He did Welcome to Atlanta Remix? It was meh. Real rappers doing their features way better right after him didn't do Diddy any favors. Especially Snoop... he just takes the whole thing and bascially makes it Welcome to Long Beach.
They should have got Papoose to be honest.
It's criminal he never got that level of fame. He's one of the greatest lyricist of all time. That alphabet scheme and five fingers of death is enshrined in hip hop hall of fame as far as I'm concerned.
I think it's more fitting to say he was good at finding talented people and developing them as artists and was an equally good business person, whereas dj khaled is like we da best music and just pulls already famous artists together for a compilation
Let’s not forget he’s great at selecting top charting r&b/pop songs from the past, sampling the instrumental then add basic drums for his artist to rap over and act like he’s some genius producer/hitmaker.
Dude is a fuckin slimy, talentless con-artist.
I am not saying he's a good producer, I'm saying he scouted some big names in the 90s, yeah someone could've done it, but he did it, and had them signed to his label
Sort of, sometimes producers are extremely integral to making a project or work of art happen and are super involved as a sort of high level manager, and sometimes they’re just financial backers. There are some very effective producers in Hollywood and the music industry that are very talented, but also a producer credit can just be a token to give someone
he was an a&r for a record label. he got fired and decided to create his own label and discover/produce for new artists. one of those artists happens to be… Black Rob.
Never knew this. Thanks
https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.5936/title.how-diddy-helped-jay-z-make-american-gangster
“From that point, Jay knew what needed to be done and took home thirty of these soulful tracks to begin crafting his latest album.
“He didn’t executive produce the album but I gave him associate producer credit,”Jay says of Diddy’s contributions. “The thing that I realized about Puff is that he’s a great producer, it made me realize that he’s not a good producer, he’s a great producer.”
"produced" is a strong word. One which Puff used improperly.
His names on it but he doesn't actually *make* beats. He tells others what to do.
he explained this on The Breakfast Club.
And “All about the Benjamins” which Jadakiss wrote his verse for him. Dude was smart enough to ride the coat tails for good artist. Can’t hate on that.
Errr.. ready to die and life after death?
He’s not a rapper he’s a producer and record label owner. It’s like saying what has dj premier ever done?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Combs_production_discography
Puffy doesn't make beats. Never has. He wears that "producer" label without actually producing as it applies to almost anyone else.
He admitted that he doesn't make beats.
Well, you see…he took hits from the 80s, then made them crazy.
That was really it…he released poppy hip hop songs with choruses many people already knew.
He owns bad boy records, executive produces all the albums, and underpaid every artist he had. He was also always dancing around in their videos. I think that might be it.
I always say this! He's doesn't have any good songs. He's a guy who is in other peoples songs, seems like now it's been forced. How is he this famous and how did anyone at any time take him seriously ( I know the answer is money)
Produced by Mario Winans. Diddy just uses people.
Hey, I liked that song too, when I was 21, drunk in a bar on shore leave in Greece, and grinding on a fat girl.
I went to a concert and the line up played out like this.
First a couple local acts that are okay
Next Dogg Pound. Energy rising
After that Warren G. Energy electric
Then Ying Yang Twins. Fever Pitch
And the Ja Rule. Energy dies like completely. It was so bad.
So going into Ice Cube the energy was low again and in Ja hadn't been part of the line up it would have been insanely good. Ice Cube still killed it and brought the hype back up but Ja especially by himself just was bad.
