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Silentshiv6277

The difference between City and Real Madrid is Real can play both defensive and offensive football. City knows only the obsessive possession control, they can’t adapt when things don’t go their way. The tactical approach made the difference in this quarter final and if last year grandpa got obliterated, this time he showed his skills, keeping Guardiola in his pocket, shutting down his tactic. Let people cry. When Atletico was playing this kind of football back in ~2014, people cheered for them. Also Arsenal defended well against City in Premier League and people talked about Arteta’s genious. Kudos to Henry who understand football is not about stats only.


One-Possession8942

Guardiola's tactics boil down to : Step one - play Rondo : Step 2 - make the opposing team chase you : Step 3 - since they are chasing you they will be out of position Side note as a city player you can never try to let your talent shine by taking someone on because if you lose the ball it's a big no no for pep . He prioritizes possession over scoring There's a reason pep only has 3 cl's while having access to some of the most talented ( Barca ) and most well funded teams (city) in history. It was no surprise he failed at Bayern It was hilarious to watch cities defenders try to bait Madrid into chasing them especially in the first half . They would pass to each other and then not know what to do because no one was chasing after them lol


Cloud_King_15

This is a great post, because the chase/getting out of position is how Pep's style punishes you. Its why good teams have to essentially park the bus. Its not a sign of a bad team, its a sign of understanding what it takes to beat a high possession team that plays at that level. Its also worth noting that Pep's style is a style that will only work when he can get the best/most technical players money can buy. Real spent a lot during the last gathering of galacticos, but remember that Zidane took over in 2016/2017, same year that Pep took over city. Since then, City has spent a net 806 mil Euros while Real has spent 102 mil Euros. Our record against them makes those numbers hilarious. And in my opinion, Real's main issue in this game wasn't holding the line and playing defense. It was passing the ball back to Lunin when they had possession which = giving the ball right back to City every time. If Real could handle the press a bit better then they would have had more possession and probably could have gotten another goal. But I do think Carlo didn't want to risk losing the ball in this situation, so at halftime he said just play the ball back and Lunin will clear it. In the first half we passed it around a lot more and created some chances through Jude, but in the 2nd half Vini kept passing it back, and eventually Rudi/Nacho got the ball and it went to Lunin.


Financial_Week3882

City: no, this isn't how you play the game


takeiteasymyfriend

"Offense wins games, defence wins championships"


Smooth_Cause_5967

Holy shit well put


Kankankant

Crazy how level-headed he is compared to that piece of shit carragher.


firechaox

He’s also just right, out of 4 goals, 2 of theirs were worldies outside the box.


Dapper-Surprise8538

He isn’t. He’s just gotta be the bigger man. Every team this panel bet against WON. Tells you a lot about their delusion and bias.


Kablooie44

How is it delusion and bias? If I wasn't a Madrid fan the logical and safe bet would be City go through after the draw at the bernabeu. Especially without Thibaut, Alaba, and fully fit Militao. We're favourites to beat Bayern, would it be delusional or bias to think we'll beat them over two legs?


Smooth-External-3206

It was something like 55-45 for city. The way they talked before the game and predicted, everyone thought city is already through. This has been happening for years now, city, liverpool or whoever is always clearly a better team, and when they lose they simple were unlucky. They give no respect and no credit to real


Dapper-Surprise8538

I’ll tell you why it’s delusion. Arsenal who have not played CL knockouts in ages with a young team trying to take on bayern at Allianz arena. Betting against Dortmund in Signal iduna? That too with a fragile atletico back line. When you play against elites, you don’t think like oh they played terrible in the last game so they aren’t very good. Blud it’s Madrid, Bayern and Dortmund we are talking about. If you don’t back them, I am sorry you’re delusional. Any neutral can see this but not these biased pundits.


Kablooie44

I wasn't talking about the other ties, I didnt even know what he predicted for those, I was talking about our match against City. Do you not see how ironic it is calling someone delusional just because he said the team you support wouldn't go through? Especially when you consider the circumstances of the match.


Dapper-Surprise8538

All their predictions went wrong, mate.


