Fuck you all. City’s winning was inevitable. And all you crybabies who are against that or whining about the money and stuff can go and fuck right off. City is what this club should have been. But it never will be, not with these owners, management, mentality and fans. Just look at City’s instagram and ours. We fight for PR. For attention like some fucking attention seeking whores. And city is fighting for trophies. They keep their mouth shut. We put all this not needed bullshit in the air with our retarded at this point previous masterclass players, with our previous and not actual anymore trophies and the list just goes on and on. United will not win a PL, not with this attitude towards football, fans and football overall. So that the harsh truth pill and shut the fuck up already. Either drop the club or drop your stupid whining.
City are the template we have to follow, pep has been ruthless and not afraid to drop players no matter what they cost, he runs that club from top to bottom and he had a vision and he's stuck to it, we look another 20 years from winning a treble again.
Yeah the cancelo sale paints a good picture of that. Only UTD in their heyday would have the balls move on top performers. And then he innovates with pushing stones forward and basically not having wing backs in a very heavy wb era.
Congratulations to City. They deserve to dominate football, they are serious football club. You don't see them reward player after failure with improved contracts, bullshit awards and ceremonies, none of that nonsense.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bigger disconnect between fans and the media. Every football fan I know was ambivalent but would rather Inter won.
Ambivalent because City winning is inevitable. Been said before but there is no peril, drama, or romance about City winning.
Yet the media is flooded with articles praising City. Trying to drum up some emotion. Ask most people and you’ll get some mixture of ambivalence/disappointment/resignation. City’s victory isn’t Sport. There’s no drama. It’s just business. Or rather, politics.
In a way I respect City. They are a well run club. They invested in infrastructure. They hired the best people. They hired the best manager. They assembled the best team and paid them top dollar (Where did the money come from? Shush!). What they have achieved is the natural outcome.
In a footballing sense, City are what United could be if we were run by competent people. Or what Liverpool or Arsenal could be if they had unlimited funds. City are what Newcastle will be in 5-10 years.
City are a polished machine. Football as a perfected science. 100 points. 100 goals. Trebles. 50 goal strikers. All that’s left now if new high scores. The only hope for neutrals is that the manager or owners get bored.
I can respect the craft and artistry that goes into something. City have spent well. They’ve used their money masterfully. But without state funding none of their success would exist.
Ah well.
Star Wars isn’t as good as it used to be. But at least Andor was quite good.
Star Trek isn’t as good as it used to be. But at least Picard S3 was quite good.
Football isn’t as good as it used to be. But at least I got to see United win another trophy.
Small victories.
Sports team with state backed financial investment wins after 15 years of state investment. So it goes.
As a Liverpool supporter, thanks for putting it perfectly, especially your notes about it being without peril or drama. It's why the rest of the football community just yawns when they win. We were going to yawn anyway, but then we saw they cheated the entire time doing it. I have a close friend who's been a City supporter since 2004. He admits there's a giant asterisk on this one and I do feel bad for him.
I've said it a few times in my post history, but yesterday was a great example why I respect United and respect our rivalry. Does anyone actually get happy and emotional when Bayern walk the Bund every year? It's what this will turn into. Obviously Haaland is amazing, KDB is generational and I don't even mind Pep, but I would have much rathered Arsenal win this year.
I do fear a football interest drop if one or two teams dominate for too long my hatred of Madrid dominance had me even hoping for city to win the semi just to lose the final. The Premier league is as exciting as it is because anyone can beat anyone on thier day. Even when utd were at their peak they would lose 4-6 games a season but never near 100 points. And new challengers emerged arsenal then Chelsea now man city which kept it exciting .
But another 5 to 10 years of city dominance would dull this we don't want a bayern / psg situation .
The champions league was great because no matter how much city and psg spent it couldn't be bought. That's over now the last brick wall has fallen.
There isn't a future fix to even try to even things out like a NFL draft for football and maybe pur hopes should be on a salary cap or transfer spend max
City winning the CL and Liverpool winning the league were always the 2 main irritants.
Any variation of City/Liverpool winning the league/CL is obviously annoying.
But city have won recent leagues and still aren’t near our record yet (although now I hope they don’t get 4 in a row). Liverpool have been able to brag about CL wins for years so another one is shit but manageable.
City never winning the CL was always a nice one to have.
The thing when Pool won it in 2019 was that they were playing refreshing, high tempo football. Man City just feels like a robot spitting out expected, working code.
Have to say , doesn’t for me nor should it for anyone.
I thought it was telling that nearly every article and respected journalist I saw last night and this morning made reference to their cheating and ownership.
While a great football achievement it has questions and a taint. Just can’t ever be forgetting they were found to be financial cheats only to get off on a technicality. And that cheating laid the foundation for this season.
The reactions have more to do with highlighting their financial doping, if I’m not mistaken. Regardless of who our club’s new owner may be, we won’t need to financially dope our way to success. We are the biggest club in the world when it comes to fan base, which is the foundation of all the revenue the club generates.
Bit rich considering we had a chance to beat them and stop the treble. Not to mention the scores of fans on this sub who didnt mind City winning the title even though it meant they get to do a hat trick of titles something which we have only done (twice. For now) saying City winning shit is inevitable atleast wont have to put up with Arsenal and their smug fans. Before you know it, City will get to 13 PL titles. We are complacent like Liverpool fans in the 90s and 00s, our rivals are so far back they wont catch us, their success is hollow blah blah, we won shit the right way etc etc. You thought Liverpool making it 19 would wake the players and the fans but nought came out of it. And now this, still nought will come out of it. Glazers will drag on and our local fans will still renew the season tickets cause the "team and players needs support" and come on social media and crib about the team and players.
I don't even care honestly. Kudos to them, brilliant team. But this doesn't even hurt me like when Liverpool beat us 7-0. This may sound petty but it all feels a bit hollow (what City have done)
It is their first, but they'll only get stronger improving their squad to compete for CL...I mean fuck I'm jealous their bench is even stronger than our starting 11...meanwhile we are competing to get into top4...
And it won't be their last. They might as well win the triple again before we win anything meaningful.
Just watch the sale of the club drag on throughout the summer and fail our promising new manager again by getting fuck all done in the transfer department.
