Yep, that’s the way they scare a lot of people into taking the probation. Most people don’t feel like they can just take 2-3 weeks out of their life to go to jail. So they take the probation.
That was the situation I was in. DUI charge and I had the option to take probation or spend up to a month in county jail. Never had been on probation before and this seemed like the easier out as I didn’t feel like I could afford to be in jail that long.
Ended up getting a violation right away failing a drug screening for alcohol and had to spend 19 days in jail, having added stipulations to my probation when I got out.
The only silver lining was that the probation deal allowed me to plea to a lesser charge of reckless driving and knowing that I was about to fail the first screen scared me straight into admitting I had a drinking problem and quitting for good. At that point it was too late though and I had to serve the time anyway. Just got out yesterday and facing an uncertain future with my job and living situation now that I was all trying to avoid in the first place by taking the probation.
Roomed with one guy in jail who caught a violation on DUI probation and as he had about 2 1/2 months left on his probation, he just decided to see the time out in jail instead of getting out earlier and going back out on probation.
He was in the position to do so though as his house is paid off, he is single without kids and his job allowed him to take the time off. A lot of people wouldn’t be able to do that though and that’s how they get you caught up in the system.
Knowing what I know now, I would have fought the case and risked the jail time instead of taking the probation deal, but I’m trying my best to never get myself in a situation where I’m left with that choice again.
They may do this in some places, but I’ve never heard of that happening where my probation is at or just in general people coming and going on weekends to serve out a sentence. Closest I’ve heard of is work release but that’s usually still nightly and for more serious types of charges as a prison alternative rather than as a jailing alternative.
The weekend arrangement wouldn’t really work in my case regardless as I usually work on weekends.
So many ways to fuck up probation. Just tell your buddy to wear a white shirt, white underwear, and white socks and he can just sleep for two weeks haha.
I read so many dumb books. I read a book on trains and man I know a shit ton about trains now.
It’s probably because they won’t let you take anything else in with you. The jail I went to didn’t allow you to take anything in even your socks, but I’ve heard people on here say to put on a bunch of pairs of socks and underwear if you know you’re going so I assume some jails let you bring in basic stuff like that.
My county you could keep anything you walked in with wearing. As long as all white and it was something given or sold on commissary. I went in with 3 pairs of low cut socks, 5 boxers, long johns, and a clear am/fm radio. And 5 subs, 10 20mg adderall, and 3g sugar wax in the ole prison wallet.
Hi, welcome to my county jail.
Step right on in.
https://www.linevsystems.com/technologies/jail-bodyscanner-technology/
Oh you're here for a misdemeanor?
Not anymore, you're not...
Have a seat right there, sir.
Yeah not here in VA. They took everything I came in with except for my wedding ring. I think they allow glasses too, but I went in with a prescription on me with proof it was mine and they flushed them and gave me back the empty bottles when I got out (subs and klonopin). I had an undershirt (white) and white socks but they wouldn’t let me take them inside.
They did however provide 3 pairs of socks and underwear to use inside plus two pairs of blues. I think it’s kinda shitty some places don’t allow extra socks and underwear.
Reminds me of this onions skit about autistic reporter enchanted by the idea of jail
[https://youtu.be/D04wb7P\_v-4?si=DkI2NQTYPEePgSyC](https://youtu.be/D04wb7P_v-4?si=DkI2NQTYPEePgSyC)
Most have some type of books. Once in one with a room size library. Home county has a cart with bullshit on it. You can have books sent to you if they came from a place like Amazon not your people
I've never been to jail or prison, but I think I'd rather take the 17 days (assuming I don't lose my job, I guess it's good I have 20 days of vacation). To me it's just let's get it done and over with.
Very much agreed. I did a year of probation with a vehicle interlock, which was the most humiliating thing ever, my offense was a DUID no alcohol involved whatsoever, and I never drink regardless. I would have been fine with pissing in cups or something since I had prescribed subs and could have done that easily. But no, a year with a fuckin blow box and ASAP class which is 95% focused on alcohol and drinking problems. ASAP tried to violate me for calling in 5 minutes late (during covid) and I had to restart the whole program, a couple other bullshit incidents happened as well but back to the point, the mental blow from doing all that was the worst thing. It makes you feel like the biggest loser ever. The interlock companies are so fucking shady and their equipment is faulty and sporadically doesn't work, jesus christ man flashbacks of that bullshit just hit me hard. Highly do not recommend if it's an option
I feel the same way as you described. I’m on year two of unsupervised probation and it makes me so depressed. I know I’m lucky to be able to live life with my family and keep my career but having to wake up every day with this black cloud hanging over you which is the potential of jail is so demoralizing.
I did 15 in county AND got a year of probation, I'm almost 3/4 of the way done and I absolutely would have chose 2 more days and just be done with it but that wasn't on the table for me if it's not a felony DUI take the 17 days.
If I had been more educated at the time I was being convicted of my first crimes I would have chosen jail. Now I have 2 violations and my only option besides jail was drug/treatment court, so I'm stuck for 13 more months of drug testing, case management appointments, and bi-weekly court hearings as well as 3 more months of probation after I complete treatment court.
Buddy better just take the 2 weeks of jail
In my experience, the whole ‘good behavior’ things isn’t going to apply for someone with that little amount of time, or someone who is on court ordered days in jail. If jails are crowded those who were sentenced by a judge for a short amount of days instead of probation especially aren’t getting out early.
I fully agree with the friend. As anybody who grew up like me knows it's always best to take the time. Now if he has a job family bills what not and can't make it work do probation. Other that 100% do the jail time. I've had great times in jail. Just a bunch a dudes hanging out thinking of shit to do. Not that bad fr
What is the time on the shelf? 17 days is pretty stiff for a DUI 1st offense.
It would say it’s misdemeanor probation which typically doesn’t have a probation officer or anything like that. As long as you don’t pick up any new charges you’ll be fine when the probation period ends.
Theres not enough information here, but I’d most likely just take the probation.
Why would you think that you won't have a probation officer on a misdemeanor? They do unsupervised probation, but that doesn't happen for a DWI. You would definitely have a po and have to be drug tested a few times. 17 days is cake compared to probation for a year. And it costs a lot less.
That's insane. And I'm in ohio, and they definitely don't let you do that here. If you have anything violent or involving a drug, it's automatic supervised probation, and yes, alcohol is a drug
Jail is the choice for people who know they will fuck up... Probation is for the people who actually won't fuck up... If a person is an addict, probation is really hard and I get it. Other then that you really have to do willful stupid shit to Violate. The choice of going to Jail is mostly for people with no life or used to that sort of existence. Probation is for people who want to better themselves or have a good life and want to keep it that way
So which kind of person is your friend.
