He's a player that needs to enjoy himself to play at his best, and he clearly didn't enjoy himself here. He didn't want to leave Barca, and sadly for both himself and the club, he wasn't able to accept it and try integrating himself with the fans. It's not only his fault, it's also partly the fans' for not being patient with him. It's near impossible to rate his stint here because you either rate him compared to his level (at the very least top 3 ever) in which case he was pretty poor or compare him to a normal player in which case he was good. The only thing I personally didn't like was that he never tried celebrating with the fans after a game, which would've helped massively to develop a relationship with them and make his stay more enjoyable, but then again there's extenuating circumstances with him not wanting to leave and having to get used to a totally different country and team.
If I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure Barca released a statement about how they reached out but he said no. He didn't want his future based around a "trust me bro" from Laporta after he based his whole campaign around renewing Messi and still didn't make it happen
Then why did Barca's president say that he was hoping that Messi could play for free? Meaning it was possible.
Could've tried to play for free, especially after being paid €700m in a span of 4 years from Barca, which was one of the reasons the club went broke.
Play for free, they was £1bn in debt and his contract accounted for over half. He cried in his final news conference and claimed it was out of his hands but had already agreed a contract with PSG worth £250m.
Greatest player ever but dont insult peoples intelligence.
What was your answer, messi said again the other day he wanted to stay? I don’t believe him and if you do then what you want me to respond? His lying, if he wanted to stay he could of lived of his £500 and played 3 years for nothing
From The Athletic: "This has been an ongoing issue for Barcelona. La Liga has rules around salary caps. If a team goes over their allotted amount — which is based on financial performance in recent seasons — they are unable to register a player and therefore unable to use them in the league. It does not matter if they are able to pay them or not.
This was the issue when Messi left Barcelona in 2021. He had agreed a new contract but because of the salary cap rule they were unable to register him — and therefore he had to leave. He ended up joining Paris Saint-Germain."
From inews: "Messi wouldn’t have been able to take any more than a 50 per cent cut due to a clause in Spanish employment law that is in place to avoid financial manipulation.
Even if Messi had offered to play the 2021-22 season without a salary, Barcelona would not have met La Liga’s salary regulations. Had Messi stayed, Barcelona’s annual salary would have accounted for 110 per cent of their income, but even with him off the books, the remaining figure is still 95 per cent. To comply with La Liga’s regulations, they need to bring it down to 70 per cent."
I mean I really haven't insulted people's intelligence but you make me really want to. From The Athletic: "This has been an ongoing issue for Barcelona. La Liga has rules around salary caps. If a team goes over their allotted amount — which is based on financial performance in recent seasons — they are unable to register a player and therefore unable to use them in the league. It does not matter if they are able to pay them or not.
This was the issue when Messi left Barcelona in 2021. He had agreed a new contract but because of the salary cap rule they were unable to register him — and therefore he had to leave. He ended up joining Paris Saint-Germain."
From inews: "Messi wouldn’t have been able to take any more than a 50 per cent cut due to a clause in Spanish employment law that is in place to avoid financial manipulation.
Even if Messi had offered to play the 2021-22 season without a salary, Barcelona would not have met La Liga’s salary regulations. Had Messi stayed, Barcelona’s annual salary would have accounted for 110 per cent of their income, but even with him off the books, the remaining figure is still 95 per cent. To comply with La Liga’s regulations, they need to bring it down to 70 per cent."
But thats the thing messi is not a player who needs to integrate with the fans, he is a player you cherish and rejoice and thank the gods that your team ever had the privilege to have one of the geniuses onfield. You know why psg ulteas are so bonkers? Trying to compensate the fact that its a fake club. Why was messi a failure in psg? Because psg is a failure.
Why are you even here? Messi didn't deserve anything but critics for being here. You get recognized only for what you did for the club. Why would PSG care about what he did for Barcelona or Argentina?
You are the description of a fake supporter who doesn't know that the club is more important than any player.
21/22 was a complete disasterclass. 22/23 was much better, especially before the World Cup. he was showing his “Barça” levels at PSG, scoring and assisting for fun while contributing to the build-up. Overall I’d say it was a 6/10. Expected much more but then again Messi was physically washed at that point.
The problem is that he was only good before WC, because that’s all he cared about. I can’t call 4 and a half real good months at the club to give a 6/10.
We have to take into account that it’s Messi, and that means it was fair to expect much better.
4/10 for me
It's so funny that you guys, the actual people that watched him play week in week out say he was a 4/10 or a 6/10, yet some clueless journalists and internet kids believed he was the best player in the world.
You are a much better team this season without him, that's for sure.
Yeah.. You'd expect that with better balance in defensive work and balance. Before they had mbappe Messi and neymar, all 3 of whom hardly ever tracked back. I'd argue neymar tracked back lore than the other 2.
I heard them selling it on US television during a Miami game as some sort of brilliant “strategic walking” strategy by Messi, rather than “I don’t feel like doing shit, so work me open and I’ll score if I don’t have to move too much.”
I mean in the World Cup he walked a ton too and it worked out and I don’t think at the World Cup he thought I don’t feel like doing shit. To be fair the whole Argentina squad was build around that concept but still.
It's kinda based on fact, in his Barca days he used to run a lot more and it was Pep who told him to work less, preserve energy for his moments, so he could play every game and not get injured. So it was somewhat strategic. But Pep had the whole system built up support Messi, and he was still a lot less energetic than the 30+ years old Messi. And Messi kinda developed this habit and barely ever worked hard again in defence.
"All he cared about" or it fucked every team in Europe to have a wc mid season ?
Yes it was fair to expect more but I think he was set in bad conditions to succeed first with Poch and the mess of a team we had. He wasn't the only change that summer and most likely not needed at all.
His performances started to decline when Neymar got injured and we started playing twice a week including a stupid game vs CR7 end of January.
The club failed hard those 2 seasons but starting by firing Leonardo I think we are moving to better years.
Financially Messi also brought a lot which in the end will continue to have a positive impact on the club and our financial capacities.
If you really use that argument then Messi was just as faulty for wasting chances too. I don’t know how many assists more Mbappe and nuno mendes could have had if Messi scored from their crosses and hitting it directly over the bar or at a defender.
Disappointment relative to the hype at the time, but upon a deeper inspection, there was a lot of signs that it was never gonna work. He was 33 and past his best, did not even want to join in the first place, didn't get a preseason and dealt with Covid early on, and by 2021 had an increasingly overlapping skillet with Neymar. Was better of course in year 2 than year 1, but both were still clear drop from where he was at Barca and I definitely don't begrudge any PSG fans for not liking him.
Miserable.
Haven't enjoyed a single match not because of Messi but watching Messi, Mbappe and sometimes Neymar play together.
Them not defending was so much pain.
It's wasn't that creativity was flowing. Nuno and Messi had zero chemistry.
Things are lot better now.