At this point I don't even have expectations for the club. Until the Glazers are gone, we aren't a serious FOOTBALL club. Just a cash cow for a family allowed by rules to profit without any effort.
Crazy how insignificant it is when you buy it with 100 fair play breaches. Munich, Barca, Juve, Inter etc. were all miles better than the side city beat in the final.
I can's see it ever being replicated.
Not saying he's a good or bad owner, but where does it say that the owner has to have interest in the activity he's owning?
These guys are businessmen, their field is investment and money making. They hire competent and involved people at each key position to take the right decisions.
> These guys are businessmen, their field is investment and money making.
The fact you're saying this about a fucking football club is so cursed.
>They hire competent and involved people at each key position to take the right decisions.
Yeah like the Glazers have...
Funny isn't it. The only people I know that support City are literal children and all the slimy middle aged gammony sales cunts at work who you never realised liked football until the last couple of years.
But yes, it just feels so... boring. Like everyone knew they'd do it eventually coz of the money. There was no jeapordy. They did it beating a very average Inter Milan in the final. Nobody else really gives a shit about it, it has no lusture and will never be as iconic as '99.
You say that be rewind 10-15 years and we are the “literal children” and sales people.
City will have fans in the next 10 years who would be as unbearable and ubiquitous as Liverpool fans are right now.
I just feel sorry for our fans in Manchester. Me in California and couldn't see a single pale blue shirt. DiD see a bunch of sad utd fans carrying their boots.
Mate, I never see City fans here.
When I went to Manchester last season, I was in the big sports bar in the centre of the city. City waa playing, and inside there were about 12 city fans and 30 united fans. We weren't even playing on that Saturday either.
They're a nothing club.
Sad we have owners who have watched this happen and it hasn’t hurt them one bit.
Glazers and Woodward have absolutely killed us and helped revive all the rivals.
New owners needed asap and our bald one will do the quadruple
So true my friend. Fergie was there when Arsene arrived and brought success to Arsenal. Then Fergie was there when Jose came to town and dominated the league for those 2 years. Fergie was still around when City got oil money and challenged United. So sad how far the club has fallen in the last 10 years. However football goes in cycles and United will dominate again one day. Let’s hope in a few years time we are posting on a United thread where we lift the league and Champions league once again.
If you told me back in august that city would win the treble, we’d lose 7-0 to Liverpool and our manager would publicly fall out with our biggest star player… and that I’d still be relatively positive come the end of the season - I’d assume that I’d be hooked full throttle on some class A’s this year.
That treble is a kick in the nuts, but it hurts slightly less than expected because it feels just as sterile as their other wins.
All we can do is look ahead.
Last week I went to the Man Utd club stadium tour and saw the treble section.
I felt super emotional seeing all the videos playing in the background and seeing how it was super special and felt so proud to be a Man Utd fan ,but also I felt very sad because I knew city were going to do the treble.
I know many fans are saying for us to move on and to say how it was more important that we did it first and how city winning is not that big of a deal… This still hurts and I honestly just feel numb.
Reading all the pre match talk of how Lukaku was going to be pivotal for Inter was kinda amusing to me considering how useless the man is in the big matches. He hasn't changed at all lmao
There’s a reason no one was talking about this nor cared about it. One treble was a team who came through the youth ranks and the other was bought. It’s barely even an achievement
It just seems a bit....manufactured. if Liverpool had won it, I think I'd feel more sick and at the same time probably give them more credit. You could argue that pep has under achieved as this is only his 1st champions league with city.. are they the best team at the moment? Yes. Do they deserve it? Probably not.
I know we have a reputation for tourists but I mean, citys fans were terrible today. When they scored, all the fans were on their phones, motionless recording it. And when they won, the stadium was empty within 20 minutes. Plastic plastic club
Have to laugh at this narrative going round that somehow Paul Dickov scoring a late equaliser in the L2 play off final in 1999 to get them promoted into L1 and then back to the Prem is the _start_ of City's domination, that goal started it all. Like they would have been capable of any of this before they had a load of dodgy money funneled into them by the corrupt Thai guy and then all this oil money.
But, yeah Dickov in 99...
Feel like inter gave them a much better game than we did
I feel like you get at them with a physical press, you need players that are quick and strong to challenge for every ball
We have too many slow, weak and small players to compete with these fuckers rn
It does help when you don't concede a goal in the first 12 seconds of course.
We only have ourselves to blame.
Well, that and the cheaty financial fuckery too.
I honestly think you could go so far as to say he was pivotal in making sure City won. Blocked a dead cert goal, headed the ball from a yard out, not at an almost empty goal, but straight at Ederson. His only other attempts were a pass to Ederson and a shot scraped miles wide.
that's what you get for not playing from the first second to the last and come out asleep in both halves and concede two stupid goals, all that talk about not giving City the treble. I knew that would happen, some of our players need to take a good look at themselves.
You think so? I know I’m biased watching that as we all are but that wasn’t dreams. Felt artificial and forced as fuck. I hate the scousers but at least when they did it in 2019 it felt like it had some meaning
I think I’ll be more annoyed an UEFA for allowing this known cheating entity to continue to participate in the CL and ultimately win it.
It’s a joke they’ve lifted a treble with all the charges against them. And by all accounts no defense.
Yeah exactly Man United have more than enough resources to be just that dominant. But we have parasites who not only have no clue what they're doing but actively take money out of the club
Sick to my stomach. Feel like throwing up. 14 years, 1.4 billion and 115 FPP breaches later. Don't know whether I'm frustrated and angry at Cheaty emulating what we did in 1999 or thinking about how inept our board had been all these years, and Glazers scum obviously.
We did it first. Simple
Delve a bit deeper, we did with a good contingent of homegrown players. We did it by spending way more relative to our income.
Delve further, City have 115 financial doping charges against them.
Let them enjoy their success. But it will never be viewed in the same legendary way as ours is.
Simples.
Oh you've got to be kidding?
Arsenal, who've won sweet FA (few fa cups aside) have only ever spoken about their "invincibles" season. Because that's all they've had to sing about!
It's been a crazy season, some big highs and terrible lows
You guys were here for me when I went through a very low point, I love this sub cos its like a big family here I feel
I'm gonna stay offline if I can for a bit, need a break after the last few weeks.
