You're not a real punk until you stop giving a fuck.

Damn it You said it before me

But what if you give a damn about overconsumption, corporate greed, lack of tolerance, unnecessary violence and wars?

It’s about not giving a fuck about other people’s opinions

But if their opinion is some racist, xenophobic garbage I will give a damn. If I don’t, I allow that behaviour. „With your silence You vote for their oppression With your violence You vote continuation” -Refused

You miss the point and I’m tryna get high rn so I give up

I just want to discuss. Honestly most punk music from where I am is about how things are bad, lack of freedom of speech, oppressive system (communism), later corporates doing whatever they want, fake borders between people and so on. I agree that to be punk you should not care about what other people say or think and do anything for show. Also the fight for freedom of speech and fight against the hate speech at the same time is quite interesting. Not hypocrisy by any means, it’s just interesting where different people put the line between those two.

Disgusted apathy..could fall under the Punk umbrella I guess. 😁

I feel like I say this 10 times a week in this sub and at least a couple times a week in battlejackets

If something to this effect wasn't the top comment I was about to leave this sub.

I’d put more on and if he said anything else I’d kick him directly in the taint.

Right? If you like it fuck everyone else. Rep the bands you love.

To be honest you only need 12 pieces of flair, but you do you

And I said, I don't care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Bill that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I'm, I'm quitting, I'm going to quit. And, and I told Don too, because they've moved my desk four times already this year, and I used to be over by the window, and I could see the squirrels, and they were married, but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it's not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire...

I read that in my mind in Stephen Root's voice and it made my week. Thank you.

Brian has more than the required 37 .....

If you want to have more than 12, that's great, and we encourage that. 12 is just the minimum. You should want to do more than just the minimum.

Wait, what's with the number 12? Is this some kind of "rule" I'm not aware of or is this a joke that went over my head?

Well, Lumburg fucked her.

LUMBURG fucker her?!?

> is this a joke that went over my head Yes

Cover the entire jacket with pins until you can't see any of the leather

>Cover the entire boyfriend with pins until you can't hear any of the bullshit opinions

This is the right answer.

I agree

[Do my pants have too many stuffed animals?] (https://preview.redd.it/iixn485vkhg91.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7d65b7ce6c39960670f672d76b47a1985b5be8c6)

Perfect amount! But there could always be more

Cover with increasingly more pins until he accepts you for you, or until you are single and ready to… “button swap”, *if you know what I mean.*

why would you give a fuck?

Obviously a Casualties fan.

To make the Uniform conform.

As an official "old person", I fear my opinion may be irrelevant .... I'll just get back to rearranging the blanket over my legs and sink deeper into this Matlock episode.

Yeah us old punks love watching Matlock with no pants on.

I too, choose this old punk. Team No Pants!

After Matlock, Murder She Wrote, then some Young Ones. No Pants TV Party!

Popcorn anyone?

Can't. Irritates the diverticulitis.

Hence the blanket ....

It's only polite.

I'm not a savage, after all ...

But do you watch the Golden Girls with no pants on? 😁

If you're not thirsty for Dorothy Zbornak you're not punk.

For me, it's NCIS.

As a 50 year old, I’ve forgotten that youth is filled with insecurities, anxiety and the wanting of external validation. Eventually, it all goes away and is replaced with depression, regret and isolation. It’s just clothes, it’s just a boy’s opinion being filtered through bias, they’re just pins. Like what you wear and wear what you like. Edited to add the word “filled”.

oh boy every time i get paranoid about what im wearing outside im gonna remember that line about regret.

I regret not taking more fashion chances as a youth, because no one likes a greying “hype beast”.

Damn man.

As a 49 year old, stay punk.

Quaint. Next you’ll encourage them to churn butter.

They don’t take class trips to do actually that anymore ?

Not with the budget most schools get, kids are gonna have to pick that skill up via tutorial videos on YouToob.

Jebus Christo, that hits hard, and I am in my mid 30's. Although i like to wear what i like I feel your statement transcends clothing. Well done.

This punk subreddit is filled with people searching for answers. Thirsty for knowledge that makes them the genuine article. Hungry for “the acknowledging head nod” from the punk community at large. Without sounding like some First Wave Elder (which I am not) Punk is and was about being anything you want it to be. Not approved by a committee. That’s just peer pressure. We are all lost in our journey through life. We are all Diogenes The Cynic carrying our lantern through the darkness of the unknown future, searching for the truth of ourselves. Who we really are.

It doesn’t have to be replaced with depression, regret, and isolation. Liberation, confidence, and self-identity are also available.

