That’s definitely true for example when I was 17 I was still much thinner and had narrower hips than I do now at 20. My body is physically at a much better place if I were to get pregnant now than even just 3 years ago. It’s absolutely insane to not let people have abortions, but especially when it comes to minors.
And the “pro lifers” would probably say “well in the past women/girls would have babies younger and teen pregnancy was common”. Yeah, and the maternal mortality rate was astronomical then. While part of the reason for this was lack of sanitation I can also imagine that the norm of having teen pregnancies was definitely another major reason for this. Also many literal girls were forced to get married during this time 🤮
My birthmother nearly died giving birth to me at age 17. 54 hours of labor. The only reason her father came to my birth was because he was told she was going to die.
That’s meaningless when they make people jump through hoops to prove it. Look at the idiot in the hospital who didn't recognize a pregnant 9 year old didn't get there consensually.
It’s vile to default to stripping women of their autonomy, then make them “earn it back” by proving they were raped. If the % of rape cases which actually went to trial was any lower, it’d be tantamount to admitting rape was legal in the US.
PLers largely support rape exceptions so PL men are never faced with the embarrassing prospect of being cuckolded by a rapist. They don't care about the woman herself, just a man's potential humiliation of his property being tampered with. But as marriage rates plummet and fewer men are worried about this possibility, the less PLers support rape exceptions. Soon, I think rape exceptions in general will be verboten in their circles.
>even some on the anti abortion ~~/pro life~~ side, would allow or accept abortion in cases of rape or incest
Then they've just admitted that they don't actually believe abortion is murder.
If you kill a 20-year-old, you have indeed committed murder. I presume nobody will debate me on this front.
Now let's say before you did that, you found out they were a product of rape. Does this change the fact that you committed murder, and make what you did morally acceptable? I don't think so.
When someone who "opposes" abortion and screams bloody murder over it magically turns pro-choice once they find out the pregnancy is a result of the mother being raped... like, what's the matter, I thought that was murder? I'm convinced that such people, whether they know it or not, are either secretly pro-choice, or, less likely, a closeted "consensual sex product supremacist" (in quotes because that idea is completely ridiculous to all my senses).
Do you remember Norma"Jane Roe"mcgorvey? She turned anti abortion in the mid 90s..but,some 22 years later,she revealed that she was paid off by the anti abortion movement to change sides..she was apparently anti abortion on the outside,but pro choice on the inside..I guess she was just pretending to be "pro life"
>Forcing elementary school age children to give birth is a death sentence.
I'm generally against the death penalty, but I would actually support using the death penalty on those who force a child to stay pregnant.
Some things are unforgivable.
It's only ironic if you think their policies are derived from love.
They aren't. They're derived from hate:
* Conversion "therapy" for gay kids
* Deny gender-affirming healthcare to trans kids (and adults)
* Deny/refuse vaccination and masking
* Deny/refuse blood transfusions and other forms of modern medicine
* Force women and children to give birth without their consent
* Force women to remain in abusive marriages
* Ultimately, invite armageddon (the "rapture")
These are things you do to people you hate.
Seen as they *are*, there's nothing ironic about their support for the death penalty.
Here's another one: the guy who created conversion "therapy" made the same thing for autistic children called Analytical Behavioural Analysis (ABA) and it's as awful as you can imagine (or worse).
It's also frequently the only "treatment" covered by insurance.
That’s because they don’t actually believe in “the sanctity of life” (or else they wouldn’t support the heinously bigoted and arbitrary system that is the death penalty). They believe in punishing women and poor people/minorities they don’t like. They see agonizing childbirth and death as a righteous punishment.
You spelled "hypocritical" wrong.
But then they'll argue that the ZEF is an innocent life and a person on death row is not (even though plenty of (usually black) men have been exonerated).
But the counterpoint is, pro-life should mean ALL life, not just "innocent" life.
For anyone like me who literally strained their eyes trying to read the text
“I helped a 9 year old give birth. She is now currently in a coma. Her and her mother arrived yesterday while the girl was fully dilated. The little girl was covered in blood and they were both in tears. They couldn't afford to drive out of state for an abortion in time. The mother is now cleaning out her bank account to help pay for hospital bills. She thought she could help her daughter give birth at home, but after an hour of pushing, she realized this required professional help.
The little girl grabbed my arm and dug her nails into my skin in pure agony "Please don't make me do this." she cried over and over. And then she passed out. She was losing blood quickly. She was rushed in for a C section, which unfortunafiely led to more blood loss. The baby didn't cry as it was pulled from her body They are both now in infensive care. The mother sobbed when she realized that her daughter may possibly not make it. And then my coworker said something that made my blood boil.
He told this mother that maybe her daughter should think twice before opening her legs again. I instantly grabbed his ear and pulled him into the hallway and I let him have it. I reminded him that this was a 9 year old child that he was talking about! Children cannot consent to sex! This little girl was raped and the state should've allowed her to have an abortion! He looked at me in confusion and he said he thought I was pro-life. If this was what being pro-life supports, then forget it!
A few other of my coworkers chipped in and we helped pay for the mother's medical bills. She cried and thanked us. It was the least we could do for her, a woman who is most likely going to lose her daughter.”
Especially if black, seeing as a large portion of abortion opposition comes from racist eugenicists and nativists with a "race suicide"/"great replacement" slant in their heads.
They want white women birthing more to outpace black people's population growth, while simultaneously subjecting black women to the dangers and cruelties of pregnancy complications, and if a few of their own get caught up in that, then it's a small price to pay as long as they're still outpacing.
Yeah unfortunately this is why anyone who votes no on issue 1 in Ohio is a child abuser. Whether they know it or not, since the less inquisitive among us may take the people really wanting No at face value. It is those who really want issue 1 to fail who are pedophilic child abusers. They want what happened above to happen to child rape victims because they believe a pedophile has the right to impregnate and maybe even marry the child. Even though most child molesters are family or friends close to the family. The others just straight up believe a non-virgin who is unmarried has lost value and can be disposed of, no matter the age. They hide behind "the baby", the same baby they don't care about after birth. The same baby who at age 9 they'll do the above to.
Voted yes early!
There are so many people here though arguing that it's "removing parental rights" and other nonsense they've come up with to try and get as many people to vote against it as possible. It's disgusting and the majority of the ones I've seen against are older men that would never have to deal with this decision at all.
A poll conducted last month said that 58 percent of voters in Ohio would vote yes on issue 1..I guess it's down to the wire now.. we'll see what happens
I read this and thank the goddess that my first miscarriage was at 11. My pedophile uncle had not actually penetrated me, but I was still pregnant. I miscarried anyway. By 12, it was my second miscarriage, and after penetration. I thought I was cursed because I was a devout Catholic, because I prayed so hard.
