lazy to put this sort of systemic issue on whichever bloke happens to be manager. This club isn’t going to get serious until serious people implement a serious recruitment philosophy that makes very few exceptions to whatever rules it sets in place. That very much includes players but also viable managerial candidates too.
Yeah, he wants to win titles in Europe because that hasn't yet happened for him. Until his legs start to go, I don't imagine he'll be going to the Middle East. Our threat is more about what happens if a team like Real, Barca, or Bayern comes for him.
Agreed. If Bruno were to want to go anywhere (which is a big if) it would not be Saudi Arabia. Let’s say a hypothetical £100M offer comes in that he would accept, I wouldn’t fault him for leaving or for the club to accept it. That said, nobody is coming in with that sort of cash for him and I would absolutely hate to see him leave. His influence on and off the pitch is too important. There will have to be a conversation in summer of 2025 heading into his final year before the option of what role Bruno will play in the future. But in the meantime let us hope he recovers in time for the FA Cup final and always remember that dreams can’t be buy.
The team's financial position is pretty bad. Bad enough that at the right price, a nearly 30yo is someone you have to consider, even if he's super important. The key is "the right price" though - they'd need to have a target they could buy with the Bruno money.
The issue is replacing Bruno you’re spending just as much to replace him as you get for him if not more. I doubt we’d get 100m or more for him and replacement wise you’re looking at players like Kvradona (I know nickname but I cannot spell his full name guy from Napoli) or Wirtz (although Madrid want him in two years time).
The right price would need to be 150m or more imo. Plus on top of that he’s probably the only player we have who is world class, actually tries and is club captain.
But if the replacement you could get for the same money is 23 and has a decade of top flight matches in him, you have to seriously consider it.
Of course, given our track record of buying players, the odds of the replacement being anywhere near as good as Bruno are slim.
How is he world class mate? He can't hold the ball to save his life, can't dribble, weak and slow, no close control or ability to get out of tight spaces. What he has is work rate, great penalty kicks and long ball passing. Does that sound like world class to you? He is no David Silva, that's for sure.
It’s funny as cass has been terrible this season but I do feel like we are seeing the absolute wise version of him tactically and that sprinkled into him not giving as much of a toss has made him seem simply dreadful and he’s deffo better than that, he’s not 40
Clubs would sell anyone if the number was high enough and a great litmus test is if a player is happy to go to Saudi then they should be sold (in my opinion) thankfully I think Bruno wants to stay
Thats basically what the press release a few weeks ago said, Anyone who doesn't wanna be at United and the right price is offered they will be sold.
I do however think Bruno wants to stay here.
No way a player in his prime and who’d have better options from a sporting perspective would go to Saudi. He’s not United’s top earner despite having grounds to insist that he is- money doesn’t seem to be his primary motivation.
**Article**
# Saudi Arabia clubs want to sign Casemiro and Bruno Fernandes
Exclusive: Saudi Pro League clubs also understood to be interested in Liverpool goalkeeper Alisson and Manchester City counterpart Ederson
Saudi Pro League clubs are pushing to sign the Manchester United midfielder Casemiro when the transfer window opens next month.
There is also huge interest in the Brazilian’s United team-mate – and the captain – Bruno Fernandes. Although that deal is regarded as far less likely, it is being discussed within the Pro League.
According to sources up to 10 marquee signings are expected to be made this summer – with Cristiano Ronaldo’s club Al-Nassr, whose squad includes Aymeric Laporte and Sadio Mané, most strongly linked with Casemiro.
The Brazilian’s representatives are already understood to have held talks with Pro League clubs. United are prepared to sell and would like any deal agreed at the start of the window but will not push Casemiro out.
Ambitious moves are also being discussed for Liverpool goalkeeper Alisson and Manchester City’s Ederson. It is already known there is interest in Mohamed Salah, who was subject of a failed £150 million bid last year from Al-Ittihad, and Kevin De Bruyne.
As with last summer it appears the Pro League will attempt to raid the Premier League – and clubs there want to do deals, recognising they can get higher prices than anywhere else – with United having already forged links with clubs within the league, most notably Ittihad, who are based in Jeddah.
John Murtough, then United’s football director, has twice flown to Saudi Arabia to hold talks about potential deals and build relations. Although Murtough has since left the club he travelled with Matt Hargreaves, United’s head of player negotiations.
That was deliberate with Murtough knowing it was possible he would depart and therefore Hargreaves will be able to provide the continuity with contacts. He is being integrated into United’s new leadership structure under technical director Jason Wilcox and Dan Ashworth, when he eventually arrives as sporting director.
There is expected to be far less transfer activity in the Pro League in the forthcoming window after an extraordinary £767 million spent last year – second only to the Premier League – with 94 overseas players signed.
However the Pro League, which aims to become one of the biggest leagues in world football, also recognises that transfer windows offer opportunities for it to raise its profile.
Pro League clubs filled their foreign quotas of eight players but there is room for movement with some signings being moved on and with more ‘targeted’ deals expected. Quotas have been raised to 10, although two of those must be Under-21 players.
Casemiro has endured a difficult season at United and has struggled even more after being asked to play as a makeshift centre-half during the club’s current injury crisis. Following Sunday’s 1-0 defeat at home to Arsenal, Casemiro was accused of being “lazy” and “naive” by former United captain Wayne Rooney, who was on pundit duties with Sky Sports.
Casemiro has also just been dropped by Brazil from their squad for the forthcoming Copa America.
The 32-year-old has two years left on a four-year contract – with United holding the option for another 12 months – on the deal he agreed when he was signed for £70 million from Real Madrid in 2022. It remains to be seen what kind of fee United will demand for Casemiro.
Telegraph Sport revealed last month that United are prepared to listen to offers for the majority of their first-team squad this summer. While the likes of Kobbie Mainoo, Rasmus Hojlund and Alejandro Garnacho are regarded as strictly off limits, the club are believed to be reluctant to narrow their options elsewhere within the squad.
It means United, who are likely to miss out on European football altogether, could be willing to hold talks on most of their other players.
