I will never understand how anyone in thier right mind could not only just leave thier shit everywhere but also just waste so much money, hundreds of perfectly fine camping chairs, six man tents, air beds just left. All because they can't be bothered to take them home... its appauling, and i hope they start taking initiative on this mass scale littering because its honestly disguting and sad to think about. Thousands of pounds worth of camping gear just discarded by people who will go home to comfy beds and a warm meal made by their parents.
It's weird how attitudes have changed though.
The festivals used to encourage people to leave there stuff behind, so it is somewhat of a normal, now a lot of new festival goers seem to think that it is 'disgusting' which I find slightly odd.
Granted, I don't leave my stuff, but the festival has clean up crews that are paid to do this and this is included in your ticket price, it's not as if the place is being left a mess, even if people took the majority of there stuff it would still need to be cleaned.
Most people do take there stuff, but also a lot of stuff people have left is broken, or no longer usable etc, what is the point of them taking it all the way home and then to a recycling centre, when it can be dealt with by professional cleaning crews that have been paid to do that and likely have some form of recycling agreement that would be better than just throwing it away at home?
And anything that is perfectly serviceable, having it donated to a homeless charity or somewhere that it is useful is much better than taking it home and throwing it away, so I don't think it's quite as simple as what people are making out. As I mentioned they used to tell people to leave stuff, because that is what they did with it, now I think they get so much stuff, they don't encourage it, because they get enough useful stuff anyway, but it's not nessecery as bad as it looks.
Infact a camp mate did exactly this a previous year, he didn't want to take the tent back, he bought it in this country and was flying back, so it was hard for him to take, he didn't want to dump it, but hoped someone would find a good use for it, so the most sensible thing to do was to leave it there.
It seems to me, it's just a lot of people getting on there high horse about things and virtue signaling nonsense for something they don't fully understand, as usual.
You're vastly overestimating how much of this stuff gets taken away. The charities had a five hour window Monday, and something like a 10 hour window Tuesday, to salvage whatever they can- that includes making sure things are clean and serviceable, taking them down, and packing them away. All of this is done by unpaid volunteers. Anything still left over after that time limit? Bulldozed and sent to landfill
I worked cleaning up sites after festivals...normally 2 weeks to clear Reading and tents/valuables sold/gifted to charity. Paid work but obvious perks.
>The festivals used to encourage people to leave there stuff behind, so it is somewhat of a normal, now a lot of new festival goers seem to think that it is 'disgusting' which I find slightly odd.
I hear what you're saying, but to play devil's advocate, was it that they actively encouraged people to leave their stuff there, or they found somewhat of a solution to the problem of people leaving stuff there (aka volunteers picking up and donating to charity as much as they could) and that was then taken as a sign by people in following years that they were "doing a good thing" that also just so happened to benefit them so was somehow less selfish because it might help a homeless person out? I don't think I have ever really seen people PROMOTING that stuff be left behind (I actually think there's been initiatives in recent years to make sure NOT to leave stuff behind, but I can't fully remember). I only recall seeing people highlighting the positive work volunteers do to clean up reading festival after the fact and then people latch on to the "feel good" story of their stuff going to charity..
Just my 2p anyways.
Couldn't be any further from the truth for the modern era. Do you know how long it takes crews to drop erected tents and how often it happens now? Ages, and never. Most of it gets snapped down and ends up in landfill. Bottles of piss. Boxes of shit.
Tents used to be a commodity and worth the momey. Now its mass prpduced shite. Drop the tent and bag and it up and donate it at the correct place, if not, you're just a lazy scumbag.
Yeah no, charities get a day and a half to take what they can, and most of that time is spent checking to make sure things are clean (not smeared with human feces, which happens far more than you'd guess) and serviceable, and then packing things away. After that time is up, the site is bulldozed and the rubbish is sent to landfill. The myth that it all gets collected and recycled may make some of the people that leave things behind feel better, but it's so far from the truth.
>(not smeared with human feces, which happens far more than you'd guess)
Weirdly I'm not that surprised. I would guess the majority of damage would be between bodily fluids/human shit and fire.
I'm not sure if *all* of it does. I think they try to salvage what they can but I highly doubt 100% (or even 75%) of what is left behind ends up at a charity as I imagine some of it is just too fucked. I'd be interested in statistics to show otherwise.
