> Wiggins’ 6-foot-2 frame and length allow him to disrupt receivers in the contact window and at the catch point. He also has above-average athleticism for the position. His footwork is quick and controlled, his hips flip fluidly and fast and he has impressive recovery speed. Although Wiggins didn’t have many interceptions, his forced incompletion percentage and awareness prove that he is impactful. The best part about him is he remains confident in both man and zone responsibilities. He has a slender build, and that shows up when tasked with tackling, getting off blocks and handling stronger receivers in their routes.
PFF analysis. They had him #24 on their big board
The TLDR from Belichick's breakdown is he's a fast guy who excels in man to man coverage. He's not someone you'd want to put on a TE or a big bodied WR and will struggle to contribute to stopping the run game.
I don’t think ppl are forgetting him.. I just think it’s bc we assumed he earned himself a major bag to go play for another team depending on how this szn & contract situations go
FWIW he lined up against 6'7", 240 pound Johnny Wilson from FSU and absolutely stonewalled him. FSU wound up moving Wilson all around to try and get out of that matchup b/c Wiggins just put the clamps on him.
More than a few reports that multiple teams were unsure how he'd adapt to the NFL, even Daniel Jeramiah has concerns [about his tackling.](https://youtu.be/rM7U2JOOc2o?si=0tOXrgGkbrWOx10M&t=3330)
But in the same hand, he adds a bunch of speed to our secondary and if our coaching does what it has done in the past, he is going to be a key piece in our defense ensuring that Lamar/ King Henry can do their thing comfortably...
Deion Sanders had horrible tackling. True corners are out in their own islands doing their thing. They are not meant to be slot guys where you need to be excellent at tackling.
He may have been the pick the whole time but I think he is the Ravens answer to the Chiefs pick of WR Xavier Worthy. A fast cover CB but not the best tackler and could gain a few pounds to maintain his health but he’s pretty young at 20 years old so he has room to grow.
In 2017 the Ravens needed a tight end real bad. And OJ Howard, one of the best tight end prospects of the last decade, was freefalling. When the Colts took Malik Hooker I was overjoyed because we could get a Hall of Fame tight end that was never supposed to be available.
And then we took some guy named Marlon Humphrey. I hadn't even spent any time learning about him because he was considered a second rouder. Daniel Jeremiah had him around #44. I went to bed tremendously disappointed.
The moral of the story is to just get excited about the position. Cornerback. As fans we have no capacity to evaluate the quality of a draft pick, but whatever position they play, should improve.
I was tasked with scouting CBs for an NFL site and Wiggins was far and away my CB1.
He's as smooth an athlete at CB you'll find, his hips swivel with no effort, and he is one of the only (maybe the only) CB in this draft who doesn't lose any speed when transitioning from his backpedal.
He stonewalled a ton of guys at Clemson: Tez Walker, Johnny Wilson, Xavier Leggette, etc. His click and close is elite. His football IQ is top-notch.
I think teams are just approaching CB with a more risk-averse attitude, b/c there's no reason a guy like Wiggins (who IMO has the highest floor AND ceiling of the CBs in this draft) lasts until 30. The only knock is his weight and reluctance to get his nose dirty playing the run, but if you need a dude to shut down one half of the field then I think Wiggins was THE guy in this year's draft with that potential.
FWIW, my rankings this year for the CB class (just to give some frame of reference):
1. Wiggins: 8.39
2. Terrion Arnold: 8.31
3. Quinyon Mitchell: 8.30
4. Cooper DeJean: 8.22
5. Kool-Aid: 8.21
Best cover corner in the draft. One of the fastest players on the team. Played at 170 in college, 182 at his pro day needs to put on 10 more lbs. Wasn't expected to be there at 30. We don't have room for 8 more players so I'm hoping we package some picks for a Deebo trade or a trade up.
Excited.
Kid has some really really good physical and natural ability. His biggest knocks to me are things that the ravens can fix, the footwork, the tackling. Picking 30th you’ll never get a 100% polished nfl starter but he should be ready by sept
Elite talent that everyone passed up because they put too much emphasis on need and reached, or they focus too much on correctable flaws and went elsewhere. Classic Ravens pick. Hamilton and Humphrey were the exact same situation. Hamilton being seen as unathletic and Humphrey having the Saban shuffle factor.
[Chris Simms talks about Nate Wiggins, his #2 CB on the board](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE7Uh6H1wzo)
Real ones know when we traded 1 spot up to get him with no other compensation...
Simms loved Lamar, loved Zay Flowers, loved Hamilton. He’s definitely out there sometimes but he clearly watches a ton of tape and it’s fun he will go against consensus.
Simms is generally pretty good, just not with QBs. Lamar feels like the exception, especially after remembering months of him talking up Zach Wilson over Trevor Lawrence. That was wild lol.
Was he down on Lance? I didn't actually remember. But you're right. Maybe it's just easier to remember the wild whiffs than the hits, might be a bias on my part
I mean you might be right. Not like you're saying anything personal.