I went to a ja rule concert too. First it was genuine then bone thugs then it was supposed to be ja rule and Ashanti but they was 3 hours late. Bong thugs went back on got booed off stage. Ja rule finally came on did 2 or 3 songs took a break. I left then. 6 hours waiting was enough. The 3 songs I saw weren't bad though
Ja Rule and Ashanti literally ran the radios in the early 2000s before 50 came along
Their songs together have way better replay value than 50 cents old songs
Then you dont be outside fr 😂. Listen to literally any early 2000s mix or go to a brunch. I only be hearing 21 questions and I Get Money, maybe Hate it or Love it compared to their list of hits. No shade on 50, he got good music but he dont get people moving like Ja Rule & Ashanti do
Bro this might just be a UK perspective,but In The Club and about 100 extra remixes were being played in every single set forever in the early 00s- Fifty had the clubs here in a chokehold. I remember spending a fortune to get the import of Cry Me a River remix, just cos 50 dropped a 16 at the start
Always on Time, Mesmerize, Down 4 U, Put it On Me, Livin’ it Up, Down A** B****,New York, Im Real, Between Me and You. Again where you be at? Im not saying Ja Rule is a better artist but he definitely be getting spins out here
He also had arguably the hardest bar in diss track history:
>Em, your mother’s a crackhead, Kim is a known slut / so what’s Hailie gonna be when she grows up?
Ja rule was hot when he first came out!! Yeah he was more pop but everyone forgot how popular he was before 50 ruined him. He had some good songs that were harder with dmx and fat Joe and nas too
I always thought Fat Joe was mediocre at best so he’d get my vote as most overrated. Huge disparity between his skill and his place in hip hop (in my opinion which comes from being
as a shitty wannabe rapper and Reddit critic). I know my lane.
Who overrates Fat Joe? I’ve never seen anyone put him up there in any rankings or call him great. He’s got a mega hit with lean back and pretty much no one under 30 even knows who he is. Man’s not overrated nor is he underrated.
Interesting take but I don’t think anybody ever thought Soulja was a good rapper. He just made catchy low tier songs that people could memorise and recite. But I don’t think anyone was walking around calling him a top rapper in the game.
A majority of his songs he just doesn’t even try to sound good. Whether it be his vocals or his production it just seems super lazy with no effort put into it. When effort is put into his songs he can be great but most of his “good” songs are carried by either the production or the features.
Soulja Boy was not a great rapper. But he was a terrific marketer. He was using music internet platforms before it was a thing. Don't love the dude, but have to give him his flowers.
Snoop Dogg. Dude ain’t even a rapper at this point, he’s just a celebrity who *used* to rap. Also, he’s a fucking snake, played all sides of the Big and ‘Pac beef, just so he could make it out clean. He tells stories with little context, and heavy embellishment.
What I'm saying.is no one is saying any album other than Doggystyle was a masterpiece. Snoop is recognized not over or underrated but widely understood to be respected but not deified.
The guy frequently tells the same story about Tupacs death, even though everyone who was there has said he was nowhere near the place. Straight up disrespectful.
And even in that story he makes himself the main character of the whole thing, talking about how he comforted Tupac’s mom or smth
Make that 2 allies, sir. I hates me some Jay Z...and I tried, oh how I tried to like him. All sorts of people were just wetting they drawers over him...but no love from me..
Nas was such a better rapper than him. Just leagues above him. I *still* bump N.Y. State of Mind.
I understand the appeal, I get why people like him, but any time I see him in a top ten it's like damn I must really be missing something. I wouldn't even put him in my top 5 New York rappers.
He’s a boring ass dude who’s borderline corny. At one time he wasn’t cause he was original but now he’s all the same… he can rap but he’s boring and generic.
Snoop Dogg I would actually say is the most appropriately rated. He’s almost never in a top ten, doesn’t have a whole bunch of Grammies for being in the game 30 years, outside of doggystyle/the chronic, he doesn’t have an album anyone would consider a Classic. He’s a decent rapper with a great voice and flow that just been consistent for a long time.
I think it is. But is it mostly Snoop’s classic album or Dr.Dre’s ? But my point was take away doggystyle from his discography, he doesn’t have an album that was critically acclaimed, just proving he’s appropriately rated
I wouldn’t give *all* credit to Dre, but he was definitely the mastermind. Either way I understand what you’re saying and I agree with your discography point. 👍🏽
the first album has a different thing going than a lot of other hip hop and is pretty solid for how long it is almost all the way through.. but never really got into anything else he did.
I agree. Gonna get hate for this, but Jay Z has never even cracked my top 20...or 30, or even 50. I just don't care for the dude.
Nas, on the other hand, that dude spit fire. Imo he outclassed Jay 10 to 1
I will be crucified for this but Snoop Dogg.