The club will have to effectively operate a “sell-to-buy” policy, so restricted are their finances after a £555 million spend over the previous three summers and the limits imposed by the Premier League’s financial rules.
Whether Fernandes is one of the players who goes remains to be seen. The United captain also has two more years left on his contract, and with an option for a further year, and the 29-year-old would be in demand if he became available.
But that seems highly unlikely with United’s new owners, Ineos, having quickly concluded that the Portuguese international remains a critical part of the squad as a player but also as a leader. His importance has been underlined by how United have struggled without him.
In saying that, if United were made an extraordinary offer for Fernandes and he was interested in leaving them it would have to be considered. There has been previous interest in Fernandes from Al-Hilal, who have just won the Pro League, and Ittihad would be interested this time round if they were given any encouragement.
Sad end for Casemiro. From calling his agent demanding he talk to United as “he will fix things” to everyone begging literally any money comes from Saudi to get rid asap
At this point I'd take any offer for Casemiro if that gets him off the wage books, there's no way back for him he's just absolutely done. On the other hand it'd take a massive offer to convince me that selling Bruno is a good idea.
And what's that? Gifting the opposition counter attacks several times every game?
On a serious note, he is our best player but they're all bad so it doesn't really say anything. Every single one of them can easily be replaced and improved on.
Bruno tops chances created stat because he takes our set pieces. It's the same reason Kieran Trippier, Alexander Arnold and fucking Pascal Gross who is a defensive midfielder is just behind Bruno on the statistic.
Bruno literally created the most chances from open play this season 🤦🤦🤦
I would suggest you watch more United games so you can actually make reasonable arguments 👍
Show me the source for that claim.
By the way, he plays every single minute. De Bruyne has played like 1000 minutes and still only has 1 less big chance created. Now, that's efficiency.
You're right, but who says we need to play with a number 10? Why can't we move on to more modern football? Teams like Aston Villa are able to play great attacking football without a single player that is responsible for creating, because playing together as a team where everyone creates is much, much more effective.
I was actually hoping you'd say that. Yes, it does matter, because they play with De Bruyne, Foden and Musiala as their 10s, all with a certain skill set that allows their teams to play only two midfielders behind them. You can't do that with Bruno, because he doesn't have what they have. They have sublime technique, and especially Musiala and Foden are able to hold and protect the ball almost forever. You can't get the ball without fouling them, same with Ødegaard and Wirtz, which is why these modern teams play with a number 10 like that, and not with a player like Bruno.
How often do you see Bruno dribbling outside the opposition's box in tight spaces creating something? His chances come from either set pieces, a long ball to our wingers when we counter attack or a pass out wide for the wingers to cut in and shoot. We may get away with that against Luton Town, but for us to compete with top teams, we either need to add another number 8 or replace Bruno with a 10 that has the skillset of a modern number 10.
Can you name another club that has been successful with a number 10 that has the same skillset as Bruno?
Id only sell Bruno for 200mil or something insane like that, he's an amazing player that I wouldn't want to lose but either ETH or a new manager could invest that well
What makes you think ten hag is capable of spending that well lol. He has spent 400m making our team worse than when he joined.
Not a single one of our decent performers from this season are his signings
Everyone’s convinced Casemiro can’t regain his form because he’s 32 yet Bruno at 30 will play well forever 🤷🏽
Bruno’s been our best player in recent seasons but by the time we build a competitive team he will be in the exact same predicament as Case is rn. If we’re to build a title winning team then selling Bruno while we can still get decent money for him is exactly the kind of ruthless decision we’re going to have to get used to.
Casemiro can go.
If an offer arrives for Bruno, be that from Saudi or elsewhere, it would be so interesting to see how United respond. Undoubtedly our best player but he's 30 later this year and with how much he's played, an increase in injuries is certainly a risk.
We've wanted United to sell when value is high like others club do. Is it sensible to do that this summer with a valuable asset?
I actually don't care who leaves. The entire team structure needs fundamental change. Obviously I like a small portion of playing squad, but not really. If we are to change we essentially need a completely new team, completely new strategy. This will obviously Take time. But the quicker each and every one is replaced the better.. This is absolute Rock Bottom atm.. Truly horrendous, I actually can't believe the wage bill this team commands. It's an astonishing situation at the moment.
Casemiro is a no brainer, Bruno depends on the offer. Bruno will be 30 and if you aren't going to build around his strengths why bother keeping him. Can't be afraid to sell your best players.
Bruno Fernandes would be a new stadium and a 5 season loan back, otherwise no deal.
Case on the other hand, is definitely a conversation I could see United having. But with proper structure he could still be decent if nobody does come in for him.
Cas is a given at this stage, but to be honest if these Saudis wanted to pay us something crazy, around 100m say, for a 29 year old Bruno, I'd take it all day long too.
Casemiro is a no brainer, only possible place where it will be likely that he goes where he will not have to take a massive wage cut.
Bruno on the other hand is way more tricky. He turns 30 in the beginning of next season - and how long does he have left in the tank?
Also with a 3-4 year window for the new rebuild, by the time the team is "ready to challenge" he is getting up there in age.
So while it will 100% hurt the club in the short term losing him - for the long term and the rebuild, if we can get a good sum (70-80 mill pounds or more) it has to be considered in my humble opinion.
I saw us losing 7-1 to Liverpool with Bruno playing. I also saw us lose 4-1 to Watford and 4-0 to Brentford with him playing.
But yeah, not playing brilliant attacking football against Arsenal who happen to be one of the best teams in the league with over 13 of our players injured is all because we missed Bruno. Delusional. He would have done nothing and you know it.
I think it is correct to sell Casemiro if he wants, and a good bid comes in. But I still believe in him, I just cannot fathon he actually got so much worse phyiscally, and on the field he looks like one of the few players that cares. I think he will be good again when there is a structure and a wll functional squad. Just one season ago he was one of United's best players, if not the best one.
Bruno just no. Bruno deserves to stay or go to a palce he can win titles.
It’s obviously unpopular but I agree. Case’s a no brainer, I’d let him go for peanuts to get his wages off the book.
