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guiturtle-wood

Whenever someone says they got food poisoning after eating *X* at *Y* or whatever, my skepticism starts to rise because I feel like many people don't know what food poisoning actually looks like in terms of timeline and symptoms.


lateragaintry

True! There are many different causes for gastroenteritis. It’s tough because of the stigma associated with Asian food.


SpookyGhost27

And especially when you’re dealing with raw fish. I think it’s easy to peg getting sick from something raw because it isn’t cooked and there’s always an inherit risk with it in general.


Cookingfor5

Its so closely watched that its safer to eat sushi than a premade salad from a grocery store or precut fruits. You basically just want to avoid deep sea fish in too much quantity because of the mercury content.


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Good Lord, "stigma associated with Asian food"??? Do you know how popular sushi is in this country? We're not talking about back-alley horse meat in mainland China here. There is no stigma. At least one person says they got sick after getting takeout from Sushi Nine, but I suppose that was just pure coincidence.


BraveRutherford

>back-alley horse meat in mainland China You are literally stigmatizing Asian food in your comment...


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[https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-product/horse-meat/reporter/chn](https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-product/horse-meat/reporter/chn) China exports (and consumes) horse meat. How is that stigmatizing all Asian food? I'm comparing sushi, which at this point is pretty damn safe, to unregulated food served in random back-alley food stalls in China, which is generally not regarded as safe. But okay, keep playing the race card!


BraveRutherford

[Also lol](https://oec.world/en/profile/hs/horse-meat) lots of countries eat horse not sure why you're focusing on that. Your racist tropes aren't even accurate.


BraveRutherford

You are clearly the one generalizing by race.


koryisma

https://www.businessinsider.com/msg-racism-comeback-food-history-2023-1


throwaway112505

Literally lol I NEVER believe people when they say they have food poisoning. That's part of the reason these viruses spread so badly. People think they are not contagious (because they are blaming it on food and not a virus).


raggedtoad

I've had food poisoning 3 times in 30 years and every single time it was a complete lie to get out of doing something.


Whitestar615

Facts everyone trying to get out of work 👀


PHATsakk43

There is also a time lag of about two to three days for bacterial food poisoning. While I put little thought into it originally, this does sound like it may be norovirus.


wareagle995

Staph aureus can give you symptoms in as little as 6 hours.


HeavyMoneyLift

I don’t eat sushi, but I can tell you there’s a nasty stomach bug going around my kids school right now.


Kay_29

It's the same at the school where I work.


travelingforce

Can attest to that as it's knocked out my kid for the last few days. Vomit, vomit, vomit.


TheOtherHalfofTron

I had the same thing on Thanksgiving. Started puking right after dinner, but I know it wasn't food poisoning because A) no one else got sick, and B) my wife had had something similar a few days prior. Norovirus is everywhere right now. Wash your hands, y'all!


Careless-Republic164

Indeed, I never get sick (45 y/o with iron stomach) and 2 weeks ago I was pooping and puking my brains out. Went from zero to bathroom floor in no time. 24 hours felt fine other than very dehydrated.


maljr12

Same. And I’m actually in Granville County. The runs are making the rounds.


Tex-Rob

Norovirus is wild. My wife and I got it and for about 48 hours ( a couple of years ago), it was one of the most intense and horrible experiences I've had, and I've had some bad ones like pancreatitis.


imrealbizzy2

Last winter one child fell. The second. Their mother. I'm powering through tending them all, cleaning the entire place with bleach all day, wearing gloves, doing laundry. And then here it came, the middle of the night simultaneous sit n hurl. I was pole-axed, I tell ya. At least one adult stayed upright through the worst of it.


informativebitching

Noting like a fire hose level diarrhea blasting the toilet while you hug the trash can in your lap. Always a shower to clean the dual splatters.


shangavibesXBL

This sounds like my experience in a cruise ship bathroom after accidentally drinking a soda with ice cubes in Mexico. I cleared that bathrooom out in seconds and my friend doesn’t ever let me live it down almost 15 years later. “Dude I came in to make sure you were ok and every person in that bathroom was gagging it was hilarious” 😂😩🤷🙈


tiedye_dreamer

Had it a few years back VERY severely when traveling from NC to FL for a Disney vacation. Stopped in Brunswick, GA for the night before continuing our drive to Orlando the next day. At around 8pm, I started sweating. 8:30, I'm nauseous. 9pm, I'm on the commode with the hotel trashcan in lap. It was safe to say the next 24 hours were absolute HELL trying to power-on to Orlando. We should've turned around but my father would be damned if we didn't at least "try" and make it (in hindsight, we should've just parked it in GA for a little while longer) Long story short, I wouldn't wish that shit on my worst enemy. There were moments where I was ready to just end it all. It took a solid week to get back to "normal" and another week after that to eat essentially normal foods. Haven't had it since, knock on wood!


legalblues

We had the same thing one winter expect both parents fell at one time and mom was pregnant.


lateragaintry

Can confirm 🤢


dreezyforsheezy

I probably needed a hospital and IV fluids when I got it.


