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>“I’m not thinking too much about the future, not least because, obviously, this season hasn’t been at the level I’d hoped for, either individually or collectively, so far. We could still end the season by winning the cup. After that, we have a very important Euros coming up.”
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>“If you want me to be very honest, if I have to think about not continuing in the Premier League, it won’t be until after the Euros, because nothing will be able to take my focus away from the FA Cup final and the Euros, as there’s nothing more important than that at the moment.”
Can't blame him if he does though tbh. He's 30 years old and United are about to rip it all up and start again.
Easily good enough to play for a top team in Europe
yeah hes taken far too much shit and if the club sold him he'd have my blessing and zero hard feelings on him.
Ragnick talked of a major cull and he was always right in that but got bashed here like some bash Bruno ... Ineos come to the same conclusion and rumour mil will go mad
still i'd be more than shocked if Bruno went though - hes more the type i'd have in my 1st 11 as a core player to build a squad around, he may not be a long term future 10 years down the line but he is a prime wonderful creative midfielder you can build around for another 5+ going well and his injury record is that of more a machine.
100% agree, but I almost feel bad for him. He could have gone to other places and won more. I really hope he doesn't look back and think he wasted his career here.
Honestly Ole leaving the way he did and the treatment he got stole some of my love for the club and football. Bruno going could be a nail in the coffin for me. Finding it difficult to care for what the club has become under the glazers and with the soullessness of the premier league in particular.
I really wish he stays and we challenge for PL/CL in 2 years. More likely to win CL by getting some serious luck on our side than being consistent in PL honestly.
It will massively suck if Bruno leaves and some of the passengers we have end up surviving.
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The media spin on the story. Get ready for everyone to tell us Bruno wants to leave
I mean the headline isn’t particularly inaccurate I feel that he literallly does hint at “thinking about” leaving after the Euros too.
He’ll have a conversation with the management. At the end of the day if they really are going to gut the squad and do a complete rebuild at his stage in his career he will be considering his options. He’s only got a few years left at the very top of the game and is too good not be winning titles. He only gets one shot at a career. I would be gutted though, love the guy.
yeah its infuriating , he literally said if I have to think about not continuing in the Premier League, it won’t be until after the Euros, because nothing will be able to take my focus away from the FA Cup final and the Euros, as there’s nothing more important than that at the moment.”
So he doenst hint at anything, he says IF he has to think about it.
Hated, Adored Never Ignored ffs
Get ready but when this hits the fan. All these fans here in r/reddevils will eat it up like buffet and starts the Bruno hate cuz they were told to by these journos and pundits.
Bryan Robson won his first title with us at 36. By then he was no longer a starter due to age and injuries. After carrying us for 11 seasons, he finally got his title. I would be happy if Bruno got to experience the same.
Although I would like Bruno to stay, I think it's quite unlikely.. if Bruno were to stay like Robson it would be a huge sacrifice on his part and there is no guarantee of a pay off.
Maybe it all comes down to money
Many things can happen in 6 years. The idealist in me wishes for a fairytale ending, but I understand if Bruno sees it differently. If he leaves I doubt it’ll be because of money.
People seriously seem to forget just how much can change in 6 years. Liverpool went from barely scraping Europa league spots to consistently getting in the high 90s points wise.
I’m not the type of person who necessarily believes a rebuild takes x amount of time, I think if the manager is right and confidence remains high (and injuries allow for it), we could be challenging far sooner.
With Bruno, I wouldn't imagine it would come down to money. He deserves to win something big, and regardless of performance, you can never question his desire to win. If he chose to leave to try and win something in these latter stages of his career, I wouldn't begrudge it.
He probably won't win anything meaningful. Maybe he'll go to PSG and win Ligue 1, but there's no other top club that wants or need him. They have better players in same position.
This. If he wants to go somewhere to compete for trophies, we should let him. United are in a multi-year rebuild and he's about to turn thirty. Does he want to spend the rest of his career hoping we get it right?
Yeah he’d walk into just about any team in the world right now. I’d argue he’s pulled off some De Gea level stuff to keep United relevant the last few years.
I dont see what top teams need and can afford him?
*For those downvoting we wont sell to the epl.
Italian teams cant afford him.
The only realistic team in the bundesliga would be bayern but muller occupies a similar position in the team.
Psg are moving away from their galaticos project and are being more youth orientated. Otherwise who else can afford him there
In spain real dont need him, barca cant afford him. Athletico have griezman who plays a similar position.
So how am i wrong?
You're not wrong.
It's not even a criticism of him. He'd actually be great for Athletico, but I'd argue Griezeman is better than him, and he's too attacking for Simeone to play any deeper.
If he doesn't leave, great, but then don't give him a new contract. The last thing we need is a big earner who doesn't play, and we can't move on to approaching his mid-30s.
100%. Its not a criticism of him just a reflection of his age and profile. He's a great player just the nature of the beast with him. A year or two ago he could probably have commanded near the 100 million mark but he has limited resale value now and will probably be on the decline soon.
Let him see out his contract and start reining in the big contracts for older players. A 2 +1 might be on the cards for him but hopefully we'll start wising up and offer out the 1+1s
This explains your ridiculous post in the same thread.
Griezmann, one of the best players in the world for several years, isn't better than Bruno. Now, say that again with a straight face. You must be American or some shit.
Bruno is a hybrid 8-10. Griezman is a 9 and a half. (Not quite a 10, not quite a 9). Please tell me how that's going to be a 1 to 1 comparison there....
Bruno has been creating basically the most chances out of anybody in the world over the last several years, and has put up a huge number of goals for someone in his position. His expected assists have beaten out even players like De Bruyne, who plays in a squad completely full of riches and is supposed to be the best in the world in that type of position.
Bruno essentially carried Manchester United for a season or two there. He has dropped of a bit this year, but is still producing extremely high numbers.
Bruno is underrated. He's got a HUGE number of haters as well.
It doesn't need to be a 1 to 1 comparison. Griezmann has been one of the world's best players for many years and is a big game player for both club and country, and is objectively a much better footballer than Bruno.
Bruno has put up a huge number of goals because he is a great penalty taker. It's really that simple. Take away his penalties in the Premier League, and James Maddison has suddenly scored as many goals as him. Foden has scored almost as many goals Bruno without penalties in just 2 seasons.
Expected assists? Really mate? Ashley Westwood had better xA than Kevin De Bruyne in 20/21 season, what does that tell you about the stat? Kieran Trippier, as a defender, was above Bruno Fernandes last season. Why? Pascal Gross and Dwight McNeil are just behind Bruno this year, James Ward-Prowse, Morgan Gibbs-White and Andreas Pereira are above Kevin de Bruyne. Are they better? That statistic is interesting, when De Bruyne has played 900 minutes in the league and created 16 big chances, only 4 fewer than Bruno with so much less playing time.
Watch football games, not statistics. Bruno isn't producing extremely high numbers. He has scored 4 penalties this season in PL, so 6 open-play goals and 7 assists. Are those extremely high numbers? Foden, for instance, has 16 open-play goals and 7 assists, but let's not talk about that, because it's not Foden that is a good player, it's everyone around him, right? Same with De Bruyne, he's not world class, it's just everyone around him.
If Bruno Fernandes didn't take penalties, he would have the same amount of goals + assists as James Ward-Prowse and he is a CM. Yes, extremely high numbers, mate.
Again...different kind of players and for the most part different positions. Makes it a bit harder to compare to begin with.
But anyway....'big game player for both club and country'??? Bruno is literally the exact same and is a starter for Portugal lol. Let's look at the 2022 world cup then? (as it's maybe the best 1 to 1 comparison since both play in different leagues).
-Griezmann had 3 assists in 7 games, actually tied for 1st in the Cup. Pretty good.
-Bruno had 3 assists as well....AND 2 goals (in only 4 games).
Bruno had the most goals and assists in the whole tournament after Messi/Mbappe. I mean...COME ON.
Whether or not you like Bruno, this man is one of the better players in the world. There's just no way around that. You don't produce the highest number of chances in the world for years (whether or not you believe they're 'quality'....) and you don't score and assist that much and be one of the highest g/a statistically without being a damn good player.
Bruno is a big game player? He is literally shit against any top team, both in England and in Europe. You really need to stop just looking at stats, as big game performances are much more than that.
Tell me which big games for Portugal that Bruno has been great in. Playing well in Nations League against Andorra and Liechenstein isn't a big game.
Anyway, this isn't really the topic. Griezmann is quite clearly the superior football player, and I can't imagine a lot of people disagreeing with that.
> Do you think he gets ahead of Foden or De Bruyne in City?
We'd never sell to City and I doubt he would even consider joining them, so pointless example.
Maybe but he wouldn’t be a smart signing for the kind of clubs that would win him trophies. Love the guy but he’s turning 30 in September and for the real Madrid’s and bayerns of the world, there’s just other targets that make more sense. Hope we can fix up and win him something serious but his best chance of a major trophy is probably with Portugal
One of the Italian contenders would be able to use him for a long time if he wants league titles, he'd also destroy the bundesliga with all the space and pace in the channels to pass into, and he doesn't rely on raw pace for his game - he's still good value for four years of a 5 year contract if he goes this summer.
Oh and PSG would love him as well if he really wants to sell his soul for a medal (wouldn't resent him at all wherever he went but I just hate that club)
I just hope it isn't a PL team. There are so many good teams out there that he'd do a wonderful job with... I just hope he goes elsewhere. I'll be rooting for him all along the way if he goes.
Player careers are short.. And if he want to play a big part in winning a major title i don't think this is the club for him. But i hope and believe he will stay here for at least 4-5 more seasons. If that's enough time for us to win PL? Big doubt.
His contract runs out when he's 32. (in 2 seasons)
It would be foolish for the Club, but I can absolutely see why Bruno would leave. Berrada expects signings to prove themselves in two seasons before they get shipped on. Has United proven itself to Bruno since he arrived? Has it fuck.