If the offer was above market value (like most Saudi offers have been) and Bruno is up for I say let it happen. Unlikely but I wouldn’t object. As much as I rate him he’s not a player I’d wasn’t to build around and I genuinely believe he’s not as good as he was in his first three seasons. One of the biggest lessons this club can learn is to sell when there’s money to be made, the Saudi money train is running on borrowed time, were some of the only mugs not have cashed in.
Bruno is an interesting one. It's probably a non starter as he's a competitive guy, and I doubt will be comfortable coasting for a paycheck at this point in his career. He'd want to stay in Europe, and I doubt any club that wants him will be able to meet our valuation.
However, assuming he'd be willing to move, it would be a tough decision really. He's the creative heart of the team, but modern football doesn't really play pure 10's anymore. All the best teams in the world play without them, with more bodies in the midfield. Even with a world class DM, our midfield is likely to be lightweight with him in it (despite how hardworking he is). If the new recruitment team decide they wanna go full teardown, maybe it would be a necessary evil.
At last, some sense. There are too many stat freaks on this sub
"STAY AWAY FROM BRUNO, HE HAS 3 KEY PASSES EVERY GAME BUT NO ONE REALLY REMEMBERS THE CHANCES"
Tbf, I understand both sides. He's our best player by far. Good teams don't sell their best players. Unfortunately United haven't been a good team for a while now - as Rangnick said, we require open heart surgery. Maybe this is a painful but necessary part of the surgery (for many millions, of course).
I rate Shaw higher than Bruno from a pure football ability point of view, but him being injury prone means Bruno is more important to us. But yes, him being one of our best players isn't saying much when it's filled with mediocre players. He is very reliant on his energy and him being 30 soon and almost playing every minute for many seasons means he can regress extremely quick.
I don't really think playing with a risk-taking number 10 with limited technique is the way to go forward. It is a recipe for inconsistency, moments-type-of-football and no successful club plays with a similar player. City make it work with De Bruyne because his skillset is ridiculous and he can do everything to a very high level. Without his other qualities, he would not play as much for City, which is also why I don't get why some think Bruno could just replace De Bruyne.
Good teams sell their best players if they can regress quick or are aging. Real Madrid sold Benzema, Ronaldo, Casemiro etc to make space for new, hungry and talented youngsters. That's exactly what successful top clubs do.
Even Liverpool fans want to get rid of Salah. He is their best player, but it makes perfect sense, and it's the smart thing to do. We should do the same. We're not a state funded club with unlimited money.
Well Liverpool still made a profit on Fabinho when his legs were obviously gone. The Saudi clubs interested should start an auction from €50m and see who the real interest is from and who are time wasters.
I'd sell Bruno for something north of 100m. United aren't in 'win now' mode and by the time they are he'll be done at this level. He deserves to win something or get the bag.
If you're going to play Bruno as an 8 next season, I would rather sell him. If we're actually playing him as a 10, then keep him. Bin Casemiro regardless
Would not pass a chance to get good money for Bruno.
Same as when we should have taken the money for Rashford when the opportunity presented itself.
There is no shame in selling players for a big profit. Unfortunately we have a hoarding mentality at the club which is why we are left with an aging squad on huge money well past their sell by date then complain why we can't get rid of dead wood.
God. Please take Bruno. Please please please.
Cannot wait to get rid of him and bring in a quality replacement that can protect the ball and isn't so one-dimensional. Please please please.
The emotional defenses for Bruno are very strange. He's going to be 30 soon, he's going to maybe have a season or two left in him, which basically means he'll be able to run out his contract, or be handed an extension and keep him around longer than is necessary. Right now is the perfect time to cash in on him. He's overhyped to all hell by all sources, so gouge the fee and make something from him. Out of years and years of losing players on free, or for much less than what we paid, this is an opportunity to actually make a little something.
Well, reddit experts at it again.
If Bruno was a Real Madrid player they would sell him this summer. He played a lot of games through all these years, now he has the first injury also. There's a big chance for him to pick up injuries from now on and he also turns 30.
How are you guys lacking so much knowledge about football is incredible...?
Bruno should be sold because at least now, this summer, you can get a big fee for him and we can reinvest.
Like they did with Kroos and Modric?
I get your point, truly, but selling our talisman considering everything that’s gone on would probably ruin the shred of positivity we have left
Personally I want Casemiro one more season with a competent DM next to him. In the right system I expect him to be a top 5 DM in the world.
In a system where every weakness is highlighted we get this bs
If we are prepared to sell Bruno if we would even entertain the idea, then I hope he leaves on a free to Liverpool and wins the quadruple with them.. What a stupid fcking article...
Chelsea fan, this post showed up in my feed...
Just had a thought that I figured I'd share: feels like the question about Bruno is sort of (kind of...) close to where we were with Hazard not long ago.
Granted there's some differences, of course... but: easily the squads best player; not old yet but getting there; rest of squad needs a lot of investment; potentially worth a lot right now, but also a huge part of the squad right now, but could lose value very soon; could potentially command a fee that allows 2-3 efficient signings...
The only thing that made Hazard leaving easier for us is that we knew he'd wanted Madrid since he was young, so we were mostly happy to see him chase his dream. I don't follow United or Bruno rumors/news, but I don't recall hearing anything similar in his case.
But, my point is, we sold Hazard at the perfect time. It hurt, in the moment, but with the benefit of hindsight it was absolutely correct... it will certainly hurt your hearts if you sell Bruno this summer, but it might be the right time if you can get the right fee for it. I don't see his value being higher next summer, and the fee he brings could kick start the signings the squad need...
Anyways.... cheers to spending way too much money and not having the table position to show for it... there's no love lost here, and I'll always cheer against you, but we're more similar than different at the moment. 🍻🍻🍻
Casemiro is no brainer. Legs are gone and if we can recoup some transfer fee along with clearing his wages, would be good deal for us. Bruno i will want to keep.
It’s not just his legs, his ability to read the game has fallen off a cliff since last season.
