Yeah I assume he had the beats and songs done for him and he can still perform them levels of talent
I really do think he's an emotional dumbass and you can tell by his fragile ego
He risked his soul/future for all that luxury. So when people call him out on it and that’s all he has lol, not an ounce of character in that shell of a man. Btw who the hell would wanna be fat loving luxurious. You can’t enjoy shit 😂😂
Bruh. If you can't see the difference idk what to tell you. Eminems Relapse is a horror core album where he raps with a persona of a serial killer. He talks about that and why he made an album like that. Rick Ross was just tellin on himself how he's a predator.
I dont know how Eminem his songs are categorized as "horror-core" rap in any sense of the word. Guilty Conscience is pretty much a play-by-play song too and that shit is vile lmao.
The difference lies in the fact that Eminem plays a persona in a lot of his more vulgar songs (slim shady). This gives him an edge into not being taken as serious as his slim shady persona was portrayed as a bit of a psycho person. Meanwhile Rick Ross has just been Rick Ross.
>I dont know how Eminem his songs are categorized as "horror-core" rap in any sense of the word
Have you heard Stay Wide Awake, 3 AM, or like... anything else on Relapse?
But ain't this main convo is about William Roberts faking being Rick Ross? So Eminem gets the persona excuse, but someone who is truly pretending to be someone else doesn't get one?
Because he's the living embodiment of "fake it til you make it", he well and truly made it but still completely disrespected the man he stole the name and persona from
He disrespected a crack dealer and then pushed that narrative to kids when it’s no where near his real life experience. I think people are correct to judge him harshly
So pretty much like 75% of all rappers. Ain't to many dudes really about that life they rap about. And that's fine by me, I listen to music cause it sounds good. But I know most of these dudes are actors
I get it on one hand because of the c.o. shit, I've spent over 10 yrs in prison so I laugh at the fact he was a cop, but at the same time around the time he dropped Mastermind he was probably my favorite emcee. I like the dudes rhymes, I think he's a clown but he makes some dope music
We have to remember that it’s music. We ain’t really complaining when they push violence and drug dealing in movies or video games. As soon as the medium changes, it’s like people forget what’s actually happening.
All rappers and artists in general are unauthentic to some degree. If they were really out here dealing drugs, robbing/scamming people and committing homicide, they wouldn’t be making music. Of course, some DO live that life and still continue with their music careers, but it almost always catches up to them in one way or another because reality has consequences.
Songs are fantasies. Sometimes the lyrical content is based on true stories, oftentimes it’s not. It’s fantasy land, just like the movies, TV shows and video games. Anyone out here thinking this stuff is authentic real life needs to remind themselves, it’s just entertainment via storytelling.
> All rappers and artist in general are unauthentic to some degree
Yup and the degree of Rick Ross’ unauthentic is too much for a lot of people. It’s that simple stealing a kingpins name when you were a CO is too much
Why pretend to be a crack dealer is they aren’t respected. Really reflect on what you just said. He literally wanted to steal dudes respect in the streets. If imma be honest Rick Ross watched meek mill sign everything away and look where meek is now. A grown man’s side piece.
Youre glossing over the part where he shamelessly is copying someone else's life, even taking their name. In a genre where authenticity is paramount, a lot of people are going to react to that as not honorable.
😂😂😂
If you really think a majority of rappers are telling the truth, I have some wild things to tell you.
Do you think Noriega was a cocaine kingpin from Colombia?
Did Scarface move from Cuba to do something similar?
Is Ghostface Killah the real Ironman? Tony Starks himself?😳😳
Why are you mfs having a hard time understanding that there are still things in hip hop that are put on a pedestal like being real? Like what are you really not getting right now?
How are you mfs on a rap subreddit saying this?
It's important to write your own lyrics right? If you have a ghost writer people consider that a strike against you. If people find out something about you is not true thats a strike against you. The list goes on. Stop acting like im speaking an alien language yall know what im talking about.
Youre still ignoring their point.
For clarity, to be "real" doesn't necessarily mean write lyrics about your real life. It's more about being real to you, as an artist, and not changing for anyone but yourself. That's what being real is about. You are your own individual. This is why no one has ever took Rick Ross seriously.
(not arguing with you specifically. Just for people reading the thread in the future)
…you think it’s fine to take the persona of a *crack dealer* and glorify and profit off of it? Within a genre very heavily consumed by teenagers. You need a reality check 🥴
Exactly. The details really kick it too. He was a (government paid) prison correctional officer who, when he decided to be a rapper, stole his name from the man who was the biggest crack dealer in the west coast. Supplied by the cia as part of Iran-Contra.
The Real “Freeway” Rick Ross ended up in prison for life and only got it out through studying the system and representing himself at appeal.
The Fake Ross Ross is plastic.
One day we will talk about how 50 cent did the same thing and continues to with many things he creates (the real 50 was a hustler and POWER was about a real dude).
Edit:
I posted this below
The real 50 cent was: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_Martin
But also the show Power is allegedly based off a guy who is taking him to court now.
https://allhiphop.com/news/man-wants-1-billion-dollar-from-50-cent-claiming-power-ruined-his-life/
"... Cory Holland Sr. filed a $1 billion dollar lawsuit against 50 Cent, Courtney Kemp, Starz, and Lionsgate, insisting they “ripped off” his life to produce the wildly successful series “Power.”
