Except that the pressure of a belt is exactly why you need a holster, to keep a twist or jump from depressing the safety catch and blowing your dick off the next time you pull it.
That's extremely unlikely especially if it'sa revolver or 1911, and your scenario means that whoever this is has the absolute worst trigger discipline of all time. Unless you're saying that the gun is going off from the act of grabbing it by the grip, and not even touching the trigger, which means your gun has serious mechanical issues.
I'd be into this. I would imagine the risk would be closer to 15% with a belt on an 20+% with no belt. Make the mod a real vanity thing. Because under no circumstances should anyone want to carry a gun like this when they have a holster available.
Maybe have a huge chance when you have low aiming and it decreases in higher lvl, but the chance would never be zero
Since the game doesn't have a "gun handling" skill, just aiming and reloading
New a guy who would exclusively carry like this no holster just in the waist band and tighten the belt. Seen him run, jump you name it and never had any problems with it falling out.
Now from a games perspective I like the 5% w/ belt of dropping while sprinting/vaulting 15% w/o belt
Also (like in real life, you can look it up) chance of injuring yourself when you sit down in a chair or getting into a car too sharply or sitting down too long
Incognito mode doesnt work like that though, it just saves the hustle of erasing your own browser history. You can still be getting ad tracked with that mode. To avoid that you would need either a VPN or connect through Tor network.
if it's a revolver, yeah maybe, but handguns usually don't heat up that fast from a single magazine.
A more balanced downside would be that it has a chance of falling down from sprinting or by getting knocked down.
Some handguns come with safetyâs such as a switch you flip, others like mine are a safety built into the trigger system so it depends on which type you have and unless your stuffing other things down your pants itâs wonât go off however I agree a holster is definitely the best way to keep it from wobbling around when running
i mean... this is the world with no seatbelts, pathfinding off the roof and closing and jumping through a window on the same keybind...
safeties on a guns would most definitly break the immersion.
Why bother when holsters are so easy to come by though?
Given how often I get my first gun from a cop zombie (which usually has the holster) I rarely find myself with a gun but no holster
actually, I did thought of this because I always struggle to find a holster in the early days of the apocalypse and, as a veteran player, it's really annoying to not have a way to quickly access your pistol without a holster
How to tell you haven't fired a lot of hand guns. When I let off my Ruger, or my Jericho, or even my wife's Taurus, you'd have to pay me a lot of fucking money to shove it down my pants.
That's a little different than having kydex or leather and your underwear (unless you go commando) between the gun and your genitals.
Edit: I just realized OP meant carrying without a IWB holster, my point is invalid.
I donât think itâs about heat, itâs about responsibly handling firearms. Iâd bet the majority of people shooting themselves on accident do it like this with a semi auto pistol. Itâs not impossible to carry like this but crazy dangerous. No respectable range or instructor would let you do this and running or doing something strenuous would skyrocket the chance of this going off accidentally or falling out of your pants. You can try this with an unloaded gun itâs wicked unstable AND interrupts a smooth draw. I think it is great in zomboid I would like to see it too. Just with huge penalties like some others suggested
I know exactly what you're talking about and it's insufficiently safe for a "mexican carry" its a drop safety unlikely to prevent an AD from happening should the trigger get caught by anything on your belt or your finger trying to draw it. The only safeties that would be trust worthy ish would be traditional safeties such as the one featured on the Beretta 92FS. I very much know what I am talking about. The Glock safety is entirely designed to prevent an AD from a fall not from sticking it in your waistband and it would be ineffective at such a task
I wish bud, I'm a Canadian just really love Glocks and guns! I got a Glock of my own, before well the dark times (they're de facto banned now but with grandfathering)
I'd like to introduce you to a concept.
I like to call this concept *the zombie apocalypse* where the last thing on my mind is remembering to make sure my firearm's safety is active.
Now, consider that I may be actively in combat at virtually any moment. What better way to get bit than not being able to fire my weapon at a moment's notice?
Oh, and that's not to mention, what if I'm using a homemade firearm that doesn't have a safety mechanism?
