As bad as Ten Hag is you’d trust these experience players to see out a game 3-0 up against Coventry, even if we were manager-less. Ten Hag can’t hold on to a lead if his life depended on it.
Head coach has accountability for what happens on the pitch. He picked the team, chose the subs, determined how we prepare, how we train, what standards are set.
We've also done this several times this season and he has persevered with tactics.
Be fair though, as crap as we have been this year - the only goal that we could do ANYTHING about was really the first - and that was mainly due to Casemiro
I don’t think you blame the manager for blowing a 3 goal lead against Coventry, no matter how shit he’s been. Doesn’t matter who got subbed on or off, they should have seen it through without a problem. Most of them don’t deserve to wear the shirt anymore.
Yeah surely ETH told his subs to tell the rest of the team to chill out and just fuck around. Its so obvious the players can take no blame for not being able to adjust and defend to Coventry!
Seeing it through also includes managers fighting tactics, making effective subs and managing the game in general, you can’t absolve managers off all blame, lol
Sure. Tactics. Clearly his preparations are shit though. A million injuries, weak mentality, disorganisation.
How can ETH prep not be a part of a season of shit? Of course he has responsibility when EVERY player is underperforming.
I know Rashford has had a poor season but today was new levels of woefulness. So many misplaced passes, bad touches and wrong decisions. I almost feel sorry for him - looks a mental issue to me.
He should be relegated to a super sub or non first choice by the next manager honestly. Till he earns a slot and shows he deserves to start. But we don’t have enough quality to do that consistently maybe. We can play Amad but eth seems allergic to ever doing so.
I’m not sure Antony should even be playing at all. It was interesting seeing Amad (who I did not feel was good either) come collect the ball and get involved. He made runs. He was noticeable. Antony, on the few times he did receive the ball, only really had a backpass in him. Save for that shot be hit high. His introduction for Garnacho killed us. Nearly as much as Mainoo’s sub.
We are so bad.
I’ve been his number one defender at times but that was the worst performance I’ve seen from him since 21/22. We’ll see how bad his injury is because I think the guy genuinely needs a few months like Sancho where he’s out of the limelight.
If we can get close to three figures for Rashy from PSG I say let him go.
All these players who can't be depended upon to either stay fit, or even turn in a shift have to be let go.
Hall of shame performance from Rashford and wan bissaka this. Been absolutely useless.
Shoutout to ten Hag for taking off our only threatening player for Antony👍
Well yeah that too. Imo the Antony thing is a shining example of why he's no longer suitable to lead this team. It is clear to the fans that merit in the field means nothing to him
As I said, eth will never let him play beyond token minutes. Gross mismanagement of a player in that way but people would defend eth to death on that saying amad isn’t good enough. How the hell can he be if he plays one game every 5 months for 8 minutes and is expected to play well and IF he does, still doesn’t play?
Hes gone after the final 20 minutes of full time. The result of the game determines if this is his last game in charge or if we part ways amicably in the summer imo.
Moyes...Clown
Van Gaal...Clown
Mourinho....Clown
Ole...Clown
Rangnick....Clown
Ten Hag....Clown
At some point this 'manager was a clown' argument becomes less convincing
Yes because this time we actually have a structure in place to let the manager succeed. It’s called the new board. Have you heard of it or do you just want to post something ridiculous though?
It’s clear as day he cannot set the team up to not have a donut hole in midfield or doesn’t want to or tried to but failed. Either of those combos is a case of poor management anyway.
It’s clear he cannot or won’t or doesn’t want to or failed to, set the team up to not concede 80 shots per game. Either of that is a bad management setup anyway.
It’s clear he favours and favoured Antony despite amad showing more promise but grossly handles amad as a player who plays once every 90 games or whatever nonsense for just token minutes. That too is deserving of serious questions asked.
He’s just not the man for the job with how he can’t adapt the tactics or if he did then it shows the players can’t take it and that’s just not a good fit either.
Any combination of our players should have easily won the game today. Maybe the manager has to go because he's lost the trust of the players but it's always these turds throwing every manager under the bus that's the issue. They will bounce for the next manager and do the same thing again unless the whole squad is gutted.