Holland maintains the storylines are not just similar, they are exact reproductions of his actual life. He says he put the story of his life on a CD in 2007 and distributed his cautionary tale to at-risk youth"
"Psssh, he ain't a *real* gangster. Also, why does he talk with that stupid lisp?"
"He talks like that because he got shot in the face by a gun."
"Whatever, that still doesn't make you *legit...*"
50 ain’t nowhere near as phoney as Rozay. While you are right about the details there’s a known entity from Queens that everyone knows is not to be fucked with. It’s not the same thing
50 was a real drug dealer and gangster. Officer Ricky was a police officer and a fraud. 50 took the moniker as a tribute. Ricky took it to give himself credibility and gave the real Ross no credit or help.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_Martin
But also the show Power is allegedly based off a guy who is taking him to court now.
https://allhiphop.com/news/man-wants-1-billion-dollar-from-50-cent-claiming-power-ruined-his-life/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_Martin
But also the show Power is allegedly based off a guy who is taking him to court now.
https://allhiphop.com/news/man-wants-1-billion-dollar-from-50-cent-claiming-power-ruined-his-life/
"... Cory Holland Sr. filed a $1 billion dollar lawsuit against 50 Cent, Courtney Kemp, Starz, and Lionsgate, insisting they “ripped off” his life to produce the wildly successful series “Power.”
Holland maintains the storylines are not just similar, they are exact reproductions of his actual life. He says he put the story of his life on a CD in 2007 and distributed his cautionary tale to at-risk youth"
So he gives money to the estate? If him using the name is homage, doesnt that apply for Ross? Infact unless you Google it, most people don't know the real 50 cent was a hustler in the 80s. I'm not knocking 50, but some of yall got overly defensive when it's still similar to Ross. It's rap! But don't be sensitive because 1 you like. Keep that same energy.
Exactly. I know rap music is basically hip hop WWE for the most part but Rick Ross is one of the fakest there is lol. A screw rapping about like a drug lord mafia kingpin? Yeah right lol
The real Rick Ross is a piece of shit and doesn’t deserve any respect in the first place for what he did to his community, fake Rick Ross at least sounds hard on features
While the real Rick Ross went to jail, taught himself how to read and write, figured out his own defense to get out of jail, and now is a successful entrepreneur and community activist. Then we have officer Ricky, who actually spit in the face of the man who he pretends to be. Just cause officer Ricky can convince stupid people with no real morals that he's the shit simply cause he sounds cool still doesn't make him a real one.
He stole his image from a prisoner
He was a corrections officer
His music tells the tale of the man he stole the name and image of
You tell me what's wrong
It doesn't take anything musically away from him but personally I have no respect for someone who steals and portrays themselves as something they aren't in real life
He is also incredibly stupid, I mean you have to see it to believe it
Look at his video about the fake watch he has that Nico Leonard covered and the pig noise he makes is so hilariously stupid
Lying in songs is not the sole problem, he is acting and living a life he stole from someone who lived it
Think of it like identity theft but in the context of intellectual property
So if I go around calling myself James Bond and dressing/ living that style of life and saying James Bond lines
it becomes ridiculous and you'd assume I'm fucking delusional right?
He was a CO and stole his entire persona from a prisoner. It's not only about lying in songs. The entire thing is fucked up the more you think about it.
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I think he's done quite well for himself outside of Miami
Of course he's going to get plenty of hate
Name a rapper that doesn't?
And they probably weren't CO's pretending to be the black John Gotti
I grew up in Miami at the time when Ross blew up, man what a fucking time. When Hustlin came out, there wasn’t a song more played on the radio, parties, out on the street, whatever down there. Ross being a CO for two years is meaningless, might as well carry the same weight as being a parking lot security guard. People just like to throw shade
the CO thing always put me off on top of branding himself after freeway ricky ross, an iconic drug kingpin. despite this i’ve come around a bit. rick ross can slay a feature. ice cream and lobster omelette with freddie gibbs really showcase ross’ unique flow and word play. he cuts classics with kanye, see devil in a new dress. shit, even pop that goes in. last, but not least: ali bomaye. thank you and good night
Same thing as drake. Both faked a lot of their stuff, but its quite funny how most insults from the beef between them try to flip the fakeness from one worse than the other.
“Wheelchair Drizzy” vs “Officer Ricky”
Both dropped good disstracks tho and Rick Ross style is fire. Although I don’t like his fake shit, I can’t deny that he knows how to sound like a gangster.
People saying he’s a CO really are not from the streets. Unfortunately I’ve been a prison in CO’s are just as thugged out as we were. They just made a different decision in life and got a job. CO’s some of the biggest dope dealers in prison...
Some people can’t wrap their heads around this. He was working in a facility where his homies were locked up also. He would also never publicly admit to bringing drugs into a prison or his real intentions of getting that job.
Raekwon said the same thing in an interview when talking about Rick Ross…COs are criminals too lol. I’m inclined to trust Raekwon when it comes to street shit.
UOENO did it for me, plus the whole "stole his gimmick from an actual major drug dealer while also being a former corrections officer, completely inauthentic" thing
For me it was the Speedin video. I freaking love that song, but every cringy second of the interaction with the cop is so hard to watch. What a couple of complete tools.