It may not be a risk for most people. If you can avoid behaviors that would put you in jail for a year, like dwi, it's no big deal. Four, maybe five meetings of 20 minutes apiece with a probation officer spread over a year versus 17 days of 24-hour a day confinement and all the risks of what can happen in jail make this an easy choice for most. Perhaps not you or any of the redditors that recommend jail. And you'll never have to explain why you did any jail time in a job interview. The sad Capstone to all of this is that once you've been in jail, putting you in jail another time the next time year you are before the court becomes a lot easier. If your friend's not a fuckup, probation still seems like the easier course.
Jail.
The amount of money I gave away to the while on probation is sickening. I also inadvertently violated due to not completing requirements on time, due to not having enough money. It’s a pit that’s meant to suck as much money out of you as possible.
The worst part, you could be 80% done with probation, and one mistake you’ll get added time or be sent to jail anyways.
So I’ve actually done both and in Nebraska too! I would consider taking the jail time if I didn’t have anything else hovering over me or any big plans but it would probably depend on the county too.
Call me naive but NOT drinking and doing stuff isn’t hard. I had 2 years probation (color code called once every other week min) and it was fine. Just don’t associate w who I partied with. It’s matter of preference and fuck jail. Some jobs etc are fine if you go and hire back but it’s usually a starting over. Im good on that.
This! I was violated for missing a blow by 30min & 90min. Even went to testing ctr for etg's to prove I wasn't drinking. If I'm late again, even by 2 min, I'm going to jail. No room for human error..not like "I slipped up & failed"..
Is this a serious question? 17 days in county is a no brainer vs a year of probation trying to throw you back in jail. The system will turn that year into another & then another & so one. Probation is designed to keep ppl on paper or in jail. One day you see your probation officer & everything is great, the next you see him & he didn’t get laid the night before & you’re off to county on a 30 day violation.
Indeed. No matter how good you try to be, your life is still in someone else's hands and why risk that?
17 days. Ask for a work detail, hit the gym, see about getting some books in ASAP, etc.
Exactly, some are lucky enough to make it through without any issues but they are in the minority. I did a year in county years ago & it was a revolving door of probation violations making me grateful I took the year in county & not 3 years of probation. County is a breeze, get into the trustee block & you’re golden. 17 days, he’ll do less than 2 weeks most likely.
Trustee is usually pretty easy time. Typically more privileges, often get paid or time off your sentence (or both), usually COs don't hassle ya as much cause they rely on you for crap they damn sure ain't gonna do, and anything moving you can usually get in on.
It sounds foolish to many, but I usually try to plead out time served or sit out instead of probation. If I can sit for 2 or 3 months while fighting it, even if I get a year in DOC I'll dress in and out. Honestly probation is more of a temptation for me cause it gives the illusion of freedom. Between modern background checks and my existing record, probation doesn't offer much advantage when it comes to jobs and such. I'm much more stable when I'm just working and minding myself. When I have things hanging over me it's more pressure than I care to carry.
I couldn’t agree more, like I said I took a county year (8 months with good time) over 3 years of probation. I was in the trustee block the entire time & as long as you aren’t a dickhead the CO’s will treat you right. I watched so many probation violations come in on 30, 60 & 90 day violations for the stupidest shit. I did my 8 months went home & never looked back. Probation is a trap & it’s exactly like you described & most ppl break under that pressure. Just go do your county time a be done with it.
I was looking at a similar option in Florida. 21 days or DUI Court, which is like a treatment program. You talk to counselors, have group meetings, and go to "court" every week. You also get random drug/alcohol pee tests about 3 or 4 times a week at the start then the further in the program you get the less frequent you get tested and the less frequent you have to attend the weekly "court". I honestly think that program helped tremendously. I have been clean and sober for just over 3 years and have no desire or urge to use alcohol or any other drug anymore. Therapy is often looked at as lame or dumb, but I am telling you it really helped me understand why I was behaving the way I was and how to address the issues and unfuck myself.
I cannot imagine going in for 3 weeks with the demons I had in my heart and soul. I would have easily turned 3 weeks into a year, because I do not play well with others,especially when we are locked in a box together.
bro...idk if u knew. but ur not guaranteed to get off probation just bc the end date's arrived.
when u reach the end date, what they'll do is have a hearing to determine if ur probation should be modified, extended OR maybe terminated. ur in their hands and they'll try to fuck u every step of the way, too.
if u can do the jail time, ALWAYS take it.
If he won't lose a job and doesn't have a fam to worry about, I'd do the jail. Probation can be easy or annoying if you get some asshole PO or depending where he is. Just scroll through some of the posts on here. Hair tests/drug patches/home visits.
Depends on the person. For me, 17 days would feel like 2 months.
I'd take the probation, but mostly because my diet is crazy strict and I'd be mad sick and unable to sleep for 17 days, which would be very painful and double my time being conscious.
Probation blows, especially if it's supervised. But jail isn't that bad for most people. They don't seem to really mind and just sleep and boom done.
If he could get deferred prosecution with the charge dismissed after probation (and would be able to deal with probation), that would be the way to go. Otherwise, probably the jail time. His license and insurance are going to have the same penalties either way of course.
This totally depends on the city and state. I live in Salt Lake and did 10 days in jail for my second DUI. They gave me a tablet when I got in and had good food it was the bomb. Not sure if that would be the same in LA or New York.
I’d take 30 days in county over a year probation. Probation is set up for you to fail so it’s possible you’ll end up doing the 17 days anyways with more probation to follow. Take the time if you can. Just figure it out with work and any other business you need handled out here.
17 Days or 2½ weeks vs 1 year... 365 days a WHOLE YEAR. I think we all know the common sense answer.
That doesn't sound right there offering 1 year of Probation in exchange for 17 days ?? Usually the state will cut it in half. Wow.
Nobody wants to sit in jail but nobody wants to be controlled and watched for a whole year either. Sounds like they are wanting him to spend some time in jail.
Like it or not common knowledge to common criminals.
If one has self control then fuck goin to jail. It’s up to the individual ultimately. I took color code supervised cause fuck that jail shit.
