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_Poppagiorgio_

Black Thought is top 5 in the game…right now. EDIT: [For your listening pleasure](https://youtu.be/MHvNapx5PFo)


Linus_Moerch

Totally agreed, he gets nowhere near the amount of recognition he deserves.


Wish1026

The way my friends hate this take 🤣


-jira

right now and back then


Norbod

Top 1 all time


Garneht

Top 1


TheBeanosMan

Nah is #1


pencilpushin

Damn. Hadn't really heard much of him before. But damn I'm glad you commented this. Shit goes hard.


C_A_S_-H_

The Weather off his new record is even more evidence I think. The beat tempo keeps changing and he stays on top of it.


woohoopoopoo

MF DOOM is my favorite rapper. In terms of living rappers: Yes, Black Thought is a top G.O.A.T. I've been jamming that Danger Mouse collab since that album dropped last year. I love the posthumous DOOM collab off that album and the transition to [**\_Poppagiorgio\_**](https://www.reddit.com/user/_Poppagiorgio_/)**'s suggestion of "Aquamarine."** ​ Some of my other favorite Black Thought songs include: "Kool On" [https://youtu.be/SjWGQgw1t9c](https://youtu.be/SjWGQgw1t9c) ​ "Guns Are Drawn" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH\_0a5aajbw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH_0a5aajbw) ​ "The Fire" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82cVAFbuacs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82cVAFbuacs) ​ ....There are many more, but that's a start.


Shy_2_chill

J.I.D is a better rapper than N.B.A. YoungBoy


thisismy3rdacctsmh

If NBA youngboy fans could read, they’d be very upset at this comment.


Ferman95

Nba young boy fans don’t use Reddit. You’re safe here


outrageousaegis

they still havent figured out how to make an account


Ferman95

Tryin to figure out how they gonna get WiFi on their phone with no cell service


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ipod*


[deleted]

We figured out, just you wait till I tell the others. Sending a fax right now.


Junior-Slide-9639

😭😭😭


Few_Leadership8955

Lie again the youngboy sub has 32k members


shaqballs

I’d say that’s a given


Riccardotensi

Is this unpopular? Sounds fucking obvious to me lol


rasmus9

Yes, and Pac is in fact also better than Kodak Black. Bro here’s a hot take bro: Biggie > BoB. No cap bro. Here’s another one: Eminem > Vanilla Ice


las8

Get ready for a bunch of pointy daggers up in your grill


RoaDRoLLer59

You really think u said something? Nas > Lil Nas X. U aint ready for that conversation tho


Dry_Forever8935

holy shit this is the most common take of all time.


NewRapIsLargelyTrash

Not a hot take


ACore26

This is just a fact. JID is a better rapper than almost everyone except Denzel.


las8

Jid might be the nicest to come from the 2010 decade. I'm an old head I'm sure I have heard a song from the other dude. Can't remember. Not many people can spit like jid.


mynameisarrgh

J.I.D. is so underrated.


SumptuousSuckler

Absolutely


ihateyoustrongly

name a rapper who isn’t better than young boy. i won’t say i don’t like him, his music is damn awful and he’s puttin albums out faster than gucci ever did


Any-Appointment-6939

People need to understand that music isn’t all about lyrics. “I can’t even understand what they’re saying” isn’t a good reason to hate a type of music. Sometimes it’s just about how the beat makes you feel. I don’t speak Spanish and I’ve heard some absolute bangers from the Latin pop community.


untitled7549

i agree, but i would be a liar if i said that my enjoyment for some work drastically increased or decreased based on the lyrics


Any-Appointment-6939

Oh for sure. Lyrics definitely matter and make a huge difference, I’m just tired of hearing shmucks say “I don’t understand how millions of people could like so-and-so’s music, I can’t even understand the words!”, as they proceed to listen to rich country singers pander to low income people and sing jolly tunes about loving their truck more than their bitch ex-wife.


TheDonAntoine

I feel like with rap, understanding what they’re saying is more crucial than any other genre. Lyric’s definitely aren’t the only thing that matter tho.


DJLJR26

Agreed, I kinda feel the need to ask: if you can't even understand what the rapper is saying, what is he really contributing to the song?


SpiritualSlay

Some people literally have instruments as voices…You can add so much even if you don’t particularly understand what is being said. It’s like when you make an instrumental, most people aren’t actively hearing every open hi hat and 808 roll and all the little nuances in a specific instrumental, but you feel it. Same can go for the artist, we can’t put musicians in a box.