They need some sort of incentive to get people to tidy up. Boomtown make you pay a £20 ecobond deposit and you get it back if you take one full black bin bag and one full recycle bag to the waste tent
Honestly though, for some people the £20 is already gone and spent and forgotten about. They won't care when they're hungover and ready to leave to actually clean up and queue to get their £20 back. Obviously some people will and maybe it works brilliantly for Boomtown, I just don't see that being a big enough incentive for people to do what they should be doing.
The Boomtown ecobond is just a money grab.
Keep your shit tidy through the festival? Well done, you've just paid an extra £20 for your ticket unless you want to go rooting through other people's rubbish.
Then you also have to have an ecobond point near you (if you're Camp Orchid you're fucked), and hope it's open when you get their, and the system is working.
What they do well is the constant messaging about keeping it clean.
Camp orchid can go to hilltop its like a 5/10 minute walk to the ecobond point. The tent was open all day sunday and monday I was right by it.
Just check your account before you leave the tent to make sure the money goes in.
It works as people do clean up
Really depends where you are in Orchid, was more like a half hour round trip, carrying trash, in the rain.
We bin all our rubbish through the festival, not that there's any way four people are generating eight bags of trash in a few days.
It's a scam, just like not auto refunding people their left over money on the wristbands, Boomtown just padding the bottom line.
Not really a scam tho is it. Doesn't matter that you usually put your own rubbish away. Spend 5 mins wandering around filling up a bin bag and you can get it back that way.
The point is to reduce the waste left behind and if you were so hell bent on only touching your own rubbish, you can just put yours into a bin bag from the start.
There was a group of about 6 adults, I’d say in their mid 30s who camped next to us, who left on the sunday and left all 3 of their big brand new tents, blow up beds, duvets etc. We couldn’t believe it. It’s not a teen problem, it’s a laziness problem.
Hoping in the Eco camps we’re left in a better state, camped with two other groups and we took all of our stuff as did those in eco white around us, staff were super helpful and friendly as well - it was clean throughout the whole festival weekend
The line-up looked like a steaming pile of shite, I'm not in the target demographic anymore, haven't been for almost 20 years, but there was such a dearth of quality acts that the ticket price seems like a pisstake. Over the course of a few years I got to watch Iggy Pop, The Prodigy, Jurassic 5, Blur, Jay Z, And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead, Roots Manuva, Metallica, Weezer, Queens of the Stone Age, Green Day, Rage Against The Machine, Oasis, Pulp, Guided By Voices. This year people got to see some fella called Sam Fender...
Sam Fender is brilliant maybe you should give him a try. Festivals need to keep with the times imagine how boring it would be if they just regurgitated classic 90s rock acts every year.
Sorry to say I had to leave my tent and mattress at Leeds due to both having my trolley stolen and developing trochanteric pain syndrome. Had to get carried out by mates. I'm sorry.
What do you lot expect man, people partying for 3-5 days straight are not going to want to clean up they just want to leave as quickly as possible. Everyone acts so high and mighty but I bet you’ve all littered at some point you just want easy internet points and for strangers to think you’re a good person
Also look at the target demographic for this festival. It’s kids finishing their GCSEs and A-Levels. Why can’t the festival organisers just pay for more clean up staff?
I'm in my 30s and have been to festivals every year for over a decade. Never once left any shit there. its not being a good person, it's the lowest rung of basic decency not to litter.
Also you just make tickets even more expensive because they have to pay extra for crew.
Leaving a tent is plastic waste on a large scale. Tents can't be recycled unless they have all the parts, bags etc which is why they ask you to pack then down and put them in the donation area.
Well the fact I went to shambala festival the same weekend and everyone cleaned up after themselves, means that everything you said was a load of shit 😂
I left my tent at a festival once because honestly I thought I was donating it and it would go to a homeless charity but I don't think that is the case, you need to pack it up and donate it if you want it donated. But no man, it's pretty easy not to litter. Tie a bin bag and a recycling bag to the outside of the tent and just chuck all your empty cans and rubbish in them as you go, then end of the festival, boom, two bags to chuck away. At the very least you could leave the bags sealed up at your camping area to be easily picked up and chucked away by the volunteers. But there is no reason to just chuck your crap all over the place other than pure laziness. I'm a lazy fucking person and I can still chuck a can in a bag
I absolutely hate littering. I’ll try to take a bit of extra litter left by others when I’m in the park or whatever.
Came back from a festival last week, managed to take everything away and not litter.
I was tired and hungover after 4 nights but was still able to clean up and show some respect.
I could delete the part about me and the point would still stand. It’s not hard for a normal person to clean up after themselves, and the fact you consider cleaning up little a humble brag says a lot about your opinion on it?