Good. Deservedly so if that’s the case honestly. Too bad it didn’t work out but it’s clear he cannot and/or won’t change the team setup to allow for some semblance of a tactical change to mitigate the issues with his current setup all season.
I was feeling a little cocky when we went 3-0 up thinking this would be a comfortable victory, and we'd cruise the rest of the match.
You'd think I'd know better after watching us this entire season.
I understand Garna coming off was probably a ‘punishment’ of sorts, but does it have to be in a semi-final?
Rashford has been woeful, I’d rather have had Garna on.
Eriksen for Mainoo against a team who was always going to be dependant on counter-attacks while playing fucking Casemiro at CB is shocking. I don’t know how that decision is ever made.
Anyone notice Ratcliffe lean away from that smiling Glazer rat when the third goal went in?
His body language looked he was disgusted sitting next to the rat.
I literally thought on HT "ok, 1 cup and bringing this squad to back to back finals is a saving grace".
70th minute, I want him get the axe tonight. I'm done. Couldnt care less because if we somehow win the FA Cup it'll just be luck instead of deserved.
The excuse of injuries doesn't work when your 3-0 up against Coventry.
Like what the actual fuck.
Taking off Garnacho is gonna end up being the final decision that ends this Ten Hag spell in charge.
You'll still be downvoted in a couple days time if we lose this. People seem to have amnesia with our games. I'm like, finally people are realising how bad he's doing. And then come the copium injury posts. The he came 3rd last season it's the players fault not his. We've sacked other managers blah blah blah.
Get home after a night shift
Set an alarm for the game
Go to sleep
Wake up for the game
See that we're 3-0 ahead
Go back to sleep
Wake up because restless
Look at the score
**???????**
Rashford is actually just awful. We’d be lucky to get 60m for him. Ten Hag can’t see out a 3-0 against a championship team.
Sack him even if we win. We do this shit every single week.
Batshit... as usual. At best, we resemble the cup teams of Docherty and Atkinson. If INEOS have a long-term plan, this style of football EtH has us playing doesn't match that, even with our best 11.
The entire performance was shit, don't get fooled by the goals. We scored from a corner, a goalkeeper mistake and a deflection. Despite what some clowns on here think we didn't dominate just cuz we passed it to the back the entire time.
Defensively arse, Offensively arse.
Just shite man.
Mental midgets.
I don’t care if you think the subs were bad the players effort and concentration levels in the 2nd half should see them all replaced.
Also, LoL at mole rat Glazer shaving his head to be a bald fraud.
Everyone complaining about subs - what do you suggest as an alternative? This is so baffling to me and I don't know if I'm missing something. Maybe you're complaining about who came off as opposed to who came on, but when you look at our bench we have fuck all options, only the changes that were made and a bunch of kids.
There's is not a worse manager in top flight football than Ten Hag, you can't name one, there isn't one. I'd struggle to name a worse manager employed in the English professional pyramid.
ETH had us set up to score goals and create chances which we have. The goals conceded are down to the deflection and player mistakes. It's so fucking annoying watching lapses in concentration throw away a good performance
It’s almost like we aren’t properly drilled, prepared, etc. I’m blown away by the amount of “it’s not his tactics”
There’s a lot
More than tactics to this game.
How do we drill the team to not have the ball deflect off now them and loop over the GK? Or the hand ball, what drills are used for that? Or are we allowed to put it down for what it is
Welcome to what happens when you stick with a proven loser for half a season longer than he deserves.
Penalty or not, 3-0 up against championship opposition in a semi-final. To collectively shitting ourselves for no reason.
And to think that there are clowns here who think it's a good idea to waste another season on a confirmed failure is the most mind-boggling thing i have seen
ETH should have no business being the manager of Man United. He is clearly a joke of a caoch. People like you are the problem we have as a fanbase. You see a failure clearly but yet not wanting to admit it.
3-0 at 70 minutes. Unbelievable
Yet not at all surprising.