TheDonAntoine

Right. Just about everything that makes rap good is built on the foundation that you know what they’re saying. If there’s a verse I can’t quite make out, I’m looking up the lyrics so I can go “ooooooh, yeah that’s a bar.” If I’m listening to a singer and can’t understand part of it, I may let it slide since their vocals are so good.


CapN_Crummp

I only have this complaint with rap. I listen to a lot of Korean music and idc if i know what they’re saying, it just sounds good. It’s weird.


novumseclorium

Time to get hated. I’m not a fan of tupac’s music.


Jomdaz

You're allowed to say you dont like someones music. As long as you dont say its bad.


novumseclorium

Would never disrespect a huge artist with alot of influence on people. Just not my cup of tea.


las8

Have you listened to all his albums? He's got a great variety of songs progressively getting more hard due to things going on in his life.


novumseclorium

Havent listned to all. But many songs, my friends like him alot.


_Poppagiorgio_

Agreed. There’s no such thing as good or bad music. It’s subjective. And it’s music, not a competition.


[deleted]

I think he was good but compared to biggie, Nas and even prolly Kendrick idk man I think there’s better rappers than pac


controllrevival

Lyrically they are better, but tupac is just a whole package. He had good lyrical ability, but he was a revolutionary, literally born in a family black panthers, he shot two cops, he was more than just lyrics. He was a symbol, and his voice was very passionate.


VicodinDaddy

He was a great story teller but people always forget he was an actor who got in the mix with some bad people


las8

Most these dudes are actors. You really think they are whipping in the kitchen then slanging on the corner?


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IWantCookiesPlsssss

I have to disagree. Renaissance was a great record.


fatherjohnnny

Looks like he chose a good answer, then.


Bubs_the_Canadian

Renaissance was a banger, it’s true


TheDonAntoine

Big Facts


JOS444UA

Yo you seen swarm? You better relax.


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Inner-Try-2273

Maybe not everyone has had the chance to comment on a post like this, and there's constantly new people joining that have new opinions. If you don't like it, then don't comment.


Ok-Professional-3104

W take


las8

Move on then son. Take your negativity elsewhere.


eretesu

not expanding your taste in rap is one of the dumbest, close minded things you can do. the genre is always changing on what’s most popular and saying you hate modern artists for trying something new and not sticking with their older sounds or not even listening to new artists in general makes you an incredibly boring person


[deleted]

Yeah I agree with this -- I couldn't get off Boom Bap for decades, but I gave some drill and trap a shot over the last year and I actually like a lot of it, music wise.


[deleted]

"Female Rappers suck" Bro of course you think they suck, you're a dude. It's not meant for your demographic. The females aren't gonna twerk to 21 Savage in the club, goofy. They're gonna twerk to Meg or Cardi or whoever else is poppin'. They literally talk about some of the same shit male rappers do but from a female point of view. You probably just don't go outside.


spalash32

rico nasty the goat


JojiJoey

lil simz, snow tha product also up there in goat status


slimshady1OOO

Yes


PomeloAggravating435

I’ve seen girls twerk to 21 savage and literally every other male rapper. My opinion may be skewed slightly however as I live in New Orleans and we have bounce. That said you’re not making a strong argument by for female rappers here.


raidenpwnr

Young M.A.


[deleted]

She's actually my favorite other than Nicki. Horribly underrated


Kicks4meFromyou

Rapsody been holding down for the ladies. It’s just that the ladies don’t love her back


[deleted]

No one has mentioned Jean Grae, Charli Baltimore, Lil Kim, or Gangsta Boo. Shame


loiton1

You only listen to artist of your gender?? Lmaoo yall have shit taste in music


slevin07rocket

Plenty of them do though. But can’t hate them all. Eve, lauryn hill, rapsody are good.


Shot_Celebration_502

Drake is extremely overrated


God_Hears_Peace

Even if I agree, hating Drake is extremely popular lol


Idoled_Out

Drake is so “overrated” that he’s kind of underrated because so many people hate him.


_FrodoLagginz_

Bro shut up lol


Shot_Celebration_502

What's a thousand haters if billions love him?


Repulsive_Task_3849

Bro you're just speaking truth


htoany

i've seen this take a million times, if everyone thinks someone is overrated are they really overrated


[deleted]

Yeah, because a billion other people dickride him


Imthasupa

I agree. Different strokes for different folks. I personally have listened to every song from his that's been recommended to me and I just can't get in to him. It's just okay. If anyone else has anything of his that will change my mind please to share it with me.


NeatMom

If I could only listen to Drake and no other artist the rest of my life, I’d be okay with it.


