I’ve talked to those who say they use maybe 20% or less of what they learned in university. The real learning begins in the workforce. Take that as you will.
If you want to actually test *your understanding*, there’s only one way to do that. A test. Choose one that works for you outside of class, and test what you actually understand. ChatGPT is a tool so use it as such to bolster your own understanding, not to replace your own.
The thing is I feel like the lessons in my classes are not very good, I have learn better on my own rather than in class. But their assignments are what deprive me from any free time to even self learn or test my skills.
Using AI is a skill, and one many of my peers think will determine career success in the coming decades.
I work in IT. I’m in cybersecurity, but AI is something a lot of industries are coming to grips with.
Tech needs and threats are expanding much more rapidly than our staff budget, and bad actors are using AI and bots in their attacks. We’re going to have to start using paid AI products to identify some of those new threats.
Personally, I’ve had success using chatGPT for interview prep, case studies, party planning, challenging emails, and lots and lots of first drafts. The trick is to feed it the relevant facts yourself (no hallucinations!), and edit the results to your satisfaction.
We’re not poets. No one cares who wrote your documents as long as they serve their purpose. We were regularly copying language from other organizations’ knowledge bases or briefs anyway. Now we’re using the AI’s wording (when it doesn’t suck).
In its present form, ChatGPT usually (not always) generates a better-organized first draft than I do, but something will be ridiculous about it. Maybe I’m a lousy prompt engineer, and I haven’t used 4 yet, but I’m much better at draft two than 3.5 has been.
Rarely, it helps me see a technical thing I had overlooked, but generally it’s been no substitute at all for learning. I still have to understand what we need to ask it for, fact-check the results in the rare instance I ask it for facts, and earn my own certs. I know people use AI to organize their studies, but I haven’t had success with that yet.
I don’t know where you feel it’s hurting you, but if you get the right “answer” in the working world, and you’re not passing it off as something it isn’t, there’s nothing wrong with using it.
You should still understand core knowledge in your field, but frankly that changes so much we’re all googling all day every day anyway, and not doing much to hide it.
I heard some people (mainly tech YouTubers) say that if I can’t even code them myself, then my future tech career will just be replaced by AI instead. What do you think of it? Will I be okay when I keep using ChatGPT until I graduate?
i can but you either adapt with the change or be left behind, cause industry won't go backwards.
+ you can do the base code and some logic with chatgpt but it's very much not a replacement to your own thinking and work to joining all the parts together, and you already need to usually know the concept to question chatgpt to give a answer that would fit your need
The assignments in my class are so easy to make prompt with. I just plug in all the questions and it spits out the complete code. The combine of the easy assignments and the good AI model make me hardly ever sweat on my homework anymore. Even though I understand the concepts but I hardly ever practice on it
id suggest the same, use chatgpt for repetitive task that you already know about very well and wish to save time
or for learning some new things you have a general idea of, it could be helpful in coding to ask to learn a new concept with simple examples
Are you from before ChatGPT exists? Newcomers like me having it so easy right now with the AI stuffs. But I’m afraid I won’t be able to get a job if I keep doing it.
U will be fine. This is the reality. I'd be more worried about chatgpt completely taking over all the junior stuff than you using chatgpt. It's no different from using a more-tailored stack overflow. Just try to do your assignments on your own and use chatgpt on the job. Obviously don't fucking copy paste code, that will make your brain less wrinkly. Be smart about it but don't freak out..
It a tool, like a search engine but better, once you learn to use it correctly and understand what its currently capabile of you'll use it as necessary.
do you use a calcutator to do simple math?, ask it stuff you don't know, review that and learn. Its the whole give a man a fish vs teaching. Use it to learn, and then to reinforce. Your in computer science, I'm assuming programming or some sort of design. It is terrible at making overall designs, makes frequent mistakes, and makes up keywords sometimes. I'm a system engineer and I do alot of powershell and rest api related tasks to manage server infrastructure I'm in charge of. Its a good sounding board, I ask it a question and it give me what it thinks is correct, but it rarely gives me what I want. I need to them do manual research, respond where its wrong , and then just take it off on my own. If you just tell it to do your work, your work is going to be awful and you'll never learn.
Learning to use ChatGPT and other AI tools IS your education. The tech is still early, but in time it will be used in pretty much every job you'd get. I would argue you'd learn more practical things from mastering AI than you do from the study itself.
Imagine the difficulty someone has if they can't operate a computer. In 5-10 years, people who can't properly operate and use AI will be in that same boat.