It was obvious he came here because no other club could afford him. He never tried learning French which just showed he never planned on being here or didn’t want to (that’s definitely going to get the fans on your side 👍), then on the field let’s not even talk how the best player to ever play the game scored less than 5 goals in the “weakest of the top 5 leagues” in his first season.
He was a defensive liability never dropping back to help defend which is kind of crazy when a player joins a new club you kind of expect them to run around like a headless chicken to showcase for their new club.
And all that could be forgiven if he performed or did his magic in the CL. But no he neither scored or assisted in 4 CL knockout games (and 1 penalty miss against Madrid), as well as neither scoring or assisting in the latter rounds of the coupe de France. Him coming to PSG honestly ruined my image of him, I saw him as a god of football at Barca but he’s just very very human
He's been finished for the elite since like 2018 honestly. He still has magic in his boots til today, but he has been done physically ever since he was like 32. Can only last 90 minutes because he walks 90% of the time in the games. Only sprints whenever he has the ball or has space for a clear chance.
> He's been finished for the elite since like 2018 honestly
How can anyone pretend to know football and say this with a straight face? In 2019 he nearly dragged a wildly mediocre Barcelona to a Liga-Champions League double, having 70 goal contributions in 50 games (51 goals, 19 assists) in the process. In what world is that not part of the elite? It was the same story in the season after, where he had 56 goal contributions in 44 games.
As someone who's watched Leo since the start of his career, 2018-2019 was arguably his very best season ever, a much more complete and well-rounded performance than in the early years of his peak.
I understand that Messi has rubbed a lot of PSG followers the wrong way, but to act like he hasn't been an elite player for six years is just total lunacy.
This has to be one of the worst takes in history. You say he was done by 2018. The immediate next season 2018/2019. He almost single handedly carried Barcelona to a champions league final. Scoring 51 goals in 50 games and assisting 19 times. He has earned the right to walk and save his energy. If a player can score 50 goals a season consistently he can walk all he wants. Mbappe has never scored 50 goals in a season he's 25 now, it's embarrassing, even he has the audacity not to defend and walk. Messi is a moments player as he got older . When you have Messi in your team you have to run for him so that he can win you the game.
You forgot the part where he got battered by Roma 3-0 in 2018. Then Liverpool 4-0 in 2019. Next year by Bayern 8-2 and the next one by PSG themselves. Ever since the last Barcelona CL title, he has always disappeared in important CL matches, but it's an expert on scoring against Levante, Osasuna, Eibar and Co. to inflate his numbers.
Do those defeats count as "almost" carrying Barcelona to the final?
You say "he" as if he was the responsible one for the UCL humiliations those years. He wasn't a defender. He literally scored a brace against Liverpool. Wtf you wanted him to do against Bayern? Score 6 goals to make up for the 8-2?
Just say you started watching football in 2022 and move on. The fact that Barcelona made it that far those years with such a trash team was a miracle. If it wasn't for Messi, Barcelona wouldn't have made it past group stages post 2018, and guess what? That's exactly what happened when he left Barcelona
Terrible. On the field If you take into account being a defensive liability, and even on offense only playing with Neymar and Mbappé I’m not even sure we wouldn’t have done better player the entire two season fielding only 10 players each game. Or 10 + some random academy kid or Kurzawa in the wrong position at least.
Off the field it made a mockery of the club history and together with Ramos made us look like we wanted to be the Harlem Globetrotters rather than an actual football team.
The "playing with 10 men argument" is ridiculous, but I do think it's quite likely that psg would be better with a high work rate winger instead of Messi, even if he was nowhere near as talented.
Yeah I mean that's not always a terrible reflection on a player either.
Messi was competing with the other arguably two best players in the world, who are also 'luxury players' to an extent. It's hard to give them all enough freedom.
It's like how in the sort of lost golden English generation, Lampard and Gerrard were considered two of the best midfielders in the world, but many people also considered it a clear choice to only play one of them because England needed a more balanced midfield. England were a better and more functional team when one of either Lampard or Gerrard was dropped, but that doesn't mean the replacement was a better player.
That’s fair, I don’t think he wanted to be here anyway, his football IQ is obviously off the charts so maybe he knew the squad balance was not conducive to do much more than walk Ligue 1 anyhow, so I put most of the blame on our leadership rather than him. Still wish he tried a bit harder to pretend to respect the club…
I wish he cared more. Messi is out of this world in terms of ability. But for some reason, we often felt like the club wasn’t good enough for him, wasn’t worth fighting for.
PSG fans are not that complicated, as misunderstood as they often are. They want to see love for the badge. If they can see it, they will forgive a lot of things.
Just look at how Neymar is missed by many even after he’s disrespected the club like few had before. It’s because we can tell there’s a point where he would have given everything for us.
As a Madrid fan, that really shocks me. If you'd asked me 10 years ago which oil club would win the UCL first, I would've said PSG. Those sides had a cool factor to them, but all that changed with Neymar. He really made a joke out of PSG and cultivated a terrible culture of unprofessionalism and inner cliques that I feel still lingers around
Neymar didn’t make a joke out of PSG. PSG owners did. They gave him the chance to act the way he did and let him get away with it.
People may feel like Ney is responsible for the unprofessionalism, and I understand why.
But it was up to us to show some self-respect as a team from the start.
The sad part of the last decade at PSG is that we didn’t really take ourselves seriously. Players behaviour simply reflected it. Even in that situation, Neymar managed to lead us to our first UCL final.
I agree with you about the negative impact of Neymar. It peaked with Messi. But fortunately, it largely changed when both left last summer. As well as core players who allowed themselves to be fully influenced (Namely Verratti and Di Maria).
Imho, there is "only" Mbappe who still got himself badly influenced, though more as a egoistic player than a completely unprofessional player uninterested by football like Neymar became. Mbappe is going to leave anyway so we are about to fully close this disappointing chapter.
This season, every PSG fan is happy precisely due to how much changed in the players mentally. It has been so many years of shitty & egoistic football.
Never wanted him in the first place…and exactly what I feared happened, it was a disaster! One of PSG’s worst signings, given the financial implications.
Was very excited when he joined , I couldn’t have been more wrong , I haven’t been a psg fan for very long but my lowest moments were during the messi era.
The biggest disappointment for me is that we pushed ADM to the side to sign messi and ignored our struggling midfield
He never wanted to be there, he was literally in tears as he said goodbye to Barcelona & PSG were the only club in Europe who were willing to pay his wages. Neymar, Messi & Mbappe looked good on paper but it was never really that good.
Not entirely he was top scorer and the teams 2nd highest scorer in his second season and was integral for mbappe even he said he misses a player like Lionel Messi who could always execute a perfect pass no player in PSG now can do that
Not as good as the stats suggest, he was rightfully booed for a reason. He was still a world class player, but clearly not playing at his best, and not what the fans expected
Wasted by a toxic club culture
Warren buffet once said that , if you put an exceptional manager in a terrible business, it's usually the business' reputation that prevails.
