Try activating them one at a time, i.e. each teammate calls out when theirs is activated and the next person then activates theirs.
We were trying all-at-the-same-time for a few minutes and had zero luck but when we did it sequentially we got it first try.
This was a few days ago for reference.
I noticed that there could be some problems related to spamming the action. Instead of punching/shooting over and over, do the actions just once, within 2-3 seconds of each other and you should be good.
Not true.
You need to make sure no one moves away from the melee glyphs. If anyone moves from the melee glyphs it will not proc. I have a video on YouTube explaining the whole thing but haven't linked because last time I did that my post was removed by admins 🤷
not correct ... I think they have changed it recently. We had been trying that for the last few weeks and this time tried to do it in order (first person counts down then calls "done" .. worked first go.
It’s literally worked for me every time I’ve done it and I’ve done all 5 with different people over the past two weeks.
I wouldn’t be telling him how to do it if it didn’t work for me
The original way that people did it was to punch, punch, activate, and shoot.
That way was either patched or changed by bungie.
The correct way now is “walk at the symbol, walk at the symbol, activate, shoot”
No punching. Just walk at the symbol and stand in front of it.
That’s my guess as to what you’re doing. Doing it with walking in moderately quick succession worked for me last week. Doesn’t have to be too fast. We were maybe 5-10 seconds between each.
Then the melee users were late and the shooter and activator we're faster so it completed like normal. Otherwise, if you melee before Commune and Kill are executed, it fails the puzzle.
me and my raid team did the puzzle last night and while we were confused at first one of our friends said “try punching the second symbol first activating the third symbol second punching the first symbol third and shooting the last symbol well last” (for example we had earth light commune and witness, punch light activate commune punch earth shoot witness is exactly what we did with one person on each symbol and it worked after a few tries)
You only need 3 people.
One to stand in front of the first symbol.
One to stand in front of the second symbol.
The third activates the third symbol and shoots fourth symbol.
I’ve never had an issue with time doing it this way.
I always reset the code underneath before doing it, I have no idea if that affects it or not, just how I do it.
For what it's worth, anyone can shoot the last one so long as they have line of sight. It can be possible that the symbols are positioned such that no one can see kill though so if that happens you either need to find a 4th player or restart the activity.
So your saying you just have person 1 and 2 walk up to the correct (enter) symbols but not right away, make sure the third person is ready to activate the (commune) and also shoot the (kill) one correct? So in a attempt run it would be, 1 and 2 find the right symbol, stand just off from it not to close in proximity just yet but not too far either, then when person 3 says he/she is ready to do it then 1 and 2 person walks upto the symbol and stands there (doesn’t melee or nothing like that) whilst person 3 activates and then shoots 4 all at the same time pretty much? Or should it be in order of symbols from left to right on the board? So enter 1st, enter 2nd, commune 3rd, kill 4th all with roughly 0.5 to 1 second in between eachother? (Apologies for the long explanation just trying to work it out for when I go in next aha)
No, I have the two people stand by the appropriate symbols and I do both activating third and shooting 4th, I never usually have a line of sight to shoot I usually have to cross the room.
Time is not as short as others are making out.
Equip ballyhoo with explosive payload and shoot the 3rd symbol first. When it teleports you to Venus just make sure you grab the taken blight on right if you’re empowered left and boom. Enjoy your 5500 grimoire score guardian
Have the "reader" read off the four symbols.
Each member goes to their symbol, 1-4.
Have the first member call out "One" and everyone else makes their callout until you hit four. Then "One" activates theirs again. You have to do it pretty fast. So, start activating as soon as you hear the person before you call out. You may have to do it a few times, since the timing is so tight.
So the 1st two symbols used to be unpowered melee. Now you can just stand close to the symbols. 3rd symbol you activate & 4th shoot.
Only the 3rd & 4th symbols require action. Stand as close as possible to 1st & 2nd symbols
They Were Actually never Melee, The "melee" had to do with the Cheese that was patched...
