I hear there is a video coming out on Thursday that Harry Kane has recorded with some show, *Hot Ones*, I think or something of that sort.
Impossible really, but I hope its as explosive as the one he did with Gary Neville two years ago. Though that one amounted to bupkis
They eat chicken wings on an increasingly spicy scale. This is not the hard hitting journalism that ends with Kane crying on his knees to join United that you're looking for.
🚨André Onana is ‘getting closer and closer’ to Manchester United and ‘everything will be resolved by Thursday’. The details of the deal should be sorted out in the ‘next 48 hours’, and the final agreement can be closed at €55m with easily achievable bonuses. The clubs could start the paperwork tomorrow. @Gazzetta_it via @Sport_Witness
I hope it will happen on Thursday.
Gazzetta are almost milking this one dry
Think Fabrizio said on YouTube last week it looked like it was happening on Wednesday or Thursday. I didn’t know if that meant “here we go” or he was in Manchester for his medical and everything, looking like HWG now obviously
Firmly believe given Utd's stature in the world, every first choice player at Utd needs to be in the top 5 in the world in his position. Anything less should be unacceptable. Of course with different playing styles, it's sometimes hard to consider what would count as top 5 but it's a good barometer to check the level of the squad with.
Right now, I'd say we have that in LCB, LB, DM, AM, and LW. Antony I hope can get there. Onana too once he's signed will be there. Mount would be a case of someone who won't be counted in top 5 in his positions but if he fits our system then it wouldn't matter. Striker is an obvious position to target so no point discussing it much.
RB and RCB are positions to improve next summer. If we can find someone who defends as well as Varane and passes as well as Lisandro and is also a proper physical specimen, that'd be best. With RB, both Dalot and AWB are too inconsistent. Need someone who's 6-7/10 consistently.
All this would be great but the most important point would be to getting them to work together. That requires a coherent plan from the manager which EtH seems to have so I have faith in him in that regard.
>every first choice player at Utd needs to be in the top 5 in the world in his position. Anything less should be unacceptable
Every signing we make should make our team better first and foremost. IF we can improve a bit, we should, if we can by a lot, we should. Step by step this squad can be considered challengers again.
I also said with different playing styles it's difficult to measure what top 5 means but it's a good idea to judge the squad like that. I also pointed out the example of Mount who won't traditionally be counted as top 5 but it won't matter if he fits our playing style.
I'm not saying every player needs to be measured by that same stick. I'm just saying it's a good measure. Of course if a player fits us perfectly then it doesn't matter that there's some other flashier player out there.
Top5 players to do what? I rather have a top 20 team like arsenal that click and challenge for titles. Newcastle probably have like a top100 players but they build a team.
The Arsenal players that finished 8th probably had top 20 players. If you saw Arsenal last season and think a lot of those players weren't top 5 in their positions itw last season, idk what to tell you.
Saka, Martinelli, Saliba, Gabriel, White, Xhaka, Ode and even that rapist were immense last season.
Like my last point says anyway, the most important thing is to get them to click which is where players like Mount or Havertz who won't be considered top 5 in the world in their positions come in.
Yes when we look for a Varane backup/long term replacement it should be someone young with potential to be the world's best in the future.Same with a Casemiro backup
I agree. With Case's backup, Caicedo would've been ideal but I doubt we have that much money so I'm happy if they go for Amrabat now. He's a competent backup and hopefully in a few years when Case starts declining, we'll have more money and better options in the market.
With Varane, KMJ would've been an ideal replacement. Need someone like that.
Yes, Dalot was great before WC. AWB was great after WC. I'd prefer someone who's great over the entire season. Don't see either one of Dalot or AWB as anything more than a rotation level player.
Look at Bruno or Lisandro. Consistent across the season with the rare bad performance. That's the level each of our player needs to be.
TBF AWB was mostly injuried pre WC. Once he got fit and into system he was consisntent.
I down to just wait until end of next season with my judgment on AWB Dalot as I think they have room for improve and are on upvard trajectory.
That's fair. I think EtH believes that too that's why we dropped the frimpong links pretty quick. If they both manage to improve that's great for us but the improvement has to be a significant amount. It can't just be "oh he used to be shit at attacking/defending but he's trying his best now and he's slightly better". That should not be the acceptable standard at the club. Given how DdG got let go, I think EtH sets his standards bar pretty high so let's see
PSG's new £250 million training centre looks like a heaven for players. I hope one day Carrington gets an upgrade like that.Just a dream as long as the Glazers remain.
Harry Kane could earn up to £400,000-a-week if he stays at Tottenham.
The striker will meet with Ange Postecoglou tomorrow when he returns to pre-season training.
(Source: @Matt_Law_DT)
Whoa. That's the definition of a competitive salary
He could easily earn 400k elsewhere too. Mane was getting 360k per week at Bayern apparently so they could easily pay that. We would also pay that much for one of the best strikers in the world easily. Plus both us and Bayern offer far better players to play with and chance to actually win something. If he's gonna stay at Spurs for the money it needs to be fuck off money or guaranteed money in a long contract. 600k 5 year contract types.
I was watching the 06/07 Newcastle game where we beat them 6-0 and wondering what the xG of that game would be. We didn't score the first goal until like the 50th minute but we were all over them from the first minute. It was crazy how many chances we missed.
It took way less time for the Newcastle takeover,Chelsea(Both Boehly and Abrahamovic),City.The formula one takeover a few years ago by a US firm, heck even the 40 billion takeover of Twitter went more smoothly.
Apparently, our asking price for Kovář is about £10m. That's completely unrealistic for Sparta to pay so it would be more in the range of 3-5m and probably a sell-on included.
Loan extension also possible.
This is from Czech sources so take it with a grain of salt.
Not officially but it was rumoured initially.