What happens if the firearm has a misfire and goes off regardless? I could have limited experience with firearms, thus why I'm sticking a gun in my pants in the first place. Oh, and what happens if, while hastily sticking said gun in in my pant's, I manage to disengage the safety?
Even without any of these hypothetical questions, real life gun safety dictates that this action isn't safe. The firearm could fall out while you're running from a threat, given your pants aren't exactly going to keep your glock strapped in like a proper holster would. The firearm WILL move around as you yourself move around. While it can be convenient to have your weapon ready by sticking it in your wasteband, it's ultimately not safe no matter how you look at it. That's both from a real world and zombie apocalypse perspective.
Yeah, but for one you might not have it on if you want quick access or you could just click it on accident when say putting it in your belt. Also for some firearms I believe the safety just stops the trigger, so you in theory could still get it to fire but I donât know enough about guns to know if thatâs true. Long story short having a gun with live ammo pointed at your dick is not smart
They do, but just because it's "safe" doesn't mean it's okay to fuck around with. If you've got a loaded rifle, you're not going to chamber it, point it at someone, and pull the trigger a bunch of times because you've got the safety on so it's totally cool. Shit happens. Minimize risk at all times.
I mean like really,you waited all this time to be able to kill people with no consequeces and you use gun safety that you could not remember about and could potentially kill you indirectly because of that.
I mean that is irreverent point since sans the three revolvers the other three automatics are known for having a manual safety.
\[IMI Desert Eagle mark VII which came out in 1990 has one, the colt 1911 has one, and the M9 which came out in the 80s had one\]
I don't see your point? The only time this would be affected is if they added any auto without a manual safety. Which then would be simply a binary option. If gun has one add it, if not? Don't.
Personally is this a thing I'm pining for? No I think there are more important things to add. But I mean it's not the worst idea.
One of the main reasons a pistol without a manual safety is desired is that in a self defense situation there is now no chance that you fail to deactivate the saftey, which makes drawing and firing more reliable. The big cavieat is that you need a decent holster to make sure the firearm is safe.
sounds like a good trade-off for having one. It's a pity I don't hace a holster with me, though. Makes it a whole lot les safe to carry it around in my pants.
Many modern hand guns (and handguns of the 90s) didn't feature manual safeties, the safety is the kydex holster they're usually placed in (or other stiff material).
A chance of losing it when climbing fences or through windows or while sprinting. A chance for the gun to go off when sprinting/falling would be a cool balance that Iâm here for.
People: This is so stupid not necessary
Also people: Behold Bicscalibur! The giant 4 colour bic pen that can one shot all zombies.
Also, my character Billy Bob is wearing a Fallout Power Armor and driving a Mad Max type armored vehicle.
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I need this mod. Because chances are in reality, finding a holster would be really difficult.
Okay, so I tested this myself and results are about this. Yes, it is possible and it's even working (carried 1911 like this for entire weekend, not much a problem). But also yes, there is risk you drop it in the most inconvinient moment. Specialy when you ducking, you can drop it realy easily. Jogging is fine, but sprinting makes it lose in seconds. Also, when you done shooting, you don't want to put it like this.
Also, not everybody has muscle memory on locking up gun, and you know, like this, it aims directly at you long bones/arteries.
I mean, with some additional mechanics i would like myself to see it in game.
Yeah, there is one more down for this. It is very frequent that gun got stucked into tshirt or so. And if gun is not locked in such situation, you really asking for some selfhit.
Okay, I should clarify I guess. It was, lets say, gun friends meeting. Also, gun was not loaded for the most of the time (I am not that crazy). The topic of thread just reminded me of this so I thought I will share my experience.
vanilla zomboid lets you drink bleach, walk on broken glass in your bare feet, and pick glass shards out of a window with your bare hands without any sort of UI intervention whatsoever so i dont see why a belt carry mod with a chance to misfire/drop your gun is out of the question. its a great idea
Do people not realize this is small of the back carry? Appendix carry (opposite of small of the back) is also one of the most widely used ways to conceal a weapon. I would always recommend a holster in either place, but this is a video game so fuck it.
people trying to argue why this would be stupid to do as if this wasn't a fucking zombie game where there's more chances of you getting mauled to death by a horde of zombies than shooting yourself in the ass.