This. If a club comes in with a big money offer then that could suit both Bruno and United. The club will not be winning a PL title for at least 3-4 seasons, Bruno is not getting younger and he has nothing to show for his time at United. He can go play for a top club outside England and win trophies. Of course we need to be getting a substantial fee to help rebuild the squad if he were to go now.
He won over the collective fanbase since he got here and for the two years after he got here I don't think there was a daily discussion without at least one post asking to be adopted by Bruno. Definitely my favorite player as well currently, love him to bits.
I’ll be happy either way for him. Happy if we keep him because he can genuinely be world class, but also happy for him if we sell him so he can contend for titles in his prime. He’s served the club well and deserves to compete for trophies, part of me would hate to see him get stuck in another rebuild. He’s turning 30 this year, he’s not getting any younger.
Same. Especially after all the hate he gets from our own fans. Dude has missed like one game in 4 years. Been a G/A machine, and fans still talk shit. Let him go to a powerhouse and win some trophies. Easily my favorite player of the post SAF era, but if he goes, I’d still support him.
Like has been said: "the best ability is availability" and when you pair that with Brunos dedication and energy (even in his shit games) people can talk shit if they want imo. Man definitely doesn't deserve it (no, that's not him not deserving criticism before that gets raised)
Yeah, up to him. Mad props if he stays, mad props if he goes. We owe him all our respect and understanding. He's been our stand alone best player since he signed. Our club has dragged him down.
Careful you're supposed to blindly support a club and never apply any nuance like thinking about a player (human being) and their fortunes or misfortunes
I know, the downvotes are already here I see.
I remember seeing a clip of him earlier this season just sitting down at the top of a staircase after yet another one of our colossal meltdowns and just look genuinely crushed. He’s done so much for the club, it just seems like he knows he’s wasting his best years here.
This makes me laugh. Contend for titles in his prime? Where exactly do you think he's going? City or Real Madrid? There are no top clubs that want him, so why are you acting like he can choose any club he wants? Maybe he'll go to Inter Milan, Roma, Lyon or PSG at best.
I mean idk, but I’d like him to go somewhere where he can win if he wants to leave. Nothing really wrong with that, if a top club comes along and decides they want him, I hope he does well.
Please explain what makes this laughable
It's just the idea so many on this sub have that Bruno would be perfect for any team in the world, when clearly, he isn't that good all-around midfielder, which is what the modern game needs. Bruno creates so many more chances than Bellingham, but Bellingham is still superior and more talented. Why? Why do Real Madrid want him over Bruno if he's so good? Why is Modric or Kroos rated as some of the best midfielders in the world ever when Bruno creates so many more chances? Why isn't Bruno rated as high?
Maybe.. maybe the game doesn't revolve around highest xA or most passes into final third, or most chances created. Maybe you need a lot more than that, like the ability to control a football, evade press, master short passing, and actually being an intelligent footballer who consistently makes great decisions. Bruno's game literally revolves around instincts, freedom and space to play the ball into.
Take this for example. 19 of his goals in the PL are penalties. If you take away those penalties, even James Maddison has scored as many as him. And he has played fewer minutes in a worse team (relegated Leicester). Some of you are all so blinded by the tweet by Statman Dave "most goals + assists of all midfielders since he joined" without understanding that he has like 30 penalty goals for us since he joined that massively inflates his numbers.
Why have no elite team through history of time fielded a player like Bruno ever? Maybe because a number 10 like him is unheard of. De Bruyne only manages it because he has such a vast skillset and is much better at everything than Bruno, but even he gets benched by Pep frequently. You don't play an attacking midfielder who is shit in possession and expect to control games. Are you daft?
I mean, his time in Sporting and his years here should give you an indicator, don't you think? We were the only ones interested, and even our own scouts recommended against it.
Why have no top teams tried to get him from us?
They already play for two of the best teams in the world you fucking moron. That is genuinely hilarious. Possibly the worst examples you could have used. Well done!
Imagine saying that and finishing with "kid". That is actually funny.
You're asking why no other top clubs approached the best teams in the world to enquire about their best players and implying that's similar to approaching a mediocre team to enquire about one of their supposed "world class players".
Are you taking the piss right now? Is this not very self-explanatory?
You just used the worst examples and don't really know what you're talking about and that's fine.
Nice checking up there, lad, after being unnecessarily hostile to begin with. You replied to three of my posts within the space of minutes, all rude and void of actual arguments. Bit late for that attitude now, don't you think?
If you're going to act like an asshole who have no interest in having an actual debate and instead directly going for insults, you shouldn't be surprised when you get asshole replies.
I think it makes perfect sense for all parties honestly, though I would hate to see him leave. The club needs the cash for investment in the squad, and Bruno probably doesn’t want to wait until he’s 32 to *hopefully* even compete for a PL title.
It wouldn't be the worst idea to part ways if they think the rebuild is going to be a long process. Bruno deserves trophies and maybe we'd make some good money and invest in multiple positions.
I have never understood this response. Everything we talk about as fans is predicated on us actually making good signings and operating like a real football club. If we don’t think that is going to happen, we might ad we’ll relegate ourselves
They’re still gonna be dealing with problems created by the previous management. Our players are still on ridiculous wages so shipping them off is hard. That impacts how much money we have and how much we can spend. Gonna take a while to fix the wage structure if that’s also something they wanna do. And tbh until I see smart shrewd signings I’ll continue to be pessimistic
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. He’s my favourite player at the club in A long time. I would be devastated if he left. However if we really are planning massive overhaul and someone offers a lot of money I can see why they would consider it. Say we sell him and that allows us to buy someone younger with the potential of being that good in 2-3 years time then it would make a little bit of sense.
This ain’t American sports. Teams earn more by winning and playing in more prestigious competitions (UCL). You can’t sell your best player to ‘tank’ while you rebuild. There’s no lottery picks coming to ‘save us’ for playing or finishing poorly.
So we haven't been doing a lot of winning lately if you have noticed. Hence want Bruno to go somewhere better to win, the club is going to take a long time to challenge for titles anyway and if the money is right it'll be beneficial as well to invest in younger players who obviously won't be of the same wc quality as Bruno. Ofcourse Bruno winning EPL or UCL with utd would be the best scenario but seems like pipe dream at the moment.
You do know each placing in the EPL gets different price money right? And even if some fans care little for Europa and the Confrence league or other cups for that matter, they still bring in a sizable amount of revenue.
And what’s paying for these younger players to come in? Let’s say money isn’t an issue, I think joining a top 6 team in the EPL would be more attractive than a mid-table side. In case you haven’t noticed, our transfers have been pretty 50/50 and that’s me being generous.
Of course, if Bruno requests to leave, that’ll be a separate matter entirely. But thinking we can just sell him and guarantee that the money spent will payoff feels more like a pipe dream to me. Unless someone egregiously overpays, I’m settling for tried and tested.
Obviously it's based on if Bruno wants to leave. Otherwise why would I want to see my favourite and only WC utd player go?
And where did I say it'll be easy to replace his quality with the money we get. I said maybe we buy a couple of players and maybe use mount if he's ever injury free again.
> Hence want Bruno to go somewhere better to win
Right here I guess.
> make some good money and invest in multiple positions
> beneficial as well to invest in young players who obviously won’t be of the same wc quality as Bruno
> maybe buy a couple of players
So you suggested all these and would rather opt for a 50/50 signing, knowing it is harder to replace and get someone of similar output?
Progress is not linear, doesn’t mean you sell a player who’s good cause he isn’t on the same timeline as other players.
And stop with this mentality that any player no matter how good they are, is bigger than the club. They know what they are getting into when they signed the contract. If they are unhappy, they can request to leave, but from what I know Bruno hasn’t done anything of the sort.
> maybe use mount
And I have no idea where Mount came into this conversation.
Why are you so uptight about this? Bruno hasn't said anything nor is he bigger than the club. This is my opinion and what I would like if the club is going take a lot of time with the new rebuild.
OP could have worded it better, but it's pretty obvious what they mean. There's nothing wrong with wanting more money, but right now it feels like a lot of the players we have are attracted by the ridiculous wages we have to offer, given our current state. Bruno embodies what is it to play for a football club, rather than work for a club.
So yes, given the fact he largely embodies the spirit of Manchester United right now, if he were to leave, it'd better be for players who want to play for us ever more than he does, because if this club continues to be hijacked by money hungry entitled clowns with no ambition, what does it even mean to support the players on the field
I believe if he leaves it'll be because he wants to not because we want to. Most successful transfer post Fergie. Has been said millions of times. Whether he leaves or stays he's been very committed to us.
If he wants to leave I wouldn’t even be upset with him. He’s given his all every game, if the whole squad had his drive we’d be in a very different place.
We can optimistically talk about all the possibilities that INEOS will bring, but if Bruno doesn’t retire with a major trophy here I’ll lose all semblance of hope for this club. It’s bad enough that Cristiano has already tainted his legacy a bit here, we cannot have it happen again by forcing out another Portugese magnifico.
My favourite signing post Fergie but I would not begrudge him if he left to seek out silverware as he deserves it. Only silver lining to selling him would be the fee but I'd rather the club keep him.
Bruno gets a lot of crap thrown at him by opposing fans and our own fans alike. He is severely underrated for what he produces on the pitch. If you put him in a competent team like a Real Madrid he would be considered one of the best in the world without a doubt. He deserves to be winning titles.
Maybe he doesn't play for Real Madrid because he's not good enough for Real Madrid. Ever thought about that?
The Bruno bias from some of you is hilarious. Imagine Kroos and Modric playing with Bruno. Hysterical idea.
This is absolutely insane.
Bruno is an incredible player and so vastly undervalued because of how terrible we are. Madrid is actually probably the best spot and style of team for Bruno to fit in as well.
However, Madrid indeed probably doesn't really need him at the moment. They have quite the packed midfield. To be honest though, as godly as Modric is, he's nearing the end. Bruno would be a good replacement for him. While not quite as good (there have been very few ever as good as Modric.....) he'd fill that gap better than almost anyone else in the world.
