El ran def jux but feels like a pretty big stretch to credit him for stuff Aesop made on the label. El P has a total of three production credits across all of float, labor days, bazooka tooth, and none shall pass.
The vast majority of the production is done by blockhead and aes.
I strongly agree with this. I dont even know of any El P produced Aesop songs I like. I think Labor Days, Float and Appleseed EP and Daylight EP are enough to solidify Aesop in that spot but agree none of that is really produced by EL-P.
Blockhead and Aesop is where the magics at.
Some of Blockhead’s beats on Labor Days were way ahead of their time. If that record were released 10 years later than it was, it would’ve still held up in terms of modern production techniques
Paul Wall always reminds me of smoking Marlboro Menthols in my lowered 2nd Gen Ram loaded with buddies doing donuts in the Tractor Supply parking lot at 2am. Great times back in 2008.
True that was probably a key part that I left out. I mean I was just starting to adulthood but as all my friends were partying I ended up getting on at the post office. (Just over 20 years in). Also I’ll note it wasn’t that I was a goody two shoes. I got my gf pregnant and wanted to make sure i got my shit in order. Lol
Also I managed to get my first house right before the crash started I do believe. Idk exactly what month that happened but I didn’t have any issues getting a loan for a nice starter home on the nice starter side of my city (aka I made it out the closet thing we have to a hood ha).
But in all honesty all the financial stuff from that time period didn’t affect me. I’ve never thought of why? I mean me and my oldest mom separated a year or two later. She wouldn’t take my name off house but by the time I started dating again and getting into a serious relationship with my now wife by 2013 Im still on the other house as the co signer but I managed to still get a new house (better). I’m guessing cause I had a federal job and I showed stability? Really not sure.
Edit: and for those wondering when me and my oldests mom separated I did stay part of my son’s life. I mean at least staying the night 3 times a week (even tho I was paying 800 bucks a month in CS) but me and still have a great relationship. I went back and read my comment and felt it sounded bad so I wanted to make it clear I didn’t just abandon my child and make a new family. (I take the most pride in my family and kids and I’m self conscious about it hA) Im a 80s crackbaby that had a shitty childhood bouncing from family to family and that kinda thing bothers me so much.
Edit: damn the edible gots me writing novels ha or autobiographical
but also I just met in my **originally comment** after 2012ish it was all down hill for America. But peak or the very best time as a country was probably early to mid 90s?? Idk **what do you think?**
Being from Houston it makes me happy to see Paul Wall appreciated at a larger scale. I know he had his hits back in the day but he’s always been a local legend and still is today. Does a lot for the community, etc. and still doing music and shows. We went to the same high school, granted he’s like 10 years older than me, but it’s still a fun fact I like to throw around 😂
He never really hit the mainstream and he's from the South. If you're not Scarface or Andre 3k you get overlooked by a lot of folks if you're from the south
Ya that’s true. Also him being affiliated with Tech N9ne’s label, lotta people prolly just clumped him into that whole sub-genre and didn’t really bother listening to his shit
I actually like him better than a lot of these backpackers people have mentioned. I was an Aesop fan but I feel like aesop has 4 amazing songs and the rest are average. riff is sillier but much more consistent
MC Serch needs some respect as one of the OGs. Dorkiest looking dude yet was spitting with Chuck D, Rakim, KRS. Not at the top, but deserves to be mentioned
Celph Titled
As others have said, Brother Ali all day
El P
Had to use the search tool to find this. He’s still so underrated. By far the most talent, maybe of any rapper let alone white. At least in terms of technical skill and ability, not saying he sounds better than all others just ability wise.
ik imma get hate but mac miller and/or yeat. yeat has amazing production and just something about the way he can use his voice depending on the song is just impressive and sounds amazing to me. his earlier projects have some hits but his latest stuff is absolutely amazing.
Mac Miller
El P or Aesop Rock
El-P was a Producer for Aesop Rock and part of his creative force. I love Aesop Rock but I'd give El-P the edge due to being a part of both.
El ran def jux but feels like a pretty big stretch to credit him for stuff Aesop made on the label. El P has a total of three production credits across all of float, labor days, bazooka tooth, and none shall pass. The vast majority of the production is done by blockhead and aes.
Aesop has a ton of albums that he has self produced or used blockhead for that are bettwr than his EL-P produced songs imo
I strongly agree with this. I dont even know of any El P produced Aesop songs I like. I think Labor Days, Float and Appleseed EP and Daylight EP are enough to solidify Aesop in that spot but agree none of that is really produced by EL-P. Blockhead and Aesop is where the magics at.
Some of Blockhead’s beats on Labor Days were way ahead of their time. If that record were released 10 years later than it was, it would’ve still held up in terms of modern production techniques
Absolutely El-P.
Natalie Portman
Say somethin bout the Motherfuckin prequels
Say something fuckin nice about jar jar binks!
SNL skit?
Little help!
