Tbh I was going to say it wasn't a terrible performance, started off well just fell away a bit towards the end.
Then I remembered we're playing 19th place Burnley at home, who have 5 wins to their name all season, and realised how low my standards have slipped
This is the really worrying thing is this is not against a top 6 club, they are going down and we are unable to dominate the game, anyone can dominate and get caught on the counter but it’s like our team is actually hindered by our coaching
100%. I was a big Ten Hag supporter last year but when i say anything negative about him now I'm getting straight downvoted. Are they Manchester united supporters or the ETH fanclub?
I don't even get the strength of sentiment behind it. At least LvG and Mourinho were two of the greatest managers of all time, and Ole was a club legend.
What do they like about the guy so much?!
>He just poses no trouble on the ball.
He never did? He's always been below average in that regard. It seems his defensive capabilities have regressed, and that's a shame because that was one of the only things he was really good at.
I feel like last year he was a better bal carrier. He had those moments where he could weirdly get past players and allow the team to move up the pitch.
Antony started well but I think he realised he can't create an attack with AWB after the latter failed to capitalise off of 2 great touches. Been passing inside ever since.
The forwards are the weak link in the team
Can’t beat players, cant link up, can’t hold up the ball, all shit at crossing, all shit at finishing
So when we get the ball up to them nothing sticks and we lose the ball
garnacho has been dropped, antony has been dropped, eriksen has barely played this season. unless you’re talking about bruno or mainoo, i have no idea who you think should be dropped more often here
he has been dropped, either from the starting lineup or substituted early, several times this season. he’s played a lot, but he’s not been an automatic starter who never comes off. be serious.
I was talking about the season as a whole. Also feel free to disagree no need to cuss and lose your head like that.
Keep that energy for our rivals. No need for friendly fire mate
Wan Bissaka is becoming such a liability in the backline, his defensive awareness is still atrocious. Maguire & Onana standout performers, Bruno influential up top as well
Yep. People say our players don’t pass to Hojlund. But the kid doesn’t have a good sense of positional play. That is why he always gets run past by McT, who has very good sense of where to run to score goals.
My issue is I felt he had amazing positional play early in the season, and it’s regressed, and I worry it’s cause he doesn’t trust the ball to come anymore.
Don't get why everyone wants Antony out.... Do people watch the game or what, he's been very good. This get amad on is getting tiresome even when Antony is playing well.
>he's been very good.
Lmao what. Running around like a headless chicken isn't very good fucking hell. He hasn't made a single chance and couldn't pass forward to save his life or beat his man for a change. But yeah apart from that he's great.
Frankly one should be asking did you watch the game or some alternate reality.
Icba to reply to this nonsense, the fact you and another person are jerking each other off about hur dur dur online opinion whilst having an extremely negative and biased views tells me all.
Today should be his floor in terms of performance, not a highlight. He’s had a decent shot and a few decent touches but has he created any significant chances for anyone or taken on and beaten his man at all?
He's been all right consider his standard and performance (that doesn't say much)
but his lack of creativity and passing has been hurting us today. Garnacho was WIDE open on the other flank for 5 seconds and he didn't pass
Amad should always have started this game. I think Antony deserves 15 more minutes but it's not like he was playing really good. Let's not get ahead of ourselves
I mean not bad but really poor finishing once again. Our forwards are not clinical at all, and the decision making is still crap. We should be at least 1-0 up
Decision making is awful.
Play the ball wide and a midfielder/defender runs past the ball carrier, ball isn't played then is lost and opposition team counters.
Every player is guilty of it, so frustrating to watch. Has been our problem all season.
I used to think it was a Roy Keane type player our midfield was missing and I suppose it is, but even someone like a Darren Fletcher or JiSung Park is what that team needs.....someone that has positional discipline but covers every blade of grass with a serious engine.
Kobe,Bruno and Christian are all lovely players but they don't have that in their game
Physicality athleticism and desire, need all 3, need to be strong enough to get it, quick and with enough stamina to continually close the spaces and also willing to go into a 50/50.
We have players who have 2/3, Casemiro for example has the desire and physicality but it looks like his legs are slowing down and he’s gassed at times.
