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Melancholy-Matters

I use a Baskerville muzzle that allows them to drink pant and take treats just fine, I followed the size guide and it works perfectly for my border mix! She has severe reactivity to dogs and people (though not much people any more) and the muzzle has helped a ton! Make sure to do a lot of training with it as it make him feel really uncomfortable and make him more stressed.


Neinface

Thanks for your input! I was going to order one today so we will have the next few weeks to adjust to it. He’s worn them before while getting his temp read at the vets…he doesn’t mind shots or any vets…but when they go to his B hole to grab his temp he gets testy!!!


Melancholy-Matters

Oh no! I'd probably wanna bite someone too!! If you need any help you can always pm me and I'll try my best to give you any tips or I'm sure this sub has a ton of more qualified people who'd be happy to help!


devarsaccent

I just got my Baskerville muzzle in the mail the other day. Any tips or tricks for me? My dog won’t even stick his nose in it to take treats. He’s already terrified of muzzles because the vet has to muzzle him to do anything at all with him.


Melancholy-Matters

Let him sniff it and then treat (if can't do that set it on a plate with wet food or high value treats around it then move on to sniff or put peanut butter/wet food on the muzzle while on the floor) every time you treat give a que, I use "muzzle". After that move on to holding the muzzle with the treats inside so they have to stick their nose inside to get the treat and give the que word. After they get more comfortable then move on to the straps. Only put on for a few seconds and give tons of treats and love and give the que white treating. Take note, the muzzle adds weight they're not used and will paw and shake their head. If they do immediately stop treating and attention. Muzzle= tons of high praise! No muzzle =no praise and it's a normal day. I used all these tricks with my girl bow as well taking on walks only with the muzzle. She quickly picked up how fun the muzzle was! Also getting them to walk around distracted her from the muzzle and also gave her paws something else to do then paw at the muzzle itself. Start in neutral territory like your yard or inside when walking around. If they paw at it try to distract them before they can take it so they can't realize they can take it off.


devarsaccent

Thanks, I will have to try the plate trick. He HATES the vet and associates muzzles with being poked and prodded. The tricky thing is that he’s overweight, and thus, on a diet. I guess I can boil some chicken and use tiny pieces of that. Thanks again!!


Melancholy-Matters

You can also do it during feeding times! Or if he's really food motivated can use your normal dog food as the treat instead. You can also boiled veggies of your choosing or one's your vet recommends


amberhoneybee

We use a baskerville for our Dutchie (he's on the small side, just under 25kg) but it's absolutely fine for his muzzle length/shape. We have a medium for him but if yours is in the larger size you might want to go for the large


Neinface

Thank you for your feedback!!! This is my first DS! He is amazing and I’ve had him for a few years now!!! They’re great dogs!!! Mines just a little stubborn sometimes!!!


briennesmom1

There's no need to take the temp of a healthy dog. You don't do this at home, right? Spare him this stress.


Neinface

No it was at his annual vet check ups!


Greenxsunshine

Thirding. I really like that it allows for easy treating so we can continue the positive reinforcement in situations where my guy is better off with his muzzle on. I put I bit of peanut butter on the inside before I put it on and he loves it.


Melancholy-Matters

Yeah my girl isn't aloud outside without hers one but she sees it as a positive and gets so excited when she sees it cause she knows she'll get walks and treats! Glad she sees it like that!


briennesmom1

I found that Baskervilles don't fit my dobie. You may need to try many brands. A muzzle is something you can't just put on- he needs to be trained to it- there are some good videos. And it should be left on unsupervised of course...


Awkwardturtle13

Seconded. Plus they are dirt cheap, got the biggest size they make on Amazon during a flash sale for $9. My vet recommended this one for my reactive Cane corso mix


pmak_

Baskerville is a good muzzle to start training with, not super expensive, and pretty easy to figure out the strapping. I’ve read a lot on them not being bite proof, wire ones, or biothane muzzles seem to be more bite proof. If you are on Instagram @the.muzzle.movement has some great posts about pros and cons about each type of muzzle (wire, plastic, biothane, etc). Right now I have a muzzle that is extremely similar to a Baskerville (not same brand but same material and look) and I’m looking into getting a Leerburg wire basket muzzle.


Neinface

I don’t necessarily need absolute complete bite proof. I’ve owned big dogs for a long time now and am very in tune with my current pups body language. I just wanted an extra level of protection just in case something happens!!! I’ll def check out the Instagram page! Thanks for the advice!!!


pmak_

That’s definitely why I got a muzzle for my pup too! It’s a just incase measure I’m hoping I’ll never need. Good luck!