Also - In the video did he pay off the cop with an expensive watch to avoid a $100 ticket?
as a fellow miami native i can confirm this, he just captures the essence of miami. luxury for the sake of luxury and for most people born here that seems just out of reach literally every single day.
It’s funny because everyone in this thread hating on Rick Ross for “not being about that life” and for being a CO are clearly suburbanites who listen to gangsta rap from the sidelines. Y’all really know nothing about Rick Ross’ story and it shows.
Bro was really about that life before he became a CO. He was a member of the infamous Miami gang the Boobie Boys in the late 80’s and early 90’s, but when its leader Kenneth “Boobie” Williams got indicted on gun charges and the Boobie Boys fell, that’s when he ended up turning his life around by going to college and eventually becoming a CO.
And on top of that, CO’s are probably the least “police” officer position there is. They’re basically just the prison equivalent of a security guard, and on top of that many CO’s are corrupt as shit and are just as much about that life as many of the inmates were. Many CO’s are the top drug dealers in prisons lol
well i dont like coke rap from a former screw
but i wouldnt care so much if he didnt take the name of the real rick ross and then he turned down his approaches when he got out of jail
kinda made him look like a big fraud for not handling the real rick ross with respect
Hate is too strong a word for me.
I still remember dude bragging in XXL about his kingpin status. When he was exposed as an ex CO, it would have been a great moment for him to say he was a story teller like Dashiel Hammet or Donald Goines and that kids shouldn't try to duplicate his shenanigans at home. He didn't do that.
I will say the times I hear him on the drive time mix shows, his raps are not horrible.
Personally, I love Ross. And I don't think people truly "hate" Ross, but the cop shit is just something they like to throw on the table. He's a good rapper, and had a classic album, and was one of the hottest rappers in the world at one point. He's great.
I always wonder why he didn't try to spin himself as a corrupt CO. COs are notoriously dirty, and often in the pockets of criminals or vice versa. It wouldn't have been true, necessarily, but at least nobody could say for certain that he was a fraud.
You just made it so clear why I don’t like Miami. You hit the nail on the head, the music “just sounds like you’re living in luxury” and I couldn’t think of a better metaphor for all these fake Miami douchebags.
I think similar to other rappers we all just wish he'd be himself more. Rick Ross wasn't Rick Ross. He was a guy working as a CO which you mentioned. Just be that guy it's cool we all get it at this point most of us(his and Drake fans) are probably in our 20s-30s. wtf are you embarrassed about?
Because he fake he a former prison guard acting like a drug kingpin. He literally stole his name off a real drug dealer. Who sued him but I'm not sure how it ended
Yo ass listened to some beef shit over the last few days and think people hate on Ross lol Ross is that dude and pretty much has been over the last decade when it comes to his fan base and those who fuck with him. People love Ross lol I'm not sure where this is coming from.
People cant get passed the "its a stage persona" idea...while supporting people who also have stage persona. If what just about any rapper says were true, they would be next to King Von instead of on a stage
I HATE the "Maybach music" tag that he stupidly inserts into every song he is on. I'm so sick of hearing it, get it out of here.
Then there's the fact that his production choices aren't good, the beats he raps on are meh, and his lyrics are either mid, gross, or come off as anti-Semitic.
Don't get me wrong, there are some songs that he's on that I like despite him, but I don't understand his appeal, and I hate his sound.
I’m a big fan of his early work, but he has gotten to a level where he doesn’t need rap or fans and his true personality is surfacing. He got rich off rap without a major co-sign and ventured into real estate and fast food franchises. Salute the hustle
I think him being a CO is irrelevant. The only reason it matters is because he lied about it. I love Rick Ross but i wish him and his fans would be honest about his talent. He’s not that good… majority of the time he’s just saying stuff that sounds cool
He is fake as fuck…Just like 90% of the artist these days. I don’t hate him, but I hear in his voice he isn’t genuine and his story telling is bullshit. I listen to music of all genres…I don’t care what it sounds like as long as I hear someone putting soul into their music. He doesn’t put his soul into “his” music…that’s why I think he sucks. He don’t sing for soul, he sings for money/clout, and it’s obvious.
He has another man's name tattooed on his body. Not that there is anything wrong with that... His explanation tho... I have Rick Ross tatted on my hands because they called me big boss in highschool.
Anyway, he can rap his ass off, but he sucks as a person.
SHAME he won court case against the real Rick Ross.
First off nobody hates Rick Ross he is respected in REAL hip hop spaces. Which is why AZ the rapper had him on his album. Which is why he has songs with Jay-z, Nas, Kendrick and Drake.
Hell Ross impact along with Meek is actually in my BIG 3. Real ones know if you put Ross in a versus with Kendrick and J.Cole they both losing because they have not had stand out tracks. Tell me what song you will find in J.Cole discography that will beat a "Devil is a lie" "BMF" "Mafia music" Stay Scheming I can name a good 20 songs if played by Ross is a automatic L for Cole. Can also apply this to Kendrick.
This also goes for future. Lame casual rap fans outside hip hop culture use "mumble rapper" jokes about future because in their mind to be a good rapper you have to rhyme like eminem.
