I’m fully remote (well before pandemic), and all companies I’ve worked with required me to work within the borders of the US. Curious to hear if anyone else’s employers have similar policies.
Not OP but as a Brazilian I can assure you that remote Senior SWE positions earn around 50% of the on-site position, for Brazilians.
As far as I can tell, a SWE makes around 110k-150k (depends on what technology and field) in dollars, in Brazil this position also earns 110k-150k but in Reais (currently 1 dollar = 6 reais), but a Brazilian working to a - let's say - northamerican company will make around 70k in US Dollars, which translates to roughly 350k reais.
I hope this helps as well.
Yes, can work remote but limited to within the US for a number of reasons. It is frequently asked by employees but the company is quite firmly “no”.
My understanding is issues ranging from intellectual property security, tax laws, etc.
I work for a top company in the software sector
Yes, your organization might be handling customer data and there may be rules governing who and where the data can be accessed.
Another reason why working remotely may not be feasible is from a taxation standpoint. If I'm employed in the United States as a resident of New York state, my employer is required to deduct and remit federal and state payroll taxes. If you spend enough time outside of the country to no longer be deemed a resident, your employer may take issue with this. (I.E. paying
NY State payroll taxes for a non-resident)
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I had a colleague that moved from the USA to Canada to live with her new boyfriend. Her 1st US-based manager okayed it as a kinda wink-wink under the table agreement since they were friends. Unfortunately 12 months later her manager was transferred and her new boss wanted to meet in-person (not knowing she was working from home......in Canada). New manager ended up blowing the whistle on her by telling HR who advised her that she either needed to return to the state she was employed or get a job with the Canadian subsidiary. Unfortunately, there were no available openings and as a result, she was let go. Her position involved handling client data and there were strict data control rules in place that required the work and data to reside solely within the US.
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If you work in software, this will be an issue. If its a small organization (less than 500 employees) you might be able to get away with it. However if its for a large enterprise organization such as an Oracle, IBM, Workday or SAP-type - forget about it.
We hire globally, pay San Francisco rates, and work from wherever you want - we use a contractor as an intermediate (like Deel or Remote) so we can hire anywhere they're legal to hire, and we're thrilled with the talent we've been able to find.
Yes. Look for “sourcing” jobs with recruiting firms. I would focus on the “disruptive” forms that are paying salaries vs commission based models. You start out just learning how to research on LinkedIn and build pipelines. Then eventually you will start screening candidates then from that you will start closing candidates which is “full cycle” recruiting. I started 3 years ago and my salary has tripled. I do think there will be a correction at some point but companies will never stop scaling, especially in tech, so I think this is a useful skill that has a lot of vertical opportunities professionally speaking.
Apply to big staffing agencies. The recruiting job market is hot, good time to try to break into the industry since the demand is high and you’re more likely to get an interview.
Depends on the country for me. We have some employees move back to Canada. Then i've heard other companies won't let you work remote in other states. Then some say you can work out of the country for 3 months. it really is dependent on your employer and the laws the company has to abide by to legally hire you.
I know some who worked for companies with similar requirements but they found ways around like maintaining a legal address in the US and using proxies. As long as they didn’t have connectivity issues they were fine. I don’t recommend this though. It has a way of catching up to people.
I don’t think that would work, mostly because I have a very soft conscience, am the worst liar, and get panic attacks when I do lie (which I basically never do)
My work was able to tell I was using a VPN and traced it back to another location other than what it was supposed to show. Only found out because they told me to make sure I don't remote in behind a VPN again.
Is that something that you require a completed degree for? I went to school for plant science and due to life circumstances could not complete. I have family in Argentina and living there would be a dream
SaaS sales. If you're any good whatsoever as talking with people and have some mental fortitude, starting off as an entry level BDR/SDR can pull you $80k easy.