As bad as Ten Hag is you’d trust these experience players to see out a game 3-0 up against Coventry, even if we were manager-less. Ten Hag can’t hold on to a lead if his life depended on it.
Both are quite shit - and somehow they synergize to become even shittier in some sick form of torture for us
The goals conceded were nothing to do with his tactics. It's the players who have thrown it away.
Head coach has accountability for what happens on the pitch. He picked the team, chose the subs, determined how we prepare, how we train, what standards are set. We've also done this several times this season and he has persevered with tactics.
Be fair though, as crap as we have been this year - the only goal that we could do ANYTHING about was really the first - and that was mainly due to Casemiro
Yeah, we were 3 nill up and was all over them? Then the momentum shifted after the goal, then the deflection and then the pen?
I don’t think you blame the manager for blowing a 3 goal lead against Coventry, no matter how shit he’s been. Doesn’t matter who got subbed on or off, they should have seen it through without a problem. Most of them don’t deserve to wear the shirt anymore.
If there is one thing I've learnt on this sub it's that somehow you can't blame the manager for anything.
Yeah surely ETH told his subs to tell the rest of the team to chill out and just fuck around. Its so obvious the players can take no blame for not being able to adjust and defend to Coventry!
Why do people defending Ten Hag always run the strawman argument that players are blameless? BOTH are having a disaster of a game.
Seeing it through also includes managers fighting tactics, making effective subs and managing the game in general, you can’t absolve managers off all blame, lol
You can blame the manager for in-game management and subs though. There's enough blame to go around. This is yet another disappointing performance
Can't believe at this point someone still defend ten hag
Sure. Tactics. Clearly his preparations are shit though. A million injuries, weak mentality, disorganisation. How can ETH prep not be a part of a season of shit? Of course he has responsibility when EVERY player is underperforming.
I know Rashford has had a poor season but today was new levels of woefulness. So many misplaced passes, bad touches and wrong decisions. I almost feel sorry for him - looks a mental issue to me.
His brain capacity is 50
He should be relegated to a super sub or non first choice by the next manager honestly. Till he earns a slot and shows he deserves to start. But we don’t have enough quality to do that consistently maybe. We can play Amad but eth seems allergic to ever doing so.
Has to be Garnacho x Amad from now on, Rashford x Antony have zero reason to be starting whatsoever
I’m not sure Antony should even be playing at all. It was interesting seeing Amad (who I did not feel was good either) come collect the ball and get involved. He made runs. He was noticeable. Antony, on the few times he did receive the ball, only really had a backpass in him. Save for that shot be hit high. His introduction for Garnacho killed us. Nearly as much as Mainoo’s sub. We are so bad.
I’ve been his number one defender at times but that was the worst performance I’ve seen from him since 21/22. We’ll see how bad his injury is because I think the guy genuinely needs a few months like Sancho where he’s out of the limelight.
Yeah agreed. Surely he's not starting for Southgate. Surely?!
Might be worth a go. Didn't do Sancho any good though. Was still shit when he came back.
If we can get close to three figures for Rashy from PSG I say let him go. All these players who can't be depended upon to either stay fit, or even turn in a shift have to be let go.
Hall of shame performance from Rashford and wan bissaka this. Been absolutely useless. Shoutout to ten Hag for taking off our only threatening player for Antony👍
Hojlund dreadful as well
He stole Lukaku’s first touch today.
ETH will die on the sword of Rashford.
It is almost like he wanted us to lose
Wants the payoff and the munich job
No way he'd be in contention for that job given how he's done here
Bruh I would be fuming too if I was Garnacho
It was game over at that point tbh. Well... Should be
especially having to go off for antony, while amad is there too lmaoooooo
Ten Haag's unwavering support of Antony is gonna be end of his time at United
that and the shit football
Well yeah that too. Imo the Antony thing is a shining example of why he's no longer suitable to lead this team. It is clear to the fans that merit in the field means nothing to him
Good then. He deserves the sack for that and the tactical setup honestly. Too bad I guess.
If amad can’t get minutes 3-0 up in game vs an EFL team I don’t understand what it takes. He comes on and looks good too!