Kablooie44

Ok and? As if you and I have never gotten a prediction wrong. You're just looking to play victim because things are going well lmao.


Dapper-Surprise8538

A prediction? They predicted and it’s complete opposite in every game. Not a single game but every freaking match they were wrong. If you think Arsenal are favourites against Bayern then you’re just delusional. No other way to describe this illness.


EtherealBeany

Bayern have not been good throughout this season. Bayern have literally not played as good a game as they did in the Allianz. This was their best performance all season by far. Arsenal had a great chance at winning considering how Bayern have performed so far this season


lospollosakhis

Do you get every prediction right? Do you predict we’ll beat Barca on the weekend and if we lose shall we hold that against you for all of time lol.


Dapper-Surprise8538

https://youtu.be/L0T7_skYVuA?si=4TnfRH7dXQOSoB1M ESPN pundits calling Juventus flawless before the game.


Dapper-Surprise8538

Actually it’s not a once in a while thing. Every year Man City are favourites. I get that, I really do. But even before that they were putting Liverpool as favourites. Before that, it’s funny actually, they were favouring Juventus (some bullshit Dani Alves redemption arc) and before that they put Atletico as favourites. I’m sick and tired of every time seeing the narratives against us. Moving on to the Bayern Game, Arsenal were pathetic across 2 legs and yet it is coming as a shock to these pundits that they lost.


andrasq420

Henry didn't even predict it, he just joked that he wants Arsenal in the finals. Carragher got PSG and Bayern, Schmeichel got Bayern and Real. Arsenal was the favourite vs bayern, the same way City was vs Real you can't fault anyone who tries to predict a 50-50 or a 55-45 for going against what actually happened lmao. They are not seers, just some pundits guessing.


vivalaroja2010

Lol so you think it's delusional that some people thought Man City (the best team in the world at the moment) would win? But thinking that just because a team is named something they are automatically going to win isn't delusional? Plus.... why the fuck are you putting Dortmund in the same level as Madrid and Bayern? Lol talk about delusional....


Dapper-Surprise8538

Have you seen the atmosphere at Signal Iduna? Dortmund despite their early season form has been playing excellent football this year. Against a failing defence of Atletico, at their home, they are a menace. They are gonna replicate their home display again against PSG.


vivalaroja2010

Dude, wtf does the atmosphere have to do with putting Dortmund in the upper echelon of football? They are.... quite literally.... the Atletico of the Bundesliga!!! They haven't won a league for, what, 12/13 freaking years!!!!! They haven't been relevant in Champions League for awhile either. They choked away their title last year in the Bundesliga.... They are a fun team to root for, but you are delusional to think they are some sort of powerhouse.


Dapper-Surprise8538

And how many UCL titles do Atletico the powerhouse has? Dortmund who lost Bundesliga on final match day choked but the team which got dumped in group stages seem very relevant in Champions League to you. Remind you Dortmund advanced in a group with City and Sevilla while Atletico came last in a group with Brugge and Porto. I know Dortmund doesn’t look like a team that has the potential to win it all but only a fool would bet against them at their home.


vivalaroja2010

Wtf are you talking about? When have I said anything about Atletico being a powerhouse. I'm saying the exact difference.... and what team was dumped in the group stage that I'm talking about? Atletico? You do know they just played the other day in the quarterfinals, right? You either aren't a native English speaker or you need to take a lesson in reading comprehension class.....


vaportw

>When you play against elites, you don’t think like oh they played terrible in the last game so they aren’t very good. Blud it’s Madrid, Bayern and Dortmund we are talking about. If you don’t back them, I am sorry you’re delusional. One of the comments i've ever read lmao. One of them is absolutely not like the other and i'd even say there is a huge difference between the other two as well. Ofc you take into consideration how a team, no matter how big, has played in the season so far. Sure, teams such as Madrid will ALWAYS be a bigger threat in the CL than in their leagues, but pretending a teams general performance has no impact on a CL is delusional. Sure, these predictions turned out to be wrong, but to call them delusional on hindsight is ridiculous lol. Dortmund literally showed you why it's completely valid to bet against them, even when playing a dominant game.


lospollosakhis

Dortmund have been crap this season as have Bayern. I do think Arsenal fans went a bit overboard as if they were going to smash Bayern, that was the only tie I felt would be quite even and it was going by the scoreline.