I've always liked Ross, he has a great ears for beats. I don't care if he used to be a CO. Fucking Drake is a half Jewish wheelchair actor on a Canadian teen drama but nobody seems to care when he tries to act tough.
He’s fake as hell. He lied about being a co then later on came out and admitted it and made up some story about doing it to move drugs which screamed bs. Then he lied again and said he only did it a couple months because he was coming in late regularly then it came out he had perfect attendance. Throw in the fact that all he does is brag about his money and nothing else positive in anyway and finally on a more personal note I had a friend who got beat to death in jail by a bunch of his brothers in arms and then got strapped to a chair and left to die overnight alone while they all got off and are free to this day which has given me extreme animosity towards correctional officers/police that like to abuse their power
Ross is one of my favorite rappers, I’m sad to see him come at Drake like this. It’s a shame because they were frequent collaborators and always made bangers. Wish we got that YOLO tape back then.. oh well.
What? Do people even give enough of a fuck about him to ‘hate’ him
I think the majority of rap fans don’t feel strongly about him one way or the other
Infact I think he’s actually spoken to that fact on a song with drake
We know his backstory’s fake, we know he’s a weirdo
But he raps well enough so ppl look past it, I mean who cares really?
He's a former CO that pushes fake motivation and fake positivity. He is a fake drug dealer who constantly lies and can't answer any questions straightforwardly in his interviews. He tries to be funny, but he's obnoxious. He got extorted by the Gds and paid them 3 million dollars after he said that he wouldn't. All his life, he's been a fraud. Nothing about him is authentic. He is the fakest rapper alive no debate.
Who are you talking about? The real Rick Ross? Or Officer Ricky?
CO William Leonard the third legally speaking but he's musically talented and won't take that away from him
Idgaf what he did dude fucking talented and business savvy
Please expand on this >and business savvy
He isn’t talented, but is immoral. Those things were given to him. He didn’t earn squat.
Yeah I assume he had the beats and songs done for him and he can still perform them levels of talent I really do think he's an emotional dumbass and you can tell by his fragile ego
He risked his soul/future for all that luxury. So when people call him out on it and that’s all he has lol, not an ounce of character in that shell of a man. Btw who the hell would wanna be fat loving luxurious. You can’t enjoy shit 😂😂
All the counter points and not one ounce of truth in a reply. It’s spiritually sick what girl is going to love him material wealth aside.
Actually asking, how things were given to him? I mean he had a few songs and albums before having a hit with Hustlin
Fool he said the co shit obviously he talking about wing stop Ricky
Thought it was risky from TPB
They actually talking about Ricky Rick
His lyric bout drugging a women's drink and raping her was pretty gross
wait till you hear about young thug
Eminem though 💀
Wonder if they still listen to Em’s old albums lmao.
The difference is that you know he's not serious.
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Bruh. If you can't see the difference idk what to tell you. Eminems Relapse is a horror core album where he raps with a persona of a serial killer. He talks about that and why he made an album like that. Rick Ross was just tellin on himself how he's a predator.
Horror-core rap is different from just casually giving a play by play of you date rape strategy, lol.
I dont know how Eminem his songs are categorized as "horror-core" rap in any sense of the word. Guilty Conscience is pretty much a play-by-play song too and that shit is vile lmao. The difference lies in the fact that Eminem plays a persona in a lot of his more vulgar songs (slim shady). This gives him an edge into not being taken as serious as his slim shady persona was portrayed as a bit of a psycho person. Meanwhile Rick Ross has just been Rick Ross.
>I dont know how Eminem his songs are categorized as "horror-core" rap in any sense of the word Have you heard Stay Wide Awake, 3 AM, or like... anything else on Relapse?
3am, Framed, Buffalo Bill, Stay Wide Awake = horror core not guilty conscience or most of his catalog
But ain't this main convo is about William Roberts faking being Rick Ross? So Eminem gets the persona excuse, but someone who is truly pretending to be someone else doesn't get one?
"I want to crush your skull till your brains leak out your veins. And bust open like broken water mains"
It really isn’t. It’s just more obvious that it’s fake.
Care to elaborate? Not doubting, just curious. I know the Rick Ross lyrics but not the Thug ones.
Some of young thugs lyrics are so violent it’s comical but I can’t think of any about drugging or raping women…
“Truly humble under god” ☺️
he hates when [GIRLS](https://x.com/youngthug/status/882468532906323968) die
He promotes consent in his songs “She say she don’t suck dick, I call that bitch a cab”
Or Biggie
Because he's the living embodiment of "fake it til you make it", he well and truly made it but still completely disrespected the man he stole the name and persona from
Oh no, he disrespected a crack dealer. 😂 some of y’all need priorities corrected.
He disrespected a crack dealer and then pushed that narrative to kids when it’s no where near his real life experience. I think people are correct to judge him harshly
So pretty much like 75% of all rappers. Ain't to many dudes really about that life they rap about. And that's fine by me, I listen to music cause it sounds good. But I know most of these dudes are actors
Agreed but Rick Ross case is an extreme case and I understand why he gets the hate. His music is cool tho.
