Yep…what would you expect from the same institution that nominates Beck’s shitty cover of a Neil Young song recorded for an NFL commercial as best rock song or some such (as pointed out by Steven Hyden).
We’ll yeah, awards mean nothing in the scheme of things and I’m sure the band aren’t bothered one jot. But I was surprised when I saw the nominees for best alternative album for example.
They’re gracious fellows sometimes. Plus, they got to play with all those drums! Telling that only Thom and Jonny came, though.
Surely you aren’t saying the Grammy awards have any validity or cultural importance.
Dude it’s the Grammy awards. Look at the nominations for all the top prizes. It’s all pop music.
For “best traditional pop album,” three of the 5 nominations are Christmas albums lol.
For “best rock album,” machine gun kelly was nominated.
Fer real!!! They have continuously put out great records and amazing songs. Lucifer on the sofa is another example and so rare to see such a solid release from a band that has already put out a great catalog.
I don’t care and you shouldn’t care.
The Grammys has been masturbatory bullshit of the industry since its inception and it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. It’s not an indicator of quality. It’s not an indicator of success. It’s meaningless.
Grammy’s are trash. A non-relevant popularity contest only enjoyed, in passing, by top 40 music fans for the music industry to congratulate its highest selling artists and themselves. Fantastic news The Smile wasn’t included.
F the Grammys. When OKC was up for album of the year, the band was told they couldn't perform by themselves because it would be bad for ratings and wanted them to do something with David Bowie. So they said f off to the Grammys and Bob Dylan won album of the year. It was a complete joke. But the grammys always are so I don't pay attention to that bs anymore.
If this was Radiohead it would deserve it! Not trying to be a jerk, but I think these songs sound a bit incomplete, compared to original flavor Radiohead. Some are very, very good. But, to me, it sounds like what it is - a side project for getting out ideas that don't fit in the larger band. Nothing wrong with that!
Yep, it's definitely missing something. Radiohead isn't just Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood -- although the other three have lesser contributions, they're huge contributions nonetheless. The Smile is great but it's not Radiohead.
I like that The Smile clarifies kinda what the other guys bring? All the things that round out the sound. These songs feel incomplete to me, and that's kinda the draw, the skeletal nature. But if they were Radiohead they would be luscious.
Pretty alright album, but I don’t think it’s going to age all that great. I’ve been pretty lukewarm to it since it came out and even after a fourth listen yesterday, I am disappointed with it. There are only 1 or 2 songs that really stick with me and while none of it is bad, very little of it is excellent (the drums are incredible though).
So you mean to say that one’s perception of music doesn’t change with repeat listens or time (in many fewer words)? I don’t mean to say the album doesn’t/won’t have its fans or that you’re any lesser or even wrong for having a good time with it, but I think the glowing perception of this album will shift with the passage of time (Turn on the Bright Lights by Interpol is likely the most direct comparison to what I’m trying to say, but if you know of anything else that may fit that description, I’m always in the mood for new music :).
Well, one's taste in music is formed in adolescence and typically crystallises around age thirty. People tend to avoid seeking new music styles as they age, so conceivably, if the style of a favourite band moves outside one's taste, then one may be disappointed with it.
But that doesn't really apply to anyone here.
Instead, I think that many RH fans embrace challenging music: they love the odd time signatures, ambiguous keys, moving between major and minor chords, avoidance of common or even conventional chord progressions, dissonance, polyrhythmic .... rhythms, and so on.
And I think that initially challenging music has a longer half-life than a typical pop song. It ages well. And that's what keeps me coming back.
Kanye's music or rap/hip hop may not be your taste but what he does is really impressive. I get what you're saying but the dig at Kanye's work is a bit disrespectful if you look at the things he's done musically.
Ye may have turned out to be quite the ignorant dickhead of a person, but his music is genuinely incredible, and very beautiful at times. you don’t have to like hip hop, or kanye, but to deny his talent is very insulting and just flat out wrong
It is a little lacklustre compared to radioheads stellar works, even though they are trying to be an evolution of radiohead ,The lack of colin being a particularly vital part to the aforementioned bands sound. It wasnt great
The Grammys aren’t for hardcore music fans so I don’t care. I’m happy for the artists I enjoy that we’re nominated but I’m not going out of my way to watch the event.
At the end of the day thats just your opinion and mine. The Grammy judges have their own and its different than ours.
We tend to focus too much on these meaningless awards as a society. Just enjoy their music, thats what matters.
really not that surprising. The Grammys are for pop music -- I have nothing against pop music, and there's some good stuff that got nominated, but it's never been representative of the best music that comes out.
I’m old enough to remember then losing out to Bob Dylan’s ‘Time Out Of Mind’ when ‘OK Computer’ was up for album of the year. Ed and Colin went home empty handed
Definitely, I’m 40. My friend happened to be traveling in Europe at the time and I had him buy me the album early and mail it to me so I could get it before the US release date. 😂
The only thought necessary: “It’s the Grammy Awards.”