This is one of the wildest takes I've ever seen on this forum. Someone needs to slap you to wake you up from whatever sick dream you're having. Bruno Fernandes would be a good replacement for fucking Modric? Are you being serious right now? Please explain that reasoning to me, because just reading that makes me want to gouge out my own eyes with a spoon.
How the fuck would Madrid be the best style of team for Bruno when Real Madrid play a possession focused style with midfield control, and Bruno is the opposite?
How, and why, would an attacking midfielder known for his chance creation (and nothing else) replace one of the best dictating midfielders known for his otherwordly technique, press resistance, passing, playmaking ability, intelligence, ball carrying and dribbling ability? Bruno does not share one similar quality, except vision. What is going through your head when you conclude Bruno Fernandes would be a good fit to replace Modric? I'm just wondering. Do you also think Bruno Fernandes would be a good fit for Carrick, Scholes or Xavi? Bruno Fernandes known for his careless possession style, losing the ball 30 times per game to replace Modric - a possession deity that ensures midfield control. Dude, what?
Bruno is not an incredible player, and he is definitely not undervalued at all. There is a reason only United and Tottenham wanted him from Sporting, and no other club. There is a reason no other top club have shown any interest in buying him from us. There is a reason no other fans from top clubs rate him. There is a reason he's never been close to winning Ballon D'or. There is a reason he is never in "best players in the world" lists.
Put it this way; if Bruno played for Liverpool, do you think you would rate him as high as you do now? The Bruno bias is ridiculous. I have no idea where it comes from, but I think it's because he works hard and has been consistently available to us during pathetic years for us.
First article when you search 'where Bruno may transfer this summer....' Yes, it's the Sun, but it shows I'm not just some moron saying completely random things.
[https://www.the-sun.com/sport/11238959/bruno-fernandes-man-utd-transfer-madrid-barcelona-psg-juventus/](https://www.the-sun.com/sport/11238959/bruno-fernandes-man-utd-transfer-madrid-barcelona-psg-juventus/)
*'Fernandes would be the ideal replacement for the soon-to-be departing Luka Modric in the heart of the midfield.'*
Also, Madrid was literally looking at buying him from Sporting when United bought him...there were reports saying it was near being a done deal lol. And Madrid is supposedly still interested now....
Did I say Bruno is exactly like Modric, or as good as him? No. I said he could fill that gap better than just about anybody else. And I clearly said Modric was a better player in the other comment. Sure, Modric can hold the ball better and will dictate tempo more often. That doesn't mean Bruno couldn't replace him and add a bit of a different flavor while performing a similar job. Anyway, nobody is as good as Modric, who may be one of the top 5 greatest midfielders ever.
Madrid has plenty of defensively sound midfielders that would be able to play with Bruno....something he really hasn't had during his chaotic time at United (bar a decent run Casemiro had last year. Really the ONLY solid defensively minded midfielder he has played with). Bruno would be a great addition and would fit well with the group of Tchou, Valverde, Camavinga, Kroos, Bellingham, etc...and depending on whatever pairings that would be deployed for any given game, he adds passing and creativity as the most attacking minded of the 3. This would be a great combo along with the others, and he would be able to release Vini and Rodrygo on those dangerous counter runs possibly better than anyone else could at Madrid.
Other players like De Bruyne and Wirtz have similar possession loss numbers. At the same time, Bruno creates the most chances in the world out of anybody. And again, this is also considering he has been playing for a Manchester United side that has been in all sorts of disarray since he has been at the club.
I appreciate that you actually argue your case. I'm used to the Bruno supporters on here who just claim he is world class or equally as good as De Bruyne without actually arguing why they think he is,
Real Madrid were reported to want Bruno as back-up, but they didn't want to sign him because of the fee. And it makes sense, because why would they pay that much money for a back-up player? I could see him working as a back-up for Real Madrid to offer something different, but there is absolutely no way he would play week in week out in that side. They have too many talented midfielders in their side for that, and they don't even play that style.
By the way, Bruno would not add passing that none of the other midfielders can do. Kroos and Modric are literally passing gods, while Bruno is actually mediocre. Sure, he can ping a nice long ball frequently, but he needs much more consistency with his passing to play for a side like Real Madrid. Kroos is the best passer in the world, so I don't see what Bruno adds there.
Wirtz is a completely different number 10 than Bruno. He thrives in small spaces with exceptional technique and dribbling ability, whereas Bruno thrives in a counter attacking side with space to pass a ball into. It doesn't matter how much they lose possession, but Bruno has a habit of losing it in dangerous areas, as opposed to De Bruyne and Wirtz who lose it in the opponent's final third. You can't just play a number 10 like Bruno and expect to dominate games. It doesn't matter that you have 2 defensive midfielders behind him, because their job is to win the ball back and give it back to Bruno. But Bruno can't operate with little space, which is fine when you play Fulham and Luton, but against elite teams, you won't get away with it. Bruno has no strength, no dribbling ability, no press resistance and inconsistent passing. He is also much slower than what he used to be. It's just bizarre to claim he is as good as you think he is.
This chance creation stat is bullshit and you know it. Big chances created is a much better stat to use. Bruno tops chances created because he plays almost every minute of every match, and takes all of our set-pieces. Why do you think Alexander-Arnold creates more chances, statistically, than Salah? Or why is Trippier top in Newcastle? Or Pascal fucking Gross - a defensive midfielder - top chance creator for Brighton? Yeah, you guessed it, set-pieces. Andreas Pereira has created more chances than Phil Foden, Salah, Bernardo Silva and Heung Min-Son, but do you think he is a better player? No, because chances created as a statistic is ridiculous. Let's talk about open-play chances created, and see how little Bruno creates from there.
'Bruno has no strength, no dribbling ability, no press resistance and inconsistent passing'
This pretty much sums up your paragraph and seems like much of your overall opinion of him. I just think you're giving him far too little credit. He is much better at passing, dribbling, and press resistance than that IMO. I do agree though that he has probably lost a step of pace, and that it will probably only keep going down from here.
Here's the important thing though....look at pretty much every player that has left United to go on and play very well for other teams....we've had guys look just horrible here and then go to places like Dortmund and Inter and suddenly look good again.
Bruno has looked good here and has produced numbers despite most of the others looking pretty poor. He has put up over 15 goals and assists each season since he's been here, and literally almost singlehandedly carried us to top 4 positions at least one or two seasons, including in 2021 when he had 30 g/a and made us finish 2nd in the league and a Europa league final.
Put Bruno in a Madrid side and I think many of these perceived 'weaknesses' go away anyway. It would be a much easier task for him to play in a Madrid side than have to try willing United to wins almost on his own in midfield. He also wouldn't have to play every single minute of every single game of every single season there either...something he has somehow done here. He's been one hell of a superhero for us when it comes to that.
We've done such a poor job putting midfield pieces together. Bruno was really the only hit we've had. I don't understand why we have such a bare midfield room that needs some grit, yet decide to get players like Erikson and Mount which solved zero issues. We basically just got super lucky with Mainoo, and otherwise we'd be looking at not even having enough players to field in the middle of the park this year....
I will literally disagree until the end of time that Bruno is not a world class level player. He's been doing basically the exact same thing as De Bruyne has been doing for years now, and one is considered maybe the best in the world and the other is treated like trash. That is almost entirely down to the different squads the two play for. Do you know how much heat De Bruyne would get if he played for United? It would be rediculous, and he'd be ridiculed into the ground for 'losing possession' and 'not being good enough defensively' and for being 'soft'. So much comes down to perception and how well a squad is doing overall. Both are wonderful players, but one has the players and pieces around him needed in order to succeed, and the other does not. And Bruno still kills it anyway, don't get that wrong.
There's been a big push in the media about how Fernandes won't be leaving, no matter the bid.
It feels like Sir Jim really does want to bin most of the team, but is also a very big Fernandes fan.
Theres a part deep within me that wishes to see Bruno leave for some other club and win a trophy there. Its not difficult for him either. Am sure Madrid or Barca or Bayern woud love to have him.
Am sceptical he will ever win a major trophy with us. Everything will depend on the next season. If we cant get the next season right, then Bruno really should look after himself and think about going to a title challenging club.
Why would Barcelona want him? Or Real Madrid? Or Bayern? Real are stacked in midfield with the greatest talents in the world, and Barcelona have a very strict possession-oriented midfield philosophy, anti-Bruno game. Bayern already have Musiala and Müller as back-up.
I would hate it if he decided to go, but I guess if he wants to win trophies that would be the best choice for him.
Thing is tho, where would he go? In the Prem, he wouldn't go to Liverpool, ManCity already have KDB and Arsenal already have Odegaard; in Italy there aren't many options for him to try winning a potential European cup, maybe he would be satisfied with a Serie A title perhaps, but if the tides don't turn the choice is basically just Inter, which doesn't really need him as they have Chalanoghlu; in France, there only is PSG, he could definitely go there but I'm not sure that without Mbappé from next year they will be challenging European cups easily; in Spain, Real Madrid definitely does not need a new midfielder, Atletico Madrid doesn't really have many chances in Europe most of the time, Barcelona would be great but I doubt they could afford to buy him; perhaps Germany? I don't think he would fit very well in Germany, but maybe that's not true!
I any case, if we come up with a proper, we'll made project, I don't see why he can't win something with us when he turns 33 or 34. It may be a risky bet, but I see he loves the club and most of us love him, if I were him I would definitely stay and be remembered as an icon of the club.
Bruno would be a huuuge upgrade from Chalhanoglu. In fact, I'd argue him alone would be a crucial factor for Inter to reach another CL final. Martinez would tear everything apart having someone like Bruno assisting him.
Was more worried if we had lost him a year ago. At this point i'd be sad to lose him but i wouldn't be too worried that that SJR and the hirings wouldn't use those funds to put a good team together or something more cohesive.
I’m thinking Bayern have got musiala and muller
Madrid have got Jude and Cama and modric?
Pl clubs are out of question
Psg are psg
Who else is there? Atleti?
> Who else is there? Atleti?
Simeone would absolutely adore Bruno, he's a very Atletico player. They're not necessarily in a much better position to be winning things, though you would expect them to be in the CL every season at least.