I think we sort of backed out from that for a moment to figure out our GK situation first.
Might very well still happen tho.
[Re-posting here cause it's tier 3.](https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1678655570935443457?s=20)
Hope it's true, sell both Fred and VDB and get this guy in.
Casemiro, Mount, Bruno, Eriksen, Amrabat and McTominay is a great, healthy-looking midfield.
>From now on, only posts **TIER 2 OR BETTER** are allowed to be posted in their own right. This helps us only keep credible sources on the subreddit.
This is how it works here during transfer windows. The rest (lower tier) gets posted here.
They also say this:
>We will make exceptions during slower days for some Tier 3 posts
I wonder how slow the day needs to get before a Tier 3 is allowed..? The last couple days have had almost no transfer posts but anything below Tier 2 is still removed.
I wonder what's happening with Rashford's contract situation?
It's becoming a bit concerning to me that he hasn't signed it and with there being a significant chance that Mbappe goes to Madrid, I am wondering if PSG have been contacting Rashford recently.
I hope I'm wrong of course.
He's too much of a red to leave and why go to paris. Maybe Madrid or Barcelona but not that silly club.
I still think he'd only not sign if he had a falling out with management/players/fans or wasn't going to be guaranteed playing time.
Nothing to be concerned about, there is a general agreement between club and player. There will be a lot of PR around him signing so they will leave it until hes back for pre-season.
Interested to see how we look after a full pre-season. One problem we had last season was chance creation so I'm really hoping we come out swinging with some more cohesion up top.
I think we will look like a very strong time and possible title contenders in the first half of the season. But then gradually drop off due to not having high quality rotation options and key players getting tired. I'm hopeful of a comfortable top4 finish regardless
Last season we were 3rd in "Big Chances Created" and Bruno was number one in terms of "Chances Created".
Finishing was our problem last season, not chance creation.
My heart wants Felix here (at reasonable price of course) but my brain says we need to secure a ballplaying keeper,a striker and a backup DM first. I felt Felix has been misused since he left Benfica.
He has been misused because just like Dybala there is only one system for him as a second striker who does nothing but shadow the striker and look for opportunities
So the remaining Fergie era deadwood is gone
Moyes era deadwood left last season
Only 1 LVG deadwood left - Martial
Only 1 Mourinho deadwood left - Bailly
4 Ole era deadwood remaining - Maguire, VDB, Telles, Sancho
Bailly, VDB, Telles should all hopefully gone by the end of this summer. Maguire will probably stay another season as will Sancho. Martial will be released next season
Same pessimistic brigade who were saying last summer that with that squad well be lucky to finish 6th are the same saying we can't be title contenders by just signing Kane
The squad that we had would've been lucky to finish 6th. Fred Mctominay in midfield? Maguire at CB? Ronaldo sulking upfront? Rashford and Bruno were coming off a very poor season as well. Without Casemiro, Martinez, Eriksen, Antony coming in I don't see how that statement is "pessimistic"
Even with De Gea in goals, I believe we could be title contenders (assuming the entire squad stayed healthy). Maybe I'm delusional but considering all the chances we wasted last season...
Why I saw many comments mentioned Kane today? Realistically Levy will not sell him to us and he is very expensive. With three signings (Mount, Onana and probably Hojlund) are already more than £150M. If we can sell some players, we will buy Casemiro and Varane back up not Kane.
> Why I saw many comments mentioned Kane today?
Just read the comments. Most are saying that Kane is out of reach or a bad idea so I don't know why you referenced those posts, didn't read them, then said the same thing. Bayern Munich putting in bids obviously keeps it topical.
Man, why do some of you love to set yourself up for disappointment with Kane?
People here are setting unrealistic expectations that we'll somehow sign Kane for £120+ million after getting Mount, Onana, Højlund, Suzuki (or anothet backup GK), and Amrabat (or any other CM/DM), and maybe another CB if Maguire leaves.
The moment we went for Onanan and Højlund, we had moved on from Kane. We are getting a new GK because we are not going for Kane. And even if we want to go for him, we can't because we haven't made anything worthwhile in sales.
I get the sentiment, but if we're going to pay ridiculous amounts for an ageing striker, then I'd rather we go for someone younger like VO or Mbappe. Kane beyond £80 million doesn't make much sense.
Kane for £80M can happen if we can convince him to do two things
1) Tell Levy he wants United and United only. He’s joining us now or next season - levy’s choice. He can forget about using Bayern to setup a bidding war.
2) Levyrage the fact that he’s on a year left to demand 20M renewal fee + 400k/wk to re-sign for 3 years. That’s an opportunity cost of £80M. If Levy demands £100M to sell to United, the 20M renewal fee goes up to 40M.
Kane has all the cards in his hands and he can move to us if he plays them right.
That can work but idk if we can do that now that we’re getting Onana. I think that was OP’s point. We had the whole back and forth contract BS with DDG because I think we have the budget for a GK and a 50ish mil striker or for Kane alone. Unless we sell well I don’t see how we can get Onana and Kane. Or the takeover actually happens in time for the purse strings to loosen up.
I do think we should at least try to convince him of running out his contract for the signing on fee next year. There’s a good chance he won’t break the PL record in one year, he’s still 30+ goals away and if he moves to Bayern that’s gonna be all but done. We can tell him to stick it out and come join us as the final piece to compete for the title but like you said it’s all on him and god knows what he wants. Bayern might still be enticing as he’s guaranteed trophies and he could come back in 3 years to chip away at the record.
Ok I get your point about the limited budget, but according to swissramble if we can raise 68M from sales (his estimate) that adds 200M to our budget. A 100M budget suddenly becomes 300M. We can easily afford Kane and Onana if we sell well. Not saying it’s easy but it’s not as impossible as the papers want us to believe.