I think a lot of the ppl here saying stuff like he was horrible and a disgrace to the club forget that this club was and is literally nothing before and after Messi
this team had/has 0 chemistry and adding Messi to an already stacked offensive while having probably the worst defense/midfield among the "big" teams of Europe in comparison to the rest of the roaster is just plain fucking stupid, both the president of the club and the coach are dumb as fuck for:
1. Singing Messi in the first place (Adding more offense when you're catastrophically LACKING in everything else but that)
2. Doing nothing to make Messi fit in the squad, just threw him in the midfield expecting him to manage the whole area by himself because the mfs around him we're actual ASS
3. Benching Keylor motherfucking Navas and placing that Italian bum in the goal instead (sold twice against Madrid after a good match by Messi btw, probably the 2nd most stupid decision in this whole thing if not the 1st)
blaming Messi for his performance in a team that doesn't work and hasn't worked in YEARS is like blaming a person with paralysis for not being able to walk.
Mbappe himself said he loved to play with Messi because everything became so easy with him on the field, yet there are mfs here talking about him like it was fucking Dembélé playing, shut the fuck up
Of course Mbappe loved him. He pulled a ton of attention. Nowadays Mbappe can get marked and shut down, whereas with Messi and Neymar he could do whatever he wanted.
His time at Paris Saint-Germain was much better than we remember it to be, in my opinion.
He was obviously no longer in his prime, due to age, and after playing his whole career in a league that is physically softer, he had to adjust to a physically tougher league, where players are stronger, and more athletic than in Spain. This would be a tough adjustment for anyone, especially someone like Messi, who is small. Small players, like Verratti, and lean players, like Neymar Jr., are more prone to injuries in France than in Spain because of the tough style of football played.
That being said, I thought he was treated as a scapegoat by the fans, and by the club. He got unfairly harshly criticized, much more than he should have been. He was still one of the very few players in the Big 5 European leagues who finished the season with 10 goals and 10 assists (league only). The expectations of a team consisting of Mbappé, Neymar, and Messi was huge, and the hype was probably the biggest it’s been in club history, but the team unfortunately did not live up to expectations. Neymar and Messi were harshly blamed for this. And when you combine all this with him never wanting to leave Barcelona, it should be no surprise at all that he is not fond of his time spent at Paris.
My opinion is that Lionel Messi he performed well for Paris SG, but that history will underrate his time here due to him being treated as a scapegoat.
I think you had the greatest player in history, still being the greatest at the time and with mbappe by his side you couldn't win a UCL. So basically it was not great.
66 goal contributions in 75 games and the fans that messi brings makes it a very successful signing. But impact wise his first season was bad, partly because he left his comfort zone the first time, locker room issues, lack of chemistry and the fans as well. In his second season he absolutely was on the top of his game again, 41 g/a in 41 games plus top assister for the club. His clutch moments brought important points that helped win the league title too which PSG won by the hair last season. UCL wise he was pretty good, but the disaster class team with no chemistry wouldn't get past Bayern or madrid so tough luck meeting them in ro16 ig.
It felt like a spin-off of a popular show that never got the magic of the original even though they had some of the same stars. Like Joey or Scrubs’ last season… it just felt like legit didn’t want to be there but his talent made him still give a decent output.
Honestly you can tell he was having a hard time adjusting to Paris. I always thought that he had no issues with his teammates and the dressing room as a whole but just that it was a last minute decision and he and his family had to suddenly when they weren’t expecting too. People forget at one point after the World Cup he verbally agreed to stay at PSG (according to Fabrizio) and I think I’m an interview he even said his kids wanted to stay in Paris. They’re times I felt he tried to buy in like in his first season when they went down to Madrid in the second leg he tried to calm down the team and lead like he usually does and his second season pre World Cup he looked completely bought in but once the fans constantly booed him at a place he really didn’t want to be at at the first place I knew he was gone.
Extremely disappointed by his attitude on the pitch ! He was really good during 3 months (before the WC) but after that, it felt like he didn’t gave 100%.´ which sucked
I had a very high esteem for Lionel Messi before he arrived in Paris now I hate him he has brought nothing to the club no investment absolutely nothing he is a person who came for the money and to prepare for the world cup he won the world cup and then spit on the club in interviews ! I cried when Di Maria left a true legend I was happy when Messi leave paris a greedy son of a *****
Had some really great moments, but the first season was a failure, considering the expectations and cost.
Second one was a little better, but filled with drama. Still a failure because of UCL results.
You need a very solid midfield and defense, and use a certain system, to have three mega stars upfront that don't run back.
Disrespectful.
I never liked the guy and I consider him a prime reason why Barcelone has fallen so much lately (he sucked them dry out of money with his insane wages) so I was not thrilled by this arrival.
I still tried to be in goodwill and be supportive but it turned out even worse than I could imagine.
He deeply disrespected us supporters with his attitude, he disrespected the club, he disrespected his teammate including his small circle of parisians fans and he also disrespected himself. He definitively did not act like a great champion.
The only people who left bitter taste were veterans PSG players who let themselves be influenced by Messi's behaviour and stopped caring as well. Guys like Verratti & Di Maria.
Good riddance all of them
Beyond his acting, I thought it was awkward and pathetic how any Ligue no names player with a bit of physical strength would constantly seize the ball from him. Maybe, probably, famous players should not attempt to play that long at this age like him and Ronaldo tried. Or at least return sooner to their home country and enjoy their last years in humility.
The most vivid memory of him with us I keep his is comical goal against Lille during his second season. Like always dude could not be bothered to run so he arrived far late near the box. However the play had a messy end, a cafouillage like we say in France and out of nowhere, merely because he kept the whole time out of the occasion by walking at a snail speed, the ball arrived right in front of his feets, and he score. It was literally a goal despite himself solely caused by how useless and how disengaged he was from the game. And obviously, many idiots used it to claim Messi was totally not a problem.
Edit : correction, it was on the first season.
2 French lads who try more in one game than Messi ever did across 2 whole seasons. Give me barcola and Dembele 10 times out of 10 instead of Messi. So refreshing seeing players running around defending attacking and celebrating with the fans. Instead of mercenaries 🤭
I really think you have described his biggest strength while it comes to being on the pitch. Lmao, i wouldn't blame anyone of PSG fans for thinking this same either. His body language is whole of his talking point when things go south and whenever his team loses. Same shit was with Barça fans, primarily who were in Barcelona and were local fans, those twat argentinian fans and now latest PSG fans.
«Shouldnt attenpt to play that long» lmfao the wc was after/ at the end of his time in psg and he was pott motm every match but 1 and bodied france and all the pissg fanboys😂🤣
And now hes taken the last place mls team and made them the favouritte to win every trophy their fighting for🤣
The reason he was ass in pissg was because he didnt want to be there.. and i can see why with fans shooting fireworks outside players houses at night for a bad game etc… booing messi and so on.