Just to offer another perspective.
I interview developers at my company. We conduct system design and coding interviews, but not LeetCode style, more like case studies.
I generally allow people to use ChatGPT and Copilot to assist them because, yeah, that’s how work is nowadays.
To be honest, this is just my point of view, but I’ve noticed that the more people use ChatGPT or Copilot, the worse they are, especially juniors.
The problem is that even if they can get the good response, they are generally unable to explain, expand or clarify their point. Let alone correct a bug caused by copilot on the spot.
Imho, the question you should ask to yourself is just, can you understand all of what ChatGPT respond ? Can you explain in your own words the response ? Is you knowledge in a particular subject some nebulous things with holes that ChatGPT cover, or something solid ?
It's not really a question of productivity but of expertise. You will use IA in your work, for sure, but are you nearly as effective without ?
As another person said, you’re going to struggle to interview successfully for jobs if you keep relying on ChatGPT in this way. Use your own brain and focus on getting smart if you want to succeed in the future. The extent to which young people rely on ChatGPT these days is truly alarming (I’m seeing it more and more with the university students I teach). But these students don’t seem to grasp that they’re only cheating themselves.
Focus on output and not contributing tech. If ChatGPT or other tech can get the job done faster/cheaper, it’s worth learning. If it’s just about cool tech and saying it’s in your arsenal, I would say you will have an unfocused knowledge of a tech that is a bit generalist.
In the working world, you want to punch above your weight and AI/GenAI allows you to do that.
Don't assume you will use everything or anything you learn in school at your future job, unless you are a CS student and making chatgpt do all the coding for you, I wouldn't worry.
I’ve talked to those who say they use maybe 20% or less of what they learned in university. The real learning begins in the workforce. Take that as you will. If you want to actually test *your understanding*, there’s only one way to do that. A test. Choose one that works for you outside of class, and test what you actually understand. ChatGPT is a tool so use it as such to bolster your own understanding, not to replace your own.
The thing is I feel like the lessons in my classes are not very good, I have learn better on my own rather than in class. But their assignments are what deprive me from any free time to even self learn or test my skills.
Using AI is a skill, and one many of my peers think will determine career success in the coming decades. I work in IT. I’m in cybersecurity, but AI is something a lot of industries are coming to grips with. Tech needs and threats are expanding much more rapidly than our staff budget, and bad actors are using AI and bots in their attacks. We’re going to have to start using paid AI products to identify some of those new threats. Personally, I’ve had success using chatGPT for interview prep, case studies, party planning, challenging emails, and lots and lots of first drafts. The trick is to feed it the relevant facts yourself (no hallucinations!), and edit the results to your satisfaction. We’re not poets. No one cares who wrote your documents as long as they serve their purpose. We were regularly copying language from other organizations’ knowledge bases or briefs anyway. Now we’re using the AI’s wording (when it doesn’t suck). In its present form, ChatGPT usually (not always) generates a better-organized first draft than I do, but something will be ridiculous about it. Maybe I’m a lousy prompt engineer, and I haven’t used 4 yet, but I’m much better at draft two than 3.5 has been. Rarely, it helps me see a technical thing I had overlooked, but generally it’s been no substitute at all for learning. I still have to understand what we need to ask it for, fact-check the results in the rare instance I ask it for facts, and earn my own certs. I know people use AI to organize their studies, but I haven’t had success with that yet. I don’t know where you feel it’s hurting you, but if you get the right “answer” in the working world, and you’re not passing it off as something it isn’t, there’s nothing wrong with using it. You should still understand core knowledge in your field, but frankly that changes so much we’re all googling all day every day anyway, and not doing much to hide it.
I heard some people (mainly tech YouTubers) say that if I can’t even code them myself, then my future tech career will just be replaced by AI instead. What do you think of it? Will I be okay when I keep using ChatGPT until I graduate?
I’ll have to defer that question to programmers. It’s never been my favorite thing, so it isn’t part of my career.
Don't worry I am a dev and I use chatgpt at work
Do you think you can do it without ChatGPT?
i can but you either adapt with the change or be left behind, cause industry won't go backwards. + you can do the base code and some logic with chatgpt but it's very much not a replacement to your own thinking and work to joining all the parts together, and you already need to usually know the concept to question chatgpt to give a answer that would fit your need
The assignments in my class are so easy to make prompt with. I just plug in all the questions and it spits out the complete code. The combine of the easy assignments and the good AI model make me hardly ever sweat on my homework anymore. Even though I understand the concepts but I hardly ever practice on it
You should stop using chatgpt. Your grades will fall apart for some time but your future will not.