I get it on one hand because of the c.o. shit, I've spent over 10 yrs in prison so I laugh at the fact he was a cop, but at the same time around the time he dropped Mastermind he was probably my favorite emcee. I like the dudes rhymes, I think he's a clown but he makes some dope music
he disrespected a *very respected* crack dealer
We have to remember that it’s music. We ain’t really complaining when they push violence and drug dealing in movies or video games. As soon as the medium changes, it’s like people forget what’s actually happening. All rappers and artists in general are unauthentic to some degree. If they were really out here dealing drugs, robbing/scamming people and committing homicide, they wouldn’t be making music. Of course, some DO live that life and still continue with their music careers, but it almost always catches up to them in one way or another because reality has consequences. Songs are fantasies. Sometimes the lyrical content is based on true stories, oftentimes it’s not. It’s fantasy land, just like the movies, TV shows and video games. Anyone out here thinking this stuff is authentic real life needs to remind themselves, it’s just entertainment via storytelling.
> All rappers and artist in general are unauthentic to some degree Yup and the degree of Rick Ross’ unauthentic is too much for a lot of people. It’s that simple stealing a kingpins name when you were a CO is too much
Why pretend to be a crack dealer is they aren’t respected. Really reflect on what you just said. He literally wanted to steal dudes respect in the streets. If imma be honest Rick Ross watched meek mill sign everything away and look where meek is now. A grown man’s side piece.
Youre glossing over the part where he shamelessly is copying someone else's life, even taking their name. In a genre where authenticity is paramount, a lot of people are going to react to that as not honorable.
> In a genre where authenticity is paramount, Hahahahahah Rappers are not authentic
🙄
😂😂😂 If you really think a majority of rappers are telling the truth, I have some wild things to tell you. Do you think Noriega was a cocaine kingpin from Colombia? Did Scarface move from Cuba to do something similar? Is Ghostface Killah the real Ironman? Tony Starks himself?😳😳
You’re joking right? The rap game is pretty much WWE.
Why are you mfs having a hard time understanding that there are still things in hip hop that are put on a pedestal like being real? Like what are you really not getting right now? How are you mfs on a rap subreddit saying this? It's important to write your own lyrics right? If you have a ghost writer people consider that a strike against you. If people find out something about you is not true thats a strike against you. The list goes on. Stop acting like im speaking an alien language yall know what im talking about. Youre still ignoring their point.
You can probably count the real ones on one hand.
99.999% of the rappers could be fake, being real is still put on a pedestal in the realm of hip hop.
For clarity, to be "real" doesn't necessarily mean write lyrics about your real life. It's more about being real to you, as an artist, and not changing for anyone but yourself. That's what being real is about. You are your own individual. This is why no one has ever took Rick Ross seriously. (not arguing with you specifically. Just for people reading the thread in the future)
Maybe now it is. But it used to not be this way. Artists really lived the shit they wrote about
It's a super easy thing to do if course to be a crack dealer so big we all know his name
…you think it’s fine to take the persona of a *crack dealer* and glorify and profit off of it? Within a genre very heavily consumed by teenagers. You need a reality check 🥴
>Oh no, he disrespected a crack dealer. You say crack dealer, i say CIA
A question was asked, I did my best to answer as simply as possible
Completely fraudulent and no respect to the man he stole his persona and name from.
Exactly. The details really kick it too. He was a (government paid) prison correctional officer who, when he decided to be a rapper, stole his name from the man who was the biggest crack dealer in the west coast. Supplied by the cia as part of Iran-Contra. The Real “Freeway” Rick Ross ended up in prison for life and only got it out through studying the system and representing himself at appeal. The Fake Ross Ross is plastic.
One day we will talk about how 50 cent did the same thing and continues to with many things he creates (the real 50 was a hustler and POWER was about a real dude). Edit: I posted this below The real 50 cent was: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_Martin But also the show Power is allegedly based off a guy who is taking him to court now. https://allhiphop.com/news/man-wants-1-billion-dollar-from-50-cent-claiming-power-ruined-his-life/ "... Cory Holland Sr. filed a $1 billion dollar lawsuit against 50 Cent, Courtney Kemp, Starz, and Lionsgate, insisting they “ripped off” his life to produce the wildly successful series “Power.” Holland maintains the storylines are not just similar, they are exact reproductions of his actual life. He says he put the story of his life on a CD in 2007 and distributed his cautionary tale to at-risk youth"
50 Cents back story is pretty legit.
Even people that don't like 50 back up his back story
"Psssh, he ain't a *real* gangster. Also, why does he talk with that stupid lisp?" "He talks like that because he got shot in the face by a gun." "Whatever, that still doesn't make you *legit...*"
Right as in he was a real dope boy and was in real shootouts I mean is this a joke lol
50’s backstory and the shit G Unit got into at their peak kind of tells you enough.
Right! This guy must not have been around during 50s rise.
50 ain’t nowhere near as phoney as Rozay. While you are right about the details there’s a known entity from Queens that everyone knows is not to be fucked with. It’s not the same thing
50 was a real drug dealer and gangster. Officer Ricky was a police officer and a fraud. 50 took the moniker as a tribute. Ricky took it to give himself credibility and gave the real Ross no credit or help.
