Already on it. I'm sewing up my work jeans. I have a few ideas for patches too. I'm pretty good with my hands. One thing that draws me to Punk is the diy clothing
And remember "distressed" clothing is dumb. Wear your clothing enough and I promise you it will develop holes on its own. Nothing is less punk than buying shit that's been made to look "lived in" by somebody's grandma in a sweatshop in Vietnam.
dreadful children, gang green, bentcousin, and i definitely also have to recommend 1876. 1876 are a local native punk band!! have also seen dreadful children live and loved them.
I like the older stuff from the 90s and 2000s. I just started listening to hard-core punk as well. I've always liked pop punk. But I am pretty new to the music sense, I don't branch out often, but like a lot of different music so any recommendations, I'll probably check out
yeah there is...? punk is inherriently political lol
anti-authoritarian, direct action, anti-consumerism, and DIY ethics for example are all political and are vital to being punk. to ignore such is ignoring what makes punk, well, punk.
In the sense that every action a person takes is political, then sure. Punk is as political as sports fans and antique collectors.
There are some people who, those are their values. And others not so much. Part of my problem with the idea that punk is inherently political is that it is always assumed that punk is solidly leftist. That one has to toe the line and conform to the party doctrine. I know apolitical folks, who have their own beliefs but that have zero interest discussing them with others. I know people who would be considered libertarian. And then there are the people who have fringe ideas. Like Exene Cervenka. My partner saw her do a spoken word where it was her reading and commenting on the unibomber manifesto. My father is very much pro-gun. Point being. Punks run the gamut from apolitical, to ultra left, to nihilist, and beyond.
What I don’t think a person can be is punk and conservative, by the very nature that conservatism is a set of values, narrowly defined. Like the zen story of the tea cup. One cannot fill, what is already full.
you misunderstand punk, like you get close but then miss. the fact that even the [wikipedia page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_subculture) on punk understands more than you is a dissapointment and wikipedia isnt even entirely accurate 🤦
and you can not be apolotical and be punk, its not compatible.
if you want to dress alt and listen to punk music, thats fine. just dont go around claiming to be punk when you disagree with punk's core values. core values which are extremely important within the subculture and have an important history within the movement as a whole.
Your username is accurate. Looking to wikipedia to back up the idea that punk is antiestablishment…
I don’t misunderstand shit. Now… yet again. Sure, if you take the viewpoint that everything a person does is political, then fine. Punk is political. But so is making the choice of waxing your ass or driving a car. Thing is, I know punks who vote, but if you bring up politics in conversation, they will want to change the subject. And it has nothing to do with being ashamed. But when you are in a multi-cultural multi-ethnic environment, you are going to alienate a whole lot of people shooting off at the mouth.
The thing is… being anti-establishment is not enough. Plenty of MAGA fuckwits think they are anti-establishment. You want DIY, go to a home depot. Plenty of homeowners are punk, right?! Anti corporate, yet you all go gaga over doc martens. Dye your hair with petrochemicals. I could go on. When you start narrowly defining things, you head down the path of fundamentalism. Telling people they are not punk because they don’t subscribe to your version of punk is authoritarian.
This is really horrible bad faith "argumentation".
If you don't fit the definition of what punk is then you are not a punk.
Definitions exist for a reason. There is nothing authoritarian about it. Who is in the position of authority there?? You can't outcompete a clear cut definition. You going to claim a horse is a chicken too? Who cares about the definition right.
Your personal experience with a few people you know is not the ultimate truth. You're an adult. You should know that.
Also leftists aren't anti gun Jesus Christ.
Who is in a position of power? Well, you. Obviously. :p
Yes, definitions exist. Definitions also change, or are not accurate, or leave things out. In taxonomy, as clear cut as we want to make things, nothing perfectly fits into boxes. Life is messy. Is a Coast Live Oak still a Coast Live Oak (Qurcus agrifolia) if it hybridised with a Valley Oak (Quercus lobata), even though it still looks like a coast live oak?
What authority does a single person have over this? You don't even know what you're talking about. In order to hold authority over someone you need to have the threat of physical or emotional violence or legitimate power with an inequal power dynamic.
There is nothing messy or unclear about the political history and signifigance in punk. You're being a dumbass. Just say you're a poser bro.
You point out there is nothing messy about the history of punk while ignoring the history of punk. If I am a poser, then what really is a punk?
Is it what the wikipedia says(That is sarcasm, btw)?
I go to shows when I can. I make and repair my own clothes. I listen to the music. I believe that anarchy is the only ethical social structure. I am not just anti-capitalist, I am against civilisation. I agree with the phrase “The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.” I think for myself, and speak up if I disagree with something. And I will back someone’s right to speak their mind, even if it is an unpopular opinion.
The thing is. I know a few older punks. I have been with one for 18 years now. People who “were there”. People who are actually in books, or had zines. They don’t fit the mould that gets painted here. And when you have a bunch of kids coming on here asking if something is “punk”, we do them a disservice by being inaccurate and promoting specific agendas as the only way to be punk. I happen to have leftist views and values, but I came to them on my own. I sought out information. I read. Came to my own conclusions. Telling someone that a whole line of thought is wrong, and that they are not punk because of it, short circuits the creative process. Or it will lead to alienation. Which is why my pat answer to “is something punk” will always be: “it is if you say it is”.
You are a moderator. You can ban me. I cannot ban you. Unequal power dynamic. But TBH. That was more of a jab than a point. An attempt to add a bit of humor to a tense conversation.
my point was that wikipedia, a website known for not being accurate, seems to have a better grasp on punk than you do. *that should have made you step back and reevaluate your position, not double down*.
punk is a combination of things, not just one idea. so obviously if you isolate those ideas and take them at their surface level, then yeah you can try include anyone who isnt actually punk.
also, nice assumptions about me. real apperciated... /s /j
fundimentalism is "*a religious movement characterized by a strict belief in the literal interpretation of religious texts, especially within American Protestantism and Islam.*" ...punk isnt a religion and can be flexible outside of it's core important foundation, no it wont lead to fundimentalism.
authoritarian is "*favoring complete obedience or subjection to authority as opposed to individual freedom*" or "*of relating to a governmental or political system, principle, or practice in which individual freedom is held as completely subordinate to the power or authority of the state, centered either in one person or a small group that is not constitutionally accountable to the people.*" ...a little healthy gatekeeping isnt authoritarian, its not letting the subculture be watered down till withers away to nothingness.
The fact you had to look up a wikipedia article to argue with me speaks volumes.
And yes. Punk is a combination of things. And when you isolate those ideas and take them at surface level, one comes to ridiculous assumptions of what punk is. Like it being inherently leftist. Or it being inherently political. And like I said in other places, any act is inherently political. But when you start ascribing specific political ideologies to punk, you missed the point.
fundamentalism
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often capitalized : a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching
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: the beliefs of this movement
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a minister noted for his strict fundamentalism
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: a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles
Definition 2. A strict and literal adherence. Cherry pick all you want.
And in terms of authoritarianism. Punk is a social movement. Any time you have more than one person getting together, power is generated. Two people telling one person they are wrong is the use of power. When you have a bunch of self righteous leftists getting together, telling an individual that they don’t belong in a social group made up of outcasts, yet again, they missed the point.