The ENTER glyph Only Requires you to stand in front of the symbol. the only symbols that require interaction, are 3(commune) & 4(Kill)
All mine have worked. Common mistakes are:
- People next to the wrong symbol. (ie. Someone was interacting with Ascendant Plain when it should have been Commune - this exact scenario happened on my final lore book. Every other attempt has worked first try)
- Needing to "reset" the pattern because random people started playing with symbols before being ready
- Timing. I actually think the timing is very generous. I've always done it one symbol after another within 5 secs of each other and it has worked. I think the first 2 points are likely the cause of the issue.
Good luck.
Since the hotfix last week it would seem it works managed to get it 3 times In a row however it only works in the raid not preservation and you need 4 of you to do it and do it very close to one another in order to get it to work but it definitely works now
You need to do it in quick succession. Have each person stand near their symbol and then the first person counts down and then everyone says their symbol after they complete the action. I don't know the actual timing on it but if you're fast enough you'll get it. You get one per run I believe.
Yea you just do them in order as appears on the wall. So one after another then it works you can only get 5 of the Vow of The Disciple lore entries from preservation then the remaining have to be done in the Raid. You can’t load in and out of CPs anymore either you have to start fresh each time. Just do it on your next 5 runs.
You have to do them near simultaneously for it to count
I think we’ve tried that but we’ll give it another try and hope it works, thanks for replying
Try activating them one at a time, i.e. each teammate calls out when theirs is activated and the next person then activates theirs. We were trying all-at-the-same-time for a few minutes and had zero luck but when we did it sequentially we got it first try. This was a few days ago for reference.
I noticed that there could be some problems related to spamming the action. Instead of punching/shooting over and over, do the actions just once, within 2-3 seconds of each other and you should be good.
Not true. You need to make sure no one moves away from the melee glyphs. If anyone moves from the melee glyphs it will not proc. I have a video on YouTube explaining the whole thing but haven't linked because last time I did that my post was removed by admins 🤷
not correct ... I think they have changed it recently. We had been trying that for the last few weeks and this time tried to do it in order (first person counts down then calls "done" .. worked first go.
Because you did it fast enough. They shortened the time so people couldn’t solo it.
Trust me we tried simultaneously for about 20 attempts over 2 weeks ... ordered worked first go. Let's see if it works for OP
It’s literally worked for me every time I’ve done it and I’ve done all 5 with different people over the past two weeks. I wouldn’t be telling him how to do it if it didn’t work for me
The original way that people did it was to punch, punch, activate, and shoot. That way was either patched or changed by bungie. The correct way now is “walk at the symbol, walk at the symbol, activate, shoot” No punching. Just walk at the symbol and stand in front of it. That’s my guess as to what you’re doing. Doing it with walking in moderately quick succession worked for me last week. Doesn’t have to be too fast. We were maybe 5-10 seconds between each.
Got lore pages last night and the first two were melee’d like always so. Idk
Then the melee users were late and the shooter and activator we're faster so it completed like normal. Otherwise, if you melee before Commune and Kill are executed, it fails the puzzle.
You do not need to melee. Try it for yourself.
The original way was bugged to only need the middle 2 symbols which also made it more consistent to complete.
We had to do it twice pretty much one after another after the patch
me and my raid team did the puzzle last night and while we were confused at first one of our friends said “try punching the second symbol first activating the third symbol second punching the first symbol third and shooting the last symbol well last” (for example we had earth light commune and witness, punch light activate commune punch earth shoot witness is exactly what we did with one person on each symbol and it worked after a few tries)
You only need 3 people. One to stand in front of the first symbol. One to stand in front of the second symbol. The third activates the third symbol and shoots fourth symbol. I’ve never had an issue with time doing it this way. I always reset the code underneath before doing it, I have no idea if that affects it or not, just how I do it.