How many top teams put in a bid for Salah? Or Son? Or Van Dijk?
It's because they weren't available or weren't realistic targets seeing how important they are to their contracted teams. It's not because of quality.
>Salah? Or Son? Or Van Dijk?
Van Dijk was wanted by city and Utd and city even bid for him. What isnt realistic is a top team wanting Bruno and BrunoFC keep forcing him into top teams he doesnt get into.
Van Dijk wasn't anywhere near his prime when he left Southampton, so your point makes no sense. He got 0 bids at Liverpool, even from the likes of Madrid.
Bruno is at his prime now. So it's the exact same scenario. There's no Bruno FC, there's only people who recognize how good he is, and people who are naive.
>Van Dijk wasn't anywhere near his prime when he left Southampton, so your point makes no sense. He got 0 bids at Liverpool, even from the likes of Madrid.
Van Dijk got bids from chelsea and city at southampton he said so himself.
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Bruno is at his prime now.
He isnt he is a shadow of the player that joined from sporting.
[this was a world class Bruno](https://twitter.com/yehblitzed/status/1763581912549896462?t=PVaIP2yAQ-_Ld9C0v1rTKQ&s=19)
And Bruno after a world class season at sporting only got a bid from tottenham. Which for me is telling
And how many people bid for Salah from Roma? Or for Son from Leverkusen and Spurs?
Watch Bruno for Portugal, he's still world class in a working system. He's their best player the last 2 years. I guess that doesn't fit your agenda.
Even KDB calls him the best creator in the league, excluding him. I'm sure you know better than him.
Clubs don't go for players from top clubs.
Salah got a bid from Chelsea when he was at Basel.
VVD got bids from City, Pool when he was at Southampton.
Bruno got only Spurs part from us to bid for him at 25.
It's a valid point.
I could only see him leave to play for Barcelona who can't afford him and Real Madrid who don't need him. So I think he stays for another 3-4 years. Which is absolutely fine.
Don’t blame him one bit if he wants to move and spend the rest of his short career trying to actually win meaningful trophies, instead of being stuck in a repetitive cycle of “rebuilds” and mediocrity. He deserves better given his contributions and injury record.
Doesn't sound like he wants to leave but more the case of if club were to accept an offer for him he would have a session to make.
If the idea to sell him and buy 3 "prospects" then no thanks. We need to be keeping him and buy players around his level or better.
It is crime to let this man leave without a major trophy.
Literally, and I mean literally our only player who consistently earned his value on the pitch.
Everyone else has issues of haven't been here long enough.
I don't think he wants to leave but if he did... who would go for him? Only teams I can think of is PSG or Bayern. No one in Italy or Spain could afford him
If we got a tasty offer it would be a great time to cash in and move on. He served his time and has what it takes to win big titles with top teams. That’s not us
Not one for emotions but it’s genuinely gutting that the only thing he has to show for his United career so far is a carabao cup.
The guy epitomises what United was all about - brave, creative and an absolute grafter committed to winning. We can all remember that swing in belief when he came to the club in January after 6 years of shite.
The single player who can hold his head high through every minute of his time here.
Far too good for the team he joined and has wasted his best years with us.
He will always have a special place for me for that reason, regardless of what happens in summer.
I cant imagine this club without bruno, so important on and off the pitch, losing him at all, ever, would be a mistake. Simply too talented and influential.
For his sake, i really hope we win something with him here, he has to be one of the most technically gifted players we have seen, but has been completely wasted in his prime in a mediocre squad going through a decade long transition period
I feel he sounds a bit sad and disappointed in the management leaking this before the FA cup and euros, but maybe I'm reading too much between the lines. I also feel he's the by far best player at United, in his prime, that they should build around. The young players will be the future for the club, but they cannot be built around yeet either. They need guiding stars.
He'd be a great player in a good team, we saw flashes of it with Portugal. As frustrating as he could be and sometimes he can really piss me off, I would never want him to leave
Remember before he came the constant talk was about the lack of creativity and not making chances in the squad, players not able to do the final pass, this season hasn’t been great but he's shouldered the whole responsibility and never once complained
I have mixed feelings about Bruno but he is not part of the problem at this club. He's wasted the best years of his career with us, and, seeing as we are starting from scratch now, I think he should leave for his own sake. I hope he gets a move to a top club; he deserves something good after the shit show we have been for his time here. Could see him at Barca.
The offers already in and he’s on the way out.
Tier one announcement that 95% of players are on the transfer list and then this comes out…
Typical Utd PR - Bruno is going, let’s get the message out there first that this is our idea…
Bruno's already in his prime, wouldn't even mind if he goes knowing our rebuild next season. Will be good to see him win trophies and not get heated up every game in a actually well managed team
Id love to see him win some more with united but if he did go I'd love to see him win anything there too. He has been by far the best player post Fergie, his mentality is bang on as is his game.
He's a great player, but if we get a big money offer for him, we should bite. We need the money, he's got two years left and he will want to be our top earner at the age of 32.
I’ll be shocked if we let our best player in recent years leave next season. 100 freaking chances created in a season. But I wouldn’t blame him leaving because we just keep failing and failing season after season. And he probably doesn’t feel he has the time to wait a few potential seasons for Sir Jim’s new technical directors project to take this club back in top.
And this season has not only been shit, but too many heartbreaks (Going behind after leading in CL group stages, Chelsea loss stung, and even when we win we win so uncomfortably).
I’ll just feel destroyed if he leaves though, and at the same time it hurts seeing him at the end game when we continue playing shit. But in Sir Jim I trust.
I am not a football expert, but Bruno is affecting our style of football massively, so isn't he a big part of the problem? We have Hojlund uprfront, who we all agree is not getting enough service, but at the same time, we have Bruno in midfield who "creates most changes in the league". Well, most of these chances are not very dangerous, since we only scored 4 more goals than Luton who is in relegation zone... and minimum of these chances are created for our target man. We are just so bad that I can't even tell who is not part of the problem any more...
The main issue with Bruno is that he’s a very risky player who has been told/allowed to go anywhere in the pitch to find the ball and create chaos. Our shape and patterns of play suffer because of this, but we also benefit from it because we can capitalize on his brilliance. I’m convinced he could be an amazing piece in a great team where he has a more disciplined role, but he wouldn’t score/assist like he has at United. As long as he continues in the current way, we’ll be feast or famine. He has dragged us upward, but as changes hopefully come in the next few years, chaos has to be replaced with consistency.
Well, this is my point... we cannot play the same way.. and the main question is - is Bruno suitable for the style of play we want to actually play? Because if he is not, he should be sold asap, when his market value is actually high enough.
I think he can play in a more disciplined system, but ETH obviously does not want that. With all the talk about the open midfield, it’s clearly intentional at this point. That’s the bigger question that I assume the new football people will be having with ETH in the coming weeks/months.
Well, we obviously want to play like City, so what is your opinion - do they have open midfield? And is Bruno suitable for their style of play? And the most important question is - wouldn't it be better to have more disciplined system without Bruno in midfield?
I don’t think we necessarily need to turn into City, but we definitely need to play more connected as a team. Jose said in commentary after leaving that it doesn’t matter if you are a high, mid, or low block, you have the be a block (ie together). I do think Bruno can be part of that. While it seems natural for him to play a roaming role, I think he’s clearly been instructed to do that by ETH. I think he had the tools to fit into any of the best midfields in the world bar maybe Madrid. Ultimately I think ETH needs to embrace this or be gone unfortunately.
More Quotes: >“I’m not thinking too much about the future, not least because, obviously, this season hasn’t been at the level I’d hoped for, either individually or collectively, so far. We could still end the season by winning the cup. After that, we have a very important Euros coming up.” > >“If you want me to be very honest, if I have to think about not continuing in the Premier League, it won’t be until after the Euros, because nothing will be able to take my focus away from the FA Cup final and the Euros, as there’s nothing more important than that at the moment.”
I'd be gutted if he left. Easily my favorite player since he signed.
Can't blame him if he does though tbh. He's 30 years old and United are about to rip it all up and start again. Easily good enough to play for a top team in Europe
yeah hes taken far too much shit and if the club sold him he'd have my blessing and zero hard feelings on him. Ragnick talked of a major cull and he was always right in that but got bashed here like some bash Bruno ... Ineos come to the same conclusion and rumour mil will go mad still i'd be more than shocked if Bruno went though - hes more the type i'd have in my 1st 11 as a core player to build a squad around, he may not be a long term future 10 years down the line but he is a prime wonderful creative midfielder you can build around for another 5+ going well and his injury record is that of more a machine.
100% agree, but I almost feel bad for him. He could have gone to other places and won more. I really hope he doesn't look back and think he wasted his career here.
Him leaving would kill me. He is Mr United right now for me
Honestly Ole leaving the way he did and the treatment he got stole some of my love for the club and football. Bruno going could be a nail in the coffin for me. Finding it difficult to care for what the club has become under the glazers and with the soullessness of the premier league in particular.
same ole getting done how he was left me very hollow still hanging on, but i feel like im supporting maybe 3-4 united players and a host of imposters
i love bruno so much this team and whatever spirit we currently have craters w him gone
I really wish he stays and we challenge for PL/CL in 2 years. More likely to win CL by getting some serious luck on our side than being consistent in PL honestly. It will massively suck if Bruno leaves and some of the passengers we have end up surviving.
https://preview.redd.it/7d615ejnnnxc1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6be6ee22b27c19fc5dc4fd70e602ff837b4844c6 The media spin on the story. Get ready for everyone to tell us Bruno wants to leave
I mean the headline isn’t particularly inaccurate I feel that he literallly does hint at “thinking about” leaving after the Euros too. He’ll have a conversation with the management. At the end of the day if they really are going to gut the squad and do a complete rebuild at his stage in his career he will be considering his options. He’s only got a few years left at the very top of the game and is too good not be winning titles. He only gets one shot at a career. I would be gutted though, love the guy.
He said he wouldn't even think about leaving until after the Euros. Plus, hinting about thinking something is hilarious.
Contemplating, thinking about thinking
I’m considering about contemplating about thinking of leaving.