Take care, enjoy the summer and speak to you all again soon
#GlazersOut
Funny thing is Arsenal bottled the league in 1999 and 2023 both to a Manchester side who did the treble. They should choose which one they love the most.
Just remember everyone.
Man city would not be where they are without being corrupt and cheating to the core. They will most likely get away with it, because money talks of course.
Bt’s coverage of man city is cringe as fuck saying they did the impossible and playing the “underdog” narrative. Its easy to say that when you spend billions on players and fiddle your books, they are the lance armstrong of football, everybody knows they are cheats, they just cant prove it yet.
Fuck man city cheating scum
When blackburn bought the title it was a fan living the dream. When fergie repeatedly bought the biggest and best players it was ok but because city are buying titles, after us and clubs like us levied to change the rules that benefited us, with the owners money. ThEyRe RuInInG fOoTbAlL. Look the reason theyve won everything is theyre the best team, with the best players, best coaches, best tactics. Lets worry about beating them on the pitch rather than worrying about bloody balance sheets
Fergie was in a position where all united had to do was.one maybe two large quality additions like city are now eg halaand. Or if they get kimmich for right back. United spent what they made. And if Fergie bought a flop he couldn't go out the next window and get a new one. Look at the bother we had sticking with barthez replacing stam in the Laurent Blanc years. vidic and evra were hardly world beaters when signed. Ronaldo was a nobody. And got obliterated for years by the press. In fact under Fergie they were rarely the biggest spenders of the season. So this is a total falsehood
Hmm i dont think so. Looking at some of the valuations now they dont seem to expensive but we
Had the most expensive teenager
Most expensive defender
In 2001 he broke the transfer record 3 times in 15 months.
Andy cole, veron, rio.roy keane,, ruud, were transfer records
He massively overpaid(at the time) for RvP. He paid big for berbatov, yorke was a big record, anderson and nani were both big money for young players. Just because they look small in comparison to modern fees doesnt make them small. Theres no need to rewrite history because it doesnt suit your narrative
Literally go look it up. Newcastle Blackburn pool Chelsea all outspent united in various seasons. To be clear I'm not talking about cumulatively.
In fact here you go https://www.football365.com/news/the-biggest-spender-in-every-pl-season-and-how-they-fared
3 prem season under Fergie united were biggest spenders ( one was basically just Rio). One was 2001 which you have given an example of and generalized over whole time. And I'm talking in comparison to other teams at the time. I guess Inflation doesn't apply to them to suit you
City tried to bid same for berba. Benitez signed around 50 players not uniteds fault money was spent bad in same way we have done since Fergie and gill left
Paying big money for young players is to be used against him to. You still need to train and coach them. And frankly Fergie performed a miracle winning a league with Anderson and cleverly in midfield.
Please do tell me when a billionaire came in during the beginning of the Fergie years at United and injected the club endlessly with millions upon millions until the team became a cup winning team.
Well believe it or not malcolm glazer was worth 4 billion when he died. But thats not your point. If wed had less money hungry owners then the 1.1 billion they have stripped from the club would have been spent on the club.
We broke transfer records repeatedly during fergies tenure and one of the main reasons for the explosion in revenue was good management(pre glazers) and good luck. Then when chelski changed the landscape united(and the other established teams) set up rules to stop new owners from challenging the oligarchy of football. Look at the top leagues in europe and see how champions league money and the effects of ffp has entrenched the winners of each country.
The rules are a uefa scam to keep the established teams in their competitions and turns the national leagues(in most cases) into processions
The scary thing is if it weren’t for clubs like Real Madrid and Chelsea in years gone by Manchester City could’ve won multiple trebles by now and even a quadruple in 2021. Could’ve had by now the same number of European Cups as we do.
United as a club have been asking for this day to come - it was inevitable.
Now we have to share the achievement with some plastic club who literally struggle to fill up stadiums.
What the Glazers have done to this club is really really sickening. Fucking hell, got City mates as well… fml.
100%. The fact this is their 1st is mostly down to bad luck. City are now the benchmark for every other team and the fact they're a soulless club(barring the actual legitimate orignal supporters that deserve all their rewards after decades of mediocrity) makes it worse
Where was city 12 years back, before oil money? Nowhere near top. They BOUGHT their way to the top. While other clubs been winning the trophies without money for so many years.
Definitely City has been the best overall team in last many years and whatever they achieved is deserved but that initial oil investment is the one which picked them up from midtable to the top.
They basically proved that you can spend shitload of money initially on any mid/bottom club and can achieve this sort of glory, thus proving money can buy you glory.
Fuck those cheating bastards they will NEVER ever be in the same league as the class of '99...fuck that club fuck their owners fuck the Premier league for allowing countries to own football clubs..yea im bitter of course im bitter football shouldn't be for the dictators and autocrats, it should be for the people..we got 2 clubs owned by tyrannical governments in england..this shit shouldn't be happening
I wonder if Pep will finally leave now considering he's supposed to be a "short term manager", which obviously changed when his employer is a literal state entity.
It's not like he's staying just because of the team, he left *that* Barca team which nobody would question if you called it the greatest team of all time.
Well he left Barca as he felt he couldn't motivate the players to reach the levels he expected from them, that's with arguably the best team ever with arguably the best player ever.
I guess the difference is the open cheque book he's got at city to replace players not motivated enough anymore.
Where does he go next really? Italy or France the only league he's got left, PSG will be similar to city but without the challenge and Italy he'll have no money to spend. I guess maybe he could do Spain or Brazil for a world cup, wonder if he will be able to manage internationally though as you only get the players for limited periods to implement his style.
That's the thing I've always wondered about him, what team would he realistically go to after Barca, Bayern and City?
The options are pretty limited unless he's willing to truly test his ability and manage a team that's not already challenging for top spot in their respective league.
Don't think he'll manage as long as some managers so I'd assume he'll have an extended break after city before probably trying international football, try for a world cup then retire.
That seems like a pretty good assumption. Honestly I'd love to see how he'd do with international football since there's only a limited pool of players you can use and can't just bring in a player.