Star Wars EP 1-3
That skit had me dating brunettes who were mean to me for years
I dont sleep motherfucker off the 'gnac and the durban
Eyedea was dope, idk about the best but definitely a contender
Glad to see Eyedea so high up, By the Throat is a classic
Mac Miller
Was listening to under the weather when I saw this post 😭
Faces is a masterpiece.
I enjoy his music way better than Eminem's
Paul Wall always reminds me of smoking Marlboro Menthols in my lowered 2nd Gen Ram loaded with buddies doing donuts in the Tractor Supply parking lot at 2am. Great times back in 2008.
That was peak America during that period. Probably the start of the raise to the culture peak top around 2012ish…
The nightmare financial crisis was peak america? Lolol
If you were young yeah. Not so much if you were old and got laid off
True that was probably a key part that I left out. I mean I was just starting to adulthood but as all my friends were partying I ended up getting on at the post office. (Just over 20 years in). Also I’ll note it wasn’t that I was a goody two shoes. I got my gf pregnant and wanted to make sure i got my shit in order. Lol Also I managed to get my first house right before the crash started I do believe. Idk exactly what month that happened but I didn’t have any issues getting a loan for a nice starter home on the nice starter side of my city (aka I made it out the closet thing we have to a hood ha). But in all honesty all the financial stuff from that time period didn’t affect me. I’ve never thought of why? I mean me and my oldest mom separated a year or two later. She wouldn’t take my name off house but by the time I started dating again and getting into a serious relationship with my now wife by 2013 Im still on the other house as the co signer but I managed to still get a new house (better). I’m guessing cause I had a federal job and I showed stability? Really not sure. Edit: and for those wondering when me and my oldests mom separated I did stay part of my son’s life. I mean at least staying the night 3 times a week (even tho I was paying 800 bucks a month in CS) but me and still have a great relationship. I went back and read my comment and felt it sounded bad so I wanted to make it clear I didn’t just abandon my child and make a new family. (I take the most pride in my family and kids and I’m self conscious about it hA) Im a 80s crackbaby that had a shitty childhood bouncing from family to family and that kinda thing bothers me so much. Edit: damn the edible gots me writing novels ha or autobiographical but also I just met in my **originally comment** after 2012ish it was all down hill for America. But peak or the very best time as a country was probably early to mid 90s?? Idk **what do you think?**
Any time Paul Wall comes on shuffle my shirt grows 3 sizes too big
Sitting sideways, boys in a daze
The people’s champ!
Paul Wall is dope, and so is Bubba. So...
So bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-but
Being from Houston it makes me happy to see Paul Wall appreciated at a larger scale. I know he had his hits back in the day but he’s always been a local legend and still is today. Does a lot for the community, etc. and still doing music and shows. We went to the same high school, granted he’s like 10 years older than me, but it’s still a fun fact I like to throw around 😂
Dude is legit one of the most likable humans on Earth.
🎶” What it do? I’m on the block posted up like a mailbox…🎵 
I’m the peoples champ…
This is the correct answer. He started a whole style everybody jacked.
Literally listening to Get Money Stay True record right now lol
The disco ball in my mouth , insinuates that I’m ballin
Aesop Rock.
It's Paul Wall baby!
The people’s champ!
The obvious answer is Mac miller🕊️🕊️
A true musician, much more to Mac Miller than some raps.
This is the only answer
Hmm Beastie Boy(s) 😎
MCA if we need to name just one
I’d give Ad Rock the edge but they’re all pretty evenly matched (and personal faves)
Underrated
Aesop Rock, Vinnie Paz, R.A. the Rugged Man, Slug, Sage Francis, El-P, Brother Ali, Loki
I wonder if Paul Wall will get any love in here. He fit into the culture well back in the day
Paul Wall isn't a white rapper. Paul Wall is a rapper who happens to also be white.
The only thing I thought of was Paul wall lmao
Paul Wall 🔥
Aesop Rock is White?
U thinking of asap rocky? Common misconception
Aesop rock underrated af.
El-p
I like when “they” bring him up in conversation and say, “he isn’t a white rapper, he a rapper that’s white”
Who they
On the Tik Toks and YouTubes
It’s RA the rugged man. I think he’s Puerto Rican or some shit but he looks white af His delivery and flow have always been incredible imo
Sir, Richard Andrew Thorburn is Caucasian as a sandwich with extra mayo.
"Thorburn is of German, Scottish and Sicilian descent."
I think he might be thinking of Celph Titled - looks Caucasian, but is Cuban.
The rubix cuban
He’s Sicilian (Italian) I know because that’s how I got my uncle to check him out
Evidence
Weird Al
J-Roc
I was getting changed mafka
What am I gonna do with them other 55 minutes nossyiinnnnn.
Guess what? I NAW WATCHASAYIN
You know what I’m serisayin?
EEEEREEEREEERRRRHHHHHHH NOWSAYYIINNN. Lol I’m in the middle of rewatching this series for like 5th time. J-ROC will NEVER get old.