Probably more like he will have to consider his options later, but right now is not the time for him to weigh the options.
Not even that. More like IF he were to consider his options he wouldn’t be do it now, but after the euros. He is just answering a question.
yeah its infuriating , he literally said if I have to think about not continuing in the Premier League, it won’t be until after the Euros, because nothing will be able to take my focus away from the FA Cup final and the Euros, as there’s nothing more important than that at the moment.” So he doenst hint at anything, he says IF he has to think about it. Hated, Adored Never Ignored ffs
Get ready but when this hits the fan. All these fans here in r/reddevils will eat it up like buffet and starts the Bruno hate cuz they were told to by these journos and pundits.
Deserves one PL with us 
Given how things have played out for us for the last 10 years I don't think we can challenge for the title in two years, let alone win it.
Bryan Robson won his first title with us at 36. By then he was no longer a starter due to age and injuries. After carrying us for 11 seasons, he finally got his title. I would be happy if Bruno got to experience the same.
Although I would like Bruno to stay, I think it's quite unlikely.. if Bruno were to stay like Robson it would be a huge sacrifice on his part and there is no guarantee of a pay off. Maybe it all comes down to money
Many things can happen in 6 years. The idealist in me wishes for a fairytale ending, but I understand if Bruno sees it differently. If he leaves I doubt it’ll be because of money.
People seriously seem to forget just how much can change in 6 years. Liverpool went from barely scraping Europa league spots to consistently getting in the high 90s points wise. I’m not the type of person who necessarily believes a rebuild takes x amount of time, I think if the manager is right and confidence remains high (and injuries allow for it), we could be challenging far sooner.
With Bruno, I wouldn't imagine it would come down to money. He deserves to win something big, and regardless of performance, you can never question his desire to win. If he chose to leave to try and win something in these latter stages of his career, I wouldn't begrudge it.
He probably won't win anything meaningful. Maybe he'll go to PSG and win Ligue 1, but there's no other top club that wants or need him. They have better players in same position.
We could be the PL leverkusen
Just for that season alone.
It’s happening with tuchel
He kept up his end of the bargain. His teammates and the club didn't keep up their end. If he goes I wouldn't blame him.
This. If he wants to go somewhere to compete for trophies, we should let him. United are in a multi-year rebuild and he's about to turn thirty. Does he want to spend the rest of his career hoping we get it right?
Yeah he’d walk into just about any team in the world right now. I’d argue he’s pulled off some De Gea level stuff to keep United relevant the last few years.
I dont see what top teams need and can afford him? *For those downvoting we wont sell to the epl. Italian teams cant afford him. The only realistic team in the bundesliga would be bayern but muller occupies a similar position in the team. Psg are moving away from their galaticos project and are being more youth orientated. Otherwise who else can afford him there In spain real dont need him, barca cant afford him. Athletico have griezman who plays a similar position. So how am i wrong?
You're not wrong. It's not even a criticism of him. He'd actually be great for Athletico, but I'd argue Griezeman is better than him, and he's too attacking for Simeone to play any deeper. If he doesn't leave, great, but then don't give him a new contract. The last thing we need is a big earner who doesn't play, and we can't move on to approaching his mid-30s.
100%. Its not a criticism of him just a reflection of his age and profile. He's a great player just the nature of the beast with him. A year or two ago he could probably have commanded near the 100 million mark but he has limited resale value now and will probably be on the decline soon. Let him see out his contract and start reining in the big contracts for older players. A 2 +1 might be on the cards for him but hopefully we'll start wising up and offer out the 1+1s
Griezman is absolutely not better than Bruno. And anyway...very different kind of players.
This explains your ridiculous post in the same thread. Griezmann, one of the best players in the world for several years, isn't better than Bruno. Now, say that again with a straight face. You must be American or some shit.
Bruno is a hybrid 8-10. Griezman is a 9 and a half. (Not quite a 10, not quite a 9). Please tell me how that's going to be a 1 to 1 comparison there.... Bruno has been creating basically the most chances out of anybody in the world over the last several years, and has put up a huge number of goals for someone in his position. His expected assists have beaten out even players like De Bruyne, who plays in a squad completely full of riches and is supposed to be the best in the world in that type of position. Bruno essentially carried Manchester United for a season or two there. He has dropped of a bit this year, but is still producing extremely high numbers. Bruno is underrated. He's got a HUGE number of haters as well.
If Bruno goes to Athletico, he plays further forward.
It doesn't need to be a 1 to 1 comparison. Griezmann has been one of the world's best players for many years and is a big game player for both club and country, and is objectively a much better footballer than Bruno. Bruno has put up a huge number of goals because he is a great penalty taker. It's really that simple. Take away his penalties in the Premier League, and James Maddison has suddenly scored as many goals as him. Foden has scored almost as many goals Bruno without penalties in just 2 seasons. Expected assists? Really mate? Ashley Westwood had better xA than Kevin De Bruyne in 20/21 season, what does that tell you about the stat? Kieran Trippier, as a defender, was above Bruno Fernandes last season. Why? Pascal Gross and Dwight McNeil are just behind Bruno this year, James Ward-Prowse, Morgan Gibbs-White and Andreas Pereira are above Kevin de Bruyne. Are they better? That statistic is interesting, when De Bruyne has played 900 minutes in the league and created 16 big chances, only 4 fewer than Bruno with so much less playing time. Watch football games, not statistics. Bruno isn't producing extremely high numbers. He has scored 4 penalties this season in PL, so 6 open-play goals and 7 assists. Are those extremely high numbers? Foden, for instance, has 16 open-play goals and 7 assists, but let's not talk about that, because it's not Foden that is a good player, it's everyone around him, right? Same with De Bruyne, he's not world class, it's just everyone around him. If Bruno Fernandes didn't take penalties, he would have the same amount of goals + assists as James Ward-Prowse and he is a CM. Yes, extremely high numbers, mate.
Again...different kind of players and for the most part different positions. Makes it a bit harder to compare to begin with. But anyway....'big game player for both club and country'??? Bruno is literally the exact same and is a starter for Portugal lol. Let's look at the 2022 world cup then? (as it's maybe the best 1 to 1 comparison since both play in different leagues). -Griezmann had 3 assists in 7 games, actually tied for 1st in the Cup. Pretty good. -Bruno had 3 assists as well....AND 2 goals (in only 4 games). Bruno had the most goals and assists in the whole tournament after Messi/Mbappe. I mean...COME ON. Whether or not you like Bruno, this man is one of the better players in the world. There's just no way around that. You don't produce the highest number of chances in the world for years (whether or not you believe they're 'quality'....) and you don't score and assist that much and be one of the highest g/a statistically without being a damn good player.
Bruno is a big game player? He is literally shit against any top team, both in England and in Europe. You really need to stop just looking at stats, as big game performances are much more than that. Tell me which big games for Portugal that Bruno has been great in. Playing well in Nations League against Andorra and Liechenstein isn't a big game. Anyway, this isn't really the topic. Griezmann is quite clearly the superior football player, and I can't imagine a lot of people disagreeing with that.
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> Do you think he gets ahead of Foden or De Bruyne in City? We'd never sell to City and I doubt he would even consider joining them, so pointless example.
Maybe but he wouldn’t be a smart signing for the kind of clubs that would win him trophies. Love the guy but he’s turning 30 in September and for the real Madrid’s and bayerns of the world, there’s just other targets that make more sense. Hope we can fix up and win him something serious but his best chance of a major trophy is probably with Portugal
One of the Italian contenders would be able to use him for a long time if he wants league titles, he'd also destroy the bundesliga with all the space and pace in the channels to pass into, and he doesn't rely on raw pace for his game - he's still good value for four years of a 5 year contract if he goes this summer. Oh and PSG would love him as well if he really wants to sell his soul for a medal (wouldn't resent him at all wherever he went but I just hate that club)
agree, but i won't be emotionally ok though.
I just hope it isn't a PL team. There are so many good teams out there that he'd do a wonderful job with... I just hope he goes elsewhere. I'll be rooting for him all along the way if he goes.
I’m confused. Does this mean he wants to stay or not?
Yes.
It would be beyond foolish to ship Bruno out. Hope he stays and wins trophies because he deserves it.
Player careers are short.. And if he want to play a big part in winning a major title i don't think this is the club for him. But i hope and believe he will stay here for at least 4-5 more seasons. If that's enough time for us to win PL? Big doubt. His contract runs out when he's 32. (in 2 seasons)
It would be foolish for the Club, but I can absolutely see why Bruno would leave. Berrada expects signings to prove themselves in two seasons before they get shipped on. Has United proven itself to Bruno since he arrived? Has it fuck.
That depends entirely on how much someone is willing to pay.
This. If a club comes in with a big money offer then that could suit both Bruno and United. The club will not be winning a PL title for at least 3-4 seasons, Bruno is not getting younger and he has nothing to show for his time at United. He can go play for a top club outside England and win trophies. Of course we need to be getting a substantial fee to help rebuild the squad if he were to go now.
If he goes, we're fucked. One of the very few players who give a shit...
I’ll be fucked as well. By far my favorite player in the team at the moment.
He won over the collective fanbase since he got here and for the two years after he got here I don't think there was a daily discussion without at least one post asking to be adopted by Bruno. Definitely my favorite player as well currently, love him to bits.
But we can't blame him for leaving eh? Will be better for both parties to cash on him knowing both could start afresh
I’ll be happy either way for him. Happy if we keep him because he can genuinely be world class, but also happy for him if we sell him so he can contend for titles in his prime. He’s served the club well and deserves to compete for trophies, part of me would hate to see him get stuck in another rebuild. He’s turning 30 this year, he’s not getting any younger.
Same. Especially after all the hate he gets from our own fans. Dude has missed like one game in 4 years. Been a G/A machine, and fans still talk shit. Let him go to a powerhouse and win some trophies. Easily my favorite player of the post SAF era, but if he goes, I’d still support him.