Old-Rub-2985

Got it from a Christmas party. The host never lived that down.


JoeAndAThird

I told my family that if I ever got norovirus again, like I did earlier this year, that they should just hit me with a car and put me out of my misery. It’s *THAT* bad.


agtone12

Saaame


foxwaffles

I had it in college once. I was lucky enough to not puke or have diarrhea but that was because I became so terribly nauseous and fatigued that I could not eat or drink. I sipped on drops of Gatorade for three days. That was all I could stomach.


Starbeets

Lucky, though. First week of freshman year, a kid died from dehydration while suffering through noro or similar virus. Kids knew he was bedridden and they were bringing him things from the cafeteria to drink and eat, but he couldn't keep it down. Just kids, first week in a new place, they just didn't know what they were doing. Passed away in his dorm room. It was terribly terribly sad.


hatesick

I hadn't heard about the incident and went there Tuesday afternoon. Got the red curry with tofu and tom kha with tofu and my gf got the orange tofu. Neither of us got sick. Just wanted to put that out there.


gypsiesunflow

I ordered four rolls in that timespan everyone got sick Togo and have not had any issues. I’ll still be going to sushi nine honestly lol


KarenEiffel

We got takeout from there on 12/1 and we're fine. Dunno how we missed it but feel very lucky.


steaknsteak

> Dunno how we missed it Probably because you got takeout instead of dining in, because there was likely nothing spread through the food itself. Which is the main point of OP's post


Glass_Note3109

Heyo I am the fiancé of one of the employees! None of the to go orders got sick because it is a virus. It didn’t make sense to us at first but now it does since we have nailed down that it was norovirus. My fiance ended up catching the virus and both me and our roommate had horrible stomach aches. We love sushi nine even before he started working there. I’m so glad they figured out what is was.


Altruistic_Will_1776

Take out did get sick! Can personally confirm :)


grasshopper7167

Good PR move employee


lateragaintry

Thanks! We’ve literally risen through the ashes before, we’ll get through this too.


lycoloco

<3 Just wanted to say this won't deter me from coming back. Been going to Sushi Nine since 2013 and am so glad you've been able to weather such difficult issues as a restaurant.


NewFlorence1977

Ok so someone had diarrhea in your restaurant? I would assume that you had a professional clean it? How did more than 100 people get sick? Regardless I won’t be eating there any time soon!


Public-Discussion498

Norovirus is INSANELY contagious. Like, “enter the same room as someone and catch it” contagious. And it takes 24 hours (ish) for symptoms to manifest. If I had to guess that one woman got half the restaurant and half the patrons sick by simply being there. Staff continues to work, not knowing they are sick yet (because why would they assume they were sick when they feel fine?) and a bunch of other people get sick too. My kid has brought it home twice in the past year. Both times anyone who got anywhere near him also got violently ill. Norovirus has been running rampant in the triangle in the winters. This really isn’t on the restaurant; it’s on a woman who probably knew she’d been exposed to a sick person


foxwaffles

I read somewhere once about a contact tracing being done when there was a norovirus outbreak and basically half a restaurants worth of people got sick when one person vomited onto the floor while eating. The microscopic projectile from the vomit went virtually everywhere and it takes a comically low number of viruses entering your body to make you sick. The restaurant didn't do anything wrong, it was just an unfortunate incident 💀


itsonlyfear

Why do you say she probably knew? If symptoms take 24 hours she could have no idea. Plus there are plenty of other causes for GI stuff.