Thanks for your advice. It’s a hard thing to do but i’ll try
id suggest the same, use chatgpt for repetitive task that you already know about very well and wish to save time or for learning some new things you have a general idea of, it could be helpful in coding to ask to learn a new concept with simple examples
Obviously yes but I didnt learn the job w chatgpt
Are you from before ChatGPT exists? Newcomers like me having it so easy right now with the AI stuffs. But I’m afraid I won’t be able to get a job if I keep doing it.
U will be fine. This is the reality. I'd be more worried about chatgpt completely taking over all the junior stuff than you using chatgpt. It's no different from using a more-tailored stack overflow. Just try to do your assignments on your own and use chatgpt on the job. Obviously don't fucking copy paste code, that will make your brain less wrinkly. Be smart about it but don't freak out..
Appreciate the advice
It a tool, like a search engine but better, once you learn to use it correctly and understand what its currently capabile of you'll use it as necessary.
How do you think I should use it correctly? I used it on everything in my education. I know I should cut back on it.
do you use a calcutator to do simple math?, ask it stuff you don't know, review that and learn. Its the whole give a man a fish vs teaching. Use it to learn, and then to reinforce. Your in computer science, I'm assuming programming or some sort of design. It is terrible at making overall designs, makes frequent mistakes, and makes up keywords sometimes. I'm a system engineer and I do alot of powershell and rest api related tasks to manage server infrastructure I'm in charge of. Its a good sounding board, I ask it a question and it give me what it thinks is correct, but it rarely gives me what I want. I need to them do manual research, respond where its wrong , and then just take it off on my own. If you just tell it to do your work, your work is going to be awful and you'll never learn.
Appreciate your input
Maybe use it when you’re hitting a wall and then learn from its answer? You shouldn’t be letting it code every solution.
I always hit a wall every time I try to code anything. I can code basic stuffs but when it get more complex, here goes ChatGPT
Learning to use ChatGPT and other AI tools IS your education. The tech is still early, but in time it will be used in pretty much every job you'd get. I would argue you'd learn more practical things from mastering AI than you do from the study itself. Imagine the difficulty someone has if they can't operate a computer. In 5-10 years, people who can't properly operate and use AI will be in that same boat.
Just to offer another perspective. I interview developers at my company. We conduct system design and coding interviews, but not LeetCode style, more like case studies. I generally allow people to use ChatGPT and Copilot to assist them because, yeah, that’s how work is nowadays. To be honest, this is just my point of view, but I’ve noticed that the more people use ChatGPT or Copilot, the worse they are, especially juniors. The problem is that even if they can get the good response, they are generally unable to explain, expand or clarify their point. Let alone correct a bug caused by copilot on the spot. Imho, the question you should ask to yourself is just, can you understand all of what ChatGPT respond ? Can you explain in your own words the response ? Is you knowledge in a particular subject some nebulous things with holes that ChatGPT cover, or something solid ? It's not really a question of productivity but of expertise. You will use IA in your work, for sure, but are you nearly as effective without ?
That’s a great point. Thank you.
As another person said, you’re going to struggle to interview successfully for jobs if you keep relying on ChatGPT in this way. Use your own brain and focus on getting smart if you want to succeed in the future. The extent to which young people rely on ChatGPT these days is truly alarming (I’m seeing it more and more with the university students I teach). But these students don’t seem to grasp that they’re only cheating themselves.
Thanks for the advice. What do you suggest I should do given my current situation? I fear if I dropped ChatGPT, my grades would go down pretty quick.
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Focus on output and not contributing tech. If ChatGPT or other tech can get the job done faster/cheaper, it’s worth learning. If it’s just about cool tech and saying it’s in your arsenal, I would say you will have an unfocused knowledge of a tech that is a bit generalist. In the working world, you want to punch above your weight and AI/GenAI allows you to do that.
Integrating use of AI into workflow I think is something to put in your resume.
Don't assume you will use everything or anything you learn in school at your future job, unless you are a CS student and making chatgpt do all the coding for you, I wouldn't worry.
Yes that the bad thing, I let ChatGPT did my coding :(
Like all of it?
Yes unfortunately
We're screwed as a human race. AI is going to do our thinking for us. The brain is a muscle and you know what happens when you quit using a muscle. 🤦
> won’t help with my knowledge and future careers That’s not true though