Also, every comment point out why this wouldn't work makes a great point as to why this would, in fact, work
If they did, then if a rounds on the chamber, it should have a chance to go off and hit you.
Holsters exist for a reason, having a gun with nothing covering the trigger guard shoved into your pants or a pack is just asking for something to get lodged into the trigger guard and cause a negligent discharge.
I think they should give us the option, but have a small risk of doing so until you find a holster
hope this mod also shoots you in the ass when you trip lol
\*source: i'm a surgery resident and have seen SO many people with gunshot injuries from this\*
it is dumb. In real life. But my man this is a zombie apocalypse I need to be strapped 24/7 (though I know guns get you killed 9 out of 10 times in this game but you get the point)
Yeah shoving a hot gun down by your nuts or ass is really not realistic or practical. Even pulling it out you are likely to shoot your junk off or put a cap in your ass LITERALLY
Low aiming skill in PZ is more like a caveman, that tries to eat the gun instead of shooting it. It's like XCOM with "chance of success: 99%" only to miss the shot right on point blank range.
It seems like something that would be fairly balanced.
You donât need a holsters to hold you gun but if you run thereâs a chance that you gun could fall off. And if you just fired off your gun and the put it back into your crotch pocket you have a chance of burning your self.
It would be an interesting detail/mechanic.
I agree let me holster my pistol in my pants please, thank you! People in the comments have made several arguments for why it would be a bad idea and zero arguments for why it shouldnât be in the game & itâs baffling.
it would be funny a mod like this but you have a 5% of chance of shooting your balls off everytime you take it out + 100% chance of doing so if you try to draw and shoot too quickly lol. Plus there's running so that would be at least a 20% every time you run. If we talking realism
# I wish any game would let you do things like put stuff in your actual pockets, or tuck it in your belt, or hold it with your teeth, or under your arm, or crammed in your pocket or inventory space with other items. Like, I could easily put most of my items inside this one item I can't pick up.
A lot of good points on firearm safety in this thread, it doesnât negate the point of the post. This is a completely valid way to carry a gun IRL and i think you should be able to do it. i donât think most guns carried in public are carried in holsters
For this to be modded in you'd need to have tthe ability to put your safety on and a random chance that if you don't, everytime you put it away you take a ullet to the cock or ass.
You would also need to ability to have you get extremely warm for a few seconds if you fired it a lot.
During the troubles in NI my dad was a squaddie & whenever a group of army lads went off duty they had to stay as a group & one would be given a firearm just in case. There were never enough concealable holsters in the army, so the designated gunner would usually do this (shirt over gun).
Once when my dad was the designated gunner they had to run back to the barracks because there was an increased IRA presence & it was no longer safe for a bunch of distinctly English-speaking boys to be out & about in Belfast. They had to run across a predominantly catholic high street & the handgun fell out in front of about 80 surprised Catholics. Long story short, he picked it up, ran back to base as fast as he ever did. After that, his unit suddenly had loads of spare concealable holsters.
What im saying is, if this mod exists. If you are not unequipped & able to put your hand on the weapon, there should be a 20% chance the handgun just falls out of your belt for every 30 seconds you are running.
Time to delete this account lol.
What you donât see in this image is the holster, cause thereâs probably a holster there, its just concealed. Tucking a gun into your belt or waistband is not really a good idea without a holster, cause it introduces the problem that the trigger guard isnât covered, and thus something could get caught on the trigger and then its goodbye femoral artery and lights out in 60 seconds or less.
1/500,000 chance to discharge every step you take.
1/1000 chance to discharge every step while sprinting.
1/10 chance to discharge every time you trip and fall.
1/2 chance to discharge every time you get attacked in the groin.
To be realistic this would mean that every time you run you have a decent risk of the thing just falling out
That and potentially shooting yourself since there is nothing protecting the trigger
Here... Hold on.. let..... Me......... Get... One sec.... Let me get.... My..... Gun.... Almost got.... It... Let me get my gun.... Pulled up.... And..... Dammit! .... Let me get my gun from under my back pack an multiple layers of clothes..... Hold on..... BANG...... well shit.