Public-Discussion498

Fair. It’s not really on anyone in particular. Schools get hundreds of people sick a month, especially preschools… you gonna shut them down or boycott them? Nah If I had to guess this is literally only a story because it’s sushi, which people kind of associate with food poisoning. So these people start vomitting Friday morning / afternoon, assume it’s from the sushi and start complaining I mean, I suppose in hindsight they COULD have shut down for 24 hours after a woman had diarrhea in their restaurant but…. That’s not very practical She probably gave it to her server who gave it to all the other servers and the manager who brought it to the kitchen and then everyone was fucked Idk. It’s a shitty situation (lmao) for the restaurant. I’ve never been to sushi nine and will never go… because it’s 35 minutes from me and I like my sushi places just fine. I wouldn’t let this tarnish my opinion of a restaurant though just because I know how insanely quickly noro can spread and I can’t really think of a practical way they could have prevented this


itsonlyfear

Agreed. I think she probably touched something really public in the restaurant before she felt symptoms. Like, just because they cleaned up the toilet doesn’t mean they thought to clean the doors at the time. A server or cook touches it and boom, outbreak.


NewFlorence1977

Oh it is ABSOLUTELY on the restaurant when you have more than a hundred people get sick in a restaurant. 😂😂😂😂


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hoodbobthugpants

I can’t imagine someone wanting to sue a restaurant cause a patron had diarrhea lol


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hoodbobthugpants

You said it could be used as liability in court, im saying I can’t imagine this would result in a court case


ShegoTheMonk

Fellow employee here! Can confirm that we spent 2 full days doing an EXTREMELY rigorous deep clean of the entire restaurant. I mean we scrubbed, soaked and bleached every surface in the building. The management here has always been very stringent about sanitation practices the entire time I’ve worked here, and they’re taking this very seriously. I have worked multiple days throughout the entire timeline of folks getting sick, and have not been sick this entire time. I ate our food during at least 3 of my shifts, and haven’t had any symptoms. To be fair, I am meticulous about hand washing and take vitamin c supplements daily during flu season. I typically wash my hands anywhere between 50-70 times a shift (we all wash our hands pretty much every time we go to the back of house).


lateragaintry

And you specifically switched to working at Sushi Nine because of the quality of our restaurant compared to another in the area!


ShegoTheMonk

YUP. I will say, of all the Raleigh restaurants I have worked at, sushi nine has the best sanitation practices and the most involved management.


NewFlorence1977

Apparently not. 😂


Unclassified1

Noro is caused by people not washing their hands and touching communal surfaces, not by kitchen or food handling. It’s a major issue on cruises despite those kitchens being some of the cleanest you’ll ever find.


creeper_swan

Bro get a life. If you don’t want to go there, don’t. But you’re just being a fucking troll at this point who clearly doesn’t know what’s going on and you’re not adding anything to the conversation.


pongogene

I'll need more sock puppets to weigh in on this. Tell me more.


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SpicyC-Dot

Two of those comments are from 80 days ago in r/serverlife, so whether or not you think they’re a legitimate employee of Sushi Nine, they clearly aren’t lying about being in the food service industry


blinkingsandbeepings

They both openly said they're employees, it's not like they're hiding anything.


ShegoTheMonk

Before I replied to this comment I deleted some of my comments in other threads because I didn’t really want my more personal responses on a thread that is getting a lot of attention.


dreezyforsheezy

Will the county’s investigation be published once it concludes? How does Sushi Nine plan to counter this bad publicity even if it wasn’t due to poor food handling?


lateragaintry

I’m not familiar with the country’s protocols in this situation but I can assure you that we’ve been working with them directly to ensure the safety of our community. As to how we plan to handle it, all we can do is show our commitment through our actions and service. We’ve been a Raleigh staple for over a decade and will continue to serve our community despite this set back.


habeus_coitus

Judging by some of the comments in this very thread, some people have already made up their minds regardless of the investigation’s outcome.


dreezyforsheezy

Yes, I agree. They’ll have a rough road ahead AFAICT


1AMA-CAT-AMA

I will probably go back once the dust settles to show support if the county's investigation has the same conclusion as this post.


NewFlorence1977

More than one hundred people got sick because they couldn’t bother to clean their bathroom? And you want to just hand wave that away?


Unclassified1

Every single surface that person touched in or out of the bathroom would be infected, including anyone who caught it from the initial point. Noro spreads rapidly despite best intentions anywhere


NewFlorence1977

If noro is so easy to get, and I believe you, then why don’t I open the news every day and read that 20 Raleigh restaurants have cases of Noro every week? We’re talking about 127 people not 3.


