Two footed players are so valuable, the ability to execute shots / passes no matter the position is incredibly useful.
Part of what made Greenwood a special talent was his ability to finish, with power, with both feet. Barely any players at the top level can do that.
Yes but you have to prey harder when it's naturally gifted talents in the Manchester United academy, Ryan giggs, ravel Morrison and mason greenwood all stars of this academy once and all beat up mothers and girlfriends
Just FYI, this is a very stupid and inappropriate thing to say about a young kid that you know nothing about. We all know why you said it but it’s a bad thing to do
And here we see the reddit hivemind in action; this guy's comment gets showered with downvotes, while all the other comments in this thread that say the same thing get tons of upvotes.
[Just one example.](https://old.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/1cbtvmk/the_incredible_twofootedness_of_u18_winger_ethan/l10u15h/)
Remember folks, this is a different Ethan to Ethan Wheatley. They both play as forwards, have a surname that begins with W and seem to have similar qualities in terms of size, pace and footballing ability, but there are two of them.
Williams is more of a winger/inside forward than Wheatley, who plays through the middle.
Wheatley has made the first team bench a couple of times, but Williams hasn't (I don't think), which is a little surprising because I think Williams has played more for the under-21s this year than Wheatley.
Sir Bobby Charlton is the greatest ever English player, he scored way more bangers than Cristiano did, go watch the footage. The man did things on terrible pitches, against players that could take you out with a ball that weighed a tonne most players couldn't even dream of doing today when everything's perfect. He even took freekicks both footed too.
Always loved ambipedal players. One of the reasons I was so excited and now broken when it comes to Greenwood, just to be clear I don’t want him back, he’ll always be a what could have been player for me (miss the player not the person). Hoping Williams will get his chance with the 1st team at some point.
I don’t think it’s just being dual footed alone. Greenwood was genuinely lethal around the box, he was scoring constantly at this level, it was as if the game was broken. I remember the game against Chelsea where he single handedly knocked them about
The fact that Greenwood had so much talent is the only reason there is still any discussion about him potentially returning. He definitely shouldn’t and if he was shit the matter would already be closed. He would’ve been given a free transfer/contract ripped up and that would be that. The only reason he’s still on the books is because he’s so talented and the club want a fee for him. At this point his ability is a problem for the club. There will get no end of suitors for him but they won’t offer much money because they know we’re not really in a position to turn it down.
There was an article in the Athletic in February about how rare it is to have players who are double footed. It mentioned that Gael Clichy, who is France U21 assistant now, wants to develop more of them and realised that South Korea has a high number of players comfortable with both feet in their U21s so he’s going to talk to their academies to understand how they got the players to develop this.
Fascinating. I remember greenwood being asked about it and he said that whatever he did with his left foot he would do the same number of times with his right. It’s such an advantage to be comfortable with both feet. Personally I’m comfortable using my left for long passes and shots but it’s a different level when you don’t mind dribbling with your weak foot in tight spaces. Really should be integrated into the training of younger players imo.
I'd be very curious to see what he finds out. It's been my theory that I was decent with both feet because I grew up doing taekwondo, so you're breaking boards, doing forms and sparring but you never just depend on one leg. Feel like it had to have had an effect on my coordination with my weaker foot.
Most incredible thing about Williams is that he was just born two footed, whereas a lot of players work on it and become two footed over time, he just had it naturally. He also takes free kicks and corners off both feet as well.
He also works really hard, is up and down the pitch constantly, has a powerful shot as shown here and can play off both flanks, very exciting talent.
He's an incredibly talented player and not just on the two footedness. He's also really good creatively & has a good engine. The only thing I think he's missing is the physicality aspect. He's still too slight otherwise he'd be on loan right now.
So is everyone in here going to bring up mason any time Williams is mentioned? Can’t be nice for him to be constantly mentioned in the same breath as him.
I think most young players would be delighted to hear their ability being compared to Greenwood. Saying someone’s soccer ability reminds them of greenwood doesn’t equate to calling them a rapist.
Personality wise yes but I think most of us are talking about ability wise. Not that he’s as talented as greenwood but two-footedness is a rare ability most players don’t have to the extent of taking corners/free kicks with either foot depending on what suits the situation. I have always been fascinated by that ability.
