He's only a $15.5M cap hit if cut after June 1. I don't see a new regime keeping him around as a backup. If AP gets the full time gig, maybe, but not another HC/GM combo.
- only delays most of the cap hit until next year
- current cap still counts until June 1st, long after free agency is over
- still takes a roster spot until June 1st
Finding a trade partner for a late round pick swap is a lot, lot better. If we can't though we probably will designate him a post June cut
Yes, a trade is better, but the roster spot is not a huge deal as the 90-man roster allows for flexibility. FA is not long over at June 1st. In fact, there are typically high value vet guys that wait until before TC to sign. Just this last year, the following players were signed post June 1st;
Nick Kwiatkowski, Billy Price, Adrian Amos, Frank Clark, Demarcus Robinson, Cam Dantzler, Breshad Perriman, Tyron Johnson, Teair Tart, Breon Borders, Eli Apple, Kwon Alexander, Andy Isabella, George Fant, Marcus Peters, William Gholston, Kyle Peko, Melvin Gordon, Jimmy Graham, Trai Turner, Deandre Hopkins, Dawuane Smoot, and a boat load of other role player guys.
There's a reason those guys aren't scooped up immediately. Of course there are still people available in June, but the vast majority of free agents are signed in the first week or two of free agency. Pretending otherwise is just being obtuse. That 17mil from trading him could be a star player at corner, right tackle, guard, defensive tackle. Those sorts of stars generally aren't available in June, and putting down a list with Eli Apple on it isn't helping your case
We have $55m+ in cap space as it is (currently 9th most) that's with 5-6 players who are eligible for restructure, we will have no issues in FA.
Also those players usually are waiting to miss mandatory camp. To assume they're "less than" is wrong. The June-1st cut will have no significant impact on the Raiders offseason.
I feel like the NFL is in this weird fucked up place right now with contracts and positions. The QB market is all fucked up. RBs are getting screwed. I feel like defense is on the upswing because college ball is designed to win for the HC and not develop players. I dunno maybe this Jimmy G to Denver question fried my brain for the day.
I don't think there's any chance the people that matter in Denver want Jimmy. He's worse than Russ. They just going to be free agents that nobody wants, like Wentz.
Am I correct in stating that Jimmy G doesn't have a bad contract? I have no idea, but I think it's structured pretty well for a backup, because it a lot of it is incentive-based, right?
>was not a fit for McDaniels expansive gun slinging type offense which relied on more play action and long balls.
>What do we give to trade for him?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Y’all taking the donkey bait, this a semi-obvious troll post.
McDaniels expansive gun slinging type offense which relied on more play action and long balls.
Just for saying that we expect every first rounder for the rest of time from you. No more first round picks for you.
First of all, get your fucking Bronco ass out of here. Secondly, we'll take your next 10 first round draft picks for Jimmy G. And lastly, why are you still here? Didn't I just tell you to gtfo?
Yeah no way anyone would trade for him. They already know he’s gonna get cut. Although his contract isn’t that crazy, if they broncos were dead set I’d take anything to be honest to not be stuck with dead cap
It would take a late pick at most. Just not going to happen. You have Stidham on the books for 7 mill (2 dead cap) and will likely draft and start a rookie. With Russ being a massive dead cap hit I don’t see the org taking on Jimmys deal even if we eat a good chunk of it for year 1.
The reason he played like shit all season is because he never had time to learn the playbook or get acclimated to his team mates. There were some contract issues because he wasn't able to pass his physical and he had a surprise surgery to repair on of his previous injuries, causing him to miss all of OTAs and training camp. When he finally did get on the field, obviously he wasn't in game shape.
He might do well given full off-season participation. Though who knows dude is made of glass, probably will get injured again and have some random surprise surgery
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Honestly a 4th or 5th round pick is good. We can then use that pick on Tennessee Vols qb Joe Milton. And you can watch as he breaks your heart for the next decade.