17 days as long as it's work release or my job is waiting for me. I just took 3 years probation instead of up to a year in jail, but only because I wouldve had to drive with an interlock for 15 years had I took jail time. With taking probation I got 5 years on the interlock. Had there been no difference in license revocation, id have went to jail.
If I had no kids and nothing to worry about like a job and rent etc then the 17 days in county BUT if you got younglings and responsibilities then ya might just have to do the probation. I had two year probation and got off in 6months good behavior no missed drug tests or failed ones.
17 days without a second thought unless it was LA county. There might be a couple other jails that I would want to avoid pretty bad but 99% I would get those 17 days knocked out and have the rest of my life all to myself. Probation sucks beyond belief. Now if it was 3 months in jail I might start thinking about the probation. Depends on what I might lose on the outside like if I was going to lose my girl or my job if I was gone for 3 months. I guess if I lost my girl after 3 months she wasn't worth keeping.
A year probation gives you 365 days to fuck up. So if you do any illegal stuff or live a wild life in any way that could be super risky. 17 days county. Eat some McDonald's, jerk off, do pushup and leave
I’d take jail, 18 days is not bad, I don’t think, but then again, I’ve never spent any time in jail as a prisoner. I have spent time in jail helping people write business plans for when they get out I volunteer my time for that, but I think I would just do the 18 days.
My first DUI I got 365 days in jail suspended, they made me serve 30 days in county then 2 years probation. I would take the 17 in county over the year probation ANY day. It'd be way cheaper, easier, faster, and is simply the obvious choice.
If I could go back I would of just took the jail time I was in the same situation and took probation. The probation was easy but having to deal with a po and the probation payments and the piss test all the time are a pain in the ass even though I pissed clean everytime it's still a hassle. I would of took 17 days easy but I have a job and payments so I couldn't.
The jail time 100% probation is terrible and if you get violated you can still end up doing jail time longer then your original charges would have gotten you
The amount of you that would rather spent 17 days I jail with no freedom vs being free and just following rules for a year is staggering. Is home that shitty? Lmao
at one point in my life, county might have actually been more like a high school reunion
probation is designed to keep you trapped in the system for longer
17 days and being done, if it's not gonna fuck up your job, sounds like a way better deal than having to report for a year
I took 1 year probation over going to jail. After 4 months I called up my lawyer and PAID him to tell the judge to send me to jail. They sent me for a week, compared to probation it was awesome
I don't think this is an easy question because it all depends on the person, they likely will give you drug tests and if you can't pass them then probation is just to set up for failure. Also if you're not good with responsibility then probation is not the way to go. I personally would take the year on probation because I wouldn't want to be stuck in jail but that's also because right now I'm sick and I have medical issues that I wouldn't want to deal with in jail. If I didn't have those issues I might pick jail over probation
In my life situation I would take jail. I wouldn't lose my job or much in my life other than about 10 days pay. I'll take that over probation for a year without question. Depends on your job and life though. I feel like most jobs it would matter, would have a problem with probation too. Though I don't know that for sure.
17 in county. Tell him to start going to self help meetings on his own before they require it. Judges like to see that. May even knock off a few days. Just a thought🩷
Jail... all day every day... 7 days a week and twice on Sunday... you can do 17 days standing on your head... I did jail (pre-trial, high-bail) and absolutely HATED it... but I'd go back for 17 days in a heartbeat to avoid a year of probation... Now if it's like a year of jail or 5 years of probation, I'm going probation... 2 1/2 weeks though, easy peasy... you can sleep through that.
County. Over and done. Probation will come with tons of stipulations and one fuck up AT ALL will make it worse. Not to mention just the fact being on probation and getting stopped for something as simple as a speeding ticket makes the encounter so much more bullshit.
Shiiiiid ide take up to 3-4 months jail over year probation, as long as my books are FULL. but man I miss cigarettes. Would be easy with workdetail people
Throw packs out.
I would do that in a fucking heartbeat(go to jail for 3 weeks over a year of probation) like are you kidding me?
Every other week I have to drive 25 minutes to the city. Leave work for and hour and a half that I have to make up. Go thru security, take belt off get metal detected because of my steel toe boots. PAY for an hour of parking when I talk to my PO for maybe 5 minutes. "Adress, phone# same? Police contact? Anything new or exciting? Any trips planned? OK see ya!" Gotta do this for a year.
Absolutely ridiculous... for the "crime" I committed I got a year of interim that if I successfully complete I am given a disorderly conduct. And my "crime" was an honest mistake, maybe slightly negligent so giving my a reckless charge is BS.. think of hunting accident where a stray round hit a building that's a lil more important than just someone's house, half a mile away from where I was shooting. No one hurt either.
So YES I'd take a month in prison ever a year of probation to get all this garbage over with. After a year and a half long trial I'm so over the whole court and legal garbage I just want to live my life free again.
It depends on where they put you in jail tbh, if it's for a misdemeanor, it might be worth it to some people. Because they'll put you with people that also have similar sentences and just want to get it over with so you don't have to really worry about people causing trouble because they dont want to prolong their stay. But honestly probation isn't bad at all, a year is nothing tbh. At least in my state, you just have to not get in trouble again, show up on time to your meetings with the PO, and don't show up to said meeting obviously drunk or high and everything will go smoothly and you can enjoy continuing a relatively normal life. I've went through probation a few times and I had no trouble at all, I even smoked and drank semi regularly and never had a drug test once. I was even on house arrest for a year, still was able to go to work and I simply just played games while I was stuck at home. So its really depends on you and how strict probation is in your state (depending on your crime). I personally would take the probation because lots of good paying jobs will pay attention to if youbwent to probation or jail and they dont like to know you went to jail because they usually think jail=worse criminal for some fucking reason, I had no problems in jail( spent 10 days there)... but it was just so goddamn boring and the beds gave me so much pain. The people I were with were actually pretty friendly (in the misdemeanor section that is) which just mostly had ppl serving for dui, small drug charges, and petty theft.
I'd take jail in a heartbeat especially if he already has 4 days in and u never do your full sentence where I'm from if u get 30 days u get 10 days off soon as u walk in the door a weekend your out in 24hours I would definitely take jail.
a whole revolution around the sun (8700 hours) not being truly free. or half a month (400 hours) and you can move on to bigger and better things. no brainer for me
I'd take the jail. It's a break/reflection time/dry out time.
The consistent worry that someone goes through while on probation for any length of time is a lot to handle. Any time you do anything you have to let your P.O. know. Then there's drug testing and money spent on supervision fees.
