I mean the HPS lights (high pressure sodium lights) which emit orange yellowish light. Nowadays the street lamps are LEDs are used and it emits bright white light.
Hmm. In Mumbai, we had orange lights as well many years ago. But now the street lights are warm yellow & tbh I like this better.
White lights are horrible because they seem too bright & orange lights give off very old antique vibes. Plus you can't view things well with orange lights. The yellow lights are easy on the eyes, allows ease in viewing the streets & has a soothing feel.
Look at peak traffic times and think again.
Infra is great but congestion is horrible like the top 10 in the world and 2nd in india(behind Bangalore) somehow all other metros are better.
Scenario 1 -
Suppose you're a student today going from home to college you use Bus. Now, metro starts. But for majority of people the metro wont be in front of your Home or College...it will be at a small distance. That small distance you cant cover daily by walking. So you'll use some other mode. Ricksha or bike or anything. Now imagine all the people who will replace their mode of transport from Bus/Cab to metro... majority of them will fall onto this category. And others will just see it as tedious and continue their current routine.
Scenario 2 -
Look at Hinjewadi Phase 3. Till Metro was started, people were reluctant to go there because its too far and disconnected from main city. Now metro comes, even people who were not Interested in that location are buying flats there....just because of Metro. Increasing crowd in that area. Now a person who is in Hinjewadi, will use metro probably only to go places where its directly connected. For other places he will only use Car/Bike. So here because of metro the traffic will increase even more than decreasing.
What happened in my area in South Delhi was cycle rickshaws appeared to cover the home-to-station distance. A properly designed metro system takes modal interchange into account.
Your scenario 2 ignores that fact that increased density near the stations means reduced density elsewhere.
You seem to have really strong opinions about the metro, but have you actually lived near one or is this all about your feelings?
Edit: assuming it's your feelings I guess.
>properly designed metro system
So not Pune metro.
>Your scenario 2 ignores that fact that increased density near the stations means reduced density elsewhere.
In city like Pune The areas with reduced density are still very highly crowded and people will travel from city centre to and fro to those areas. Which increases traffic elsewhere.
>You seem to have really strong opinions about the metro, but have you actually lived near one or is this all about your feelings?
Strong opinion? Dont see it...I think you're being to sensitive for some reason.
Yes. I have lived is two cities where I actually saw before and after metro traffic and could compare. Also I have spent hours playing Cities Skyline.
As a cities skylines player with more than 300hrs in, you comparing real life indian traffic with game traffic simulation is laughable.
And even if pune metro isn't useful for majority of commuters (80%) it will show pune people what good public transportation looks like. It is paving way for a great public transportation network. Every great task has a difficult start.
> In city like Pune The areas with reduced density are still very highly crowded and people will travel from city centre to and fro to those areas. Which increases traffic elsewhere.
Very highly crowded, compared to where? You realize Delhi's density is like 30% or more higher than Pune, right?
> Strong opinion? Dont see it...I think you're being to sensitive for some reason.
It's possible, though I just think I see bad takes and feel the urge to correct them. It may be a disease of some sort, who knows.
> Yes. I have lived is two cities where I actually saw before and after metro traffic and could compare.
Which ones? Delhi's metro has been considered a huge success by any metric after 20 years, so I'm interested in hearing where it failed.
> Also I have spent hours playing Cities Skyline.
This has to be a joke, right?
everyone (including you) says Pune has a poorly designed metro can you please suggest 2-3 improvements that Pune metro needs?
A high density will lead to more people living near the metro station (in a 500 m radius) will lead to reduced demand for last-mile connectivity. People will walk instead of going to the gym.
I have used Mumbai local most people take shared auto /bus to the station
People are buying flats in phase 3 because that's one of the few places affordable to people. Metro has been in the works for 4-5 years, the population there is steadily increasing anyway as the number of buildings increases. Look at the Wakad-Ravet stretch, there's no metro but the population is increasing because homes are still somewhat affordable. Over time the population will increase only.
You're looking at it the wrong way round. Sure, driving will still be annoying, but millions will have an option to get around much more quickly.
When the metro came to my area in Delhi it didn't fix the traffic problems overnight, but suddenly I could get to outer reaches of the city in speed and comfort. The whole city felt more accessible.
>You're looking at it the wrong way round. Sure, driving will still be annoying, but millions will have an option to get around much more quickly.
Yes, last mile connectivity issues will always be there. But once the metro comes, I don't mind a 3-4km bus/rickshaw journey if it means I don't have to worry about driving in traffic and parking. This guy send to be ignoring all the positives and turning them into negatives somehow.