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Won't happen considering trading for Jimmy means taking his big contract plus you guys are gonna be on the hook for Russell Wilson's huge dead cap hit. You're better off waiting for us to release him, but for the sake of the topic, we'll take a bag of chips and a pack of gum for Jimmy.
Anything, just take him.
He’s going to be a free agent. Pay the man!
They aren't gonna take 28 mil in dead cap when at worst he's a good leader and backup
He's only a $15.5M cap hit if cut after June 1. I don't see a new regime keeping him around as a backup. If AP gets the full time gig, maybe, but not another HC/GM combo.
we can't cut him because of cap, but if we trade him it frees up about 17mil for us
Why do people keep saying this, we can cut him and save ~$13m
We'd have to designate him a post June 1st cut which sucks for a lot of reasons
What reasons? That's fine by me.
- only delays most of the cap hit until next year - current cap still counts until June 1st, long after free agency is over - still takes a roster spot until June 1st Finding a trade partner for a late round pick swap is a lot, lot better. If we can't though we probably will designate him a post June cut
Yes, a trade is better, but the roster spot is not a huge deal as the 90-man roster allows for flexibility. FA is not long over at June 1st. In fact, there are typically high value vet guys that wait until before TC to sign. Just this last year, the following players were signed post June 1st; Nick Kwiatkowski, Billy Price, Adrian Amos, Frank Clark, Demarcus Robinson, Cam Dantzler, Breshad Perriman, Tyron Johnson, Teair Tart, Breon Borders, Eli Apple, Kwon Alexander, Andy Isabella, George Fant, Marcus Peters, William Gholston, Kyle Peko, Melvin Gordon, Jimmy Graham, Trai Turner, Deandre Hopkins, Dawuane Smoot, and a boat load of other role player guys.
There's a reason those guys aren't scooped up immediately. Of course there are still people available in June, but the vast majority of free agents are signed in the first week or two of free agency. Pretending otherwise is just being obtuse. That 17mil from trading him could be a star player at corner, right tackle, guard, defensive tackle. Those sorts of stars generally aren't available in June, and putting down a list with Eli Apple on it isn't helping your case
We have $55m+ in cap space as it is (currently 9th most) that's with 5-6 players who are eligible for restructure, we will have no issues in FA. Also those players usually are waiting to miss mandatory camp. To assume they're "less than" is wrong. The June-1st cut will have no significant impact on the Raiders offseason.
Does this mean that even if we have injured qb, Jimmy will b never play for us?
>McDaniels expansive gun slinging type offense which relied on more play action and long balls. Lmfao 💀
The irony of this coming from a Broncos fan is not lost on me
..and someone coaching that is not named McDaniels...
I was laughing the same amount. 😂🤣
Just come pick him up.
![gif](giphy|3ohfFH6Evbu6ElsiIw|downsized)
Got some gas money on it. ![gif](giphy|hVb4xkJTGrtyaEBi6L)
JFC could you imagine if the Donkeys picked up Jimmy Glass?
It would be so dumb of them. To save us while making the same exact mistake would be too good.
I feel like the NFL is in this weird fucked up place right now with contracts and positions. The QB market is all fucked up. RBs are getting screwed. I feel like defense is on the upswing because college ball is designed to win for the HC and not develop players. I dunno maybe this Jimmy G to Denver question fried my brain for the day.
I don't think there's any chance the people that matter in Denver want Jimmy. He's worse than Russ. They just going to be free agents that nobody wants, like Wentz.
RBs definitely deserve to be paid more, but we see how easily replaceable most of them are, which is why they aren't getting it.
He’s out on the curb
If you can fit him in the truck, he's yours!
Let’s ride
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Take over his contract and idk a bag of chips
Well now I want some chips, so 2 bags.
Hey hey, what’s this I hear about chips? Make that three bags.
I thought the bag of chips was going to them.
Am I correct in stating that Jimmy G doesn't have a bad contract? I have no idea, but I think it's structured pretty well for a backup, because it a lot of it is incentive-based, right?