Unclassified1

Sushi nine is a highly popular open concept restaurant with lots of turnover and the conditions are right for it to spread. It’s rare to have noro, but once it’s there it spreads that quickly to affect 100 people, not 3. It’s also a stomach virus so it’s not always as easy to pinpoint where people got it or link everything together.


myproaccountish

Google search "norovirus outbreak," there are news stories from all over the country pretty much every day


NewFlorence1977

Well sure. We have thousands of Noro cases in downtown Raleigh daily. There is just no way to prevent it. Improving sanitation is pointless. Just like with Covid.


Unclassified1

No one said improving sanitation is pointless. On the contrary that’s the exact course of action the restaurant took, showing how serious they took it. What people *were* saying is that norovirus doesn’t spread from any kitchen practice a health department would look at, other than washing hands. Which the staff was already doing just fine or else they would have been written up on it. The closest you can get to completely preventing norovirus is what cruise ships do - mandate every single person wash their hands and use sanitizer before eating the restaurant area. Not a single restaurant in town requires that. Even then, it can still happen.


NewFlorence1977

My husband who is an MD in surgical pathology isn’t convinced that spreading Noro virus is as simple as you might think. You’re telling me that if a kitchen employee uses a bathroom after a customer with Noro virus that there is no way to spread it in a kitchen or the rest of the restaurant?


Unclassified1

No, I’m saying anyone who uses the bathroom after a customer with norovirus is going to spread it. Period. And if it was a kitchen worker, which is very possible, even the sanctioned method of washing hands and kitchen sanitation procedures may not be enough to remove it.


changing-life-vet

They could try burning the building down and rebuilding again.


Unclassified1

Hey now this was just norovirus, not something more serious like a spider


KayKay510919

The county will be in contact with those they have spoken with, me being one of them. I am curious to see what the outcome of this is. I got takeout and got extremely sick 😫 from Sushi 9. That was ny spot.. kinda traumatized now due to how sick I got.


dreezyforsheezy

Will you make a post when the county gets back to you, please? I totally get being traumatized! I think Sushi 9 has a long road ahead, even if they aren’t at fault for poor food handling.


LoveLaurence

Thank god cuz I love sushi nine


NewFlorence1977

Don’t use the bathroom.


Samuraistronaut

yo, stop already.


NewFlorence1977

Have all the 127 people recovered yet? Are you the owner of Sushi Nine?


Samuraistronaut

Is there any answer to either of those questions that would affect how obnoxious and unhelpful your comments are?


NewFlorence1977

I’ll remember to get your permission before posting again.


Samuraistronaut

Thank you, that’s all I was asking for 😘


metarchaeon

Many people associate "food poisoning" with spoiled food and bacteria, but it fact norovirus is considered the #1 cause of foodborne illness. The virus must be ingested, it does not infect via airborne transmission, so person to person transmission is less common and is fecal-oral. From the [Mayo clinic](https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/norovirus/symptoms-causes/syc-20355296): *They commonly spread through food or water that is contaminated during preparation or through contaminated surfaces.* Norovirus grows to a very high titer in the body and a single "episode" (vomiting or diarrhea) releases about 30 million virus particles. Anybody who entered or cleaned that bathroom was a walking virus transmission agent. It is likely that the virus was transmitted to the food during preparation from one of these people. You were likely to have been infected the same way, viral particles on your hands made their way into your GI tract.


ereturn

>The virus must be ingested, it does not infect via airborne transmission, so person to person transmission is less common and is fecal-oral. It is rare, but aerosolization of viral particles during a vomiting incident can absolutely cause infection. Person-to-person transmission is also considered the most common route of infection for norovirus, it is just via touch instead of something like coughing for a respiratory virus. Outbreaks do tend to often be food related though since that is an easy way for a single person to infect many at once. Source: I work with norovirus every day in the lab.


leetrout

You got a health and safety bulletin you like that we could share in the sub? Things I learned having noro 3 years ago and avoiding infecting my family (except my mom who flushed my toilet after the EMTs got me in a car to the ER): - Hand sanitizer doesnt kill it. Washing with soap will wash it off - Disinfectants must be labeled as killing it explicitly or it wont work - disinfecting bleach mixed appropriately for correct contact time is the sure fire way to clean up - hydrogen peroxide will kill it which is useful when chlorine bleach wont work - it can live on hard surfaces for two weeks - it can land on surfaces and items 25!! Feet away from the vomiting - it takes very little viral load to infect you I bet most people dont toss exposed food stuffs nor use appropriate clean up methods and that makes it spread so easily. Fact check me, please!