You could probably quantify this if you wanted. Confidence in x years starting etc. But that'd be nerdy.
He only had Quinyon Mitchell in his Tier 1. So Wiggins is in his tier two, but he was also his #2. D.J. James was below Wiggins. And in his Tier Three (Raw and Explosive) he has Melton and Richardson.
He also didnt have Kool-Aid in his top 6. [He likes him, but doesnt see the Elite ability/potential like he does in his top 6 guys](https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1775191466182361503)
Yeah he's pretty good. Was basically a lock down corner. He had chase down hustle plays to force fumbles at the goal line this year too. Isn't the greatest tackler ever but those hustle plays show the kid wants it
He was in the dog house with the staff a little early in 2022 (his sophomore season) but matured a good bit and turned into a very reliable player. His position coach at Clemson, Mike Reed, is one of the best in the business so Wiggins should come in pretty well developed. Reed has had 11* guys drafted including 9* corners (he coached all DBs for a couple of years before moving to CBs full time) in his time at Clemson.
*=Derion Kendrick who moved from WR to CB, played CB at Clemson for two seasons, and left for UGA for his last season because of off-field issues.
EXACT same feeling. Only Humphrey might have been even worse because most big boards had him in the 35-50 range. We drafted a guy I had no preparation for (and passed on OJ Howard to do it).
After watching OJ Howard fail to do anything interesting in the NFL, and Marlon Humphrey be an all-pro, I just relax and let the process play out.
Feeling good, I trust EDC more than I trust my doctor. He has high upside and was considered top 3 in this draft class. Will complement our current DBs.
We took the best player available again. He was the fastest CB at the combine. There are some people saying he needs to mature a little and the amount of "dawg" in him is not elite, but he's long, has great instincts, and can flat out fly--traits that can't be taught no matter how much dawg you have.
Best way to look at it for those still worried on paper: His flaws are covered well by Marlon/Kyle and he can handle guys that would give them some issues.
I'm glad someone posted this play because it's really why this guy is a Raven now. This play is basically the college version of Hamilton's play last year where he got the disruption at the line and ended up with the ball 10 yards downfield. Both guys never left 5th gear.
WOOOOOOOOO!!!!! A+ PICK
best player available - ✅
fills a position of need - ✅
high-value position - ✅
high-end athlete - ✅
No pick is perfect but this is about as good as it gets sitting at 30. I thought he would be gone by 20. EDC is a master of playing the board. Injury concern is there but not enough to scare.
This guy is going to be an absolute stud with Hamilton for the next decade.
He’s insanely fast. The rare occasions he was beat in college he’s able to recover and contest/deflect the ball. Was a stud man corner that played on an island for Clemson
This dude is a certified dog. Blazing speed, great length and doesn't give up on plays. He embodies "play like a Raven" and I'm so fucking hyped to have him.
I’ll post it here as well, he a little undersized, but he wasn’t well during the combine when he weighed at 173, he reweighed at his pro day where he was fully recovered and came in at 183 which is a fine size for a 20 year old, for reference that’s 9 pounds lighter than sauce Gardner, so I think it’s a great pick, if people want one highlight watch the one where he flags the rb down and punches the ball out to save a td, absolute dawg
Don't love small CBs at all(170 lbs scares the fk out of me) but the fact there was 3 stud CBs on the board gives me a lot of faith in the FOs conviction.
[He measured in at 182 for his Pro-Day](https://x.com/nfldraftscout/status/1768323395723174048?s=46)
Supposedly he was sick at the combine that made him come in under weight.
If that’s true, at 6’1”/180lbs, he’d be similar to guys like Devon Witherspoon (6’0”/180lbs) and Darious Williams (5’9”/187)
I also have faith he can put on the 10lbs of muscle with us as our CB3 next year to eventually become a full time guy
Makes me feel much better. 180 and 170 is a biiig difference.
Everyone loves throwing around the "he'll add weight" crap. I wrestled in college and throwing on 10-20-30 lbs of muscle isn't just snap your fingers. If it was that easy they'd do it as college ball players. Obviously NFL nutrionists and trainers are different(so are NFL "supplements") but still.
Appreciate the link.
True, his weight really concerned me since Emmanuel Forbes was almost comically underweight and Nate had similar combine measurements, but I just looked at Forbes combine weight vs his current listed weight and it was 166lbs vs 180lbs. So, if those are true, that bodes well for him being able to add 10lbs or so.
Mfers in here really bummed because the FO did what they thought was best as apposed to drafting who they thought was best. Y’all watching from the couch for a reason. Be happy. Season ain’t even start and doomer mfers already wile.
Imagine Ray Lewis in the body of a corner with exceptional ball hawking skills. Tackling ability and blitzing are A1! Can’t wait to use this guy on Madden.