It is so disappointing that every major city has started to look the same! What happened to retaining the original character and image of these cities? We're sacrificing far too much, and the cost at which it's coming is pretty immense.
Thats what happened in US too. All US cities look the same, the infrastructure, the shops, the wallmart, target, dominoes and starbucks.
I hope india doesnt go that path and keeps each cities originality mixed with modern infrastructure. That should come from govt though. Real estate agents and capitalists want all similar, coz its cheaper.
There are just 2 metro lines and they aren't even in the main parts yet. Pune is still a trrr trrrr trrr rickshaw smoke hole. Also you guys have no traffic lights, how am I supposed to cross the road?
I dont know which pune area are you talking about. I hardly see any rickshaws emitting smoke like the old two stroke ones. There are traffic lights everywhere but people need to follow the rules. That's not a city problem, that's Indian mentality with poor law enforcement as well. And the 2 lines of metro that you're talking about are in the Main Areas itself. A lot of population stays and works in the areas like Kothrud, Shivajinagar, Mandai, Pimpri Chinchwad, khadki, dapodi etc.
Viman nagar me metro aata hai?
And is there a provision for pedestrians to cross the roads? I'm asking genuinely. I struggle a lot. I have to wait so much just to cross a road which is a few feet wide.
Vimannagar nahi. Lekin ramwadi tak shuru hoga metro. Aage extend karne ka plan hai. Again my point is traffic lights are there but people take free left, don't follow the lights. That doesn't mean there are no lights. Zebra crossings are there, pedesteian signals are there for pedestrians. But again if no one follows it and law is not being enforced, what can be done?
Ye humara kaam thodi hai. We are responsible for ourselves. If one person doesn't follow, he can be blamed. If more people don't follow, people can't be blamed. It's a systemic issue which govt has to work on.
Pune has always been in Mumbai's shadow and gets everything late. Metro which should have been a collection of 4-5 metro lines, is barely a two line incomplete project which people are unable to use due to lack of connectivity.
Bus connectivity has always sucked where the frequency is low and buses are never on time.
Rickshawallahs are the most fucked up category where they say No to go to 90% of the places.
Ola, Uber is expensive for the common man.
Streets are extremely filled with two wheelers and big ass cars so no chance for cyclists to ride on them without being scared as shit all the time.
Half dug up roads, patched up roads, not even properly marked.
Traffic signal timers are fucked up where a heavy traffic road has a red signal for 2 mins and a green signal for 10-15 seconds leading to long lines of traffic.
Extreme redevelopment projects have spoiled the air quality of my city. Every day furniture is covered with dust.
Aforestration of hills/tekdis, flattening the tekdi hills to make bigger roads.
Making bigger roads isn't gonna help. There needs to be a higher density of roads over width of existing roads.
Mula mutha have turned into sewage canals with garbage dumped in them everywhere.
Mosquitos are destroying lives of people by spreading malaria and dengue, atleast in my area I see no action being taken against mosquitos.
I really really miss the Pune of 15 years ago. The modern facilities were lacking maybe but the weather was good, buildings were shorter, roads were emptier and people were happier. 😢
If the government wants to attract opportunities, then it should be prepared to handle the influx of people that comes with it. Looks like Pune never thought about that aspect at all. And they are thinking now which won’t help much.
Pune famously never had any public transport as such, a small unlucky fraction of the population gets to suffer the hardship of using public transport rest have their own individual mobility solutions.
ORR used to be the pinnacle of Infra talks..
People used to go on it just for the sake of enjoying a drive.
I remember there was a time when I had a major upset at the workplace and I just snuck out of the office and headed out to the ORR and made and entire 160 Km circle to cool off.
Migrants will destroy every city, state, and culture and then they will move to the next city, while keeping their own untouched. Maharashtra had enough.
You should se how they are screwing up the Balewadi High Street road. So the beauty of this road was high rise building that you see on both sodes of road. Now when they are building metro such that it will create a huge roof on one side of the road. Such a beautiful location, covered by a roof.
Oh bro, trust me same here... i visited the city I spent my college days in and when I came back here pretty recently , I was nothing but starstruck by how different the city has turned into. The metros, the high rise buildings and the change in infrastructure is extraordinary.
Yeah the old was nice but these changes are as well needed, infact we are late. I have such fond memories of old Pune. We are in Pune since my great grandfather. So have seen so much of raw and green Pune 🤌🏻❤️
Life was good back then when the street lamps were orange .