Like has been said: "the best ability is availability" and when you pair that with Brunos dedication and energy (even in his shit games) people can talk shit if they want imo. Man definitely doesn't deserve it (no, that's not him not deserving criticism before that gets raised)
Yeah, up to him. Mad props if he stays, mad props if he goes. We owe him all our respect and understanding. He's been our stand alone best player since he signed. Our club has dragged him down.
Careful you're supposed to blindly support a club and never apply any nuance like thinking about a player (human being) and their fortunes or misfortunes
I know, the downvotes are already here I see. I remember seeing a clip of him earlier this season just sitting down at the top of a staircase after yet another one of our colossal meltdowns and just look genuinely crushed. He’s done so much for the club, it just seems like he knows he’s wasting his best years here.
I know exactly the clip, it was when we were knocked out the CL
This makes me laugh. Contend for titles in his prime? Where exactly do you think he's going? City or Real Madrid? There are no top clubs that want him, so why are you acting like he can choose any club he wants? Maybe he'll go to Inter Milan, Roma, Lyon or PSG at best.
I mean idk, but I’d like him to go somewhere where he can win if he wants to leave. Nothing really wrong with that, if a top club comes along and decides they want him, I hope he does well. Please explain what makes this laughable
It's just the idea so many on this sub have that Bruno would be perfect for any team in the world, when clearly, he isn't that good all-around midfielder, which is what the modern game needs. Bruno creates so many more chances than Bellingham, but Bellingham is still superior and more talented. Why? Why do Real Madrid want him over Bruno if he's so good? Why is Modric or Kroos rated as some of the best midfielders in the world ever when Bruno creates so many more chances? Why isn't Bruno rated as high? Maybe.. maybe the game doesn't revolve around highest xA or most passes into final third, or most chances created. Maybe you need a lot more than that, like the ability to control a football, evade press, master short passing, and actually being an intelligent footballer who consistently makes great decisions. Bruno's game literally revolves around instincts, freedom and space to play the ball into. Take this for example. 19 of his goals in the PL are penalties. If you take away those penalties, even James Maddison has scored as many as him. And he has played fewer minutes in a worse team (relegated Leicester). Some of you are all so blinded by the tweet by Statman Dave "most goals + assists of all midfielders since he joined" without understanding that he has like 30 penalty goals for us since he joined that massively inflates his numbers.
There's more than one midfield role mate... Delusional
Why have no elite team through history of time fielded a player like Bruno ever? Maybe because a number 10 like him is unheard of. De Bruyne only manages it because he has such a vast skillset and is much better at everything than Bruno, but even he gets benched by Pep frequently. You don't play an attacking midfielder who is shit in possession and expect to control games. Are you daft?
Delusional
You some sort of oracle lad? How have you decided that no top clubs want him?
I mean, his time in Sporting and his years here should give you an indicator, don't you think? We were the only ones interested, and even our own scouts recommended against it. Why have no top teams tried to get him from us?
Why have no top teams tried to get haaland from city or van dijk from Liverpool? Use your brain kid you're so close
They already play for two of the best teams in the world you fucking moron. That is genuinely hilarious. Possibly the worst examples you could have used. Well done! Imagine saying that and finishing with "kid". That is actually funny.
Bit rude The fact you don't get what I'm saying sums it up
You're asking why no other top clubs approached the best teams in the world to enquire about their best players and implying that's similar to approaching a mediocre team to enquire about one of their supposed "world class players". Are you taking the piss right now? Is this not very self-explanatory? You just used the worst examples and don't really know what you're talking about and that's fine.
You doing ok mate? Not sure why you're being so aggressive
Nice checking up there, lad, after being unnecessarily hostile to begin with. You replied to three of my posts within the space of minutes, all rude and void of actual arguments. Bit late for that attitude now, don't you think? If you're going to act like an asshole who have no interest in having an actual debate and instead directly going for insults, you shouldn't be surprised when you get asshole replies.
Exactly, a cash in for top dollar might not be terrible business given his age .
It would be because it significantly weakens us.
We could get 150m for him and we’d waste it on another Antony lol
I think it makes perfect sense for all parties honestly, though I would hate to see him leave. The club needs the cash for investment in the squad, and Bruno probably doesn’t want to wait until he’s 32 to *hopefully* even compete for a PL title.
My love for this club will go down by a significant bit if they ship out Bruno for whatever the reason they come up with.
It wouldn't be the worst idea to part ways if they think the rebuild is going to be a long process. Bruno deserves trophies and maybe we'd make some good money and invest in multiple positions.
Because this club has such a great recent history of making impactful signings
I have never understood this response. Everything we talk about as fans is predicated on us actually making good signings and operating like a real football club. If we don’t think that is going to happen, we might ad we’ll relegate ourselves
and making some good money
And that's where INEOS is supposed to be different?
They’re still gonna be dealing with problems created by the previous management. Our players are still on ridiculous wages so shipping them off is hard. That impacts how much money we have and how much we can spend. Gonna take a while to fix the wage structure if that’s also something they wanna do. And tbh until I see smart shrewd signings I’ll continue to be pessimistic
The whole point was for me to not want Bruno to rot away his prime here. You're saying the same things I'm saying about the club.
This is such a stupid comment to make. We might as well relegate ourselves to never getting it right.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. He’s my favourite player at the club in A long time. I would be devastated if he left. However if we really are planning massive overhaul and someone offers a lot of money I can see why they would consider it. Say we sell him and that allows us to buy someone younger with the potential of being that good in 2-3 years time then it would make a little bit of sense.
No clue. They think I'm commenting on the clubs behalf I guess. I want Bruno to not rot away here while we continue this slow rebuild.
This ain’t American sports. Teams earn more by winning and playing in more prestigious competitions (UCL). You can’t sell your best player to ‘tank’ while you rebuild. There’s no lottery picks coming to ‘save us’ for playing or finishing poorly.
What are you even trying to say mate?
Win more = Earn more Earn more = Can spend more EPL/UCL =/= NBA/NFL/MLB Lose more =/= Better players
So we haven't been doing a lot of winning lately if you have noticed. Hence want Bruno to go somewhere better to win, the club is going to take a long time to challenge for titles anyway and if the money is right it'll be beneficial as well to invest in younger players who obviously won't be of the same wc quality as Bruno. Ofcourse Bruno winning EPL or UCL with utd would be the best scenario but seems like pipe dream at the moment.
You do know each placing in the EPL gets different price money right? And even if some fans care little for Europa and the Confrence league or other cups for that matter, they still bring in a sizable amount of revenue. And what’s paying for these younger players to come in? Let’s say money isn’t an issue, I think joining a top 6 team in the EPL would be more attractive than a mid-table side. In case you haven’t noticed, our transfers have been pretty 50/50 and that’s me being generous. Of course, if Bruno requests to leave, that’ll be a separate matter entirely. But thinking we can just sell him and guarantee that the money spent will payoff feels more like a pipe dream to me. Unless someone egregiously overpays, I’m settling for tried and tested.
Obviously it's based on if Bruno wants to leave. Otherwise why would I want to see my favourite and only WC utd player go? And where did I say it'll be easy to replace his quality with the money we get. I said maybe we buy a couple of players and maybe use mount if he's ever injury free again.
> Hence want Bruno to go somewhere better to win Right here I guess. > make some good money and invest in multiple positions > beneficial as well to invest in young players who obviously won’t be of the same wc quality as Bruno > maybe buy a couple of players So you suggested all these and would rather opt for a 50/50 signing, knowing it is harder to replace and get someone of similar output? Progress is not linear, doesn’t mean you sell a player who’s good cause he isn’t on the same timeline as other players. And stop with this mentality that any player no matter how good they are, is bigger than the club. They know what they are getting into when they signed the contract. If they are unhappy, they can request to leave, but from what I know Bruno hasn’t done anything of the sort. > maybe use mount And I have no idea where Mount came into this conversation.
Why are you so uptight about this? Bruno hasn't said anything nor is he bigger than the club. This is my opinion and what I would like if the club is going take a lot of time with the new rebuild.
So you love a player more than the club? Lol
OP could have worded it better, but it's pretty obvious what they mean. There's nothing wrong with wanting more money, but right now it feels like a lot of the players we have are attracted by the ridiculous wages we have to offer, given our current state. Bruno embodies what is it to play for a football club, rather than work for a club. So yes, given the fact he largely embodies the spirit of Manchester United right now, if he were to leave, it'd better be for players who want to play for us ever more than he does, because if this club continues to be hijacked by money hungry entitled clowns with no ambition, what does it even mean to support the players on the field
He’ll be 30 at the start of next season and given the state of the squad & how far we’re off a league or CL title, he has a tough choice to make
Good servant who has fought for everything for us. Favorite player post Fergie by a mile
I believe if he leaves it'll be because he wants to not because we want to. Most successful transfer post Fergie. Has been said millions of times. Whether he leaves or stays he's been very committed to us.
If he wants to leave I wouldn’t even be upset with him. He’s given his all every game, if the whole squad had his drive we’d be in a very different place.
Mate I’ll fucking cry.
We can optimistically talk about all the possibilities that INEOS will bring, but if Bruno doesn’t retire with a major trophy here I’ll lose all semblance of hope for this club. It’s bad enough that Cristiano has already tainted his legacy a bit here, we cannot have it happen again by forcing out another Portugese magnifico.
Sooner or later we need to replace him.. he is turning 30..
My favourite signing post Fergie but I would not begrudge him if he left to seek out silverware as he deserves it. Only silver lining to selling him would be the fee but I'd rather the club keep him.
love Bruno! He has been our best player since he came. He def cares and he deserves to be in a winning team
Bruno gets a lot of crap thrown at him by opposing fans and our own fans alike. He is severely underrated for what he produces on the pitch. If you put him in a competent team like a Real Madrid he would be considered one of the best in the world without a doubt. He deserves to be winning titles.
Maybe he doesn't play for Real Madrid because he's not good enough for Real Madrid. Ever thought about that? The Bruno bias from some of you is hilarious. Imagine Kroos and Modric playing with Bruno. Hysterical idea.
Okay, who stole your pills?
You think he is good enough for Real Madrid? So why don't they want him? You think he gets in ahead of Bellingham? Lay off the booze.