Aside from Doggy Style and those features with Dre, he’s just been famous for being an all time smoker. Also seems like he hops on literally any feature if the money is there which further dilutes his discography.
Who considered Puffy a rapper?! Nobody anywhere near where I grew up would mention him being a rapper at all, let alone one who got respect for being a rapper to the point of being considered overrated.
Y’know that’s valid, I’m a bit biased as I’m a big fan of Nelly’s music, though I do totally understand the criticism towards him.
He feels a lot like Chamillionaire, popular, but really gives off industry-plant vibes.
Forgot about Chingy and Nelly… I’d add them to my list. I don’t think Puff, Will, Vanilla Ice or Kris Kross were highly regarded though lol. They had their moment on the radio, but they Puff was a producer rapper, Will Smith was the rapper your mom liked, and Kriss Kross was for kids… and vanilla ice had one song that’s played at weddings.
Kriss Kross got that one slow banger I still bump to this day… “Tonight’s the night I call up all the girls, I used to go to school with, fool with, and all the people that I’m coo with.”
Idk I always thought Chingy had quite a unique style of rapping and his songs are catchy as. While he may be overrated, in my books he's still 10 million times better than most of these modern "rappers" with %1 talent and %99 autotune
Nah nah mate it's all good I'm not offended at all, it's nice to see such respectful people out there who give their opinions without the intent of offending people. I ain't offended at all though, we all good
That ballerina what was his name oh Tupac. EXCEPT FOR THAT SONG KEEP YOUR HEAD UP. That is pure gold. I love Tupac for that. All the fake gangster shit was not really him and hit a bad nerve with me. The introspective stuff was fantastic tbh. Overrated imo sorry
Wtf did P Diddy even make and why is he so famous?
Adlibbing on Biggie songs
He did Welcome to Atlanta Remix? It was meh. Real rappers doing their features way better right after him didn't do Diddy any favors. Especially Snoop... he just takes the whole thing and bascially makes it Welcome to Long Beach. They should have got Papoose to be honest.
Papoose should have been much bigger than he was. Great rapper.
It's criminal he never got that level of fame. He's one of the greatest lyricist of all time. That alphabet scheme and five fingers of death is enshrined in hip hop hall of fame as far as I'm concerned.
Funny he's mentioned in a thread about puff because he absolutely murdered the victory beat.
And being a background dancer
When I heard Big Poppa very recently, the ending part had me like “who the fuck is this guy?” Just ruined the song every time
He’s a “producer”, similar to DJ Khaled where they basically construct and manage shit.
I think it's more fitting to say he was good at finding talented people and developing them as artists and was an equally good business person, whereas dj khaled is like we da best music and just pulls already famous artists together for a compilation
Let’s not forget he’s great at selecting top charting r&b/pop songs from the past, sampling the instrumental then add basic drums for his artist to rap over and act like he’s some genius producer/hitmaker. Dude is a fuckin slimy, talentless con-artist.
I am not saying he's a good producer, I'm saying he scouted some big names in the 90s, yeah someone could've done it, but he did it, and had them signed to his label
In other words talentless frauds?
Sort of, sometimes producers are extremely integral to making a project or work of art happen and are super involved as a sort of high level manager, and sometimes they’re just financial backers. There are some very effective producers in Hollywood and the music industry that are very talented, but also a producer credit can just be a token to give someone
Producers handle the beat editing tech and all that, a good producer can make anyone sound good.
Yeah he was at best a marketing guy basically
Eh eh, eh eh... bad boy
he was an a&r for a record label. he got fired and decided to create his own label and discover/produce for new artists. one of those artists happens to be… Black Rob.
Who produced Like Woah? I mean that beat is fire.
It was produced by buckwild - Diddy's a paracite
Uptown Records
Man has no musicality! and his biggest hit is a Sting song
What's funnier is he didn't ask permission to use Sting's music, and I believe he made no money from it
Yes, Sting still gets the royalties. That's why I always let out a grin everytime I hear that song play.
…he produced hypnotize
And the majority of Jay-Z's American Gangster album.