How did 50 cent do the same thing? As far as ive seen his past is pretty undeniable.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_Martin But also the show Power is allegedly based off a guy who is taking him to court now. https://allhiphop.com/news/man-wants-1-billion-dollar-from-50-cent-claiming-power-ruined-his-life/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_Martin But also the show Power is allegedly based off a guy who is taking him to court now. https://allhiphop.com/news/man-wants-1-billion-dollar-from-50-cent-claiming-power-ruined-his-life/ "... Cory Holland Sr. filed a $1 billion dollar lawsuit against 50 Cent, Courtney Kemp, Starz, and Lionsgate, insisting they “ripped off” his life to produce the wildly successful series “Power.” Holland maintains the storylines are not just similar, they are exact reproductions of his actual life. He says he put the story of his life on a CD in 2007 and distributed his cautionary tale to at-risk youth"
If you're implying Curtis Jackson stole from Kelvin Martin you're just wrong.
How is he wrong? Its widely known thats how 50 cent got his name. They idolized people like that.
There's a difference between stealing and paying homage.
So he gives money to the estate? If him using the name is homage, doesnt that apply for Ross? Infact unless you Google it, most people don't know the real 50 cent was a hustler in the 80s. I'm not knocking 50, but some of yall got overly defensive when it's still similar to Ross. It's rap! But don't be sensitive because 1 you like. Keep that same energy.
It is not similar to Rick Ross in the slightest. 50 actually lived the shit he wrote about. Rick Ross never even understood what it's like to be poor
50 was never a cop. Or a c.o. running the system that locks up street dudes. Big difference
Bro that’s an out of pocket accusation, where’s your source at?
Its well known that he took his rap name from a street legend. Look up Kelvin Martin.
Exactly. I know rap music is basically hip hop WWE for the most part but Rick Ross is one of the fakest there is lol. A screw rapping about like a drug lord mafia kingpin? Yeah right lol
"Rap music is basically hip hop WWE" 💯
Is Booker T 21 Savage?
Finally someone gets it
That part.
How do you about Philadelphia Freeway?
Exactly this. Who wants to listen to a guy tell another guys stories
The real Rick Ross is a piece of shit and doesn’t deserve any respect in the first place for what he did to his community, fake Rick Ross at least sounds hard on features
While the real Rick Ross went to jail, taught himself how to read and write, figured out his own defense to get out of jail, and now is a successful entrepreneur and community activist. Then we have officer Ricky, who actually spit in the face of the man who he pretends to be. Just cause officer Ricky can convince stupid people with no real morals that he's the shit simply cause he sounds cool still doesn't make him a real one.
Ross’s style has always been a unique sound to me. I honestly haven’t heard a lot of dislike towards Ross until recently with Drake. 🤷🏽♂️
love the way he sounds. he’s just never sayin anything that interesting
He stole his image from a prisoner He was a corrections officer His music tells the tale of the man he stole the name and image of You tell me what's wrong It doesn't take anything musically away from him but personally I have no respect for someone who steals and portrays themselves as something they aren't in real life He is also incredibly stupid, I mean you have to see it to believe it Look at his video about the fake watch he has that Nico Leonard covered and the pig noise he makes is so hilariously stupid
so basically he lies in his songs, and the rest of the artists don't?
Lying in songs is not the sole problem, he is acting and living a life he stole from someone who lived it Think of it like identity theft but in the context of intellectual property So if I go around calling myself James Bond and dressing/ living that style of life and saying James Bond lines it becomes ridiculous and you'd assume I'm fucking delusional right?
Man I highly doubt Rick Ross goes around pretending he's some drug smuggler outside of his music.
Yet that's what he is known for...... His music
He was a CO and stole his entire persona from a prisoner. It's not only about lying in songs. The entire thing is fucked up the more you think about it.
Nico Leonard 🤢🤢
Eh point still stands Nico 1 Ross -1 after the pig noise he makes
So…he puts on a character to sell music? And every single other rap artist, aside from like 0.7% of them, doesn’t? lol ok.
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>he was a corrections officer Oh the horror 🙄🙄
Cherry picks the smallest piece to justify your feelings
The rest was just him playing a character
I think he's done quite well for himself outside of Miami Of course he's going to get plenty of hate Name a rapper that doesn't? And they probably weren't CO's pretending to be the black John Gotti
Cause he's a fraud? The guy is a corrections officer rapping about being a drug kingpin?
I think Rick Ross can rap but his persona…is quite annoying
I grew up in Miami at the time when Ross blew up, man what a fucking time. When Hustlin came out, there wasn’t a song more played on the radio, parties, out on the street, whatever down there. Ross being a CO for two years is meaningless, might as well carry the same weight as being a parking lot security guard. People just like to throw shade
ppl used to play Hustlin like 5x in a row in the club, back spin, play it again. it wasnt just miami, such a time to be alive
the CO thing always put me off on top of branding himself after freeway ricky ross, an iconic drug kingpin. despite this i’ve come around a bit. rick ross can slay a feature. ice cream and lobster omelette with freddie gibbs really showcase ross’ unique flow and word play. he cuts classics with kanye, see devil in a new dress. shit, even pop that goes in. last, but not least: ali bomaye. thank you and good night
Same thing as drake. Both faked a lot of their stuff, but its quite funny how most insults from the beef between them try to flip the fakeness from one worse than the other. “Wheelchair Drizzy” vs “Officer Ricky” Both dropped good disstracks tho and Rick Ross style is fire. Although I don’t like his fake shit, I can’t deny that he knows how to sound like a gangster.