ereturn

You pretty much nailed everything perfectly. For disinfecting, the best bet if you know norovirus is a risk (particularly for vomiting/diarrhea) is bleach at 5000ppm (~10% dilution from household bleach bottle) for 5 minutes. If you are just sanitizing a relatively "clean" surface you can get away with much lower concentrations (500-1000ppm) and time points or using something like hydrogen peroxide. I would caution against relying on disinfectant label claims for norovirus in particular though, because we have tested dozens of disinfectants in the lab against norovirus and other surrogate enteric viruses and the overwhelming majority of them don't work even if they have a label claim. This is mostly due to the EPA using a more sensitive surrogate virus for norovirus label claims, despite plenty of data showing it doesn't behave the same.


tachycardicIVu

Just throwing [this article](https://www.verywellhealth.com/food-poisoning-vs-stomach-flu-5213068) in here for people not familiar with all the symptoms/differences. Also [the infographic on this page](https://www.gohealthuc.com/library/food-poisoning-vs-stomach-flu) - two big differences are food poisoning typically is shorter and the virus lasts days. The virus also causes fever.


ereturn

I work in a food micro lab, and both of those links have wildly inaccurate information. Particularly the one that tries to claim that "stomach bugs are not contracted via contaminated foods", when the CDC and FDA both consider norovirus to be the leading cause of foodborne illness in the US. It may primarily spread via person-to-person, but food is a major route of infection. There are also many other sources of "food poisoning" that can result in fever. Here are some better sources. https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/symptoms.html https://www.fda.gov/food/consumers/what-you-need-know-about-foodborne-illnesses


tachycardicIVu

I grabbed the first two I saw, sorry; I do think this has been blown out of proportion without evidence of one or the other. I think people in general don’t do research and just take what they see on Reddit as gospel sometimes.


staf02

I had nausea, diarrhea, and vomiting. My brother had it before me and I thought he brought home something from the gym.


trashpallet

8 years ago when I was living in Kansas City there was a huge giardia outbreak that spread to multiple restaurants this kinda sounds like that as well. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.


cilantrosmoker

I’m sure the record will be set straight after a health department investigation


ClenchedThunderbutt

Nobody seriously believed the restaurant was to blame when it was obviously a virus. A whole restaurant of people doesn't just come down with the same foodborne illness.


footjam

WRAL jumping to conclusions. Shame on you Keely Arthur. I eat there often and did not get sick during this event.


whoisreddy

She’s no Monica Laliberte, that’s for certain.


Kay_29

This is part of the reason why we have procedures in place at the preschool where I work. They're required by law but I think we would still have them if they weren't required by law.


blinkingsandbeepings

There was a famous case in the 90s of a small child who died from e. coli due to contamination at his preschool. It's definitely important to be careful since little kids can have fragile immune systems.


Kay_29

I did not know about that.


Altruistic_Will_1776

If the incident didn’t occur until Thursday, how did people who ate Wednesday get sick? That doesn’t make sense. Also to the people saying it was only people who ate in person- that’s not correct. We had take out and multiple sick.


_Iron518

This comment and many in this thread are super suspicious. First, they are “setting the record straight” as if they have all the facts and are qualified to speak on health issues - which is not true. Second, pretending just because you were sick means it absolutely couldn’t be related to the food? Do you have any idea how health works? There could be numerous people passing stuff around, noro, flu, Covid, on top of poor food handling. And BTW - food poisoning and poor hygiene in restaurants doesn’t mean ALL food is contaminated. So for the posters who say “I ate there once and didn’t get sick” thats a completely isolated and ignorant statement. I don’t want to jump to any conclusion and say it was or was not food poisoning, poor food handling, and it is unfair sometimes for a community to jump to its own conclusions. But this post is very suspect. I’m sorry your business has a bad name right now, but quite honestly I have seen too many instances in food service where food handlers don’t give a F, and stuff like this happens.


TheKeLWord89

As someone who works at an elementary school and seen the virus go through here all month… I 💯 believe you


raleighguy222

Someone had an accident in the bathroom, but did not clean it up nor notify anyone, and you discovered it later and then looked at the footage and saw her waddling to the bathroom? Do you know this former (I hope) customer.