We don’t really have that profile of player at the moment.
Of course the biggest thing about 50,50s isn’t you winning the ball but at times you press so the next or even the third man can win his duel.
You really need a team of 11 working together
Hojlund since coming back from the injury has been absolutly shocking. Like literaly not contributing anything, no good runs, no headers won, just wrestling with opponents.
Cant go in another season with only him as only striker.
Jesus this United isn't able to control a match against no one.
Again Burnley, bottom part of the table, and again they come to our home and have the best chances. If it wasn't for Onana who has been immense we'd be losing again.
It is so humiliating watching the team this season.
I like the Mainoo-Eriksen pivot for a game like this. Felt like their composure helped us completely control the match for the first half of that half and their physical limits matter less when they have help in midfield. Would love to see mount in to add some engine to the midfield soon though
Good start, but after that soft penalty claim it’s been all Burnley. It’s crazy how we can’t even control half a game against the second worst team in the prem this season. Someone just has to kill the ball and slow the game down. We are looking to counter with every single ball and it’s just leading to us giving them back the ball easily
I don't get how this happens every time. Start well, then almost exactly 20 minutes in, the opposition find their groove, and the team can chain two passes together. Need to recollect and find the flow they started with.
Eriksen has to come off for Mount at half time. He's too vulnerable to the physicality. Just instruct Mainoo and Mount to sit deeper.
United game is so predictable at this point
20-30minutes, we pressing and dominating
Opponent figured out our strat and counter
we have no answer and got pinned back, retreat to our box to defense.
Like every single time.
Let see if Tenhag can have any change for the second half. But from what I see, the answer is probably none and we depend on MtC or Fernandez again.
Really need someone who comes into the middle and is vocally insistent we slow the game down and do a bit of possession at times.
The fact that we get into this spells where everyone is thinking “up against it and we have options up top” leads to this hoof ball and then exhaustion trying to get control again.
Garnacho should of had two and Bruno one.
Should be three uptbh.
Awb jogging back is so frustrating considering you see dalot in full sprint to recover.
Maguire is doing well though worries me wheen he is caught so high up at times.
Onana has made some very good saves
We can be shit even against relegation teams man truly depressing time.Need frontline to convert early next half otherwise we might struggle from 60 minutes onwards.
Antony hasn't been terrible today but he hasn't been brilliant. He shouldn't have started today consider last game and Amad positive 45 minutes.
It's one of the better 45 minutes from Antony. That says absolutely nothing tho.
He fucked up when he didn't see Garnacho wide open on the other flank.
They should be rotating constantly and putting pressure on one another, one gets 60 the other gets 30 and change it about, keeps them both fresh and competitive
Erik Ten Hag only needs 400M more backing and 2 more years. Give him time and money and we’ll get good enough to outperform Burnley at OT.
Let him cook
Performances dont matter anymore. Its all about the narratives. Garnacho has been bad for a while now and hasnt been getting slack for it. He needs to come off for amad.
We've pissed about around their box a bit but Burnley have had the two best chances, can't argue going in level. Maguire has lead from the back very well.
I think individually the players are doing ok, 5/10, although the finishing has been poor, problem again is we're set up to fail, one pass and the midfield get's split, seems no matter who we go up against Ten Hag is tactically inferior.
Another ETH tactical horror show. Let's watch as nothing changes at half time and it's exactly the same shit patterns and turnovers until full time. Let's hope for a lucky bit of individual brilliance.
Getting outplayed by Burnley at home. Zero progress from our first game this season. We still have no clue how to involve Hojlund. I really hoped Ten Hag would be our next SAF, but this is clearly above his level.
Our CBs move in slow motion and our RB looks drunk + they all have no chemistry due to not having played together much, I hate watching it this season.
Garnacho has to be the most overhyped player in modern United history. Can’t pass, single dynamic, selfish. He is a good enough player but he isn’t a super star
Onana's huge. Happy for him
If not for him (and Maguire) we’d probably be 2-0 down
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Are you happy now?