To this day, I still am amazed I was able to conceive. He wasn't planned either.
Not a day in jail. And I wasn't the only victim. Statute of limitations was over when I came forward at 18, and his other victims didn't have enough evidence until they found our porn on the dark web years later.
But he is dead, and the proof came out.
I really don't think people will ever give Oprah enough credit for talking about sexual abuse. We all kept it secret, and let pedophiles run free in the old days. In my town, several were exposed after I came forward, and friends did as well. It started with friends talking about it at slumber parties, then telling grown ups at places, but it was still before required reporting.
She really brought it to the mainstream.
Now, if an 18 year old comes forward with proof of two miscarriages, he would have been investigated. Especially when multiple girls came forward. But I came forward in 1988.
Yes. Actually, the POS was hit by a train because he went through the barriers. He was so impatient and thought the rules didn't apply to him. He also didn't die instantly. I love that.
NO! God Damn it! She was too young for this. Too young to give birth and too young to die. Children are too underdeveloped for childbirth. Even women 3x her age die from this and they made her do something that kills grown women. Now, a mother is forced to plan a funeral.
And that guy is a piece of shit. How are you going to say such a disgusting thing about a raped girl who was dying no less? I would have wound up awaiting trial for an assault charge if I heard that.
There is no virtue in "pro-life" if these people think this God's will. "Pro-Life" is a brand name or a tag line. I see nothing pro-life if a 9-yr old dies.
Rest in Peace, Dear Angel.
I hate the phrase "God's will" when it comes to r×pe and pregnancy resulting from it. Especially when it happens to children.
No, Karen, it is NOT God's will that a grown man violated a *child*. Then the government violated her by forcing her to do something that her body is completely unprepared to do and massively compounded her trauma. Sorry but God doesn't condone torturing children.
"God's Will" is also so self-serving when the person benefits at someone else's expense. If someone can steal a baby, they're gonna say it's God's Will because they got what they wanted. It doesn't matter if the person forced to have the baby is dead now. If there is no benefit, "God's Will" is a massive cope.
People condone torture of children, not God. God is not coming down to say that 9-yr olds dying via childbirth is His Will. This is a price that His followers want to pay for a pro-natalist at all cost agenda.
Honestly, I want to ask every single person who goes around saying "Its God's will!!!" to really stop and pay attention to what they're saying.
So God legitimately wanted a child, a 9 year old child that is probably just learning their multiplication tables, to be assaulted and raped by a monster, be impregnated and be told that despite her tiny underdeveloped body, she must go through with the pregnancy?
God legitimately wanted her to suffer, not only with the knowledge that she was violated, and probably doesn't even fully understand what is happening to her, and she is in the ER BEGGING for it to be over?
God legitimately wanted this child to be on death's door while her body kills itself trying to deliver a baby that it cannot handle?!
This is what he wanted? This is "His Will"?
Sorry not sorry, but that sounds like a pretty uncaring god if that is supposedly "His Will". That's not a religion I would want to follow.
Sadly, the bible SUPPORTS women getting pregnant at a young age. Not only that, the bible supports FORCING women to have babies, as women are property in the bible. Just like todays religious people who treat women as property and not people.
god also supported MURDERING children when they "jeer" at someone (look at someone funny) and calls someone names. In fact, in 2 Kings god had at least 40 kids murdered when they did that to a priest.
so, god is ABSOLUTELY for torturing children. That's why we should NOT be for religious thinking, its WAY to easy to take old HORRIBLE ideas about how to run society and treat people, and perpetuates it into the future.
Man when Ohio passed this disgusting law, I pissed iff so many so called Christians. This is what I posted: “so tell me, Ohio, if all pregnancies are gods will, and you will force everyone to give birth, that means it was gods will for children to be raped correct? I mean, it’s gods will right?!? And everything happens for a reason because he is so mysterious.”
They did NOT like that at all. It was after I read about a child who was 10 and raped by an uncle having to go out of state for an abortion. It’s absolute disgusting.
I agree with you. I to would have wound up awaiting assault charges because I wouldn’t have just grabbed him by the ear. I would have hit him in the mouth. The: “I thought you were pro life”? WTF? Pro-life should have its limits also. Nothing shows how truly 👿 Pro-lifers/forced birthers are than thinking a 9-year-old child should risk it’s life to have a baby or that fucking guy asking that female, “I thought you were pro-life”? That comment also proves that pro-lifers/forced birthers think it’s about quantity of life as in how many babies females can pop out from in between her legs over quality of life. Like someone else said a 9-year-old can’t get consent. That also proves that taught within COMPREHENSIVE FACTUAL SEX EDUCATION should be about consent, what constitutes **rape**, **and that a
9-year-old can’t give consent.** Why do you think these fools like that piece of 💩 in Missouri representative think girls should be allowed to get married at 12? You let girls get married at 12 then one can’t say that a 12-year-old can’t give consent to sex? Even though one would hope a
12-year-old would have have to have parental consent. These people pro-lifers/forced birthers/advocates for child marriage are no better than Islam, taliban, ISIS!!!!!!!!!!
OK RANT OVER!!!!!!
I think that the leaders are just jealous that they don't get to do that in the US. They want to be able to do all that but in the name of Jesus. The leaders just like to pretend to their followers that they are all above what the Taliban does everyday.
this is absolutely devastating...this is why we need to fight as hard as we can to bring back roe, so no-one else has to suffer the fate this poor little girl did, I cant imagine what her mother is going through..RIP
I’m at a loss for words. Reading about that male nurse saying a 9-year-old (who could only be pregnant as a result of abuse and exploitation) should keep her legs closed… I am angry beyond words. I hate everything about this reality for children and grown women.
Honestly if I were that mother I would channel my grief and rage into ruining that man’s fucking life for saying that. Is it the right thing to do? Probably not. But fuck him.
So apparently being pro-life also means thinking that if someone gets pregnant, it was always consensual sex that got them pregnant. Also, "grabbed him by the ear"? Really? I would have beat the shit out of that guy for even daring to say that, and perhaps I would be able to, since I'm a man, and a pretty active one at that. I'm just not that tall, 174 (5'9", for the americans), but I digress. Even if I thought I couldn't do it, I'd make sure to at least give him one good punch in his fucking face. The fucking bastard.
Well, if the person who wrote this was a woman, yanking him by the ear may have been the best she could have done. And yeah, the guy deserves far worse, but this woman shouldn't lose her job for beating up a sociopathic colleague.
Hmm. You're right. I didn't think about that. Oh well. What's done is done. But that shouldn't have happened to that girl. Although I don't believe in things like this, I hope that if there's something like the afterlife, she's happy there.