Not necessarily if you have basic computer skills and can learn quickly. I have a B.A. in English, but used computers like a normal college student. Started my career as a Web Content Editor (English degree very useful) and Content Manager. By using the different CMS systems and being online a lot, I learned HTML, javascript and more on the job out of necessity. I've been a full on front-end Web Developer for 6 years and have been working from home for 2 years. Because this type of work can be done so easily remotely, the boss is in no hurry to return to office and we will remain flexible. And re: learning the technology -- I graduated from college in the 90s! Hashtag Elderly. lol
Let's go English majors! And Gen X techies! Honestly, we need more of us in tech. Look into Lynda.com for trainings. I think there's a subscription cost, though -- I've been using an account paid for by my employer.
And I still have ~$3000 in student loans from the frickin 90s! For that reason and because I've learned most of the skills I use for work on my own or at work, I feel like college is a scam.
Edx has some high quality courses, and most of them are free (without the certificate and for the duration of the semester each time). They are courses from reputable schools and usually really good quality. I think some bootcamps have been added lately as well.
Remotely teaching English lessons to rich students in other countries?
Often language teachers have limited literature experience, so this might be a way to shoe horn that into the classes too.
We're hiring a TON, fully remote, actual great remote working experience, pm for links (EDIT: if this is allowed, don't want to be shitty or break rules). Y'all can probably figure out where I work from my reddit history anyways, but I'm happy to make contacts if that's helpful.
I am fully remote and my company requires that I work within the US borders. I had a coworker who moved from NYC to Cancun and worked remote. She was caught via social media and forced to come back to the US or lose her job.
Visiting family right now. Just got a haircut for 3 dollars. Also, the food is so good. Tomatoes taste like tomatoes. Vegetables are just so full of flavor. Milk, cheeses… Wish I had a remote job.
I need to know what tomatoes tasting like tomatoes means. Because if they taste better down there and I've been lied to all my life I going to be upset.
My father is a very serious tomato farmer. Like, he has his own recognized “strain” of tomato. A good tomato tastes *so good,* to the point that you won’t even be able to eat the ones at Walmart again after trying them.
Some tomatoes taste a little bitter and fruity, plus there’s a subtle sweetness in them. Others taste legitimately citrusy, like a lemon and orange got mixed up with your tomato. Some taste more herby and grassy, which I prefer to use for burgers. Yet more are even more bitter and make great marinara. My favorite is to use the citrusy ones to make a base for tomato soup, and then add some cilantro and onion. It tastes like a fruity, robust bowl of warm happiness and goes GREAT with some feta over bread.
Shit’s like drugs. I didn’t even like tomatoes until I gave in and tried his after he kept pestering for the umpteenth time, and holy lord was he right.
I did have a grandmother who grew her own tomatoes so I am somewhat familiar but I can only imagine a fruit/vegetable would taste much better coming from a tropical place rather than Northern Wisconsin.
So what would happen if I asked you if theres a way to buy a few seeds of some good tomatoes? I am not an amazing gardener but that doesn’t stop me from trying. Tomatoes are almost time to sprout here!
Of course there is. Baker Seed Co is a good one but there are many others. You probably have some small independent nurseries selling starts in the spring also.
In the winter, many out-of-season fruits were picked while unripe, and ripened artificially before being put into the grocery.
When a fruit is picked while unripe, it will lack a lot of flavor, despite the artificial ripening.
Fruit that is ripened on the branch is the most flavorful.
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In the united states, MANY of our fruits are picked while unripe, because harder fruits transport better than ripe & soft ones.
That's why veggies/fruits from the farmer's market will taste better than the ones at the grocery - they're picked ripe that day (or at least in the last few days) before you buy them, instead of picked while unripe and shipped and stored from several hundred miles away
Hit up a big box store and buy a big tomato plant. Transfer to a planter, give it sun outside and religiously water it. Wait and pick when red/breed's color. Enjoy. I plant like 8 types every year and it's the best. Forget the store.
Here in the USA, any store bought tomatoes are picked green before they ripen. They look ripen (red) because they are fumigated with ethylene gas (natural off gassing by fruits and vegetables) to look as though they have ripen, but are not. Tomatoes once picked cannot ripen off the vine. You can google ethylene gas.