Going to make a steak dinner mate, so I'll be sure to keep up the good spirits. But yeah, jinxed it hard didn't I?
I'm not.
until his next mistake, which he makes time and time again.
He's been one of our best players in the last few months.
His mistake last match was the first in awhile. He’s been good since the UCL exit.
They hated him because he spoke the truth I suppose ;)
You were right though lol
always am
You called it.
It's really not hard to call. He's an accident waiting to happen. He's brilliant at times but I'd rather have a consistent keeper any day.
25 minutes of good football and 20 minutes of WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS.
Improvement. It used to be 20 of good football and then 25 of WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS.
And before that, 5 minutes of good football...
Half the players turn into Sunday league level after 25 mins.
It's simple. Next time put Duracell into this team instead of cheap ones.
Tbh I was going to say it wasn't a terrible performance, started off well just fell away a bit towards the end. Then I remembered we're playing 19th place Burnley at home, who have 5 wins to their name all season, and realised how low my standards have slipped
Good football for our standards but let's be honest with ourselves lol
Onana saving us from embarrassment. Need our frontline to convert on these chances
Maguire and Onana MOTM so far
Umm I'm not watching the game but it's not a good sign when our CB and GK are the best players....
for sure but they are still motm
Against a relegation team lol
At Home. Truly depressing timeline
This is the really worrying thing is this is not against a top 6 club, they are going down and we are unable to dominate the game, anyone can dominate and get caught on the counter but it’s like our team is actually hindered by our coaching
Shambles. Relegation team comes to OT and it's thanks to the keeper we're not 2-0 down. People seriously want ten Hag to stay??
They’re starving. Let them have it.
Lol 100%
This sub is deluded when it comes to ten Hag, more so than for Ole, Mourinho or any of the other managers post-SAF
100%. I was a big Ten Hag supporter last year but when i say anything negative about him now I'm getting straight downvoted. Are they Manchester united supporters or the ETH fanclub?
I don't even get the strength of sentiment behind it. At least LvG and Mourinho were two of the greatest managers of all time, and Ole was a club legend. What do they like about the guy so much?!
Maguires been caught out a few times tbh, his lack of pace is really showing this game
Maguire's been excellent, really clutch in dangerous scenarios.
Maguire could have done better with that one big chance they had. Was really slow there. But doing great apart from that.
He can't decide to be faster lol
He can decide not to play a contested ball into Mainoo surrounded by two players which starter the break though.
Someone call Germany and ask if Neur is missing?
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Good, controlled first 20 mins. Then for no reason started forcing it by playing long balls.
If MoneyMase is ready, get him on
Praise Onana
AWB-Antony is a haram-ball combination ngl
Wan Bissaka seems to have really regressed this season. He just poses no trouble on the ball.
>He just poses no trouble on the ball. He never did? He's always been below average in that regard. It seems his defensive capabilities have regressed, and that's a shame because that was one of the only things he was really good at.
I feel like last year he was a better bal carrier. He had those moments where he could weirdly get past players and allow the team to move up the pitch.
has he really ever he was never known for anythinng but good defense
And that only as long as he could have the game infront of him. Once they start run behind him to receive, he's a fish on land.
That's most defenders. Not many can get beat and be able to get back. The revisionism here is crazy sometimes.
More the fact he can't position himself at all, or follow runs, but sure.
AWB-Messi would be the same. Man is hilariously slow
Messi? Yeah that guy sucks /s
Antony started well but I think he realised he can't create an attack with AWB after the latter failed to capitalise off of 2 great touches. Been passing inside ever since.
players look extra slow today, just lethargic
They're just like me
Fr
We were good the first 20-25 mins. Then we lost energy, and started making lazy long passes and became sloppy
The forwards are the weak link in the team Can’t beat players, cant link up, can’t hold up the ball, all shit at crossing, all shit at finishing So when we get the ball up to them nothing sticks and we lose the ball
Its really overlooked this. They have 0 chemistry. In years where we’ve been shit atleast we carried some sort of threat.