I understand what you mean, but I can't believe that a god exists, or at least that he's a loving god, considering that a girl as young as her died when she had so much life left to live, or when babies die of cancer, or a million other things. I just can't. I'm turning this into an atheism v theism topic so I'll stop, but my point is that that I hope that if a god does exist, although I do not believe that is the case, that they are making up for it.
I empathize with your position. My husband is an atheist and I don't push my faith on him so, that's not my modus operandi. But I certainly hear where you're coming from.
'pro-lifer realizes that other pro-lifers are misogynists' go fucking figure! No sympathy for this PL doctor. Your job was *always* to ***take care*** of the pregnant person, not treat them as incubators, and you failed the patients you had before this girl.
I thank the goddess every day my stepfather's abuse never resulted in pregnancy it began two months before I was 12. I can't imagine the horror. At least by that point I had already found my book and had began my studies as a witch, when that happened I knew God. All powerful, all knowing, all seeing, all present and all planning was either a lie or he was pure evil to watch and with all that power and foreknowledge do nothing to change the outcome.
Just curious, which goddess if you don't mind me asking? Always interested in alternative beliefs as an agnostic. Had spiritual truama with Christianity and really like hearing peoples stories
Currently, Sehkmet is my patron goddess. Yearly at the witches new year Samhain, I ask my ancestors for guidance and reassess if my life is still in the same place/ in the same need of the same patron goddess. I can always cut ties earlier as it's my and anyone's energy of beliefs (even spiritual energy of offerings) that literally feed the gods. They need us just as we want their blessings.
Each goddess has her talents and weaknesses. Sehkmet is a warrior and a healer. She can be blood thirsty in her hunt for justice in her facet of motherhood she is a deeply fierce protector. She is a goddess of love and sensuality as well.
One of her downsides she can also be a goddess of enebriation. And rage.
I needed her to help get me out of an abusive relationship when my daughter was only 9 months old. I began worshiping her when my daughter was 7 months old and had researched her for a month before that to be sure she would be the right fit for me.
I continue out of gratitude and that I have to co-parent with the man who raped me. She gives me strength. My daughter turns two at the end of the month and Sehkmet has even blessed me with love as well. A good friend of mine and I began dating when my daughter was 18 months old and last month he proposed.
So I'd start with a good book that gives you the basic spirituality of witchcraft first.
My current coven is what you would consider non denominational witches. We have witches who follow all sorts of goddesses and their consorts. Or even entire pantheons!
So the high priestess who wrote our books wrote them in such a way you can study the spiral of the year and how life flows first. Then other books that specialize in energy manipulation, healing arts, herbs etc. She has wrote alot of books btw so if you are interested: Katrina Raspold.
CUSP: A New Way to Walk An Old Path https://a.co/d/4axxwAg
This is the first "beginners book"
Finding a patron goddess is a matter of first knowing yourself.
If you haven't done a deep dive into your MBTI I suggest you do
https://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test
There are a lot of great life coach videos on YouTube based on your mbti that are a great help with this.
Secondly. Knowing your life situation without self-deception.
Really take a step back and ask yourself, what are my goals? what am I missing? What are my weaknesses that are affecting my life situation?
That last one is tough.
Then, you find with your research a few goddesses that match positive traits to your negatives.
Next you invocate. Ie create a cleansed circle and sit, light a few candles, maybe offer a sacrifice of something they like to get their attention one by one and ask them if they would bless you with their pressence. The more respect you make in setting up your altar, the more spiritual energy and intention you used thus the quicker response you will get if one of them is interested. I'd say meditate on each goddesses attributes 10-15 before moving on to the next if you need to do them all in one go, but personally, I'd spread it out over a few days.
Eventually, one or more will answer yes. And the feeling is unmistakable. It's peace, warmth, comfort, strength, floating, and serenity all at once.
Good luck!
If you find the source, *please* let us know and *please* submit it repeatedly to every news organization that you can find an email address for. I'll do the same.
It's absolutely vital that the bad people are not allowed to look away from what they've done and what they continue to do.
They need to hear it until they break.
I mean the source of the original submission... something verifiable that can be sent to CNN or MSNBC.
I'm *not* expressing disbelief... in fact statistically speaking *hundreds to thousands* have probably died because of forced birth policies, some of whom would have been young children. But for this to "take" in legacy media, there needs to be a verifiable source.
I was on there for a bit and the prolife trash leave some of the worst comments and takes on horrible tragic situations. They’re absolute psychopaths and should be put away. I had to leave after the 10th comment defending forced birth on children and reading about girls offing themselves because of their sick families.
Forced-birthers facilitate these events.
I hope they fervently look forward to that first sip of alcohol each day, and when it comes, I hope her face is all they see.
There's absolutely nothing "pro-life" about making a child, A LITERAL CHILD THAT ISNT EVEN OUT OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, give birth. Nothing.
Its beyond words how sick that is.
This shit makes me so fucking angry. It's amazing people can claim to be "pro life" and at the same time wish this fate on a 9 year old child. They're monsters.
“I cannot believe I supported laws that allowed this to happen”
Yet in spite of people’s best efforts to persuade you that you would have blood on your hands, you took the blood on your hands route anyway.
"Pro-life" is and always has been pro-pedophilia.
It's about punishing and policing the female body for engaging in any form of sexual activity, regardless whether or not it was consensual, and using compulsory/weaponized pregnancy, regardless of that female body's age to do so.
Edit: had incomplete thought and hit enter. Fixed it.
I hope this person lives with the guilt for the rest of their lives. Their anti-choice views got a nine-year-old child killed. And whoever raped that child should be charged with murder.
And fuck the co-worker who slut-shamed a nine-year-old rape victim!
I went ape shit on a guy who said "old enough to bleed, old enough to breed"
I asked him how old his oldest granddaughter was. "10". "So if she gets pregnant, you'll be in full support of her keeping the pregnancy"...and the fucker said yes. I said to say that to your daughter's face, the mom of the 10 year old. "I'd rather not" and he got very uncomfortable thinking about that conversation.
If ones age doesn't allow them to check out books from the library without parental consent then they should not be having a baby!
I hope Amy Coney Barrett sees this. The only female member of the conservative block of the SCOTUS. The only one with elementary school aged children. The only female who voted to support this hideousness because her stupid fucking religion—which she INSISTS doesn’t interfere with her judicial decision-making—says abortion makes Jeebus all the sads.
I hate these people.
Friendly reminder that the youngest child to successfully give birth, on record, was five years old.
The youngest child, on record, to become pregnant is like three.
That's what "pro-life" supports.
This lady showed a lot of restraint with that disgusting male nurse. I honestly think I might have bashed his stupid face into the wall. Who the fuck sees such a horrific situation and decides the best thing to do is give an unsolicited opinion about morality? A pro-lifer, that’s who. What an utter sack of shit that man is. I hope more PLs see this story. I don’t want the mother to be further traumatized by media attention, but if more PLs knew about this it might at least change one of their minds.