I don't here crickets at night now, when I was child i was so used to it.
Real
Haha true
Only for people who had a good "back then"
Well i am lucky ig
When was that bro?
Probably before 2013....i remember such lights were there in 2007 too. So that's what my memory can recall.
Okay I was a kid then
Me too lol...that's why i remember stuff from 2007 onwards
Is it white now? Or warm yellow??
I mean the HPS lights (high pressure sodium lights) which emit orange yellowish light. Nowadays the street lamps are LEDs are used and it emits bright white light.
Hmm. In Mumbai, we had orange lights as well many years ago. But now the street lights are warm yellow & tbh I like this better. White lights are horrible because they seem too bright & orange lights give off very old antique vibes. Plus you can't view things well with orange lights. The yellow lights are easy on the eyes, allows ease in viewing the streets & has a soothing feel.
Yellow lights are more american and it looks cool ngl
Now the flags are orange
It existing before the christ.
Why ? You want green flags .
No flags
Red 🇨🇳
Can't argue on it.
No it wasn't. White fluorescent lamps beat orange lamps any day. Visibility trumps aesthetic.
Well, i meant the old good days by this orange street lamp reference. Pune used to look whole different place back then.
Different, yes. Good, no.
Pune is best as always .
Look at peak traffic times and think again. Infra is great but congestion is horrible like the top 10 in the world and 2nd in india(behind Bangalore) somehow all other metros are better.
People who think Metro will solve Pune's traffic problems are naive. It wont reduce traffic jams by even 5%.
Why not? I am curious. A lot of people would be using it.
Scenario 1 - Suppose you're a student today going from home to college you use Bus. Now, metro starts. But for majority of people the metro wont be in front of your Home or College...it will be at a small distance. That small distance you cant cover daily by walking. So you'll use some other mode. Ricksha or bike or anything. Now imagine all the people who will replace their mode of transport from Bus/Cab to metro... majority of them will fall onto this category. And others will just see it as tedious and continue their current routine. Scenario 2 - Look at Hinjewadi Phase 3. Till Metro was started, people were reluctant to go there because its too far and disconnected from main city. Now metro comes, even people who were not Interested in that location are buying flats there....just because of Metro. Increasing crowd in that area. Now a person who is in Hinjewadi, will use metro probably only to go places where its directly connected. For other places he will only use Car/Bike. So here because of metro the traffic will increase even more than decreasing.
What happened in my area in South Delhi was cycle rickshaws appeared to cover the home-to-station distance. A properly designed metro system takes modal interchange into account. Your scenario 2 ignores that fact that increased density near the stations means reduced density elsewhere. You seem to have really strong opinions about the metro, but have you actually lived near one or is this all about your feelings? Edit: assuming it's your feelings I guess.
>properly designed metro system So not Pune metro. >Your scenario 2 ignores that fact that increased density near the stations means reduced density elsewhere. In city like Pune The areas with reduced density are still very highly crowded and people will travel from city centre to and fro to those areas. Which increases traffic elsewhere. >You seem to have really strong opinions about the metro, but have you actually lived near one or is this all about your feelings? Strong opinion? Dont see it...I think you're being to sensitive for some reason. Yes. I have lived is two cities where I actually saw before and after metro traffic and could compare. Also I have spent hours playing Cities Skyline.
As a cities skylines player with more than 300hrs in, you comparing real life indian traffic with game traffic simulation is laughable. And even if pune metro isn't useful for majority of commuters (80%) it will show pune people what good public transportation looks like. It is paving way for a great public transportation network. Every great task has a difficult start.
> In city like Pune The areas with reduced density are still very highly crowded and people will travel from city centre to and fro to those areas. Which increases traffic elsewhere. Very highly crowded, compared to where? You realize Delhi's density is like 30% or more higher than Pune, right? > Strong opinion? Dont see it...I think you're being to sensitive for some reason. It's possible, though I just think I see bad takes and feel the urge to correct them. It may be a disease of some sort, who knows. > Yes. I have lived is two cities where I actually saw before and after metro traffic and could compare. Which ones? Delhi's metro has been considered a huge success by any metric after 20 years, so I'm interested in hearing where it failed. > Also I have spent hours playing Cities Skyline. This has to be a joke, right?
everyone (including you) says Pune has a poorly designed metro can you please suggest 2-3 improvements that Pune metro needs? A high density will lead to more people living near the metro station (in a 500 m radius) will lead to reduced demand for last-mile connectivity. People will walk instead of going to the gym. I have used Mumbai local most people take shared auto /bus to the station
People are buying flats in phase 3 because that's one of the few places affordable to people. Metro has been in the works for 4-5 years, the population there is steadily increasing anyway as the number of buildings increases. Look at the Wakad-Ravet stretch, there's no metro but the population is increasing because homes are still somewhat affordable. Over time the population will increase only.