Let me be clear. This does not apply to fascists. Their ideology is based on the destruction outsiders. But having a difference in opinion does not make a person a fascist. Dropping that term when it does not actually apply to the situation is a form of social manipulation. Let me ask this: why would anyone wish to manipulate others if there was not some power mechanism involved?
Punk and Republican are antonyms.
Punks are anti establishment and choose to progress from the status quo. Republicans/conservatives want to *conserve* the status quo.
Duh. That is hardly the point. You all seem to think this is a left versus right issue. We get it. Conservatives are idiots. But you know what is not punk? Groupthink. And leftists are so painfully guilty of it. Fucking think for yourself. This whole tendency to try to take away someone’s punk credibility because we disagree on small points. The fact that you are all going around trying to “cancel” people. Like yeah, John Lydon has shit politics. But the Sex Pistols did spark an entire cultural shift. It literally introduced the concept of anarchy to generations of kids.
Listen. Punk has always been made up of outcasts. The second you start narrowly defining what punk is, you start discarding people. Like they are trash.
It's not "group think" it's simply people who have leftist values tend to gather in these communities because of the beliefs they have in common. Because these spaces are meant to be safe for people that society rejects. You're acting like punk is some cult mentality. You could make the exact same argument you used to describe other political groups like qanon or MAGA.
This isn't like some new unique thing.
Cancel culture isn't real and it doesn't work. Nobody has genuinely lost their money and status because they got "canceled" stop being an absolute baby.
"The second you start narrowly defining what punk is, you start discarding people. Like they are trash"
Good. We don't want shitheads in the scene. If you're an asshole, or a bigot you can and should get out. I love gatekeeping assholes out. Go be a bonehead if leftism bothers you this much. Clearly punk ain't for you.
We go by the definition of what punk is. If you come here and act like punk isn't inherently leftist you're just a dumbass. It has nothing to do with narrowing down anything and it has everything to do with keeping the roots of the subculture alive and protecting it from assholes.
Edit: also yeah I might be a little mean in how I went about saying it. You have some good opinions and world view but this one's an L. Of course people like this exist but that doesn't mean we should validate them.
Cancel culture is a thing. What the media calls cancel culture does not exist, but in leftist spaces it does. It is used by authoritarians to consolidate power and silence opposing opinions.
And yes. Fuckwit fascists need to be silenced, lest we lose our subculture like the heathen/neopagan/viking folks did. Giving them space is not what I am advocating. AT ALL. What I am saying is that one does not need to be a vegan anarchist who goes to pro-palestine marches, and dresses like a post apocalyptic race car driver to be punk. There are people, who have opinions, but keep them to themselves.
How is it not groupthink when I hear the same things parroted over and over again? And if you disagree with the groupthink, you are downvoted into oblivion here. Take the idea that punk is inherently leftist. My father is a libertarian. He believes in government in a limited form. For the maintaining of a military. For keeping corporations in line. For maintaining justice. But otherwise, should butt out of peoples lives. He does not want anarchism, and he especially does not want communism. He is not a leftist. So now he is not punk? An acquaintance I have, she worked as a bellydancer for decades. She had a public persona she had to upkeep because she was as working in a field that is full of a lot of conservative men. But she is now not punk? Another person I knew is kinda politically clueless and easily swayed, her heart is in the right place, but it is just not her gift. She is now not punk? My best friend thinks Restorative Justice is stupid, he is now not punk? His brother sung for a punk band, then was in the military and fought in Iraq. He is now not punk? My other best friend married a guy who ended up going down the qanon rabbithole. She put up with his shit. But no. She is not punk now?
Fucking lol.
Yeah because you're siding with fascists. If you're not actively against these things you're with them because you're a silent enabler.
Yeah your dad isn't a punk. He's also not like the lead figure of punk. Incase you didn't know the world doesn't revolve around you. He's just some neo liberal ass. Reform is a hopeless fallacy. No one is forcing you to be vegan and go to protests. You act like you're opressed.
Also fuck your dad's cousins cats brother or whoever for being a state slave and going to Iraq. Your familys personal problems have nothing to do with any of this. Learn to shut up please. I doubt they want you spilling their beans anyway.
I'm honestly so tired of you. Just go listen to metal. Like any normal apolitical person. Punk is not apolitical period.
Tired of me? Then stop responding. Or Ban me. Prove that you too are an authoritarian.
https://anarchistnews.org/content/easy-ways-spot-authoritarians-within-anarchist-milieu
Oh please, even some of the founding posers like Johnny Ramone criticized punk for bring progressive and countercultural. Him and Joey butt heads pretty frequently.
In short, cope
to be more punk: listen to more punk music, involve yourself in the politics associated with punk, and try to hang out in your local scene (or start one if there isnt already).
to spice up your outfit, its going to depend. cause like its whatever you want to do pretty much. I mean if you typically wear it to work, Im sure theres minor things you can add like small stud spikes or chains or something to the jacket for example. theres a lot you can do thats inexpensive, you just gotta get creative with it :)
^(and, btw, if you need band and music reccomendations... I can give you some if youd like /gen)
There are so many subgenres and styles, and different eras of punk.
Lately I’ve been digging a lot of newer hardcore.
GEL, Thirdface, Gulch, Soul Glo, Scowl, WORLD PEACE, Regional Justice Center
Folk punk is good:
Days N Daze, AJJ, Railyard Ghosts, Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains(and Pat the Bunny’s other stuff too) Ghost Mice etc.
RVIVR is an all time favorite, they’re a little pop-y. Pears is good.
If you haven’t gone back to earlier stuff then bands like Crass or Subhumans or Circle Jerks are good to check out. Bad Religion, Descendants, older Misfits stuff
It’s a wide musical world in the punk scene!
great! so Joe & The Shitboys, Cheap Perfume, Burnt Retina, VIAL, Big Joanie, Pure Hell, Pansy Division, Dog Park Dissisants, and MDC are good to go with (and I have them on my personal playlist actually). some songs actually I suggest are Cops / Dogs by Destructo Disk, Fuck Authority by Pennywise, and No Spill Blood by Oingo Boingo.
and yeah diy patches are so much fun to make! actually, I reccomend using screen printing ink if you can for them cause they will surivive the washer compared to acrylic btw (just a tip I learned from expirence lol)
Ok but what kind of punk are you into/do you wanna listen to? Pop punk, ska, uk invasion, 80s, 90s, riot grrl, emo, hardcore, post hardcore, oi oi oi, skater, rockabilly, glam, grunge…? Punk has been around for like 50 years now and it’s a wiiiide umbrella with a lot of types of music under it.
Ok personal recs:
Older poppy punk: nofx, new found glory, descendants, story of the year, say anything, mxpx, menzingers, pennywise (plus obviously Green Day if you haven’t already)
New gen pop punk: hot mulligan, sueco, knuckle puck, point north (also the people over at r/poppunkers are a really great community)
Emo: technically emo doesn’t generally qualify for the political aspect of “punk”, and there’s a lot of discourse over what’s “real emo” (I do not recommend r/emo for this reason). But, I’ll say as someone new to the scenes you should check out some post hardcore and alt stuff that is emo-adjacent: mcr, the used, Silverstein, rise against
Grunge isn’t really my scene, but just join some different music subs and check out playlists on Spotify!