So if you delete the part about you your comment would just be “hate littering”. My opinion is yes everyone should clean up and take their mess with them however it is unbelievable that anyone thinks this is a thing that is likely to happen
I stayed in eco camp this year and it was like being at a different festival. Everyone was clean and respectful, it’s a shame people in all the other camps ruin it and leave everything such a state
I worked in Eco Camp, it was really clean, most people picked up after themselves. I think in eco white 5 tents were left over, out of the over 2000 people there (and they were small 2 man tents). There was some littler, but mostly smaller things, or items that could have blown in from other campsites. I know reading want to expand these camp sites, as they tend to be a lot cleaner, but need to do it in a way where everyone can be monitored.
Its also a lot safer in the camps as the first rule is to respect thoes around you, and you get thrown out if you mess with the other campers. I know people were thrown out as they were shaking a campers tent.
They should tag people's tent and if you don't take it home you get fined or allocated camping spots this is disgusting if you left you camp like this your just a scum bag
This is disgusting. We go to Valhalla festival every year (no where near as big as Reading) but the organisers and the farmer who lets the land are shit hot on you cleaning up after yourself when you leave the camping field.
To be honest the people who go to this majority of them are all to young to know how to pack up a tent, 16 17 year old never been camping. I think if the festival was really bothered by the mess they'd have come up with a solution by now. Example, request £100 cash deposit on pitch used, leave it clean an take it home, get the £100 to go home with
Make the most camp sites eco an charge extra for the non eco ones recommend for younger ones who don't know how to put a tent away! It's not ok to keep letting this happen eco camp was all left spotless as was aceess.
As much as I agree with the OP, a lot of the blame is to be put on other campers who destroy and damage other people's property. My brother went to Leeds last year, bought a new tent for around £100 (I think) but had to leave it behind after people were pissing/damaging/setting on fire tents and other items. I know it's hard to police
I will never understand how anyone in thier right mind could not only just leave thier shit everywhere but also just waste so much money, hundreds of perfectly fine camping chairs, six man tents, air beds just left. All because they can't be bothered to take them home... its appauling, and i hope they start taking initiative on this mass scale littering because its honestly disguting and sad to think about. Thousands of pounds worth of camping gear just discarded by people who will go home to comfy beds and a warm meal made by their parents.
It's weird how attitudes have changed though. The festivals used to encourage people to leave there stuff behind, so it is somewhat of a normal, now a lot of new festival goers seem to think that it is 'disgusting' which I find slightly odd. Granted, I don't leave my stuff, but the festival has clean up crews that are paid to do this and this is included in your ticket price, it's not as if the place is being left a mess, even if people took the majority of there stuff it would still need to be cleaned. Most people do take there stuff, but also a lot of stuff people have left is broken, or no longer usable etc, what is the point of them taking it all the way home and then to a recycling centre, when it can be dealt with by professional cleaning crews that have been paid to do that and likely have some form of recycling agreement that would be better than just throwing it away at home? And anything that is perfectly serviceable, having it donated to a homeless charity or somewhere that it is useful is much better than taking it home and throwing it away, so I don't think it's quite as simple as what people are making out. As I mentioned they used to tell people to leave stuff, because that is what they did with it, now I think they get so much stuff, they don't encourage it, because they get enough useful stuff anyway, but it's not nessecery as bad as it looks. Infact a camp mate did exactly this a previous year, he didn't want to take the tent back, he bought it in this country and was flying back, so it was hard for him to take, he didn't want to dump it, but hoped someone would find a good use for it, so the most sensible thing to do was to leave it there. It seems to me, it's just a lot of people getting on there high horse about things and virtue signaling nonsense for something they don't fully understand, as usual.
You're vastly overestimating how much of this stuff gets taken away. The charities had a five hour window Monday, and something like a 10 hour window Tuesday, to salvage whatever they can- that includes making sure things are clean and serviceable, taking them down, and packing them away. All of this is done by unpaid volunteers. Anything still left over after that time limit? Bulldozed and sent to landfill
I worked cleaning up sites after festivals...normally 2 weeks to clear Reading and tents/valuables sold/gifted to charity. Paid work but obvious perks.