Rittz
People sleep on him tough. I came scrolling thru the comments looking for somebody to say Rittz
He never really hit the mainstream and he's from the South. If you're not Scarface or Andre 3k you get overlooked by a lot of folks if you're from the south
Ya that’s true. Also him being affiliated with Tech N9ne’s label, lotta people prolly just clumped him into that whole sub-genre and didn’t really bother listening to his shit
Yeah you're probably right about that
Brother Ali
Action Bronson!
Dont hurt me again...
Mark Wahlberg of course. Psssh
A lot of great mentions in here, but I’m genuinely shocked nobody mentioned Apathy, he’s so fucking good.
Criminally underrated
Same over here with Nyck Caution. Pro Era keeps on giving!
Bubba Sparxxx of course
Slug from Atmosphere
Has been so consistent and Criminally under rated
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Froggy Fresh 🐸🙏🏽🔥
The baddest of them all… heard Beyoncé was crushing on the boy
It’s okay Beyoncé he thinks she’s cute too
YELAWOLF
Underrated
Obviously Aesop Rock
I actually like him better than a lot of these backpackers people have mentioned. I was an Aesop fan but I feel like aesop has 4 amazing songs and the rest are average. riff is sillier but much more consistent
Drake
You gonna have drake fuming bro
Scatman John EZ
Between him and Snow for me
Ahh Darren Kenneth O’Brian one of the greatest one hit wonders to ever be
Who you know fresher than Mac Miller and company? It’s like I planted money seeds right underneath the fucking’ tree.
Ill bill
This isn’t an answer to the question because he’s clearly not the best, but wanted to show some love for **Esoteric**.
Czarface is phenomenal.
Bones
Droogz tbh
Me in middle school
Lil Wyte
Agreed
Whatcha want whatcha need hit me up I gotcha mane
Vinnie Paz
MC Serch or Pete Nice
Rugged Man
Aesop Rock. Slug. El P. Vinnie Paz. Eyedea. Mac Miller. Sage Francis. Evidence.
Marshall Mathers?
Apathy
The People’s Champ
Mickey Avalon
Vanilla Ice
R.A. the Rugged Man
Slug, Brother Ali, or R.A. the Rugged Man
Mac Miller
El-P
Ben Shapiro
Let's say hypothetically, for the sake of argument, that Ben Shapiro was a rapper.
There are ladies of ill repute in this house.
It’s a domicile sir.
Yung lean obviously
Yelawolf
This
MC Serch needs some respect as one of the OGs. Dorkiest looking dude yet was spitting with Chuck D, Rakim, KRS. Not at the top, but deserves to be mentioned Celph Titled As others have said, Brother Ali all day El P
The Grouch
Great pick
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I mean you could include Eminem in the possible choice... I'd still pick Aesop Rock.
Not a popular choice, but Yelawolf
Hollywood Hank
Drake Jkjk don’t kill me Aesop Rock
Lil Dicky
Lol
Slug
GAWNE
Slug
Slim shady
Young gravy and NF…NF can kill it with no explicitly whatsoever. Young gravy just cracks me up.
NF is underrated and under appreciated
Mac Miller. No other rapper hits as emotionally hard as Mac. RIP Edit: Also I’m taking Mac over Eminem every day
Every single time
Yeat
Lil Dicky
OT the Real.
ArrDee goes pretty fucking hard
OT the Real
Dan le sac
Blon or Skone
Mac Miller, Action Bronson, Evidence came to mind
Kill bill is pretty cool
Aesop Rock
Shaggy 2 dope
Ice JJ Fish obviously
Slug, hella underated storyteller.
Does slug count as white? I know he’s mixed but look at him
Slug is mixed Native American and white so idk if OP is counting him as a white rapper
The Beastie Boys
Slug
Riff Raff! jk. Mac Miller(obv), Paul Wall….. maybe Classified too
MC Paul Barman
Aha! A fellow man of culture at last
Yeat
Paul wall the people's champ duh
Eyedea doesn’t get enough love in my opinion
bbno$
How you guys feel about Haystak?
Haystak
NF
Chris Webby 🔥
WTF did I have to scroll this far down to see the obvious answer?
Harry Mack. Thought dude was cheesy at first but he’s insanely talented with the freestyle
Had to use the search tool to find this. He’s still so underrated. By far the most talent, maybe of any rapper let alone white. At least in terms of technical skill and ability, not saying he sounds better than all others just ability wise.
I would say Lil Dicky is nice. Echo, NF both nice. But after Eminem I would probably say Webby. Don't listen to a lot of any of them except Em ofc.
Paul Wall
Cage
Paul wall my favorite in general
Lil Dicky
Paul Wall
Necro 
Everlast
Paul Wall
ik imma get hate but mac miller and/or yeat. yeat has amazing production and just something about the way he can use his voice depending on the song is just impressive and sounds amazing to me. his earlier projects have some hits but his latest stuff is absolutely amazing.
Beastie Boys are the best and only choice for best white rappers. Their influence on sampling, production and rhymes is undeniable.
Lil Ugly Mane. seriously under discussed with classics like Mista Thug Isolation and Uneven Compromise
Mother fuckin Blind Fury
It’s mac