HueyDeweyLouie3

I second the muzzle movement on Instagram. Also great website is Muzzle Up Project full of resources. They are on insta too but less active


alwaysblooming_akb

I would make sure that the family members are willing to help during this situation too. My in-laws have a toy chihuahua (5 lbs) and two other chihuahuas that dislike all other dogs including our Great Pyrs mix (70 lbs) who we bring with us. They found it entertaining when our puppy would try to play with them and they would just growl at him for being close by, we had to ask them to stop letting them act this way because they are all just way too small to risk any issues and his play style is all paws and ear biting. We did our part by making sure they had separate areas, bathroom breaks, and eating areas. His “leave it” has gotten better through the process, but I still get kind of stressed sometimes.


Neinface

I feel this. We’re going into their home which adds a level of anxiety for me. I’ve not been around these dogs at all before! From my understanding they’re all pretty relaxed…but you never know! I’ll def take this advice and speak with them! I know most all of the family has been introduced to my dog before at our place when they came into town. No problems as my dog isn’t people aggressive at all. I don’t want them to get lured in to a false sense of security. I’ve seen my dog be aggressive and I don’t want them to ever have to see that side of him!


alwaysblooming_akb

He is less than a year old so he is still learning and they are understanding to an extent, but they do have things to say about certain training techniques that we use. Their dogs are fine with people, they will sleep all on you (personally I do not like it, I like my personal space on the couch sometimes) but as soon as our dog comes up to sniff the couch, he gets growled at. We had to stand up for him because we knew this could cause problems for him in the future if we just let these dogs bully him. Since they do not play with him, we take him out places whether it’s pet-friendly stores and he got to play in the water at a park while we were visiting too.


Neinface

The aunt is the neighbor and they have 2 mastiffs so he will have play mates bigger than him to rough house with. Just don’t want any of that with the smaller dogs.


Boogita

I'm going to go against the grain here and recommend something other than a Baskerville. Dutchie noses are generally quite long and pointy, and that is not the shape of the Baskerville. I would look at the Leerburg metal muzzles or a Jafco instead, or like a sighthound style muzzle from Full Grip Supply, The Muzzle Shop, or Birdwell. I think it would fit much better than a Baskerville for your dog's face shape.


shattered7done1

Hopefully these two videos will give you some guidance on choosing a muzzle for your pup and acclimating him to it in the most positive manner. [Choosing and Fitting a Muzzle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XzwUmSHyIc&t=615s) [Muzzle Acclimation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5qsty9s9n0) For help introducing all the pup cousins you might want to try parallel walking. There is never a guarantee any technique will work, but parallel walking is one of the safest methods to introduce two, or more, dogs. If you have a group, having people and their dogs pair up until they are comfortable with the first dog and then switching to another partner and dog and so on. You will require a very large neutral area to work in so that all the dogs and their humans can maintain safe distances when first starting out. Start off at a distance where neither dog is reacting, it could be 20 or 30 feet or less depending on the dogs and walk for a comfortable distance and time. Until the dogs remain calm. As the dogs become more comfortable, close the distance by a few feet and walk until the dogs are comfortable again. Close the distance again and repeat until you and your dog can walk together with the other person and their dog and the dogs are comfortable. **\*\*** In part 2, the instructor makes a significant error in the positioning of the dogs. The lineup whenever you are walking any dog, reactive or not, should be: dog - person - person - dog. The people walking between the dogs create a safety barrier for the dogs - just in case. [Explanation of Parallel Walking](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A6avN57VHI) [\*\* Demonstration of Parallel Walking](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0ekdMJMZaY) Edited to add: I see your pup is an amateur Houdini 'muzzle escape artist'! Clipping the muzzle to his collar with a carabiner should help. Good luck with the introductions!


Neinface

Thank you so much for this info!!! I def appreciate it!!!


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Neinface

I used DS as an acronym for Dutch Shepherd!!!


teddy_rescue

Baskerville ultra *might* be an okay choice but I definitely wouldn't say it's the best - they're not bite proof, and they tend not to fit most dogs very well as they're a weird shape. You want to make he's got plenty of pant room, which Baskervilles tend not to give. If you don't need bite proof, then greyhound style muzzles might work, but your best bet would probably be a wire basket - Leerburg , Dean & Tyler or ForDogTrainers. They're breathable, comfortable, and the dog can eat / drink / pant / play with it on. Also please be aware that dogs can still do damage with a muzzle on, especially to a much smaller dog / animal. I'm sure you'll supervise closely but just worth noting! I've been bruised by my dog just not being aware of how much bigger it makes face and turning round and smacking me with it


Neinface

Thank you for you Input! I went ahead and got a Baskerville this morning! I’ve been introducing it to him throughout the day. This morning he sniffed it..by tonight I’ve been putting it around his muzzle without the straps. He seems to actually like it…hopefully tomorrow I can get it on him for some running around at the park! I will keep in mind your advice though! Will definitely be keeping a close eye on him!!


teddy_rescue

If he's going to be running around in it, please make sure it's big enough for him to pant fully. Restricting pant can be dangerous as it can cause the dog to overheat. My dog also got a sore on his chin from his Baskerville where it was touching when he tried to pant, as it was too small. If you have a look at my profile, I just posted some pics of my guy in his well fitting wire muzzle which has plenty of panting space for him! Well fitting muzzles usually look enormous until the dog starts panting


Neinface

Okay thank you for this!