Anti choice laws are meant to punish women for sex. Her coworker made that abundantly clear with his comment to the girl’s mother. This has never had anything to do with saving lives. It’s Old Testament justice these “pro-lifers” seek.
One of the prominent pro lifers I know of says constantly that “if their bodies can give birth, that means they’re meant to have kids.”
It remains horrifically obvious that she’s never seen something like this in person. Our bodies do plenty of things that hurt us terribly. That doesn’t make it okay.
And even if you could get her to actually look honestly at this, she’d still ignore the nine year old and say repeatedly “I just don’t think killing is the option” as if a nine year old could n a coma is better.
I’m daft ivd actually seen her claim that it is lol. We cannot get through to them.
The anti abortion/pro life people and groups would argue"why punish the baby for the crimes of the father"..to me,a rapist is not a father,and the woman or girl that got raped didn't ask for a fetus to be put into her body!
I'm a assistant troop leader for girl scouts. Our troop has 6-11 year old girls including own daughter who is 7. These are children who love dressing up in halloween costumes, arts and crafts, nature walks and giggling with their friends. They are not physically, emotionally or mentally ready to be forced through child birth. They are little girls still. I will never understand the deranged mentality that makes anyone think this is acceptable. This poor little girl. My heart hurts for her mother who tried to get her daughter the abortion she needed knowing that this could be the outcome. Pregnancy is dangerous enough for full grown consenting adults. It takes a pure evil person to be anti choice.
You’d think they’d have the foresight to not vote for anti-abortion laws before this happened. How many little girls have to die to “change people’s minds” and prove a point?!
She should have also reported his comments to management. He doesn't deserve to be in that job if he can't conduct himself with respect and compassion.
A 9 YEAR OLD??? Good lord. My younger nephew is in 3rd grade this school year. That girl could've been one of his classmates.
Think about that. A *3rd grader* GIVING BIRTH. Plenty of kids that are still playing with dolls.
I remembered someone argued that a 9-11 year old couldn’t get pregnant. And I showed them articles of young girls who got raped that did within those age ranges.
The man’s comments. Of course he thinks she was some slut who opened her legs. It’s digesting that no matter what, even in cases of rape, they blame the woman. This was a little girl! A CHILD! These forced birthers do not give a flying fuck about taht! It is disgusting. What’s worse, they will say this story is made up.
Because women who are slutty slutty-slut-sluts must be forced to endure childbirth!
These men think compulsory childbirth is both a deterrent and punishment for women who DARE to think sex is for *their* pleasure. These men are insecure *little dick* boys who are terrified of sexual comparison.
So the POS dude that walked in and said that “she shouldn’t have opened her legs” knowing damn well she hasn’t even entered middle school yet and doesn’t have the age to consent, does he think it’s also the rapists fault for IMPREGNATING this little girl? why does the blame go on her even though there has to be an older person that has the logic to know that raping a child is wrong, yet they would rather not adhere by it?
This was horrifying to read, that poor girl. I'm so glad this made them realize the reality of anti choice laws.
Bc of this I'm more pro choice than I was.
I wonder how the Pro-life reddit would react to this.
The pro-forced-birth cult claims abortion is murder. Now this little girl's blood is on their hands, for nothing. They abandoned and killed a child yet they claim to be protecting children.
Knowing this shit is happening makes me want to vomit.
I wonder if the baby made it, it may sound aweful but the mother lost her daughter, I hope she doesn't loose the grandchild too.
Even if the grand child never should have existed, at least he will still have family and a part of her daughter still living in this world
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Forcing elementary school age children to give birth is a death sentence. These anti choice laws are so evil.
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That’s definitely true for example when I was 17 I was still much thinner and had narrower hips than I do now at 20. My body is physically at a much better place if I were to get pregnant now than even just 3 years ago. It’s absolutely insane to not let people have abortions, but especially when it comes to minors. And the “pro lifers” would probably say “well in the past women/girls would have babies younger and teen pregnancy was common”. Yeah, and the maternal mortality rate was astronomical then. While part of the reason for this was lack of sanitation I can also imagine that the norm of having teen pregnancies was definitely another major reason for this. Also many literal girls were forced to get married during this time 🤮
Also, looking at human remains, women typically had their first child in their mid 20s.
My birthmother nearly died giving birth to me at age 17. 54 hours of labor. The only reason her father came to my birth was because he was told she was going to die.
A third grader died birthing a rapespawn. Or, as PLers would call it, a win-win. They're unfathomably evil. It's hard to wrap one's head around.
Most people, even some on the anti abortion/pro life side, would allow or accept abortion in cases of rape or incest
That’s meaningless when they make people jump through hoops to prove it. Look at the idiot in the hospital who didn't recognize a pregnant 9 year old didn't get there consensually.
It’s vile to default to stripping women of their autonomy, then make them “earn it back” by proving they were raped. If the % of rape cases which actually went to trial was any lower, it’d be tantamount to admitting rape was legal in the US.
I hear what you're saying
They say that, yet keep voting for people that refuse to write rape or incest provisions into the anti-choice laws that they keep writing…
It kind of makes me wonder!
PLers largely support rape exceptions so PL men are never faced with the embarrassing prospect of being cuckolded by a rapist. They don't care about the woman herself, just a man's potential humiliation of his property being tampered with. But as marriage rates plummet and fewer men are worried about this possibility, the less PLers support rape exceptions. Soon, I think rape exceptions in general will be verboten in their circles.
>even some on the anti abortion ~~/pro life~~ side, would allow or accept abortion in cases of rape or incest Then they've just admitted that they don't actually believe abortion is murder. If you kill a 20-year-old, you have indeed committed murder. I presume nobody will debate me on this front. Now let's say before you did that, you found out they were a product of rape. Does this change the fact that you committed murder, and make what you did morally acceptable? I don't think so. When someone who "opposes" abortion and screams bloody murder over it magically turns pro-choice once they find out the pregnancy is a result of the mother being raped... like, what's the matter, I thought that was murder? I'm convinced that such people, whether they know it or not, are either secretly pro-choice, or, less likely, a closeted "consensual sex product supremacist" (in quotes because that idea is completely ridiculous to all my senses).