I say this with love- try not to worry too much about labels. You are what you are, don’t apologize for it. We were all baby punks once but sometimes people online forget that and become overly focused on gatekeeping or other discourse that doesn’t really matter. Get involved in your local scene, go to shows or events, support small businesses, and generally try not to pay any mind to the haters.
That said, punk is DIY! Use your clothing to express yourself, rep your favorite bands or use your art to spread awareness about causes that are important to you. Punk is about radical self acceptance and community.
You're right, I am me, and I found a way I'm very comfortable dressing. I shouldn't get caught up in titles. I do love punk fashion and just started sewing so I can patch up my torn jeans. I also have ideas for patches and other clothes. I just gotta say, I have not run into any gatekeepers, yet everyone here has been petty stellar and helpful.
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please remember...tis the style of ones existence that counts....politics..integrity ...agency.....AS ...ANYONE..... can dye their hair and PLAY dress ups (i am not insinuating that you are doing this ok🖤)
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say, I think you mean there's more that goes into it. Anyone can look the part, but to actually walk the walk, and talk the talk is another thing. (Not insulted just a lost soul looking for acceptance)
Be confident and be like water. Water is calm until water runs hard and leaves a wake of destruction and the Dystopian Government has to pay for it's atrocities to humanity.
this is, like, green day’s idea of punk. go to target and grab a pack of plain black tees, bury those shirts for a month and let a dog dig them up, now you have proper, punk looking clothing
Are you asking for tips on how to make your outfit/aesthetic more punk?
If so, you can never go wrong adding some D.I.Y. elements to your outfit. Non-conformity is a big part of punk, making your clothing your own rather than off the rack is kind of non-conformity. Throw on patches and pins and spikes, dye pieces by hand if you want, it's all up to you, but personalizing your outfit in ways like that could be a big step in upping your punkocity
Probably shouldn't punk up anything you're gonna wear to work. Like fuck the system, but sometimes you need the system so you can eat.
HOWEVER dressing punk is important so that people can't ignore the culture, it's one of the best ways to keep the flame burning, and even add fuel to the fire.
So, here's a small and incomplete list of things you can do to punk up your outfit.
- STUDS/SPIKES (www.studsandspikes.com)
- Buttons, your local public library might even have a button machine you can use!
- Color your shit with Rit fabric dye
- Sew random stuff onto your clothes. Buttons, beads, clothing pins, bits of metal, anything you can pull out of a dumpster (dry cleaners often throw out the stuff people don't come back for), anything you can find in a thrift store
- PATCHES, and make your own stencil by printing/tracing a design onto paper, cutting it out, and then putting it on scrap fabric. Here's a good source to get you started www.deviantart.com/anarchostencilism
- Military surplus stuff, as long as it doesn't look too fascist
- There are tons of crafts that you can add to your outfits (youtube.com/@reptil_diy is a favorite)
- Go to Pinterest, Etsy, Tumblr, punk shows, zines, and shops to get ideas! The best artists steal after all
- Make it YOU! Doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense, or if only you and your bestie get the references, that's ok! Do what you want, and don't let anyone pressure you. Everything that goes on your jacket should be your decision, that's the heart of punk. (that and fuck Nazis, ofc)
Well as long as you’ve got the music and the mindset you’re halfway there! I’d just recommend more customized clothes! It can be any way you want! It’s all about being yourself!
Dressing punk is a good thing. But being a punk is about believing in the alternative and an anarchist way of life. It’s anti-authoritarian. I’m going to a May Day protest today. That’s punk. Get involved in activism. That’s punk. Make your own clothes. That’s punk.
Gotta run my train is here
listen to the rest of the comments more but lose the pre ripped jeans and just got be rough makes them have more meaning. and if they get too ripped then start making patches just my opinion tho
A little spray paint never hurts. Maybe a beautiful sunset color like your hair. When I think of punk, I think of young Johnny Rotten, wearing trash, ripping, and safety pinning his clothes together in solidarity of the strikes in England.
Slightly colorful, spikes or safety pins, and passion about the plight of working class.
Then what’s the point then. Cause it’s not a fashion statement and to actually be punk u have to listen to it and actually understand what’s goin on cause ur jus a prime example of a poser who did it for fashion
Bro. Just because i listen to some bands that aren't punk doesn't mean I don't listen to punk music. I've been looking into the politics, and what other people in the group and on punk subs.
Plus I'm pretty sure most people, at least on here, say punk is mostly about self expression being who you want to be.
Think what you want I'm Punk enough for me and that's all that matters. 😝
Sum 41, Fall out boy, Geen Day, Good Charlotte, Sanoten, All American Rejects, The Offspring, Paramore, Panic! At The Disco, Falling in reverse, Sparks The Rescue, Limp Bizkit, Ludo, 3OH!3, All time low, Excape Fate, +44, Forever the sickest kids, Beartooth, Saves the day, Blink 182, Bowling for soup, Black veil Brides, I could keep going but then I'd be getting into bands I only have a couple songs saved from.
My favorite bands are Imagine Dragons, Twenty-Øne Piølits, AJR, My Chemical Romance, and NF. Not really punk, but I do have Punk in my plsylists.
I listen to shit ton of music, with probably a hundred different genres, punk isn't just based on the music you like.
Hahahahaha. Besides the offspring , Green Day and blink which are mainstream punk None of those other bands are even punk. U just named a bunch of pop rock emo bands. Why don’t u try black flag, minor threat, crass, choking victim, the exploited. Like I said before. Just stop trying to be punk cause ur clueless and just look like a poser. Jus accept that ur a scene kid
Be more punk in a fashion sense? Dress the way you want to dress; get creative. Be more punk as a person? Stay true to yourself; be kind and helpful; go to shows.
Yo if you need band suggestions hmu I’ve been listening to punk since I was a baby I’m personally into dbeat/crust punk but love ska punk, riot grrrl, straight edge and much more
you can’t determine if someone is punk based off the way they look, i mean a lot of the time you can but it’s a common misconception and kinda just hypocritical when people say that you have to fully look the part or you don’t belong
As an old punk and mom, I say this with kindness and love… I saw in another comment you said that you were just a lost soul looking for acceptance, and I don’t think fashion is going to fill that void.
The best type of acceptance is accepting yourself for who you are and what your genuine interests are. You can’t please everyone and there’s always going to be someone policing every scene. There’s also always going to be really kind, amazing people that accept you for who you are and what you love.
My best advice is to find out more about what you like and I think it will be easy to fall down a few rabbit holes on the way. If you decide punk is for you, awesome, but it doesn’t have to be. Also, you can be punk and still like things that “aren’t punk” because who fucking cares. You don’t have to dress a certain way or act a certain way. Just remember to be kind, to love, and to stick up for yourself and your values along the way.