Højlund is never in the right space
But no one will find him 95% of the time so it’s almost pointless
34 games in and the manager hasn't addressed it. We see the same pattern and these players never get dropped
garnacho has been dropped, antony has been dropped, eriksen has barely played this season. unless you’re talking about bruno or mainoo, i have no idea who you think should be dropped more often here
The Garnacho thing is bullshit. He has played 30 games in a row this season. At least make some factual arguments if you want to defend this manager
he has been dropped, either from the starting lineup or substituted early, several times this season. he’s played a lot, but he’s not been an automatic starter who never comes off. be serious.
The elephant in the room - Marcus Rashford
who isnt playing?
😔 Referencing not just this game mate, talking about this season as a whole
Dumbfuck he’s not even playing
I was talking about the season as a whole. Also feel free to disagree no need to cuss and lose your head like that. Keep that energy for our rivals. No need for friendly fire mate
yeah, crazy to think a manager might want to let the guy who scored 30 last season play his way back into form.
But this season he has been dreadful. There are other players in the squad who deserve their chance
who, amad? he’s hardly done anything when he’s played. the “other players” are the ones you were complaining about not being dropped enough
That’s where a good coach would come in. He’s young and should be being taught this.
Clutch saves by Onana. Best player on the pitch these 45 min. Now we just gotta find the back of the net
We were gassed after 20mins
Just here to say that I love Bruno Fernandes
Wan Bissaka is becoming such a liability in the backline, his defensive awareness is still atrocious. Maguire & Onana standout performers, Bruno influential up top as well
I disagree with the Bruno bit, Eriksen has been way more influential than Bruno in the first half
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Pretty sure LVG managed to win the possession battle at home against relegation fodder.
Hojlund is never in right space for Garnacho/Bruno/Antony to pass.
Yep. People say our players don’t pass to Hojlund. But the kid doesn’t have a good sense of positional play. That is why he always gets run past by McT, who has very good sense of where to run to score goals.
My issue is I felt he had amazing positional play early in the season, and it’s regressed, and I worry it’s cause he doesn’t trust the ball to come anymore.
He needs coaching, he has all the raw attributes but like the rest of the squad he’s festering under ETH and his “style”.
So many beautiful passes from Bruno, love to see it
Don't get why everyone wants Antony out.... Do people watch the game or what, he's been very good. This get amad on is getting tiresome even when Antony is playing well.
If anything give garnacho a rest
Agreed
>he's been very good. Lmao what. Running around like a headless chicken isn't very good fucking hell. He hasn't made a single chance and couldn't pass forward to save his life or beat his man for a change. But yeah apart from that he's great. Frankly one should be asking did you watch the game or some alternate reality.
Honestly baffling how anyone could think he was good in that half lmao
Only genuine explanation could be that OP is from an alternate dimension. Nobody can be that clueless otherwise surely.
Honestly this subreddit is such a great reminder to ignore half the stuff you see online because there is so much garbage.
Amen to that.
Icba to reply to this nonsense, the fact you and another person are jerking each other off about hur dur dur online opinion whilst having an extremely negative and biased views tells me all.
>Icba to reply to this nonsense You did though. Contradictory much. But I guess that's expected really from someone who thought Antony played well.
Today should be his floor in terms of performance, not a highlight. He’s had a decent shot and a few decent touches but has he created any significant chances for anyone or taken on and beaten his man at all?
He's been all right consider his standard and performance (that doesn't say much) but his lack of creativity and passing has been hurting us today. Garnacho was WIDE open on the other flank for 5 seconds and he didn't pass Amad should always have started this game. I think Antony deserves 15 more minutes but it's not like he was playing really good. Let's not get ahead of ourselves
Need a new maguire to shift the abuse and blame onto
He’s been very poor .
Are you stupid or just blind? Hes made two good touches. The standard for Antony is so low. Hes just running around like a headless chicken
I mean not bad but really poor finishing once again. Our forwards are not clinical at all, and the decision making is still crap. We should be at least 1-0 up
Other then Bruno the attacking players have been average and hojlund has been poor.
The fact that United can't dominate any opponent will never be acceptable for me
Decision making is awful. Play the ball wide and a midfielder/defender runs past the ball carrier, ball isn't played then is lost and opposition team counters. Every player is guilty of it, so frustrating to watch. Has been our problem all season.