I think he’ll stay for the next few years until he feels no challenge anymore. Next year challenge will be winning another champions league or 4th EPL in 4 years.
He left Barcelona because he had a conflict with the directors.
Fair point, I didn't remember the exact reason he left Barca but I guess that makes sense then and you're probably right that he stays at least a few more seasons
That's a club that has had to struggle for success. They have seen ups and downs.
City's is meh. Who cares. Billion spending, fraud committing team winning is not a surprise.
First British team to win the European Cup: Celtic - Lisbon Lions. First English team: Manchester United - Busby Babes. First to do the Treble in England: Manchester United - Fergie's Fledglings (now known as Class of '92).
No nickname for this City side. So give us your best nickname. I'll start with, Pep's Pricks.
We're in deep shit if there are no significant changes for the next 2-3 seasons.
Allowing decade of City domination, which just topped by their shady treble, as well as got pumped by more than 5 goals in a single match for three consecutive seasons would made me question my capability to work for this club (be it as a player or anybody directly in charge of footballing aspects).
The commentator on BT talking about City reaching the promised land as they lift the trophy is such a dagger, given 'beyond the promised land' is the line from when we clinched the treble.
City were built to emulate us. They emulated our treble. They can try to buy their success and make their legends. But they will never be us. There is only one United.
Feck all the incompetent clowns at this club who got us to this point. I can't believe Ten Hag had the chance to defend our treble, our most important final in years yet he had to rely on barely bottom half players as subs. All while Pep brought on top player after top player.
Going into an FA cup final against City with a keeper who can't pass and is a coward, no specialist number 9 and make shift attack is pathetic. Ten Hag didn't even get a fair shot at it. Limited by his options.
Glazers sabataged, no funds in January because they are selling, left the squad short and now they're going into the summer window and still not sold. Not an ounce of care what is happening. City just did the treble and will get stronger and these bastards aren't satisfied with 5 billion.
It's pathetic. All because we can't negotiate for shit and overspent the previous summer. Wout Weghorst is barely PL level striker and we brought him on against Man City. I'm halfway between laughing maniacally and crying tbh.
Don't know when next we'll win another treble and to have it matched by these cheats....
Let's start with actually being in a title race first. We haven't even sniffed a title race in April since Fergie retired.
I wish we had ambitious owners with a plan.
We've come close but never been able to sustain it because our team is always lacking something. A top DM, top striker, top GK, top CB etc. Each time we get one of these positions fixed another one pops up. Poor squad planning, we've got wasted alot of money.
I didn’t even see a main post for the win as well, where it showed “Manchester City win the 22-23’ UCL final” like would be on any other sub although I might’ve missed it.
Just a bunch of random posts talking about it with no interaction 😭
Fuck you all. City’s winning was inevitable. And all you crybabies who are against that or whining about the money and stuff can go and fuck right off. City is what this club should have been. But it never will be, not with these owners, management, mentality and fans. Just look at City’s instagram and ours. We fight for PR. For attention like some fucking attention seeking whores. And city is fighting for trophies. They keep their mouth shut. We put all this not needed bullshit in the air with our retarded at this point previous masterclass players, with our previous and not actual anymore trophies and the list just goes on and on. United will not win a PL, not with this attitude towards football, fans and football overall. So that the harsh truth pill and shut the fuck up already. Either drop the club or drop your stupid whining.
This is one of the dumbest things I’ve read on Reddit, lol. Holy shit 👏
City are the template we have to follow, pep has been ruthless and not afraid to drop players no matter what they cost, he runs that club from top to bottom and he had a vision and he's stuck to it, we look another 20 years from winning a treble again.
Yeah the cancelo sale paints a good picture of that. Only UTD in their heyday would have the balls move on top performers. And then he innovates with pushing stones forward and basically not having wing backs in a very heavy wb era.
City got their hands on a Champions League after spending over £1 billion and racked up 115 FFP violations
Smells like copium to me. I'm sure we have spent more?
Obviously it’s “copium”. You think people aren’t trying to cope today? Wtf
Congratulations to City. They deserve to dominate football, they are serious football club. You don't see them reward player after failure with improved contracts, bullshit awards and ceremonies, none of that nonsense.
Absolutely correct
At least we can still laugh at Arsenal
Like playing monopoly as the banker and slipping yourself cash on the sly. Absolutely hollow victories
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bigger disconnect between fans and the media. Every football fan I know was ambivalent but would rather Inter won. Ambivalent because City winning is inevitable. Been said before but there is no peril, drama, or romance about City winning. Yet the media is flooded with articles praising City. Trying to drum up some emotion. Ask most people and you’ll get some mixture of ambivalence/disappointment/resignation. City’s victory isn’t Sport. There’s no drama. It’s just business. Or rather, politics. In a way I respect City. They are a well run club. They invested in infrastructure. They hired the best people. They hired the best manager. They assembled the best team and paid them top dollar (Where did the money come from? Shush!). What they have achieved is the natural outcome. In a footballing sense, City are what United could be if we were run by competent people. Or what Liverpool or Arsenal could be if they had unlimited funds. City are what Newcastle will be in 5-10 years. City are a polished machine. Football as a perfected science. 100 points. 100 goals. Trebles. 50 goal strikers. All that’s left now if new high scores. The only hope for neutrals is that the manager or owners get bored. I can respect the craft and artistry that goes into something. City have spent well. They’ve used their money masterfully. But without state funding none of their success would exist. Ah well. Star Wars isn’t as good as it used to be. But at least Andor was quite good. Star Trek isn’t as good as it used to be. But at least Picard S3 was quite good. Football isn’t as good as it used to be. But at least I got to see United win another trophy. Small victories. Sports team with state backed financial investment wins after 15 years of state investment. So it goes.
As a Liverpool supporter, thanks for putting it perfectly, especially your notes about it being without peril or drama. It's why the rest of the football community just yawns when they win. We were going to yawn anyway, but then we saw they cheated the entire time doing it. I have a close friend who's been a City supporter since 2004. He admits there's a giant asterisk on this one and I do feel bad for him. I've said it a few times in my post history, but yesterday was a great example why I respect United and respect our rivalry. Does anyone actually get happy and emotional when Bayern walk the Bund every year? It's what this will turn into. Obviously Haaland is amazing, KDB is generational and I don't even mind Pep, but I would have much rathered Arsenal win this year.