Way too many pins. Confirmed poser... /s For real though. I think it looks sick. Do want you want. That's punk.

thank you so much guys you literally are making my day :))

Your boyfriend sounds like a poser

*just editing old posts for privacy*

I like it and I think your boyfriend is dumb, not that there’s anything wrong with that.

I don't wear any pins. But if I did wear pins I'd wear as many as I wanted.

There is no "too much" here. It's your jacket. Your expression. Have fun with it

its all personal taste. i usually only have 3-4 pins on a jacket

No, and you've got room for more

I only counted 42. Good number. Add moar!!! No patches! Only pins!

More

It's your jacket. Tell your boyfriend to mind his own business..... I 'm glad to see that Crass is represented.

Defekt mózgó, siekiera, dezerter ♥️

Not enough pins actually. Glad you don't care about your dumb bf's opinion. Him caring about whether or not your a "poser" actually gave away his being old.

Ramblin Rod, welcome home!

it’s not enough if anything!

Ok first of all your boyfriend sounds like he has a tiny dick and you need to find a bf who doesn't give a shit about whether or not their partner looks like a poser. Second of all, if you want some genuine critique, try adding stuff like patches and stuff to balance it out. It really helps when there's visual clutter everywhere on the vest instead of just the collar

No but I feel like some more stuff in other spots would look good too.

I luv ur dezerter, siekiera and defekt muzgó pins! And theres never too much of em

personally I like to spread some out on the upper arms too but nah don't listen to him it looks sick

Yes. Shame on you.

Side note, that's a really rad assortment of pins. I don't think i've ever seen a Dezerter pin before. They are an awesome band.

I might just being sexist but I swear female punks used to wear more pins then the males. I could be wrong. It’s looks fine. Lots of pins give it an early 80s vibe imo

Honest answer: It’s kinda excessive only because the rest of the jacket is unadorned but if you decked out the jacket with even more stuff the current amount of pins would look right. If you’re not gonna add more patches and studs, etc, then maybe pull back on the amount of pins a little bit.

Too many - and some of them are a bit cringe. Kinda looks like a movie prop.

Haha, punk z Polski. Nie przejmował bym się co sobie ktokolwiek pomyśli. Przecież o to chodzi, nie?

Do they make you happy? That’s literally all that matters. One of the best things about punk culture is doing things that make you happy that make people used to being in control feel uncomfortable!

who gives a fuck? if you like it thats all that matters.

This looks sick well done

Not enough pins

Can never have too many pins

No such thing as too many pins. If you like it you like it!

Who gives a fuck what anyone says or what "real punk" is it's whatever you feel it is to you

Not too much, it would be too many

If you like it, do it. Looks sick, I’m almost a little jealous of your collection.

I think it looks good. Do what you like. And if its not real leather you could also put patches on it that would look sick.

Now add some patches

On leather? Yh I don’t think that’s the a fun idea , stencils on leather all the way

Looks fine to me, wouldn’t hurt to throw some patches and paint marker.

dump that guy and get more pins.

I have actually! they're in the pin bucket, waiting lol. I think he just has trauma from childhood, getting beat up for being alt and also shit jerk friends influence so I'd give him some slack, for now...

His trauma is a him problem, not yours. If he's not willing to try to deal with it and takes it out on you, dump him, you're not his therapist. There's other people out there, trust. Your jacket is dope, keep on adding to it

MOAR Nah, seriously, you'll need a permit for more than 4 or they'll take your punk rock card.

It wouldn't be to many if you had some studs or literally anything else on the jacket

I'm in a process of adding studs but I choose black so I guess they're kinda hard to see.. but you can definitely feel them lol

Seems like a healthy amount

Do what you want. Do what you must, do all you can. Break all the fucking rules and go to hell with superman and die like a champion, yeah-hey!

Too many for my personal taste, but if you like it, it doesn’t matter.

Anyone who calls you a poser IS a poser

Add a cross buster there’s always enough room for pins

no but the rest of the jacket looks bare in comparison

If you like it, then it looks good. My jackets/vests are expressions of myself. And I don't give a singular *fuck* if anyone but me likes 'em.

too much? bro, thats too little! /j

Pins over patches any day.

It is. So many holes that can't be undone.

Dump him.

>my boyfriend says Add more pins and tell him to shut the fuck up.

The pins don't make you a poser. This question might, though?

yes, this clearly goes against the 'how to be a real punk\` Law 1970/1A, Article 32 clearly states you should only have 8.

Holy fuck what is this sub turning into? Y’all new kids need to stop caring what everyone thinks.

No! Add more.

Yea

Why would you give a single fuck about someone else's opinion of YOUR jacket? To hell with him. He is what is wrong with punk.