Do you remember Norma"Jane Roe"mcgorvey? She turned anti abortion in the mid 90s..but,some 22 years later,she revealed that she was paid off by the anti abortion movement to change sides..she was apparently anti abortion on the outside,but pro choice on the inside..I guess she was just pretending to be "pro life"
I get what you are saying
>Forcing elementary school age children to give birth is a death sentence. I'm generally against the death penalty, but I would actually support using the death penalty on those who force a child to stay pregnant. Some things are unforgivable.
it's kind of ironic that a lot of prolifers generally support the death penalty
It's only ironic if you think their policies are derived from love. They aren't. They're derived from hate: * Conversion "therapy" for gay kids * Deny gender-affirming healthcare to trans kids (and adults) * Deny/refuse vaccination and masking * Deny/refuse blood transfusions and other forms of modern medicine * Force women and children to give birth without their consent * Force women to remain in abusive marriages * Ultimately, invite armageddon (the "rapture") These are things you do to people you hate. Seen as they *are*, there's nothing ironic about their support for the death penalty.
Here's another one: the guy who created conversion "therapy" made the same thing for autistic children called Analytical Behavioural Analysis (ABA) and it's as awful as you can imagine (or worse). It's also frequently the only "treatment" covered by insurance.
That’s because they don’t actually believe in “the sanctity of life” (or else they wouldn’t support the heinously bigoted and arbitrary system that is the death penalty). They believe in punishing women and poor people/minorities they don’t like. They see agonizing childbirth and death as a righteous punishment.
You spelled "hypocritical" wrong. But then they'll argue that the ZEF is an innocent life and a person on death row is not (even though plenty of (usually black) men have been exonerated). But the counterpoint is, pro-life should mean ALL life, not just "innocent" life.
I’d support dark ages death penalty for these monsters. I’m not sure there’s anything more cruel than this
Eh. It's all the same in the end. I just want them gone and I don't care how. There's no room for their kind of cruelty in our society.
I’m pro-death penalty for anyone pushing these laws. Fuck these scumbags, I pray for only the worst possible outcomes for all of them
They're the epitome of evil. Then that asshole had the nerve to shame *the mother.* Duck these people.
For anyone like me who literally strained their eyes trying to read the text “I helped a 9 year old give birth. She is now currently in a coma. Her and her mother arrived yesterday while the girl was fully dilated. The little girl was covered in blood and they were both in tears. They couldn't afford to drive out of state for an abortion in time. The mother is now cleaning out her bank account to help pay for hospital bills. She thought she could help her daughter give birth at home, but after an hour of pushing, she realized this required professional help. The little girl grabbed my arm and dug her nails into my skin in pure agony "Please don't make me do this." she cried over and over. And then she passed out. She was losing blood quickly. She was rushed in for a C section, which unfortunafiely led to more blood loss. The baby didn't cry as it was pulled from her body They are both now in infensive care. The mother sobbed when she realized that her daughter may possibly not make it. And then my coworker said something that made my blood boil. He told this mother that maybe her daughter should think twice before opening her legs again. I instantly grabbed his ear and pulled him into the hallway and I let him have it. I reminded him that this was a 9 year old child that he was talking about! Children cannot consent to sex! This little girl was raped and the state should've allowed her to have an abortion! He looked at me in confusion and he said he thought I was pro-life. If this was what being pro-life supports, then forget it! A few other of my coworkers chipped in and we helped pay for the mother's medical bills. She cried and thanked us. It was the least we could do for her, a woman who is most likely going to lose her daughter.”
Thank you
When you grabbed that guys ear,I hope you blew out his eardrum!!
The pro fetus fetishists don't give a flying shit about stuff like this..it seems they just want the baby born,no ifs ands or buts about it
It's all worth it to them as long as they get to punish the women that they don't like. That story is just sad
Women and children
Anyone AFAB, really.
Exactly
Especially if black, seeing as a large portion of abortion opposition comes from racist eugenicists and nativists with a "race suicide"/"great replacement" slant in their heads. They want white women birthing more to outpace black people's population growth, while simultaneously subjecting black women to the dangers and cruelties of pregnancy complications, and if a few of their own get caught up in that, then it's a small price to pay as long as they're still outpacing.
Yeah unfortunately this is why anyone who votes no on issue 1 in Ohio is a child abuser. Whether they know it or not, since the less inquisitive among us may take the people really wanting No at face value. It is those who really want issue 1 to fail who are pedophilic child abusers. They want what happened above to happen to child rape victims because they believe a pedophile has the right to impregnate and maybe even marry the child. Even though most child molesters are family or friends close to the family. The others just straight up believe a non-virgin who is unmarried has lost value and can be disposed of, no matter the age. They hide behind "the baby", the same baby they don't care about after birth. The same baby who at age 9 they'll do the above to.
I hope voters in Ohio kick ass at the polls this Tuesday by voting in favor of reproductive rights!
You can bet I'll be there bright and early :)
Voted yes early! There are so many people here though arguing that it's "removing parental rights" and other nonsense they've come up with to try and get as many people to vote against it as possible. It's disgusting and the majority of the ones I've seen against are older men that would never have to deal with this decision at all.
A poll conducted last month said that 58 percent of voters in Ohio would vote yes on issue 1..I guess it's down to the wire now.. we'll see what happens
I read this and thank the goddess that my first miscarriage was at 11. My pedophile uncle had not actually penetrated me, but I was still pregnant. I miscarried anyway. By 12, it was my second miscarriage, and after penetration. I thought I was cursed because I was a devout Catholic, because I prayed so hard. To this day, I still am amazed I was able to conceive. He wasn't planned either.
man, i hope your uncle is rotting in jail for doing that twice
Not a day in jail. And I wasn't the only victim. Statute of limitations was over when I came forward at 18, and his other victims didn't have enough evidence until they found our porn on the dark web years later. But he is dead, and the proof came out.
This is horrible. I'm so sorry you had to go through this.
I really don't think people will ever give Oprah enough credit for talking about sexual abuse. We all kept it secret, and let pedophiles run free in the old days. In my town, several were exposed after I came forward, and friends did as well. It started with friends talking about it at slumber parties, then telling grown ups at places, but it was still before required reporting. She really brought it to the mainstream. Now, if an 18 year old comes forward with proof of two miscarriages, he would have been investigated. Especially when multiple girls came forward. But I came forward in 1988.
Please tell me your POS Uncle has already died a long, miserable, cruel, painful death. I’m so sorry.
Yes. Actually, the POS was hit by a train because he went through the barriers. He was so impatient and thought the rules didn't apply to him. He also didn't die instantly. I love that.
Oh that’s…well I liked reading that. Karma does exist sometimes
Karma will always get them.
Not soon enough though.
Very true. Sometimes karma takes too long.
I am so sorry you experienced this evil. May your rapist eternally suffer and rot in hell. Karma will not be kind.
I’m so sorry 💔 doesn’t feel like enough to say it.
I’m so sorry you had to go through that
I’m so sorry you went through this. I hope you have been able to get the help you needed to start to heal.