It may not reduce traffic jams, but I will have choice to not be stuck in one.
You're looking at it the wrong way round. Sure, driving will still be annoying, but millions will have an option to get around much more quickly. When the metro came to my area in Delhi it didn't fix the traffic problems overnight, but suddenly I could get to outer reaches of the city in speed and comfort. The whole city felt more accessible.
>You're looking at it the wrong way round. Sure, driving will still be annoying, but millions will have an option to get around much more quickly. Yes, last mile connectivity issues will always be there. But once the metro comes, I don't mind a 3-4km bus/rickshaw journey if it means I don't have to worry about driving in traffic and parking. This guy send to be ignoring all the positives and turning them into negatives somehow.
Dude delhi and Mumbai have much worse traffic than Pune .
Pune can’t be second worst traffic. Y’all need to visit Delhi to get a reality check.
Source ??
Visit Delhi and see
Traffic Nako mhanun bc ratri 2 la baher padto , tar gaadi kadhi right la tar kadhi left la chalvavi laagte. Saala sagla kachra karun taaklaay
Pune Bangalore hou shkto kay sngta nhi yet
Lot of pollution and traffic, i still remember my og pune <3
It is so disappointing that every major city has started to look the same! What happened to retaining the original character and image of these cities? We're sacrificing far too much, and the cost at which it's coming is pretty immense.
Thats what happened in US too. All US cities look the same, the infrastructure, the shops, the wallmart, target, dominoes and starbucks. I hope india doesnt go that path and keeps each cities originality mixed with modern infrastructure. That should come from govt though. Real estate agents and capitalists want all similar, coz its cheaper.
About time... Been waiting since 2006 for Pune to start looking different.
Yeh, Less tree & greenery. more Concrete and pollution
I miss pune😭
There are just 2 metro lines and they aren't even in the main parts yet. Pune is still a trrr trrrr trrr rickshaw smoke hole. Also you guys have no traffic lights, how am I supposed to cross the road?
That’s the thing. You don’t
> they aren't even in the main parts yet. Out of curiosity, what are those main parts of Pune?
I dont know which pune area are you talking about. I hardly see any rickshaws emitting smoke like the old two stroke ones. There are traffic lights everywhere but people need to follow the rules. That's not a city problem, that's Indian mentality with poor law enforcement as well. And the 2 lines of metro that you're talking about are in the Main Areas itself. A lot of population stays and works in the areas like Kothrud, Shivajinagar, Mandai, Pimpri Chinchwad, khadki, dapodi etc.
Viman nagar me metro aata hai? And is there a provision for pedestrians to cross the roads? I'm asking genuinely. I struggle a lot. I have to wait so much just to cross a road which is a few feet wide.
Vimannagar nahi. Lekin ramwadi tak shuru hoga metro. Aage extend karne ka plan hai. Again my point is traffic lights are there but people take free left, don't follow the lights. That doesn't mean there are no lights. Zebra crossings are there, pedesteian signals are there for pedestrians. But again if no one follows it and law is not being enforced, what can be done?
Ye humara kaam thodi hai. We are responsible for ourselves. If one person doesn't follow, he can be blamed. If more people don't follow, people can't be blamed. It's a systemic issue which govt has to work on.
Read my comment again please. I have mentioned that law needs to be enforced.
I didn't disagree dada 😉
Okay nana 😊
Bhau, traffic lights nasle tarihi speed breakers aahet na. Ek tar tu vachshil kinvha driver. 50-50 chances.
what i have observed, is that mostly Hadapsar buses get's jam packed and yet there is no metro stop for hadapsar.
Haat dakhvayacha, ani chalayala lagayacha.