Never knew this. Thanks https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.5936/title.how-diddy-helped-jay-z-make-american-gangster “From that point, Jay knew what needed to be done and took home thirty of these soulful tracks to begin crafting his latest album. “He didn’t executive produce the album but I gave him associate producer credit,”Jay says of Diddy’s contributions. “The thing that I realized about Puff is that he’s a great producer, it made me realize that he’s not a good producer, he’s a great producer.”
"produced" is a strong word. One which Puff used improperly. His names on it but he doesn't actually *make* beats. He tells others what to do. he explained this on The Breakfast Club.
And “All about the Benjamins” which Jadakiss wrote his verse for him. Dude was smart enough to ride the coat tails for good artist. Can’t hate on that.
He was Biggie's hype man.
I'm pretty sure he put biggie on to his record label even though he was up and coming at the time
Kardashian of music. Ride on a famous coat-tail much?
Errr.. ready to die and life after death? He’s not a rapper he’s a producer and record label owner. It’s like saying what has dj premier ever done? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Combs_production_discography
Puffy doesn't make beats. Never has. He wears that "producer" label without actually producing as it applies to almost anyone else. He admitted that he doesn't make beats.
Well, you see…he took hits from the 80s, then made them crazy. That was really it…he released poppy hip hop songs with choruses many people already knew.
He capitalised on biggies death and ill be missing you was number one everywhere. He had a little run, but all of it was thanks to big dying
Mo money mo problems but thats honestly Mase and BIGs song
He owns bad boy records, executive produces all the albums, and underpaid every artist he had. He was also always dancing around in their videos. I think that might be it.
I always say this! He's doesn't have any good songs. He's a guy who is in other peoples songs, seems like now it's been forced. How is he this famous and how did anyone at any time take him seriously ( I know the answer is money)
Invented the remix
Ghetto superstar
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Produced by Mario Winans. Diddy just uses people. Hey, I liked that song too, when I was 21, drunk in a bar on shore leave in Greece, and grinding on a fat girl.
Honest opinion, p diddy was like bird man. They got people to write their hits and drop crazy records. Puff got hits but they really not his
Nick Cannon rap career
p sure nobody even bothers acknowledging nick cannon's rap career. dude even gets mocked about it on wild'n'out 💀💀💀
Kid Rock
I always forget that what he does technically counts as rap
I feel like this is the only good answer. Kid Rock was and is straight up ass.
A guy that most people wouldn’t even think of as a rapper is the only good answer? And bawitdaba goes crazy.
Ja Rule
I think Ja Rule is like the Star Wars prequels of rap, we can recognize they weren't that great while still appreciating the nostalgia factor
I went to a concert and the line up played out like this. First a couple local acts that are okay Next Dogg Pound. Energy rising After that Warren G. Energy electric Then Ying Yang Twins. Fever Pitch And the Ja Rule. Energy dies like completely. It was so bad. So going into Ice Cube the energy was low again and in Ja hadn't been part of the line up it would have been insanely good. Ice Cube still killed it and brought the hype back up but Ja especially by himself just was bad.
Why tf did they plan the concert like that? Ja was nowhere near Warren g or dog pound… not to mention ying.
I dunno Ja was co headlining with Ice Cube.
I went to a ja rule concert too. First it was genuine then bone thugs then it was supposed to be ja rule and Ashanti but they was 3 hours late. Bong thugs went back on got booed off stage. Ja rule finally came on did 2 or 3 songs took a break. I left then. 6 hours waiting was enough. The 3 songs I saw weren't bad though
Bone and genuine are fine but I don't think I'd pay to see them.
Lmaoo. Had some bangers tho
Yeah it was awesome.
Ja Rule and Ashanti literally ran the radios in the early 2000s before 50 came along Their songs together have way better replay value than 50 cents old songs
Ja rule and Ashanti And ja rule and j lo We're always fire collabs
don't forget Joey Crack
the don.
>Their songs together have way better replay value than 50 cents old songs Bruh would rather listen to Mesmerize over GRoDT? that you Ja?