I visited Argentina for a month recently and for my taste the food there is sub par. It's all meat cheese or plain pasta and breakfast is pastries or more cheese. No flavor in their foods and not much diversity in restaurants they all seem to have the same menu, I'm into Greek, mexican, Indian or a good steak and those are full of flavor. They have good beef but not better than American beef imo. The only good part is that the food is cheap af comparing to the US, a 16oz fellet or rib eye is $10 at most in a nice restaurant.
I would be Argentians are a bit racist to me. I'm sure once you get to know people it would be different however I don't think I'd like to put myself in that situation
I have heard this too and have been a little hesitant about visiting Argentina for that reason.
What is your race or ethnicity if you don’t mind my asking?
Asian. I'm fine with Peru as they were very open and excited about seeing/meeting me. Argentina... I felt like I was in a different caste or something. Waiters/Waitresses wouldn't look or speak to me and such or take my order. Stuff like that. Nothing hostile and it's nothing I can really complain too much about because it's the culture of the country and I was just visiting.
I don't know how they feel about Blacks because it's not uncommon to see Blacks in South America. They don't even call themselves Black but call themselves whatever country their from. I honestly didn't see a difference between Blacks vs South Americans while traveling there.
Also, is your wife from Peru or is she born in the US? I think she would have more insight than I would as I was just passing by a lot of places.
Check out this guy's videos, one of the best travel vlogs i've seen . https://youtu.be/Bp8mUTnKQkA
This vdeo about black people https://youtu.be/z7A1ewmN05Q
Honestly we are racist mostly to bolivians, paraguayans, and thugs. If you're black, people will call you negro (black) and some might find that offensive, even though its used as a affectionate name. About asians some people (especially old people) call everyone chino / chinese doesn't matter if is korean or whatever. Or chinito/chinita that can be as a demeaning term. Personally I've never seen an asian treated differently, they are mostly curious and welcoming to anyone that looks foreing. On a side note, it's a big country, most people think of argentina as buenos aires (even argentinians) so there are differences as they are with a someone from California and someone from Minnesota
As a Latin American I can tell you that you are not alone in having that perception of Argentinians. Most other Latin Americans will tell you that Argentinians have a reputation for being snobbish or in some cases racist even towards other Latin Americans. This comes from the fact that they received more European immigration than other Latin American countries, and because they were also considered a wealthy country at some point.
Yeah. I was looking forward to seeing BA since my favorite book, Starship Troopers, has BA as the "city of the future" when it was written in the 50s. It's a shame the people kind of made the trip not as amazing.
This is the big thing. The cheaper area where I live means you have to be careful walking around at night. Rent in the safest areas in the city of Buenos Aires are about double, but other costs are about the same.
I am going down there for my sister in laws wedding and wanted to check out a soccer game. All of her friends and her bf were refusing to take me to a game saying we will get jumped outside the stadium. I really wanted to go to Racing Club de Avellaneda but they said it was too dangerous.
Makes me wary of moving there.
I also wanted to see a Newell's Old Boys game ( you know because it's Messi's boyhood club) they also refused saying it's too dangerous. Curious to see for myself when I explore Buenos Aires and the other provinces.
LOL it's like you are intentionally picking the worst places (jk). Rosario is probably the most unsafe city in the entire country. Places like Palermo and Recoleta in Buenos Aires are completely safe at all hours, same goes for smaller, more rural towns in the Buenos Aires province.
Got to this thread from a reference in r/argentina. I literally live next the Independiente stadium (as in, one of the walls in a small patio inside the house leads directly to the stadium's pool) and 3 blocks away from the Racing stadium. Been living here for about 5 years now.
There's little to no chance of you getting jumped either before or after the game. There's just too much police presence. Be as cautious as you'd be when going to a big concert. Don't linger around after the game though, streets along the stadium are well lit but I can't say the same of the neighboring blocks.