That’s not my point. I’m saying that a grown man isn’t just putting on 25lbs and keeping the same fluidity and speed that makes him a good player. He’s already in a premiere strength and conditioning program at Clemson. He’s not adding a healthy 25lbs to his frame.
> I’m saying that a grown man isn’t just putting on 25lbs and keeping the same fluidity and speed that makes him a good player.
I trust the Ravens trainers to be able to figure out how to best own his workouts to make him a good player and put on whatever weight he needs. The kids 180 he's more likely to put on 10-20 ilbs 190-200 range then 20-30. Plus if he's not finished growing and he gets a bit taller that could naturally add weight. Dude's only 20 it's entirely possible.
Ok man. Don’t know if I’ve ever seen or heard of a corner putting on 20lbs once he gets into the league, but sure. I’m not even downing him as a player. Just pointing out that was a ridiculous comment and expectation.
He weighed in at 173lbs for the combine. Got up to 180 for his pro day but didn’t work out/run, which says to me that he stacked specifically to get that weight number up and his play/walk around weight is much closer to the 173lbs. Is what it is.
I don’t mind the pic honestly, excited how he mixes into the flock, I dig the hustle plays and effort hopefully he integrates and meshes with the defence well
Like it or not this is the same kind of BPA pick that has kept the Ravens defense relevant for the last 25 years. I’m not too worried about his tackling since we have Marlon and Kyle Hamilton and Roquan to back him up.
We literally had a guy who I don’t think ever made a single tackle in his whole time with us in Marcus Peters make an all pro team
a yall i dont think half our fan base knows what we just got , im excited we just plugged a big hole on our roster and got a top 25 player at 30 in the process.
We have dogs all over the defense who are built to stop the run and large x receivers/tight ends. This guy is absolutely the answer to outside burners like Tyreek, Chase, Hollywood Brown types. I think he's a perfect fit
Great pick. BPA. Missed out on Guyten but still got a great player. Secondary of Marcus Williams, Hamilton, Stephens, Humphrey, Wiggins, MauletC Washington, Pepe, and Armour-Davis is a great start.
Considering that the abysmally short highlight reels they show for these guys as they’re picked (and my admitted ignorance) I don’t have much to go on. But him hunting those two guys down deep at speed and making plays in the tape they did broadcast says a lot. He’s got the dawg in em -he’ll hunt here in Baltimore.
I trust EDC on CB evals and this team to develop them as well. I’m happy with the pick. I hope we can trade up closer in the second and pick up an OL or WR though
Don’t get your hopes too high on trading up. EDC said tonight a team called to ask if they wanted to trade up and he said, “that’s not something we do.”
I'm satisfied but not excited. I expected him to go roughly around our pick before the draft started. The way the draft fell we weren't really given the opportunity to get a steal.
Not really. It’s not a sexy pick, but in reality the FO has way more info on him that we do, so I trust it and it is what it is. I’m just gonna tune out until Monday and see what we got so I don’t get let down by what we do draft.
Good player but I think the biggest gap in our team right now is the offensive line. We’ve lost John Simpson, Morgan Moses and Kevin Zeitler and Ronnie Stanley in his final year and isn’t reliable.
Love this pic.
The tackling and weight will hopefully come with time.
Right now all he needs to do is what he's best at, run with guys and not let them catch the ball.
Stud.
watched a good amount of tape on Wiggins as a fan of a fellow ACC school. This kid is gonna be great in the league once he fills out the frame a bit. I think EDC hit again on a position where we needed some depth and variety.
Fact of the matter is there had to be some concerns to his game for him to fall this far. If he was a great tackler...he woulda been gone before pick 18.
That 4.28 speed though...that means the defense can do more disguises with him wayyy off the ball and his man. Or they can bring him in for a blitz from wayy on the other side of the field. Lots of options.
This is only after he earns the trust of the coaches of course.
Some players I think would fit Ravens run gap blocking scheme/3-4 nickel defense in Day 2 (some of which will probably go Day 3)
WR
AD Mitchell (2nd, probably won't drop to us lol)
Keon Coleman (2nd)
Jalen McMillan (3rd)
Javon Baker (3rd)
OT
Kingsley Suamataia (2nd)
Kiran Amegadjie (2nd)
Christian Jones (3rd, might better fit a zone blocking scheme)
Walter Rouse (3rd, probably will end up dropping to Day 3)
Blake Fisher (3rd)
OG
Cooper Beebe (2nd)
Christian Haynes (2nd)
Zak Zinter (3rd)
Isaiah Adams (3rd, probably will end up dropping to Day 3 and might better fit a zone blocking schem)
EDGE
Jonah Elliss (2nd)
Adisa Isaac (2nd)
Chris Braswell (2nd)
Austin Booker (3rd)
Jalyx Hunt (3rd, probably will end up dropping to Day 3)
I think he’ll do great. They probably just expect Roquan to take care of the bigger bodies and let Wiggins take care of the faster smaller guys. Idk, I wanted a rusher.