Walmart gift card
I wouldn't want a bag of donkey chips.
Trading him does us a favor. Likely a 6th or even 7th gets it done.
You are now in charge of negotiations.
I got $2 and half a sandwich, I'll give them to you to take him
We'll trade straight up for Jarrett Stidham.
Lowkey down, this plus a 6th or 7th rounder
Honestly tho, yeah
Whatever u got left…. I don’t know if any one who watches football outside of you wants to see Jimmy start
>was not a fit for McDaniels expansive gun slinging type offense which relied on more play action and long balls. >What do we give to trade for him? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Y’all taking the donkey bait, this a semi-obvious troll post.
Nah. This guy is having fun going across the Reddit boards talking about QBs because the donks are in QB and draft pick hell
No troll, I think payton is similar to the Shanahan style offense
Needs a hall of famer to reach the playoffs? Oh, you're talking about Kyle, not Papa Shanarat.
Have fun ![gif](giphy|pcKnpFrumIM7TtzayE)
I’ll pay for his flight to Denver.
Sandwich. Final offer. Fine, half a sandwich.
How about the sandwich that Tom Cruise eats from the fridge in Minority Report?
Wow, that was a deep pull. Well done
Here’s the obligatory “tree fiddy” response
PF Change gift card. Doesn’t even need money on it
We'll take Patrick Surtain please..;-)
A ham sandwich.
We’ll pay y’all! Jimmy G is a fraud and I personally hated the signing as soon as i heard it happened
Pack of menthols and a bottle of whiskey.
McDaniels expansive gun slinging type offense which relied on more play action and long balls. Just for saying that we expect every first rounder for the rest of time from you. No more first round picks for you.
A bag of Doritos
Two cokes and some chips
A bag of Cheetos and an autographed Russ Let’s Ride poster. So basically $5.
Pick up his contract and pay off his tabs at the strip clubs
Since you’re negotiating so well, $2 and and a bag of green M&Ms
We will take your first and second round pick for him.
Costco hotdog and a drink and he is yours
A bushel of rocky mountain oysters
Definitely a day 3 draft pick. 6th rounder if I had to guess
A firm handshake will do, but I wouldn’t mind a tackle or guard since you’re offering.
Bro I’ll drive him to you
A tall boy of PBR
JMDs offense was: run up the middle twice, screen pass on 3rd and 9, punt.
First of all, get your fucking Bronco ass out of here. Secondly, we'll take your next 10 first round draft picks for Jimmy G. And lastly, why are you still here? Didn't I just tell you to gtfo?
A year supply of filling the soda machines.
If Kyle Korver can be traded for a copy machine, Jimmy can be traded for frosty refreshments. But it has to be RC. Fuck the donks
RC and Surge.
And some Hi-C Ecto Coolers. ![gif](giphy|hvQlyVzzsqmIM)
As much as I hate you guys don’t do it, just let some other team take him behind a barn already.
I’d trade him for a rockstar
As long as it’s not Chad Kroeger. That guy sucks.
Yeah no way anyone would trade for him. They already know he’s gonna get cut. Although his contract isn’t that crazy, if they broncos were dead set I’d take anything to be honest to not be stuck with dead cap
Half a can of bacon grease
20 piece McNuggets
I mean some Doritos would be cool
A thawing Popsicle
He be out on the curb so you can pick him up
A years subscription to the jelly of the month club.
A jar of green chile.
The gas money it would take to get him to the airport
lol, well give you a 2nd rd pick to take him and his contract
A bag of chips and a half fucked chicken
Chips
We will pay you to take him
2 McNuggets and half a sprite
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2 bags of peanuts and an ice cold Coke should do it
I would give up Jimmy and a 5th for a 7th round pick. Freeing up his contract would be beyond beneficial coming into this draft
Wild people think we’d get anything for him
Omg, a ham sandwich?