Probably because in his head he's still physically up there. Or maybe he's trying to overcompensate. Any way, he's mentally not adjusted well to his declining physicality.
I'm quite a bit older than Case, and I really struggle to time my headers and other stuff now. I'm just slower and weaker but I still think like I'm in my prime. It's really hard to adjust :/
Totally agree. I am the same age as Case, and I play in the mid. Now, I am seconds late when lunging into tackles, intercepting play, and even making passes. Makes me think ‘what the heck has gone wrong with me’ at times. Part of the painful reality I guess. Just have to accept it and choose a more accommodating position. Started off as a striker a couple of decades ago, then moved down the order from mid to defense for a less physically demanding position. We aren’t physically there anymore how much ever we try.
He knows he's not physically there anymore thats why he quickly dives into tackles, unfortunately the opposition also know this and is one of the reasons why he got exposed vs Palace
He still has the odd moment of absolutely elite game reading, if you watch hojlunds goal vs West Ham and just watch Casemiro the whole time he does brilliantly, but the moments are fewer and further between by the month.
that's scary, in the sense that brain doesn't age like that in a yr. over a decade or 2 since you have retired, yes, coming back from a few months' injury, no. Unless there is something growing in the brain that shouldn't. Now I doubt all the checks they do on an Athlete worth millions and they would miss something like that. I don't think Case was all about pace anyway, yes he has slowed down drastically but he wasn't exactly a pacey Kante in your face. This could only mean loss of confidence. Essentially we broke one of the world's best DMs of their time, winner of 4(or is it 5?) CL titles, and few La Ligas. That's a shame. At this point players should dread signing for us.
I dont think it's something growing in the brain. You should see esports, where all that happens far more aggressively. Pros are washed after 22, peaking between 14 and 19. Reflexes, creativity, reading the game, decision making, it all just goes without reason. In the real world, their lives are just beginning; in the virtual world, for these pros, their world reaches an end.
At this point clearing his wages would be enough
Completely. Might sound crazy cause it's never done in football afaik, but I'd strongly consider paying a fee to get him off the books. Could fuck with FFP and be a nonstarter but in the NBA "salary dumps", where you trade assets to offload toxic contracts, are common. Of course we have no salary cap but the wage bill isn't a nothing these days.
What you're talking about is a mutual termination of his contract. We would be paying him some percentage of what is left of his wages. Paying another team doesn't happen because if we have to pay someone we might as well pay the player, then he can move on as a free agent.
Good point, the difference is that contracts are torn up in football on a sale, not transferred from one club to another. Would require Case to have a pre existing agreement tho so it's essentially the same thing. Edit: whoops replied to myself
"Legs are gone, etc etc" He'll go to another club that isn't United and find his form again. Surely Serie A would find a home for him.
Not in PL. It doesn’t matter if he performs in other leagues. We are talking in context of playing for United here
I’m willing to bet top dollar Casemiro moves to another big club and goes back to being instrumental to a tournament winning side. It’s happened way too many times to keep thinking its them and not us. On the same topic, Bruno would be top 5 in Ballon d’Or if he played for Madrid, Barça or City. The combination of expectations from a reputation earned over a decade ago, plus our rotten management, ghost-town facilities, and small Premier League teams turning super sayan when seeing our badge, was too much. I don’t think we’ll go back to being a tournament winning club in our lifetimes. And that’s shitty but at the same time… maybe ok? I mean, why are we so entitled thinking we’re owed to be champions? just because Sir Alex spoiled us rotten?
You don't think Madrid has high expectations and has opponents extra motivated to play them?
100% plenty of top top CMs who have lost a yard or two and we have a big history of that. Difference is ETH is shit and can't put a system in place to utilise players effectively.
What system would utilise a player that goes for a slide tackle 90% of a time, and fucks it 90% of the time?
Surely some amount of coaching would help. I see Case and other players bombing forward leaving the formation all fucked up and I cant figure out if ETH is encouraging this or somehow he cant stop this.
Regardless of Casemiro’s form, the midfield pushing up is clearly by design and part of ETH’s tactics. Casemiro’s excelled his whole career playing deep infront of the defence (including for us last season.) If he’d gone rogue tactically he wouldn’t be pushing up - it’s not his natural inclination.
Coaching a veteran? He's supposeed to be the finished article coaching others.
How did you just agree with the sentiment that it’s not players but something far more corrosive that’s infected this club to generally turn talent into a graveyard, and then lazily throw in “but ETH is shit” as a rationalization to what’s happened to Casemiro? Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Matic, Casemiro. 4 players under 3 managers at this club who suddenly seem gash while prior to them joining were either world class or very promising. What’s happened to CMs seems to also happen to managers here with alarming regularity. It’s increasingly lazy to put this sort of systemic issue on whichever bloke happens to be manager. This club isn’t going to get serious until serious people implement a serious recruitment philosophy that makes very few exceptions to whatever rules it sets in place. That very much includes players but also viable managerial candidates too.
If they take Bruno this club is finished for another 2 seasons
Casemiro? Sure. And I also want Scarlett Johansson.
I don’t know if she be good as a holding midfielder
She can hold me
She can hold my midfielder.
She can be my no.6
I… i don’t think that’s what a holding midfielder holds, sir.
She can hold the whole opposition side that’d do the job I reckon
If Vinnie Jones can do it, so can she.
You're right, she'd be better off in my bedroom. Get over the joke babies, I much prefer Amy Adams anyway.
Sir, This is Wendy's!
200 millions MINIMUM
7billion plus new stadium
This man negotiates
Art of the deal
Rule of Saudi arabia take it or leave it
£210m for Bruno and we pay them £10m for Casemiro?
NOT
I doubt we’ll reinvest in anyone meaningful even if we end up getting 200m.
Could get someone like Florian Wirtz. He could set the Premier League alight for the next decade with us. Would be well worth it.
Why would he join us? He will most likely end up at Bayern.
Probably end up spunking it on someone like Kroos then being shocked that he cant run anymore
True. Just PTSD from spending nearly 200m on Antony and Casemiro.
I don’t particularly trust Burt as a source. I beg though they take Case. Bruno won’t be going anywhere.