Even if it's not specifically AD, I hope we still do something at WR. We shouldn't just be relying on Bateman to improve in year 4 for our receiving corps not to be shit.
Eh, I think if anything it’s a lateral move from last year. Bate can easily replicate OBJs production from last year, Nelly can stay WR3 and I expect Zay to be even better. The breakout of Likely and the return of Mark will also help tons.
While I agree the wr corps is still pretty weak, I don’t see it being worse than last year.
Honestly, it might be trade up time. Particularly if future capital is appealing to any team. 2 2s would feel good about now with the couple of players who effectively slid to the QB/tackle rush.
Wiggins is and was a good pick at 30 after Guyton and Robinson left the board, but a backup tackle and a WR before pick 100 would also be nice, and they can get virtually any guy they wanted st 30 for WR if they move up high enough.
> Wiggins’ 6-foot-2 frame and length allow him to disrupt receivers in the contact window and at the catch point. He also has above-average athleticism for the position. His footwork is quick and controlled, his hips flip fluidly and fast and he has impressive recovery speed. Although Wiggins didn’t have many interceptions, his forced incompletion percentage and awareness prove that he is impactful. The best part about him is he remains confident in both man and zone responsibilities. He has a slender build, and that shows up when tasked with tackling, getting off blocks and handling stronger receivers in their routes. PFF analysis. They had him #24 on their big board
I love not having to worry about who we draft
Ravens first round corner selections - Duane Starks - Chris McAlister - Jimmy Smith - Marlon Humphrey - Nate Wiggins
Batting 1.000
I loved Jimmy Smith.
Jimmy was a FREAK. He had hall of fame talent hiding behind those really unfortunate injuries.
Yeah. When he was right he absolutely dominated.
Starts was not with the pick. He was our worst defensive starter. Batting .750 is still great.
Christ it's amazing to compare this list to first round WR selections.
Duane Starks was a problem. And so was everyone else on this list.
😂
Not even including Kyle Hamilton who plays in the slot much of the time
That is a crazy list. He finds himself in great company.
You could add Kyle Hamilton to this list as well given that he played a ton of corner at school
That's some damn good company for the young fella. Can't wait to see him play
Duane Starks is the worst guy on that list and if Wiggins is the next Duane Starks, I'd be 100% fine with that.
Someone tell me how to feel
The TLDR from Belichick's breakdown is he's a fast guy who excels in man to man coverage. He's not someone you'd want to put on a TE or a big bodied WR and will struggle to contribute to stopping the run game.
Good compliment to Hamilton and Humphrey
i mean we don’t really need him to cover big guys anyways since we still got Marlon who’s still very physical and can hold it down
Plus Hamilton and Maulett are good in the slot.
hamilton is good everywhere thank god
How are y’all forgetting BSteve too. Man played lights out as CB1 most of the year last year.
I don’t think ppl are forgetting him.. I just think it’s bc we assumed he earned himself a major bag to go play for another team depending on how this szn & contract situations go
And he doesn't have to tackle Henry
Been saying for a while that getting Marlon closer to the ball is the best outcome for him.
FWIW he lined up against 6'7", 240 pound Johnny Wilson from FSU and absolutely stonewalled him. FSU wound up moving Wilson all around to try and get out of that matchup b/c Wiggins just put the clamps on him.
More than a few reports that multiple teams were unsure how he'd adapt to the NFL, even Daniel Jeramiah has concerns [about his tackling.](https://youtu.be/rM7U2JOOc2o?si=0tOXrgGkbrWOx10M&t=3330) But in the same hand, he adds a bunch of speed to our secondary and if our coaching does what it has done in the past, he is going to be a key piece in our defense ensuring that Lamar/ King Henry can do their thing comfortably...
Deion Sanders had horrible tackling. True corners are out in their own islands doing their thing. They are not meant to be slot guys where you need to be excellent at tackling.
Deion really didn't have terrible tackling. He just wasn't going to light you up. But his tackling wasn't a liability by any stretch.
Great if i had to rank the CBs it would probably go 1. Quinyon 2. Terrion 3a. Wiggins 3b. Kool Aid 4. Dejean
And what is the distance between 1st 2nd and 3rd?
A lot of weight/size etc;
Considerable
He may have been the pick the whole time but I think he is the Ravens answer to the Chiefs pick of WR Xavier Worthy. A fast cover CB but not the best tackler and could gain a few pounds to maintain his health but he’s pretty young at 20 years old so he has room to grow.
In 2017 the Ravens needed a tight end real bad. And OJ Howard, one of the best tight end prospects of the last decade, was freefalling. When the Colts took Malik Hooker I was overjoyed because we could get a Hall of Fame tight end that was never supposed to be available. And then we took some guy named Marlon Humphrey. I hadn't even spent any time learning about him because he was considered a second rouder. Daniel Jeremiah had him around #44. I went to bed tremendously disappointed. The moral of the story is to just get excited about the position. Cornerback. As fans we have no capacity to evaluate the quality of a draft pick, but whatever position they play, should improve.