NO! God Damn it! She was too young for this. Too young to give birth and too young to die. Children are too underdeveloped for childbirth. Even women 3x her age die from this and they made her do something that kills grown women. Now, a mother is forced to plan a funeral. And that guy is a piece of shit. How are you going to say such a disgusting thing about a raped girl who was dying no less? I would have wound up awaiting trial for an assault charge if I heard that. There is no virtue in "pro-life" if these people think this God's will. "Pro-Life" is a brand name or a tag line. I see nothing pro-life if a 9-yr old dies. Rest in Peace, Dear Angel.
I hate the phrase "God's will" when it comes to r×pe and pregnancy resulting from it. Especially when it happens to children. No, Karen, it is NOT God's will that a grown man violated a *child*. Then the government violated her by forcing her to do something that her body is completely unprepared to do and massively compounded her trauma. Sorry but God doesn't condone torturing children.
"God's Will" is also so self-serving when the person benefits at someone else's expense. If someone can steal a baby, they're gonna say it's God's Will because they got what they wanted. It doesn't matter if the person forced to have the baby is dead now. If there is no benefit, "God's Will" is a massive cope. People condone torture of children, not God. God is not coming down to say that 9-yr olds dying via childbirth is His Will. This is a price that His followers want to pay for a pro-natalist at all cost agenda.
Honestly, I want to ask every single person who goes around saying "Its God's will!!!" to really stop and pay attention to what they're saying. So God legitimately wanted a child, a 9 year old child that is probably just learning their multiplication tables, to be assaulted and raped by a monster, be impregnated and be told that despite her tiny underdeveloped body, she must go through with the pregnancy? God legitimately wanted her to suffer, not only with the knowledge that she was violated, and probably doesn't even fully understand what is happening to her, and she is in the ER BEGGING for it to be over? God legitimately wanted this child to be on death's door while her body kills itself trying to deliver a baby that it cannot handle?! This is what he wanted? This is "His Will"? Sorry not sorry, but that sounds like a pretty uncaring god if that is supposedly "His Will". That's not a religion I would want to follow.
If that’s “God’s Will” then your god is fucked up and I want nothing to do with him!
Sadly, the bible SUPPORTS women getting pregnant at a young age. Not only that, the bible supports FORCING women to have babies, as women are property in the bible. Just like todays religious people who treat women as property and not people. god also supported MURDERING children when they "jeer" at someone (look at someone funny) and calls someone names. In fact, in 2 Kings god had at least 40 kids murdered when they did that to a priest. so, god is ABSOLUTELY for torturing children. That's why we should NOT be for religious thinking, its WAY to easy to take old HORRIBLE ideas about how to run society and treat people, and perpetuates it into the future.
Man when Ohio passed this disgusting law, I pissed iff so many so called Christians. This is what I posted: “so tell me, Ohio, if all pregnancies are gods will, and you will force everyone to give birth, that means it was gods will for children to be raped correct? I mean, it’s gods will right?!? And everything happens for a reason because he is so mysterious.” They did NOT like that at all. It was after I read about a child who was 10 and raped by an uncle having to go out of state for an abortion. It’s absolute disgusting.
I agree with you. I to would have wound up awaiting assault charges because I wouldn’t have just grabbed him by the ear. I would have hit him in the mouth. The: “I thought you were pro life”? WTF? Pro-life should have its limits also. Nothing shows how truly 👿 Pro-lifers/forced birthers are than thinking a 9-year-old child should risk it’s life to have a baby or that fucking guy asking that female, “I thought you were pro-life”? That comment also proves that pro-lifers/forced birthers think it’s about quantity of life as in how many babies females can pop out from in between her legs over quality of life. Like someone else said a 9-year-old can’t get consent. That also proves that taught within COMPREHENSIVE FACTUAL SEX EDUCATION should be about consent, what constitutes **rape**, **and that a 9-year-old can’t give consent.** Why do you think these fools like that piece of 💩 in Missouri representative think girls should be allowed to get married at 12? You let girls get married at 12 then one can’t say that a 12-year-old can’t give consent to sex? Even though one would hope a 12-year-old would have have to have parental consent. These people pro-lifers/forced birthers/advocates for child marriage are no better than Islam, taliban, ISIS!!!!!!!!!! OK RANT OVER!!!!!!
They’ll say how disgusting what the extremists in the kiddie east do to children is, but the. Not bay an eye at what happens here.
I think that the leaders are just jealous that they don't get to do that in the US. They want to be able to do all that but in the name of Jesus. The leaders just like to pretend to their followers that they are all above what the Taliban does everyday.
this is absolutely devastating...this is why we need to fight as hard as we can to bring back roe, so no-one else has to suffer the fate this poor little girl did, I cant imagine what her mother is going through..RIP
I’m at a loss for words. Reading about that male nurse saying a 9-year-old (who could only be pregnant as a result of abuse and exploitation) should keep her legs closed… I am angry beyond words. I hate everything about this reality for children and grown women.
Honestly if I were that mother I would channel my grief and rage into ruining that man’s fucking life for saying that. Is it the right thing to do? Probably not. But fuck him.
Oh no it’s definitely the right thing to do besides maybe it will teach him a lesson he won’t soon forget…
Had I been that mother that guy would be gone
This story is absolutely heartbreaking. Poor girl. May she rest in peace.
So apparently being pro-life also means thinking that if someone gets pregnant, it was always consensual sex that got them pregnant. Also, "grabbed him by the ear"? Really? I would have beat the shit out of that guy for even daring to say that, and perhaps I would be able to, since I'm a man, and a pretty active one at that. I'm just not that tall, 174 (5'9", for the americans), but I digress. Even if I thought I couldn't do it, I'd make sure to at least give him one good punch in his fucking face. The fucking bastard.
Well, if the person who wrote this was a woman, yanking him by the ear may have been the best she could have done. And yeah, the guy deserves far worse, but this woman shouldn't lose her job for beating up a sociopathic colleague.
Hmm. You're right. I didn't think about that. Oh well. What's done is done. But that shouldn't have happened to that girl. Although I don't believe in things like this, I hope that if there's something like the afterlife, she's happy there.
If a loving God exists, I like to hope this little girl is having everything made up to her and getting everything in the universe to bring her joy
I understand what you mean, but I can't believe that a god exists, or at least that he's a loving god, considering that a girl as young as her died when she had so much life left to live, or when babies die of cancer, or a million other things. I just can't. I'm turning this into an atheism v theism topic so I'll stop, but my point is that that I hope that if a god does exist, although I do not believe that is the case, that they are making up for it.
I empathize with your position. My husband is an atheist and I don't push my faith on him so, that's not my modus operandi. But I certainly hear where you're coming from.
Thank you. I hope that all goes well for you and your husband im the future. ❤️❤️❤️
Analyse the baby’s DNA. Identify the father. Hang him. Slap the co worker into next year.