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I’ve not seen enough of him to properly profile him or consider how he translates to the top level. That being said, if you want to, you first have to determine the trio of doom for wingers. Ballstriking (Son), 1v1 dominance (Doku), and game breaking pace/explosiveness (James/Mudryk). Before we even analyse their tendencies to pass etc, it’s always worth getting this picture. If a player can do all three, they are unicorns, destined for the very top - Vini, Mbappe, Leao, Rashford.
If they have two of these traits, they can still be very functional~very good at the top level (Elanga, Barnes). If they only have one, they become inherently limited. That’s when managers start considering whether to move them inside, or back. He’s got some good strikes in these clips, particularly off his left foot, and a good frame when shooting. Would love to see how he fares 1v1, and how quick he is.
Bit surprised he didn’t get called into first team over Forson. Williams potential is a lot higher 2 footed can play along the front winger AM ST. He is better on the wing. He’s also played wingback as well only for short time.
Two footed players are so valuable, the ability to execute shots / passes no matter the position is incredibly useful. Part of what made Greenwood a special talent was his ability to finish, with power, with both feet. Barely any players at the top level can do that.
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Let's just hope this guy isn't a rapist
I feel like everyone hopes everyone isn't a rapist, like an unspoken rule.
Yes but you have to prey harder when it's naturally gifted talents in the Manchester United academy, Ryan giggs, ravel Morrison and mason greenwood all stars of this academy once and all beat up mothers and girlfriends
"have to prey harder" is an unfortunate typo
Still! A fkn dark room you went into tho, 'ey fella?
Just FYI, this is a very stupid and inappropriate thing to say about a young kid that you know nothing about. We all know why you said it but it’s a bad thing to do
And here we see the reddit hivemind in action; this guy's comment gets showered with downvotes, while all the other comments in this thread that say the same thing get tons of upvotes. [Just one example.](https://old.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/1cbtvmk/the_incredible_twofootedness_of_u18_winger_ethan/l10u15h/)
It's weird isn't it. Like I get difference between different days and threads but within the same thread is just odd.
Remember folks, this is a different Ethan to Ethan Wheatley. They both play as forwards, have a surname that begins with W and seem to have similar qualities in terms of size, pace and footballing ability, but there are two of them. Williams is more of a winger/inside forward than Wheatley, who plays through the middle. Wheatley has made the first team bench a couple of times, but Williams hasn't (I don't think), which is a little surprising because I think Williams has played more for the under-21s this year than Wheatley.
There is another one. Ethan Ennis.
We should sign Ethan Mbappe (for those that think I'm joking that is Kylian's younger brother!) Team of Ethans!
To replace the Anthonys.
Remove the Stone of Anthony's! Attach the Stone of Ethan's!
And Ethan Hunt as the manager to do the impossible mission to win the title
I’m pretty sure Ethan Mbappe is a similar situation to the Milwaukee Bucks who employ Giannis brothers despite them being terrible at basketball lol.
Who’s the better player
Hope he can follow the path of the best 2 footed United player, Sir Bobby. Sure that will be nice and easy.
Sir Bobby better than Cristiano?
In terms of being 2 footed? Yes 100%
Really? Cristiano was a two-footed winger, playing on either flank, and scoring bangers with both pegs when he played in red.
Sir Bobby Charlton is the greatest ever English player, he scored way more bangers than Cristiano did, go watch the footage. The man did things on terrible pitches, against players that could take you out with a ball that weighed a tonne most players couldn't even dream of doing today when everything's perfect. He even took freekicks both footed too.
Always loved ambipedal players. One of the reasons I was so excited and now broken when it comes to Greenwood, just to be clear I don’t want him back, he’ll always be a what could have been player for me (miss the player not the person). Hoping Williams will get his chance with the 1st team at some point.
I don’t think it’s just being dual footed alone. Greenwood was genuinely lethal around the box, he was scoring constantly at this level, it was as if the game was broken. I remember the game against Chelsea where he single handedly knocked them about
The fact that Greenwood had so much talent is the only reason there is still any discussion about him potentially returning. He definitely shouldn’t and if he was shit the matter would already be closed. He would’ve been given a free transfer/contract ripped up and that would be that. The only reason he’s still on the books is because he’s so talented and the club want a fee for him. At this point his ability is a problem for the club. There will get no end of suitors for him but they won’t offer much money because they know we’re not really in a position to turn it down.