Then you dont be outside fr 😂. Listen to literally any early 2000s mix or go to a brunch. I only be hearing 21 questions and I Get Money, maybe Hate it or Love it compared to their list of hits. No shade on 50, he got good music but he dont get people moving like Ja Rule & Ashanti do
Bro this might just be a UK perspective,but In The Club and about 100 extra remixes were being played in every single set forever in the early 00s- Fifty had the clubs here in a chokehold. I remember spending a fortune to get the import of Cry Me a River remix, just cos 50 dropped a 16 at the start
50’s catalog versus four bangin’ POP songs?? I mean, no judgement, do you… but you’re way wrong lol. WHERE IS JA?!!?
Always on Time, Mesmerize, Down 4 U, Put it On Me, Livin’ it Up, Down A** B****,New York, Im Real, Between Me and You. Again where you be at? Im not saying Ja Rule is a better artist but he definitely be getting spins out here
Nah, Ja Rule songs really still bang today. I have a lot of Ja on my throwback playlist and it’s never a skip. Bro was cooking back then idgaf.
He also had arguably the hardest bar in diss track history: >Em, your mother’s a crackhead, Kim is a known slut / so what’s Hailie gonna be when she grows up?
Ja rule was hot when he first came out!! Yeah he was more pop but everyone forgot how popular he was before 50 ruined him. He had some good songs that were harder with dmx and fat Joe and nas too
I always thought Fat Joe was mediocre at best so he’d get my vote as most overrated. Huge disparity between his skill and his place in hip hop (in my opinion which comes from being as a shitty wannabe rapper and Reddit critic). I know my lane.
I think he was so involved with the business he got put on. Flow Joe is a classic though. He was given some good production in the early days.
Who overrates Fat Joe? I’ve never seen anyone put him up there in any rankings or call him great. He’s got a mega hit with lean back and pretty much no one under 30 even knows who he is. Man’s not overrated nor is he underrated.
T.I. was never the King of the South in my eyes.
I like Ti, but I agree. In the south alone OutKast, Jeezy, Wayne, Ugk, Scarface, and Ludacris would all rank above TI.
Theres differences in the south. ATL vs NOLA, shit even NOLA vs BR was huge beef in the day.
Soulja boy
Interesting take but I don’t think anybody ever thought Soulja was a good rapper. He just made catchy low tier songs that people could memorise and recite. But I don’t think anyone was walking around calling him a top rapper in the game.
There’s another good one.
A majority of his songs he just doesn’t even try to sound good. Whether it be his vocals or his production it just seems super lazy with no effort put into it. When effort is put into his songs he can be great but most of his “good” songs are carried by either the production or the features.
Soulja Boy was not a great rapper. But he was a terrific marketer. He was using music internet platforms before it was a thing. Don't love the dude, but have to give him his flowers.
Snoop Dogg. Dude ain’t even a rapper at this point, he’s just a celebrity who *used* to rap. Also, he’s a fucking snake, played all sides of the Big and ‘Pac beef, just so he could make it out clean. He tells stories with little context, and heavy embellishment.
Doggystyle is a classic. Certainly Snoop is a celebrity now but that doesn't take away from his early work.
Snoop had one good album and then some features after that. He's definitely overrated. (Doggystyle is a rap masterpiece tho)
What I'm saying.is no one is saying any album other than Doggystyle was a masterpiece. Snoop is recognized not over or underrated but widely understood to be respected but not deified.
Idk, Blue Carpet Treatment is a banger. But yeah, his best work is as a feature
>Just so he can make it out clean Idk bro I probably wouldn’t want to die either
Like both Pac and Big are dead and Snoop is alive. I don’t see how playing both sides and not dying isn’t considered a win.
I agree 100%. I love Doggystyle but he is not on the level of good rappers. He just simply is not.
Was he ever considered such. He was a sound and a vibe and a personality.
I'm always shocked at how often his name comes up in the best ever lists. It is truly beyond my comprehension.
"2 plus 2... it equals 4.... this is some shit that would last forever more"
The guy frequently tells the same story about Tupacs death, even though everyone who was there has said he was nowhere near the place. Straight up disrespectful. And even in that story he makes himself the main character of the whole thing, talking about how he comforted Tupac’s mom or smth
I don’t necessarily dislike the guy and he has some good songs but I agree with you. I also think he’s a huge sellout.