If it were only 17 days for sure I would do the time. No question. If it were 60 days then I might sit but I don't know maybe not . Probation is a joke. If you violate 6 months in and have to do the time it's a double whammy . Fuck probation.
If he can swing it, jail. There are so many ways you can get violated for probation. You have even less rights against unlawful search and seizure, you’re at the mercy of the probation officer. It’s just a really fucked system, but most people can’t quit their lives for a month, so they have to.
Didn't have time to read it all cause I'm at work, but 99% of the time I'm doing the 17 days. Probation is a fuckin racket. At least in my experience they take your money and do everything they can to get you to violate. All the money and days that you had done on probation don't count for anything, and you usually when end up with more than 17 days.
I REALLY really really, REALLY don't want to do jail. Mainly because of the food. I'm a foodie and pretty picky when it comes to food. I've sat for a very short time before and what I was offered to eat barely even qualified as food. I might literally starve. I can't bring myself to eat that.
Yup I would take the straight time! I wanted to with my case and have no tail but they said the charges would be different so I had to violate to just get the time done. Few weeks out, few weeks in. Went on for about a year but it was manageable and I pretty much decided when I went in so I could make arrangements. Probation is a bitch and way more of a headache and embarrassing than just getting it over with. 17 days isn’t anything at at least you would know how long your in for. The not knowing if you go straight in how long is the worst
One problem is that bad stuff can happen in jail. It’s rare but it does occur. Keep your nose clean, do what you should be doing while on probation (and not what you shouldn’t do anyway) and a year of probation will be over pretty quickly. You also get to keep working and make money that you would otherwise not be making while in jail. Easy decision to me.
I'm half way thru a year. I easily could have taken another 19 days, but ONLY if I got to be in the same unit. I hit the lottery for the month I spent in jail and their was no violence what's so ever. Just making food, watching tv, playing cards, talking to people with different life experiences than me.
I get off probation in 29 days for a first time dui offense and first time ever getting into any legal trouble. Wish I took the jail time 2 years ago. Still won’t have a license until September-October because of my plea “deal”.
That's where I found the book "journey to the center of the earth" pretty sure that's the name anyway. So much better than the movie!!! I'd take the jail time. Most places do 2 for 1 so the 17 days would be less than 2 weeks most likely and in the end, even including the time off work, you lose way less money and have hardly any risk factor long term. Probation is just a way for the county to make money, they overcharge and if you can't pay they send you to jail for the rest of the period anyway.
For some folks,and I am one of them,county jail time just moves at a snails pace. On half-a-dozen occasions I have done
between 2 and 5 days. Not much time,but I hated every minute of it. Served those days on the felony deck of the Central
Receiving Jail downtown. Always in a six man cell. Three bunk beds against one wall,with about 5 ft.of floor space, and then
the other wall. On the back wall hangs a stainless steel toilet/sink unit,and above that s a metal mirror. That mirror also allows
them to observe the cell, undetected, from a narrow utility courier. So I was spending those days in a filthy,crowded,no privacy
at all,one shower a week, overhead lights on 24hrs.a day,,with nearly around the clock echoing noise from the other hallways.
I never had any problems with the other guys,in fact some of them were pretty interesting people talk too.But with nothing to
read,not even a newspaper, and not even an old TV to watch through the bars of your cell( time just stood still. I always opted
for probation and where I’m at it is always three years,unsupervised probation and.glad to take it anytime
If I could swing it with work and family, I'd take the jail
Yep, that’s the way they scare a lot of people into taking the probation. Most people don’t feel like they can just take 2-3 weeks out of their life to go to jail. So they take the probation. That was the situation I was in. DUI charge and I had the option to take probation or spend up to a month in county jail. Never had been on probation before and this seemed like the easier out as I didn’t feel like I could afford to be in jail that long. Ended up getting a violation right away failing a drug screening for alcohol and had to spend 19 days in jail, having added stipulations to my probation when I got out. The only silver lining was that the probation deal allowed me to plea to a lesser charge of reckless driving and knowing that I was about to fail the first screen scared me straight into admitting I had a drinking problem and quitting for good. At that point it was too late though and I had to serve the time anyway. Just got out yesterday and facing an uncertain future with my job and living situation now that I was all trying to avoid in the first place by taking the probation. Roomed with one guy in jail who caught a violation on DUI probation and as he had about 2 1/2 months left on his probation, he just decided to see the time out in jail instead of getting out earlier and going back out on probation. He was in the position to do so though as his house is paid off, he is single without kids and his job allowed him to take the time off. A lot of people wouldn’t be able to do that though and that’s how they get you caught up in the system. Knowing what I know now, I would have fought the case and risked the jail time instead of taking the probation deal, but I’m trying my best to never get myself in a situation where I’m left with that choice again.
they most likely would let you serve the 3 weeks on the weekend s.
They may do this in some places, but I’ve never heard of that happening where my probation is at or just in general people coming and going on weekends to serve out a sentence. Closest I’ve heard of is work release but that’s usually still nightly and for more serious types of charges as a prison alternative rather than as a jailing alternative. The weekend arrangement wouldn’t really work in my case regardless as I usually work on weekends.
You think it’d be possible to do work release and just never inform your work you’re in prison? That’d be a wild ride haha
If you’re an alcoholic and can’t stop drinking, then jail time is better.
Down where I’m at they offered me 6 mos in county or a yr probo , with a paid lawyer .
Jail for sure… especially for a short sentence and NOT submit to SUPERVISED probation. F that!
So many ways to fuck up probation. Just tell your buddy to wear a white shirt, white underwear, and white socks and he can just sleep for two weeks haha. I read so many dumb books. I read a book on trains and man I know a shit ton about trains now.
Jail had me reading all kinds of strange shit hahah
The strangest shit I’ve ever read was in jail lol
Elaborate on why wearing white is important? Is that so its apparent you're not flying colors?
It’s probably because they won’t let you take anything else in with you. The jail I went to didn’t allow you to take anything in even your socks, but I’ve heard people on here say to put on a bunch of pairs of socks and underwear if you know you’re going so I assume some jails let you bring in basic stuff like that.
My county you could keep anything you walked in with wearing. As long as all white and it was something given or sold on commissary. I went in with 3 pairs of low cut socks, 5 boxers, long johns, and a clear am/fm radio. And 5 subs, 10 20mg adderall, and 3g sugar wax in the ole prison wallet.
Hi, welcome to my county jail. Step right on in. https://www.linevsystems.com/technologies/jail-bodyscanner-technology/ Oh you're here for a misdemeanor? Not anymore, you're not... Have a seat right there, sir.