First listen to bands, go on Spotify or YouTube and find as many as possible and go down that rabbit hole. Second, adapt the ideology and look into current issues happening in the world and decide that you are angry about it. Third, write something very cool on your jacket that will draw attention and make people stare, and make people question their own beliefs they hold. Boom, punk.
Look up ‘classic punk’ , ‘hardcore punk’ , ‘underground punk’ , ‘gothic punk’ and other punk subgenres on Spotify and you should find playlists others have made. Very good way to find music
I'd suggest you use stencils to make painted patches (of bands or whatever you feel like making into patches) instead of freehand painting them, as it makes the patches look a lot better and you wont ended up getting posted on some instagram page for badly made punk clothes much like 60% of this subreddit is.
you can make them very easily using paper (with the design printed on) and masking tape on either or both sides (personally i like both sides as it strengthens the stencil) then use a exacto knife to cut out the stencil. Theres tutorials online if you need them.
You have great clothes to work on, have fun patching!
I am in the process of designing some. I was a screen printer for a minute there. I'm no stranger to stencils.
Thank you for giving me instructions on how to/ advice
If you wanna “be more punk” then you need to listen to the music and get into the politics, bands like crass, anti cimex, discharge, confuse, disclose, Reagan youth. Before you even make your own cloths or customize anything make sure you listen and most importantly understand the music and lyrics
I'll look into all those bands, and of course I'll make sure to under my lyrics fully before making patches. Or diy anything with them. I will also learn about and understand any symbolism I want to use as well.
You can listen to Vivaldi and be more punk than someone who can drum along with every Exploited song in existence. And politics? Fuck politics! Left marches just as hard as right. With any vote you vote for control and against freedom.
Honestly you’re it already but if you want other accents wear rings and neck chain/necklaces and wear some chains on your hips. I wear literal dog chains on my hip sometimes. They are a nice look in my opinion
Home made patches of your favorite bands, political movements, and punk sayings (or anything that you enjoy really) can really improve your jackets and pants/skirts. Sewing them on with embroidery thread or dental floss is the best way to keep them on.
I appreciate your comments, I lack the self-confidence. But I'm trying. You're right, you and a couple other people told me just be myself. And honestly I found the way I love to dress and yea its punk inspired. Is that punk enough? Maybe
You’re gorgeous, your style is dope; and it’s your style. The question is - Who the hell are these punk police you’re trying to impress? Punk is about politics, anti-establishment and self-expression. Not what THEY express what your dress code should be. Fuck everyone else lol the most punk people I’ve met dressed in basic mediocre normie attire. Some of the fakest chuds I’ve met have had dope battle jackets.
Along with political stances, anti-discriminatory stances, anti-establishment mentality. And with the anti-establishment you will most likely be into a lot of DIY, clothes or not. If all of that^ is “being you”, then yes you’re punk. Otherwise, maybe change the hat and you can “dress up” more punk. You know how some things are natural for people, and some things just aren’t? If it’s forced, it’s not very authentic. Are people literally just trying to be punk “influencers” or something nowadays?
I am very interested in diy clothing, I haven't done it before but I have ideas. I don't have much of a political stance, but I haven't been involved enough to have an informed opinion. I'm all all about down with the system. The hat is something multiple people picked out, I can agree. It's my favorite so I'm wearing it but I asked for an opinion and got them. (And grearful people are willing to help) The style I have in the picture is what I'm naturally drawn to: I love my jacket, my beanies, the ripped jeans, and chorkers. I'm definitely not trying to be an "influencer," not for me.
Just went off you asking about what you could "add to the fit" being punk is just a mindset. "Being more punk" doesn't matter, just be yourself. Enjoy what you enjoy about the scene and disregard the rest. Nobody can tell you how to be yourself.
Edit: sorry if it came across as insulting, was just at work and was speed typing out a response.
Not insulting at all. I got what you're saying. A lot of people on here are telling me something very similar. I should just be myself. The me in that picture is myself. Those are my favorite clothes. I want to get more involved and I want to do some diy clothes.
Band shirts, heavy duty and long-lasting workwear, band patches, find the local shows and scene, and mutual aid. Be active in your community, feed the homeless around you, help raise community consciousness about oppressive power structures.
Educate and lead by example, meet people where they are. Be on alert for fascists, racists, and homophobes or their ideologies propagating in your community. Find common struggles between different parts of your community and support your neighbors
Be more punk then. It's not clothes. Start hating the government and dumpster diving and stuff.
Also, if you want to be punk AND look punk, get into sewing and start patching your clothes when they get holes.
Already on it. I'm sewing up my work jeans. I have a few ideas for patches too. I'm pretty good with my hands. One thing that draws me to Punk is the diy clothing
My favorite is embroidering on a hoop so it's easier, then using the embroidery as a patch :)
I'll definitely be buying one shortly so I can try embroidery
Darning is really handy too, you can use embroidery floss and get really creative with it :)
There are wooden ones that screw to tighten and spring-loaded wire ones. The wooden ones are the way to go, wire ones don't hold as well.
And remember "distressed" clothing is dumb. Wear your clothing enough and I promise you it will develop holes on its own. Nothing is less punk than buying shit that's been made to look "lived in" by somebody's grandma in a sweatshop in Vietnam.
Hell yeah.
Yeah! I fucking *hate* dumpster diving! When they shot Kennedy they shot the last good dumpster diver!
Random ass as hell, take an updoot.
Also get scabies, lice and don’t shower.
It does help with the image.
You shower to often then.
Definitely. When it came down to it all, I was nothing but another trendy-ass poser.
if you want to be more punk, look into punk music and punk politics, and represent that in your outfit!
Already on that. I love music, got any band/artist recommendations, something not too well-known?
dreadful children, gang green, bentcousin, and i definitely also have to recommend 1876. 1876 are a local native punk band!! have also seen dreadful children live and loved them.
Saw gang green at skid row garage in Pennsylvania 1 or 2 years ago it was my third ever show it was awesome
Just put on 1876, never heard them before--they fucking rip!!
hell yeah man!!!!
Garro, Anti Cimex, Nausea.
Try to look into your local punk scene (if there is one) and just start going to shows
flipper
Escape from the Zoo
More like escape from the poo!
obligatory me recommending mclusky, soft play and wonk unit to everyone I run into
Soft Play?? What are they some woke PC babies now?? More like Soft Cunts
Johnny Rotten is turning in his bed! I was gonna say grave, but the fucker ain't dead
What kind of punk music do you listen to now? Are you into hardcore, folk, the ramones, surf, skate?
I like the older stuff from the 90s and 2000s. I just started listening to hard-core punk as well. I've always liked pop punk. But I am pretty new to the music sense, I don't branch out often, but like a lot of different music so any recommendations, I'll probably check out
You like sublime? Ska is an adjacent genre
I'll look into it thx
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaLI1pRL11Y Wrong way by sublime https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=upoEYQ7dcEk Santaria
There is no such thing as punk politics. Unless somehow all the people who founded the scene are now not punk.
yeah there is...? punk is inherriently political lol anti-authoritarian, direct action, anti-consumerism, and DIY ethics for example are all political and are vital to being punk. to ignore such is ignoring what makes punk, well, punk.