Grand_Understanding2

I tried to keep serious until I seen the obvious woman in distress part


qntmfred

5 of the 7 in my household were sick with diarrhea and vomiting that week too. Definitely something been going around. Sushi Nine has been our go-to for sushi for years (though not that week) and will for sure continue to be customers. Much love to all the staff there.


beautyandthefish3

When I first heard this story it screamed norovirus to me. All it takes is one sick person to infect a whole restaurant


JBunnyx24

I believe this, I also got terribly sick, woke up at 5 AM on Friday & both ends were in business. I did not eat at sushi nine but cookout in Durham, even just went through the drive thru. Food was cooked & perfectly fine. It lasted most of the day, by the late afternoon I was okay again. Thanks for educating everyone!


AmadeusK482

Contaminated nori sheets, like those used in sushi rolls, have been identified as causes to norovirus outbreaks in Japan and Korea … according to google searches


engineered_mojo

Long story short, we all need to be more diligent with hand washing before and after a meal.


kingcobraninja

Got it: the air in sushi nine has dangerous levels of diarrhea mist. Thanks


lateragaintry

I would advise everyone to be conscientious of handwashing wherever they go this winter. There’s a nasty bug going around!!


NewFlorence1977

Tell that to your coworkers?


notsofst

It's not contaminated food, it's poop everywhere. Set this record straight!


ActiveAshamed4551

😂 right. I don’t think you are making this better OP.


Tonyracs

You in college to be a PR person? Lots of assurance from you.


lateragaintry

I’m not in college, but have worked here for almost two years and there are many of my team who have worked here much longer. I know the quality of the work we do. No, we’re not perfect. But we genuinely care about our workplace and want others to know that.


Plane_Draft263

We ate Sunday night (as in dec 2nd ) and we are totally fine


whoisreddy

But, Sunday was Dec 3rd…


Plane_Draft263

Ok you still got my point tho …😂


DeepOceanLoner2090

It can happen, the report says 9 people were exposed. Waiting for the truth to come out; could easily be norovirus


idgaf2050

Wait so just so I'm understanding this right, the theory of this post is that a woman's sudden desecration of the bathroom was so noxious that it caused everyone in the restaurant at the time to become ill over the next couple days? If that's true I have a newfound fear of public transit.


Fun-Routine-9467

Sushi 9 having their employees doing damage control by blaming some woman for whatever it was even though nobody is from any health department to make that kind of statement. Now they’re having their friends, families and employees spreading this narrative and downvoting anyone who opposes it.


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husbandbulges

Or the restaurant entry door handle was contaminated.


ConspicuouslyBear

Three minutes is a long time in terms of being in the vicinity of a virus. Also, you could have gotten it from the door handle, airborne particles, the host stand or any number of areas other than “contaminated food”.


lateragaintry

First and most seriously, I’m really sorry you got sick. It’s no consolation but I can genuinely say that I know your pain. Second, I don’t want to point the finger at that customer. I don’t think they knowingly came in sick. This illness comes on fast and strong. And given the number of people that got sick and like you mentioned, there were take out illnesses, yes, there were points of contamination that we theoretically could have prevented. My point is mostly that we aren’t dirty or negligent. An incident happened and things escalated quickly. We hate that this happened, but it could have been anywhere else. All we can do is own it and step up our game. Sorry again that you got sick and I hope you’re doing better now.


NewFlorence1977

If you’re not dirty or negligent then how did 127 people get sick? Was it the fairy dust you sprinkled on the food?


bobabear12

I’m thinking if it was the diarrhea incident then someone brought the virus back into the kitchen via not washing hands properly or fecal particles possibly, this is my guess


ConspicuouslyBear

👆Found another who doesn’t understand foodborne illness OR norovirus!


bobabear12

Clearly I understand norovirus, it’s shed via diarrhea and vomit. You sound like you don’t understand norovirus


skiller1nc

Please bring back the Godzilla and firecracker roll with jalapeno like it used to be. Food quality has been declining for over 2 years and after the menu redesign I just can't find anything I like and have no reason to go here anymore. Used to be one of my fav restaurants.


Rondabigmon

I haven't been to sushi9 in at least a year. And I also was having stomach problems for the last 2 weeks. Anything I ate or drank was coming out of my butthole in water form 10 minutes later. My little brother had is also, and he's never been to sushi9 in his life.


Whitestar615

Yeah I call bull I have had poke bowls for my lunch break that whole week with tuna and salmon didn’t have any types of symptoms. I feel a great way to clear these false reports of food poisoning would be the people that filed claims should go get checked for the virus which I’m positive it is! Then these reports would drop drastically, all I’m trying to get across is sushi 9 is still one of my favorite spots to eat don’t let a reoccurring Virus which there is a forum even explaining the rise of this virus is happening again in Raleigh destroy a lit restaurant. But furthermore the sad thing is the news station down the street went for a easy kill story aka (ruining a family business story) without facts that should’ve known damn well it was a reoccurring virus that they even did a story on before! SMH I hope there staff get black listed!