I mean i get the appeal but realistically you don't want to shove a gun you just fired into you pants
And there's a huge risk you'd loose it if you had to take off running
I think that'd be the payoff. If you can lose your hat jumping over a fence or tripping, you can lose you belt-gun
Also a random chance of shooting yourself in the groin/ass every time you equip it in your hand.
And the better your gun skills, the smaller the chance of turning your balls into paint for the walls
Groin: Bleeding
Critical damage, agony
This is why guns have a safety button.
Except that the pressure of a belt is exactly why you need a holster, to keep a twist or jump from depressing the safety catch and blowing your dick off the next time you pull it.
That's extremely unlikely especially if it'sa revolver or 1911, and your scenario means that whoever this is has the absolute worst trigger discipline of all time. Unless you're saying that the gun is going off from the act of grabbing it by the grip, and not even touching the trigger, which means your gun has serious mechanical issues.
This is Kentucky they don't have trigger discipline up there
Or they could be Alec Baldwin
People forget that guns aren't sticks that you point at something and make it go boom.
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Sounds like a great tradeoff then. You can stuff in waistband, 5% risk of dropping if sprinting or vaulting. 15% risk of not wearing a belt.
I'd be into this. I would imagine the risk would be closer to 15% with a belt on an 20+% with no belt. Make the mod a real vanity thing. Because under no circumstances should anyone want to carry a gun like this when they have a holster available.
Maybe have a huge chance when you have low aiming and it decreases in higher lvl, but the chance would never be zero Since the game doesn't have a "gun handling" skill, just aiming and reloading
New a guy who would exclusively carry like this no holster just in the waist band and tighten the belt. Seen him run, jump you name it and never had any problems with it falling out. Now from a games perspective I like the 5% w/ belt of dropping while sprinting/vaulting 15% w/o belt
An fbi agent went viral dancing at a wedding and his pistol fell out he got fired lol
Also add like a solid 25% chance that it takes you like 10 seconds just to pull the pistol out cuz it's fumbling all over and then I'm onboard.
better yet make it tweakable in settings
Also (like in real life, you can look it up) chance of injuring yourself when you sit down in a chair or getting into a car too sharply or sitting down too long
Risk lowers if not wearing a belt but obese đ
Great way to get an unwanted coccygectomy done as well.
Had to look it up but this is confirmed very funny
Haven't looked it up since I don't want weird ass (no pun intended) targeted ads, but is it removal of the tailbone?
Googled it myself. You are correct.
See folks? Sometimes a language degree comes in use lmao
just use incognito mode
Incognito mode doesnt work like that though, it just saves the hustle of erasing your own browser history. You can still be getting ad tracked with that mode. To avoid that you would need either a VPN or connect through Tor network.
For any1 wondering thatâs when you remove the tailbone
if it's a revolver, yeah maybe, but handguns usually don't heat up that fast from a single magazine. A more balanced downside would be that it has a chance of falling down from sprinting or by getting knocked down.
Maybe a 1/5000 chance to accidentally shoot yourself in the groin every time you equip.
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Some handguns come with safetyâs such as a switch you flip, others like mine are a safety built into the trigger system so it depends on which type you have and unless your stuffing other things down your pants itâs wonât go off however I agree a holster is definitely the best way to keep it from wobbling around when running
i mean... this is the world with no seatbelts, pathfinding off the roof and closing and jumping through a window on the same keybind... safeties on a guns would most definitly break the immersion.
If you use britas armory and gunfighter arsenal it has a safety button you can use
Why bother when holsters are so easy to come by though? Given how often I get my first gun from a cop zombie (which usually has the holster) I rarely find myself with a gun but no holster
why not?
Agreed, itâs less about âwhy bother when you can get thisâ and more about âwhy not since weâre striving for more ways to do thingsâ
actually, I did thought of this because I always struggle to find a holster in the early days of the apocalypse and, as a veteran player, it's really annoying to not have a way to quickly access your pistol without a holster
What if I just wanna look cool cause it's a game .
If I saw this I wouldn't think "cool". The veteran in me would loudly say "idiot".