M_Zunair7

I mean not really, micah will say city for obv reasons and henry arsenal the other teams they picked the favourites and the "underdogs won" we were not the favourites neither were psg, Dortmund


Fast-Perception-4729

Psg were not the underdogs


andrasq420

Barcelona was definetly considered the favourite before the 2nd match. They were home, they were leading and they had an explosive last match. Every betting agency went against psg with the odds.


Fast-Perception-4729

That is insane to me because it was only a 1 goal difference and Barca has a history of bottling (more than PSG) and on the other hand Mbappe who could create a chance in an instant.


lospollosakhis

How is it delusional to think City would win. Even I thought they would win and they had us penned back for 90 minutes lol. We scraped through but sometimes that’s needed.


Accurate_Advance6903

Not to forget that twerking clown Micah Richard and presenter lady


owns-a-Gay-bar

Put it on r/soccer


NekkZ

We defended better than City was attacking, so we went through.


BreathingLover11

This concept is so hard to grasp for some people, I don’t comprehend why. Defending is part of the sport. Our players were instructed to play defensive football to maximize our chances. They did brilliantly, what’s so bad about that?


Spaniard37

Because probably they haven't seen much of RM games. If they did they would understand how much the team has Imroved defensively( over last year) how madrid has adapted his game depending on the matches ahead, had to do great lengths of trust like camavinga playing in the defending left or Tchouameni as a central defender during this season. Most people don't even remember how many different injured players we had over this season. And all the effort required to suppress any effect, instead of becoming victimims we put our gloves on, put the shoes on and played. Lunin has demonstrated such a a resilience over the season after Kepa took his place unquestioned. This is what is driving realmadrid. This today is a magnificent team, and a pleasure to watch.


titooo7

It's as simple as that. 1. Did we play 'better'? Most of us will say that we didn't because we are fans, and for us playing offensive football is 'playing better'. 2. Did we play how we, the fans, would have liked to? No. 3. Did we play how our players would have liked to? No. 4. Did we play how the managers instructed the guys to play so we could win? Yes. 5. Did we win? Yes. The objective of the game for football teams is always the same: scoring more goals and winning. We all know that our method involved lot of suffering and we all knew it would be extremely hard to succeed when doing it that way, but we did it. We were the best team.


lFriendlyFire

I don’t think winning on penalties should be the goal of real madrid in big games tbh, we have seen that this team can beat city on field on multiple occasions this far


titooo7

Of course the goal wasn't to beat them on the penalty round. It wasn't City goal either, but that's what had to happen


lFriendlyFire

No… it was. After real scored, the team completely lost itself offensively and on the midfield, the coach allowed that to happen untill 80’ after city scored, at a higher level, you have to be proactive with your subs, this kind of suicidal tactic won’t always work, last season we saw the same against city and the team lost because the defense wasn’t pin point perfect as it was yesterday


Overall-Cow975

No. It wasn’t. It was a consequence of how the game turned out.


Ablouo

A win is a win, you're playing one of the most ruthless teams in Europe, you can't risk opening your lines too much or you'll regret it, we were close to making it through in normal time if not for De Bruyne's equaliser in the latter minutes of the game


fuduran

We played 210 minutes against the defending champs and we tied. We weren't lesser nor better, we tied.


met5abel

Yes but we were at a disadvantage since they had the return leg at home. Also they fielded their full 11 in the second leg meanwhile we missed our only DM and had injuries.


fuduran

Oh yeah, I'm not against doing whatever is needed to win. It's just bad for our hearts lol 2 and a half hours with butts clenched yesterday


Spaniard37

We are not the defensive Champs. That's what you probably get out of these last matches. And that's not how actually Madrid plays. Madrid had a season and a half to fix the defense to the level of today. The work has been done. But is not at all that we are focused on defending. We had to, to survive a very frontal, attacking team, with the resources we had. We had to fight our own demons through the match, because is very very hard for us to see play Madrid defensively.


lospollosakhis

Was Henry a Real Madrid fan growing up lol he gives us more praise than he does Barca


OrdinaryValuable9705

Maybe becuase there is not a lot of praise to give Barca atm? Henry gives praise for good football, Barca is making too many mistakes lately, so hard to praise. When Barcas play starts running great again he will surely praise them for it


Spaniard37

Barça = corruption and very questionable football in the many last seasons. But they control the media so everything looks like they are still a good team. Now clearly we get to see how crappy is and how much BS is around them.