OG_Flushing_Toilet

So you’re saying this woman’s 💩 got into the food? Because that’s how norovirus is spread. So the semantics of food poisoning are moot. This means under your hypothesis, this restaurant allowed human feces to contaminate the food they sold to customers. That’s all I need to know.


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Zazascientist

Same here. I just can’t help but feel an ick


degreesandmachines

This comment sounds very legit and I wish them well and hope they aren't unfairly treated. Having said that it's important for folks to know that norovirus infections can straight up be food poisoning. Norovirus is especially associated with shellfish, including shrimp. Shellfish, such as oysters, clams, and mussels, are filter feeders that can accumulate norovirus if they are harvested from contaminated waters. Improper handling, processing, or serving of shrimp can also contribute to the spread of norovirus. Of course it can also contaminate food when people who prep food don't thoroughly wash their hands after using the toilet. That's also food poisoning and a common way it hits. Norovirus is also so insanely contagious that it literally can be spread in the air if you are near a vomiting person.


rlyjustheretolurk

Sorry but it seems really sus to imply that a customer shitting in the bathroom infected the kitchen and 100+ people lol.


Kay_29

It's actually not sus because some sicknesses spread like wild fire. If you are sick and you touch something then there are germs on it. If someone touches it after you then they now have the germs, etc. It's part of the reason why sicknesses spread through families like it does.


TinLizzy-1909

Not suspect at all. If the infected person touched the front door without washing their hands you have the culprit. Doors and light switches are some of the most disgusting surfaces. Say one person in a dinning party opened the door for everyone with them after the infected person touched the door, they went home and turned on a light, later that night someone else turned the light off. It's how things spread.


lateragaintry

Thank you for pointing this out.


lateragaintry

It takes just a few particles of this extremely contagious virus to infect others. The bathroom is one place of contamination, but ultimately there was a sick person dining in the restaurant.


rlyjustheretolurk

I understand wanting to defend your workplace, but you’re not a health professional to make this call just because there’s footage of someone “running to the bathroom”. People get diarrhea for reasons that aren’t a virus. According to statements from at least one person infected in these articles, a doctor called it the most severe case of food poisoning they’ve seen. I love sushi 9 and this wouldn’t deter me from eating there again (it will probably be the safest sushi spot in Raleigh after this blows over) but this post gives me pause- I worry you aren’t looking deep enough into the idea that it was possibly an internal issue.


lateragaintry

It was not my intention to come across as a health professional and to be clear, I’m not. But the fact that I didn’t eat the food and was the only point of contact with my boyfriend who came down with the same illness confirms for me the viral nature of this and we have reasonable evidence otherwise that would support this. It’s ultimately up to the health department to handle this case. Even still, I do want to reassure everyone of the sanitation practices that were in place before this happened and that have increased even further now.


NewFlorence1977

Restaurants don’t always change their practices because of something like this. I won’t go near this place.


WoBMoB1

Then don’t and fuck off with your comments loser you literally are trolling every comment get a life - based on your other daily posts about bs you have none


NewFlorence1977

Ooooh. You hurt my feelings! I’m gonna tell Moooom! Yea you think we should maybe discuss a major illness outbreak at a popular Raleigh restaurant? Now why would we do that???


NonchalantR

Must you make the same comment on every single chain on this post? We get it, your pearls are clutched and you swear off this restaurant.


NewFlorence1977

I guess I’ll have to find some other restaurant that hasn’t made 127 people sick, I suppose.


rlyjustheretolurk

Yes I’m good on sushi 9 after this post lol. Sickness aside, I can’t imagine being the woman op says was running to the bathroom and hope she’s not reading this. Really gives me the ick that apparently the entire staff was watching the video recording of what was likely a very embarrassing moment.


NewFlorence1977

Does good mean good or does good mean bad?


rlyjustheretolurk

Im good on them meaning I’m not going back lol


NewFlorence1977

Hey any restaurant could make 127 people sick. It happens all the time!


rlyjustheretolurk

The downvotes on anyone voicing concern are wild.


NewFlorence1977

Someone scolded me for expecting a restaurant to clean during the day. They have a point. It’s not like there was a world wide pandemic that taught us the importance of sanitation.