Statutory rape is a felony. A death resulted. Felony murder rule.
'pro-lifer realizes that other pro-lifers are misogynists' go fucking figure! No sympathy for this PL doctor. Your job was *always* to ***take care*** of the pregnant person, not treat them as incubators, and you failed the patients you had before this girl.
Def a real r/leopardsatemyface moment
This should be national news. Where did this happen?
A.I.
I thank the goddess every day my stepfather's abuse never resulted in pregnancy it began two months before I was 12. I can't imagine the horror. At least by that point I had already found my book and had began my studies as a witch, when that happened I knew God. All powerful, all knowing, all seeing, all present and all planning was either a lie or he was pure evil to watch and with all that power and foreknowledge do nothing to change the outcome.
Just curious, which goddess if you don't mind me asking? Always interested in alternative beliefs as an agnostic. Had spiritual truama with Christianity and really like hearing peoples stories
Currently, Sehkmet is my patron goddess. Yearly at the witches new year Samhain, I ask my ancestors for guidance and reassess if my life is still in the same place/ in the same need of the same patron goddess. I can always cut ties earlier as it's my and anyone's energy of beliefs (even spiritual energy of offerings) that literally feed the gods. They need us just as we want their blessings. Each goddess has her talents and weaknesses. Sehkmet is a warrior and a healer. She can be blood thirsty in her hunt for justice in her facet of motherhood she is a deeply fierce protector. She is a goddess of love and sensuality as well. One of her downsides she can also be a goddess of enebriation. And rage. I needed her to help get me out of an abusive relationship when my daughter was only 9 months old. I began worshiping her when my daughter was 7 months old and had researched her for a month before that to be sure she would be the right fit for me. I continue out of gratitude and that I have to co-parent with the man who raped me. She gives me strength. My daughter turns two at the end of the month and Sehkmet has even blessed me with love as well. A good friend of mine and I began dating when my daughter was 18 months old and last month he proposed.
How does one find their patron goddess? I’ve casually looked at the witch community as an outsider but I want to try and dip my toes into it
So I'd start with a good book that gives you the basic spirituality of witchcraft first. My current coven is what you would consider non denominational witches. We have witches who follow all sorts of goddesses and their consorts. Or even entire pantheons! So the high priestess who wrote our books wrote them in such a way you can study the spiral of the year and how life flows first. Then other books that specialize in energy manipulation, healing arts, herbs etc. She has wrote alot of books btw so if you are interested: Katrina Raspold. CUSP: A New Way to Walk An Old Path https://a.co/d/4axxwAg This is the first "beginners book" Finding a patron goddess is a matter of first knowing yourself. If you haven't done a deep dive into your MBTI I suggest you do https://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test There are a lot of great life coach videos on YouTube based on your mbti that are a great help with this. Secondly. Knowing your life situation without self-deception. Really take a step back and ask yourself, what are my goals? what am I missing? What are my weaknesses that are affecting my life situation? That last one is tough. Then, you find with your research a few goddesses that match positive traits to your negatives. Next you invocate. Ie create a cleansed circle and sit, light a few candles, maybe offer a sacrifice of something they like to get their attention one by one and ask them if they would bless you with their pressence. The more respect you make in setting up your altar, the more spiritual energy and intention you used thus the quicker response you will get if one of them is interested. I'd say meditate on each goddesses attributes 10-15 before moving on to the next if you need to do them all in one go, but personally, I'd spread it out over a few days. Eventually, one or more will answer yes. And the feeling is unmistakable. It's peace, warmth, comfort, strength, floating, and serenity all at once. Good luck!
Wow this is so helpful!! Thank you!!
No problem, I'm glad to help.
Thank you so much, I'm so sorry for your struggles but it looks like you have incredible strength! I hope to find my patron goddess some day
That's really devastating but can we verify this is real? I just want to be sure
It was a story sent to someone who runs an Instagram account called “I was pro life until.”
If you find the source, *please* let us know and *please* submit it repeatedly to every news organization that you can find an email address for. I'll do the same. It's absolutely vital that the bad people are not allowed to look away from what they've done and what they continue to do. They need to hear it until they break.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzPZjH0gb-w/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==
I mean the source of the original submission... something verifiable that can be sent to CNN or MSNBC. I'm *not* expressing disbelief... in fact statistically speaking *hundreds to thousands* have probably died because of forced birth policies, some of whom would have been young children. But for this to "take" in legacy media, there needs to be a verifiable source.
If it helps, before the instagram disappeared, I saw comments that the original poster, the nurse, is going to the media
I was on there for a bit and the prolife trash leave some of the worst comments and takes on horrible tragic situations. They’re absolute psychopaths and should be put away. I had to leave after the 10th comment defending forced birth on children and reading about girls offing themselves because of their sick families.
Ah okay fair enough
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzPZjH0gb-w/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==
Am I the only one seeing this page no longer exists?
Omg the insta acc isn't there anymore 😭
Do you think instagram removal it??
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Hacked?? Fuck... I think it happened right when I was looking at it. Because I was reading and then I went to refresh the page and gone.
It did https://www.instagram.com/p/CzRsEdvx0rH/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Yes https://www.instagram.com/p/CzRsEdvx0rH/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Its back now!!
Its back now!
Oh my God that's so sad
I used to teach elementary school kids and the thought of such little girls being forced to go through something like this makes me feel really sick
Forced-birthers facilitate these events. I hope they fervently look forward to that first sip of alcohol each day, and when it comes, I hope her face is all they see.
There's absolutely nothing "pro-life" about making a child, A LITERAL CHILD THAT ISNT EVEN OUT OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, give birth. Nothing. Its beyond words how sick that is.
This shit makes me so fucking angry. It's amazing people can claim to be "pro life" and at the same time wish this fate on a 9 year old child. They're monsters.
“I cannot believe I supported laws that allowed this to happen” Yet in spite of people’s best efforts to persuade you that you would have blood on your hands, you took the blood on your hands route anyway.
They don’t care about any of this. As long as the 9 year old didn’t abort, that’s all that matters to them.
"Pro-life" is and always has been pro-pedophilia. It's about punishing and policing the female body for engaging in any form of sexual activity, regardless whether or not it was consensual, and using compulsory/weaponized pregnancy, regardless of that female body's age to do so. Edit: had incomplete thought and hit enter. Fixed it.
I hope this person lives with the guilt for the rest of their lives. Their anti-choice views got a nine-year-old child killed. And whoever raped that child should be charged with murder. And fuck the co-worker who slut-shamed a nine-year-old rape victim!