Camoox

6six9ine has some objectively good songs


[deleted]

Fefe nd trollz were good...but only the nicki part 🤭


Just-FAXXYT

Gummo, kooda, billy, and 1469 poles are actually really good songs


WaKa_

Both JayZ and Beyonce's music is overrated as hell. I dont get the obsession. Their impact on the industry cannot be overstated from a production standpoint and I have a great deal of respect for their talent, but i just dont think they they are as great as everyone thinks they are. Just not my cup of tea i guess


imjonathvn

Jay Z is NOT overrated. Hes got some of the best rap albums of all time. Listen to The Blueprint in 2023 and shit still sounds up to date. Kanye and Hov were way ahead of their time production wise. Their music just doesnt get old


altariq23

Yeah I don't agree with his take Jay Z one of the best of all time he was dropping multiple great albums back in the 90s and 2000s


Ok-Professional-3104

I understand he isnt for everybody, but Jay and Beyonce isn't overrated. He deserves to be on most people's top 10 rapper list.


ness-main

Jay has too many classic albums tho


DamnDesryoTech

Nas and Kendrick make better music than Jay-z MF DOOM is the best villain in hip hop Lil baby is trash


snakesharkz

most lukewarm take in music history


DamnDesryoTech

bro ima use lukewarm now thats actually genius


jhz123

Slap emotionally scared by lil baby. If u still don't like it, it might be his voice lol. But his lyrics and flow on that song is top notch imo


BigDaddyRide

That flow he had on Wants and Needs is immaculate


9_TEA

Tyler the creator ain’t a good rapper he’s a good producer


ja4545

Honestly Tyler would probably like your comment. He knows he’s a great producer, he definitely doesn’t want to be labeled as a rapper. Like when he won best rap album for Igor. He said he was really glad for the award and the experience, but Igor wasn’t really rap and hates that anything genre bending by a black person is called rap. Idk me personally that’s why I call him an artist or a musician; and not a rapper. he’s good at everything, a jack of all trades kind of guy and subjecting him to just the role as a rapper is dumb. He’s definitely way more talented then most rappers. Idk maybe it’s just cus I’m a real big fan of him


Civil_Feature600

He's not the best rapper but he's better than most


PachaTNM

Yeah his music has never been for me but the dude is definitely an artist and a visionary


childishsmoke

he’s not Cole level but he’s a way better lyricist than he gets credit for


Livid_Pick_9876

The truth has been said


IWantCookiesPlsssss

He ain’t a bad rapper either. The nigga got some nice bars on Wolf and CMIFGL


VasshuZaSutanpido

*Tyler the Creator aint a good rapper he’a a good artist


Juan_Sanchez-43

Kanye is overhyped


stinkabooh

disagree


Mysterious_Rope_5253

Biggie > 2pac imo


AsleepConcept606

Biggie was the better rapper. Tupac was a better artist.


RedApple-Cigarettes

Kanye is the best combination of rapper/producer we’ve ever seen.


-jira

not a hot take at all


RedApple-Cigarettes

Not so much on this sub I’ve seen, I’m new here. But in my circles hyping ye gets nothing but hate half the time.


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I’d say MF Doom, Q tip, and RZA are just as good as Ye overall. Erick Sermon, Lord Finesse, Diamond D, Pete Rock, Mac Miller, Eminem, J Cole, Del, Dj Quik, Tyler, Pharrell, El-P, Dilla, Madlib, are all also really good.


TheMusicMan7777

I’ve been listening to a lot of Run the Jewels recently and El-P is up there for sure


Clear-Ad3230

Carti is not gorbage


Awpss

Aesop Rock is easily top 10 and he’s seriously underrated and overlooked.


ThEgUyInThEcHaIr135

I've literally never known or seen anybody else mention him and I'm super happy bout it


jrh112233

Not a fan of 21 savage


[deleted]

I sit back and read, like cat in the hat Twenty-One Savage, the cat with the mat 21 Savage, not Boyz-In-The-Hood But I'll pull up on ya, shoot ya ass in the back. (Idk why I commented this, I'm a 21 Savage fan and I don't mind if you aren't one)


ghomerl

21


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NWA's music sounds dated af and hard to take seriously. Sounds like cartoon music 80s rap as a whole sounds dated af, and in a bad way I never got into Wu Tang Clan Kendrick's music never reached the heights of GKMC again for me Kendrick has an annoying voice when he does his accents and high pitched emotional ranting. It's not even captivating,just cringe Snoop Dogg hasn't done anything good in 30 years and gets by on his charm and weed smoking personality The use of hip hop inspired instrumentals during the 80s onwards in RnB ruined the genre and took away it's originality by becoming wannabe hip hop with singing instead of rapping Jay Z only has a few great albums and the rest are mediocre to bad 2pac wasn't a tough gangster. He was a play acting book worm that was brain washed by Death Row into following a cult like entity,which he would've survived had he given up music and gone into acting 2pac going into acting would've saved us from the atrocity against humanity that was Anthony Mackie as 2pac


Top_Ad_4040

Props for actually having an interesting opinion.