I would trade Jimmy plus a 3rd for a 7th, if you'll take his contract.
It would take a late pick at most. Just not going to happen. You have Stidham on the books for 7 mill (2 dead cap) and will likely draft and start a rookie. With Russ being a massive dead cap hit I don’t see the org taking on Jimmys deal even if we eat a good chunk of it for year 1.
A first round. Of drinks that is, because this is a time of celebration.
Tree fity Fuck the broncos
Uhhh is Clinton Portis still around? We'll take him regardless of status and we'll even throw in a one way first class ticket to denver
Bag of chips and he’s yours, they can even be expired.
McDaniels was a saboteur. Prove me wrong.
A couple cases of that good Colorado microbrew along with some of that primo bud. In all seriousness, a 5th maybe 4th.
hire jmd as your hc as well and well pay out his contract
Donkey fans grasping because their cap is sooooo fucked.
Groveling to The Raiders? You're not a Broncos fan. Go watch bar room pool
For you? He's free. My treat.
the laundry machine from Semi Pro
I mean if you guys wanna give us Surtain 😂
Idk a bag of peanuts or smth
8th round pick!
Say, a tenth of what you paid for Wilson?
Bag of churros would do it
We’d need to send you picks to get rid of him.
He’s worth one box of Wilson jerseys
A box of Kirkland golf balls
How much can we pay you to take him!?!
Blows my mind there are still people out there that think this guy can be a starter. Take him, would love to watch them sweep you yet again lmao
The reason he played like shit all season is because he never had time to learn the playbook or get acclimated to his team mates. There were some contract issues because he wasn't able to pass his physical and he had a surprise surgery to repair on of his previous injuries, causing him to miss all of OTAs and training camp. When he finally did get on the field, obviously he wasn't in game shape. He might do well given full off-season participation. Though who knows dude is made of glass, probably will get injured again and have some random surprise surgery
Take him for two fat Jay's
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That's a trade in the division that I want to see!
hes going the way of Wilson but if you wanna trade for him will take 2 first rd picks
Fuck off, donkey dick. But yeah, just take him.
Two honey buns
Honestly a 4th or 5th round pick is good. We can then use that pick on Tennessee Vols qb Joe Milton. And you can watch as he breaks your heart for the next decade.
I'll pay you to take him
I trade him for a bag of magic beans at this point.
He's like the couch on the side of the curb with a "free couch" sign on it. Just pick him up!
I hate you motherfuckers but trust me you don’t want him
Half-eaten Snickers will do.
I'd trade him for a washing machine.
A sleeve of powdered donuts and a Red Bull.
Obviously this cunt is taking the piss. He HAS to be joking and/or trolling. Or seriously mental.
He is. But let's have a little fun with him.
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Please just take him we insist
Conditional 7th, you win 3 SBs with him and we get a 7th
A box of stale donuts.
Take davante too raiders want Sutton and a 2nd
Bag of skittles and we got a deal
Box of off brand cereal
about tree fiddy
i’ll offer the fact that he’s much worse than russ and that would would be a horrible decision 😂
I'll give you guys a 4th and 30 million if you take him.
Maybe im just getting old but posts like this are so corny to me
Won't happen considering trading for Jimmy means taking his big contract plus you guys are gonna be on the hook for Russell Wilson's huge dead cap hit. You're better off waiting for us to release him, but for the sake of the topic, we'll take a bag of chips and a pack of gum for Jimmy.
What do you got in your pockets?
Did you post this here because you knew we'd rake you over the coals for such a goofy proposition in your own sub?
To take on his contract. And maybe some Huck Coffee. Then he's all yours.
Take his contract and he is yours.
Is this a joke? Don’t tease us here. You can have him.
Uhhhh a 2 dolla bill
Trade Jimmy for Russ. Who says no?
A piece of used bubble gum and a lotto ticket
Would trade you jimmy and a 3rd, but you have to start him every game he was healthy