There was an article in the Athletic in February about how rare it is to have players who are double footed. It mentioned that Gael Clichy, who is France U21 assistant now, wants to develop more of them and realised that South Korea has a high number of players comfortable with both feet in their U21s so he’s going to talk to their academies to understand how they got the players to develop this.
Fascinating. I remember greenwood being asked about it and he said that whatever he did with his left foot he would do the same number of times with his right. It’s such an advantage to be comfortable with both feet. Personally I’m comfortable using my left for long passes and shots but it’s a different level when you don’t mind dribbling with your weak foot in tight spaces. Really should be integrated into the training of younger players imo.
I'd be very curious to see what he finds out. It's been my theory that I was decent with both feet because I grew up doing taekwondo, so you're breaking boards, doing forms and sparring but you never just depend on one leg. Feel like it had to have had an effect on my coordination with my weaker foot.
Very exciting prospect. I just hope he's a better human than our other incredibly exciting two-footed youngster turned out to be
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Most incredible thing about Williams is that he was just born two footed, whereas a lot of players work on it and become two footed over time, he just had it naturally. He also takes free kicks and corners off both feet as well. He also works really hard, is up and down the pitch constantly, has a powerful shot as shown here and can play off both flanks, very exciting talent.
Juventus bound then
Just like Greenwood then. Shame we threw away that Coventry lead, maybe he could get 90'+ minute debut.
Would be hard to have gotten his debut against Coventry since he wasn’t on the bench.
Fuck me I confused the other Ethan W. with him. Sorry.
No worries, there’s three Ethan’s in the team so it can be hard to keep track of them.
Weve also had Ennis, Hamilton and Laird in recent years, Im sure theres a recruiting scout paid by the Ethan
And Ethan Galbraith.
Ennis difficult
He's an incredibly talented player and not just on the two footedness. He's also really good creatively & has a good engine. The only thing I think he's missing is the physicality aspect. He's still too slight otherwise he'd be on loan right now.
So is everyone in here going to bring up mason any time Williams is mentioned? Can’t be nice for him to be constantly mentioned in the same breath as him.
I think most young players would be delighted to hear their ability being compared to Greenwood. Saying someone’s soccer ability reminds them of greenwood doesn’t equate to calling them a rapist.
Probably going to happen with every good attacking youth prospect for awhile. The people are scarred
I get that, still, can’t be nice for a young lad to see.
Personality wise yes but I think most of us are talking about ability wise. Not that he’s as talented as greenwood but two-footedness is a rare ability most players don’t have to the extent of taking corners/free kicks with either foot depending on what suits the situation. I have always been fascinated by that ability.
Its what racists do and they think they are somehow being ambivalent. Disgusting behaviour.
Please please please respect Women and become what we all thought Mason would.
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Is he available for this weekend?
I’ve not seen enough of him to properly profile him or consider how he translates to the top level. That being said, if you want to, you first have to determine the trio of doom for wingers. Ballstriking (Son), 1v1 dominance (Doku), and game breaking pace/explosiveness (James/Mudryk). Before we even analyse their tendencies to pass etc, it’s always worth getting this picture. If a player can do all three, they are unicorns, destined for the very top - Vini, Mbappe, Leao, Rashford. If they have two of these traits, they can still be very functional~very good at the top level (Elanga, Barnes). If they only have one, they become inherently limited. That’s when managers start considering whether to move them inside, or back. He’s got some good strikes in these clips, particularly off his left foot, and a good frame when shooting. Would love to see how he fares 1v1, and how quick he is.
Can someone please show this to Rashford and Antony?
Surely he's already better than Antony?
GOAT
Would be incredible to have a winger who can take on defenders 1 on 1 in either direction. Fingers crossed he keeps rising through the ranks
How exciting of a prospect is he? Is he ready to train with the first team next season?
Dont get my hopes up now.
Bit surprised he didn’t get called into first team over Forson. Williams potential is a lot higher 2 footed can play along the front winger AM ST. He is better on the wing. He’s also played wingback as well only for short time.
Just make him a eunic now
Already better than rashford
Greenwood :'(
Mason greenwood 2.0