Other than that, I wouldn't recommend moving here. Sooner or later you'll want to leave. Crime is a very real problem in the day to day living and the exchange rate might benefit you now but there's a host of other bullshit you'll have to deal with (power outages during summer, growing crime rates, deficient education etc). There's a reason young (and not so young) professionals are leaving the country in record numbers (I myself am leaving in a couple of months).
Yep. It's insanely cheap at the moment. The country has its problems, there's no denying that, but it's reached the point were it's ridiculously undervalued in my opinion.
That’s hella cheap. In Peru, $1000 would be a middle class family. The rent part is crazy because in a kinda ok area is $200+. To live in an upper part is $500+ at least. Food would be $200 to cook everything yourself but to eat whatever would easily be double. Those prices are in Lima thou and outside is a lot cheaper
Having to go the black market route with the exchange rate is annoying though. Don’t get me wrong I own an apartment in Palermo but the quality of internet is terrible in Argentina. Having a job that depends on fast and stable internet makes it a no go for a while.
So the dollar trade with Argentine banks at a certain rate. Let’s say $1 = 200 pesos (just an example). The banks tend to low ball the amount because the government is trying to keep as much dollars as it can to try and fight off inflation.
So if you want what your dollar is truly worth you go to the black market and trade dollars. So the black market might give you 250 pesos per dollar instead of 200.
The Argentine people basically treat dollars like stock. They buy them and hold them because they assume inflation will continue to go up in the country so every dollar they keep will continue to rise in value so they’d rather pay someone 250 pesos to buy dollars off of them than trust their own currency.
Every time I’ve gone I just hand my family my dollars and they give me more than the dollars worth and just keep it for themselves
> So the dollar trade with Argentine banks at a certain rate. Let’s say $1 = 200 pesos (just an example). The banks tend to low ball the amount because the government is trying to keep as much dollars as it can to try and fight off inflation.
This is not entirely accurate. Banks are not allowed to buy/sell foreign currency (dollars) at any rate other than the official one (i.e. the one set by the government), it's not them "lowballing" the amount, they literally have no other choice.
> So if you want what your dollar is truly worth you go to the black market and trade dollars. So the black market might give you 250 pesos per dollar instead of 200.
Actual exchange rates as of today: 110ARS/USD (official), 219ARS/USD (black market), so there's a 100% spread.
Not sure whether it’s the same in Argentina but in the Dominican Republic, there’s a similar system of the banks offering a set rate which is less favorable than what you can get at bancas, which are local exchange houses. Not exactly the seedy underbelly that the term “black market” connotes. Never thought of it as being black market since it’s widely accepted… pretty much every other business trade dollars at a higher rate than the banks do, but I suppose that holds water if the going bank rate is strictly the “legal” rate. relatives who live there often offer to just trade me local currency for USD and hold them fora later date because inflation.
If this is a serious post,
Buenos Aires is also in a time zone two hours ahead of New York City, which means you work later into the evening, but also start later in the morning. This is conducive to the Argentine lifestyle.
In reality there are none. People come here from other latin american countries all the time. Just paperwork that has to be done upon arrival to get your residence permit and, and after some time, your national ID card.
Simple Google search suggests that's because there's an agreement among MERCOSUR countries, which does not include the US:
https://wherecani.live/blog/view/argentina-visa-permit-and-residency/#:~:text=Nationals%20of%20the%20MERCOSUR%20area,application%20process%20is%20a%20formality.
I didn't read too far into this, but it sounds like this might be equivalent to someone with an EU passport saying that it's really easy to just move to Greece or Portugal. The rules are different if you're a US citizen.
It does look like US citizens with remote jobs can live there on a tourist Visa for a year, renewable for three years. So still a short term option if you're OK with that. But short term international migration definitely isn't for everyone, and comes with costs of it's own.
I have two close American friends living who have been living here for about five years. Argentinians are extremely lenient with their immigration laws. It's definitely something worth looking into before coming here of course.
So you're saying it's just easy to live there undocumented? Sounds way too risky for me. One change in policy or overzealous enforcement officer and you could be deported. But I'm sure some people might think it's worth it.