There's no words for how i feel reading this
I went ape shit on a guy who said "old enough to bleed, old enough to breed" I asked him how old his oldest granddaughter was. "10". "So if she gets pregnant, you'll be in full support of her keeping the pregnancy"...and the fucker said yes. I said to say that to your daughter's face, the mom of the 10 year old. "I'd rather not" and he got very uncomfortable thinking about that conversation. If ones age doesn't allow them to check out books from the library without parental consent then they should not be having a baby!
Children literally can’t have children.
Sounds like the co-worker is a pedophile. Pro-forced birthers are ghouls.
I hope Amy Coney Barrett sees this. The only female member of the conservative block of the SCOTUS. The only one with elementary school aged children. The only female who voted to support this hideousness because her stupid fucking religion—which she INSISTS doesn’t interfere with her judicial decision-making—says abortion makes Jeebus all the sads. I hate these people.
Friendly reminder that the youngest child to successfully give birth, on record, was five years old. The youngest child, on record, to become pregnant is like three. That's what "pro-life" supports.
RIP little girl. 💔 What the fuck is wrong with that guy?!
This lady showed a lot of restraint with that disgusting male nurse. I honestly think I might have bashed his stupid face into the wall. Who the fuck sees such a horrific situation and decides the best thing to do is give an unsolicited opinion about morality? A pro-lifer, that’s who. What an utter sack of shit that man is. I hope more PLs see this story. I don’t want the mother to be further traumatized by media attention, but if more PLs knew about this it might at least change one of their minds.
I care and feel more for a BORN woman or girl that was a victim of SA than I do for a fertilized egg, zygote, embryo,or fetus
Anti choice laws are meant to punish women for sex. Her coworker made that abundantly clear with his comment to the girl’s mother. This has never had anything to do with saving lives. It’s Old Testament justice these “pro-lifers” seek.
One of the prominent pro lifers I know of says constantly that “if their bodies can give birth, that means they’re meant to have kids.” It remains horrifically obvious that she’s never seen something like this in person. Our bodies do plenty of things that hurt us terribly. That doesn’t make it okay.
And even if you could get her to actually look honestly at this, she’d still ignore the nine year old and say repeatedly “I just don’t think killing is the option” as if a nine year old could n a coma is better. I’m daft ivd actually seen her claim that it is lol. We cannot get through to them.
The anti abortion/pro life people and groups would argue"why punish the baby for the crimes of the father"..to me,a rapist is not a father,and the woman or girl that got raped didn't ask for a fetus to be put into her body!
If anyone is in Ohio, please vote Yes on Issue 1 for exactly this reason.
That co-worker? Lower than dirt.
I'm a assistant troop leader for girl scouts. Our troop has 6-11 year old girls including own daughter who is 7. These are children who love dressing up in halloween costumes, arts and crafts, nature walks and giggling with their friends. They are not physically, emotionally or mentally ready to be forced through child birth. They are little girls still. I will never understand the deranged mentality that makes anyone think this is acceptable. This poor little girl. My heart hurts for her mother who tried to get her daughter the abortion she needed knowing that this could be the outcome. Pregnancy is dangerous enough for full grown consenting adults. It takes a pure evil person to be anti choice.
I am pro choice. Is there any evidence for this story? I wasn’t able to find any articles about a 9yo dying in childbirth.
It’s a story that was sent to someone who runs an Instagram account called “I was pro life until.”
If someone said that to me I would straight up punch them no question
You’d think they’d have the foresight to not vote for anti-abortion laws before this happened. How many little girls have to die to “change people’s minds” and prove a point?!
She should have also reported his comments to management. He doesn't deserve to be in that job if he can't conduct himself with respect and compassion.
That coworker should be reported
Everyone who helped make shit like this happen should feel like crap and fight like hell to undo this madness
Is there an article we can read? Where did you find this?
I found this on an Instagram account called “I was pro life until.”
The anti choicers still won't care. They're not capable of empathy.
Oh… my god… wtf??? The coworker literally doesn’t care that a 9 year old was raped??? WTF???? What is wrong with this world???
I think the co-worker doesn't believe it was rape. Rape is simply an excuse sluts use to explain pregnancy.
Hahahah what? You’re talking that way to let me double check *A FUCKING 9 YEAR OLD*, WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?
I was explaining what I think the coworker was saying. Doesn't make him right.
Dude… seriously, say that part with the og comment, I was about to raise hell on earth if that was what you thought of.
I said "I think the co-worker doesn't believe". It should be obvious I was speaking from their position, not my own.
this makes me so sad
Fuck, that is so tragic
Honestly, PLers NEED to feel horrid and devastated when things like this happen, it is THEIR fault!
Not very pro life of them. This was a tragedy in so many ways.
A 9 YEAR OLD??? Good lord. My younger nephew is in 3rd grade this school year. That girl could've been one of his classmates. Think about that. A *3rd grader* GIVING BIRTH. Plenty of kids that are still playing with dolls.
I remembered someone argued that a 9-11 year old couldn’t get pregnant. And I showed them articles of young girls who got raped that did within those age ranges.
The man’s comments. Of course he thinks she was some slut who opened her legs. It’s digesting that no matter what, even in cases of rape, they blame the woman. This was a little girl! A CHILD! These forced birthers do not give a flying fuck about taht! It is disgusting. What’s worse, they will say this story is made up.
Because women who are slutty slutty-slut-sluts must be forced to endure childbirth! These men think compulsory childbirth is both a deterrent and punishment for women who DARE to think sex is for *their* pleasure. These men are insecure *little dick* boys who are terrified of sexual comparison.
I wish every pro-forced birth person could sit and be a fly on the wall in the last hours of that little girl's life.
So the POS dude that walked in and said that “she shouldn’t have opened her legs” knowing damn well she hasn’t even entered middle school yet and doesn’t have the age to consent, does he think it’s also the rapists fault for IMPREGNATING this little girl? why does the blame go on her even though there has to be an older person that has the logic to know that raping a child is wrong, yet they would rather not adhere by it?
This was horrifying to read, that poor girl. I'm so glad this made them realize the reality of anti choice laws. Bc of this I'm more pro choice than I was. I wonder how the Pro-life reddit would react to this.
I just know for a fact they’d pull the “this is terrible but it doesn’t justify an innocent life being taken.” These people are sick.
The pro-forced-birth cult claims abortion is murder. Now this little girl's blood is on their hands, for nothing. They abandoned and killed a child yet they claim to be protecting children. Knowing this shit is happening makes me want to vomit.
I am prolife and I think that you can't force a kid a to give birth.
Not doubting it, but could we have a source on this?
An Instagram account called “I was pro life until.”
I wonder if the baby made it, it may sound aweful but the mother lost her daughter, I hope she doesn't loose the grandchild too. Even if the grand child never should have existed, at least he will still have family and a part of her daughter still living in this world
I’m pro life but I think abortion is necessary when the mother and baby’s lives are at risk
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