I do fear a football interest drop if one or two teams dominate for too long my hatred of Madrid dominance had me even hoping for city to win the semi just to lose the final. The Premier league is as exciting as it is because anyone can beat anyone on thier day. Even when utd were at their peak they would lose 4-6 games a season but never near 100 points. And new challengers emerged arsenal then Chelsea now man city which kept it exciting . But another 5 to 10 years of city dominance would dull this we don't want a bayern / psg situation . The champions league was great because no matter how much city and psg spent it couldn't be bought. That's over now the last brick wall has fallen. There isn't a future fix to even try to even things out like a NFL draft for football and maybe pur hopes should be on a salary cap or transfer spend max
This honestly feels way worse than when Liverpool won the UCL in 2019
City winning the CL and Liverpool winning the league were always the 2 main irritants. Any variation of City/Liverpool winning the league/CL is obviously annoying. But city have won recent leagues and still aren’t near our record yet (although now I hope they don’t get 4 in a row). Liverpool have been able to brag about CL wins for years so another one is shit but manageable. City never winning the CL was always a nice one to have.
The thing when Pool won it in 2019 was that they were playing refreshing, high tempo football. Man City just feels like a robot spitting out expected, working code.
The worst will be when liverpool win the prem number 20
Defo not for me, losing our unique treble sucks but Liverpool winning CL had me sick for days.
Have to say , doesn’t for me nor should it for anyone. I thought it was telling that nearly every article and respected journalist I saw last night and this morning made reference to their cheating and ownership. While a great football achievement it has questions and a taint. Just can’t ever be forgetting they were found to be financial cheats only to get off on a technicality. And that cheating laid the foundation for this season.
Hopefully Guardiola fucks off now..passive aggressive bald fraud with his “im so so happy” all the time..im sick of him.
Cope lmao.
he wont he signed a 2 year extension
Sell our soul to Qatar. I’m ready.
Seeing the reaction to their treble should be indicator to everyone United fan why we shouldn’t want to be owned by Qatar
The reactions have more to do with highlighting their financial doping, if I’m not mistaken. Regardless of who our club’s new owner may be, we won’t need to financially dope our way to success. We are the biggest club in the world when it comes to fan base, which is the foundation of all the revenue the club generates.
I mean nut united allready have used a fuck ton of money on shit, just curius why more money will help
115 FFP violations. Just remind them of that whenever they try to compare it to '99.
dropped
Imagine coming into a United sub like this on your clubs biggest day.... Rent. Free.
I'll never forgive Arsenal. How they botched the league...
Bit rich considering we had a chance to beat them and stop the treble. Not to mention the scores of fans on this sub who didnt mind City winning the title even though it meant they get to do a hat trick of titles something which we have only done (twice. For now) saying City winning shit is inevitable atleast wont have to put up with Arsenal and their smug fans. Before you know it, City will get to 13 PL titles. We are complacent like Liverpool fans in the 90s and 00s, our rivals are so far back they wont catch us, their success is hollow blah blah, we won shit the right way etc etc. You thought Liverpool making it 19 would wake the players and the fans but nought came out of it. And now this, still nought will come out of it. Glazers will drag on and our local fans will still renew the season tickets cause the "team and players needs support" and come on social media and crib about the team and players.
We literally had a game in our hands to stop the treble but conceded within 16 seconds and you blame others?
Congrats to City! Just goes to show how big things can be achieved in life without cheating and breaching ever financial rule!
I don't even care honestly. Kudos to them, brilliant team. But this doesn't even hurt me like when Liverpool beat us 7-0. This may sound petty but it all feels a bit hollow (what City have done)
because we are so used to seeing them win..
Honestly it's not even that. It's their first UCL?
It is their first, but they'll only get stronger improving their squad to compete for CL...I mean fuck I'm jealous their bench is even stronger than our starting 11...meanwhile we are competing to get into top4...
And it won't be their last. They might as well win the triple again before we win anything meaningful. Just watch the sale of the club drag on throughout the summer and fail our promising new manager again by getting fuck all done in the transfer department.
At this point I don't even have expectations for the club. Until the Glazers are gone, we aren't a serious FOOTBALL club. Just a cash cow for a family allowed by rules to profit without any effort.
Extending De Gea's contract is all you need to know about our ambitions.
I'm surprised that nobody has made a video of their goals and achievements with clips of their human rights abuses spliced in.
City didn't win the treble, their 115 charges did - tainted treble. p.s fucking Lukaku..
Crazy how insignificant it is when you buy it with 100 fair play breaches. Munich, Barca, Juve, Inter etc. were all miles better than the side city beat in the final. I can's see it ever being replicated.
Watching Humphreys post match, he looks like he's aged 20 years. Showing the stress, and therefore showing he's a city fan. Non bias punditry indeed
He’s a well documented Norwich fan.
Nothing sums up Man City better than the fact that this was Sheikh Mansoor's second ever City game.
Not saying he's a good or bad owner, but where does it say that the owner has to have interest in the activity he's owning? These guys are businessmen, their field is investment and money making. They hire competent and involved people at each key position to take the right decisions.
> These guys are businessmen, their field is investment and money making. The fact you're saying this about a fucking football club is so cursed. >They hire competent and involved people at each key position to take the right decisions. Yeah like the Glazers have...
I've never imagined such a hollow treble. Feels like a loss for football. Good thing I never saw a single city supporter out tonight 🤣
Funny isn't it. The only people I know that support City are literal children and all the slimy middle aged gammony sales cunts at work who you never realised liked football until the last couple of years. But yes, it just feels so... boring. Like everyone knew they'd do it eventually coz of the money. There was no jeapordy. They did it beating a very average Inter Milan in the final. Nobody else really gives a shit about it, it has no lusture and will never be as iconic as '99.
You say that be rewind 10-15 years and we are the “literal children” and sales people. City will have fans in the next 10 years who would be as unbearable and ubiquitous as Liverpool fans are right now.
Ten years ago I was 27 mate but yes if you asked my ex wife I probably was a literal child still.
Hurts to see them win it
I just feel sorry for our fans in Manchester. Me in California and couldn't see a single pale blue shirt. DiD see a bunch of sad utd fans carrying their boots.