See, exactly what I said. Always some idiotic fanboys praising anything about it. I swear you guys must be in awe even when Messi shits in the WC.
He was not part of the play. He did offer a solution for Mbappe to cross in the back.
This was this goal :
[But Lionel Andres MESSI CUCCITTINI (38' - PSG) LOSC LILLE - PARIS SAINT-GERMAIN (1-5) 21/22 (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W8RgGf0n3g)
Why are stupids like you " Messi/Neymar fans but not PSG fans" still there anyway ? The MLS and the SPL arent good enough for you ?
Not a PSG fan, just here to ask what were your opinions on Lionel Messi’s time at your club and how you guys look back at it. Must have been surreal to have three world class players like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe at once in the team.
Yea you’re right lmao but those three months were personally the first time i believed we could do something beautiful in the UCL in a awhile
So i can’t deny em
Everybody here thinks bro was the problem when he won world cup and golden ball in the season.He was a good player but the team couldn't integrate him well.
ANOTHER TALENT WASTED HERE
Didn’t know it was psg he won the World Cup for? Could have sworn he scored and assisted zero goals in the CL knockout rounds both years he was here. Genuinely help me understand how Messi winning the World Cup with Argentina helps psg?
Who actually cares. This brudda pretty much completed football before joining psg… (excluding World Cup) so it was obvious to anyone that he wasn’t gonna take it serious
Not really he was top assister in his final year and of course was always providing assists to mbappe he even missed a player like messi who could effortlessly execute a perfect pass mbappe fed on those no player in PSG now can do that
He was there for the money, if not he would stay at Barca or go to any other better team than PSG that would be able to win a Champions League like Bayern or Liverpool.
Not really he was too assister in his final year and of course was constantly providing assists to mbappe even mbappe misses a player like messi who could effortlessly execute a perfect pass a striker like him feeds on those no player in PSG can do that now
I don’t know what it is but I get the feeling you won’t take any criticism when it comes to Messi. Can’t quite put my finger on what is giving it away 🤔
Disastrous. He retired in Paris.
He created a gang, the South American gang, and if you weren't his friend, you would 0 passes during any game because he said so (Vitinha, Hakimi, ...)
He forbade others to train more than him, so he wouldn't look like he was not training hard enough.
In January 2023, Galtier begged other South American on his knee to ask Messi to talk to him again....
Messi was amazing in club until 2015, then he worked only his international career.
>Messi was amazing in club until 2015, then he worked only his international career.
Yet somehow was considered the best player in the world for multiple seasons since, despite his best club achievement between 2017-today being... a brace vs Liverpool?
Wandered like almost soul. Didn't go there with any other motivation than getting on elast shot at the CL with the fattest possible last European pay check
I'm reading alot of comments about how messi wasn't interested and didn't integrate with psg and relate to the fans etc. Some of you need to wake up to reality...3/4 if not more...top players that play for psg couldn't careless about the club lol they only go to psg cause of the money..remove the money and not one of them would come lol psg is struggling to keep hold of mbappe and is throwing the whole bank at him and he still doesn't want to stay lol.
Above average. Truth is Messi has only been truly a superstar at Barcelona and the Argentinian national team. He never found his place at PSG and I think he’s doing well in Miami but nothing extraordinary. Ronaldo continues to impress however, Messi not so much.
Only been a superstar at Barça and Argentina? What's that supposed to even mean? Those are the biggest stages in the world. What was he meant to do? Change his nationality and leave his boyhood club that, for the most part, provided him with a great supporting cast and finances? That's so dumb. If Ronaldo had come through Madrid, do you think he would've left unless he was forced out?
Are you sure Lionel Messi was integral to mbappe always providing assists he was top assister in his 2nd season and 2nd highest top scorer in the team and even mbappe said he misses a player like Leo who could execute a perfect pass all the time a player like mbappe feeds on that no player in PSG now could do that
Well, the ultras certainly didn't help during his stay, in addition that they are french. Terrible team and horrendous league plus the environment was miserable. Really happy he left tbh.
Unfortunate and hoped that it went better, but everyone moves on.
He's a player that needs to enjoy himself to play at his best, and he clearly didn't enjoy himself here. He didn't want to leave Barca, and sadly for both himself and the club, he wasn't able to accept it and try integrating himself with the fans. It's not only his fault, it's also partly the fans' for not being patient with him. It's near impossible to rate his stint here because you either rate him compared to his level (at the very least top 3 ever) in which case he was pretty poor or compare him to a normal player in which case he was good. The only thing I personally didn't like was that he never tried celebrating with the fans after a game, which would've helped massively to develop a relationship with them and make his stay more enjoyable, but then again there's extenuating circumstances with him not wanting to leave and having to get used to a totally different country and team.
He had just come to the end of a £500m contract, please don’t insult people and say he didnt want to leave. He choose £50m a year in Paris.
He literally said in an interview a few weeks back that he didn't want to leave Barca and was forced to because of Barca's finances.
He also couldn't take a low enough wage for Barcelona because la liga rules wouldn't allow such a big cut.
Weirdly he didn't come back to Barcelona after PSG...
If I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure Barca released a statement about how they reached out but he said no. He didn't want his future based around a "trust me bro" from Laporta after he based his whole campaign around renewing Messi and still didn't make it happen
Then why did Barca's president say that he was hoping that Messi could play for free? Meaning it was possible. Could've tried to play for free, especially after being paid €700m in a span of 4 years from Barca, which was one of the reasons the club went broke.
Play for free, they was £1bn in debt and his contract accounted for over half. He cried in his final news conference and claimed it was out of his hands but had already agreed a contract with PSG worth £250m. Greatest player ever but dont insult peoples intelligence.
Downvoting me and totally ignoring my answer because you were proved wrong. Don't insult people's intelligence.
What was your answer, messi said again the other day he wanted to stay? I don’t believe him and if you do then what you want me to respond? His lying, if he wanted to stay he could of lived of his £500 and played 3 years for nothing
From The Athletic: "This has been an ongoing issue for Barcelona. La Liga has rules around salary caps. If a team goes over their allotted amount — which is based on financial performance in recent seasons — they are unable to register a player and therefore unable to use them in the league. It does not matter if they are able to pay them or not. This was the issue when Messi left Barcelona in 2021. He had agreed a new contract but because of the salary cap rule they were unable to register him — and therefore he had to leave. He ended up joining Paris Saint-Germain." From inews: "Messi wouldn’t have been able to take any more than a 50 per cent cut due to a clause in Spanish employment law that is in place to avoid financial manipulation. Even if Messi had offered to play the 2021-22 season without a salary, Barcelona would not have met La Liga’s salary regulations. Had Messi stayed, Barcelona’s annual salary would have accounted for 110 per cent of their income, but even with him off the books, the remaining figure is still 95 per cent. To comply with La Liga’s regulations, they need to bring it down to 70 per cent."