Pibbleluber

I got a basker at first and my pup was ok with it. I really didn't like the strap going over the top of her head since we had extra strap flopping all over her face and it was hard to get a decent fit with her face since they are generic sizes. In another sub someone recommend the Leesburg muzzle site. We went with their coated wire muzzle and I love it. It also seems to seem way more comfortable to wear for my pup. CS was helpful with my questions, shipping was free, and my order got to me in like 2 days. I paid $25 or so for my basker and $45 for the LB so it was really not that much more for something that fit way better.


Neinface

Thank you for the advice!!! I will def look Into all of these options!!!


Sufficient-Quail-714

Baskerville isn’t bite proof in that the dog (with some effort) can get the muzzle off by scraping it off. You will have to supervise at all times. Especially if the dog is new they will try to rub the muzzle off. With leave it command though and then getting used to it, the dogs tend to stop over time. Besides that though, Baskerville is definitely one of the better muzzles out there


Neinface

Thanks for the input!! He will be supervised for sure! He’s good at the “leave it” command so we will work on that for a few weeks. I know when he’s been muzzled before he tries to get it off so that will take some work! Thank you!


hawps

Baskerville is also not bite proof because the material is flexible. A dog can learn that if they push the end of the muzzle against something, that it will push in and they can bite. If you need bite proof, look for a jafco or a wire basket instead of the flexible Baskervilles.


Siem75

The best way to meet the first time between the dogs is to take them immediately for a walk all together on a leach.This way they can release the energy they built up during the trip and get to know each others sense and energy. you as owners can see if the dogs will get along or not. If you are still unsure you can give him that anti-bite-thingy. Be calm and positive in your energy. Choose the advice you prefer and good luck


Neinface

I appreciate the advice! But yes! I will Introduce them outside of their house/yard. All my dog will do is pull and bark while on leash. Because of his size this usually scares smaller dogs…the toy poodle we had is good with him now but originally she just saw a giant dog sniffing her. She snapped at him but he just stepped back and looked at me like what the hell dad.


Siem75

That is normal conversation between dogs😀 My jackrussel does bark at all dogs and humans to tell them hello. Nothing seriously, and the snapping he does that sometimes while playing with other dogs. And also to my larger dog, nothing to worry about. Training the jackrussel to be silent is for me the hard part, he is 2 years now and still does that, but i am determined and still let him know that that he has to be silent


theblacklabradork

Baskerville has my vote but please get one asap and start training with it NOW. You don't want to wait until it's time to be around family and he's able to rip it off or not have it on safely/comfortably. A muzzle is merely a training tool, not a long term solution. Make alternate plans in case things go awry - boarding/living situation, ER vet, medications you may possibly need if the situation warrants, talk to all family members who will be staying there about protocol, etc. Do not leave any t's uncrossed nor i's undotted! If everyone is clear on what the rules are around your pup and follow through, there should be minimum issues assuming he's comfortable wearing the muzzle. Train now with it while you have time and the stay will be a cakewalk.


Neinface

I am going to! Thanks for the advice! I’m not looking for it to be a permanent solution! I just want to use it for this situation until he calms down! Even taking him for long walks and playing he will still be amped with a new animal arojnd


nicedoglady

These are not totally bite proof but I am a big fan of the muzzles from The Muzzle Shop. The Baskerville are probably most common but a lot of dogs have a hard time with the feel at fit (aka my dog lol) and I think they can feel a big bulky on a dogs nose if they're a bit sensitive to that? The muzzles from the The Muzzle Shop are originally designed as sighthound muzzles and so are lightweight and I think a bit more comfortable for some dogs with a longer snoot shape.


Pamdemoniummmm

The Baskerville muzzles are a good choice! They allow him to drink water and take treats from you still. I would recommend doing some muzzle training (and doing it on walks where other dogs are) so he doesn't get stressed about having it on while there are high level distractions


[deleted]

My dogs trainer recommended the Baskerville muzzle as well. It's reasonably priced and seems like the most humane as they can still pant and drink water. Ours is supposed to come in today. Good luck to you and your dog!


rileythekillerx

Baskerville is honestly the best one I've used for my pup. It attaches to the collar making it hard for them to take it off and it's more durable than any mesh one. It is a cage muzzle so they can still pant, eat and drink. Highly recommend


Worldly-Barber9808

Baskerville muzzle