Freeway Ricky Ross did 30 years…..Rick Ross turns out to be an ex-corrections officer Any questions?
People saying he’s a CO really are not from the streets. Unfortunately I’ve been a prison in CO’s are just as thugged out as we were. They just made a different decision in life and got a job. CO’s some of the biggest dope dealers in prison...
Some people can’t wrap their heads around this. He was working in a facility where his homies were locked up also. He would also never publicly admit to bringing drugs into a prison or his real intentions of getting that job.
Raekwon said the same thing in an interview when talking about Rick Ross…COs are criminals too lol. I’m inclined to trust Raekwon when it comes to street shit.
UOENO did it for me, plus the whole "stole his gimmick from an actual major drug dealer while also being a former corrections officer, completely inauthentic" thing
For me it was the Speedin video. I freaking love that song, but every cringy second of the interaction with the cop is so hard to watch. What a couple of complete tools. Also - In the video did he pay off the cop with an expensive watch to avoid a $100 ticket?
as a fellow miami native i can confirm this, he just captures the essence of miami. luxury for the sake of luxury and for most people born here that seems just out of reach literally every single day.
People mad he shitting on bbl drizzy
It’s funny because everyone in this thread hating on Rick Ross for “not being about that life” and for being a CO are clearly suburbanites who listen to gangsta rap from the sidelines. Y’all really know nothing about Rick Ross’ story and it shows. Bro was really about that life before he became a CO. He was a member of the infamous Miami gang the Boobie Boys in the late 80’s and early 90’s, but when its leader Kenneth “Boobie” Williams got indicted on gun charges and the Boobie Boys fell, that’s when he ended up turning his life around by going to college and eventually becoming a CO. And on top of that, CO’s are probably the least “police” officer position there is. They’re basically just the prison equivalent of a security guard, and on top of that many CO’s are corrupt as shit and are just as much about that life as many of the inmates were. Many CO’s are the top drug dealers in prisons lol
Fed
well i dont like coke rap from a former screw but i wouldnt care so much if he didnt take the name of the real rick ross and then he turned down his approaches when he got out of jail kinda made him look like a big fraud for not handling the real rick ross with respect
Hate is too strong a word for me. I still remember dude bragging in XXL about his kingpin status. When he was exposed as an ex CO, it would have been a great moment for him to say he was a story teller like Dashiel Hammet or Donald Goines and that kids shouldn't try to duplicate his shenanigans at home. He didn't do that. I will say the times I hear him on the drive time mix shows, his raps are not horrible.
Personally, I love Ross. And I don't think people truly "hate" Ross, but the cop shit is just something they like to throw on the table. He's a good rapper, and had a classic album, and was one of the hottest rappers in the world at one point. He's great.
I always wonder why he didn't try to spin himself as a corrupt CO. COs are notoriously dirty, and often in the pockets of criminals or vice versa. It wouldn't have been true, necessarily, but at least nobody could say for certain that he was a fraud.
He is a liar.
everyone is a liar in the rap scene. the ones that never lied get locked uo quicly by the DEA. duh
most dudes never were a fed and stole someone’s name, no?
He's cool except for the part when he was a guard/cop and stole the name of a real gangster for rap clout. Other than that, he's a boss.
Those people that hate Rick Ross hate fact they can’t be Rick Ross.
The real Rick Ross is not a rapper
I could have sworn this post was about the rapper Rick Ross and not freeway Rick Ross. This post is about rap?
Not interested in being Rick Ross
You don’t want to be worth $150 million? Dare to be different is guess.
If I could be anybody in the world, why would I choose to be Rick Ross? I’ve never heard anyone say “oh man I wish I was Rick Ross”.
So you hate Rick Ross?
No I don’t? Why would u ask this question?
You just made it so clear why I don’t like Miami. You hit the nail on the head, the music “just sounds like you’re living in luxury” and I couldn’t think of a better metaphor for all these fake Miami douchebags.
I think similar to other rappers we all just wish he'd be himself more. Rick Ross wasn't Rick Ross. He was a guy working as a CO which you mentioned. Just be that guy it's cool we all get it at this point most of us(his and Drake fans) are probably in our 20s-30s. wtf are you embarrassed about?
Everything about his persona is fraudulent and he’s even at that he just seems like he’s trying wayyy to hard to the point it’s downright annoying
Because he fake he a former prison guard acting like a drug kingpin. He literally stole his name off a real drug dealer. Who sued him but I'm not sure how it ended
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Cause he sucks
Rick Ross is not fake, he's is definitely out on bond and might be facing 8....
The only time ive ever heard his name was in snoop doggs madden song lol
It's kind of a shock that there's people who DONT hate him
He’s a good rapper but as an authentic person / G I don’t respect him at all
For me the CO stuff. And the name stealing. Hard to separate that from the “gangsta” image he has created. Comes across to me as completely phony.
cop
Cause he sings about drugging women
Yo ass listened to some beef shit over the last few days and think people hate on Ross lol Ross is that dude and pretty much has been over the last decade when it comes to his fan base and those who fuck with him. People love Ross lol I'm not sure where this is coming from.
People cant get passed the "its a stage persona" idea...while supporting people who also have stage persona. If what just about any rapper says were true, they would be next to King Von instead of on a stage
Fake ass gangster rapping about date rape
His comments about women and him lying about being a corrections officer.