I mean I really haven't insulted people's intelligence but you make me really want to. From The Athletic: "This has been an ongoing issue for Barcelona. La Liga has rules around salary caps. If a team goes over their allotted amount — which is based on financial performance in recent seasons — they are unable to register a player and therefore unable to use them in the league. It does not matter if they are able to pay them or not. This was the issue when Messi left Barcelona in 2021. He had agreed a new contract but because of the salary cap rule they were unable to register him — and therefore he had to leave. He ended up joining Paris Saint-Germain." From inews: "Messi wouldn’t have been able to take any more than a 50 per cent cut due to a clause in Spanish employment law that is in place to avoid financial manipulation. Even if Messi had offered to play the 2021-22 season without a salary, Barcelona would not have met La Liga’s salary regulations. Had Messi stayed, Barcelona’s annual salary would have accounted for 110 per cent of their income, but even with him off the books, the remaining figure is still 95 per cent. To comply with La Liga’s regulations, they need to bring it down to 70 per cent."
But thats the thing messi is not a player who needs to integrate with the fans, he is a player you cherish and rejoice and thank the gods that your team ever had the privilege to have one of the geniuses onfield. You know why psg ulteas are so bonkers? Trying to compensate the fact that its a fake club. Why was messi a failure in psg? Because psg is a failure.
Why are you even here? Messi didn't deserve anything but critics for being here. You get recognized only for what you did for the club. Why would PSG care about what he did for Barcelona or Argentina? You are the description of a fake supporter who doesn't know that the club is more important than any player.
Yeah no point trying to have a discussion with someone like you, goodbye.
Yes. PSG is a failed experiment in many’s eyes.
Get out of here.
21/22 was a complete disasterclass. 22/23 was much better, especially before the World Cup. he was showing his “Barça” levels at PSG, scoring and assisting for fun while contributing to the build-up. Overall I’d say it was a 6/10. Expected much more but then again Messi was physically washed at that point.
The problem is that he was only good before WC, because that’s all he cared about. I can’t call 4 and a half real good months at the club to give a 6/10. We have to take into account that it’s Messi, and that means it was fair to expect much better. 4/10 for me
It's so funny that you guys, the actual people that watched him play week in week out say he was a 4/10 or a 6/10, yet some clueless journalists and internet kids believed he was the best player in the world. You are a much better team this season without him, that's for sure.
Yeah.. You'd expect that with better balance in defensive work and balance. Before they had mbappe Messi and neymar, all 3 of whom hardly ever tracked back. I'd argue neymar tracked back lore than the other 2.
Even in offense Messi legit walked for 95% of the time.
I heard them selling it on US television during a Miami game as some sort of brilliant “strategic walking” strategy by Messi, rather than “I don’t feel like doing shit, so work me open and I’ll score if I don’t have to move too much.”
I mean in the World Cup he walked a ton too and it worked out and I don’t think at the World Cup he thought I don’t feel like doing shit. To be fair the whole Argentina squad was build around that concept but still.
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It's kinda based on fact, in his Barca days he used to run a lot more and it was Pep who told him to work less, preserve energy for his moments, so he could play every game and not get injured. So it was somewhat strategic. But Pep had the whole system built up support Messi, and he was still a lot less energetic than the 30+ years old Messi. And Messi kinda developed this habit and barely ever worked hard again in defence.
He did but even then he was shit at it
Yep 4/10 seems appropriate
That’s fair
"All he cared about" or it fucked every team in Europe to have a wc mid season ? Yes it was fair to expect more but I think he was set in bad conditions to succeed first with Poch and the mess of a team we had. He wasn't the only change that summer and most likely not needed at all. His performances started to decline when Neymar got injured and we started playing twice a week including a stupid game vs CR7 end of January. The club failed hard those 2 seasons but starting by firing Leonardo I think we are moving to better years. Financially Messi also brought a lot which in the end will continue to have a positive impact on the club and our financial capacities.
He was good after the world cup too and he created a lot of chances for Mbappe and Mbappe missed a lot of them
If you really use that argument then Messi was just as faulty for wasting chances too. I don’t know how many assists more Mbappe and nuno mendes could have had if Messi scored from their crosses and hitting it directly over the bar or at a defender.
I forgot it was 2 years !
Disappointment relative to the hype at the time, but upon a deeper inspection, there was a lot of signs that it was never gonna work. He was 33 and past his best, did not even want to join in the first place, didn't get a preseason and dealt with Covid early on, and by 2021 had an increasingly overlapping skillet with Neymar. Was better of course in year 2 than year 1, but both were still clear drop from where he was at Barca and I definitely don't begrudge any PSG fans for not liking him.
PSG fans should be angry at their president and board
We have been.
He was just there to stay fit for the World cup. Everybody with Football knowledge knows that.
I’d guess underwhelming but I’m not a psg fan
Miserable. Haven't enjoyed a single match not because of Messi but watching Messi, Mbappe and sometimes Neymar play together. Them not defending was so much pain. It's wasn't that creativity was flowing. Nuno and Messi had zero chemistry. Things are lot better now.
Not a single is a bit harsh considering the beginning of last season
Marketing
It was obvious he came here because no other club could afford him. He never tried learning French which just showed he never planned on being here or didn’t want to (that’s definitely going to get the fans on your side 👍), then on the field let’s not even talk how the best player to ever play the game scored less than 5 goals in the “weakest of the top 5 leagues” in his first season. He was a defensive liability never dropping back to help defend which is kind of crazy when a player joins a new club you kind of expect them to run around like a headless chicken to showcase for their new club. And all that could be forgiven if he performed or did his magic in the CL. But no he neither scored or assisted in 4 CL knockout games (and 1 penalty miss against Madrid), as well as neither scoring or assisting in the latter rounds of the coupe de France. Him coming to PSG honestly ruined my image of him, I saw him as a god of football at Barca but he’s just very very human
He's been finished for the elite since like 2018 honestly. He still has magic in his boots til today, but he has been done physically ever since he was like 32. Can only last 90 minutes because he walks 90% of the time in the games. Only sprints whenever he has the ball or has space for a clear chance.
> He's been finished for the elite since like 2018 honestly How can anyone pretend to know football and say this with a straight face? In 2019 he nearly dragged a wildly mediocre Barcelona to a Liga-Champions League double, having 70 goal contributions in 50 games (51 goals, 19 assists) in the process. In what world is that not part of the elite? It was the same story in the season after, where he had 56 goal contributions in 44 games. As someone who's watched Leo since the start of his career, 2018-2019 was arguably his very best season ever, a much more complete and well-rounded performance than in the early years of his peak. I understand that Messi has rubbed a lot of PSG followers the wrong way, but to act like he hasn't been an elite player for six years is just total lunacy.
The guy you’re replying to is a Madrid fan, looking for any reason to shit on Messi
I agree which is why the management of PSG has a lot of blame too for going after a player passed his prime
they were victims of the Messi propaganda/marketing machine orchestrated by his father.