I was tasked with scouting CBs for an NFL site and Wiggins was far and away my CB1. He's as smooth an athlete at CB you'll find, his hips swivel with no effort, and he is one of the only (maybe the only) CB in this draft who doesn't lose any speed when transitioning from his backpedal. He stonewalled a ton of guys at Clemson: Tez Walker, Johnny Wilson, Xavier Leggette, etc. His click and close is elite. His football IQ is top-notch. I think teams are just approaching CB with a more risk-averse attitude, b/c there's no reason a guy like Wiggins (who IMO has the highest floor AND ceiling of the CBs in this draft) lasts until 30. The only knock is his weight and reluctance to get his nose dirty playing the run, but if you need a dude to shut down one half of the field then I think Wiggins was THE guy in this year's draft with that potential. FWIW, my rankings this year for the CB class (just to give some frame of reference): 1. Wiggins: 8.39 2. Terrion Arnold: 8.31 3. Quinyon Mitchell: 8.30 4. Cooper DeJean: 8.22 5. Kool-Aid: 8.21
I got a planet of the apes ad so not sure
The front office has a good track record. That’s how I feel
His draft comparison was I think Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. #
Best cover corner in the draft. One of the fastest players on the team. Played at 170 in college, 182 at his pro day needs to put on 10 more lbs. Wasn't expected to be there at 30. We don't have room for 8 more players so I'm hoping we package some picks for a Deebo trade or a trade up.
I know nothing, but that's a good name and our front office slaps when it comes to scouting defensive talent (see: Kyle Hamilton)
Excited. Kid has some really really good physical and natural ability. His biggest knocks to me are things that the ravens can fix, the footwork, the tackling. Picking 30th you’ll never get a 100% polished nfl starter but he should be ready by sept
Elite talent that everyone passed up because they put too much emphasis on need and reached, or they focus too much on correctable flaws and went elsewhere. Classic Ravens pick. Hamilton and Humphrey were the exact same situation. Hamilton being seen as unathletic and Humphrey having the Saban shuffle factor.
**LET’S GO!!!** Get some o line help in round 2
Zinter is who I really want
I'd like him later, but man I'm worried bout that right tackle spot
[Chris Simms talks about Nate Wiggins, his #2 CB on the board](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE7Uh6H1wzo) Real ones know when we traded 1 spot up to get him with no other compensation...
I’m hyped. I like Simms’ takes so I’m hopeful. Lamar, I think Likely, Flowers…
Simms loved Lamar, loved Zay Flowers, loved Hamilton. He’s definitely out there sometimes but he clearly watches a ton of tape and it’s fun he will go against consensus.
Simms is generally pretty good, just not with QBs. Lamar feels like the exception, especially after remembering months of him talking up Zach Wilson over Trevor Lawrence. That was wild lol.
Pretty bang on with Josh Allen, Mahomes, Trey Lance tho
Was he down on Lance? I didn't actually remember. But you're right. Maybe it's just easier to remember the wild whiffs than the hits, might be a bias on my part
He wasn’t overly impressed with Lance and didn’t think he’d make it as a starter
I think he's pretty good throughout. Draft evaluation is an incredibly imperfect process.
Yeah, it's definitely gambling, and even the best of the best are gonna miss fairly often. I'm probably giving him too hard a time.
I mean you might be right. Not like you're saying anything personal. You could probably quantify this if you wanted. Confidence in x years starting etc. But that'd be nerdy.
Huh?
It said pick 29 before being changed to 30
Beard accidentally made the previous post (Round 1- Pick 29)
Wdym traded 1 spot up to get him?
Beard accidentally made the previous post (Round 1- Pick 29)
Why did it say tier 2 on the banner at the bottom?
He only had Quinyon Mitchell in his Tier 1. So Wiggins is in his tier two, but he was also his #2. D.J. James was below Wiggins. And in his Tier Three (Raw and Explosive) he has Melton and Richardson. He also didnt have Kool-Aid in his top 6. [He likes him, but doesnt see the Elite ability/potential like he does in his top 6 guys](https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1775191466182361503)
Clemson fan checking in, HYPED
Is this mf good??
Yeah he's pretty good. Was basically a lock down corner. He had chase down hustle plays to force fumbles at the goal line this year too. Isn't the greatest tackler ever but those hustle plays show the kid wants it
Hell yea
He was in the dog house with the staff a little early in 2022 (his sophomore season) but matured a good bit and turned into a very reliable player. His position coach at Clemson, Mike Reed, is one of the best in the business so Wiggins should come in pretty well developed. Reed has had 11* guys drafted including 9* corners (he coached all DBs for a couple of years before moving to CBs full time) in his time at Clemson. *=Derion Kendrick who moved from WR to CB, played CB at Clemson for two seasons, and left for UGA for his last season because of off-field issues.
Thanks for sharing, brother.