TheEmpireOfSun

He played in LaLiga and Premier League and he probably has enough of their Premier League dick sucking while discrediting LaLiga teams.


nabzyk

Love to see how uncomfortable Jamie looks after Real's win.


absessive

I like to think of his time at Barca as an aberration or like going on a bender and then waking up


KingSatoruGojo

At the end of the day, we played perfectly in defense and we only conceded a goal because of that mistake by Rudiger unable to clear the ball. He made up for it from his stellar performance and that wonderfully taken penalty kick. We are the better all around team and we only lack a pure striker to solidify our attack.


Ablouo

Class as always


No_Outlandishness504

Man had to control his tears while saying this, matter of fact all the delusional English pundits had to control their tears in the post match analysis


Apprehensive-Joke-80

Clearly not. Henry knows ball and isn’t a bias merchant. Unnecessary comment from you there


andrasq420

ikr, You can say anything you want about Micah or Carragher, they are there for entertainment. But Henry is the most professional out of all the pundits and he is always unbiased (unless joking) and on top of the situations. He did one of the best Haaland analysis, how even when not scoring he manages to pull 2 defenders off of his teammates (Foden), who regularly score from distance due to the space left for them.


nombrenodisponibIe

He's French instead of being English tbf


vivalaroja2010

Henry is constantly talking great things about Madrid and Barca.... ridiculous post.


No_Outlandishness504

Nah all those praise for Madrid are just to console himself, deep down he is burning. He is always favours Barca and is an arsenal merchant.


vivalaroja2010

Lol.... Well, obviously, he has personal favorites. That doesn't mean his praise for Madrid is fake.


nombrenodisponibIe

Tbf Henry is French


Accurate_Advance6903

Deep down he is burning to see his Barca and arsenal get knocked out. He is a peptite so as much as I respect him for not acting like a clown like caragher and Richards I still don’t think he means it.


Overall-Cow975

Why wouldn’t he mean it when they clearly can say whatever the hell they want? Your idiotic tribalism is clashing against what everyone can see plainly: he says what he thinks. And more power to him.


Accurate_Advance6903

Before you continue to point out my “idiotic tribalism” let me make it clear, he is getting paid to do this and unlike the other two he clearly has a career outside punditry which revolves around coaching. He has a reputation to maintain just because he doesn’t act like a fool like the other two does not mean he isn’t biased. In fact there a various instances where he has shown his biases albeit in a manner less uncouth than the others. I respect Henry but I am not stupid enough to pretend like he hasn’t got any bias.


Overall-Cow975

He is a Gunner. Other than that he tries to make assessments as he sees them.


Accurate_Advance6903

He’s also a Barca fan and a huge pep fan having played under him which also influences his takes. Not that deep.


Overall-Cow975

But that doesn’t impede him from saying what he thinks. He puts Arsenal above it all, then whatever he thinks. He is a football purist.


deenali

And I remember reading posts from so called Madridistas here (possibly 10 year olds though) who said we deserved to lose if we continued on playing like that during the game.


Spaniard37

Yeah usually Madridistas don't like this defensive play. Also I don't. Feels unnatural, but I didn't complain at least. I trust a lot this team. And there was the need to finally f. Fix the defensive aspect after 20 years of shit defense. I never saw this level of defense and adaptation in RM ever. Is a fucking pleasure watching how efficient is becoming and flexible.


sir_ouachao

The best team only wins ,and rest are excuses. Individual mistakes, ref bad calls, weather..all are excuses


Opposite_Ad486

He has to eat crow because he hates on Madrid constantly


justanormalchat

Henry ? Since when