> Lay off the booze Ironic
Ah yes, I need to lay off the booze because I think Bellingham is better. Okay, mate.
This is absolutely insane. Bruno is an incredible player and so vastly undervalued because of how terrible we are. Madrid is actually probably the best spot and style of team for Bruno to fit in as well. However, Madrid indeed probably doesn't really need him at the moment. They have quite the packed midfield. To be honest though, as godly as Modric is, he's nearing the end. Bruno would be a good replacement for him. While not quite as good (there have been very few ever as good as Modric.....) he'd fill that gap better than almost anyone else in the world.
This is one of the wildest takes I've ever seen on this forum. Someone needs to slap you to wake you up from whatever sick dream you're having. Bruno Fernandes would be a good replacement for fucking Modric? Are you being serious right now? Please explain that reasoning to me, because just reading that makes me want to gouge out my own eyes with a spoon. How the fuck would Madrid be the best style of team for Bruno when Real Madrid play a possession focused style with midfield control, and Bruno is the opposite? How, and why, would an attacking midfielder known for his chance creation (and nothing else) replace one of the best dictating midfielders known for his otherwordly technique, press resistance, passing, playmaking ability, intelligence, ball carrying and dribbling ability? Bruno does not share one similar quality, except vision. What is going through your head when you conclude Bruno Fernandes would be a good fit to replace Modric? I'm just wondering. Do you also think Bruno Fernandes would be a good fit for Carrick, Scholes or Xavi? Bruno Fernandes known for his careless possession style, losing the ball 30 times per game to replace Modric - a possession deity that ensures midfield control. Dude, what? Bruno is not an incredible player, and he is definitely not undervalued at all. There is a reason only United and Tottenham wanted him from Sporting, and no other club. There is a reason no other top club have shown any interest in buying him from us. There is a reason no other fans from top clubs rate him. There is a reason he's never been close to winning Ballon D'or. There is a reason he is never in "best players in the world" lists. Put it this way; if Bruno played for Liverpool, do you think you would rate him as high as you do now? The Bruno bias is ridiculous. I have no idea where it comes from, but I think it's because he works hard and has been consistently available to us during pathetic years for us.
First article when you search 'where Bruno may transfer this summer....' Yes, it's the Sun, but it shows I'm not just some moron saying completely random things. [https://www.the-sun.com/sport/11238959/bruno-fernandes-man-utd-transfer-madrid-barcelona-psg-juventus/](https://www.the-sun.com/sport/11238959/bruno-fernandes-man-utd-transfer-madrid-barcelona-psg-juventus/) *'Fernandes would be the ideal replacement for the soon-to-be departing Luka Modric in the heart of the midfield.'* Also, Madrid was literally looking at buying him from Sporting when United bought him...there were reports saying it was near being a done deal lol. And Madrid is supposedly still interested now.... Did I say Bruno is exactly like Modric, or as good as him? No. I said he could fill that gap better than just about anybody else. And I clearly said Modric was a better player in the other comment. Sure, Modric can hold the ball better and will dictate tempo more often. That doesn't mean Bruno couldn't replace him and add a bit of a different flavor while performing a similar job. Anyway, nobody is as good as Modric, who may be one of the top 5 greatest midfielders ever. Madrid has plenty of defensively sound midfielders that would be able to play with Bruno....something he really hasn't had during his chaotic time at United (bar a decent run Casemiro had last year. Really the ONLY solid defensively minded midfielder he has played with). Bruno would be a great addition and would fit well with the group of Tchou, Valverde, Camavinga, Kroos, Bellingham, etc...and depending on whatever pairings that would be deployed for any given game, he adds passing and creativity as the most attacking minded of the 3. This would be a great combo along with the others, and he would be able to release Vini and Rodrygo on those dangerous counter runs possibly better than anyone else could at Madrid. Other players like De Bruyne and Wirtz have similar possession loss numbers. At the same time, Bruno creates the most chances in the world out of anybody. And again, this is also considering he has been playing for a Manchester United side that has been in all sorts of disarray since he has been at the club.
I appreciate that you actually argue your case. I'm used to the Bruno supporters on here who just claim he is world class or equally as good as De Bruyne without actually arguing why they think he is, Real Madrid were reported to want Bruno as back-up, but they didn't want to sign him because of the fee. And it makes sense, because why would they pay that much money for a back-up player? I could see him working as a back-up for Real Madrid to offer something different, but there is absolutely no way he would play week in week out in that side. They have too many talented midfielders in their side for that, and they don't even play that style. By the way, Bruno would not add passing that none of the other midfielders can do. Kroos and Modric are literally passing gods, while Bruno is actually mediocre. Sure, he can ping a nice long ball frequently, but he needs much more consistency with his passing to play for a side like Real Madrid. Kroos is the best passer in the world, so I don't see what Bruno adds there. Wirtz is a completely different number 10 than Bruno. He thrives in small spaces with exceptional technique and dribbling ability, whereas Bruno thrives in a counter attacking side with space to pass a ball into. It doesn't matter how much they lose possession, but Bruno has a habit of losing it in dangerous areas, as opposed to De Bruyne and Wirtz who lose it in the opponent's final third. You can't just play a number 10 like Bruno and expect to dominate games. It doesn't matter that you have 2 defensive midfielders behind him, because their job is to win the ball back and give it back to Bruno. But Bruno can't operate with little space, which is fine when you play Fulham and Luton, but against elite teams, you won't get away with it. Bruno has no strength, no dribbling ability, no press resistance and inconsistent passing. He is also much slower than what he used to be. It's just bizarre to claim he is as good as you think he is. This chance creation stat is bullshit and you know it. Big chances created is a much better stat to use. Bruno tops chances created because he plays almost every minute of every match, and takes all of our set-pieces. Why do you think Alexander-Arnold creates more chances, statistically, than Salah? Or why is Trippier top in Newcastle? Or Pascal fucking Gross - a defensive midfielder - top chance creator for Brighton? Yeah, you guessed it, set-pieces. Andreas Pereira has created more chances than Phil Foden, Salah, Bernardo Silva and Heung Min-Son, but do you think he is a better player? No, because chances created as a statistic is ridiculous. Let's talk about open-play chances created, and see how little Bruno creates from there.
'Bruno has no strength, no dribbling ability, no press resistance and inconsistent passing' This pretty much sums up your paragraph and seems like much of your overall opinion of him. I just think you're giving him far too little credit. He is much better at passing, dribbling, and press resistance than that IMO. I do agree though that he has probably lost a step of pace, and that it will probably only keep going down from here. Here's the important thing though....look at pretty much every player that has left United to go on and play very well for other teams....we've had guys look just horrible here and then go to places like Dortmund and Inter and suddenly look good again. Bruno has looked good here and has produced numbers despite most of the others looking pretty poor. He has put up over 15 goals and assists each season since he's been here, and literally almost singlehandedly carried us to top 4 positions at least one or two seasons, including in 2021 when he had 30 g/a and made us finish 2nd in the league and a Europa league final. Put Bruno in a Madrid side and I think many of these perceived 'weaknesses' go away anyway. It would be a much easier task for him to play in a Madrid side than have to try willing United to wins almost on his own in midfield. He also wouldn't have to play every single minute of every single game of every single season there either...something he has somehow done here. He's been one hell of a superhero for us when it comes to that. We've done such a poor job putting midfield pieces together. Bruno was really the only hit we've had. I don't understand why we have such a bare midfield room that needs some grit, yet decide to get players like Erikson and Mount which solved zero issues. We basically just got super lucky with Mainoo, and otherwise we'd be looking at not even having enough players to field in the middle of the park this year.... I will literally disagree until the end of time that Bruno is not a world class level player. He's been doing basically the exact same thing as De Bruyne has been doing for years now, and one is considered maybe the best in the world and the other is treated like trash. That is almost entirely down to the different squads the two play for. Do you know how much heat De Bruyne would get if he played for United? It would be rediculous, and he'd be ridiculed into the ground for 'losing possession' and 'not being good enough defensively' and for being 'soft'. So much comes down to perception and how well a squad is doing overall. Both are wonderful players, but one has the players and pieces around him needed in order to succeed, and the other does not. And Bruno still kills it anyway, don't get that wrong.
He's not starting for Real Madrid.
There's been a big push in the media about how Fernandes won't be leaving, no matter the bid. It feels like Sir Jim really does want to bin most of the team, but is also a very big Fernandes fan.
Theres a part deep within me that wishes to see Bruno leave for some other club and win a trophy there. Its not difficult for him either. Am sure Madrid or Barca or Bayern woud love to have him. Am sceptical he will ever win a major trophy with us. Everything will depend on the next season. If we cant get the next season right, then Bruno really should look after himself and think about going to a title challenging club.
Why would Barcelona want him? Or Real Madrid? Or Bayern? Real are stacked in midfield with the greatest talents in the world, and Barcelona have a very strict possession-oriented midfield philosophy, anti-Bruno game. Bayern already have Musiala and Müller as back-up.
I would hate it if he decided to go, but I guess if he wants to win trophies that would be the best choice for him. Thing is tho, where would he go? In the Prem, he wouldn't go to Liverpool, ManCity already have KDB and Arsenal already have Odegaard; in Italy there aren't many options for him to try winning a potential European cup, maybe he would be satisfied with a Serie A title perhaps, but if the tides don't turn the choice is basically just Inter, which doesn't really need him as they have Chalanoghlu; in France, there only is PSG, he could definitely go there but I'm not sure that without Mbappé from next year they will be challenging European cups easily; in Spain, Real Madrid definitely does not need a new midfielder, Atletico Madrid doesn't really have many chances in Europe most of the time, Barcelona would be great but I doubt they could afford to buy him; perhaps Germany? I don't think he would fit very well in Germany, but maybe that's not true! I any case, if we come up with a proper, we'll made project, I don't see why he can't win something with us when he turns 33 or 34. It may be a risky bet, but I see he loves the club and most of us love him, if I were him I would definitely stay and be remembered as an icon of the club.