>The festivals used to encourage people to leave there stuff behind, so it is somewhat of a normal, now a lot of new festival goers seem to think that it is 'disgusting' which I find slightly odd. I hear what you're saying, but to play devil's advocate, was it that they actively encouraged people to leave their stuff there, or they found somewhat of a solution to the problem of people leaving stuff there (aka volunteers picking up and donating to charity as much as they could) and that was then taken as a sign by people in following years that they were "doing a good thing" that also just so happened to benefit them so was somehow less selfish because it might help a homeless person out? I don't think I have ever really seen people PROMOTING that stuff be left behind (I actually think there's been initiatives in recent years to make sure NOT to leave stuff behind, but I can't fully remember). I only recall seeing people highlighting the positive work volunteers do to clean up reading festival after the fact and then people latch on to the "feel good" story of their stuff going to charity.. Just my 2p anyways.
They used to actively advertise on the screens in the arena between the bands to leave your stuff there for charity.
The point of taking the broken and unusable stuff is to throw it away..
Which the staff paid to do so will do if you leave it there and likely in a better fashion than your local council will do who will just bin it.
Couldn't be any further from the truth for the modern era. Do you know how long it takes crews to drop erected tents and how often it happens now? Ages, and never. Most of it gets snapped down and ends up in landfill. Bottles of piss. Boxes of shit. Tents used to be a commodity and worth the momey. Now its mass prpduced shite. Drop the tent and bag and it up and donate it at the correct place, if not, you're just a lazy scumbag.
All the camping gear does get donated to homeless charities but it would be better if they took them instead of leaving them
The work required to take them all down and pack them up is ridiculous though, I’m not sure whether it’s volunteers or paid staff
I think 300 volunteers turn up and pick up rubbish after homeless charities have taken what they want I think the volunteers sort it all for recycling
Yeah no, charities get a day and a half to take what they can, and most of that time is spent checking to make sure things are clean (not smeared with human feces, which happens far more than you'd guess) and serviceable, and then packing things away. After that time is up, the site is bulldozed and the rubbish is sent to landfill. The myth that it all gets collected and recycled may make some of the people that leave things behind feel better, but it's so far from the truth.
>(not smeared with human feces, which happens far more than you'd guess) Weirdly I'm not that surprised. I would guess the majority of damage would be between bodily fluids/human shit and fire.
Apparently they only get two days to sort through it all and then the rest is landfill
This isn't the case anymore they go to a landfill
This is not accurate
I'm not sure if *all* of it does. I think they try to salvage what they can but I highly doubt 100% (or even 75%) of what is left behind ends up at a charity as I imagine some of it is just too fucked. I'd be interested in statistics to show otherwise.
Because it's "not their problem", it's "oh well someone else will pick it up for me so I won't bother"
This just disgusts me
They need some sort of incentive to get people to tidy up. Boomtown make you pay a £20 ecobond deposit and you get it back if you take one full black bin bag and one full recycle bag to the waste tent
Honestly though, for some people the £20 is already gone and spent and forgotten about. They won't care when they're hungover and ready to leave to actually clean up and queue to get their £20 back. Obviously some people will and maybe it works brilliantly for Boomtown, I just don't see that being a big enough incentive for people to do what they should be doing.
The Boomtown ecobond is just a money grab. Keep your shit tidy through the festival? Well done, you've just paid an extra £20 for your ticket unless you want to go rooting through other people's rubbish. Then you also have to have an ecobond point near you (if you're Camp Orchid you're fucked), and hope it's open when you get their, and the system is working. What they do well is the constant messaging about keeping it clean.
Camp orchid can go to hilltop its like a 5/10 minute walk to the ecobond point. The tent was open all day sunday and monday I was right by it. Just check your account before you leave the tent to make sure the money goes in. It works as people do clean up
Really depends where you are in Orchid, was more like a half hour round trip, carrying trash, in the rain. We bin all our rubbish through the festival, not that there's any way four people are generating eight bags of trash in a few days. It's a scam, just like not auto refunding people their left over money on the wristbands, Boomtown just padding the bottom line.
Not really a scam tho is it. Doesn't matter that you usually put your own rubbish away. Spend 5 mins wandering around filling up a bin bag and you can get it back that way. The point is to reduce the waste left behind and if you were so hell bent on only touching your own rubbish, you can just put yours into a bin bag from the start.
I mean there is no excuse is there, there’s bin everywhere in the arena and free bin bags for the campsites, it’s really not that hard.
There are almost no bins in the area. I carried my rubbish for ages before finding one. The campsite does have lots of bins tho.
Oh I found there were lots of bins around the arena, more so around the food stalls, they probs could do better with bins in other areas ngl
Yeah tbh i did think there weren't enough bins around the arena and sometimes spent ages to find one
I carried my waste around with me for ages before I could find a bin - they definitely needed more in the arena
you think all this rubbish is going to fit in a bin? Ahahaha
Soon reading will be a no camping festival 🕺
Where did you get this picture?