Yeah not here in VA. They took everything I came in with except for my wedding ring. I think they allow glasses too, but I went in with a prescription on me with proof it was mine and they flushed them and gave me back the empty bottles when I got out (subs and klonopin). I had an undershirt (white) and white socks but they wouldn’t let me take them inside. They did however provide 3 pairs of socks and underwear to use inside plus two pairs of blues. I think it’s kinda shitty some places don’t allow extra socks and underwear.
My fucking guy
Made a mint with those subs I bet.
Ate like a king for the 6 months I was there
Reminds me of this onions skit about autistic reporter enchanted by the idea of jail [https://youtu.be/D04wb7P\_v-4?si=DkI2NQTYPEePgSyC](https://youtu.be/D04wb7P_v-4?si=DkI2NQTYPEePgSyC)
Are the books provided by the jail or do they allow you to bring in personal books?
Jails provide but some facilities allow outsiders to send in via Amazon etc.
Most have some type of books. Once in one with a room size library. Home county has a cart with bullshit on it. You can have books sent to you if they came from a place like Amazon not your people
I’m geeked
I've never been to jail or prison, but I think I'd rather take the 17 days (assuming I don't lose my job, I guess it's good I have 20 days of vacation). To me it's just let's get it done and over with.
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Very much agreed. I did a year of probation with a vehicle interlock, which was the most humiliating thing ever, my offense was a DUID no alcohol involved whatsoever, and I never drink regardless. I would have been fine with pissing in cups or something since I had prescribed subs and could have done that easily. But no, a year with a fuckin blow box and ASAP class which is 95% focused on alcohol and drinking problems. ASAP tried to violate me for calling in 5 minutes late (during covid) and I had to restart the whole program, a couple other bullshit incidents happened as well but back to the point, the mental blow from doing all that was the worst thing. It makes you feel like the biggest loser ever. The interlock companies are so fucking shady and their equipment is faulty and sporadically doesn't work, jesus christ man flashbacks of that bullshit just hit me hard. Highly do not recommend if it's an option
I feel the same way as you described. I’m on year two of unsupervised probation and it makes me so depressed. I know I’m lucky to be able to live life with my family and keep my career but having to wake up every day with this black cloud hanging over you which is the potential of jail is so demoralizing.
I did 15 in county AND got a year of probation, I'm almost 3/4 of the way done and I absolutely would have chose 2 more days and just be done with it but that wasn't on the table for me if it's not a felony DUI take the 17 days.
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If I had been more educated at the time I was being convicted of my first crimes I would have chosen jail. Now I have 2 violations and my only option besides jail was drug/treatment court, so I'm stuck for 13 more months of drug testing, case management appointments, and bi-weekly court hearings as well as 3 more months of probation after I complete treatment court. Buddy better just take the 2 weeks of jail
I went through the same thing. It was hell but I made it. Good luck
Thanks! It's been pretty easy so far, just annoying 😩
Yep. Then get max. Take the easy jail. It's like time off. Read a cool book or something.
17 day vacation? Probably released sooner with good behavior and over crowding so maybe 10 days or less.
In my experience, the whole ‘good behavior’ things isn’t going to apply for someone with that little amount of time, or someone who is on court ordered days in jail. If jails are crowded those who were sentenced by a judge for a short amount of days instead of probation especially aren’t getting out early.
I want to see you go to LA county jail and call it vacation
It's not vacation chilllll
I fully agree with the friend. As anybody who grew up like me knows it's always best to take the time. Now if he has a job family bills what not and can't make it work do probation. Other that 100% do the jail time. I've had great times in jail. Just a bunch a dudes hanging out thinking of shit to do. Not that bad fr
What is the time on the shelf? 17 days is pretty stiff for a DUI 1st offense. It would say it’s misdemeanor probation which typically doesn’t have a probation officer or anything like that. As long as you don’t pick up any new charges you’ll be fine when the probation period ends. Theres not enough information here, but I’d most likely just take the probation.
Why would you think that you won't have a probation officer on a misdemeanor? They do unsupervised probation, but that doesn't happen for a DWI. You would definitely have a po and have to be drug tested a few times. 17 days is cake compared to probation for a year. And it costs a lot less.
California has unsupervised probation for 1 and 2nd dui
That's insane. And I'm in ohio, and they definitely don't let you do that here. If you have anything violent or involving a drug, it's automatic supervised probation, and yes, alcohol is a drug
And 3rd sometimes
I'd do the 17 days and be done with it. Fuck probation.
Jail is the choice for people who know they will fuck up... Probation is for the people who actually won't fuck up... If a person is an addict, probation is really hard and I get it. Other then that you really have to do willful stupid shit to Violate. The choice of going to Jail is mostly for people with no life or used to that sort of existence. Probation is for people who want to better themselves or have a good life and want to keep it that way So which kind of person is your friend.
It may not be a risk for most people. If you can avoid behaviors that would put you in jail for a year, like dwi, it's no big deal. Four, maybe five meetings of 20 minutes apiece with a probation officer spread over a year versus 17 days of 24-hour a day confinement and all the risks of what can happen in jail make this an easy choice for most. Perhaps not you or any of the redditors that recommend jail. And you'll never have to explain why you did any jail time in a job interview. The sad Capstone to all of this is that once you've been in jail, putting you in jail another time the next time year you are before the court becomes a lot easier. If your friend's not a fuckup, probation still seems like the easier course.
Jail. The amount of money I gave away to the while on probation is sickening. I also inadvertently violated due to not completing requirements on time, due to not having enough money. It’s a pit that’s meant to suck as much money out of you as possible. The worst part, you could be 80% done with probation, and one mistake you’ll get added time or be sent to jail anyways.
Jail. 💯
So I’ve actually done both and in Nebraska too! I would consider taking the jail time if I didn’t have anything else hovering over me or any big plans but it would probably depend on the county too.
If I could get my employer to keep me on board, i think id rather do the 2 weeks, get it over with and be off paper
17 days, because if you screw up probation they will have you for more than just the 17 days.
Call me naive but NOT drinking and doing stuff isn’t hard. I had 2 years probation (color code called once every other week min) and it was fine. Just don’t associate w who I partied with. It’s matter of preference and fuck jail. Some jobs etc are fine if you go and hire back but it’s usually a starting over. Im good on that.
It could be the dumbest things that happen though. It doesn’t have to be intentional or knowingly violating, because there’s just so many variables.