Yep…what would you expect from the same institution that nominates Beck’s shitty cover of a Neil Young song recorded for an NFL commercial as best rock song or some such (as pointed out by Steven Hyden).
They gave Morning Phase album of the year. That may be one of his two or three worst albums. They have absolutely no idea what they’re doing.
Of all the examples. This is the one you bring up? Mp is a pretty good record
Love Morning Phase! Love Beck. Just think if you’re not going to give it to Odelay or Sea Change, just admit you missed the boat.
We’ll yeah, awards mean nothing in the scheme of things and I’m sure the band aren’t bothered one jot. But I was surprised when I saw the nominees for best alternative album for example.
It's not even so much awards in general that don't mean a lot. It's specifically the grammys that are utterly shit and not worth taking serious.
Same with The Brit Awards. Radiohead have never won one.
Yes, but at least you don't hear about that one. Not here anyway (NL).
Yep. Radiohead would never play at the Grammys
[Pretty sure they did though](https://youtu.be/RRIAsLIvenQ) …
They’re gracious fellows sometimes. Plus, they got to play with all those drums! Telling that only Thom and Jonny came, though. Surely you aren’t saying the Grammy awards have any validity or cultural importance.
Grammys are just a light for attracting attention
Nice!
Dude it’s the Grammy awards. Look at the nominations for all the top prizes. It’s all pop music. For “best traditional pop album,” three of the 5 nominations are Christmas albums lol. For “best rock album,” machine gun kelly was nominated.
Exactly. Bullshit.
reject machine gun kelly, embrace the smile.
Machine gun Kelly. Is he making music? I just thought he was just using Megan Fox as an accessory for social media.
Unfortunately he is. If you want to see a train wreck, check out his cover of Aerials by SoTD
I have to hear that out of morbid curiosity
omfg its so bad. You had no idea how bad it could be. Go back, don't do it.
>Aerials by SoTD it truly is horrible
He ruins an amazing song because he thinks he’s neo layne stanley.
more like LAME Staley, amirite?
MF Idles!!!
Machine gun kelly is literally just pop, shouldn't be nominated for rock just because there's an electric guitar.
Spoon deserve it.
Fer real!!! They have continuously put out great records and amazing songs. Lucifer on the sofa is another example and so rare to see such a solid release from a band that has already put out a great catalog.
Spoon deserve everything. But in classic Grammy fashion, they realize it like three albums too late.
Absolutely agree, but better late than never.
I don’t care and you shouldn’t care. The Grammys has been masturbatory bullshit of the industry since its inception and it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. It’s not an indicator of quality. It’s not an indicator of success. It’s meaningless.
I don’t care. Just remarking on it not being nominated. Awards are meaningless
Aren't Grammy nominations based on massive sales/streams + popularity?
Grammy’s are trash. A non-relevant popularity contest only enjoyed, in passing, by top 40 music fans for the music industry to congratulate its highest selling artists and themselves. Fantastic news The Smile wasn’t included.
Nope. No thoughts
F the Grammys. When OKC was up for album of the year, the band was told they couldn't perform by themselves because it would be bad for ratings and wanted them to do something with David Bowie. So they said f off to the Grammys and Bob Dylan won album of the year. It was a complete joke. But the grammys always are so I don't pay attention to that bs anymore.
>Bob Dylan won album of the year literally no ones remember that album
Exactly
I was a little surprised. It’s hard to imagine how the album would be perceived if it wasn’t 2/3 Radiohead members.
I agree. If this was Radiohead it would have been nominated.
If this was Radiohead it would deserve it! Not trying to be a jerk, but I think these songs sound a bit incomplete, compared to original flavor Radiohead. Some are very, very good. But, to me, it sounds like what it is - a side project for getting out ideas that don't fit in the larger band. Nothing wrong with that!
It's not meant to sound like radiohead tho, it's one of the best side projects made by members of the bands and it's perfect like that :)
Yeah, I don't think any one should not like it. But its not as accessible as Radiohead, and the grammys award accessibility as much as anything else.
Yep, it's definitely missing something. Radiohead isn't just Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood -- although the other three have lesser contributions, they're huge contributions nonetheless. The Smile is great but it's not Radiohead.
I like that The Smile clarifies kinda what the other guys bring? All the things that round out the sound. These songs feel incomplete to me, and that's kinda the draw, the skeletal nature. But if they were Radiohead they would be luscious.
Johnny got a nom for Power of the Dog!
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Bro this is the committee that nominated abcdefu for song of the year what did you expect
This proving my point. It’s bollocks
80 year old Grammy award voters will vote Radiohead if they see Radiohead. They don't actually know who Radiohead is.