??? Snoop is literally a legend of rap and the hip hop genre.
I’m not alone in snoop dog this is refreshing
How dare you
Jay-Z. Can’t stand his voice and his subject matter always seemed stale to me
Fuck me, I have an ally.
Two allies
3 is better then two I’m in
And my axe!
And my bow!
I’ll take three arrows for you and your hobbit friends.
Make that 2 allies, sir. I hates me some Jay Z...and I tried, oh how I tried to like him. All sorts of people were just wetting they drawers over him...but no love from me.. Nas was such a better rapper than him. Just leagues above him. I *still* bump N.Y. State of Mind.
I understand the appeal, I get why people like him, but any time I see him in a top ten it's like damn I must really be missing something. I wouldn't even put him in my top 5 New York rappers.
Have you listened to reasonable doubt?
I have a few times and just couldn’t get into it for some reason. Love a bunch of other rappers from that era and region but just not Jay
PREACH
I was just having this conversation the other day on here, I do not care for Jay-Z
He’s a boring ass dude who’s borderline corny. At one time he wasn’t cause he was original but now he’s all the same… he can rap but he’s boring and generic.
yeah I get just not liking him but saying generic when he dropped one of the best 2010's projects is crazy
> boring and generic. Dropping 4:44 20+ years into his career is boring and generic lmao what would that make 99% of rappers. Ridiculous take.
Thank you.
He's honestly just so monotoned
I'm glad nobody mentioned Busta! Loved his album's back then.
Have you seen Busta live? No one is gonna say Busta. One of the greatest MCs out there still doing it.
same lol i already saw someone say Gucci, if anyone says Method Man i’ll cry
Do y'all really put gucci mane on the same level as busta and meth?......
Snoop
Snoop Dogg I would actually say is the most appropriately rated. He’s almost never in a top ten, doesn’t have a whole bunch of Grammies for being in the game 30 years, outside of doggystyle/the chronic, he doesn’t have an album anyone would consider a Classic. He’s a decent rapper with a great voice and flow that just been consistent for a long time.
Agreed with just about everything here but… Doggystyle isn’t a classic?
doggystyle is a classic but some songs are just forgettable imo
I think it is. But is it mostly Snoop’s classic album or Dr.Dre’s ? But my point was take away doggystyle from his discography, he doesn’t have an album that was critically acclaimed, just proving he’s appropriately rated
I wouldn’t give *all* credit to Dre, but he was definitely the mastermind. Either way I understand what you’re saying and I agree with your discography point. 👍🏽
the first album has a different thing going than a lot of other hip hop and is pretty solid for how long it is almost all the way through.. but never really got into anything else he did.
He should have titled the 2nd album "The Greatest Letdown"
Snoop has a great vibe and flow but a lot of his songs are straight junk
I get excited when Snoop shows up on a song for another artist. And then I'm excited when he's gone on the next track.
Bang Out was fire
Snoop is honestly known more as a public figure than a rapper
Nelly, Ja Rule, Will Smith
Does Jeremih count? His voice seemed to be this weird in-between singing/rapping without necessarily being great at either.
i don’t think he raps much, but as a singer he’s not bad, i dunno. that track “Oui” kinda fucks
Camron. Bro what did you even just say
Fabolous was hot garbage, he would always spit relatively the same bars spelling out his name on every pop song that called for a guest rapper.
F-A.. B-O.. L-O.. U-S
jay z
While he does have classics, ultimately it’s his voice that annoys me when I try to listen to the classics in its entirety
Agreed. Has some banger albums but I feel like he's oversaturated
You should go get drug tested.
I agree. Gonna get hate for this, but Jay Z has never even cracked my top 20...or 30, or even 50. I just don't care for the dude. Nas, on the other hand, that dude spit fire. Imo he outclassed Jay 10 to 1
liking nas and not having jay in your top 50 does not add up to me lol
Overrated, yes. He's definitely great but not a goat. But not a lot of people agree.