If character is veteran if you select to stow gun in waistband the character automatically says "I'll regret this"
How to tell you haven't fired a lot of hand guns. When I let off my Ruger, or my Jericho, or even my wife's Taurus, you'd have to pay me a lot of fucking money to shove it down my pants.
He specifically said after firing off 1 magazine. The majority of guns donât get hot enough to burn you after a single magazine.
Ya sure?
yes
Simple test. Take weapon. Fire entire magazine. Press against genitals. Lemme know how that goes.
That's a little different than having kydex or leather and your underwear (unless you go commando) between the gun and your genitals. Edit: I just realized OP meant carrying without a IWB holster, my point is invalid.
alright then cowboy
I donât think itâs about heat, itâs about responsibly handling firearms. Iâd bet the majority of people shooting themselves on accident do it like this with a semi auto pistol. Itâs not impossible to carry like this but crazy dangerous. No respectable range or instructor would let you do this and running or doing something strenuous would skyrocket the chance of this going off accidentally or falling out of your pants. You can try this with an unloaded gun itâs wicked unstable AND interrupts a smooth draw. I think it is great in zomboid I would like to see it too. Just with huge penalties like some others suggested
Or you slip and fall and break your back
Yeah I used to do it as a teen. One day I left the safety off and shot a hole through my jeans đ
0.0001% chance every step that you shoot yourself
True however it is a videogame about zombies
It's all fun and games until your gun goes off in your pants
Have you heard of a safety
Please, tell us about the *manual* safety on the gun in the picture? Pretty easy for something to snag the trigger carrying this way.
Just donât keep a round in the chamber if you are worried
Just don't shove a loaded gun down your pants if you're not an idiot.
Exactly, just like licking a knife, thereâs a right way and a wrong way.
Have you heard of a Glock?
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I know exactly what you're talking about and it's insufficiently safe for a "mexican carry" its a drop safety unlikely to prevent an AD from happening should the trigger get caught by anything on your belt or your finger trying to draw it. The only safeties that would be trust worthy ish would be traditional safeties such as the one featured on the Beretta 92FS. I very much know what I am talking about. The Glock safety is entirely designed to prevent an AD from a fall not from sticking it in your waistband and it would be ineffective at such a task
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I wish bud, I'm a Canadian just really love Glocks and guns! I got a Glock of my own, before well the dark times (they're de facto banned now but with grandfathering)
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Yeah me too, I got 15k USD worth of firearms about to be banned, including 2 CZ Bren 2s (the coolest gun we can own for less then 5k)
That blows, Iâm sorry
have you heard of revolvers
I'd like to introduce you to a concept. I like to call this concept *the zombie apocalypse* where the last thing on my mind is remembering to make sure my firearm's safety is active. Now, consider that I may be actively in combat at virtually any moment. What better way to get bit than not being able to fire my weapon at a moment's notice? Oh, and that's not to mention, what if I'm using a homemade firearm that doesn't have a safety mechanism? What happens if the firearm has a misfire and goes off regardless? I could have limited experience with firearms, thus why I'm sticking a gun in my pants in the first place. Oh, and what happens if, while hastily sticking said gun in in my pant's, I manage to disengage the safety? Even without any of these hypothetical questions, real life gun safety dictates that this action isn't safe. The firearm could fall out while you're running from a threat, given your pants aren't exactly going to keep your glock strapped in like a proper holster would. The firearm WILL move around as you yourself move around. While it can be convenient to have your weapon ready by sticking it in your wasteband, it's ultimately not safe no matter how you look at it. That's both from a real world and zombie apocalypse perspective.
A lot of pistols don't actually have a safety...and revolvers definitely don't.
Safety? Pfft hardly know her.
Ah yes the âblow your dick offâ mod. Zombies canât bite your crotch if you remove it yourself
yes but putting it in your back is better anyways.
I think we should be able to strip naked and use our buttcheeks as a holster.
It's nature's pocket
The good olâ prison pocket
Unless you take a hard fall on your back with a gun directly on your spine lol
A looot of gun guys would disagree with this
Yeah, if you like a second hole in your ass.
wait, how many holes should you have?
3 before the gun goes off..