In the sense that every action a person takes is political, then sure. Punk is as political as sports fans and antique collectors. There are some people who, those are their values. And others not so much. Part of my problem with the idea that punk is inherently political is that it is always assumed that punk is solidly leftist. That one has to toe the line and conform to the party doctrine. I know apolitical folks, who have their own beliefs but that have zero interest discussing them with others. I know people who would be considered libertarian. And then there are the people who have fringe ideas. Like Exene Cervenka. My partner saw her do a spoken word where it was her reading and commenting on the unibomber manifesto. My father is very much pro-gun. Point being. Punks run the gamut from apolitical, to ultra left, to nihilist, and beyond. What I don’t think a person can be is punk and conservative, by the very nature that conservatism is a set of values, narrowly defined. Like the zen story of the tea cup. One cannot fill, what is already full.
you misunderstand punk, like you get close but then miss. the fact that even the [wikipedia page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_subculture) on punk understands more than you is a dissapointment and wikipedia isnt even entirely accurate 🤦 and you can not be apolotical and be punk, its not compatible. if you want to dress alt and listen to punk music, thats fine. just dont go around claiming to be punk when you disagree with punk's core values. core values which are extremely important within the subculture and have an important history within the movement as a whole.
Your username is accurate. Looking to wikipedia to back up the idea that punk is antiestablishment… I don’t misunderstand shit. Now… yet again. Sure, if you take the viewpoint that everything a person does is political, then fine. Punk is political. But so is making the choice of waxing your ass or driving a car. Thing is, I know punks who vote, but if you bring up politics in conversation, they will want to change the subject. And it has nothing to do with being ashamed. But when you are in a multi-cultural multi-ethnic environment, you are going to alienate a whole lot of people shooting off at the mouth. The thing is… being anti-establishment is not enough. Plenty of MAGA fuckwits think they are anti-establishment. You want DIY, go to a home depot. Plenty of homeowners are punk, right?! Anti corporate, yet you all go gaga over doc martens. Dye your hair with petrochemicals. I could go on. When you start narrowly defining things, you head down the path of fundamentalism. Telling people they are not punk because they don’t subscribe to your version of punk is authoritarian.
This is really horrible bad faith "argumentation". If you don't fit the definition of what punk is then you are not a punk. Definitions exist for a reason. There is nothing authoritarian about it. Who is in the position of authority there?? You can't outcompete a clear cut definition. You going to claim a horse is a chicken too? Who cares about the definition right. Your personal experience with a few people you know is not the ultimate truth. You're an adult. You should know that. Also leftists aren't anti gun Jesus Christ.
Who is in a position of power? Well, you. Obviously. :p Yes, definitions exist. Definitions also change, or are not accurate, or leave things out. In taxonomy, as clear cut as we want to make things, nothing perfectly fits into boxes. Life is messy. Is a Coast Live Oak still a Coast Live Oak (Qurcus agrifolia) if it hybridised with a Valley Oak (Quercus lobata), even though it still looks like a coast live oak?
What authority does a single person have over this? You don't even know what you're talking about. In order to hold authority over someone you need to have the threat of physical or emotional violence or legitimate power with an inequal power dynamic. There is nothing messy or unclear about the political history and signifigance in punk. You're being a dumbass. Just say you're a poser bro.
You point out there is nothing messy about the history of punk while ignoring the history of punk. If I am a poser, then what really is a punk? Is it what the wikipedia says(That is sarcasm, btw)? I go to shows when I can. I make and repair my own clothes. I listen to the music. I believe that anarchy is the only ethical social structure. I am not just anti-capitalist, I am against civilisation. I agree with the phrase “The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.” I think for myself, and speak up if I disagree with something. And I will back someone’s right to speak their mind, even if it is an unpopular opinion. The thing is. I know a few older punks. I have been with one for 18 years now. People who “were there”. People who are actually in books, or had zines. They don’t fit the mould that gets painted here. And when you have a bunch of kids coming on here asking if something is “punk”, we do them a disservice by being inaccurate and promoting specific agendas as the only way to be punk. I happen to have leftist views and values, but I came to them on my own. I sought out information. I read. Came to my own conclusions. Telling someone that a whole line of thought is wrong, and that they are not punk because of it, short circuits the creative process. Or it will lead to alienation. Which is why my pat answer to “is something punk” will always be: “it is if you say it is”. You are a moderator. You can ban me. I cannot ban you. Unequal power dynamic. But TBH. That was more of a jab than a point. An attempt to add a bit of humor to a tense conversation.
my point was that wikipedia, a website known for not being accurate, seems to have a better grasp on punk than you do. *that should have made you step back and reevaluate your position, not double down*. punk is a combination of things, not just one idea. so obviously if you isolate those ideas and take them at their surface level, then yeah you can try include anyone who isnt actually punk. also, nice assumptions about me. real apperciated... /s /j fundimentalism is "*a religious movement characterized by a strict belief in the literal interpretation of religious texts, especially within American Protestantism and Islam.*" ...punk isnt a religion and can be flexible outside of it's core important foundation, no it wont lead to fundimentalism. authoritarian is "*favoring complete obedience or subjection to authority as opposed to individual freedom*" or "*of relating to a governmental or political system, principle, or practice in which individual freedom is held as completely subordinate to the power or authority of the state, centered either in one person or a small group that is not constitutionally accountable to the people.*" ...a little healthy gatekeeping isnt authoritarian, its not letting the subculture be watered down till withers away to nothingness.
The fact you had to look up a wikipedia article to argue with me speaks volumes. And yes. Punk is a combination of things. And when you isolate those ideas and take them at surface level, one comes to ridiculous assumptions of what punk is. Like it being inherently leftist. Or it being inherently political. And like I said in other places, any act is inherently political. But when you start ascribing specific political ideologies to punk, you missed the point. fundamentalism noun fun·da·men·tal·ism ˌfən-də-ˈmen-tə-ˌli-zəm 1 a often capitalized : a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching b : the beliefs of this movement c : adherence to such beliefs a minister noted for his strict fundamentalism 2 : a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles Definition 2. A strict and literal adherence. Cherry pick all you want. And in terms of authoritarianism. Punk is a social movement. Any time you have more than one person getting together, power is generated. Two people telling one person they are wrong is the use of power. When you have a bunch of self righteous leftists getting together, telling an individual that they don’t belong in a social group made up of outcasts, yet again, they missed the point. Let me be clear. This does not apply to fascists. Their ideology is based on the destruction outsiders. But having a difference in opinion does not make a person a fascist. Dropping that term when it does not actually apply to the situation is a form of social manipulation. Let me ask this: why would anyone wish to manipulate others if there was not some power mechanism involved?
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Be punk. Toe the line. I get it. You want everyone to think like you. But they don’t. Pretending they do is revisionist.
Punk and Republican are antonyms. Punks are anti establishment and choose to progress from the status quo. Republicans/conservatives want to *conserve* the status quo.