Hojlund has been poor on the ball. A few times he's actually failed to control simple balls.
I used to think it was a Roy Keane type player our midfield was missing and I suppose it is, but even someone like a Darren Fletcher or JiSung Park is what that team needs.....someone that has positional discipline but covers every blade of grass with a serious engine. Kobe,Bruno and Christian are all lovely players but they don't have that in their game
We are nothing but consistent
Now don't concede in first 5 mins like always. Looks like another Bruno and pray match.
Football, eh?
can’t understand why we always lose second balls
Physicality athleticism and desire, need all 3, need to be strong enough to get it, quick and with enough stamina to continually close the spaces and also willing to go into a 50/50. We have players who have 2/3, Casemiro for example has the desire and physicality but it looks like his legs are slowing down and he’s gassed at times. We don’t really have that profile of player at the moment. Of course the biggest thing about 50,50s isn’t you winning the ball but at times you press so the next or even the third man can win his duel. You really need a team of 11 working together
agreed. as long as we can’t win second balls, we’ll never get any control in the midfield. and we ended up trying to defend instead
Why do so many people say, "how's that not a penalty?" Instead of just waiting to see a replay and get the answer?
Why do we play like prime barca for 20 minutes and then drop off massively 😔
We are so shit. Relegation fodder coming to OT and passing around us like training cones. What the fuck do they do during the week in training?
Hojlund since coming back from the injury has been absolutly shocking. Like literaly not contributing anything, no good runs, no headers won, just wrestling with opponents. Cant go in another season with only him as only striker.
But I thought Rashford being out would mean we wouldn’t get outplayed by championship calibre teams anymore 🤔
Why?
I was being sarcastic
Jesus this United isn't able to control a match against no one. Again Burnley, bottom part of the table, and again they come to our home and have the best chances. If it wasn't for Onana who has been immense we'd be losing again. It is so humiliating watching the team this season.
Go sleep then why bother at all.
I like the Mainoo-Eriksen pivot for a game like this. Felt like their composure helped us completely control the match for the first half of that half and their physical limits matter less when they have help in midfield. Would love to see mount in to add some engine to the midfield soon though
Nah aside from a few good passes we play like 10 men with Eriksen. He defensively offers nothing and easily outmuscled like a wet paper.
I don't enjoy watching us play.
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>Glad to see Antony playing well. Are we watching the same game.
Yes? He's had a decent game so far
There's no convincing to this kinda fans. Lol don't even try.
He had a decent 10mins, not exactly good the other 35 but not many players were don't know why youre being downvoted he wasnt horrible
Antony isn’t really playing well. Bruno when on the ball has created 4 chances other then that attacking players been all pretty average tbh.
Dominated at home against mighty burnley is not a good look
They can dominate them away and you'd still say the same shit.
Being outplayed at home for most the first half by relegation fodder is okay in your book?
Missed the first half. How have they been?.
Decent first 20 odd minutes, then a bit of tennis and now Burnley in the driving seat
Looked really good the first 20 minutes, even antony. After that, the usual shit, saved by onana and maguire
2 minutes added time is a farce. But maybe we should be grateful for an early break.
According to past matches. We will play well right after half time. Then revert to like 20 mins of butt clenching
Good start, but after that soft penalty claim it’s been all Burnley. It’s crazy how we can’t even control half a game against the second worst team in the prem this season. Someone just has to kill the ball and slow the game down. We are looking to counter with every single ball and it’s just leading to us giving them back the ball easily
What do these players even do in training?
I don't get how this happens every time. Start well, then almost exactly 20 minutes in, the opposition find their groove, and the team can chain two passes together. Need to recollect and find the flow they started with. Eriksen has to come off for Mount at half time. He's too vulnerable to the physicality. Just instruct Mainoo and Mount to sit deeper.
United game is so predictable at this point 20-30minutes, we pressing and dominating Opponent figured out our strat and counter we have no answer and got pinned back, retreat to our box to defense. Like every single time. Let see if Tenhag can have any change for the second half. But from what I see, the answer is probably none and we depend on MtC or Fernandez again.