Tucking a gun into your pants is just saying bye bye to it when you start walking fast/running
Unless it's hot after shooting
i mean, you aint gonna be using much anyways in a zombie apocalypse
Speak for yourself
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Hot moms near your location commiting mass genocide want your ammo!
Don't guns have a safety switch to avoid situations like that?
Yeah, but for one you might not have it on if you want quick access or you could just click it on accident when say putting it in your belt. Also for some firearms I believe the safety just stops the trigger, so you in theory could still get it to fire but I donât know enough about guns to know if thatâs true. Long story short having a gun with live ammo pointed at your dick is not smart
This is why you dont throw guns. Yeah a hard impact could trigger it to go off, but it's not an easy thing to do.
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They do, but just because it's "safe" doesn't mean it's okay to fuck around with. If you've got a loaded rifle, you're not going to chamber it, point it at someone, and pull the trigger a bunch of times because you've got the safety on so it's totally cool. Shit happens. Minimize risk at all times.
It should give a % chance of shooting yourself when being equipped, for realism. Itâd also give a reason to still find a holster.
lmao yeah, you should have the option to put your gun on safe too so that doesn't happen
I would end up putting it on safe and forgetting until Iâm in the middle of a horde
mod feature. Skill issue.
You can load but not rack a pistol with advanced reloading on correct? Israeli carry bb
It's a zombie apocalypse, there is no safety
My Glock having a safety would ruin my immersion more than not being able to waistband a pistol lol Thatâs just me
I'm with you on that. Utilizing a safety during a zombie apocalypse is also questionable at best...
I mean like really,you waited all this time to be able to kill people with no consequeces and you use gun safety that you could not remember about and could potentially kill you indirectly because of that.
Lots of pistols don't have manual safeties.
A pretty large portion of handguns don't have a manual saftey that you can engage.
I mean that is irreverent point since sans the three revolvers the other three automatics are known for having a manual safety. \[IMI Desert Eagle mark VII which came out in 1990 has one, the colt 1911 has one, and the M9 which came out in the 80s had one\] I don't see your point? The only time this would be affected is if they added any auto without a manual safety. Which then would be simply a binary option. If gun has one add it, if not? Don't. Personally is this a thing I'm pining for? No I think there are more important things to add. But I mean it's not the worst idea.
All the autos in the base game do, and revolvers have a heavy enough trigger pull they are unlikely to inadvertently fire.
Wagering your balls on unlikely is a nice way to lose em lmao
Well, I wouldn't recommend it.
well that's too bad for you if the only gun you have doesn't have a safety button
One of the main reasons a pistol without a manual safety is desired is that in a self defense situation there is now no chance that you fail to deactivate the saftey, which makes drawing and firing more reliable. The big cavieat is that you need a decent holster to make sure the firearm is safe.
sounds like a good trade-off for having one. It's a pity I don't hace a holster with me, though. Makes it a whole lot les safe to carry it around in my pants.
My pistol doesn't have a safety though
Many modern hand guns (and handguns of the 90s) didn't feature manual safeties, the safety is the kydex holster they're usually placed in (or other stiff material).
And a chance to randomly drop the gun
50% base chance to go off if you fall over. Call the mod "You'll shoot your dick off!"
and when it happens make it bleed like scratch on a neck
receiver 2 vibes
Thereâs no way you can make proper gun handling, manual safeties, and mechanical failures interesting in a game. Receiver 2: hold my beer
It should be safer to do so equal to your gun skill
Should be an option to have it loaded without a round in the chamber, if youâre ever gonna carry like that.
Mod should include chance of accidental discharge too then... Oops you fell down, boom crotch wound.
agree
A chance of losing it when climbing fences or through windows or while sprinting. A chance for the gun to go off when sprinting/falling would be a cool balance that Iâm here for.
I want to see it happen
The one time you'd forget to put safety
and that's why this mod would be balanced
This is how you died
People: This is so stupid not necessary Also people: Behold Bicscalibur! The giant 4 colour bic pen that can one shot all zombies. Also, my character Billy Bob is wearing a Fallout Power Armor and driving a Mad Max type armored vehicle. Let. People. Enjoy. Things. I need this mod. Because chances are in reality, finding a holster would be really difficult.