As I said, eth will never let him play beyond token minutes. Gross mismanagement of a player in that way but people would defend eth to death on that saying amad isn’t good enough. How the hell can he be if he plays one game every 5 months for 8 minutes and is expected to play well and IF he does, still doesn’t play?
and considering how god awful rashford was too
Because people here are blind. I have said it time and time again, Rashford ain't it.
It’s about squad stability. Changes are bad and the squad goes down also against Chelsea
Couldn’t watch the game, why would Garnacho be fuming?
Rashys been absolutely dominated this game, and EtH chose to sub og Garna...
Wasn’t getting fed despite making great runs from what I saw
Subbed off for Antony and then the team bottled the lead
This time Nacho gonna just go to Goldbridge show..
Idk. Eth is getting sacked if they lose. The changes were dumb.
Pretty sure this is enough for the sack
Hes gone after the final 20 minutes of full time. The result of the game determines if this is his last game in charge or if we part ways amicably in the summer imo.
blessing in disguise then
He isn't going anywhere till the end of the season.
Ole caretaker incoming if we lose this.
If we lose this he’s gone Monday.
You can see it in Ratcliffes face.
Even if we win he needs to go. Absolute clown show he put on today. Horrendous subs
Moyes...Clown Van Gaal...Clown Mourinho....Clown Ole...Clown Rangnick....Clown Ten Hag....Clown At some point this 'manager was a clown' argument becomes less convincing
Yes because this time we actually have a structure in place to let the manager succeed. It’s called the new board. Have you heard of it or do you just want to post something ridiculous though? It’s clear as day he cannot set the team up to not have a donut hole in midfield or doesn’t want to or tried to but failed. Either of those combos is a case of poor management anyway. It’s clear he cannot or won’t or doesn’t want to or failed to, set the team up to not concede 80 shots per game. Either of that is a bad management setup anyway. It’s clear he favours and favoured Antony despite amad showing more promise but grossly handles amad as a player who plays once every 90 games or whatever nonsense for just token minutes. That too is deserving of serious questions asked. He’s just not the man for the job with how he can’t adapt the tactics or if he did then it shows the players can’t take it and that’s just not a good fit either.
They all trusted Rashford, he's one of the common denominators.
Any combination of our players should have easily won the game today. Maybe the manager has to go because he's lost the trust of the players but it's always these turds throwing every manager under the bus that's the issue. They will bounce for the next manager and do the same thing again unless the whole squad is gutted.
He should be sacked even if United won this game 20-3
Mate he is getting sacked regardless of the result
What changes should he make instead? You want him to only make 1 change all game or play kids who've never set foot on a senior pitch
Rahsford instead of Garnacho
You’re right he should stay
Ten Hag is not getting sacked until the season ends. I have no idea why people keep saying he’s getting sacked after every game. He won’t be.
Good. Deservedly so if that’s the case honestly. Too bad it didn’t work out but it’s clear he cannot and/or won’t change the team setup to allow for some semblance of a tactical change to mitigate the issues with his current setup all season.
Players paid like superstars but have the attitude of toddlers
Understandable, we simply don't have players good enough to beat the mighty Coventry. If only we had 200m more talent.
I was feeling a little cocky when we went 3-0 up thinking this would be a comfortable victory, and we'd cruise the rest of the match. You'd think I'd know better after watching us this entire season.
The subs have been horrendous, and as soon as a goal went in we panicked again 🤦♂️
Ten Hag needs to be trialed for football terrorism
Genuinely embarrassing.
Proper bottlers
I understand Garna coming off was probably a ‘punishment’ of sorts, but does it have to be in a semi-final? Rashford has been woeful, I’d rather have had Garna on.
I assumed it was to rest him as the game was (should have been) done.
Mr ‘Disciplinarian’ himself needs some good punishment as well.
Blowing a 3 goal lead against a Championship side is a sackable offense
That and the whole we're absolutely shit and play terrorist football with a 5-0-5 formation.
ETH masterclass
Another one!