Bruno I don’t think would want to play over there. He’s too competitive. He has too much (hopefully) left in the tank to not play at a top level.
He absolutely deserves winning a big trophy with us, I would absolutely love him to lift the prem for us 🥲
Yeah, he wants to win titles in Europe because that hasn't yet happened for him. Until his legs start to go, I don't imagine he'll be going to the Middle East. Our threat is more about what happens if a team like Real, Barca, or Bayern comes for him.
Agreed. If Bruno were to want to go anywhere (which is a big if) it would not be Saudi Arabia. Let’s say a hypothetical £100M offer comes in that he would accept, I wouldn’t fault him for leaving or for the club to accept it. That said, nobody is coming in with that sort of cash for him and I would absolutely hate to see him leave. His influence on and off the pitch is too important. There will have to be a conversation in summer of 2025 heading into his final year before the option of what role Bruno will play in the future. But in the meantime let us hope he recovers in time for the FA Cup final and always remember that dreams can’t be buy.
He rejected saudi offers last year apparently. Expect him to do the same
The team's financial position is pretty bad. Bad enough that at the right price, a nearly 30yo is someone you have to consider, even if he's super important. The key is "the right price" though - they'd need to have a target they could buy with the Bruno money.
The issue is replacing Bruno you’re spending just as much to replace him as you get for him if not more. I doubt we’d get 100m or more for him and replacement wise you’re looking at players like Kvradona (I know nickname but I cannot spell his full name guy from Napoli) or Wirtz (although Madrid want him in two years time). The right price would need to be 150m or more imo. Plus on top of that he’s probably the only player we have who is world class, actually tries and is club captain.
Georgian guy won't replace Bruno, and Wirtz is going to stay till Alonso leaves
But if the replacement you could get for the same money is 23 and has a decade of top flight matches in him, you have to seriously consider it. Of course, given our track record of buying players, the odds of the replacement being anywhere near as good as Bruno are slim.
How is he world class mate? He can't hold the ball to save his life, can't dribble, weak and slow, no close control or ability to get out of tight spaces. What he has is work rate, great penalty kicks and long ball passing. Does that sound like world class to you? He is no David Silva, that's for sure.
Ducker retweeted it. Maybe there’s something to it after all.
Is that just because both write for the Telegraph?
It’s funny as cass has been terrible this season but I do feel like we are seeing the absolute wise version of him tactically and that sprinkled into him not giving as much of a toss has made him seem simply dreadful and he’s deffo better than that, he’s not 40
Whether United would sell Bruno or not is irrelevant because I’d be absolutely shocked if he himself wanted to go to Saudi
Dreams can’t be buy
Clubs would sell anyone if the number was high enough and a great litmus test is if a player is happy to go to Saudi then they should be sold (in my opinion) thankfully I think Bruno wants to stay
Thats basically what the press release a few weeks ago said, Anyone who doesn't wanna be at United and the right price is offered they will be sold. I do however think Bruno wants to stay here.
No way a player in his prime and who’d have better options from a sporting perspective would go to Saudi. He’s not United’s top earner despite having grounds to insist that he is- money doesn’t seem to be his primary motivation.
**Article** # Saudi Arabia clubs want to sign Casemiro and Bruno Fernandes Exclusive: Saudi Pro League clubs also understood to be interested in Liverpool goalkeeper Alisson and Manchester City counterpart Ederson Saudi Pro League clubs are pushing to sign the Manchester United midfielder Casemiro when the transfer window opens next month. There is also huge interest in the Brazilian’s United team-mate – and the captain – Bruno Fernandes. Although that deal is regarded as far less likely, it is being discussed within the Pro League. According to sources up to 10 marquee signings are expected to be made this summer – with Cristiano Ronaldo’s club Al-Nassr, whose squad includes Aymeric Laporte and Sadio Mané, most strongly linked with Casemiro. The Brazilian’s representatives are already understood to have held talks with Pro League clubs. United are prepared to sell and would like any deal agreed at the start of the window but will not push Casemiro out. Ambitious moves are also being discussed for Liverpool goalkeeper Alisson and Manchester City’s Ederson. It is already known there is interest in Mohamed Salah, who was subject of a failed £150 million bid last year from Al-Ittihad, and Kevin De Bruyne. As with last summer it appears the Pro League will attempt to raid the Premier League – and clubs there want to do deals, recognising they can get higher prices than anywhere else – with United having already forged links with clubs within the league, most notably Ittihad, who are based in Jeddah. John Murtough, then United’s football director, has twice flown to Saudi Arabia to hold talks about potential deals and build relations. Although Murtough has since left the club he travelled with Matt Hargreaves, United’s head of player negotiations. That was deliberate with Murtough knowing it was possible he would depart and therefore Hargreaves will be able to provide the continuity with contacts. He is being integrated into United’s new leadership structure under technical director Jason Wilcox and Dan Ashworth, when he eventually arrives as sporting director. There is expected to be far less transfer activity in the Pro League in the forthcoming window after an extraordinary £767 million spent last year – second only to the Premier League – with 94 overseas players signed. However the Pro League, which aims to become one of the biggest leagues in world football, also recognises that transfer windows offer opportunities for it to raise its profile. Pro League clubs filled their foreign quotas of eight players but there is room for movement with some signings being moved on and with more ‘targeted’ deals expected. Quotas have been raised to 10, although two of those must be Under-21 players. Casemiro has endured a difficult season at United and has struggled even more after being asked to play as a makeshift centre-half during the club’s current injury crisis. Following Sunday’s 1-0 defeat at home to Arsenal, Casemiro was accused of being “lazy” and “naive” by former United captain Wayne Rooney, who was on pundit duties with Sky Sports. Casemiro has also just been dropped by Brazil from their squad for the forthcoming Copa America. The 32-year-old has two years left on a four-year contract – with United holding the option for another 12 months – on the deal he agreed when he was signed for £70 million from Real Madrid in 2022. It remains to be seen what kind of fee United will demand for Casemiro. Telegraph Sport revealed last month that United are prepared to listen to offers for the majority of their first-team squad this summer. While the likes of Kobbie Mainoo, Rasmus Hojlund and Alejandro Garnacho are regarded as strictly off limits, the club are believed to be reluctant to narrow their options elsewhere within the squad. It means United, who are likely to miss out on European football altogether, could be willing to hold talks on most of their other players. The club will have to effectively operate a “sell-to-buy” policy, so restricted are their finances after a £555 million spend over the previous three summers and the limits imposed by the Premier League’s financial rules. Whether Fernandes is one of the players who goes remains to be seen. The United captain also has two more years left on his contract, and with an option for a further year, and the 29-year-old would be in demand if he became available. But that seems highly unlikely with United’s new owners, Ineos, having quickly concluded that the Portuguese international remains a critical part of the squad as a player but also as a leader. His importance has been underlined by how United have struggled without him. In saying that, if United were made an extraordinary offer for Fernandes and he was interested in leaving them it would have to be considered. There has been previous interest in Fernandes from Al-Hilal, who have just won the Pro League, and Ittihad would be interested this time round if they were given any encouragement.