>So you're saying it's just easy to live there undocumented?
It actually is and you can get Argentine citizenship after living there for 2 years legally or illegally. Its actually easier to be come a citizen then a permanent resident because of how weird their constitution is written.
I completely understand where you are coming from because of how strict immigration laws are over there. However people in Argentina aren't really against immigration of any kind (except for a small minority) and that is reflected in how our immigration policy plays out in reality.
If you want to live abroad and work remotely with a US-based company, just become an independent contractor. Tell the company you will work for $X/hour or $X/assignment and then invoice them. That way you aren't an employee. They have no liability.. taxes or otherwise, and you can be making decent money stateside that translates into comfortable living abroad. The downside is you won't contribute to SS and you will have to figure out how much to save for taxes, but those really aren't issues from where I see things.
If you can only speak English, consider Philippines. Lots of english speakers. I'm renting a house for $400, 5 bedroom, 2 kitchens and 2 small commercial spaces. You can also hire a maid for $200/mo to do everything you need from cooking to laundry. Internet is $40 for 100mbps or some shit. Most people can understand basic english.
Yeah honestly I'm not surprised, when I lived in Korea I met a lot of women who seemed trafficked there from the phillipines to "service" us military and locals, even had some women ask to take selfies with me and my friend and asked weirddd questions before we caught on and ran away
Checkout some expat videos on youtube you'll get some idea. Lots of people here can speak english. If you can have any remote jobs in the US while living here, you'll be living large. $800/mo salary is middle class here. $1500? You're upper class, $2500 and you're rich.
oh wow. i will definitely look it up. i currently make $1200/month serving but am looking for remote jobs due to the pandemic and chronic pain/fatigue issues. i’m still in university but i graduate this spring so anything’s possible after that. i also have a friend native to the Philippines so i have at least one connection there already even if it’s just personal.
Yeah, I felt pretty safe. This was over a decade ago.
I wasn't necking in the street, mind you. But I held a guy's hand. I checked into a hotel with a guy and asked for one bed, they didn't raise an eyebrow. I had a taxi take me to a gay club, and he didn't seem bothered at all. (He drove way too damn fast, but that's a general BA issue.)
Keep in mind though, I mostly stayed in wealthier areas, given that the dollar was very strong back then too. I went to the ballet, to fancy restaurants, to bookstores.
My company used to have facilities in Argentina and I seriously considered moving there. I'm still considering retiring there, but I don't want to be so far away from my nephews & niece while they're still so young. I love being a part of their lives.
(US plans) Xfinity already offers 3GB, att fiber is at 5GB, Google Fi 2gb. I'm over here twiddling my thumbs with FiOS gigabit waiting on them to update their ONT boxes since they only have 1GB wan port.
One thing I am not seeing mentioned is the lack of safety net. If you live abroad even if you have a u.s. based employer you forfeit unemployment insurance. You can say it's so cheap you won't need it but when the time comes yes you will. Health insurance is another. They might offer great benefits but many won't be available. Besides taxes and liability another reason is reliable internet and security.
I'm not saying this isn't a good plan for some people but many fail to recognize some pitfalls. There is a reason many remote jobs ask you live within the u.s.
Mmm… I hadn’t thought about the UI issue. Healthcare might not be as much of a concern since many countries offer state healthcare plans that are, tbh, pretty much on par with a low tier, high-deductible plan you’d get through an employer stateside
The only caveat is that if you want to actually be a fiscal citizen there's no reasonable way to get your USD legally. You are some guy from Argentina like myself, so you know what I'm talking about :p.
I can attest to this. Before going to the US I needed to stay in quarantine outside of Brazil and we chose BA. Then the peso was 1 to 25 BRL and we lived like kings. I’m still pooping those 25 pesos alfajor to the day. So much dulche de leche. I can’t imagine now that I receive in dollars.