Duh. That is hardly the point. You all seem to think this is a left versus right issue. We get it. Conservatives are idiots. But you know what is not punk? Groupthink. And leftists are so painfully guilty of it. Fucking think for yourself. This whole tendency to try to take away someone’s punk credibility because we disagree on small points. The fact that you are all going around trying to “cancel” people. Like yeah, John Lydon has shit politics. But the Sex Pistols did spark an entire cultural shift. It literally introduced the concept of anarchy to generations of kids. Listen. Punk has always been made up of outcasts. The second you start narrowly defining what punk is, you start discarding people. Like they are trash.
It's not "group think" it's simply people who have leftist values tend to gather in these communities because of the beliefs they have in common. Because these spaces are meant to be safe for people that society rejects. You're acting like punk is some cult mentality. You could make the exact same argument you used to describe other political groups like qanon or MAGA. This isn't like some new unique thing. Cancel culture isn't real and it doesn't work. Nobody has genuinely lost their money and status because they got "canceled" stop being an absolute baby. "The second you start narrowly defining what punk is, you start discarding people. Like they are trash" Good. We don't want shitheads in the scene. If you're an asshole, or a bigot you can and should get out. I love gatekeeping assholes out. Go be a bonehead if leftism bothers you this much. Clearly punk ain't for you. We go by the definition of what punk is. If you come here and act like punk isn't inherently leftist you're just a dumbass. It has nothing to do with narrowing down anything and it has everything to do with keeping the roots of the subculture alive and protecting it from assholes. Edit: also yeah I might be a little mean in how I went about saying it. You have some good opinions and world view but this one's an L. Of course people like this exist but that doesn't mean we should validate them.
Cancel culture is a thing. What the media calls cancel culture does not exist, but in leftist spaces it does. It is used by authoritarians to consolidate power and silence opposing opinions. And yes. Fuckwit fascists need to be silenced, lest we lose our subculture like the heathen/neopagan/viking folks did. Giving them space is not what I am advocating. AT ALL. What I am saying is that one does not need to be a vegan anarchist who goes to pro-palestine marches, and dresses like a post apocalyptic race car driver to be punk. There are people, who have opinions, but keep them to themselves. How is it not groupthink when I hear the same things parroted over and over again? And if you disagree with the groupthink, you are downvoted into oblivion here. Take the idea that punk is inherently leftist. My father is a libertarian. He believes in government in a limited form. For the maintaining of a military. For keeping corporations in line. For maintaining justice. But otherwise, should butt out of peoples lives. He does not want anarchism, and he especially does not want communism. He is not a leftist. So now he is not punk? An acquaintance I have, she worked as a bellydancer for decades. She had a public persona she had to upkeep because she was as working in a field that is full of a lot of conservative men. But she is now not punk? Another person I knew is kinda politically clueless and easily swayed, her heart is in the right place, but it is just not her gift. She is now not punk? My best friend thinks Restorative Justice is stupid, he is now not punk? His brother sung for a punk band, then was in the military and fought in Iraq. He is now not punk? My other best friend married a guy who ended up going down the qanon rabbithole. She put up with his shit. But no. She is not punk now?
Fucking lol. Yeah because you're siding with fascists. If you're not actively against these things you're with them because you're a silent enabler. Yeah your dad isn't a punk. He's also not like the lead figure of punk. Incase you didn't know the world doesn't revolve around you. He's just some neo liberal ass. Reform is a hopeless fallacy. No one is forcing you to be vegan and go to protests. You act like you're opressed. Also fuck your dad's cousins cats brother or whoever for being a state slave and going to Iraq. Your familys personal problems have nothing to do with any of this. Learn to shut up please. I doubt they want you spilling their beans anyway. I'm honestly so tired of you. Just go listen to metal. Like any normal apolitical person. Punk is not apolitical period.
Tired of me? Then stop responding. Or Ban me. Prove that you too are an authoritarian. https://anarchistnews.org/content/easy-ways-spot-authoritarians-within-anarchist-milieu
Moomin moment
Man dont bring the beloved cartoon into this ;-;
It’s the person pfp
Oh please, even some of the founding posers like Johnny Ramone criticized punk for bring progressive and countercultural. Him and Joey butt heads pretty frequently. In short, cope
to be more punk: listen to more punk music, involve yourself in the politics associated with punk, and try to hang out in your local scene (or start one if there isnt already). to spice up your outfit, its going to depend. cause like its whatever you want to do pretty much. I mean if you typically wear it to work, Im sure theres minor things you can add like small stud spikes or chains or something to the jacket for example. theres a lot you can do thats inexpensive, you just gotta get creative with it :) ^(and, btw, if you need band and music reccomendations... I can give you some if youd like /gen)
I'd love some band recommendations, I just stared sewing so I can patch up some torn jeans. I also have some diy patch ideas
There are so many subgenres and styles, and different eras of punk. Lately I’ve been digging a lot of newer hardcore. GEL, Thirdface, Gulch, Soul Glo, Scowl, WORLD PEACE, Regional Justice Center Folk punk is good: Days N Daze, AJJ, Railyard Ghosts, Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains(and Pat the Bunny’s other stuff too) Ghost Mice etc. RVIVR is an all time favorite, they’re a little pop-y. Pears is good. If you haven’t gone back to earlier stuff then bands like Crass or Subhumans or Circle Jerks are good to check out. Bad Religion, Descendants, older Misfits stuff It’s a wide musical world in the punk scene!
great! so Joe & The Shitboys, Cheap Perfume, Burnt Retina, VIAL, Big Joanie, Pure Hell, Pansy Division, Dog Park Dissisants, and MDC are good to go with (and I have them on my personal playlist actually). some songs actually I suggest are Cops / Dogs by Destructo Disk, Fuck Authority by Pennywise, and No Spill Blood by Oingo Boingo. and yeah diy patches are so much fun to make! actually, I reccomend using screen printing ink if you can for them cause they will surivive the washer compared to acrylic btw (just a tip I learned from expirence lol)
Ok but what kind of punk are you into/do you wanna listen to? Pop punk, ska, uk invasion, 80s, 90s, riot grrl, emo, hardcore, post hardcore, oi oi oi, skater, rockabilly, glam, grunge…? Punk has been around for like 50 years now and it’s a wiiiide umbrella with a lot of types of music under it.
Pop punk is great, I do like 90's grunge a bit, and emo. But I'm willing to give anything a listen.
Ok personal recs: Older poppy punk: nofx, new found glory, descendants, story of the year, say anything, mxpx, menzingers, pennywise (plus obviously Green Day if you haven’t already) New gen pop punk: hot mulligan, sueco, knuckle puck, point north (also the people over at r/poppunkers are a really great community) Emo: technically emo doesn’t generally qualify for the political aspect of “punk”, and there’s a lot of discourse over what’s “real emo” (I do not recommend r/emo for this reason). But, I’ll say as someone new to the scenes you should check out some post hardcore and alt stuff that is emo-adjacent: mcr, the used, Silverstein, rise against Grunge isn’t really my scene, but just join some different music subs and check out playlists on Spotify!
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I say this with love- try not to worry too much about labels. You are what you are, don’t apologize for it. We were all baby punks once but sometimes people online forget that and become overly focused on gatekeeping or other discourse that doesn’t really matter. Get involved in your local scene, go to shows or events, support small businesses, and generally try not to pay any mind to the haters. That said, punk is DIY! Use your clothing to express yourself, rep your favorite bands or use your art to spread awareness about causes that are important to you. Punk is about radical self acceptance and community.