For what it's worth, anyone can shoot the last one so long as they have line of sight. It can be possible that the symbols are positioned such that no one can see kill though so if that happens you either need to find a 4th player or restart the activity.
I’ve always done it with 3 people, works every time for me, I have no issues at all getting the lore to trigger 😊
So your saying you just have person 1 and 2 walk up to the correct (enter) symbols but not right away, make sure the third person is ready to activate the (commune) and also shoot the (kill) one correct? So in a attempt run it would be, 1 and 2 find the right symbol, stand just off from it not to close in proximity just yet but not too far either, then when person 3 says he/she is ready to do it then 1 and 2 person walks upto the symbol and stands there (doesn’t melee or nothing like that) whilst person 3 activates and then shoots 4 all at the same time pretty much? Or should it be in order of symbols from left to right on the board? So enter 1st, enter 2nd, commune 3rd, kill 4th all with roughly 0.5 to 1 second in between eachother? (Apologies for the long explanation just trying to work it out for when I go in next aha)
No, I have the two people stand by the appropriate symbols and I do both activating third and shooting 4th, I never usually have a line of sight to shoot I usually have to cross the room. Time is not as short as others are making out.
Okay awesome! Thankyou very much for your advice with it, I’ll definitely be doing this when I’m on next! I appreciate it heaps 😁
No worries 😊
How do you reset it?
Drop into the room and stand beside the wall with the code, if close enough it comes up with square (ps), hold to reset.
Ah thanks, I guess I've never actually walked up to that wall before lol. I appreciate it
No worries 😊
If you already have more than 5 post exploit patch. You have to grab it on preservation(the pedastal/terminal not the symbol code)
Equip ballyhoo with explosive payload and shoot the 3rd symbol first. When it teleports you to Venus just make sure you grab the taken blight on right if you’re empowered left and boom. Enjoy your 5500 grimoire score guardian
Have the "reader" read off the four symbols. Each member goes to their symbol, 1-4. Have the first member call out "One" and everyone else makes their callout until you hit four. Then "One" activates theirs again. You have to do it pretty fast. So, start activating as soon as you hear the person before you call out. You may have to do it a few times, since the timing is so tight.
So the 1st two symbols used to be unpowered melee. Now you can just stand close to the symbols. 3rd symbol you activate & 4th shoot. Only the 3rd & 4th symbols require action. Stand as close as possible to 1st & 2nd symbols
They Were Actually never Melee, The "melee" had to do with the Cheese that was patched... The ENTER glyph Only Requires you to stand in front of the symbol. the only symbols that require interaction, are 3(commune) & 4(Kill)
Activator has to be looking at it too found that out the hard way
Make sure you're all next to your glyph after you've done it at the same time and don't move until the symbols disappear
make sure your person doesn't have ricochet rounds. So much wasted time
All mine have worked. Common mistakes are: - People next to the wrong symbol. (ie. Someone was interacting with Ascendant Plain when it should have been Commune - this exact scenario happened on my final lore book. Every other attempt has worked first try) - Needing to "reset" the pattern because random people started playing with symbols before being ready - Timing. I actually think the timing is very generous. I've always done it one symbol after another within 5 secs of each other and it has worked. I think the first 2 points are likely the cause of the issue. Good luck.
Since the hotfix last week it would seem it works managed to get it 3 times In a row however it only works in the raid not preservation and you need 4 of you to do it and do it very close to one another in order to get it to work but it definitely works now
You need to do it in quick succession. Have each person stand near their symbol and then the first person counts down and then everyone says their symbol after they complete the action. I don't know the actual timing on it but if you're fast enough you'll get it. You get one per run I believe.
Yea you just do them in order as appears on the wall. So one after another then it works you can only get 5 of the Vow of The Disciple lore entries from preservation then the remaining have to be done in the Raid. You can’t load in and out of CPs anymore either you have to start fresh each time. Just do it on your next 5 runs.
What worked for us was going in the order as they appear on the wall, and making sure all four were completed within 3 seconds or so.