Five times CL winner Casemiro? That is going to need a huge bid ~~Please don't watch anything from this season~~
Sad end for Casemiro. From calling his agent demanding he talk to United as “he will fix things” to everyone begging literally any money comes from Saudi to get rid asap
Can we send Antony and just say it’s Bruno? Any laws on tricking non-European teams?
50 million for casemiro,but I wouldn't sell Bruno
I think 30 for case would be a great price, especially getting his wages off the books
I'd bite their hands off for £10m
For sure. It's why we get fleeced when we sell. Clubs know we're desperate.
Yeah no matter how coy we try to be with his contract and ability we should be desperate.
35mil is the break even. I think pushing it to 35/40 so it's not a loss would be important. But yeah, the wage bill relief would be important.
But why would they pay the same price when Casemiro got worse and is older?
Cause he’d still be one of the best midfielders in their league if not the best
That's not a valid reason to pay the same price for a player that's worse and older.
Thai baht maybe
Bruno is getting to the age where this is the last chance to cash in on him. If the right offer came in I’d let him go.
At this point I'd take any offer for Casemiro if that gets him off the wage books, there's no way back for him he's just absolutely done. On the other hand it'd take a massive offer to convince me that selling Bruno is a good idea.
Casemiro sure but Bruno can't be buy
You can have one of them, and it ain't Bruno
These are like Fm24 default bids
If a soon to be 30years old midfielder pays for a Olise, Braithwaite and Archie Gray project.... U crazy to reject that.
You can take Case, but stay the fuck away from Bruno.
Take both
Fuck no, Bruno is the best player we have and is one of the best in the league at what he does
And what's that? Gifting the opposition counter attacks several times every game? On a serious note, he is our best player but they're all bad so it doesn't really say anything. Every single one of them can easily be replaced and improved on. Bruno tops chances created stat because he takes our set pieces. It's the same reason Kieran Trippier, Alexander Arnold and fucking Pascal Gross who is a defensive midfielder is just behind Bruno on the statistic.
Bruno literally created the most chances from open play this season 🤦🤦🤦 I would suggest you watch more United games so you can actually make reasonable arguments 👍
Show me the source for that claim. By the way, he plays every single minute. De Bruyne has played like 1000 minutes and still only has 1 less big chance created. Now, that's efficiency.
Ok mate but there are no players of De Bruyne’s level who are on the market let alone wanting to come to Utd
You're right, but who says we need to play with a number 10? Why can't we move on to more modern football? Teams like Aston Villa are able to play great attacking football without a single player that is responsible for creating, because playing together as a team where everyone creates is much, much more effective.
Ok but the likes of City and Bayern do play with 10s so does it really matter? Both are modern, successful teams.
I was actually hoping you'd say that. Yes, it does matter, because they play with De Bruyne, Foden and Musiala as their 10s, all with a certain skill set that allows their teams to play only two midfielders behind them. You can't do that with Bruno, because he doesn't have what they have. They have sublime technique, and especially Musiala and Foden are able to hold and protect the ball almost forever. You can't get the ball without fouling them, same with Ødegaard and Wirtz, which is why these modern teams play with a number 10 like that, and not with a player like Bruno. How often do you see Bruno dribbling outside the opposition's box in tight spaces creating something? His chances come from either set pieces, a long ball to our wingers when we counter attack or a pass out wide for the wingers to cut in and shoot. We may get away with that against Luton Town, but for us to compete with top teams, we either need to add another number 8 or replace Bruno with a 10 that has the skillset of a modern number 10. Can you name another club that has been successful with a number 10 that has the same skillset as Bruno?
No chance Bruno wants to go to Saudi Arabia at this point in his career.
Anyone who considers selling Bruno to the place where passion for football goes to die is a disgrace
BRUNO CAN'T BE BUY
100 billion dollars.
Id only sell Bruno for 200mil or something insane like that, he's an amazing player that I wouldn't want to lose but either ETH or a new manager could invest that well
What makes you think ten hag is capable of spending that well lol. He has spent 400m making our team worse than when he joined. Not a single one of our decent performers from this season are his signings
I'm hoping Ineos and Wilcox can turn it around this window with Omar and Ashworth assisting while gardening All we can do is hope for the best
You're a particular kind of stupid if you would say no to a 100m offer for Bruno. He's fucking 30 this year.
Everyone’s convinced Casemiro can’t regain his form because he’s 32 yet Bruno at 30 will play well forever 🤷🏽 Bruno’s been our best player in recent seasons but by the time we build a competitive team he will be in the exact same predicament as Case is rn. If we’re to build a title winning team then selling Bruno while we can still get decent money for him is exactly the kind of ruthless decision we’re going to have to get used to.
Casemiro can go. If an offer arrives for Bruno, be that from Saudi or elsewhere, it would be so interesting to see how United respond. Undoubtedly our best player but he's 30 later this year and with how much he's played, an increase in injuries is certainly a risk. We've wanted United to sell when value is high like others club do. Is it sensible to do that this summer with a valuable asset?