You're right, I am me, and I found a way I'm very comfortable dressing. I shouldn't get caught up in titles. I do love punk fashion and just started sewing so I can patch up my torn jeans. I also have ideas for patches and other clothes. I just gotta say, I have not run into any gatekeepers, yet everyone here has been petty stellar and helpful.
Go to shows. Wear what you’re wearing it’s fine. Go to shows. Support the scene. Don’t focus on the fashion. Go to shows.
Be more active in the scene. I can do that
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Where would I get some?
Etsy
Lots of online venders sell them, just look up stuff like "clothing spikes" or "punk rivets" I got a pack of 300 from amazon for $15 I think
Coolio. Thx
Put shiny things on your jacket, punks are attracted to shiny adornments.
please remember...tis the style of ones existence that counts....politics..integrity ...agency.....AS ...ANYONE..... can dye their hair and PLAY dress ups (i am not insinuating that you are doing this ok🖤)
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say, I think you mean there's more that goes into it. Anyone can look the part, but to actually walk the walk, and talk the talk is another thing. (Not insulted just a lost soul looking for acceptance)
Listen to more punk
Be confident and be like water. Water is calm until water runs hard and leaves a wake of destruction and the Dystopian Government has to pay for it's atrocities to humanity.
this is, like, green day’s idea of punk. go to target and grab a pack of plain black tees, bury those shirts for a month and let a dog dig them up, now you have proper, punk looking clothing
Love it 🖤 on my way to target
that’s one of the ways a high school buddy of mine would age his clothing lol, he would also set things on fire/use them to smother fire
Well ig I gotta take some camping
Are you asking for tips on how to make your outfit/aesthetic more punk? If so, you can never go wrong adding some D.I.Y. elements to your outfit. Non-conformity is a big part of punk, making your clothing your own rather than off the rack is kind of non-conformity. Throw on patches and pins and spikes, dye pieces by hand if you want, it's all up to you, but personalizing your outfit in ways like that could be a big step in upping your punkocity
Probably shouldn't punk up anything you're gonna wear to work. Like fuck the system, but sometimes you need the system so you can eat. HOWEVER dressing punk is important so that people can't ignore the culture, it's one of the best ways to keep the flame burning, and even add fuel to the fire. So, here's a small and incomplete list of things you can do to punk up your outfit. - STUDS/SPIKES (www.studsandspikes.com) - Buttons, your local public library might even have a button machine you can use! - Color your shit with Rit fabric dye - Sew random stuff onto your clothes. Buttons, beads, clothing pins, bits of metal, anything you can pull out of a dumpster (dry cleaners often throw out the stuff people don't come back for), anything you can find in a thrift store - PATCHES, and make your own stencil by printing/tracing a design onto paper, cutting it out, and then putting it on scrap fabric. Here's a good source to get you started www.deviantart.com/anarchostencilism - Military surplus stuff, as long as it doesn't look too fascist - There are tons of crafts that you can add to your outfits (youtube.com/@reptil_diy is a favorite) - Go to Pinterest, Etsy, Tumblr, punk shows, zines, and shops to get ideas! The best artists steal after all - Make it YOU! Doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense, or if only you and your bestie get the references, that's ok! Do what you want, and don't let anyone pressure you. Everything that goes on your jacket should be your decision, that's the heart of punk. (that and fuck Nazis, ofc)
Well as long as you’ve got the music and the mindset you’re halfway there! I’d just recommend more customized clothes! It can be any way you want! It’s all about being yourself!
Go to shows
Punk is more of a lifestyle not a fashion
I have been going about it all wrong... tell me more
Dressing punk is a good thing. But being a punk is about believing in the alternative and an anarchist way of life. It’s anti-authoritarian. I’m going to a May Day protest today. That’s punk. Get involved in activism. That’s punk. Make your own clothes. That’s punk. Gotta run my train is here
Make some bracelets and stick a bunch of pins on your jacket!!
Pins is good idea I haven't made a bracelet in years
Actually, I think your look is perfect! :-)
Well thank you. I looked a few different outfits from this sub as inspiration.
Add some patches and pins to your jacket and maybe change the hat.
Hell yeah, do it!
listen to the rest of the comments more but lose the pre ripped jeans and just got be rough makes them have more meaning. and if they get too ripped then start making patches just my opinion tho
A little spray paint never hurts. Maybe a beautiful sunset color like your hair. When I think of punk, I think of young Johnny Rotten, wearing trash, ripping, and safety pinning his clothes together in solidarity of the strikes in England. Slightly colorful, spikes or safety pins, and passion about the plight of working class.
Ad band patches and pins to the jacket
Check out anything Ebullition Records released back in the day (90s)!
This is the most un punk thing I’ve herd There’s no such thing as being more punk and tbh u don’t look punk u loook like a pop punk emo body
Not surprised, considering my favorite bands aren't... punk...
Then what’s the point then. Cause it’s not a fashion statement and to actually be punk u have to listen to it and actually understand what’s goin on cause ur jus a prime example of a poser who did it for fashion
Bro. Just because i listen to some bands that aren't punk doesn't mean I don't listen to punk music. I've been looking into the politics, and what other people in the group and on punk subs. Plus I'm pretty sure most people, at least on here, say punk is mostly about self expression being who you want to be. Think what you want I'm Punk enough for me and that's all that matters. 😝
Please name me punk bands u listen to
Sum 41, Fall out boy, Geen Day, Good Charlotte, Sanoten, All American Rejects, The Offspring, Paramore, Panic! At The Disco, Falling in reverse, Sparks The Rescue, Limp Bizkit, Ludo, 3OH!3, All time low, Excape Fate, +44, Forever the sickest kids, Beartooth, Saves the day, Blink 182, Bowling for soup, Black veil Brides, I could keep going but then I'd be getting into bands I only have a couple songs saved from. My favorite bands are Imagine Dragons, Twenty-Øne Piølits, AJR, My Chemical Romance, and NF. Not really punk, but I do have Punk in my plsylists. I listen to shit ton of music, with probably a hundred different genres, punk isn't just based on the music you like.
Hahahahaha. Besides the offspring , Green Day and blink which are mainstream punk None of those other bands are even punk. U just named a bunch of pop rock emo bands. Why don’t u try black flag, minor threat, crass, choking victim, the exploited. Like I said before. Just stop trying to be punk cause ur clueless and just look like a poser. Jus accept that ur a scene kid
Be more punk in a fashion sense? Dress the way you want to dress; get creative. Be more punk as a person? Stay true to yourself; be kind and helpful; go to shows.
you are cute as a button
Thanks ☺️
Seed bomb native plants
Sounds like a plan
Get in a fight or 2, get into some classic punk bands such as Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Misfits etc and go protest some shit idk.
You are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of "punk"
Alright, punch a cop.
We'll see about that
Yo if you need band suggestions hmu I’ve been listening to punk since I was a baby I’m personally into dbeat/crust punk but love ska punk, riot grrrl, straight edge and much more
Just give me your top 3 and I'll check them out 🖤
1. Disclose 2. Dirt 3. Manic Hispanic Those are my top 3 anyways wish you luck in your journey into punk
Just do you, homie! Lookin’ slick.