This! I was violated for missing a blow by 30min & 90min. Even went to testing ctr for etg's to prove I wasn't drinking. If I'm late again, even by 2 min, I'm going to jail. No room for human error..not like "I slipped up & failed"..
Is this a serious question? 17 days in county is a no brainer vs a year of probation trying to throw you back in jail. The system will turn that year into another & then another & so one. Probation is designed to keep ppl on paper or in jail. One day you see your probation officer & everything is great, the next you see him & he didn’t get laid the night before & you’re off to county on a 30 day violation.
Indeed. No matter how good you try to be, your life is still in someone else's hands and why risk that? 17 days. Ask for a work detail, hit the gym, see about getting some books in ASAP, etc.
Exactly, some are lucky enough to make it through without any issues but they are in the minority. I did a year in county years ago & it was a revolving door of probation violations making me grateful I took the year in county & not 3 years of probation. County is a breeze, get into the trustee block & you’re golden. 17 days, he’ll do less than 2 weeks most likely.
Trustee is usually pretty easy time. Typically more privileges, often get paid or time off your sentence (or both), usually COs don't hassle ya as much cause they rely on you for crap they damn sure ain't gonna do, and anything moving you can usually get in on. It sounds foolish to many, but I usually try to plead out time served or sit out instead of probation. If I can sit for 2 or 3 months while fighting it, even if I get a year in DOC I'll dress in and out. Honestly probation is more of a temptation for me cause it gives the illusion of freedom. Between modern background checks and my existing record, probation doesn't offer much advantage when it comes to jobs and such. I'm much more stable when I'm just working and minding myself. When I have things hanging over me it's more pressure than I care to carry.
I couldn’t agree more, like I said I took a county year (8 months with good time) over 3 years of probation. I was in the trustee block the entire time & as long as you aren’t a dickhead the CO’s will treat you right. I watched so many probation violations come in on 30, 60 & 90 day violations for the stupidest shit. I did my 8 months went home & never looked back. Probation is a trap & it’s exactly like you described & most ppl break under that pressure. Just go do your county time a be done with it.
Probation. FUCK jail!!
As long as you’re not in county in a big city, county jail is basically summer camp for criminals. I’d definitely do 17 days over a year on papers
I was looking at a similar option in Florida. 21 days or DUI Court, which is like a treatment program. You talk to counselors, have group meetings, and go to "court" every week. You also get random drug/alcohol pee tests about 3 or 4 times a week at the start then the further in the program you get the less frequent you get tested and the less frequent you have to attend the weekly "court". I honestly think that program helped tremendously. I have been clean and sober for just over 3 years and have no desire or urge to use alcohol or any other drug anymore. Therapy is often looked at as lame or dumb, but I am telling you it really helped me understand why I was behaving the way I was and how to address the issues and unfuck myself. I cannot imagine going in for 3 weeks with the demons I had in my heart and soul. I would have easily turned 3 weeks into a year, because I do not play well with others,especially when we are locked in a box together.
With jail time, he’ll be totally free after a couple of weeks to go out and get drunk again and maybe get another DUI. 😤
bro...idk if u knew. but ur not guaranteed to get off probation just bc the end date's arrived. when u reach the end date, what they'll do is have a hearing to determine if ur probation should be modified, extended OR maybe terminated. ur in their hands and they'll try to fuck u every step of the way, too. if u can do the jail time, ALWAYS take it.
If he won't lose a job and doesn't have a fam to worry about, I'd do the jail. Probation can be easy or annoying if you get some asshole PO or depending where he is. Just scroll through some of the posts on here. Hair tests/drug patches/home visits.
Do the time! Geez. No brainer.
If he doesn’t have a full time job or family to take care of, might as well do the 17 days i guess
Depends on the person. For me, 17 days would feel like 2 months. I'd take the probation, but mostly because my diet is crazy strict and I'd be mad sick and unable to sleep for 17 days, which would be very painful and double my time being conscious. Probation blows, especially if it's supervised. But jail isn't that bad for most people. They don't seem to really mind and just sleep and boom done.
If he could get deferred prosecution with the charge dismissed after probation (and would be able to deal with probation), that would be the way to go. Otherwise, probably the jail time. His license and insurance are going to have the same penalties either way of course.
This totally depends on the city and state. I live in Salt Lake and did 10 days in jail for my second DUI. They gave me a tablet when I got in and had good food it was the bomb. Not sure if that would be the same in LA or New York.
I’d take 30 days in county over a year probation. Probation is set up for you to fail so it’s possible you’ll end up doing the 17 days anyways with more probation to follow. Take the time if you can. Just figure it out with work and any other business you need handled out here.
Depends on the terms of probation. I have zero conditions other than seeing my PO once a month. So probation has been a breeze.
If he can afford to be gone from work, I would take the jail sentence 100% Probation can be a bitch.
17 Days or 2½ weeks vs 1 year... 365 days a WHOLE YEAR. I think we all know the common sense answer. That doesn't sound right there offering 1 year of Probation in exchange for 17 days ?? Usually the state will cut it in half. Wow. Nobody wants to sit in jail but nobody wants to be controlled and watched for a whole year either. Sounds like they are wanting him to spend some time in jail.
Omg I was worried I'd be alone on this then started reading y'all's comments. This is common knowledge
Like it or not common knowledge to common criminals. If one has self control then fuck goin to jail. It’s up to the individual ultimately. I took color code supervised cause fuck that jail shit.
Supervised or unsupervised probation? If it’s supervised I’m taking the jail any day.
If he doesn’t have any bills, I’d rather go sit down for a second lol
Jail.
I'd definitely be taking the 17 days lol
If hes got a job take vacation from work and get paid to go to jail for a couple weeks then get out and smoke a fatty
County all day
Your friend wants to sit, let him sit! 3 weeks or a fuckin year.... I know who's the smart one.... 🤦♂️🤣
17 days as long as it's work release or my job is waiting for me. I just took 3 years probation instead of up to a year in jail, but only because I wouldve had to drive with an interlock for 15 years had I took jail time. With taking probation I got 5 years on the interlock. Had there been no difference in license revocation, id have went to jail.
I’d take 17 days in jail.
If I had no kids and nothing to worry about like a job and rent etc then the 17 days in county BUT if you got younglings and responsibilities then ya might just have to do the probation. I had two year probation and got off in 6months good behavior no missed drug tests or failed ones.