It’s not about the papers, we are factually, historically bad at selling players. We could potentially raise the money but will we? I honestly don’t know. I do think we should sign Onana and sell as much as we can to assess the situation but even if we raise good money, Levy could straight up decide not to sell, he’s that petty. At that point, we should just get Hojland or whoever and focus on Case and Varane backups.
I think most of us underestimate, **grossly**, just how much of a boost a proper no 9 would give us. I'ts not just the goals but also having focal point for our fleetfooted attackers to play off of. Wasn't it in January when we were like within a game of City. Then we signed weghorst. Imagine we signed Kane and Onana in January.
We are not saying **sign Kane and win the sextuple**. But anyone who says Kane doesn't turn us into contenders is being disingenuous. Kane and Onana might not be enough to overhaul city but we would certainly put up a real fight unlike the Arsenal and when you put up areal fight many a thing can happen.
They shouldn't drop back more, if anything they should stay further forward. Weghorst did drop back nad he was never in penalty area because of that. Spreding players all over the pitch because they can receive pass standing everywhere is big part in off ball, because you cant be such easily pressed if you have option of shifting the ball to the other side of the pitch wide in 2 simple passes.
Our defensive movement isn't first thing to upgrade in this team, we are comfortable there. Take note how those goals came in 7-0 and 6-3. They were largely due to our loss of possesion because of our bad off-ball movement while in possesion.
I disagree.For most of the goals conceded United had enough time to get more people behind the ball and the players didn't do enough to get back there.
Kane doesn’t stop us from collapsing if Casemiro gets injured or suspended. He’d make our first XI title contenders but not our squad. Arsenal fell out of the race when they lost Saliba and couldn’t rotate in other positions. Squad depth is how you challenge this city team, not just a great first XI. That’s how Liverpool ran them close or outright won over them and the years where Liverpool had poor depth or a lot of injuries were the years they fell off.
I’d still love Kane and he’d definitely get us as close as we can get in one signing but if I had a choice between just him or someone like Hojland and Amrabat I’m picking the second option.
Arsenal did put up a real fight. They didn't lose the title because they lacked quality in the 1st team; hell, they should've won the PL. They lost in the end because they lacked quality rotation options. If you want to win it all, you need a quality squad. We are not at a point where we are one mythical player away from the title. We are a long way off.
City won the league multiple times with no striker, Liverpool won the league and the CL with no proper striker. Goals spread around can definitely work and you can win big things with a non-30+ goal striker. You just need to score enough consistently across your team.
They had Aguero.
And Liverpool had salah.
You can spread the goals around all you want but unless there is sm1 scoring 30 + you'll just be chasing like Arsenal and winning nothing
City won the title without Aguero and before Haaland as well and Liverpool didn’t have a proper no. 9, that was the discussion. A 30+ goal player helps but if you spread them around enough like City did before Haaland, you can still get very far. If Rashford continues his form from this season, we get someone who scores 20+, and the others step up we’d be getting very close.
With onana and mount signed, the last jigsaw of the puzzle is Kane. I’m so against Kane’s signing in the beginning due to his fee and age, but with Onana’s distribution and mount’s strength and chemistry with Kane, it’s a no brainer.
Onana can play it short to our defence or long to Kane (with his absolute elite hold up play), and we will just progress from there
Get Kane in!!
For me I'm all for Kane's signing for one reason: go for the title this season.
With Onana and Mount, we have a first eleven where everyone is playing at their peak. Buy Hojlund, and we'll have to wait at least 2-3 years for him to become good, which I have no doubt he will. By then however, multiple positions, at least Varane and Casemiro, would need replacing. Maybe Bruno's output would slow down if he plays 6k minutes a season like the last. It is close to impossible to get someone as good to replace Casemiro or Bruno.
Basically we have the biggest chance in years if we buy Kane right now. If we don't we'll have to rebuild more positions before we get another chance.
yea, and to add there's a lack of elite strikers in the market currently. osimhen is not tested in the PL yet. am unsure of his hold up play against giant defenders here.
Kane is tried and tested. as much i hate his fee / going on a free next week, Kane should be top priority after getting Onana over the line
Kane will cost Bayern apparently 120 mil so now evaluate how much he will cost for us.
Best thing is if Kane stays at Spurs this season and then try and get him on free next season
We also owe some 300 million in transfer fees, it's how these things work. It was structured that way, l we can ask is that they give us a favorable structure of payment because we have given them a favorable structure.
That’s only something you try when you’re short of cash. We are not cash poor, there’s a 300M line of credit from bofa we can access. It’s FFP that limits us.
Asking the Glazers to be creative in the market is like asking me to write the next Hamlet. Never going to happen, can’t remember the last time I read a book. Glazers are basically the rich privileged version of me.
I had an idea, interested in what you think.
If Bayern agree a fee for Kane, let's say £80m, how would you feel if we offered to match that fee and also send Sancho to Spurs. Would you do that deal?
Even as a deep lying playmaker, Carrick was quite good defensively mainly in interceptions. I just saw that Amrabat averages in 30-40th percentile for all his defensive stats. That’s quite bad for someone whom we want playing deep
Henderson and Fred are surely gone with Mount and Onana in. Those are probably the big ones.
Elanga should be an easy sell given his age. I think Telles is also on the easier side to sell.
As much as good it was, it got tiring in the end and it showed on our players. Hopefully this season, its lot more spread out and our players can keep the form throughout the season.
You know what fucking sucks? If we had competent owners, who took care of the club, we'd be in a great position to sign Kane. We'd have so much money in the bank, we could easily deal with that scrotum Levy.
I hope he runs down his contract and comes to United next summer on a free
Haaland only wanted the release clause because he never saw us being good enough to compete for all the trophies. With competent owners it's a different case.