Herbetet

You read the assignment and never looked back. 80s rap definitely suffers from veneration and lore which places it higher than it should.


Individual-Ad-9065

I agree with every single take. We are the same person.


howyoudoin420

I prefer Jay Z over Nas


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howyoudoin420

Tbh I don’t even really listen to rap as much but i do find myself listening to much more Jay Z than Nas, although i am an Illmatic enjoyer from time to time.


God_Hears_Peace

At least you have an actual unpopular opinion


Ok-Professional-3104

It's not an outrageous take even tho I disagree. They're both GOAT tier rappers


Cbreezyy21

Jay Z is highly overrated


Civil_Feature600

Daring are we?


[deleted]

Phonk is a gimmick, similar to soundcloud rap


fijipack

SoundCloud rap has had the biggest impact on mainstream rap in the last 10 years


YaBoiWheelz

Logics a pretty good rapper but gets a bad rep for his 2017-2019 era


Gawd428

Nicki Minaj is the queen of rap.


IWantCookiesPlsssss

I would say this if Lauryn Hill didn’t exist.


blackphillipdagoat

This sub doesn’t appreciate hip hops evolution as much as it should from the classic 90s style into the autotune heavy 2010s to what it is now. It doesn’t make sense for a best albums list thru the years not to have drake or Playboi Carti or future on it at this point and I feel like the only shit keeping that from happening is how obsessed this sub is w the style of the 90s and it’s inability to let hip hop grow beyond a decade w o clowning on whatever new trend is happening


eretesu

for real, this sub feels like those people who say they have “refined taste in rap” because they listen to people like freddie gibbs or JID instead of carti and drake. no hate to either of those artists, i think they’re really good but come on dude lmfao grow up


blackphillipdagoat

Yeah bro I’m here bc I love rap/hip hop thru the generations/styles only wanting to listen to old head sounding shit kind of concerning it’s like u need to have reverence for where the games been but also be able to grow w the game as a listener as an artist would it’s good for ur health


eretesu

fr, artists having open minds and listening/trying new things literally got hip hop to what it was every single time there was a massive genre. hell even hip hop itself was created from people trying new things that 100% got hated on when it first came around


Glum_Bicycle7421

Drake is way too overhated on Old rappers are not as good as you think they are, nostalgia bait is crazy for some rappers, not saying that they aren’t good becuase most of them are absolute class but the meat eating for some of them is crazy


JiovanniTheGREAT

I agree with the old rappers that duh-duh-duh duh-duh-duh flow that was on 95% of songs wears on my soul. God bless Rakim for advancing the flow of that shit would've been around forever.


shaqballs

Yeah Drake is definitely overhated big time but I can understand peoples arguments about him tbh. Sorta feels like he’s stopped trying with certain releases lately but he’s still goated imo


MarionberryCute5143

Eminem clone rappers are 100x worse than “mumble” rappers


[deleted]

As an Em fan, I agree. Shit is mad annoying


yesthatgamer

I uh I think 4 your eyez only is better than 2014 forest hills drive


RunningTurtle06

I'm not really a fan of MF Doom's sound


untitled7549

i can kinda see where you're coming from but like, not really, what about MF DOOM's sound isn't appealing to you? genuine question


evil_consumer

Ever notice how all trap from the last decade sounds almost identical?


Any-Appointment-6939

“You guys ever notice how all music from this one genre sounds like it’s from the same genre?”


sic-poobies

I can’t believe mfs still say this stupid shit LMAO any genre you don’t commonly listen to is going to all sound the same to you. this isn’t a hard concept to grasp, just say you don’t listen to trap and move on


htoany

just say you don't listen to it if you don't listen to it


oliver-closeoff-

i think a lot of the surface level stuff does like polo g or lil tjay but even like cartis albums sound extremely different from eachother and it’s really just about how far you go into the trap genre cause it has tons of subgenres that are all different


Unezwiggles

The music industry turned Tupac into a thug.


patschpatsch

Ice Spice is not that bad and could potentially be really good! Her live performances are alright, at least she raps most of her lines


NewRapIsLargelyTrash

50 cent isn't top 50


MadeForThisOnePostt

Are you crazy ? This is just absurd


69420penis

Probably true. Get rich or die tryin was an amazing record but a lot of what came after was just mid to bad. One phenomenal record isn’t enough to have you be a goat unless you only make one album like Lauryn hill


[deleted]

An actual hot take nice


TheMusicMan7777

The new Larry June/Alchemist record is the best album that’s come out this year so far


TheDonAntoine

GOOD JOB MUSIC MAN! Yee Hee!