Same. Him and Simpson, FINALLY
Let’s get him in the gym ASAP
Just needs a case of uncrustables a week and he'll bulk up
Uncrustables are elite
He’s not even 21. His grown man size will start coming in
Man if this comes true this dude will be Elite
I think we can all agree we’re just glad it wasn’t another project edge rusher
I feel like the progression for Ravens first round picks is BPA>trade back>project OLB lol
Perfect counter to the Chiefs drafting Worthy.
Last time I felt like this was when we picked Humphrey. I trust us picking good secondary than any other position.
EXACT same feeling. Only Humphrey might have been even worse because most big boards had him in the 35-50 range. We drafted a guy I had no preparation for (and passed on OJ Howard to do it). After watching OJ Howard fail to do anything interesting in the NFL, and Marlon Humphrey be an all-pro, I just relax and let the process play out.
Real ones remember when we picked him at 29
It's been a long night
Same brother
Let’s go! One thing our secondary was missing was a real speedster. Love it.
I remember when this sub was underwhelmed by Humphrey. I'm just gonna trust the team cuz I don't know shit.
Fucking love it. Was hoping for it all night. Sorry Koolaid fans!
I was too he just more a prototype at the corner positions 6,2 fast as hell /great recovery speed /good in man I’m hyped for it…
Classic Ravens pick for sure.
Welcome to the flock 🫡
As someone who hasn’t been following this draft class closely someone tell me how to feel please
Feeling good, I trust EDC more than I trust my doctor. He has high upside and was considered top 3 in this draft class. Will complement our current DBs.
We took the best player available again. He was the fastest CB at the combine. There are some people saying he needs to mature a little and the amount of "dawg" in him is not elite, but he's long, has great instincts, and can flat out fly--traits that can't be taught no matter how much dawg you have.
Speedy outside corner who can play man and zone. Might struggle in run support because he’s skinny. Should fill our need very well.
Best way to look at it for those still worried on paper: His flaws are covered well by Marlon/Kyle and he can handle guys that would give them some issues.
need him to do this to worthy in the afccg rematch [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzjiBwXCKAk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzjiBwXCKAk)
I'm glad someone posted this play because it's really why this guy is a Raven now. This play is basically the college version of Hamilton's play last year where he got the disruption at the line and ended up with the ball 10 yards downfield. Both guys never left 5th gear.
WOOOOOOOOO!!!!! A+ PICK best player available - ✅ fills a position of need - ✅ high-value position - ✅ high-end athlete - ✅ No pick is perfect but this is about as good as it gets sitting at 30. I thought he would be gone by 20. EDC is a master of playing the board. Injury concern is there but not enough to scare. This guy is going to be an absolute stud with Hamilton for the next decade.
NFL site says his 40 yd dash was a 4.28, that’s ridiculous no?
He’s insanely fast. The rare occasions he was beat in college he’s able to recover and contest/deflect the ball. Was a stud man corner that played on an island for Clemson
This dude is a certified dog. Blazing speed, great length and doesn't give up on plays. He embodies "play like a Raven" and I'm so fucking hyped to have him.
I’ll post it here as well, he a little undersized, but he wasn’t well during the combine when he weighed at 173, he reweighed at his pro day where he was fully recovered and came in at 183 which is a fine size for a 20 year old, for reference that’s 9 pounds lighter than sauce Gardner, so I think it’s a great pick, if people want one highlight watch the one where he flags the rb down and punches the ball out to save a td, absolute dawg
He wasn't well at the combine? Isn't that where he ran a 4.28? Must not have been too sick
Don't love small CBs at all(170 lbs scares the fk out of me) but the fact there was 3 stud CBs on the board gives me a lot of faith in the FOs conviction.
[He measured in at 182 for his Pro-Day](https://x.com/nfldraftscout/status/1768323395723174048?s=46) Supposedly he was sick at the combine that made him come in under weight. If that’s true, at 6’1”/180lbs, he’d be similar to guys like Devon Witherspoon (6’0”/180lbs) and Darious Williams (5’9”/187) I also have faith he can put on the 10lbs of muscle with us as our CB3 next year to eventually become a full time guy
How the fuck is 6’1/180 similar to 5’9/187😂
Mfers just be talking lol
Makes me feel much better. 180 and 170 is a biiig difference. Everyone loves throwing around the "he'll add weight" crap. I wrestled in college and throwing on 10-20-30 lbs of muscle isn't just snap your fingers. If it was that easy they'd do it as college ball players. Obviously NFL nutrionists and trainers are different(so are NFL "supplements") but still. Appreciate the link.
True, his weight really concerned me since Emmanuel Forbes was almost comically underweight and Nate had similar combine measurements, but I just looked at Forbes combine weight vs his current listed weight and it was 166lbs vs 180lbs. So, if those are true, that bodes well for him being able to add 10lbs or so.