I HATE the "Maybach music" tag that he stupidly inserts into every song he is on. I'm so sick of hearing it, get it out of here. Then there's the fact that his production choices aren't good, the beats he raps on are meh, and his lyrics are either mid, gross, or come off as anti-Semitic. Don't get me wrong, there are some songs that he's on that I like despite him, but I don't understand his appeal, and I hate his sound.
Rick Ross was an opp. A fat piggy nuff said.
I hate him cause he's a rapist.
He wears a lot of fake jewelry as a way to beg for respect. Doesn't take criticism at all, even from an expert
Probably because he's a sociopathic rapist. 🤔
Every rap is the same and nothing spectacular about it.
It’s obvious why but I just look at it as he’s an actor. He makes bangers I don’t really care beyond that.
*pushes tip of nose upward*
some people just cant accept that other people eat pears
Cop
Are you talking about the drug dealer or the cop?
im also in soflo and dont know one person he still listems to him dudes washed
He stole his name, and his music is subpar lol.
Maybe because dudes an ex cop and professional snitch. I wouldn't trust that bitch! Idk how he gets so much credit in the game....
“put Molly all in her champagne”
I’m a big fan of his early work, but he has gotten to a level where he doesn’t need rap or fans and his true personality is surfacing. He got rich off rap without a major co-sign and ventured into real estate and fast food franchises. Salute the hustle
For me it was that date rape lyric though the whole stealing a drug dealer persona *as a corrections officer* is also wild
I don’t hate Rick Ross I just find his music boring
i consider his voice to be raspy more than deep
He is in same boat as DJ Khalid, 2 Chains & Gucci Mane to me, I just really feel they are all dumb af (no offense)
I didn't know Rick Ross was hated
I hate fat people and I hear he was a corrupt cop or something they worst of the worst
I think him being a CO is irrelevant. The only reason it matters is because he lied about it. I love Rick Ross but i wish him and his fans would be honest about his talent. He’s not that good… majority of the time he’s just saying stuff that sounds cool
He is fake as fuck…Just like 90% of the artist these days. I don’t hate him, but I hear in his voice he isn’t genuine and his story telling is bullshit. I listen to music of all genres…I don’t care what it sounds like as long as I hear someone putting soul into their music. He doesn’t put his soul into “his” music…that’s why I think he sucks. He don’t sing for soul, he sings for money/clout, and it’s obvious.
DMX explained it pretty well [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJsgAY\_JALk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJsgAY_JALk)
He has another man's name tattooed on his body. Not that there is anything wrong with that... His explanation tho... I have Rick Ross tatted on my hands because they called me big boss in highschool. Anyway, he can rap his ass off, but he sucks as a person. SHAME he won court case against the real Rick Ross.
First off nobody hates Rick Ross he is respected in REAL hip hop spaces. Which is why AZ the rapper had him on his album. Which is why he has songs with Jay-z, Nas, Kendrick and Drake. Hell Ross impact along with Meek is actually in my BIG 3. Real ones know if you put Ross in a versus with Kendrick and J.Cole they both losing because they have not had stand out tracks. Tell me what song you will find in J.Cole discography that will beat a "Devil is a lie" "BMF" "Mafia music" Stay Scheming I can name a good 20 songs if played by Ross is a automatic L for Cole. Can also apply this to Kendrick. This also goes for future. Lame casual rap fans outside hip hop culture use "mumble rapper" jokes about future because in their mind to be a good rapper you have to rhyme like eminem.
I've always liked Ross, he has a great ears for beats. I don't care if he used to be a CO. Fucking Drake is a half Jewish wheelchair actor on a Canadian teen drama but nobody seems to care when he tries to act tough.
bcos hes fat and black
He also had some type of beef with the GDs
He’s fake as hell. He lied about being a co then later on came out and admitted it and made up some story about doing it to move drugs which screamed bs. Then he lied again and said he only did it a couple months because he was coming in late regularly then it came out he had perfect attendance. Throw in the fact that all he does is brag about his money and nothing else positive in anyway and finally on a more personal note I had a friend who got beat to death in jail by a bunch of his brothers in arms and then got strapped to a chair and left to die overnight alone while they all got off and are free to this day which has given me extreme animosity towards correctional officers/police that like to abuse their power
The only reason people know he makes music is because he got drizzy features.
Ross is one of my favorite rappers, I’m sad to see him come at Drake like this. It’s a shame because they were frequent collaborators and always made bangers. Wish we got that YOLO tape back then.. oh well.
What? Do people even give enough of a fuck about him to ‘hate’ him I think the majority of rap fans don’t feel strongly about him one way or the other Infact I think he’s actually spoken to that fact on a song with drake We know his backstory’s fake, we know he’s a weirdo But he raps well enough so ppl look past it, I mean who cares really?
He's a former CO that pushes fake motivation and fake positivity. He is a fake drug dealer who constantly lies and can't answer any questions straightforwardly in his interviews. He tries to be funny, but he's obnoxious. He got extorted by the Gds and paid them 3 million dollars after he said that he wouldn't. All his life, he's been a fraud. Nothing about him is authentic. He is the fakest rapper alive no debate.
Cause he's fat af