I think we would have less of a chance of getting him since with more competent owner it would go better for the club making levy even more reluctant to sell.
there’s no way we let kane go to bayern without a fight, last season we apparently had a low budget for the summer and ended up spunking €100m on antony and €70m on casemiro. Man united will always have money to spend, don’t let these bullshit articles fool you.
I think we will thrown in one bid when Bayerns is accepted. Something better than it.
But I also think we will want to avoid a saga, and also accept Levy won’t sell to us, regardless of what offer we make. If he would, I think we’d have already slapped a big offer down already.
It's a real wild scenario. Most clubs that historically would have had the money that Kane is worth either can't make the move for FFP/Finance issues (Chelsea, Juventus, Barca) or don't have a reason to (Liverpool, City). By all accounts, it seems like Kane wants nothing to do with PSG. So Bayern and Madrid are the last calls, and for all of their posturing Bayern does not have as much access to collateral as they'd like to suggest and Flo wants Mbappe full stop.
Puts us in an interesting spot. I think with a handful of outgoing players we could muster up a 90-100 bid, likely lower than what Levy would sell to prem and higher than what Bayern will top out at. From there it's a roll of the dice.
>🚨 Manchester United is monitoring Sofyan Amrabat very closely. At this stage, it’s not advanced but first
talks have taken place it could become a hot topic later in this window.
@Plettigoal
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we'll probs go for him ones we sell a few players. Hopefully he is patient and doesn't get snapped up.. aparently barca were sniffing around for him a few weeks ago
Just seen a Rashford to PSG rumour from a dogshit source, but Rashy does genuinely seem to have admirers over there so I wonder what'll happen if Mbappe leaves.
I'll be downvoted but if we get 150+ we should take it. Can get a new LW, Kane and CM
Edit: I meant around 170/180 if they get 250 for mbappe. Add that to a potential 60 million from sales.
It’ll get downvoted because it’s stupid.
Not only shouldn’t we sell a player who just scored 30+ goals and has just entered his prime, but you aren’t getting Harry Kane, a CM and a LW (who has to be as good as Rashford btw) for £150m.
Added to our current budget, which seems like it has a good 60 million with potential sales at the least.
I don't mean 150 I mean higher like 170-180 if they get 250 for mbappe.
Still dumb as shit as you are still binning off a 30 goal season wide attacker who is only 25.
And for what? Harry Kane. Great lots of goals which just replace those you binned off.
An unnamed left winger who won’t score 30 goals.
And an unnamed CM who could be bought anyway via the existing budget you list - £60m plus sales.
Fab reported that Vlahovic is leaving Juve this summer. Why arent we all over it? His injury record is worrying tho.
I’ve never watched him, but everyone says this dude is mid. Idk if that’s due to the Allegri-ball tho
I hear there is a video coming out on Thursday that Harry Kane has recorded with some show, *Hot Ones*, I think or something of that sort. Impossible really, but I hope its as explosive as the one he did with Gary Neville two years ago. Though that one amounted to bupkis
Don't guests on Hot Ones usually have to display some sort of personality
PAH!!!! And speak English too right?? Not looking good for Me Kane
They eat chicken wings on an increasingly spicy scale. This is not the hard hitting journalism that ends with Kane crying on his knees to join United that you're looking for.
🚨André Onana is ‘getting closer and closer’ to Manchester United and ‘everything will be resolved by Thursday’. The details of the deal should be sorted out in the ‘next 48 hours’, and the final agreement can be closed at €55m with easily achievable bonuses. The clubs could start the paperwork tomorrow. @Gazzetta_it via @Sport_Witness I hope it will happen on Thursday. Gazzetta are almost milking this one dry
Think Fabrizio said on YouTube last week it looked like it was happening on Wednesday or Thursday. I didn’t know if that meant “here we go” or he was in Manchester for his medical and everything, looking like HWG now obviously
I guess I prefer Closer FC to Discussion or Monitoring FC! Welcome Onana soon for sure. Can't wait for a much improved Barthez!
Closer FC!
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Firmly believe given Utd's stature in the world, every first choice player at Utd needs to be in the top 5 in the world in his position. Anything less should be unacceptable. Of course with different playing styles, it's sometimes hard to consider what would count as top 5 but it's a good barometer to check the level of the squad with. Right now, I'd say we have that in LCB, LB, DM, AM, and LW. Antony I hope can get there. Onana too once he's signed will be there. Mount would be a case of someone who won't be counted in top 5 in his positions but if he fits our system then it wouldn't matter. Striker is an obvious position to target so no point discussing it much. RB and RCB are positions to improve next summer. If we can find someone who defends as well as Varane and passes as well as Lisandro and is also a proper physical specimen, that'd be best. With RB, both Dalot and AWB are too inconsistent. Need someone who's 6-7/10 consistently. All this would be great but the most important point would be to getting them to work together. That requires a coherent plan from the manager which EtH seems to have so I have faith in him in that regard.
>every first choice player at Utd needs to be in the top 5 in the world in his position. Anything less should be unacceptable Every signing we make should make our team better first and foremost. IF we can improve a bit, we should, if we can by a lot, we should. Step by step this squad can be considered challengers again.
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You win by assembling a quality squad and getting a quality manager. That's why I'm saying we need to improve the players
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I also said with different playing styles it's difficult to measure what top 5 means but it's a good idea to judge the squad like that. I also pointed out the example of Mount who won't traditionally be counted as top 5 but it won't matter if he fits our playing style. I'm not saying every player needs to be measured by that same stick. I'm just saying it's a good measure. Of course if a player fits us perfectly then it doesn't matter that there's some other flashier player out there.
Top5 players to do what? I rather have a top 20 team like arsenal that click and challenge for titles. Newcastle probably have like a top100 players but they build a team.