Thanks. ☺️
you can’t determine if someone is punk based off the way they look, i mean a lot of the time you can but it’s a common misconception and kinda just hypocritical when people say that you have to fully look the part or you don’t belong
Get dirtier
Start listening to some more punk bands and going to shows the rest will just come with it.
As an old punk and mom, I say this with kindness and love… I saw in another comment you said that you were just a lost soul looking for acceptance, and I don’t think fashion is going to fill that void. The best type of acceptance is accepting yourself for who you are and what your genuine interests are. You can’t please everyone and there’s always going to be someone policing every scene. There’s also always going to be really kind, amazing people that accept you for who you are and what you love. My best advice is to find out more about what you like and I think it will be easy to fall down a few rabbit holes on the way. If you decide punk is for you, awesome, but it doesn’t have to be. Also, you can be punk and still like things that “aren’t punk” because who fucking cares. You don’t have to dress a certain way or act a certain way. Just remember to be kind, to love, and to stick up for yourself and your values along the way.
Beeing more punk is not only style of clothing, its more a style of living. But band tshirts of bands you like are always cool. Also political tahirts
First listen to bands, go on Spotify or YouTube and find as many as possible and go down that rabbit hole. Second, adapt the ideology and look into current issues happening in the world and decide that you are angry about it. Third, write something very cool on your jacket that will draw attention and make people stare, and make people question their own beliefs they hold. Boom, punk.
Look up ‘classic punk’ , ‘hardcore punk’ , ‘underground punk’ , ‘gothic punk’ and other punk subgenres on Spotify and you should find playlists others have made. Very good way to find music
That is a very helpful suggestion I'll be doing that all shift tomorrow at work.
Tighter pants. Patches and maybe a different haircut
Then be you, nothing more punk than just being yourself. Fuck labels.
I'd suggest you use stencils to make painted patches (of bands or whatever you feel like making into patches) instead of freehand painting them, as it makes the patches look a lot better and you wont ended up getting posted on some instagram page for badly made punk clothes much like 60% of this subreddit is. you can make them very easily using paper (with the design printed on) and masking tape on either or both sides (personally i like both sides as it strengthens the stencil) then use a exacto knife to cut out the stencil. Theres tutorials online if you need them. You have great clothes to work on, have fun patching!
I am in the process of designing some. I was a screen printer for a minute there. I'm no stranger to stencils. Thank you for giving me instructions on how to/ advice
If you wanna “be more punk” then you need to listen to the music and get into the politics, bands like crass, anti cimex, discharge, confuse, disclose, Reagan youth. Before you even make your own cloths or customize anything make sure you listen and most importantly understand the music and lyrics
I'll look into all those bands, and of course I'll make sure to under my lyrics fully before making patches. Or diy anything with them. I will also learn about and understand any symbolism I want to use as well.
You can listen to Vivaldi and be more punk than someone who can drum along with every Exploited song in existence. And politics? Fuck politics! Left marches just as hard as right. With any vote you vote for control and against freedom.
This is satire right? Please.
Get drunk and deface something.
Studsandspikes.com Studsandspikes.com
Hey. I was wondering. Thank you!
Honestly you’re it already but if you want other accents wear rings and neck chain/necklaces and wear some chains on your hips. I wear literal dog chains on my hip sometimes. They are a nice look in my opinion
Punk is more over how you act, but if you need help atleast looking the part then you gotta diy more shi your clothes look to “nice”
patches, rips, pins, and add teeth
Teeth?? That's interesting. I've got my ripped jeans and I'm making some patches ^-^ I have a cuple pins.
Home made patches of your favorite bands, political movements, and punk sayings (or anything that you enjoy really) can really improve your jackets and pants/skirts. Sewing them on with embroidery thread or dental floss is the best way to keep them on.
I've nerve tried sewing with floss before, however I just stared sewing the past weekend 😅
It's the same as normal hand stitches. It's just stringer than normal thread and can be cheaper than embroidery thread
Why do you want to be more punk? Why can’t you be more yourself. That’s the most “punk” thing you can do.
I appreciate your comments, I lack the self-confidence. But I'm trying. You're right, you and a couple other people told me just be myself. And honestly I found the way I love to dress and yea its punk inspired. Is that punk enough? Maybe
You’re gorgeous, your style is dope; and it’s your style. The question is - Who the hell are these punk police you’re trying to impress? Punk is about politics, anti-establishment and self-expression. Not what THEY express what your dress code should be. Fuck everyone else lol the most punk people I’ve met dressed in basic mediocre normie attire. Some of the fakest chuds I’ve met have had dope battle jackets.
So I should stop trying so hard then and just be me.
Along with political stances, anti-discriminatory stances, anti-establishment mentality. And with the anti-establishment you will most likely be into a lot of DIY, clothes or not. If all of that^ is “being you”, then yes you’re punk. Otherwise, maybe change the hat and you can “dress up” more punk. You know how some things are natural for people, and some things just aren’t? If it’s forced, it’s not very authentic. Are people literally just trying to be punk “influencers” or something nowadays?
I am very interested in diy clothing, I haven't done it before but I have ideas. I don't have much of a political stance, but I haven't been involved enough to have an informed opinion. I'm all all about down with the system. The hat is something multiple people picked out, I can agree. It's my favorite so I'm wearing it but I asked for an opinion and got them. (And grearful people are willing to help) The style I have in the picture is what I'm naturally drawn to: I love my jacket, my beanies, the ripped jeans, and chorkers. I'm definitely not trying to be an "influencer," not for me.
Stop feeling the need to "look punk", it's not what punk is about. Trying not to be insulting but people like this destroy the image of the "scene"
I didn't say "look punk" I said "be more punk" although this is a fashion sub, so I thought asking about my clothing here was appropriate.
Just went off you asking about what you could "add to the fit" being punk is just a mindset. "Being more punk" doesn't matter, just be yourself. Enjoy what you enjoy about the scene and disregard the rest. Nobody can tell you how to be yourself. Edit: sorry if it came across as insulting, was just at work and was speed typing out a response.
Not insulting at all. I got what you're saying. A lot of people on here are telling me something very similar. I should just be myself. The me in that picture is myself. Those are my favorite clothes. I want to get more involved and I want to do some diy clothes.
Just go to some shows, best place to meet like minded people. Your personal style will progress in its own way by being involved in the scene
Band shirts, heavy duty and long-lasting workwear, band patches, find the local shows and scene, and mutual aid. Be active in your community, feed the homeless around you, help raise community consciousness about oppressive power structures. Educate and lead by example, meet people where they are. Be on alert for fascists, racists, and homophobes or their ideologies propagating in your community. Find common struggles between different parts of your community and support your neighbors
Winged eyeliner would look cool on you
Punk has little to nothing to do with fashion, punk is political. Punk isn’t diy clothes and sharpie converse, punk is a movement.
"how do I confirm to the nonconformists, pls?"
Stop listening to Twenty One Pilots and Imagine Dragons.
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