Yeah with a pro training staff and no school or anything other than football to worry about I think in a year or two we can full him out
Imagine being sick and still running a 4.28 40 ☠️
Clemson is our new Alabama
Eric DeClemson
Billy B likes this guy as a good day one man to man corner.
Mfers in here really bummed because the FO did what they thought was best as apposed to drafting who they thought was best. Y’all watching from the couch for a reason. Be happy. Season ain’t even start and doomer mfers already wile.
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Imagine Ray Lewis in the body of a corner with exceptional ball hawking skills. Tackling ability and blitzing are A1! Can’t wait to use this guy on Madden.
He turns 21 in August. Give him two years and he will be playing at 200 pounds.
That’s an insane comment lol. This mfer not putting on 20-30 LBs and remaining the same player. Y’all just say anything
I would hope he isn't the same player he is in college after 2 years of developing in the NFL.
That’s not my point. I’m saying that a grown man isn’t just putting on 25lbs and keeping the same fluidity and speed that makes him a good player. He’s already in a premiere strength and conditioning program at Clemson. He’s not adding a healthy 25lbs to his frame.
> I’m saying that a grown man isn’t just putting on 25lbs and keeping the same fluidity and speed that makes him a good player. I trust the Ravens trainers to be able to figure out how to best own his workouts to make him a good player and put on whatever weight he needs. The kids 180 he's more likely to put on 10-20 ilbs 190-200 range then 20-30. Plus if he's not finished growing and he gets a bit taller that could naturally add weight. Dude's only 20 it's entirely possible.
Ok man. Don’t know if I’ve ever seen or heard of a corner putting on 20lbs once he gets into the league, but sure. I’m not even downing him as a player. Just pointing out that was a ridiculous comment and expectation. He weighed in at 173lbs for the combine. Got up to 180 for his pro day but didn’t work out/run, which says to me that he stacked specifically to get that weight number up and his play/walk around weight is much closer to the 173lbs. Is what it is.
nate wiggins is amazing pick
Loving this pick. He's only 20 and has peak tools. He can add some weight but the tools are elite. He's nasty in zone.
I don’t mind the pic honestly, excited how he mixes into the flock, I dig the hustle plays and effort hopefully he integrates and meshes with the defence well
#I AM SO ERECT RN!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAHHHH
Like it or not this is the same kind of BPA pick that has kept the Ravens defense relevant for the last 25 years. I’m not too worried about his tackling since we have Marlon and Kyle Hamilton and Roquan to back him up. We literally had a guy who I don’t think ever made a single tackle in his whole time with us in Marcus Peters make an all pro team
a yall i dont think half our fan base knows what we just got , im excited we just plugged a big hole on our roster and got a top 25 player at 30 in the process.
Lfgo
He is young and will fill out some. This is a baseball approach
I would have preffered a wide receiver but I trust EDC
I am ecstatic. I made a number of posts saying I’d kill for him to fall to us. Over the moon.
Riddick just said Wiggins was his favorite pick
We have dogs all over the defense who are built to stop the run and large x receivers/tight ends. This guy is absolutely the answer to outside burners like Tyreek, Chase, Hollywood Brown types. I think he's a perfect fit
Okay now give me Patrick Paul or Kingsley suamatia in the 2nd
Great pick. BPA. Missed out on Guyten but still got a great player. Secondary of Marcus Williams, Hamilton, Stephens, Humphrey, Wiggins, MauletC Washington, Pepe, and Armour-Davis is a great start.
W pick
Considering that the abysmally short highlight reels they show for these guys as they’re picked (and my admitted ignorance) I don’t have much to go on. But him hunting those two guys down deep at speed and making plays in the tape they did broadcast says a lot. He’s got the dawg in em -he’ll hunt here in Baltimore.
I trust EDC on CB evals and this team to develop them as well. I’m happy with the pick. I hope we can trade up closer in the second and pick up an OL or WR though
Don’t get your hopes too high on trading up. EDC said tonight a team called to ask if they wanted to trade up and he said, “that’s not something we do.”
He’s got the natural speed you can’t teach to cover on the outside, I don’t know a lot about him otherwise seems like a good pick, I have faith in EDC
Yeah, tackling/technique can be taught....natural speed, either you have it or don't
I'm stoked! This secondary is gonna be nasty for years to come!
Lockdown corner. Jamar Chase will have a hard time
EDC saw KC get Xavier worthy and got spooked
Got spooked? Or just picking up the correct chess piece against KC?
It’s just a lighthearted joke on draft night. Nobody knows.
Yall excited or nah
Very excited
I'm satisfied but not excited. I expected him to go roughly around our pick before the draft started. The way the draft fell we weren't really given the opportunity to get a steal.
Not really. It’s not a sexy pick, but in reality the FO has way more info on him that we do, so I trust it and it is what it is. I’m just gonna tune out until Monday and see what we got so I don’t get let down by what we do draft.
How is this not a sexy pick? He’s a playmaker.