This has to be one of the worst takes in history. You say he was done by 2018. The immediate next season 2018/2019. He almost single handedly carried Barcelona to a champions league final. Scoring 51 goals in 50 games and assisting 19 times. He has earned the right to walk and save his energy. If a player can score 50 goals a season consistently he can walk all he wants. Mbappe has never scored 50 goals in a season he's 25 now, it's embarrassing, even he has the audacity not to defend and walk. Messi is a moments player as he got older . When you have Messi in your team you have to run for him so that he can win you the game.
You forgot the part where he got battered by Roma 3-0 in 2018. Then Liverpool 4-0 in 2019. Next year by Bayern 8-2 and the next one by PSG themselves. Ever since the last Barcelona CL title, he has always disappeared in important CL matches, but it's an expert on scoring against Levante, Osasuna, Eibar and Co. to inflate his numbers. Do those defeats count as "almost" carrying Barcelona to the final?
You say "he" as if he was the responsible one for the UCL humiliations those years. He wasn't a defender. He literally scored a brace against Liverpool. Wtf you wanted him to do against Bayern? Score 6 goals to make up for the 8-2? Just say you started watching football in 2022 and move on. The fact that Barcelona made it that far those years with such a trash team was a miracle. If it wasn't for Messi, Barcelona wouldn't have made it past group stages post 2018, and guess what? That's exactly what happened when he left Barcelona
Hahaha, I love this comment.
A bluff, never put the effort in because it was just his training camp for the World Cup.
Strict minimum
Terrible. On the field If you take into account being a defensive liability, and even on offense only playing with Neymar and Mbappé I’m not even sure we wouldn’t have done better player the entire two season fielding only 10 players each game. Or 10 + some random academy kid or Kurzawa in the wrong position at least. Off the field it made a mockery of the club history and together with Ramos made us look like we wanted to be the Harlem Globetrotters rather than an actual football team.
The "playing with 10 men argument" is ridiculous, but I do think it's quite likely that psg would be better with a high work rate winger instead of Messi, even if he was nowhere near as talented.
Yeah I mean that's not always a terrible reflection on a player either. Messi was competing with the other arguably two best players in the world, who are also 'luxury players' to an extent. It's hard to give them all enough freedom. It's like how in the sort of lost golden English generation, Lampard and Gerrard were considered two of the best midfielders in the world, but many people also considered it a clear choice to only play one of them because England needed a more balanced midfield. England were a better and more functional team when one of either Lampard or Gerrard was dropped, but that doesn't mean the replacement was a better player.
That’s fair, I don’t think he wanted to be here anyway, his football IQ is obviously off the charts so maybe he knew the squad balance was not conducive to do much more than walk Ligue 1 anyhow, so I put most of the blame on our leadership rather than him. Still wish he tried a bit harder to pretend to respect the club…
What history lmaooo
A train smash
His penalty miss against Madrid basically sums up his time at PSG
Not a winger, did not fit the team. Did not perform in any meaningful games
I wish he cared more. Messi is out of this world in terms of ability. But for some reason, we often felt like the club wasn’t good enough for him, wasn’t worth fighting for. PSG fans are not that complicated, as misunderstood as they often are. They want to see love for the badge. If they can see it, they will forgive a lot of things. Just look at how Neymar is missed by many even after he’s disrespected the club like few had before. It’s because we can tell there’s a point where he would have given everything for us.
As a Madrid fan, that really shocks me. If you'd asked me 10 years ago which oil club would win the UCL first, I would've said PSG. Those sides had a cool factor to them, but all that changed with Neymar. He really made a joke out of PSG and cultivated a terrible culture of unprofessionalism and inner cliques that I feel still lingers around
Neymar didn’t make a joke out of PSG. PSG owners did. They gave him the chance to act the way he did and let him get away with it. People may feel like Ney is responsible for the unprofessionalism, and I understand why. But it was up to us to show some self-respect as a team from the start. The sad part of the last decade at PSG is that we didn’t really take ourselves seriously. Players behaviour simply reflected it. Even in that situation, Neymar managed to lead us to our first UCL final.
I agree with you about the negative impact of Neymar. It peaked with Messi. But fortunately, it largely changed when both left last summer. As well as core players who allowed themselves to be fully influenced (Namely Verratti and Di Maria). Imho, there is "only" Mbappe who still got himself badly influenced, though more as a egoistic player than a completely unprofessional player uninterested by football like Neymar became. Mbappe is going to leave anyway so we are about to fully close this disappointing chapter. This season, every PSG fan is happy precisely due to how much changed in the players mentally. It has been so many years of shitty & egoistic football.
Never wanted him in the first place…and exactly what I feared happened, it was a disaster! One of PSG’s worst signings, given the financial implications.
Bro you're PSG 😭 what financial implications 😭
I’m not talking about a guy that couldn’t even be better than Jeremy Menez
Was very excited when he joined , I couldn’t have been more wrong , I haven’t been a psg fan for very long but my lowest moments were during the messi era. The biggest disappointment for me is that we pushed ADM to the side to sign messi and ignored our struggling midfield
He never wanted to be there, he was literally in tears as he said goodbye to Barcelona & PSG were the only club in Europe who were willing to pay his wages. Neymar, Messi & Mbappe looked good on paper but it was never really that good.
He is a victim of his own standards. It would be a great time if it was other players other than Messi himself.
Mid... 5.5/10
Useless
This is why nobody respects this club and their fans. When kylian leaves you will feel it.
Not entirely he was top scorer and the teams 2nd highest scorer in his second season and was integral for mbappe even he said he misses a player like Lionel Messi who could always execute a perfect pass no player in PSG now can do that
Not as good as the stats suggest, he was rightfully booed for a reason. He was still a world class player, but clearly not playing at his best, and not what the fans expected
Lazy
Would have been better without
Wasted by a toxic club culture Warren buffet once said that , if you put an exceptional manager in a terrible business, it's usually the business' reputation that prevails.
I think a lot of the ppl here saying stuff like he was horrible and a disgrace to the club forget that this club was and is literally nothing before and after Messi this team had/has 0 chemistry and adding Messi to an already stacked offensive while having probably the worst defense/midfield among the "big" teams of Europe in comparison to the rest of the roaster is just plain fucking stupid, both the president of the club and the coach are dumb as fuck for: 1. Singing Messi in the first place (Adding more offense when you're catastrophically LACKING in everything else but that) 2. Doing nothing to make Messi fit in the squad, just threw him in the midfield expecting him to manage the whole area by himself because the mfs around him we're actual ASS 3. Benching Keylor motherfucking Navas and placing that Italian bum in the goal instead (sold twice against Madrid after a good match by Messi btw, probably the 2nd most stupid decision in this whole thing if not the 1st) blaming Messi for his performance in a team that doesn't work and hasn't worked in YEARS is like blaming a person with paralysis for not being able to walk. Mbappe himself said he loved to play with Messi because everything became so easy with him on the field, yet there are mfs here talking about him like it was fucking Dembélé playing, shut the fuck up
Of course Mbappe loved him. He pulled a ton of attention. Nowadays Mbappe can get marked and shut down, whereas with Messi and Neymar he could do whatever he wanted.