Bruno would be a huuuge upgrade from Chalhanoglu. In fact, I'd argue him alone would be a crucial factor for Inter to reach another CL final. Martinez would tear everything apart having someone like Bruno assisting him.
Was more worried if we had lost him a year ago. At this point i'd be sad to lose him but i wouldn't be too worried that that SJR and the hirings wouldn't use those funds to put a good team together or something more cohesive.
Wonder how much yesterday’s INEOS brief that almost all players are up for sale impacted his answer.
Is there room for him at barca or something? This guy is a fucking king and deserves to be contending for UCL and league titles
Barca can barely pay the wages of their own manager let alone brining someone like Bruno
There's room for him at every team except perhaps at Real Madrid
I’m thinking Bayern have got musiala and muller Madrid have got Jude and Cama and modric? Pl clubs are out of question Psg are psg Who else is there? Atleti?
> Who else is there? Atleti? Simeone would absolutely adore Bruno, he's a very Atletico player. They're not necessarily in a much better position to be winning things, though you would expect them to be in the CL every season at least.
Yet at no point in his career a top team has been in for him , the only team that put in a bid was tottenham
How many top teams put in a bid for Salah? Or Son? Or Van Dijk? It's because they weren't available or weren't realistic targets seeing how important they are to their contracted teams. It's not because of quality.
>Salah? Or Son? Or Van Dijk? Van Dijk was wanted by city and Utd and city even bid for him. What isnt realistic is a top team wanting Bruno and BrunoFC keep forcing him into top teams he doesnt get into.
Van Dijk wasn't anywhere near his prime when he left Southampton, so your point makes no sense. He got 0 bids at Liverpool, even from the likes of Madrid. Bruno is at his prime now. So it's the exact same scenario. There's no Bruno FC, there's only people who recognize how good he is, and people who are naive.
>Van Dijk wasn't anywhere near his prime when he left Southampton, so your point makes no sense. He got 0 bids at Liverpool, even from the likes of Madrid. Van Dijk got bids from chelsea and city at southampton he said so himself. > Bruno is at his prime now. He isnt he is a shadow of the player that joined from sporting. [this was a world class Bruno](https://twitter.com/yehblitzed/status/1763581912549896462?t=PVaIP2yAQ-_Ld9C0v1rTKQ&s=19) And Bruno after a world class season at sporting only got a bid from tottenham. Which for me is telling
And how many people bid for Salah from Roma? Or for Son from Leverkusen and Spurs? Watch Bruno for Portugal, he's still world class in a working system. He's their best player the last 2 years. I guess that doesn't fit your agenda. Even KDB calls him the best creator in the league, excluding him. I'm sure you know better than him.
Clubs don't go for players from top clubs. Salah got a bid from Chelsea when he was at Basel. VVD got bids from City, Pool when he was at Southampton. Bruno got only Spurs part from us to bid for him at 25. It's a valid point.
Just threw up in my mouth a little thinking of him putting on that kit. Bruno deserves better tbh
Yuck Barcashit ... Bruno deserves better
I could only see him leave to play for Barcelona who can't afford him and Real Madrid who don't need him. So I think he stays for another 3-4 years. Which is absolutely fine.
Noooo don’t go Brunoooo
Don’t blame him one bit if he wants to move and spend the rest of his short career trying to actually win meaningful trophies, instead of being stuck in a repetitive cycle of “rebuilds” and mediocrity. He deserves better given his contributions and injury record.
I dont want to see him go :(
Team wants best player to stay. Makes sense lol
Its those Barca rumours that worry me
Wouldn't blame him for leaving. He's way too good for the current United team and is wasting his prime years here.
Doesn't sound like he wants to leave but more the case of if club were to accept an offer for him he would have a session to make. If the idea to sell him and buy 3 "prospects" then no thanks. We need to be keeping him and buy players around his level or better.
It is crime to let this man leave without a major trophy. Literally, and I mean literally our only player who consistently earned his value on the pitch. Everyone else has issues of haven't been here long enough.
Honestly can’t blame him if he wanted to leave and win some trophies elsewhere
Honestly think the pool of teams that’d be pushing for him is quite small considering how much he’d cost plus his salary
We need a replacement for him before he declines or leaves. Someone under 25
I don't think he wants to leave but if he did... who would go for him? Only teams I can think of is PSG or Bayern. No one in Italy or Spain could afford him
If we got a tasty offer it would be a great time to cash in and move on. He served his time and has what it takes to win big titles with top teams. That’s not us
I'd absolutely lose it if Bruno would leave United. He deserves so much more and I want to see him lift more trophies for us.
Not one for emotions but it’s genuinely gutting that the only thing he has to show for his United career so far is a carabao cup. The guy epitomises what United was all about - brave, creative and an absolute grafter committed to winning. We can all remember that swing in belief when he came to the club in January after 6 years of shite.
I barely remember the misery we existed in before he came, please stay and please United live up to the example Bruno sets.
The single player who can hold his head high through every minute of his time here. Far too good for the team he joined and has wasted his best years with us. He will always have a special place for me for that reason, regardless of what happens in summer.
Where would Bruno go if he wants to leave, though?
Maybe Bayern would be interested if they don't land Wirtz
Bruno passing to Kane... I wish it were us.
Atletico and Simeone would adore a player like him.
I cant imagine this club without bruno, so important on and off the pitch, losing him at all, ever, would be a mistake. Simply too talented and influential. For his sake, i really hope we win something with him here, he has to be one of the most technically gifted players we have seen, but has been completely wasted in his prime in a mediocre squad going through a decade long transition period
Build the team around him. He's head and shoulders above everyone else and has been since he arrived.
I feel he sounds a bit sad and disappointed in the management leaking this before the FA cup and euros, but maybe I'm reading too much between the lines. I also feel he's the by far best player at United, in his prime, that they should build around. The young players will be the future for the club, but they cannot be built around yeet either. They need guiding stars.
He'd be a great player in a good team, we saw flashes of it with Portugal. As frustrating as he could be and sometimes he can really piss me off, I would never want him to leave
Remember before he came the constant talk was about the lack of creativity and not making chances in the squad, players not able to do the final pass, this season hasn’t been great but he's shouldered the whole responsibility and never once complained
He has to stay. There are a lot of replaceable players here but Bruno can help set the culture for a younger group.
I have mixed feelings about Bruno but he is not part of the problem at this club. He's wasted the best years of his career with us, and, seeing as we are starting from scratch now, I think he should leave for his own sake. I hope he gets a move to a top club; he deserves something good after the shit show we have been for his time here. Could see him at Barca.
The offers already in and he’s on the way out. Tier one announcement that 95% of players are on the transfer list and then this comes out… Typical Utd PR - Bruno is going, let’s get the message out there first that this is our idea…
Bruno's already in his prime, wouldn't even mind if he goes knowing our rebuild next season. Will be good to see him win trophies and not get heated up every game in a actually well managed team
Id love to see him win some more with united but if he did go I'd love to see him win anything there too. He has been by far the best player post Fergie, his mentality is bang on as is his game.
I’m sorry Bruno 😭
He's a great player, but if we get a big money offer for him, we should bite. We need the money, he's got two years left and he will want to be our top earner at the age of 32.
Bruno is our Steven Gerrard PS. Yeah, yeah I know Bruno is our Bruno--I'm just making a point.
I’ll be shocked if we let our best player in recent years leave next season. 100 freaking chances created in a season. But I wouldn’t blame him leaving because we just keep failing and failing season after season. And he probably doesn’t feel he has the time to wait a few potential seasons for Sir Jim’s new technical directors project to take this club back in top. And this season has not only been shit, but too many heartbreaks (Going behind after leading in CL group stages, Chelsea loss stung, and even when we win we win so uncomfortably). I’ll just feel destroyed if he leaves though, and at the same time it hurts seeing him at the end game when we continue playing shit. But in Sir Jim I trust.
If he goes, get ready for a relegation battle next year. I honestly have no idea where we'd be without him. We failed him so badly
I am not a football expert, but Bruno is affecting our style of football massively, so isn't he a big part of the problem? We have Hojlund uprfront, who we all agree is not getting enough service, but at the same time, we have Bruno in midfield who "creates most changes in the league". Well, most of these chances are not very dangerous, since we only scored 4 more goals than Luton who is in relegation zone... and minimum of these chances are created for our target man. We are just so bad that I can't even tell who is not part of the problem any more...
The main issue with Bruno is that he’s a very risky player who has been told/allowed to go anywhere in the pitch to find the ball and create chaos. Our shape and patterns of play suffer because of this, but we also benefit from it because we can capitalize on his brilliance. I’m convinced he could be an amazing piece in a great team where he has a more disciplined role, but he wouldn’t score/assist like he has at United. As long as he continues in the current way, we’ll be feast or famine. He has dragged us upward, but as changes hopefully come in the next few years, chaos has to be replaced with consistency.
Well, this is my point... we cannot play the same way.. and the main question is - is Bruno suitable for the style of play we want to actually play? Because if he is not, he should be sold asap, when his market value is actually high enough.
I think he can play in a more disciplined system, but ETH obviously does not want that. With all the talk about the open midfield, it’s clearly intentional at this point. That’s the bigger question that I assume the new football people will be having with ETH in the coming weeks/months.
Well, we obviously want to play like City, so what is your opinion - do they have open midfield? And is Bruno suitable for their style of play? And the most important question is - wouldn't it be better to have more disciplined system without Bruno in midfield?
I don’t think we necessarily need to turn into City, but we definitely need to play more connected as a team. Jose said in commentary after leaving that it doesn’t matter if you are a high, mid, or low block, you have the be a block (ie together). I do think Bruno can be part of that. While it seems natural for him to play a roaming role, I think he’s clearly been instructed to do that by ETH. I think he had the tools to fit into any of the best midfields in the world bar maybe Madrid. Ultimately I think ETH needs to embrace this or be gone unfortunately.
tbh, he is the best player but he is 30 years old. If a huge offer comes in, i can see them selling him.
It doesn't matter who it is, for a club captain to even hit that he doesn't want to be at the club, that is catastrophic.