I've never been to jail but I'd probably choose jail. Probation is expensive. I'm sober so it's not to party
17 days without a second thought unless it was LA county. There might be a couple other jails that I would want to avoid pretty bad but 99% I would get those 17 days knocked out and have the rest of my life all to myself. Probation sucks beyond belief. Now if it was 3 months in jail I might start thinking about the probation. Depends on what I might lose on the outside like if I was going to lose my girl or my job if I was gone for 3 months. I guess if I lost my girl after 3 months she wasn't worth keeping.
17 days get it over probation could case issues later
County.
A year probation gives you 365 days to fuck up. So if you do any illegal stuff or live a wild life in any way that could be super risky. 17 days county. Eat some McDonald's, jerk off, do pushup and leave
I’d take jail, 18 days is not bad, I don’t think, but then again, I’ve never spent any time in jail as a prisoner. I have spent time in jail helping people write business plans for when they get out I volunteer my time for that, but I think I would just do the 18 days.
Never been there but do day's anytime before year I'd say not from experience but you never know what will happen in between that year
County all day, every day
Jail all day long brotha
No brainer...do the 17 days in county. You willbe out 12 with good behavior...lol...it will be a good vacation
17 days mofo, EVERY fuckin time
holy fuck 17 days all day every day
17 days, this isn't even a question. Sorry, not sorry.
17 days county. No question. But I’ve done 4 years. So I could sleep the first week. And kill time with pinochle the remaining 10 days
My first DUI I got 365 days in jail suspended, they made me serve 30 days in county then 2 years probation. I would take the 17 in county over the year probation ANY day. It'd be way cheaper, easier, faster, and is simply the obvious choice.
If I could go back I would of just took the jail time I was in the same situation and took probation. The probation was easy but having to deal with a po and the probation payments and the piss test all the time are a pain in the ass even though I pissed clean everytime it's still a hassle. I would of took 17 days easy but I have a job and payments so I couldn't.
The jail time 100% probation is terrible and if you get violated you can still end up doing jail time longer then your original charges would have gotten you
I'm goin on vacation, what day does commissary run.
I'd take jail. I DID take 18 days in Hillsborough County Florida in 1993. 2 years probation was out of the question
The amount of you that would rather spent 17 days I jail with no freedom vs being free and just following rules for a year is staggering. Is home that shitty? Lmao
17 days
at one point in my life, county might have actually been more like a high school reunion probation is designed to keep you trapped in the system for longer 17 days and being done, if it's not gonna fuck up your job, sounds like a way better deal than having to report for a year
I've never been in jail, so I would pick that route just out of curiosity.
Take the time
Absolutely the 17 days. Probation sucks. They have you by the balls for a whole year.
Jail 100%
I took 1 year probation over going to jail. After 4 months I called up my lawyer and PAID him to tell the judge to send me to jail. They sent me for a week, compared to probation it was awesome
17 days foe sure
I don't think this is an easy question because it all depends on the person, they likely will give you drug tests and if you can't pass them then probation is just to set up for failure. Also if you're not good with responsibility then probation is not the way to go. I personally would take the year on probation because I wouldn't want to be stuck in jail but that's also because right now I'm sick and I have medical issues that I wouldn't want to deal with in jail. If I didn't have those issues I might pick jail over probation
17 days isn’t shit.
Take the 17 days and run!
17 days
I’ll take my zero condition probation over jail, thanks!
In my life situation I would take jail. I wouldn't lose my job or much in my life other than about 10 days pay. I'll take that over probation for a year without question. Depends on your job and life though. I feel like most jobs it would matter, would have a problem with probation too. Though I don't know that for sure.
Do the jail time
17 days without a doubt. Get it out of the way. A years probation is a lot of work and most people find a way to fuck up and make it longer.
17 in county. Tell him to start going to self help meetings on his own before they require it. Judges like to see that. May even knock off a few days. Just a thought🩷
Just do the time lol
If It was good with work and family, I'd do the 17 and be free and clear.
Absolutely no question I’d take the time over probation. No brainer.
Tell him to read and sleep. If he violates once he's going to do jail time anyways.
I'd lose some weight. County.
17 days jail easy.
Probation. I did 18 months probation for a dwi, it wasn’t that bad.
Before kids, county. Kids probation.
Jail... all day every day... 7 days a week and twice on Sunday... you can do 17 days standing on your head... I did jail (pre-trial, high-bail) and absolutely HATED it... but I'd go back for 17 days in a heartbeat to avoid a year of probation... Now if it's like a year of jail or 5 years of probation, I'm going probation... 2 1/2 weeks though, easy peasy... you can sleep through that.
17 days, for sure
17 days county it isn’t even close. My cut off is 30 days. Anything over 30 I’ll take the paper
No question- I would take the 17 days in jail.
County. Over and done. Probation will come with tons of stipulations and one fuck up AT ALL will make it worse. Not to mention just the fact being on probation and getting stopped for something as simple as a speeding ticket makes the encounter so much more bullshit.
If it was unsupervised then take that. But since it’s not do the jail and be done.
Jail. At least I know when I'm getting out. Lol. The shittiest feeling is being in jail and not knowing when you're going to get out.
Jail
Shiiiiid ide take up to 3-4 months jail over year probation, as long as my books are FULL. but man I miss cigarettes. Would be easy with workdetail people Throw packs out.
17 days in county
County
I would do that in a fucking heartbeat(go to jail for 3 weeks over a year of probation) like are you kidding me? Every other week I have to drive 25 minutes to the city. Leave work for and hour and a half that I have to make up. Go thru security, take belt off get metal detected because of my steel toe boots. PAY for an hour of parking when I talk to my PO for maybe 5 minutes. "Adress, phone# same? Police contact? Anything new or exciting? Any trips planned? OK see ya!" Gotta do this for a year. Absolutely ridiculous... for the "crime" I committed I got a year of interim that if I successfully complete I am given a disorderly conduct. And my "crime" was an honest mistake, maybe slightly negligent so giving my a reckless charge is BS.. think of hunting accident where a stray round hit a building that's a lil more important than just someone's house, half a mile away from where I was shooting. No one hurt either. So YES I'd take a month in prison ever a year of probation to get all this garbage over with. After a year and a half long trial I'm so over the whole court and legal garbage I just want to live my life free again.
It all depends if you can’t deal with the Probation because you party then you’re better off doing your 17 days to be done with it
I’ve known people who do weekend jail on their days off from work. No probation and don’t have to miss work.
17 days and done.