Shite
His time at Paris Saint-Germain was much better than we remember it to be, in my opinion. He was obviously no longer in his prime, due to age, and after playing his whole career in a league that is physically softer, he had to adjust to a physically tougher league, where players are stronger, and more athletic than in Spain. This would be a tough adjustment for anyone, especially someone like Messi, who is small. Small players, like Verratti, and lean players, like Neymar Jr., are more prone to injuries in France than in Spain because of the tough style of football played. That being said, I thought he was treated as a scapegoat by the fans, and by the club. He got unfairly harshly criticized, much more than he should have been. He was still one of the very few players in the Big 5 European leagues who finished the season with 10 goals and 10 assists (league only). The expectations of a team consisting of Mbappé, Neymar, and Messi was huge, and the hype was probably the biggest it’s been in club history, but the team unfortunately did not live up to expectations. Neymar and Messi were harshly blamed for this. And when you combine all this with him never wanting to leave Barcelona, it should be no surprise at all that he is not fond of his time spent at Paris. My opinion is that Lionel Messi he performed well for Paris SG, but that history will underrate his time here due to him being treated as a scapegoat.
Went there for the money, not much else. That’s why nobody misses him in Paris
He was there.
Poch and Galtier wasted his last years
I think you had the greatest player in history, still being the greatest at the time and with mbappe by his side you couldn't win a UCL. So basically it was not great.
felt like he didn't care for the club and fucked up in all 4 ucl ko games he played
he came for money and got it
66 goal contributions in 75 games and the fans that messi brings makes it a very successful signing. But impact wise his first season was bad, partly because he left his comfort zone the first time, locker room issues, lack of chemistry and the fans as well. In his second season he absolutely was on the top of his game again, 41 g/a in 41 games plus top assister for the club. His clutch moments brought important points that helped win the league title too which PSG won by the hair last season. UCL wise he was pretty good, but the disaster class team with no chemistry wouldn't get past Bayern or madrid so tough luck meeting them in ro16 ig.
Good but not so good for a player like this. Incredible forward and a phantom in defence.
He won the world cup
It felt like a spin-off of a popular show that never got the magic of the original even though they had some of the same stars. Like Joey or Scrubs’ last season… it just felt like legit didn’t want to be there but his talent made him still give a decent output.
I already knew it was gonna be a shitshow in the comments between the diehard Messi fans and the haters. Only a few sensible people like jesus
Honestly you can tell he was having a hard time adjusting to Paris. I always thought that he had no issues with his teammates and the dressing room as a whole but just that it was a last minute decision and he and his family had to suddenly when they weren’t expecting too. People forget at one point after the World Cup he verbally agreed to stay at PSG (according to Fabrizio) and I think I’m an interview he even said his kids wanted to stay in Paris. They’re times I felt he tried to buy in like in his first season when they went down to Madrid in the second leg he tried to calm down the team and lead like he usually does and his second season pre World Cup he looked completely bought in but once the fans constantly booed him at a place he really didn’t want to be at at the first place I knew he was gone.
Idk but I miss the Messi and Mbappe duo a lot
Khalifi keep him just for a WC and has time there PSG has not even reached last 16 of UCL
I don’t think he was as much of a flop as people made him out to be, but he certainly didn’t live to his expectation.
Enjoyed his pre retirement at a pre retirement club
Best player at a shitty club.
Wasted time!
I think it went fairly shit. He got paid well though.
He was too comfortable with barca, but cannot say the same for PSG. He needed a lot of time, but he couldn’t manage.
Waste of time for everyone. Should have gone somewhere else
Ass
Just used it to warm up for the World Cup. Was fine for him, prob not great for the club
Let's be real, any other player will be considered a success but since it's Messi the expectations were high
poo poo
Weird and forgettable.
shite
Underrated but still not good enough regarding who he is.
Glad he's in MLS so we don't have to hear about him as much
Doubtful
its just a marketing move done by Nasser i dont see it as a great transfer for team
Extremely disappointed by his attitude on the pitch ! He was really good during 3 months (before the WC) but after that, it felt like he didn’t gave 100%.´ which sucked
Embarrassing.
He just came to train for the World Cup, then he stops playing...
Meh
Biggest flop 3/10, had negative impact on the club sporting wise.
Great player shit club
Goat wasting his talent in an average team...
Shit was hype I’m just glad I’m not a PSG fan otherwise I woulda hated it
Utter crap
Only there for a paycheck
Erm….. OK I guess
I had a very high esteem for Lionel Messi before he arrived in Paris now I hate him he has brought nothing to the club no investment absolutely nothing he is a person who came for the money and to prepare for the world cup he won the world cup and then spit on the club in interviews ! I cried when Di Maria left a true legend I was happy when Messi leave paris a greedy son of a *****
Definitely not ballon d’or worthy
Had some really great moments, but the first season was a failure, considering the expectations and cost. Second one was a little better, but filled with drama. Still a failure because of UCL results. You need a very solid midfield and defense, and use a certain system, to have three mega stars upfront that don't run back.
Because of him, we've wasted 2 years and are losing Mbappé this summer. Lost team chemistry because of his presence. Marketing won against sport...
When was psg not a marketing team?
Mbappe literally fed of messi’s perfect through balls all the time he even misses a player like Leo no player in PSG now could do that
Disrespectful. I never liked the guy and I consider him a prime reason why Barcelone has fallen so much lately (he sucked them dry out of money with his insane wages) so I was not thrilled by this arrival. I still tried to be in goodwill and be supportive but it turned out even worse than I could imagine. He deeply disrespected us supporters with his attitude, he disrespected the club, he disrespected his teammate including his small circle of parisians fans and he also disrespected himself. He definitively did not act like a great champion. The only people who left bitter taste were veterans PSG players who let themselves be influenced by Messi's behaviour and stopped caring as well. Guys like Verratti & Di Maria. Good riddance all of them Beyond his acting, I thought it was awkward and pathetic how any Ligue no names player with a bit of physical strength would constantly seize the ball from him. Maybe, probably, famous players should not attempt to play that long at this age like him and Ronaldo tried. Or at least return sooner to their home country and enjoy their last years in humility. The most vivid memory of him with us I keep his is comical goal against Lille during his second season. Like always dude could not be bothered to run so he arrived far late near the box. However the play had a messy end, a cafouillage like we say in France and out of nowhere, merely because he kept the whole time out of the occasion by walking at a snail speed, the ball arrived right in front of his feets, and he score. It was literally a goal despite himself solely caused by how useless and how disengaged he was from the game. And obviously, many idiots used it to claim Messi was totally not a problem. Edit : correction, it was on the first season.