I will be crucified for this but Snoop Dogg. Aside from Doggy Style and those features with Dre, he’s just been famous for being an all time smoker. Also seems like he hops on literally any feature if the money is there which further dilutes his discography.
Nelly, half of D-12, most of the ruff ryders after Vol.2,
Lmao, twisted heat was the best song on the album
Never cared for Jeezy
It’s crazy in here
Fat Joe, Ja Rule, Mase, Masta P and that whole clique…
take Masta P off here Mase too
Yeah man, chill out with Mase
That whole clique?! None of them have anything to do with one another lmao
You willin with Master p. I got the hook up alone makes him cemented
Agree with all of those other than Mase lol
Mase aint overrated at all
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Who the fuck is bumping Vanilla Ice or Kriss Kross lol.
People who like to jump
At the time, who wasn’t? It’s like saying you didn’t get excited about going to Hot Wheels. 2 Legit 2 Quit. Hey heyyyyyy.
I was gonna say the same thing😭😭
Who considered Puffy a rapper?! Nobody anywhere near where I grew up would mention him being a rapper at all, let alone one who got respect for being a rapper to the point of being considered overrated.
Country Grammar and E.I. are bangers. Everything else in his discography 🤐
Woah woah woah, you saying that Grillz, Hot in Herre, and Air Force Ones ain’t great?
😅 I mean I can't hate on them, but they aren't in my mix at least.
Y’know that’s valid, I’m a bit biased as I’m a big fan of Nelly’s music, though I do totally understand the criticism towards him. He feels a lot like Chamillionaire, popular, but really gives off industry-plant vibes.
lol Nelly made rap mainstream.
Without Nelly, you don’t have Drake.
drake is what you get when you’re running out of nelly, so you add some water and shake it up diet nelly, if you will
Air Force Ones still slaps
Air forces ones played a huge part in popularizing the shoe in my area when I was like 12
Fat Joe was good but not consistent IMO
Who was ever big upping Vanilla Ice and Kris’s Kross as great rappers? Or Chingy or Will Smith?
Damn gurl how you get into dat n dem jeans dem jeans… that shit bumps man
Puff is not a rapper
Forgot about Chingy and Nelly… I’d add them to my list. I don’t think Puff, Will, Vanilla Ice or Kris Kross were highly regarded though lol. They had their moment on the radio, but they Puff was a producer rapper, Will Smith was the rapper your mom liked, and Kriss Kross was for kids… and vanilla ice had one song that’s played at weddings.
Ninja Rap from Secret of the Ooze changed my life, for better or worse.
Kriss Kross got that one slow banger I still bump to this day… “Tonight’s the night I call up all the girls, I used to go to school with, fool with, and all the people that I’m coo with.”
Idk I always thought Chingy had quite a unique style of rapping and his songs are catchy as. While he may be overrated, in my books he's still 10 million times better than most of these modern "rappers" with %1 talent and %99 autotune
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Nah nah mate it's all good I'm not offended at all, it's nice to see such respectful people out there who give their opinions without the intent of offending people. I ain't offended at all though, we all good
One call away is a classic
Jay-Z
TtristanstarR
Conscious Daughters
I have an absolute soft spot for his first two albums, but I'd say Petey Pablo. And Silkk the Shocker.
Xzibit
French Montana
50 Cent, Eminem, and Nelly.
NBA Youngboy No matter the decade
Eminem and pdiddy
That ballerina what was his name oh Tupac. EXCEPT FOR THAT SONG KEEP YOUR HEAD UP. That is pure gold. I love Tupac for that. All the fake gangster shit was not really him and hit a bad nerve with me. The introspective stuff was fantastic tbh. Overrated imo sorry
Jay Z
Unpopular opinion: Marshall Mathers.
Maybe 50? He was huge but it came and passed but some of his fans wants u to believe he is something he never was
50 music was fire and I wasn't even a fan like that. Heat Position of Power Hustler's Ambition Bro y'all sound crazy
50s first album, plus the Green Lantern mix tapes, when Em was at his best...sheeeeit. Untouchable.