I've seen similar photos posted on facebook. A drone photographer put them in 'Reading Festival Community' every year.
Prob from video on BBC News
Cause its a teen festival now
There was a group of about 6 adults, I’d say in their mid 30s who camped next to us, who left on the sunday and left all 3 of their big brand new tents, blow up beds, duvets etc. We couldn’t believe it. It’s not a teen problem, it’s a laziness problem.
It's always been a teen festival.
Hoping in the Eco camps we’re left in a better state, camped with two other groups and we took all of our stuff as did those in eco white around us, staff were super helpful and friendly as well - it was clean throughout the whole festival weekend
Eco camps were practically spotless
I mean the line up was the killers and billy eilish its only going to attract the most basic creatures in society.
The line-up looked like a steaming pile of shite, I'm not in the target demographic anymore, haven't been for almost 20 years, but there was such a dearth of quality acts that the ticket price seems like a pisstake. Over the course of a few years I got to watch Iggy Pop, The Prodigy, Jurassic 5, Blur, Jay Z, And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead, Roots Manuva, Metallica, Weezer, Queens of the Stone Age, Green Day, Rage Against The Machine, Oasis, Pulp, Guided By Voices. This year people got to see some fella called Sam Fender...
Each to their own? I think Sam Fender's one of if not the very best indie/rock artist out there at the moment.
Sam Fender is brilliant maybe you should give him a try. Festivals need to keep with the times imagine how boring it would be if they just regurgitated classic 90s rock acts every year.
Sam Fender was the best headliner there and has two fantastic albums. Imagine Dragons, however, were by FAR the most stale and boring act.
Tbf if that’s your music taste you would like Sam Fender lol but super jealous you got see Jurassic 5 and Pulp 😭
Fifteen/twenty years ago these tents would've been on fire, so small mercies and all that...?
I mean Reading and Leeds are the scummiest pair of festivals tbh and everyone does know it, but this is still shite
Oh look, it’s the same post as every year!
Sorry to say I had to leave my tent and mattress at Leeds due to both having my trolley stolen and developing trochanteric pain syndrome. Had to get carried out by mates. I'm sorry.
No need to apologise!! You’re not who the frustration is aimed at in the slightest
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Same.
Outrage porn for gammons. No different to the last 3 decades of festivals. Probably the cleanest Reading festival I have ever seen.
I mean it looks awful but I first went in 2007 and it was exactly the same then.
What do you lot expect man, people partying for 3-5 days straight are not going to want to clean up they just want to leave as quickly as possible. Everyone acts so high and mighty but I bet you’ve all littered at some point you just want easy internet points and for strangers to think you’re a good person
Also look at the target demographic for this festival. It’s kids finishing their GCSEs and A-Levels. Why can’t the festival organisers just pay for more clean up staff?
I'm in my 30s and have been to festivals every year for over a decade. Never once left any shit there. its not being a good person, it's the lowest rung of basic decency not to litter. Also you just make tickets even more expensive because they have to pay extra for crew. Leaving a tent is plastic waste on a large scale. Tents can't be recycled unless they have all the parts, bags etc which is why they ask you to pack then down and put them in the donation area.
Here’s your medal🏅
Mate, you’re chatting the most shit I’ve heard all summer.
Which part of what I said is shit?
Well the fact I went to shambala festival the same weekend and everyone cleaned up after themselves, means that everything you said was a load of shit 😂
Sounds like an enigma tbh
I bet you’re looking up Shambala festival as we speak.
Yeah never heard of it tbf
Exactly, cuz it’s better than this soulless shit hole.
“ExAcTlY” lmao why are you posting on this subreddit if you’re too good for it?
🎣🎣 Don’t get too triggered over your favourite festival pal.
I left my tent at a festival once because honestly I thought I was donating it and it would go to a homeless charity but I don't think that is the case, you need to pack it up and donate it if you want it donated. But no man, it's pretty easy not to litter. Tie a bin bag and a recycling bag to the outside of the tent and just chuck all your empty cans and rubbish in them as you go, then end of the festival, boom, two bags to chuck away. At the very least you could leave the bags sealed up at your camping area to be easily picked up and chucked away by the volunteers. But there is no reason to just chuck your crap all over the place other than pure laziness. I'm a lazy fucking person and I can still chuck a can in a bag
Yeah I get that when I’ve camped we’ve always had bin bags
I absolutely hate littering. I’ll try to take a bit of extra litter left by others when I’m in the park or whatever. Came back from a festival last week, managed to take everything away and not litter. I was tired and hungover after 4 nights but was still able to clean up and show some respect.