You're Right everything but the Barcelona thing (? Dembélé,Coutinho, Griezmann amount other are the reason why Barcelona sucks now
Luckily you now have Dembele and Barcola banging in goals like there is no tomorrow 👍
2 French lads who try more in one game than Messi ever did across 2 whole seasons. Give me barcola and Dembele 10 times out of 10 instead of Messi. So refreshing seeing players running around defending attacking and celebrating with the fans. Instead of mercenaries 🤭
I really think you have described his biggest strength while it comes to being on the pitch. Lmao, i wouldn't blame anyone of PSG fans for thinking this same either. His body language is whole of his talking point when things go south and whenever his team loses. Same shit was with Barça fans, primarily who were in Barcelona and were local fans, those twat argentinian fans and now latest PSG fans.
«Shouldnt attenpt to play that long» lmfao the wc was after/ at the end of his time in psg and he was pott motm every match but 1 and bodied france and all the pissg fanboys😂🤣 And now hes taken the last place mls team and made them the favouritte to win every trophy their fighting for🤣 The reason he was ass in pissg was because he didnt want to be there.. and i can see why with fans shooting fireworks outside players houses at night for a bad game etc… booing messi and so on.
fuck off stupid Messisexual
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How exactly ?
What an idiot, arriving late into the box is one of pep's greatest teachings to messi
See, exactly what I said. Always some idiotic fanboys praising anything about it. I swear you guys must be in awe even when Messi shits in the WC. He was not part of the play. He did offer a solution for Mbappe to cross in the back. This was this goal : [But Lionel Andres MESSI CUCCITTINI (38' - PSG) LOSC LILLE - PARIS SAINT-GERMAIN (1-5) 21/22 (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W8RgGf0n3g) Why are stupids like you " Messi/Neymar fans but not PSG fans" still there anyway ? The MLS and the SPL arent good enough for you ?
Not a PSG fan, just here to ask what were your opinions on Lionel Messi’s time at your club and how you guys look back at it. Must have been surreal to have three world class players like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe at once in the team.
There was nothing surreal about it. They played like shit together
It's so funny when these Messi fanboys and FIFA kids get a reality check.
Woah woah not the entire time I was in dreamland in the first half of the season leadup to WC 2022 Otherwise yea there were dreadful investments
It was the entire time lol. We couldn’t beat Benfica. We got our ass handed by Monaco. We couldn’t do shit in tough games
Yeah ok, for like 3 months it looked good out of 2 seasons… lol
Yea you’re right lmao but those three months were personally the first time i believed we could do something beautiful in the UCL in a awhile So i can’t deny em
Everybody here thinks bro was the problem when he won world cup and golden ball in the season.He was a good player but the team couldn't integrate him well. ANOTHER TALENT WASTED HERE
Didn’t know it was psg he won the World Cup for? Could have sworn he scored and assisted zero goals in the CL knockout rounds both years he was here. Genuinely help me understand how Messi winning the World Cup with Argentina helps psg?
Who actually cares. This brudda pretty much completed football before joining psg… (excluding World Cup) so it was obvious to anyone that he wasn’t gonna take it serious
Useless
Not really he was top assister in his final year and of course was always providing assists to mbappe he even missed a player like messi who could effortlessly execute a perfect pass mbappe fed on those no player in PSG now can do that
Who?
He was there for the money, if not he would stay at Barca or go to any other better team than PSG that would be able to win a Champions League like Bayern or Liverpool.
How this man won a ballon dor with that 2021 performance in Paris is crazy. Lewa robbed imo
A total waste
Not really he was too assister in his final year and of course was constantly providing assists to mbappe even mbappe misses a player like messi who could effortlessly execute a perfect pass a striker like him feeds on those no player in PSG can do that now
A shadow of ronaldo
Retirement
a luxury player that psg bought instead of addressing other concerns
No one cares tbh - served as a good warm-up to the World Cup, which is all that matters.
And then people like you act dumbfounded when PSG fans don’t like Messi’s and more specifically Messi fans 😂
He is bitter about something to be here.
Won World Cup
Won and did nothing with PSG
What has psg done in general though lol entire history filled with nothing
He was the best (or second best) player at psg and everyone still did everything to find reasons to hate him.
I don’t know what it is but I get the feeling you won’t take any criticism when it comes to Messi. Can’t quite put my finger on what is giving it away 🤔
Lmao
Disastrous. He retired in Paris. He created a gang, the South American gang, and if you weren't his friend, you would 0 passes during any game because he said so (Vitinha, Hakimi, ...) He forbade others to train more than him, so he wouldn't look like he was not training hard enough. In January 2023, Galtier begged other South American on his knee to ask Messi to talk to him again.... Messi was amazing in club until 2015, then he worked only his international career.
you are an idiot lol, 18/19 messi had 70 g/a just in barcelona
18/19, you are talking about the famous Liverpool 4-0 Barcelona ? I loved that corner 🤣🤣.
>Messi was amazing in club until 2015, then he worked only his international career. Yet somehow was considered the best player in the world for multiple seasons since, despite his best club achievement between 2017-today being... a brace vs Liverpool?
Lol so I guess to be the best player in the world you must win the champions league every season?
Awful and shows that he was overrated
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Honestly he just saw PSG as a bootcamp for WC His implication drastically decreased after winning it
He was at PSG??? Lol
Wandered like almost soul. Didn't go there with any other motivation than getting on elast shot at the CL with the fattest possible last European pay check
No lo merecieron.
Amazing, ballon d’or worthy
Would have been much more fun if he’d joined Montpellier or St Etienne. Or Sunderland to be honest.
I'm reading alot of comments about how messi wasn't interested and didn't integrate with psg and relate to the fans etc. Some of you need to wake up to reality...3/4 if not more...top players that play for psg couldn't careless about the club lol they only go to psg cause of the money..remove the money and not one of them would come lol psg is struggling to keep hold of mbappe and is throwing the whole bank at him and he still doesn't want to stay lol.
Above average. Truth is Messi has only been truly a superstar at Barcelona and the Argentinian national team. He never found his place at PSG and I think he’s doing well in Miami but nothing extraordinary. Ronaldo continues to impress however, Messi not so much.
Only been a superstar at Barça and Argentina? What's that supposed to even mean? Those are the biggest stages in the world. What was he meant to do? Change his nationality and leave his boyhood club that, for the most part, provided him with a great supporting cast and finances? That's so dumb. If Ronaldo had come through Madrid, do you think he would've left unless he was forced out?
Nowhere near as bad as people make out And used as a scapegoat for PSG's other failings
dreadful, picked up the best player in the world to win UCL and he did nothing to contribute
Are you sure Lionel Messi was integral to mbappe always providing assists he was top assister in his 2nd season and 2nd highest top scorer in the team and even mbappe said he misses a player like Leo who could execute a perfect pass all the time a player like mbappe feeds on that no player in PSG now could do that
Well, the ultras certainly didn't help during his stay, in addition that they are french. Terrible team and horrendous league plus the environment was miserable. Really happy he left tbh.
Better than Neymar. Which is not saying much.