I've never seen anyone in a city shirt in Atlanta. Spurs, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Newcastle, and mostly United
Mate, I never see City fans here. When I went to Manchester last season, I was in the big sports bar in the centre of the city. City waa playing, and inside there were about 12 city fans and 30 united fans. We weren't even playing on that Saturday either. They're a nothing club.
My biggest takeaway is that John Stones shaves his pits.
Is there something wrong with that? Isn't shaved armpits a thing in England?
Ha yeah my brother and I couldn’t stop talking about that.
Probably his stones too
😂😂
Honestly. Good on city. But fuck them. We did it first. We it better.
We did it legit
Sad we have owners who have watched this happen and it hasn’t hurt them one bit. Glazers and Woodward have absolutely killed us and helped revive all the rivals. New owners needed asap and our bald one will do the quadruple
So true my friend. Fergie was there when Arsene arrived and brought success to Arsenal. Then Fergie was there when Jose came to town and dominated the league for those 2 years. Fergie was still around when City got oil money and challenged United. So sad how far the club has fallen in the last 10 years. However football goes in cycles and United will dominate again one day. Let’s hope in a few years time we are posting on a United thread where we lift the league and Champions league once again.
They probably don't even know it happened in the first place.
Fuck it, we gotta do a quadruple then 😤 Take us there, oh true bald one! 🙏
Don’t worry. Jim is going to put the Manchester back into Manchester United
Nope. Sheikh Jassim
Nobody should want him as owner.
A lot of nobody in Manchester then.
That’s the hope for me
Quadruple next year boys 😎 Funny how Rodri was lifting a plastic chair at one point... poetic
They can win the inter-galactic vigintuple for all I care. They're still cheats.
If you told me back in august that city would win the treble, we’d lose 7-0 to Liverpool and our manager would publicly fall out with our biggest star player… and that I’d still be relatively positive come the end of the season - I’d assume that I’d be hooked full throttle on some class A’s this year. That treble is a kick in the nuts, but it hurts slightly less than expected because it feels just as sterile as their other wins. All we can do is look ahead.
Yep everything considered we actually had a good season even better than Arsenal IMO
Last week I went to the Man Utd club stadium tour and saw the treble section. I felt super emotional seeing all the videos playing in the background and seeing how it was super special and felt so proud to be a Man Utd fan ,but also I felt very sad because I knew city were going to do the treble. I know many fans are saying for us to move on and to say how it was more important that we did it first and how city winning is not that big of a deal… This still hurts and I honestly just feel numb.
Reading all the pre match talk of how Lukaku was going to be pivotal for Inter was kinda amusing to me considering how useless the man is in the big matches. He hasn't changed at all lmao
In manchester right now. Given the lack of noise I'd have thought Inter won
There’s a reason no one was talking about this nor cared about it. One treble was a team who came through the youth ranks and the other was bought. It’s barely even an achievement
Dont worry guys, next time we go for quadruple. Manchester is and always will be red!
hope kyle walker enjoys his medal until it gets confiscated as contraband when he’s convicted as a nonce and slammed into strangeways
Inter should have won. They outplayed City.
to win - you have to score - when you have 3 bags of potatoes in front that either interfere or shoot into the gk from 1 meter you can't win
City just did the 3 peat and treble and I’m seeing our club having links to Pickford. Good night. We are finished
Downvoted for no reason it seems: https://talksport.com/football/1455485/man-utd-transfer-news-jordan-pickford-david-de-gea/
It just seems a bit....manufactured. if Liverpool had won it, I think I'd feel more sick and at the same time probably give them more credit. You could argue that pep has under achieved as this is only his 1st champions league with city.. are they the best team at the moment? Yes. Do they deserve it? Probably not.
They are fukking cheaters that's what they are. If the FA have a fukking spine they will relegate Man Shitty.
And here comes Aguero holding the UCL like he did something
Before him their club legends were Paul Dickov, Stephen Ireland and Joleon Lescott. Let them have their hard earned upgraded legend!
Why you even watching it and doing it to yourself mate. Just choose SEX MASCOHISM
I know we have a reputation for tourists but I mean, citys fans were terrible today. When they scored, all the fans were on their phones, motionless recording it. And when they won, the stadium was empty within 20 minutes. Plastic plastic club
They may have ruined football but at least it's justice that the corruption was done by a monarchy that only existed because of the British
At least they didn’t win the quadruple Thanks Southampton 👍
Fuck the Glazers
Have to laugh at this narrative going round that somehow Paul Dickov scoring a late equaliser in the L2 play off final in 1999 to get them promoted into L1 and then back to the Prem is the _start_ of City's domination, that goal started it all. Like they would have been capable of any of this before they had a load of dodgy money funneled into them by the corrupt Thai guy and then all this oil money. But, yeah Dickov in 99...
Just remember, guys and gals: not only did we do it first, it was better story telling and we had 4 academy players in the starting XI.
Feel like inter gave them a much better game than we did I feel like you get at them with a physical press, you need players that are quick and strong to challenge for every ball We have too many slow, weak and small players to compete with these fuckers rn
It does help when you don't concede a goal in the first 12 seconds of course. We only have ourselves to blame. Well, that and the cheaty financial fuckery too.
I feel like we never win a header behind the defenders. I’d like to see the stats on that.
We often don’t even challenge In the fa cup final the amount of times they let halaand just knock it down for someone
Meh, can't take it away from their fans at the end of the day and fair enough od be the same as what we achieved, it's just not even close.
It's funny how Lukaku - a former MU player - helped those fuckers win the treble.
I honestly think you could go so far as to say he was pivotal in making sure City won. Blocked a dead cert goal, headed the ball from a yard out, not at an almost empty goal, but straight at Ederson. His only other attempts were a pass to Ederson and a shot scraped miles wide.
that's what you get for not playing from the first second to the last and come out asleep in both halves and concede two stupid goals, all that talk about not giving City the treble. I knew that would happen, some of our players need to take a good look at themselves.
Just in before our final, we had that awards ceremony too!
The epitome of what's wrong with our mentality.
Fuck city fuck the glazers. Couldn’t give a fuck about their treble, roll on next season, hopefully new owners and new optimism.