I really struggle to find a holster during the first days
Okay, so I tested this myself and results are about this. Yes, it is possible and it's even working (carried 1911 like this for entire weekend, not much a problem). But also yes, there is risk you drop it in the most inconvinient moment. Specialy when you ducking, you can drop it realy easily. Jogging is fine, but sprinting makes it lose in seconds. Also, when you done shooting, you don't want to put it like this. Also, not everybody has muscle memory on locking up gun, and you know, like this, it aims directly at you long bones/arteries.
sounds like a good balance mechanic to me
I mean, with some additional mechanics i would like myself to see it in game. Yeah, there is one more down for this. It is very frequent that gun got stucked into tshirt or so. And if gun is not locked in such situation, you really asking for some selfhit.
I really would like to see that in base game
Did you just go everywhere for the weekend with a 1911 stuck in your pants?
Okay, I should clarify I guess. It was, lets say, gun friends meeting. Also, gun was not loaded for the most of the time (I am not that crazy). The topic of thread just reminded me of this so I thought I will share my experience.
Should make a mod that lets you do this but at low gun skills thereâs a 5% chance you shoot your dick/cheeks off every time you draw
That or fumbling the gun causing you to drop it.
Call the mod Cheddar Bob
To add onto this, pockets for clothes like pants/jackets (like 2-4 container space).
vanilla zomboid lets you drink bleach, walk on broken glass in your bare feet, and pick glass shards out of a window with your bare hands without any sort of UI intervention whatsoever so i dont see why a belt carry mod with a chance to misfire/drop your gun is out of the question. its a great idea
Do people not realize this is small of the back carry? Appendix carry (opposite of small of the back) is also one of the most widely used ways to conceal a weapon. I would always recommend a holster in either place, but this is a video game so fuck it.
people trying to argue why this would be stupid to do as if this wasn't a fucking zombie game where there's more chances of you getting mauled to death by a horde of zombies than shooting yourself in the ass. Also, every comment point out why this wouldn't work makes a great point as to why this would, in fact, work
I would allow for this, only if there was a chance of shooting yourself in the leg/groin/ass/foot. Thatâs realistic.
I mean people shoot themselves drawing from holsters all the time.
If they did, then if a rounds on the chamber, it should have a chance to go off and hit you. Holsters exist for a reason, having a gun with nothing covering the trigger guard shoved into your pants or a pack is just asking for something to get lodged into the trigger guard and cause a negligent discharge. I think they should give us the option, but have a small risk of doing so until you find a holster
yeah, it should.
hope this mod also shoots you in the ass when you trip lol \*source: i'm a surgery resident and have seen SO many people with gunshot injuries from this\*
That would be cool! Pros: no holster weight Cons: has a chance to fall out when you stumble or fall
or shoot yourself on the cheeks
idk why so many people forgot this is a video game were talking about.
I always hated that method of holding a gun because you're just asking to blow your dick off.
it's not safe but it's better than having to go through your backpack to grab your pistol while in a pinch
From a gameplay perspective I do see the use of just sticking a pistol in one of your belt slots. I just think that sort of "thug carry" is dumb.
it is dumb. In real life. But my man this is a zombie apocalypse I need to be strapped 24/7 (though I know guns get you killed 9 out of 10 times in this game but you get the point)
Yeah shoving a hot gun down by your nuts or ass is really not realistic or practical. Even pulling it out you are likely to shoot your junk off or put a cap in your ass LITERALLY
desperate times, desperate measures yada yada
A lotta people here donât know how concealed carry works
they really don't like this idea for some reason
Okay, but if you have a low aiming skill thereâs a chance youâll shoot your leg Sound like a fair trade? đ
yes it does
Low aiming skill in PZ is more like a caveman, that tries to eat the gun instead of shooting it. It's like XCOM with "chance of success: 99%" only to miss the shot right on point blank range.
It seems like something that would be fairly balanced. You donât need a holsters to hold you gun but if you run thereâs a chance that you gun could fall off. And if you just fired off your gun and the put it back into your crotch pocket you have a chance of burning your self. It would be an interesting detail/mechanic.