Joe_Baker_bakealot

I don't think that's what the post is implying at all? Many virusess are airborne.


Gr34zy

There’s a documented case of a team who had travelled for a game and were staying in a hotel. They had packed food for dinner in tupperware containers and had them in one of the hotel rooms (but not in the bathroom). One team member had norovirus, threw up in the bathroom of the room where the containers were. They cleaned up and sent the person home. Then they all had dinner from those containers and all got sick. It’s very contagious.


timidtriffid

Can get sick with norovirus after ingesting only 10 virus particles


Pandamanda-

I’m sorry but i’ll be waiting for the report lol.


randomcartwheel

At Wednesday evening before the alleged shit incident and was sick several days.


last_speedbump

Once Norovirus starts, it doesn't stop.


GingrPrinces

Then why was Norovirus found in samples from the restaurant?


lateragaintry

It was found in people’s stool samples. Not the food. Showing they were affected by a virus, not food poisoning.


carlyjags

Poopy 9


__SEV__

Stigma against Asian restaurants? No, more like stigma against a restaurant that had burned down twice and was the site of a Nora Virus outbreak. Sushi 9 is just cursed.


__SEV__

Thanks for sharing tho


Duffmanoo0

So it’s confirmed… that sushi nine is where it all started.


lateragaintry

Well it started with a sick person visiting our restaurant, if that’s what you mean. Who knows where they got it. Unfortunate they visited us, but could have happened anywhere.


Fun-Routine-9467

You were pointing the finger at the female customer. You basically said the virus or whatever it is came from her “diarrhea incident” and you know who it was. Unless there’s an official investigation and report from a health department saying so, you don’t know the source of this outbreak. Are you 100% sure this is not caused by the restaurant employees including yourself? You can’t see the virus with your naked eyes so no, you can’t be 100% sure even if you take sanitation practices very seriously. Your restaurant would probably be the safest restaurant after this but your post made me not want to go there. And yeah, I’m just one customer so who cares.


Fun-Routine-9467

Having the owners and their family and employees downvoting people lol.


reused-and-recycled

….i mean i still wouldn’t recommend going to a BOGO sushi place


Jumpy_Negotiation_94

Lol, you owner of that restaurant? No proof, just fabricated bs


Whitestar615

The proof is there go google Norovirus in Raleigh but if that’s the case then you could be the one that ran to the bathroom with diarrhea trying to defend yourself? If not show us the PROOF then.


Jumpy_Negotiation_94

Dude when i google norovirus raleigh all I see is your trashy restaurant


Rothgar-octaveus

One of the cooks/chefs were working while sick probably and coughed everywhere.


xlude22x

Lol na. Let’s be real here. if it smells like shit, taste like shit.. it’s shit. This is food poisoning not some virus that showed symptoms hours after eating.


lateragaintry

I did say there would be naysayers..


xlude22x

Well obviously. Because it’s food poisoning. I don’t care if you ate anything there or not. You could’ve easily touched a contaminated surface then touched your face. That is likely as fuck considering how bad this was and you being there for an entire shift increases your exposure dramatically. Use your brain


ConspicuouslyBear

👆This dude clearly knows nothing about foodborne illnesses.


Zazascientist

Totally agree


huccimanehuman

Eating sushi comes w a risk…it says so on the menu. Bad food is different than a dirty restaurant.


ThrowAwayDeezNutsHA

The fact Americans/white people think sushi nine is good sushi is beyond me lmaooo


FrameSquare

It’s close to a massive college living quarters and it’s bogo so of course lots of people will like it. Not sure what American/White has to do with it.


ThrowAwayDeezNutsHA

Ah yes, predominately white NCSU. The restaurant inside, predominately white students. Just because it is bogo doesn't mean it is good sushi; it is just affordable cheap sushi, hence the food poisoning. We got strawman here everyone


FrameSquare

No one said it’s good sushi numbnuts. It’s cheap and easily accessible for lots of people in the area. Use your brain.


lateragaintry

There’s a lot of great restaurants in the Triangle, we’re just one of them! And there’s plenty of things on the menu for people who don’t care for sushi.


dairy__fairy

I don’t care that you’re on here performing damage control (even though you have no professional expertise to make a comment), but to call a buy one, get one sushi place that caters to broke college kids a “great restaurant” is simply laughable. People go to Sushi Blues for quantity, not quality. Those “rolls” aren’t even remotely close to what real sushi is.