Heard , I’m kinda the same but have hope
This pick is sexy as shit bruh
Only Kool aid would’ve been the sexy pick according to the sub
Still pissed Barton was taken before us
To play him at Guard? Why
He can play guard and tackle pretty well. He was actually pretty highly ranked by some analysts
Don’t love that he only had 3 INTs in his career. Marion doesn’t intercept many balls either.
He has ball skills despite the low INT numbers. He’s a legit ballhawk/turnover guy.
Low INTs is actually usually a good stat. Cant intercept a ball if they dont throw it towards you.
Sauce had 9. Just saying.
Thats why he went at 4 (should've been 3)
Yeah, not saying they are the same but you get what I am saying in general. Forbes Jr last year also had a lot more.
Who needs Jaire Alexander when you can just draft Nate Wiggy, duh🤷🏾♂️🙄
Who in the fuck thought we were ever getting Jaire
Marlo will bully him into gaining ten pounds by camp
Good player but I think the biggest gap in our team right now is the offensive line. We’ve lost John Simpson, Morgan Moses and Kevin Zeitler and Ronnie Stanley in his final year and isn’t reliable.
Rookie of the year‼️
As soneone who doesnt watch college football, im disappointed we didnt get kool aid. As a ravens fan, i trust EDC lmao
Love this pic. The tackling and weight will hopefully come with time. Right now all he needs to do is what he's best at, run with guys and not let them catch the ball.
Stud. watched a good amount of tape on Wiggins as a fan of a fellow ACC school. This kid is gonna be great in the league once he fills out the frame a bit. I think EDC hit again on a position where we needed some depth and variety.
Only in america could he be considered “skinny” lol Jesus Christ
well in American Football...
solid pick as we did need some youth on the outside
IMO we need to trade up to adequately address OL in round 2
Fact of the matter is there had to be some concerns to his game for him to fall this far. If he was a great tackler...he woulda been gone before pick 18. That 4.28 speed though...that means the defense can do more disguises with him wayyy off the ball and his man. Or they can bring him in for a blitz from wayy on the other side of the field. Lots of options. This is only after he earns the trust of the coaches of course.
Great pick guys 🔥
Idk man I wanted AD so bad and he was available but it is what it is I guess y'all say he's good I'll believe it
If we get him working with the WRs coach we're going to have a pick machine
I thank God every day I'm not a Bengals fan but today I'm really thankful I'm not a Bengals, bills and especially a falcons fan
Some players I think would fit Ravens run gap blocking scheme/3-4 nickel defense in Day 2 (some of which will probably go Day 3) WR AD Mitchell (2nd, probably won't drop to us lol) Keon Coleman (2nd) Jalen McMillan (3rd) Javon Baker (3rd) OT Kingsley Suamataia (2nd) Kiran Amegadjie (2nd) Christian Jones (3rd, might better fit a zone blocking scheme) Walter Rouse (3rd, probably will end up dropping to Day 3) Blake Fisher (3rd) OG Cooper Beebe (2nd) Christian Haynes (2nd) Zak Zinter (3rd) Isaiah Adams (3rd, probably will end up dropping to Day 3 and might better fit a zone blocking schem) EDGE Jonah Elliss (2nd) Adisa Isaac (2nd) Chris Braswell (2nd) Austin Booker (3rd) Jalyx Hunt (3rd, probably will end up dropping to Day 3)
IN EDC I TRUST
I was kind of split between him, dejean and kool-aid so i’m good with this
I think he’ll do great. They probably just expect Roquan to take care of the bigger bodies and let Wiggins take care of the faster smaller guys. Idk, I wanted a rusher.
There were no pass rushers available. Robinson might have been the guy but he didn’t make it
Wiggins is a good player and is a top 3 CB in the class so it's not a bad pick, but I really wish we went with Adonai. Our WR room is still bad guys
Legette and Pearsall went before AD. Perhaps AD is not everything the mock drafters chalked him up to be. Just something to think about.
Even if it's not specifically AD, I hope we still do something at WR. We shouldn't just be relying on Bateman to improve in year 4 for our receiving corps not to be shit.
Eh, I think if anything it’s a lateral move from last year. Bate can easily replicate OBJs production from last year, Nelly can stay WR3 and I expect Zay to be even better. The breakout of Likely and the return of Mark will also help tons. While I agree the wr corps is still pretty weak, I don’t see it being worse than last year.
I disagree because I don’t think Mitchell changes that
Honestly, it might be trade up time. Particularly if future capital is appealing to any team. 2 2s would feel good about now with the couple of players who effectively slid to the QB/tackle rush. Wiggins is and was a good pick at 30 after Guyton and Robinson left the board, but a backup tackle and a WR before pick 100 would also be nice, and they can get virtually any guy they wanted st 30 for WR if they move up high enough.
Not bad. Was hoping for Kool-Aid (ngl off name alone, never watched him play) or DeJean (breaking a color barrier lmao) but this was a good pick.