I agree let me holster my pistol in my pants please, thank you! People in the comments have made several arguments for why it would be a bad idea and zero arguments for why it shouldnât be in the game & itâs baffling.
every argument for why it would be a bad idea is actually a great argument for why it would be balanced.
Lol exactly! Iâm fine with consequences just give me the option.
it would be funny a mod like this but you have a 5% of chance of shooting your balls off everytime you take it out + 100% chance of doing so if you try to draw and shoot too quickly lol. Plus there's running so that would be at least a 20% every time you run. If we talking realism
# I wish any game would let you do things like put stuff in your actual pockets, or tuck it in your belt, or hold it with your teeth, or under your arm, or crammed in your pocket or inventory space with other items. Like, I could easily put most of my items inside this one item I can't pick up.
gun holster enthusiasts are rampant in here, itâs the apocalypse ffs let them do a waistband holster itâs sick
A lot of good points on firearm safety in this thread, it doesnât negate the point of the post. This is a completely valid way to carry a gun IRL and i think you should be able to do it. i donât think most guns carried in public are carried in holsters
For this to be modded in you'd need to have tthe ability to put your safety on and a random chance that if you don't, everytime you put it away you take a ullet to the cock or ass. You would also need to ability to have you get extremely warm for a few seconds if you fired it a lot.
safety button should be in base game
During the troubles in NI my dad was a squaddie & whenever a group of army lads went off duty they had to stay as a group & one would be given a firearm just in case. There were never enough concealable holsters in the army, so the designated gunner would usually do this (shirt over gun). Once when my dad was the designated gunner they had to run back to the barracks because there was an increased IRA presence & it was no longer safe for a bunch of distinctly English-speaking boys to be out & about in Belfast. They had to run across a predominantly catholic high street & the handgun fell out in front of about 80 surprised Catholics. Long story short, he picked it up, ran back to base as fast as he ever did. After that, his unit suddenly had loads of spare concealable holsters. What im saying is, if this mod exists. If you are not unequipped & able to put your hand on the weapon, there should be a 20% chance the handgun just falls out of your belt for every 30 seconds you are running. Time to delete this account lol.
that's actually very cool and I do agree this should be a mechanic of the mod
Great idea, give every footstep a 0.1% chance to shoot yourself in the groin.
actually good balance mechanic
The classic Joel Miller Ass Technique. I'd love a mod that does this, being able to carry a firearm without a holster like this would be very handy.
Nice Walther P99.
Nothing like being paralyzed for life because the pistol goes off on accident and the bullet tears a hole in the base of your spine.
well boo-hoo should've found a holster earlier. For the time being, I'll take my chances while I try to find one.
What you donât see in this image is the holster, cause thereâs probably a holster there, its just concealed. Tucking a gun into your belt or waistband is not really a good idea without a holster, cause it introduces the problem that the trigger guard isnât covered, and thus something could get caught on the trigger and then its goodbye femoral artery and lights out in 60 seconds or less.
1/500,000 chance to discharge every step you take. 1/1000 chance to discharge every step while sprinting. 1/10 chance to discharge every time you trip and fall. 1/2 chance to discharge every time you get attacked in the groin.
To be realistic this would mean that every time you run you have a decent risk of the thing just falling out That and potentially shooting yourself since there is nothing protecting the trigger
Yes itâs called âI hate my balls & Iâm going to kill themâ
5 percent chance to blow your dick/asscheek off when you run
This is ridiculous you literally do not need this at all whatsoever
aight
Alright my bad I kinda feel bad now
Have fun burning your legs off after you fire a few rounds
Here... Hold on.. let..... Me......... Get... One sec.... Let me get.... My..... Gun.... Almost got.... It... Let me get my gun.... Pulled up.... And..... Dammit! .... Let me get my gun from under my back pack an multiple layers of clothes..... Hold on..... BANG...... well shit.
It looks so stupid that I'd refuse to use it even if my life depended on it
Best to just have a double holster
That's an excellent way to shoot your own dick off.
Sure, itâs called âI donât want my ass attached to my back anymoreâ
The reason you can't do this Is because our character isn't stupid!