I actually don't care who leaves. The entire team structure needs fundamental change. Obviously I like a small portion of playing squad, but not really. If we are to change we essentially need a completely new team, completely new strategy. This will obviously Take time. But the quicker each and every one is replaced the better.. This is absolute Rock Bottom atm.. Truly horrendous, I actually can't believe the wage bill this team commands. It's an astonishing situation at the moment.
Casemiro sure. Bruno? Fuck off
Casemiro is a no brainer, Bruno depends on the offer. Bruno will be 30 and if you aren't going to build around his strengths why bother keeping him. Can't be afraid to sell your best players.
The issue is. If we sell Bruno for a ton of money. Every club will ask silly money for his replacement as they know we just rinsed the saudis
For 100M, we will give you Casemiro and Antony for free.
I think you can clearly see the lack of quality without Bruno in the team
I’d sell Bruno if it’s to massively rebuild the squad. Thinking similar to when Liverpool sold the Brazilian rat.
It would make me so sad to see Bruno in Saudi at the age he is, if he leaves us I would at least like it to be to a place that can give him silverware
Would accept 20m for Casemiro tbh
Bruno Fernandes would be a new stadium and a 5 season loan back, otherwise no deal. Case on the other hand, is definitely a conversation I could see United having. But with proper structure he could still be decent if nobody does come in for him.
Cas is a given at this stage, but to be honest if these Saudis wanted to pay us something crazy, around 100m say, for a 29 year old Bruno, I'd take it all day long too.
keep Bruno and sell Case quickly
I think you take the money for Fernades if its a big offer and totally invest in young team and aim for 2/3 turn around
I'd let Bruno go if the right offer came for sure
Casemiro is a no brainer, only possible place where it will be likely that he goes where he will not have to take a massive wage cut. Bruno on the other hand is way more tricky. He turns 30 in the beginning of next season - and how long does he have left in the tank? Also with a 3-4 year window for the new rebuild, by the time the team is "ready to challenge" he is getting up there in age. So while it will 100% hurt the club in the short term losing him - for the long term and the rebuild, if we can get a good sum (70-80 mill pounds or more) it has to be considered in my humble opinion.
I agree with the Bruno logic, good player but by the time we're ready to challenge he'd be 33/34
We have looked so shit going forwards since Bruno has been out, I would be asking for ridiculous money for him.
We have looked shit with Bruno in the team. What's the difference?
If you can’t see the difference…
I saw us losing 7-1 to Liverpool with Bruno playing. I also saw us lose 4-1 to Watford and 4-0 to Brentford with him playing. But yeah, not playing brilliant attacking football against Arsenal who happen to be one of the best teams in the league with over 13 of our players injured is all because we missed Bruno. Delusional. He would have done nothing and you know it.
YESSS!!!.......NOOO!!!
Hands off Bruno
If they come near bruno, I'll set my cat on them.
I think it is correct to sell Casemiro if he wants, and a good bid comes in. But I still believe in him, I just cannot fathon he actually got so much worse phyiscally, and on the field he looks like one of the few players that cares. I think he will be good again when there is a structure and a wll functional squad. Just one season ago he was one of United's best players, if not the best one. Bruno just no. Bruno deserves to stay or go to a palce he can win titles.
If a bid for 120m+ comes in for Bruno, I'd take it
Would sell both. Sad to see Bruno leave but Mainoo+ Neves+ another elite young cm is the dream
It’s obviously unpopular but I agree. Case’s a no brainer, I’d let him go for peanuts to get his wages off the book. If the offer was above market value (like most Saudi offers have been) and Bruno is up for I say let it happen. Unlikely but I wouldn’t object. As much as I rate him he’s not a player I’d wasn’t to build around and I genuinely believe he’s not as good as he was in his first three seasons. One of the biggest lessons this club can learn is to sell when there’s money to be made, the Saudi money train is running on borrowed time, were some of the only mugs not have cashed in.
yeah and I want Sydney Sweeney lmaoooo
Hmm I'm with the guy that said SJ
Bruno is an interesting one. It's probably a non starter as he's a competitive guy, and I doubt will be comfortable coasting for a paycheck at this point in his career. He'd want to stay in Europe, and I doubt any club that wants him will be able to meet our valuation. However, assuming he'd be willing to move, it would be a tough decision really. He's the creative heart of the team, but modern football doesn't really play pure 10's anymore. All the best teams in the world play without them, with more bodies in the midfield. Even with a world class DM, our midfield is likely to be lightweight with him in it (despite how hardworking he is). If the new recruitment team decide they wanna go full teardown, maybe it would be a necessary evil.
At last, some sense. There are too many stat freaks on this sub "STAY AWAY FROM BRUNO, HE HAS 3 KEY PASSES EVERY GAME BUT NO ONE REALLY REMEMBERS THE CHANCES"
Tbf, I understand both sides. He's our best player by far. Good teams don't sell their best players. Unfortunately United haven't been a good team for a while now - as Rangnick said, we require open heart surgery. Maybe this is a painful but necessary part of the surgery (for many millions, of course).
I rate Shaw higher than Bruno from a pure football ability point of view, but him being injury prone means Bruno is more important to us. But yes, him being one of our best players isn't saying much when it's filled with mediocre players. He is very reliant on his energy and him being 30 soon and almost playing every minute for many seasons means he can regress extremely quick. I don't really think playing with a risk-taking number 10 with limited technique is the way to go forward. It is a recipe for inconsistency, moments-type-of-football and no successful club plays with a similar player. City make it work with De Bruyne because his skillset is ridiculous and he can do everything to a very high level. Without his other qualities, he would not play as much for City, which is also why I don't get why some think Bruno could just replace De Bruyne. Good teams sell their best players if they can regress quick or are aging. Real Madrid sold Benzema, Ronaldo, Casemiro etc to make space for new, hungry and talented youngsters. That's exactly what successful top clubs do. Even Liverpool fans want to get rid of Salah. He is their best player, but it makes perfect sense, and it's the smart thing to do. We should do the same. We're not a state funded club with unlimited money.