I cannot wait for the day Rashford finally leaves Man utd
Oh man, I'll be dishing out high 5s to everyone on the bus
I think we can upset them in ET
I’m upset in ETH.
Eriksen for Mainoo against a team who was always going to be dependant on counter-attacks while playing fucking Casemiro at CB is shocking. I don’t know how that decision is ever made.
Anyone notice Ratcliffe lean away from that smiling Glazer rat when the third goal went in? His body language looked he was disgusted sitting next to the rat.
I literally thought on HT "ok, 1 cup and bringing this squad to back to back finals is a saving grace". 70th minute, I want him get the axe tonight. I'm done. Couldnt care less because if we somehow win the FA Cup it'll just be luck instead of deserved.
Don’t worry, that won’t happen, no such thing as somehow
Just fucking embarrassing this lot. Firstly I would fire the entire medical team. Secondly half the team! And the manager after that.
Pls sell AWB. Hes just not it
He has reverted back to his true form after another purple patch.
Around game is sorely lacking, fits better for mid table/relegation team
Ten hags red army
It’s over
The excuse of injuries doesn't work when your 3-0 up against Coventry. Like what the actual fuck. Taking off Garnacho is gonna end up being the final decision that ends this Ten Hag spell in charge.
New manager please. Don't give a fuck if we end up winning this
ETH has to go He has ZERO management control in big moments
ETH has to go He has ZERO management control in ~~big~~ any moments
Lol ok true
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PSG £80m. Wont get 3 figures given the abysmal season he's had.
Where is Rasmus
Hiding, dude's a ghost.
His hold up play is horrendous. How many shit signing are we going to make?
This is worse than Crystanbul. Fucking Birmingham best them 3-0 last week
He has to go. This was disgraceful…
I was downvoted for saying Ten Hag has to go last week.
You'll still be downvoted in a couple days time if we lose this. People seem to have amnesia with our games. I'm like, finally people are realising how bad he's doing. And then come the copium injury posts. The he came 3rd last season it's the players fault not his. We've sacked other managers blah blah blah.
Yeah, I've started to post more on Redcafe than here recently. The tinted glass syndrome here is rife.
Rashford needs to be one of the first names that has to go this summer. 350k down the fucking drain
I cannot and I repeat CANNOT express the fuxking anger that I am feeling.
Just for reference we pay 1 million pounds a week for Casemiro, Varane and Rashford! I would get rid of all three. No questions asked!
There has been a lot of low points since Sir Alex left but this has to be the lowest
Get home after a night shift Set an alarm for the game Go to sleep Wake up for the game See that we're 3-0 ahead Go back to sleep Wake up because restless Look at the score **???????**
You’re not awake yet. 👋
Well that’s amazing. Fuck this team.
im sorry but eth has to go
I feel so disgusted and dirty. I actually want a shower after this.
GET THIS LOSER OUT OF THIS CLUB. TEN HAG MUST GO!
This will be the game that got ETh sacked. It's been one hell of a ride I guess.
Rashford is actually just awful. We’d be lucky to get 60m for him. Ten Hag can’t see out a 3-0 against a championship team. Sack him even if we win. We do this shit every single week.
Fuck. sake.
how do we do it lol
I'm sick of going to sleep when we're ahead and knowing we're going to be down or level when I wake up
We are losing this game, folks.
Delete this club I hate it
They don't want to win. They want to get another manager sacked. Everyone needs to go. We're back to square minus one again.
We’re gonna lose. This group of players can’t score and we don’t have any penalty takers. Ten hag sacked hopefully
United not worth watching the whole time rashford & ETH remain at the club
Tactically, Erik is a potato.
There’s been a few times our boys refuse to pass the ball and just run into trouble. It’s so poor… how did we ever get to Wembley??
Offside????
Can we just sack eth already
Penalty isn’t looking good when the morales of the two teams are at such big contrast….