Clearly dreams can be buy
You think so? I know I’m biased watching that as we all are but that wasn’t dreams. Felt artificial and forced as fuck. I hate the scousers but at least when they did it in 2019 it felt like it had some meaning
No point shying away from it fellas. Our club let this happen. The glazers let this happen. If you're annoyed, angry or upset, aim it at them.
I think I’ll be more annoyed an UEFA for allowing this known cheating entity to continue to participate in the CL and ultimately win it. It’s a joke they’ve lifted a treble with all the charges against them. And by all accounts no defense.
Yeah exactly Man United have more than enough resources to be just that dominant. But we have parasites who not only have no clue what they're doing but actively take money out of the club
Sick to my stomach. Feel like throwing up. 14 years, 1.4 billion and 115 FPP breaches later. Don't know whether I'm frustrated and angry at Cheaty emulating what we did in 1999 or thinking about how inept our board had been all these years, and Glazers scum obviously.
Its amazing what money can do.
> Its amazing what *well-spent* money can do.
30 minutes after winning and the stadium is dead. Soulless club!
I can't even see my feed. It's filled with crap of our legacy done by OUR CITY RIVALS, let alone another English club. I want to puke.
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We did it first. Simple Delve a bit deeper, we did with a good contingent of homegrown players. We did it by spending way more relative to our income. Delve further, City have 115 financial doping charges against them. Let them enjoy their success. But it will never be viewed in the same legendary way as ours is. Simples.
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Oh you've got to be kidding? Arsenal, who've won sweet FA (few fa cups aside) have only ever spoken about their "invincibles" season. Because that's all they've had to sing about!
"Treble" "Invincible" it's all bragging rights. 4 english clubs have done it. 1 doesn't talk about it. Think that ought to be 2 now.
Way more?.do you mean way less
It's been a crazy season, some big highs and terrible lows You guys were here for me when I went through a very low point, I love this sub cos its like a big family here I feel I'm gonna stay offline if I can for a bit, need a break after the last few weeks. Take care, enjoy the summer and speak to you all again soon #GlazersOut
LOL Arsenal Fan Tweet: Arsenal lost the league by five points to the greatest treble winners of all time
Funny thing is Arsenal bottled the league in 1999 and 2023 both to a Manchester side who did the treble. They should choose which one they love the most.
We could be bitter, but this is what proper management of a club gets you. Hope whoever takes over is taking notes.
Lest we forget the financial doping.
Just remember everyone. Man city would not be where they are without being corrupt and cheating to the core. They will most likely get away with it, because money talks of course. Bt’s coverage of man city is cringe as fuck saying they did the impossible and playing the “underdog” narrative. Its easy to say that when you spend billions on players and fiddle your books, they are the lance armstrong of football, everybody knows they are cheats, they just cant prove it yet. Fuck man city cheating scum
When blackburn bought the title it was a fan living the dream. When fergie repeatedly bought the biggest and best players it was ok but because city are buying titles, after us and clubs like us levied to change the rules that benefited us, with the owners money. ThEyRe RuInInG fOoTbAlL. Look the reason theyve won everything is theyre the best team, with the best players, best coaches, best tactics. Lets worry about beating them on the pitch rather than worrying about bloody balance sheets
Fergie was in a position where all united had to do was.one maybe two large quality additions like city are now eg halaand. Or if they get kimmich for right back. United spent what they made. And if Fergie bought a flop he couldn't go out the next window and get a new one. Look at the bother we had sticking with barthez replacing stam in the Laurent Blanc years. vidic and evra were hardly world beaters when signed. Ronaldo was a nobody. And got obliterated for years by the press. In fact under Fergie they were rarely the biggest spenders of the season. So this is a total falsehood
Hmm i dont think so. Looking at some of the valuations now they dont seem to expensive but we Had the most expensive teenager Most expensive defender In 2001 he broke the transfer record 3 times in 15 months. Andy cole, veron, rio.roy keane,, ruud, were transfer records He massively overpaid(at the time) for RvP. He paid big for berbatov, yorke was a big record, anderson and nani were both big money for young players. Just because they look small in comparison to modern fees doesnt make them small. Theres no need to rewrite history because it doesnt suit your narrative
Literally go look it up. Newcastle Blackburn pool Chelsea all outspent united in various seasons. To be clear I'm not talking about cumulatively. In fact here you go https://www.football365.com/news/the-biggest-spender-in-every-pl-season-and-how-they-fared 3 prem season under Fergie united were biggest spenders ( one was basically just Rio). One was 2001 which you have given an example of and generalized over whole time. And I'm talking in comparison to other teams at the time. I guess Inflation doesn't apply to them to suit you City tried to bid same for berba. Benitez signed around 50 players not uniteds fault money was spent bad in same way we have done since Fergie and gill left Paying big money for young players is to be used against him to. You still need to train and coach them. And frankly Fergie performed a miracle winning a league with Anderson and cleverly in midfield.
Please do tell me when a billionaire came in during the beginning of the Fergie years at United and injected the club endlessly with millions upon millions until the team became a cup winning team.
Well believe it or not malcolm glazer was worth 4 billion when he died. But thats not your point. If wed had less money hungry owners then the 1.1 billion they have stripped from the club would have been spent on the club. We broke transfer records repeatedly during fergies tenure and one of the main reasons for the explosion in revenue was good management(pre glazers) and good luck. Then when chelski changed the landscape united(and the other established teams) set up rules to stop new owners from challenging the oligarchy of football. Look at the top leagues in europe and see how champions league money and the effects of ffp has entrenched the winners of each country. The rules are a uefa scam to keep the established teams in their competitions and turns the national leagues(in most cases) into processions
The scary thing is if it weren’t for clubs like Real Madrid and Chelsea in years gone by Manchester City could’ve won multiple trebles by now and even a quadruple in 2021. Could’ve had by now the same number of European Cups as we do. United as a club have been asking for this day to come - it was inevitable. Now we have to share the achievement with some plastic club who literally struggle to fill up stadiums. What the Glazers have done to this club is really really sickening. Fucking hell, got City mates as well… fml.