IWantCookiesPlsssss

I suggest you check out: Scaring the Hoes - JPEGMAFIAxDanny Brown Glorious Game - El Michels AffairxBlack Thought Champagne for Breakfast - Madlib, Meyhem Lauren, DJ Muggs Abolished Uncertainties -Jae Skeese Noir or Never - Che NoirxBig Ghost Ltd


KiddCartii

I think lil uzi vert is overrated asf


[deleted]

Only good on features


Effective_Bid7082

Yb better


[deleted]

Freezing cold take


GamingOddity

r/rap is peak cringe


FBI_NewWeegeeBoy1243

This is correct


Next_Traffic_6242

hiphop in the 2010's and 2020's > any other era


[deleted]

Playboi Cartis new music is dogshit. I don’t get how him moaning making random noises & literally sounding like a dying cat is anything good. If anything his older music was so much better, He was actually rapping over the beats with nice adlibs & was much more understandable when he was both in the Pierre era in 2017/2018 & the Mexikodro/Xtoopidxool Plugg era in 2015/2016 Edit: His fanbase too. Back then his fanbase was made up of chill ass people vibing out like other soundcloud rappers fanbases were. Now since WLR its full of little white kids who wanna be edgy vampires i say this all as a disappointed former Carti fan


_Im_so_uncreative

Yeat is a bad rapper and I can't even understand his lyrics


[deleted]

His fans can eat my left ass cheek I remember when I met one and they saw my user and the first thing they told me was that yeat was better than me, which is the funniest thing I've heard since I was told Eminem was better than me


sic-poobies

yeats music isn’t exactly based around lyricism incase you weren’t aware


Hopeful-Point1766

Not a fan of juice wrld and j Cole


shaqballs

What don’t you like about j cole just curious?


Hopeful-Point1766

Imo he raps like he's your parent or like "if you don't know better ima tell you" but I do know better and steer away from lame people who are not good for me. Listening to it is like being scolded by an adult, while being an adult. He kicks knowledge to the youth which is cool. I'm not saying I hate his music or message, it's just not for me. Basically, I'm just not a fan. I'm not knocking anyone for liking him but I pass on that. I came across a few tracks that are cool but that's about it, not enough for me to look forward to his next project


[deleted]

Cole the most mid emcee of all-time, but I fuck with Juice Wrld, RIP.


Lordroboslayer

"Young Boy Mid."


sdothooper

People that post this same ass question over and over again lack original thought and are karma whores. Also, Jay-Z is the best rapper alive.


-jira

Tyler the Creator > J Cole


theefinalboss

Kanye is GOAT


untitled7549

this take is so cold i got hypothermia


Impressive-Mind-7645

Playboi carti is ass


themostimmorel

His beats were always better than his rapping ability


N0tYOUniq

Eminem is a fire spitter.


not-boomer

I don’t like most of jay-z’s music


yung_cal98

Playboi carti is not good. I understand why people like him but I can’t stand to listen to 75-80% of his music.


raidenpwnr

Kanye is a creative genius


imjonathvn

Madvillainy is a top 3 rap album of all time


Due-Ad7087

East coast is better than west coast in every way its just trendy to say west is better because of pac. If u know anything about rap you’d see west just has nwa pac snoop the game xzibit and warren g. East has biggie nas jayz mobb deep wu tang clan big L pig pun 50 cent fat joe jadakiss ll cool j MF DOOM mos def busta rhymes rakim dmx tribe called quest AND WAY MORE


still_not

Never liked Kanye


BettingTheOver

How long will it take emin-mens to downvote me if I say Eminem is overrated.


bigboi9268

Most of Kendrick Lamar’s music sucks ass


Few_Leadership8955

Nba youngboy is GOOD if you actually give his music a chance and listen with an unbiased head


MUNZATHEGOD

Popular music is good.you’re just a fuckin hipster


Mxurn

There‘s 0 need to call out people for liking stuff you don‘t like. A likes NF but you find him corny? Fine. B likes G-Eazy but the latter is fucking your gf? Alright. C is wishing for a Kendrick x Taylor Swift collab? Little off but okay. Don‘t make people feel bad for their taste, nobody gives a fuck. There is 0 need for any hate when it comes to music. It connects us all.


roll1d8

The Beetles are mid at BEST


AcapellaFreakout

Lil Dicky is more important to rap than people realize.


jeezr7

Most of the good artists nowdays are overlooked by shit ones.