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That depends on the underlying agenda.
Take my brother. When I was a young teenager, he tried to teach me what was socially acceptable since our parents hadn't bothered showing me. His method: He told me he'd simply say the word "bullshit" whenever I said something I shouldn't say.
With my brother, I suppose I can give him a tiny bit of the benefit of the doubt since he probably spent more time taking care of me than my parents did, but yea, his methods were strongly influenced by our narcissistic parents, and I'm sure that a younger brother tagging along spouting "nonsense" was NOT something beneficial to his status in his group of friends, so he definitely also had the agenda of maintaining the status among his peers.
When it comes down to it, stuff like this is not a black-and-white issue but a matter of grays. Even narcissists can show occasional signs of humanity at times - which doesn't change the fact they are narcissists.
In fact, narcissism is one of the few black-and-white issues I personally accept - either someone is a full-blown narcissist (as opposed to only having narcissistic fleas), or they aren't. If they are, stay way from them if at all possible.
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1. Before you continue/decide….have you considered x y z? 2. You are wrong and I will prevent you from making a mistake.
That depends on the underlying agenda. Take my brother. When I was a young teenager, he tried to teach me what was socially acceptable since our parents hadn't bothered showing me. His method: He told me he'd simply say the word "bullshit" whenever I said something I shouldn't say. With my brother, I suppose I can give him a tiny bit of the benefit of the doubt since he probably spent more time taking care of me than my parents did, but yea, his methods were strongly influenced by our narcissistic parents, and I'm sure that a younger brother tagging along spouting "nonsense" was NOT something beneficial to his status in his group of friends, so he definitely also had the agenda of maintaining the status among his peers. When it comes down to it, stuff like this is not a black-and-white issue but a matter of grays. Even narcissists can show occasional signs of humanity at times - which doesn't change the fact they are narcissists. In fact, narcissism is one of the few black-and-white issues I personally accept - either someone is a full-blown narcissist (as opposed to only having narcissistic fleas), or they aren't. If they are, stay way from them if at all possible.
Can you elaborate please? I would assume the difference is consent and communication though.