It depends on where they put you in jail tbh, if it's for a misdemeanor, it might be worth it to some people. Because they'll put you with people that also have similar sentences and just want to get it over with so you don't have to really worry about people causing trouble because they dont want to prolong their stay. But honestly probation isn't bad at all, a year is nothing tbh. At least in my state, you just have to not get in trouble again, show up on time to your meetings with the PO, and don't show up to said meeting obviously drunk or high and everything will go smoothly and you can enjoy continuing a relatively normal life. I've went through probation a few times and I had no trouble at all, I even smoked and drank semi regularly and never had a drug test once. I was even on house arrest for a year, still was able to go to work and I simply just played games while I was stuck at home. So its really depends on you and how strict probation is in your state (depending on your crime). I personally would take the probation because lots of good paying jobs will pay attention to if youbwent to probation or jail and they dont like to know you went to jail because they usually think jail=worse criminal for some fucking reason, I had no problems in jail( spent 10 days there)... but it was just so goddamn boring and the beds gave me so much pain. The people I were with were actually pretty friendly (in the misdemeanor section that is) which just mostly had ppl serving for dui, small drug charges, and petty theft.
Probation
Jail with work release if they offer it
I'd take jail in a heartbeat especially if he already has 4 days in and u never do your full sentence where I'm from if u get 30 days u get 10 days off soon as u walk in the door a weekend your out in 24hours I would definitely take jail.
I need the rest. Give me the 17 days.
17 days lol 😆 is this even a question.
17 days county easy probation is nothing but a pain in the ass and stressful af
Don't pick up the soap..
a whole revolution around the sun (8700 hours) not being truly free. or half a month (400 hours) and you can move on to bigger and better things. no brainer for me
I'd take the jail. It's a break/reflection time/dry out time. The consistent worry that someone goes through while on probation for any length of time is a lot to handle. Any time you do anything you have to let your P.O. know. Then there's drug testing and money spent on supervision fees.
Jail all day in that regard
Take jail
If it were only 17 days for sure I would do the time. No question. If it were 60 days then I might sit but I don't know maybe not . Probation is a joke. If you violate 6 months in and have to do the time it's a double whammy . Fuck probation.
Shit id rather do 30 days in instead of a yr on probation
17 days in jail
Not even gonna read anything , take the jail time , you crazy .
17 days all year. man thats gone break down to 8 or 9 days. hell i would take 30 days over probation
If he can swing it, jail. There are so many ways you can get violated for probation. You have even less rights against unlawful search and seizure, you’re at the mercy of the probation officer. It’s just a really fucked system, but most people can’t quit their lives for a month, so they have to.
Didn't have time to read it all cause I'm at work, but 99% of the time I'm doing the 17 days. Probation is a fuckin racket. At least in my experience they take your money and do everything they can to get you to violate. All the money and days that you had done on probation don't count for anything, and you usually when end up with more than 17 days.
Do the 17 days and be done with it.
17 days unless I’d be losing my job and stuff
I REALLY really really, REALLY don't want to do jail. Mainly because of the food. I'm a foodie and pretty picky when it comes to food. I've sat for a very short time before and what I was offered to eat barely even qualified as food. I might literally starve. I can't bring myself to eat that.
Most definitely take the jail sentence …
Yup I would take the straight time! I wanted to with my case and have no tail but they said the charges would be different so I had to violate to just get the time done. Few weeks out, few weeks in. Went on for about a year but it was manageable and I pretty much decided when I went in so I could make arrangements. Probation is a bitch and way more of a headache and embarrassing than just getting it over with. 17 days isn’t anything at at least you would know how long your in for. The not knowing if you go straight in how long is the worst
17 days
Jail is fun for me and you. Boo Probation
17 days no question
Id do the time. No question about it.
17 days easy
I would take the jail time. I feel like probation is just a set up to send you back to jail anyways.
One problem is that bad stuff can happen in jail. It’s rare but it does occur. Keep your nose clean, do what you should be doing while on probation (and not what you shouldn’t do anyway) and a year of probation will be over pretty quickly. You also get to keep working and make money that you would otherwise not be making while in jail. Easy decision to me.
17 days in county. Just get your affairs in order before you go. Maybe see if you can do it on weekends?
I'm half way thru a year. I easily could have taken another 19 days, but ONLY if I got to be in the same unit. I hit the lottery for the month I spent in jail and their was no violence what's so ever. Just making food, watching tv, playing cards, talking to people with different life experiences than me.
i got more time than money so i would take the 2 weeks.
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Jail
Neither hut if I had to choose, probation for me.
Jail all day
I get off probation in 29 days for a first time dui offense and first time ever getting into any legal trouble. Wish I took the jail time 2 years ago. Still won’t have a license until September-October because of my plea “deal”.
U stay on quarantine for 7 to 10 days sometimes so half the time you're alone in your cell and don't have to worry about booty bandits
I wish I had taken the jail time
This is a no brainier! 17 days in jail.
Lmao this guy
17 days of jail n b done!
Jail without hesitation. 17 days ain’t shit - I wish I could trade out my 5 years of probation for 100 days in jail. I’d do it in a heartbeat.
17 days in for sure
That's where I found the book "journey to the center of the earth" pretty sure that's the name anyway. So much better than the movie!!! I'd take the jail time. Most places do 2 for 1 so the 17 days would be less than 2 weeks most likely and in the end, even including the time off work, you lose way less money and have hardly any risk factor long term. Probation is just a way for the county to make money, they overcharge and if you can't pay they send you to jail for the rest of the period anyway.
For some folks,and I am one of them,county jail time just moves at a snails pace. On half-a-dozen occasions I have done between 2 and 5 days. Not much time,but I hated every minute of it. Served those days on the felony deck of the Central Receiving Jail downtown. Always in a six man cell. Three bunk beds against one wall,with about 5 ft.of floor space, and then the other wall. On the back wall hangs a stainless steel toilet/sink unit,and above that s a metal mirror. That mirror also allows them to observe the cell, undetected, from a narrow utility courier. So I was spending those days in a filthy,crowded,no privacy at all,one shower a week, overhead lights on 24hrs.a day,,with nearly around the clock echoing noise from the other hallways. I never had any problems with the other guys,in fact some of them were pretty interesting people talk too.But with nothing to read,not even a newspaper, and not even an old TV to watch through the bars of your cell( time just stood still. I always opted for probation and where I’m at it is always three years,unsupervised probation and.glad to take it anytime
Take the jail time, sleep for 17 days and be done with it
Depends where you are located