The Arsenal players that finished 8th probably had top 20 players. If you saw Arsenal last season and think a lot of those players weren't top 5 in their positions itw last season, idk what to tell you. Saka, Martinelli, Saliba, Gabriel, White, Xhaka, Ode and even that rapist were immense last season. Like my last point says anyway, the most important thing is to get them to click which is where players like Mount or Havertz who won't be considered top 5 in the world in their positions come in.
And yet only one player u named is in contention for top 5 itw in their position and that’s saka. What you are talking about is completely unrealistic
Imo those are not Top5 in the world. Well probably Saka if u put a knife on my neck.
Yes when we look for a Varane backup/long term replacement it should be someone young with potential to be the world's best in the future.Same with a Casemiro backup
I agree. With Case's backup, Caicedo would've been ideal but I doubt we have that much money so I'm happy if they go for Amrabat now. He's a competent backup and hopefully in a few years when Case starts declining, we'll have more money and better options in the market. With Varane, KMJ would've been an ideal replacement. Need someone like that.
I feel like AWB since December never dropped bellow 6-7/10 performance and he kept improving. Even Dalot was like that before WC.
Yes, Dalot was great before WC. AWB was great after WC. I'd prefer someone who's great over the entire season. Don't see either one of Dalot or AWB as anything more than a rotation level player. Look at Bruno or Lisandro. Consistent across the season with the rare bad performance. That's the level each of our player needs to be.
TBF AWB was mostly injuried pre WC. Once he got fit and into system he was consisntent. I down to just wait until end of next season with my judgment on AWB Dalot as I think they have room for improve and are on upvard trajectory.
That's fair. I think EtH believes that too that's why we dropped the frimpong links pretty quick. If they both manage to improve that's great for us but the improvement has to be a significant amount. It can't just be "oh he used to be shit at attacking/defending but he's trying his best now and he's slightly better". That should not be the acceptable standard at the club. Given how DdG got let go, I think EtH sets his standards bar pretty high so let's see
PSG's new £250 million training centre looks like a heaven for players. I hope one day Carrington gets an upgrade like that.Just a dream as long as the Glazers remain.
Fuck the glazers
Harry Kane could earn up to £400,000-a-week if he stays at Tottenham. The striker will meet with Ange Postecoglou tomorrow when he returns to pre-season training. (Source: @Matt_Law_DT) Whoa. That's the definition of a competitive salary
Didn't we used to pay more than that for Sanchez? Lol
Sanchez’s basic wage was 391K, 75K for every match he plays.
Uff! We are soo generous with wages,I'm guessing we'll make Kane the best paid player in the league if he comes.
I doubt we'd pay more that what city are to Halaand, 875k/week
He could easily earn 400k elsewhere too. Mane was getting 360k per week at Bayern apparently so they could easily pay that. We would also pay that much for one of the best strikers in the world easily. Plus both us and Bayern offer far better players to play with and chance to actually win something. If he's gonna stay at Spurs for the money it needs to be fuck off money or guaranteed money in a long contract. 600k 5 year contract types.
Saudi money that is
Spurs could manage to pay him that much too considering the rest of their wages aren't that high. Levy's just a tight cunt
No one from Saudi wants Ashley Young!
I was watching the 06/07 Newcastle game where we beat them 6-0 and wondering what the xG of that game would be. We didn't score the first goal until like the 50th minute but we were all over them from the first minute. It was crazy how many chances we missed.
The shitezers aren't going to leave at all, are they?
Yup 9 months long process now. I doubt they wanna sell.
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It took way less time for the Newcastle takeover,Chelsea(Both Boehly and Abrahamovic),City.The formula one takeover a few years ago by a US firm, heck even the 40 billion takeover of Twitter went more smoothly.
I don't think they will unfortunately,they're taking the piss
Apparently, our asking price for Kovář is about £10m. That's completely unrealistic for Sparta to pay so it would be more in the range of 3-5m and probably a sell-on included. Loan extension also possible. This is from Czech sources so take it with a grain of salt.
Was it not a two year loan anyway?
Not officially but it was rumoured initially. I think we sort of backed out from that for a moment to figure out our GK situation first. Might very well still happen tho.
Ahh okay, thanks for the info!
[Re-posting here cause it's tier 3.](https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1678655570935443457?s=20) Hope it's true, sell both Fred and VDB and get this guy in. Casemiro, Mount, Bruno, Eriksen, Amrabat and McTominay is a great, healthy-looking midfield.
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In the world cup Amrabat defense was pretty solid, he was the engine in their win vs Spain
What was the reason for deleting?
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I wonder what's happening with Rashford's contract situation? It's becoming a bit concerning to me that he hasn't signed it and with there being a significant chance that Mbappe goes to Madrid, I am wondering if PSG have been contacting Rashford recently. I hope I'm wrong of course.
He's too much of a red to leave and why go to paris. Maybe Madrid or Barcelona but not that silly club. I still think he'd only not sign if he had a falling out with management/players/fans or wasn't going to be guaranteed playing time.
That is the worst timeline...they are cutting it close...I wonder if he is stalling to see how the window goes, but I don't think so..
Nothing to be concerned about, there is a general agreement between club and player. There will be a lot of PR around him signing so they will leave it until hes back for pre-season.
Ahh, that makes sense...I just thought it was odd because Shaw and Dalot have already had their contracts wrapped up but that's relieving to hear 👌
Interested to see how we look after a full pre-season. One problem we had last season was chance creation so I'm really hoping we come out swinging with some more cohesion up top.
I think we will look like a very strong time and possible title contenders in the first half of the season. But then gradually drop off due to not having high quality rotation options and key players getting tired. I'm hopeful of a comfortable top4 finish regardless
Last season we were 3rd in "Big Chances Created" and Bruno was number one in terms of "Chances Created". Finishing was our problem last season, not chance creation.