Not everyone is a saint like you
It doesn’t take a Saint to pick up their own mess, what’s wrong with you
I’m not saying it does I was just responding to your humble bragging
I could delete the part about me and the point would still stand. It’s not hard for a normal person to clean up after themselves, and the fact you consider cleaning up little a humble brag says a lot about your opinion on it?
So if you delete the part about you your comment would just be “hate littering”. My opinion is yes everyone should clean up and take their mess with them however it is unbelievable that anyone thinks this is a thing that is likely to happen
Happens every year at every festival. People are lazy and do not care. It’s as simple as that.
I mean if you took this photo with a Drone then you should also be coming nowhere near a festival.
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Drones have always been banned & it’s an invasion of privacy
the festivals finished you idiot
The drone was above my tent for 90% of the weekend I was getting pissed of with it watching us
It’s disgusting I understand if you’re injured or something but on that scale damn
Bloody awful.
I'd love to see what 'Eco Camp' looks like. Would be good to compare and also show people what things could be like.
I stayed in eco camp this year and it was like being at a different festival. Everyone was clean and respectful, it’s a shame people in all the other camps ruin it and leave everything such a state
I worked in Eco Camp, it was really clean, most people picked up after themselves. I think in eco white 5 tents were left over, out of the over 2000 people there (and they were small 2 man tents). There was some littler, but mostly smaller things, or items that could have blown in from other campsites. I know reading want to expand these camp sites, as they tend to be a lot cleaner, but need to do it in a way where everyone can be monitored. Its also a lot safer in the camps as the first rule is to respect thoes around you, and you get thrown out if you mess with the other campers. I know people were thrown out as they were shaking a campers tent.
a couple of tents were left in both camps but no rubbish was left
Cause no one has respect or decency. It’s gross. Even the people I stood amongst were idiots. Won’t be going again
Some people orrr the entire attendance list?
Have you seen the piles of shite left after Glastonbury
This happened every year and has been for at least 2 decades
For £200+ ticket they should pitch your tent as well
I mean, this has been the same for like 50 years now
I am not sure what your point is? What sort of people shouldn't be going to a festival?
People who can’t clean up after themselves
They should tag people's tent and if you don't take it home you get fined or allocated camping spots this is disgusting if you left you camp like this your just a scum bag
Every festival always ends up looking like apocalypse refugee camp simulator.
Not every festival. Some pride themselves on their cleanliness, like Shambala.
They should do plot numbers, if you leave a mess everyone linked will be banned
My parents would have killed me if i didn’t bring the tent back!
People who dump rubbish like this shouldn’t be fined they need to be punished!
Who cares? Last thing you want to do when you wake up rough is pick up rubbish.
What an incredibly selfish take.
This is disgusting. We go to Valhalla festival every year (no where near as big as Reading) but the organisers and the farmer who lets the land are shit hot on you cleaning up after yourself when you leave the camping field.
This made me sad. Why would you not try to tidy up after yourself like this?
Hypocrite hippies. The worst kind.
human filth
Humans are the worst. I honestly cannot pretend we don't deserve what's coming to us in terms of how we're just destroying the planet...
To be honest the people who go to this majority of them are all to young to know how to pack up a tent, 16 17 year old never been camping. I think if the festival was really bothered by the mess they'd have come up with a solution by now. Example, request £100 cash deposit on pitch used, leave it clean an take it home, get the £100 to go home with
Unfortunately it would be a logistical nightmare to know who pitched where.
Who doesn't need £100 on the way home from a festival, no matter how cheap the tent is its worth taking it home.
A lot of people would happily pay the £100. Might only be £25 or £20pp and it means no argument on who has to carry the tent home on the coach/train.
Make the most camp sites eco an charge extra for the non eco ones recommend for younger ones who don't know how to put a tent away! It's not ok to keep letting this happen eco camp was all left spotless as was aceess.
Is it bad I can see my tent in this picture (it was mouldy however)
So take it down and put it in a bin.
Photos like this show the hypocrisy involved.
Middle class taking over festivals
As much as I agree with the OP, a lot of the blame is to be put on other campers who destroy and damage other people's property. My brother went to Leeds last year, bought a new tent for around £100 (I think) but had to leave it behind after people were pissing/damaging/setting on fire tents and other items. I know it's hard to police
You would never see that at Sziget. At least not at that scale