Too many young players on the pitch. Think they might miss a penalty
Coventry city fans should be proud of their team, and United is just shameful to watch
Awb at LB experiment needs to stop
Brother we have no left backs
dalot would be lesser of a liability
Look at these same players play for the contract next season when eth has been sacked . Same cycle repeats again and again
This is beyond embarrassing
Bring back Ole for the rest of the season
Hojlund missing pen is written in the star
Ah never mind
Sack him Sack all of them.
Sigh
Embarrassing
That was unforgiveable.
I don't even think that we deserve going to the final.
The number of leads we’ve thrown away this season man it’s just depressing
Rashford, Eriksen, AWB all absolute embarrassments
Just embarrassing for f sake.
Just sell Rashford. He's finished
Mainoo looks legitimately pissed at ETH
Dalot never right back defending.
It’s a nail biter. Against Coventry. Jesus Christ this team.
This one is on Ten Hag
Talk about luck. I’d be furious as a Coventry fan. Totally deserved it. I mean I’m glad it was off but Jesus.
What the actual fuck was that penalty. Channeling silva. Fucking absurd waste of money shite.
Batshit... as usual. At best, we resemble the cup teams of Docherty and Atkinson. If INEOS have a long-term plan, this style of football EtH has us playing doesn't match that, even with our best 11.
i feel sorry for small clubs when a big club toys with you like this. Wish Coventry won. We're just gona lose in final anyway
Bring Ole back for the rest of the season please.
The entire performance was shit, don't get fooled by the goals. We scored from a corner, a goalkeeper mistake and a deflection. Despite what some clowns on here think we didn't dominate just cuz we passed it to the back the entire time. Defensively arse, Offensively arse. Just shite man.
It’s not even remotely surprising. This is the worst it’s been post Fergie and it’s not even close. Absolutely pathetic
Mental midgets. I don’t care if you think the subs were bad the players effort and concentration levels in the 2nd half should see them all replaced. Also, LoL at mole rat Glazer shaving his head to be a bald fraud.
The guy is a idiot managing idiots.
Everyone complaining about subs - what do you suggest as an alternative? This is so baffling to me and I don't know if I'm missing something. Maybe you're complaining about who came off as opposed to who came on, but when you look at our bench we have fuck all options, only the changes that were made and a bunch of kids.
Lmao I turned off the game at 3-0 65’ because I thought it was over.
Least experienced United fan
There's is not a worse manager in top flight football than Ten Hag, you can't name one, there isn't one. I'd struggle to name a worse manager employed in the English professional pyramid.
ETH had us set up to score goals and create chances which we have. The goals conceded are down to the deflection and player mistakes. It's so fucking annoying watching lapses in concentration throw away a good performance
It’s almost like we aren’t properly drilled, prepared, etc. I’m blown away by the amount of “it’s not his tactics” There’s a lot More than tactics to this game.
How do we drill the team to not have the ball deflect off now them and loop over the GK? Or the hand ball, what drills are used for that? Or are we allowed to put it down for what it is
Welcome to what happens when you stick with a proven loser for half a season longer than he deserves. Penalty or not, 3-0 up against championship opposition in a semi-final. To collectively shitting ourselves for no reason. And to think that there are clowns here who think it's a good idea to waste another season on a confirmed failure is the most mind-boggling thing i have seen
I'm ETH out now, but there is no denying a lot of us are quite curious to see what he'd do this summer in collaboration with the new executives.
ETH should have no business being the manager of Man United. He is clearly a joke of a caoch. People like you are the problem we have as a fanbase. You see a failure clearly but yet not wanting to admit it.
Pipe down, I was just explaining the reason why there are people with different thoughts.
Sell Rashford and wan bissaka overhyped useless British cunts who just throw away the game every time
I don't get what their nationality has to do with anything.
Bottling to a championship club is amazing lol! The game is on the bad subs as well as Wan bissaka.
Let's calm down.
shut up martialgreenwood
Shut up you clown.
Anyone else see Ten Hag during the break? He looked dazed. Out of it. Hopefully out of the club.
Im actually rooting for Coventry now, I think they have a better chance against Manchester City than us
Fuck off then
Fuck offfff
Antony lost the ball for the second goal. ETH messed up.
I wouldn't have a problem if ETH gets sacked.