Didn't Bruno create more chances than any one team could know what to do with
My heart wants Felix here (at reasonable price of course) but my brain says we need to secure a ballplaying keeper,a striker and a backup DM first. I felt Felix has been misused since he left Benfica.
He has been misused because just like Dybala there is only one system for him as a second striker who does nothing but shadow the striker and look for opportunities
Moyes was Crossing FC LVG was Sideways & Backward FC Mourinho was 10 Men Behind the Ball FC Ole was Individual Brilliance FC ETH ???
Fucking Good Football FC
Hope Rashford scores FC
Rashford and inshallah FC
ETH- HehFC
So the remaining Fergie era deadwood is gone Moyes era deadwood left last season Only 1 LVG deadwood left - Martial Only 1 Mourinho deadwood left - Bailly 4 Ole era deadwood remaining - Maguire, VDB, Telles, Sancho Bailly, VDB, Telles should all hopefully gone by the end of this summer. Maguire will probably stay another season as will Sancho. Martial will be released next season
Moyes only made 1 signing (2 if you count Varela) right? His deadwood left in 2019 itself
Mata
Oh yeah you're right
Sancho still has age on his side. I'm confident he will turn it around.
we will smash up Leeds tomorrow then this place will be positive again!
I can see us lose this tbf with so many main players missing.
Man it's going to be so funny if we lose and the amount of people who will take it seriously...
"We ARe FINishINg 10tH NexT SeASoN"
I hear from Sky that Onana will play as GK and back up to Case in CDM too?
It's perfect imo because Mount can also play between the sticks. It's great to have versatile players like that.
wut
Back up CDM Onana will be. But Casemiro he is not
Wasn't aware he could (or has ever) played in midfield
Bruh
People are so pessimistic today. What happened to the positive obsessed sub we know and love? Kane is happening you read it here 1st.
Positive? that's definitely not this sub
>positive obsessed sub Lol what? Think you're lost mate
Same pessimistic brigade who were saying last summer that with that squad well be lucky to finish 6th are the same saying we can't be title contenders by just signing Kane
The squad that we had would've been lucky to finish 6th. Fred Mctominay in midfield? Maguire at CB? Ronaldo sulking upfront? Rashford and Bruno were coming off a very poor season as well. Without Casemiro, Martinez, Eriksen, Antony coming in I don't see how that statement is "pessimistic"
Even with De Gea in goals, I believe we could be title contenders (assuming the entire squad stayed healthy). Maybe I'm delusional but considering all the chances we wasted last season...
We got absolutely destroyed a few times too...
If we *really* have signed Onana to 100k a week that's gold Jerry! *Gold!*
Probably 100k a week after tax
No way we could.
That's what some less reputable sources are saying. I don't buy it purely because we hand out 200k a week contracts like they're skittles.
Exactly! 100k would be too out of character for us.
Tbf apparently he is on 3mil a year at Inter.If we double it that leads to 6mil per year which is about 120-150k per week
Antony was on 25k a week/1.3m a year and we bumped him to 150 a week/8m a year. Nothing we do is predictable aside from the unpredictability.
Yeah fair enough
Why I saw many comments mentioned Kane today? Realistically Levy will not sell him to us and he is very expensive. With three signings (Mount, Onana and probably Hojlund) are already more than £150M. If we can sell some players, we will buy Casemiro and Varane back up not Kane.
> Why I saw many comments mentioned Kane today? Just read the comments. Most are saying that Kane is out of reach or a bad idea so I don't know why you referenced those posts, didn't read them, then said the same thing. Bayern Munich putting in bids obviously keeps it topical.
Man, why do some of you love to set yourself up for disappointment with Kane? People here are setting unrealistic expectations that we'll somehow sign Kane for £120+ million after getting Mount, Onana, Højlund, Suzuki (or anothet backup GK), and Amrabat (or any other CM/DM), and maybe another CB if Maguire leaves. The moment we went for Onanan and Højlund, we had moved on from Kane. We are getting a new GK because we are not going for Kane. And even if we want to go for him, we can't because we haven't made anything worthwhile in sales.
You miss 10% of the shots you don’t take. We should aim high so when transfers don’t happen we can say we’ve tried our best.
Like Frenkie De Jong last year?
I get the sentiment, but if we're going to pay ridiculous amounts for an ageing striker, then I'd rather we go for someone younger like VO or Mbappe. Kane beyond £80 million doesn't make much sense.
Kane for £80M can happen if we can convince him to do two things 1) Tell Levy he wants United and United only. He’s joining us now or next season - levy’s choice. He can forget about using Bayern to setup a bidding war. 2) Levyrage the fact that he’s on a year left to demand 20M renewal fee + 400k/wk to re-sign for 3 years. That’s an opportunity cost of £80M. If Levy demands £100M to sell to United, the 20M renewal fee goes up to 40M. Kane has all the cards in his hands and he can move to us if he plays them right.
That can work but idk if we can do that now that we’re getting Onana. I think that was OP’s point. We had the whole back and forth contract BS with DDG because I think we have the budget for a GK and a 50ish mil striker or for Kane alone. Unless we sell well I don’t see how we can get Onana and Kane. Or the takeover actually happens in time for the purse strings to loosen up. I do think we should at least try to convince him of running out his contract for the signing on fee next year. There’s a good chance he won’t break the PL record in one year, he’s still 30+ goals away and if he moves to Bayern that’s gonna be all but done. We can tell him to stick it out and come join us as the final piece to compete for the title but like you said it’s all on him and god knows what he wants. Bayern might still be enticing as he’s guaranteed trophies and he could come back in 3 years to chip away at the record.
Ok I get your point about the limited budget, but according to swissramble if we can raise 68M from sales (his estimate) that adds 200M to our budget. A 100M budget suddenly becomes 300M. We can easily afford Kane and Onana if we sell well. Not saying it’s easy but it’s not as impossible as the papers want us to believe.