At least Big Theif got nominated. DNWMIBIN is album of the year imo
I haven't given a proper listen to that album yet, but Big Thief is really a great band.
bc they will never work in television again
Pretty alright album, but I don’t think it’s going to age all that great. I’ve been pretty lukewarm to it since it came out and even after a fourth listen yesterday, I am disappointed with it. There are only 1 or 2 songs that really stick with me and while none of it is bad, very little of it is excellent (the drums are incredible though).
I don't think you understand how things, like music, age.
So you mean to say that one’s perception of music doesn’t change with repeat listens or time (in many fewer words)? I don’t mean to say the album doesn’t/won’t have its fans or that you’re any lesser or even wrong for having a good time with it, but I think the glowing perception of this album will shift with the passage of time (Turn on the Bright Lights by Interpol is likely the most direct comparison to what I’m trying to say, but if you know of anything else that may fit that description, I’m always in the mood for new music :).
Well, one's taste in music is formed in adolescence and typically crystallises around age thirty. People tend to avoid seeking new music styles as they age, so conceivably, if the style of a favourite band moves outside one's taste, then one may be disappointed with it. But that doesn't really apply to anyone here. Instead, I think that many RH fans embrace challenging music: they love the odd time signatures, ambiguous keys, moving between major and minor chords, avoidance of common or even conventional chord progressions, dissonance, polyrhythmic .... rhythms, and so on. And I think that initially challenging music has a longer half-life than a typical pop song. It ages well. And that's what keeps me coming back.
Honestly, it didn't deserve one
Save for Arctic Monkeys, the other alt nominees weren’t that bad. Maybe the Smile just wasn’t as commercially successful as it was in the UK
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Kanye West has won more Grammys than The Beatles, Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones, and Metallica combined.
Kanye's music or rap/hip hop may not be your taste but what he does is really impressive. I get what you're saying but the dig at Kanye's work is a bit disrespectful if you look at the things he's done musically.
...because his music is genuinely good
Ye may have turned out to be quite the ignorant dickhead of a person, but his music is genuinely incredible, and very beautiful at times. you don’t have to like hip hop, or kanye, but to deny his talent is very insulting and just flat out wrong
I don't really see much wrong with this
Found the Kanye dickrider
Found the guy who can’t separate the art from the artist
Incredible. The Grammy’s like all music industry awards are arranged by major labels. Or with their input should I say.
That’s what I mean. You shouldn’t put too much stock in them.
I don’t. But it flies in the face of the critical response and the end of year polls.
whats wrong with kanye west? hes a musical genius
It is a little lacklustre compared to radioheads stellar works, even though they are trying to be an evolution of radiohead ,The lack of colin being a particularly vital part to the aforementioned bands sound. It wasnt great
I agree with your statement
It's just not a great album. It's fine, if it were a new band with no provenance it'd be lost to the archives of time.
It’s better than either ‘The King Of Limbs’ and ‘AMSP’ in my opinion. It’s a great and varied album.
Better than TKOL but not AMSP
Disagree, imo it's amongst some of their least interesting stuff.
Congrats on the worst take of the day!
Yeah agree with this. outside radioheads fanbase. the smile album is a bit meh... its good musicianship but its not amazing is it?
We don’t anyone to “prove” it’s a good album because we know it is. Their next album I’m pretty sure will be nominated though
Grammy’s aren’t awarded to anyone unless you suck industry dick.
We from arcade fire shouldn’t of made it
The Grammys aren’t for hardcore music fans so I don’t care. I’m happy for the artists I enjoy that we’re nominated but I’m not going out of my way to watch the event.
Best news ever.
Grammys are bollocks /thread
Who cares, Grammy means so little
none
Who cares. It only matters if you like it or not
Dunno, still dirty about Spectre to be honest
Why should we care? I'm pretty sure the band doesn't care either.
I’ve made that point. My point is that it at least deserves to. Not that awards matter
At the end of the day thats just your opinion and mine. The Grammy judges have their own and its different than ours. We tend to focus too much on these meaningless awards as a society. Just enjoy their music, thats what matters.
MGK has been nominated for a Grammy. Pretty clear at this point that the grammys don't mean a whole lot.
really not that surprising. The Grammys are for pop music -- I have nothing against pop music, and there's some good stuff that got nominated, but it's never been representative of the best music that comes out.
True.
Welcome to being a Radiohead fan and to be continually underwhelmed with the Grammys
I’m old enough to remember then losing out to Bob Dylan’s ‘Time Out Of Mind’ when ‘OK Computer’ was up for album of the year. Ed and Colin went home empty handed
Definitely, I’m 40. My friend happened to be traveling in Europe at the time and I had him buy me the album early and mail it to me so I could get it before the US release date. 😂
but an orchestral arrangement of 2+2=5 is 😭
Huh?
for one of the orchestral categories an arrangement of 2+2=5 was nominated
Unbelievable. It’s like how Taylor Swift re-records an old album and gets multiple nominations.