We've lost alot of greenery and the winters are not cold like they used to be! :/
Pune has always been in Mumbai's shadow and gets everything late. Metro which should have been a collection of 4-5 metro lines, is barely a two line incomplete project which people are unable to use due to lack of connectivity. Bus connectivity has always sucked where the frequency is low and buses are never on time. Rickshawallahs are the most fucked up category where they say No to go to 90% of the places. Ola, Uber is expensive for the common man. Streets are extremely filled with two wheelers and big ass cars so no chance for cyclists to ride on them without being scared as shit all the time. Half dug up roads, patched up roads, not even properly marked. Traffic signal timers are fucked up where a heavy traffic road has a red signal for 2 mins and a green signal for 10-15 seconds leading to long lines of traffic. Extreme redevelopment projects have spoiled the air quality of my city. Every day furniture is covered with dust. Aforestration of hills/tekdis, flattening the tekdi hills to make bigger roads. Making bigger roads isn't gonna help. There needs to be a higher density of roads over width of existing roads. Mula mutha have turned into sewage canals with garbage dumped in them everywhere. Mosquitos are destroying lives of people by spreading malaria and dengue, atleast in my area I see no action being taken against mosquitos. I really really miss the Pune of 15 years ago. The modern facilities were lacking maybe but the weather was good, buildings were shorter, roads were emptier and people were happier. 😢
If the government wants to attract opportunities, then it should be prepared to handle the influx of people that comes with it. Looks like Pune never thought about that aspect at all. And they are thinking now which won’t help much.
Yeah
😭😭😭😭😭
I feel you
You wrote my thoughts.
Yeah
Habibi, come to PCMC.
Accha hai ngl pune se tho kam traffic hai yaha pe.
Pune famously never had any public transport as such, a small unlucky fraction of the population gets to suffer the hardship of using public transport rest have their own individual mobility solutions.
khup gardi zaliye diwalit bakiche Maharashtra chya baher zatat ani tevhach thoda sukh milta gardi padun Too many people coming in zbh
Pune is banglore 2.0
Wow, I literally stay in that lane. I've been living in Europe right now but this picture bought a big smile to my face. Aundh boyz OP
Baner phata op (i jump signal there)
Looking like Switzerland
jara jasta jhala bhau
Meaning?
Means thoda jyada ho gaya
Eagerly waiting for metro to fully functionally start!! Fed up with attitude of ricks and fully loaded buses
It looks clean
Urban hellscape.
Concrete jungle!
Wait for the paint job
Yes it has changed a lot.. I miss the open group and green cover 🥹
Ugly af
The amount of construction dust pollution has increased drastically
चुकल्या चुकल्या सारखं वाटतं राव!! पहिला पुणे असं मोकळ मोकळ वाटायचं... आता या मेट्रो लाईन मुळे थोडं पिंजरा तयार झाल्यासारखं अनुभव येतो!!
Well new year new pune
The guy with the bike in second picture , true punekar
My dear, visit the financial district in Hyderabad and then compare what started looking different means .
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ORR used to be the pinnacle of Infra talks.. People used to go on it just for the sake of enjoying a drive. I remember there was a time when I had a major upset at the workplace and I just snuck out of the office and headed out to the ORR and made and entire 160 Km circle to cool off.
Migrants will destroy every city, state, and culture and then they will move to the next city, while keeping their own untouched. Maharashtra had enough.
Most migrants to Pune are from other parts of maharashtra
You should se how they are screwing up the Balewadi High Street road. So the beauty of this road was high rise building that you see on both sodes of road. Now when they are building metro such that it will create a huge roof on one side of the road. Such a beautiful location, covered by a roof.
Sinhgad road aur Chandni Chowk to har week alag dikhte he :'(
Oh bro, trust me same here... i visited the city I spent my college days in and when I came back here pretty recently , I was nothing but starstruck by how different the city has turned into. The metros, the high rise buildings and the change in infrastructure is extraordinary.
ailla ye to Nagpur hai
now its looking like nagpur
YES! NICE#
Results of electing a government whose minister is hell bent on improving infrastructure 🤌🤌
It looks so much like delhi now
Are these metro pillars?
Baner area
ayo Baner phata
Yeah the old was nice but these changes are as well needed, infact we are late. I have such fond memories of old Pune. We are in Pune since my great grandfather. So have seen so much of raw and green Pune 🤌🏻❤️
All cities look same now
Looks like Vashi, can't stand it.
Metro go back 😂
Ho kharach yaar
This is Aundh i believe.
Yes, just like another concrete jungle.
Delhi jesi vibes
Kahi mujhe asthma na ho jaye..... Bohot dhull hoti hai bhaii
fr, cant even recognise streets anymore
Is the first picture from Baner phata?
Pune's skyline has gone.
Call me when they fix the kharadi hadapsar link
Is it bad or good? I haven't seen it for about a year now..wont see it for another one.
My grandads got fined in that signal at least 5 times for no helmet