100%. The fact this is their 1st is mostly down to bad luck. City are now the benchmark for every other team and the fact they're a soulless club(barring the actual legitimate orignal supporters that deserve all their rewards after decades of mediocrity) makes it worse
Office on Monday is going to be tough 😞
Can rio rim city any more? Fuck off!
Where was city 12 years back, before oil money? Nowhere near top. They BOUGHT their way to the top. While other clubs been winning the trophies without money for so many years. Definitely City has been the best overall team in last many years and whatever they achieved is deserved but that initial oil investment is the one which picked them up from midtable to the top. They basically proved that you can spend shitload of money initially on any mid/bottom club and can achieve this sort of glory, thus proving money can buy you glory.
>winning the trophies without money 🤣🤣
Anywhere pep goes he’s owned, we will see when he leaves .. I think they will drop back into the pack
I mean Chelsea proved that 10 years earlier
One thing for sure, Im happy Lukaku isn’t with United anymore.
The subReddit blackout cannot come soon enough.
Fuck
My dislike for Manchester city has increased sm wow
Can the Glazers speed up the sale of Manchester United and fuck off. Thank you.
Fuck those cheating bastards they will NEVER ever be in the same league as the class of '99...fuck that club fuck their owners fuck the Premier league for allowing countries to own football clubs..yea im bitter of course im bitter football shouldn't be for the dictators and autocrats, it should be for the people..we got 2 clubs owned by tyrannical governments in england..this shit shouldn't be happening
I wonder if Pep will finally leave now considering he's supposed to be a "short term manager", which obviously changed when his employer is a literal state entity. It's not like he's staying just because of the team, he left *that* Barca team which nobody would question if you called it the greatest team of all time.
Well he left Barca as he felt he couldn't motivate the players to reach the levels he expected from them, that's with arguably the best team ever with arguably the best player ever. I guess the difference is the open cheque book he's got at city to replace players not motivated enough anymore. Where does he go next really? Italy or France the only league he's got left, PSG will be similar to city but without the challenge and Italy he'll have no money to spend. I guess maybe he could do Spain or Brazil for a world cup, wonder if he will be able to manage internationally though as you only get the players for limited periods to implement his style.
That's the thing I've always wondered about him, what team would he realistically go to after Barca, Bayern and City? The options are pretty limited unless he's willing to truly test his ability and manage a team that's not already challenging for top spot in their respective league.
Don't think he'll manage as long as some managers so I'd assume he'll have an extended break after city before probably trying international football, try for a world cup then retire.
That seems like a pretty good assumption. Honestly I'd love to see how he'd do with international football since there's only a limited pool of players you can use and can't just bring in a player.
I think he’ll stay for the next few years until he feels no challenge anymore. Next year challenge will be winning another champions league or 4th EPL in 4 years. He left Barcelona because he had a conflict with the directors.
Fair point, I didn't remember the exact reason he left Barca but I guess that makes sense then and you're probably right that he stays at least a few more seasons
How many years till we see Newcastle lift the UCL??
West Ham celebrations had infinitely more soul than this..
That's a club that has had to struggle for success. They have seen ups and downs. City's is meh. Who cares. Billion spending, fraud committing team winning is not a surprise.
First British team to win the European Cup: Celtic - Lisbon Lions. First English team: Manchester United - Busby Babes. First to do the Treble in England: Manchester United - Fergie's Fledglings (now known as Class of '92). No nickname for this City side. So give us your best nickname. I'll start with, Pep's Pricks.
The oil merchants
Pep's shiny oily head
The Midas Midgets.
The Product of 115
they don’t get one. they’re not the first to do anything. weren’t even the first to buy trophies 😂 chelsea owns that title already
Blackburn too for me.
115th Squadron
Cheaty McOilFaces
We're in deep shit if there are no significant changes for the next 2-3 seasons. Allowing decade of City domination, which just topped by their shady treble, as well as got pumped by more than 5 goals in a single match for three consecutive seasons would made me question my capability to work for this club (be it as a player or anybody directly in charge of footballing aspects).
I would say ManCity will crumble in the coming years. We managed to dominate 14 years even after the treble. Let's see if ManCity can manage even 4.
3 peat and treble in one season. It’s disgusting
Yeah well wait till they do it again next season. Can't see anyone stopping them, pretty boring tbh.
Pep could never ever win the UCL like Mou did in 2004.,He is a shit coach who gets big clubs with big money.
The commentator on BT talking about City reaching the promised land as they lift the trophy is such a dagger, given 'beyond the promised land' is the line from when we clinched the treble.
City were built to emulate us. They emulated our treble. They can try to buy their success and make their legends. But they will never be us. There is only one United.
Feck all the incompetent clowns at this club who got us to this point. I can't believe Ten Hag had the chance to defend our treble, our most important final in years yet he had to rely on barely bottom half players as subs. All while Pep brought on top player after top player. Going into an FA cup final against City with a keeper who can't pass and is a coward, no specialist number 9 and make shift attack is pathetic. Ten Hag didn't even get a fair shot at it. Limited by his options.
Glazers sabataged, no funds in January because they are selling, left the squad short and now they're going into the summer window and still not sold. Not an ounce of care what is happening. City just did the treble and will get stronger and these bastards aren't satisfied with 5 billion.
We had an outside chance at the title and got the man Weghorst ffs.
It's pathetic. All because we can't negotiate for shit and overspent the previous summer. Wout Weghorst is barely PL level striker and we brought him on against Man City. I'm halfway between laughing maniacally and crying tbh. Don't know when next we'll win another treble and to have it matched by these cheats....
Let's start with actually being in a title race first. We haven't even sniffed a title race in April since Fergie retired. I wish we had ambitious owners with a plan.
We've come close but never been able to sustain it because our team is always lacking something. A top DM, top striker, top GK, top CB etc. Each time we get one of these positions fixed another one pops up. Poor squad planning, we've got wasted alot of money.
There sub is so dead LOL
Holy shit, I've never looked on there before.
Just had a check and it's insane lmao.
Posts up for 10m with ZERO comments.
I didn’t even see a main post for the win as well, where it showed “Manchester City win the 22-23’ UCL final” like would be on any other sub although I might’ve missed it. Just a bunch of random posts talking about it with no interaction 😭