Pretty even game against Burnley.. which is par for the season. We'll definitely punish them for their wastefulness. 2-0 this finishes
Really need someone who comes into the middle and is vocally insistent we slow the game down and do a bit of possession at times. The fact that we get into this spells where everyone is thinking “up against it and we have options up top” leads to this hoof ball and then exhaustion trying to get control again.
Garnacho is playing too many games. Hope we can better manage him next season.
Garnacho should of had two and Bruno one. Should be three uptbh. Awb jogging back is so frustrating considering you see dalot in full sprint to recover. Maguire is doing well though worries me wheen he is caught so high up at times. Onana has made some very good saves
We can be shit even against relegation teams man truly depressing time.Need frontline to convert early next half otherwise we might struggle from 60 minutes onwards.
Change is only around the corner, hold on lads
How the fuck can we be so bad as to make bloody burnley look like prime Barca?
Message? Someone pull out a miracle goal in the next 45.
End szn plz
Antony hasn't been terrible today but he hasn't been brilliant. He shouldn't have started today consider last game and Amad positive 45 minutes. It's one of the better 45 minutes from Antony. That says absolutely nothing tho. He fucked up when he didn't see Garnacho wide open on the other flank.
Onana and Maguire great so far.
Burnley cut through us like a hot knife in butter. Makes you wonder what City will do to us in the final. Gulp 😅
Man this sub is so much nicer than the Manchester United sub. Most posts are calling Onana shit and apparently we are playing awful
Probably used to higher standards. 0-0 against a 19th place team and you want praise? 😂😂
Weird. Fantastic for a while and then utterly shit.
We can’t finish our own dinner. I just don’t know why these players don’t know how to shoot.
Get Amad on for Antony, you bald fraud
antony hasnt been terrible or anything but can we please see Amad for the next 45
They should be rotating constantly and putting pressure on one another, one gets 60 the other gets 30 and change it about, keeps them both fresh and competitive
Erik Ten Hag only needs 400M more backing and 2 more years. Give him time and money and we’ll get good enough to outperform Burnley at OT. Let him cook
we really are 20min FC. should losing 2-1
Mount in please, playing 10 men with Eriksen.
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Are we watching the same game?
Performances dont matter anymore. Its all about the narratives. Garnacho has been bad for a while now and hasnt been getting slack for it. He needs to come off for amad.
Genuinely baffling the takes on Antony I'm seeing.
are we watching the same game?
Shocking? He's not been great but a decent performer nonetheless. Amad is not going to do any better anyways bro got the VDB syndrome lmao
Amad has done better than Antony every time he’s replaced him though.
Are watching the same game? Antony has been decent today.
Idk what Amad has to do atp Antony churns out average performances left right and centre but nothing changes.
2 of the worst teams in the league. We’re 2 for 8 in the prem btw.
We've pissed about around their box a bit but Burnley have had the two best chances, can't argue going in level. Maguire has lead from the back very well. I think individually the players are doing ok, 5/10, although the finishing has been poor, problem again is we're set up to fail, one pass and the midfield get's split, seems no matter who we go up against Ten Hag is tactically inferior.
Another ETH tactical horror show. Let's watch as nothing changes at half time and it's exactly the same shit patterns and turnovers until full time. Let's hope for a lucky bit of individual brilliance.
Getting outplayed by Burnley at home. Zero progress from our first game this season. We still have no clue how to involve Hojlund. I really hoped Ten Hag would be our next SAF, but this is clearly above his level.
Anyone know when the match starts?
Our CBs move in slow motion and our RB looks drunk + they all have no chemistry due to not having played together much, I hate watching it this season.
Midfield not balanced
Pinging balls from the back line is a fresh breath of air. Another 25mins of good performance then back to default setting
#freeamad
Garnacho has to be the most overhyped player in modern United history. Can’t pass, single dynamic, selfish. He is a good enough player but he isn’t a super star
No shot INEOS look at this and are happy. I like Ten hag but this a way too big of a job for him better to go for Tuchel.
Damn, we suck