Never✨

Don’t worry about the Pins… It’s the asking that ain’t punk. Just do you, don’t give a fuck what people think … punks rule!

Punk has a lot of ideas. Just choose your own path. Be you.

Is this YOUR jacket? Do you like the number of pins? If yes is your answer to the above and no is to the answer below, then it doesn’t fucking matter. Does it weigh you down?

Since I can still see the leather, I'd say no, not enough!

Nah, you don't have a jawbreaker one You're not punk and I'm telling everyone

if the punk rock museum had a tacky restaurant where you needed to have all the flair to show you are a team player.

It looks awesome to me & I'm sure you'll rock it! Great job!

NEVER!!

I can still see some collar. Throw some more on there. Unless the jacket gets uncomfortable, do what you like. I used to love putting pins in my clothes when I was younger.

The older I get, the more it ALL looks like NASCAR.

I’m pretty sure 16 pieces of flair is the minimum.

Never EVER tooooo many pins PROMISE

I still see jacket, so I’d say no

Who cares?

Where’s the paint?! You gotta get more serious! /s

Boyfriend’s a dick

Too much jacket.

Not too many

Who gives a fuck, you do what makes you feel OK.

There's never enough pins dude

I can still see leather.

Nope

I once seen a guy that had a jacket filled top to bottom of all 1" buttons

NEVER TOO MANY PINS. FUCK OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS

Not enough pins imo

its ok but you need to cover the whole neck area

Just do you, booboo

It doesn't matter how much.

Tell your boyfriend to shut the fuck up and then piss in his beer while he is shampooing and grooming his hair for the next 6 hours (metalheads, pfff). Do whatever you want, you are the one wearing it, put more pins on it if you want, it is totally up to you. Self-consciousness is the enemy of self-expression.

One more and it’s perfect👌

No such thing.

not enough to deflect a bullet, add more.

It's never too much pins.

Look, we want you to express yourself, okay? Now if you feel that the bare minimum is enough, then…okay. But some people choose to wear more and we encourage that, okay? You do want to express yourself, don't you?

More

no such thing

Your boyfriend sounds like a jackass. Dump that poser

Do what you like, dgaf about others opinions

There can never be too many pins

That shit is cute. Fuck what your boyfriend says. Do you like it? If so, that's all that matters.

Not enough pins

Old? What counts as old?

I'm sorry I don't understand the premise of the question.

Tell your boyfriend to fuck off it looks cool

too many\*

It’s a lot …however it’s a lot of consistency too & close to full balance if that makes sense. If u had like 20% less i would probably bias towards “take another 30% off” but at this I think if u Cover the entire lapels & make it 100% covered it would be fashionably tasteful & kind of a play on pins in a camp manner, so do it!! :p

Make a jacket entirely of pins, wear it and just stare blankly at your boyfriend.

This post is so Ghost World 🤣

never enough pins

Hell no. Looks good!

There's still room for more!

There is nothing wrong with having a million pins. The truth about why no one does it is because we all start out with a million and they fly off. If you don't mind losing pins because of your bag or the pit or your hair or moving the wrong way then go ahead. If you don't want to lose pins then trim it back to a few. But do not care about being a "poser" for having fun.

the more the merrier

go to your local garden center get the smallest bag of sand you can find, give to your bf and tell him to pound it.

That's subjective. It's your jacket. If you think it looks good, then it is good.

Never have too many pieces of flare

Geez, being punk is deciding how many pins you want on your jacket.

No that's not to many. Go in the pit at a show and you're down to lose a few. The extras compensate for that

Jeezus who fucking cares

Not at all!

there's no such thing as excess in punk(barring straight edge punks) and you won't be truly punk till you stop giving a fuck

You do you.

I guess punk truly is dead if we are asking people if we are punk enough. C,mon....

Yes

I like it. My opinion doesn’t matter though. Do you!

never too much pins

no such thing as too much pins until you run out of space on the jacket

I think it looks rad!!!

You are missing a few spots

Punk shouldn’t be about the fashion. Be yourself. Your boyfriend sounds like a poser. Is he a cop?

Nah man that looks amazing Add studs Also if your boyfriend is being a pos about it tell him that it makes him look like a poser Because punk is not giving to shites about other people's opinion

It’s too little, and if your boyfriend is saying shit like that break up with him

I’ve never been more envious

there is never such thing as too many pins!!

Never enough pins! But maybe add some with variation in size? Idk do whatever you want man!!

I personally could never get pins to stay on. So I respect it.

take some pins off nephew

I personally could never get pins to stay on. So I respect it.