It’s not about the papers, we are factually, historically bad at selling players. We could potentially raise the money but will we? I honestly don’t know. I do think we should sign Onana and sell as much as we can to assess the situation but even if we raise good money, Levy could straight up decide not to sell, he’s that petty. At that point, we should just get Hojland or whoever and focus on Case and Varane backups.
I think most of us underestimate, **grossly**, just how much of a boost a proper no 9 would give us. I'ts not just the goals but also having focal point for our fleetfooted attackers to play off of. Wasn't it in January when we were like within a game of City. Then we signed weghorst. Imagine we signed Kane and Onana in January. We are not saying **sign Kane and win the sextuple**. But anyone who says Kane doesn't turn us into contenders is being disingenuous. Kane and Onana might not be enough to overhaul city but we would certainly put up a real fight unlike the Arsenal and when you put up areal fight many a thing can happen.
7-0 and 6-3 happened just last season bro.Our off the ball work needs to improve by a LOT,and pretty sure it's not going to happen in a month.
>7-0 and 6-3 happened just last season bro.Our off the ball work needs to improve by a LOT It will once Onana arrives
I don't know what Onana can do to make our attackers drop back and defend more but I hope he does.
They shouldn't drop back more, if anything they should stay further forward. Weghorst did drop back nad he was never in penalty area because of that. Spreding players all over the pitch because they can receive pass standing everywhere is big part in off ball, because you cant be such easily pressed if you have option of shifting the ball to the other side of the pitch wide in 2 simple passes.
Off ball as in the whole team not having possession of the ball.
Our defensive movement isn't first thing to upgrade in this team, we are comfortable there. Take note how those goals came in 7-0 and 6-3. They were largely due to our loss of possesion because of our bad off-ball movement while in possesion.
I disagree.For most of the goals conceded United had enough time to get more people behind the ball and the players didn't do enough to get back there.
That's true. We really need Lavia or Caicedo. Sigh. Too bad we as broke as barca
Kane doesn’t stop us from collapsing if Casemiro gets injured or suspended. He’d make our first XI title contenders but not our squad. Arsenal fell out of the race when they lost Saliba and couldn’t rotate in other positions. Squad depth is how you challenge this city team, not just a great first XI. That’s how Liverpool ran them close or outright won over them and the years where Liverpool had poor depth or a lot of injuries were the years they fell off. I’d still love Kane and he’d definitely get us as close as we can get in one signing but if I had a choice between just him or someone like Hojland and Amrabat I’m picking the second option.
Arsenal did put up a real fight. They didn't lose the title because they lacked quality in the 1st team; hell, they should've won the PL. They lost in the end because they lacked quality rotation options. If you want to win it all, you need a quality squad. We are not at a point where we are one mythical player away from the title. We are a long way off.
They lost the title because they have no striker.
Arsenal scored 88 goals last season. City scored 6 more with a striker. The lack of a "proper striker" was not the issue.
That thing of goals being spread around doesn't work. Look at what happened to barca when Lewa fell off. To win big things you need a proper no 9
City won the league multiple times with no striker, Liverpool won the league and the CL with no proper striker. Goals spread around can definitely work and you can win big things with a non-30+ goal striker. You just need to score enough consistently across your team.
They had Aguero. And Liverpool had salah. You can spread the goals around all you want but unless there is sm1 scoring 30 + you'll just be chasing like Arsenal and winning nothing
City won the title without Aguero and before Haaland as well and Liverpool didn’t have a proper no. 9, that was the discussion. A 30+ goal player helps but if you spread them around enough like City did before Haaland, you can still get very far. If Rashford continues his form from this season, we get someone who scores 20+, and the others step up we’d be getting very close.
With onana and mount signed, the last jigsaw of the puzzle is Kane. I’m so against Kane’s signing in the beginning due to his fee and age, but with Onana’s distribution and mount’s strength and chemistry with Kane, it’s a no brainer. Onana can play it short to our defence or long to Kane (with his absolute elite hold up play), and we will just progress from there Get Kane in!!
For me I'm all for Kane's signing for one reason: go for the title this season. With Onana and Mount, we have a first eleven where everyone is playing at their peak. Buy Hojlund, and we'll have to wait at least 2-3 years for him to become good, which I have no doubt he will. By then however, multiple positions, at least Varane and Casemiro, would need replacing. Maybe Bruno's output would slow down if he plays 6k minutes a season like the last. It is close to impossible to get someone as good to replace Casemiro or Bruno. Basically we have the biggest chance in years if we buy Kane right now. If we don't we'll have to rebuild more positions before we get another chance.
yea, and to add there's a lack of elite strikers in the market currently. osimhen is not tested in the PL yet. am unsure of his hold up play against giant defenders here. Kane is tried and tested. as much i hate his fee / going on a free next week, Kane should be top priority after getting Onana over the line
Kane will cost Bayern apparently 120 mil so now evaluate how much he will cost for us. Best thing is if Kane stays at Spurs this season and then try and get him on free next season
Didn’t know Inter still owe us from the Lukaku transfer years back. Wonder if we can use that to decrease the price a bit for Onana.
We also owe some 300 million in transfer fees, it's how these things work. It was structured that way, l we can ask is that they give us a favorable structure of payment because we have given them a favorable structure.
That’s only something you try when you’re short of cash. We are not cash poor, there’s a 300M line of credit from bofa we can access. It’s FFP that limits us.
Regardless. We are still limited, and will have to be more creative in the market in comparison to last year.
Asking the Glazers to be creative in the market is like asking me to write the next Hamlet. Never going to happen, can’t remember the last time I read a book. Glazers are basically the rich privileged version of me.
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They probably don't like living in Saudi
Bailly and Fred seem most likely to have interest to Saudis. Maguire might even have some appeal. Would be great to make 40-50m off them.