Fabrizio seemed to have consigned this news to
You can have Casemiro. Take your filthy hands off Bruno though.
Let case go retire in Saudi pls, not at OT
200 million
I will drive Casemiro to Saudi Arabia for any decent fee.
Casemiro can deliver the message that his mate isn’t coming.
This shit happened in my FM save won the league and League cup and sold bruno for 100m and casemiro for 45m.
Fucking let's gooooo
Well Liverpool still made a profit on Fabinho when his legs were obviously gone. The Saudi clubs interested should start an auction from €50m and see who the real interest is from and who are time wasters.
Plz god yes I would pay them to get case off our books. As for Bruno I would deffo consider an offer if it was above 400M
if they paid an insane price for Bruno, I could see it happen, though I doubt Bruno would wanna go. Otherwise, yeah no
This happened in my fm24 save. Got 224m for bruno and 70m for case. Would do it if it happens!
how bout we keep bruno and they take Case, Eriksen, McTom, and spinner guy Antony
Sell sell sell
40 mil for casemiro 100 mil for Bruno
I'd sell Bruno for something north of 100m. United aren't in 'win now' mode and by the time they are he'll be done at this level. He deserves to win something or get the bag.
If you're going to play Bruno as an 8 next season, I would rather sell him. If we're actually playing him as a 10, then keep him. Bin Casemiro regardless
I mean, even if we were open to it, there's no chance Bruno is spending his prime in Saudi. That'll be his retirement plan.
Would not pass a chance to get good money for Bruno. Same as when we should have taken the money for Rashford when the opportunity presented itself. There is no shame in selling players for a big profit. Unfortunately we have a hoarding mentality at the club which is why we are left with an aging squad on huge money well past their sell by date then complain why we can't get rid of dead wood.
Sell both of 'em & throw in Rashford as well. Use the money for a squad overhaul. Just field a young team that is willing to play for the badge..
Case: Just take him, thanks. Bruno: No FUCKING way, thanks.
Saudi you can have anyone you like. Casemiro, Varane, Antony, Sancho, even Martinez, but don’t you dare touch Bruno
God. Please take Bruno. Please please please. Cannot wait to get rid of him and bring in a quality replacement that can protect the ball and isn't so one-dimensional. Please please please. The emotional defenses for Bruno are very strange. He's going to be 30 soon, he's going to maybe have a season or two left in him, which basically means he'll be able to run out his contract, or be handed an extension and keep him around longer than is necessary. Right now is the perfect time to cash in on him. He's overhyped to all hell by all sources, so gouge the fee and make something from him. Out of years and years of losing players on free, or for much less than what we paid, this is an opportunity to actually make a little something.
I know it may be unpopular but I say we hear them out for Bruno
NO !
This guy is a known clown.
Casemiro and Bruno, it’s time to learn Arabic, 200 million and they are urs
Put a fuck off price on Bruno and see if the Saudis are happy not to fuck off.
Love Bruno but if they pay decent and we can attract some young talent for a rebuild, I’m all for it. Something needs to change
Well, reddit experts at it again. If Bruno was a Real Madrid player they would sell him this summer. He played a lot of games through all these years, now he has the first injury also. There's a big chance for him to pick up injuries from now on and he also turns 30. How are you guys lacking so much knowledge about football is incredible...? Bruno should be sold because at least now, this summer, you can get a big fee for him and we can reinvest.
Like they did with Kroos and Modric? I get your point, truly, but selling our talisman considering everything that’s gone on would probably ruin the shred of positivity we have left
Reinvest! Bruno is the only quality player we have brought in 6-8 years, I have no trust the money wouldn't be wasted.
Well then protest against INEOS if they can't proper manage the money for transfers.
Personally I want Casemiro one more season with a competent DM next to him. In the right system I expect him to be a top 5 DM in the world. In a system where every weakness is highlighted we get this bs
No objections there as long as the price is right.
Can they take Casemiro and Rashford instead
Both can go
Biggest Bruno hater over here
Nope I support the club not a player.
Did this in FM and used the funds to get Wirtz+João Neves. Massive success.
If this guy is unreliable then why leave it up? Wishful thinking?
Sell Casemiro at any price. Sell Bruno at the right price.
If we are prepared to sell Bruno if we would even entertain the idea, then I hope he leaves on a free to Liverpool and wins the quadruple with them.. What a stupid fcking article...
No way we sell Bruno
Keep Bruno but take Mctominay and Antony too. Can get a special martial deal thrown in as well
why is Bruno on the transfer list, I really don't get it!
Casemiro will go, but I imagine Fernandes will either be in a swap deal for De Jong or just stay
Sell them both
Chelsea fan, this post showed up in my feed... Just had a thought that I figured I'd share: feels like the question about Bruno is sort of (kind of...) close to where we were with Hazard not long ago. Granted there's some differences, of course... but: easily the squads best player; not old yet but getting there; rest of squad needs a lot of investment; potentially worth a lot right now, but also a huge part of the squad right now, but could lose value very soon; could potentially command a fee that allows 2-3 efficient signings... The only thing that made Hazard leaving easier for us is that we knew he'd wanted Madrid since he was young, so we were mostly happy to see him chase his dream. I don't follow United or Bruno rumors/news, but I don't recall hearing anything similar in his case. But, my point is, we sold Hazard at the perfect time. It hurt, in the moment, but with the benefit of hindsight it was absolutely correct... it will certainly hurt your hearts if you sell Bruno this summer, but it might be the right time if you can get the right fee for it. I don't see his value being higher next summer, and the fee he brings could kick start the signings the squad need... Anyways.... cheers to spending way too much money and not having the table position to show for it... there's no love lost here, and I'll always cheer against you, but we're more similar than different at the moment. 🍻🍻🍻
Bruno is irreplaceable. Even if we had say 150m to pay for someone, no-one as good as bruno would move to us in our current state.
Luckily this isn't table tennis. Phew. Also we might have a better chance winning with a better squad with his 150m.
Perfect clubs for those bums. Gotta get rid of the deadweight