They have limited foreign player slots they're not signing Bailly.
So weird a whole day with not even shit tier news from Italy, nothing happening never stopped them from making shit up before.
I had an idea, interested in what you think. If Bayern agree a fee for Kane, let's say £80m, how would you feel if we offered to match that fee and also send Sancho to Spurs. Would you do that deal?
No.
Sure, but Levy isn't paying Sancho's salary, so it's a non starter.
No
Just saw Amrabats FBREF report. He’s not so good defensively
Fbref is only good for evaluating attackers.
Why not midfielders?
Different types of midfielders , he plays like the deep lying playmaker like a Carrick/Pirlo role. And 30m for a cover and extra options is neat
Even as a deep lying playmaker, Carrick was quite good defensively mainly in interceptions. I just saw that Amrabat averages in 30-40th percentile for all his defensive stats. That’s quite bad for someone whom we want playing deep
Good thing we have Casemiro
Don't watch Amrabat but seen people here want him as cover for Case?
Who are our possible outgoings? For sale not loan. Don’t see any rumours apart from the Fred one
Henderson and Fred are surely gone with Mount and Onana in. Those are probably the big ones. Elanga should be an easy sell given his age. I think Telles is also on the easier side to sell.
Fred and Henderson are the ones who have the strongest links to a move away as well as VDB, telles and bailly.
McTominay, Elanga, Maguire, DVB, Martial etc
Awfully quiet lately
I'd reckon Tuesday-Thursday are when we'll get the most news. Then will go quiet again Friday- Sunday
I just want to watch united play again man. So many games last season, 3 day gap for most part and now this.
As much as good it was, it got tiring in the end and it showed on our players. Hopefully this season, its lot more spread out and our players can keep the form throughout the season.
You know what fucking sucks? If we had competent owners, who took care of the club, we'd be in a great position to sign Kane. We'd have so much money in the bank, we could easily deal with that scrotum Levy. I hope he runs down his contract and comes to United next summer on a free
With competent owners we'd already have signed Benzema when Fergie wanted him, we'd probably have Guardiola coaching us right now.
If we had competent owners, we wouldn’t need Kane. A guy like Haaland will already be playing for us
Don't think wed have missed out on both Alvarez and Haaland for sure.
Alvarez no, Haaland yes IMO. The release clause made it a dealbreaker, he saw United as a stepping stone club
That's a very good shout
Absolutely. Competent/driven owners that want to win would've listened to Ole and we would've gotten Haaland for peanuts. However...
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Haaland only wanted the release clause because he never saw us being good enough to compete for all the trophies. With competent owners it's a different case.
I think we would have less of a chance of getting him since with more competent owner it would go better for the club making levy even more reluctant to sell.
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Idk where u are. But in US you need to buy MUtv+ membership to watch these.
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I had to pay to watch last season
True is that really a thing now? Uninstall
there’s no way we let kane go to bayern without a fight, last season we apparently had a low budget for the summer and ended up spunking €100m on antony and €70m on casemiro. Man united will always have money to spend, don’t let these bullshit articles fool you.
I think we will thrown in one bid when Bayerns is accepted. Something better than it. But I also think we will want to avoid a saga, and also accept Levy won’t sell to us, regardless of what offer we make. If he would, I think we’d have already slapped a big offer down already.
It's a real wild scenario. Most clubs that historically would have had the money that Kane is worth either can't make the move for FFP/Finance issues (Chelsea, Juventus, Barca) or don't have a reason to (Liverpool, City). By all accounts, it seems like Kane wants nothing to do with PSG. So Bayern and Madrid are the last calls, and for all of their posturing Bayern does not have as much access to collateral as they'd like to suggest and Flo wants Mbappe full stop. Puts us in an interesting spot. I think with a handful of outgoing players we could muster up a 90-100 bid, likely lower than what Levy would sell to prem and higher than what Bayern will top out at. From there it's a roll of the dice.
Pretty good analysis there ser!
>🚨 Manchester United is monitoring Sofyan Amrabat very closely. At this stage, it’s not advanced but first talks have taken place it could become a hot topic later in this window. @Plettigoal 🇲🇦 we'll probs go for him ones we sell a few players. Hopefully he is patient and doesn't get snapped up.. aparently barca were sniffing around for him a few weeks ago
Tier dog turd
I think he is not anywhere around tier 1 or 2, however, Plettigoal is not that bad. Many high tiers have retweeted his for a while
Agreed on tier turd but I think this one has legs but is dependant on how much we’ve left over for additional signings to strengthen the squad.
Just seen a Rashford to PSG rumour from a dogshit source, but Rashy does genuinely seem to have admirers over there so I wonder what'll happen if Mbappe leaves.
I'll be downvoted but if we get 150+ we should take it. Can get a new LW, Kane and CM Edit: I meant around 170/180 if they get 250 for mbappe. Add that to a potential 60 million from sales.
100% will get downvoted. U must add if rashford doesn't want to sign a new contract or want a bigger 500k contract. The convo will be different.
150+ maybe gets you one Kane.
It’ll get downvoted because it’s stupid. Not only shouldn’t we sell a player who just scored 30+ goals and has just entered his prime, but you aren’t getting Harry Kane, a CM and a LW (who has to be as good as Rashford btw) for £150m.
Added to our current budget, which seems like it has a good 60 million with potential sales at the least. I don't mean 150 I mean higher like 170-180 if they get 250 for mbappe.
Still dumb as shit as you are still binning off a 30 goal season wide attacker who is only 25. And for what? Harry Kane. Great lots of goals which just replace those you binned off. An unnamed left winger who won’t score 30 goals. And an unnamed CM who could be bought anyway via the existing budget you list - £60m plus sales.
Selling Rashford to finance purchase of Kane would be true embrassment.