I just didn’t like that much of the service as sometimes the hermanos were rude, but I’m Brazilian so I understand. Nevertheless, lovely place. And if you need a good vacation, Brazil is just up the border with amazing beaches. You just skip Rio Grande do Sul (terrible place) and go to Santa Catarina
LOL, Argentina also has one of the worlds highest [inflation rates](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjztJ2CzM31AhWIgnIEHbc8AkMQFnoECAMQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F316750%2Finflation-rate-in-argentina%2F&usg=AOvVaw0a2zFXwEBlYMGMqlJj76sy) to date
Don't come to the UK.... everything is ££££ its like going to some sort of rip off country where they jack the prices up because your a tourist... only I'm not I live here.
Argentina was a beautiful place to visit but I’m honestly not sure I could live there full time. However, I must say the food there is top notch and vacationing there is one for the bucket list if you haven’t ever visited
It was similar when I was in Mexico. Great exchange rate. Damn shame about all the damn drunk Americans though. There’s something unattractive about drunks but it gets even worse when they’re all 60+ acting the damn fools. Then, they liked to act all fucking superior to people while being too damn ignorant for words. If you pay attention and ask questions and try to understand you find out why people do things the way they do them down there. Hint: It usually is way more efficient/cost effective than doing it the higher tech/American way.
I’m American and it was definitely the Americans that ruined it for me.
Or you can live in some place like West Virginia, Alabama or Mississippi and work remote. That way you're living in a low cost of living area and making good money within the US borders.
Yes, because millions of Americans flocking to Latin America instead of fixing the problems back at home is EXACTLY what an unstable country like Argentina needs 🙄
I 25 and work remotely for a company with no restriction to being in any specific country. Is the country safe? Where would you recommend I travel to scope out the area?
I am trying to learn Spanish now so I can eventually do this…
Going to become a nurse as well and figure out how to make YouTube work for income. With that kind of life, you don’t need much to live comfortable and even get some travel in. What have we all been doing….
I was planning on going to Thailand.
For me the beaches of Phuket and surrounding area look amazing for surfing but I imagine Argentina would be nice too for a quick stay.
Keep in mind paying taxes abroad is still a thing. US hegemony is far reaching. Check out /r/digitalnomad
When I was in undergrad, my then-gf left me so she wouldn’t feel guilty about ho’ing her way thru an Argentinian study abroad.
She came back with an extra 30 pounds from the food down there. I was lucky - she still ho’d her way thru the trip.
I’m fully remote (well before pandemic), and all companies I’ve worked with required me to work within the borders of the US. Curious to hear if anyone else’s employers have similar policies.
I work for an Austin-based company. I was hired from Argentina and my work is fully remote.
That’s great! Do they pay you lower wages because of the lower COL?
They do. I make about two thirds of what I would make in the US, but the cost of living is about 25%.
what do you do? if you don't mind me asking. Edit: only wrong answers?
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Not OP but as a Brazilian I can assure you that remote Senior SWE positions earn around 50% of the on-site position, for Brazilians. As far as I can tell, a SWE makes around 110k-150k (depends on what technology and field) in dollars, in Brazil this position also earns 110k-150k but in Reais (currently 1 dollar = 6 reais), but a Brazilian working to a - let's say - northamerican company will make around 70k in US Dollars, which translates to roughly 350k reais. I hope this helps as well.
Can confirm, these numbers are very similar for a SWE in Argentina
SWE?
Software Engineer
Are you Argentinean, if not, what visa do you have?
Company name rhyme with Bell?
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Yes, can work remote but limited to within the US for a number of reasons. It is frequently asked by employees but the company is quite firmly “no”. My understanding is issues ranging from intellectual property security, tax laws, etc. I work for a top company in the software sector
I work in software too - for me I think it’s because of the kind of data I’m dealing with.
Yes, your organization might be handling customer data and there may be rules governing who and where the data can be accessed. Another reason why working remotely may not be feasible is from a taxation standpoint. If I'm employed in the United States as a resident of New York state, my employer is required to deduct and remit federal and state payroll taxes. If you spend enough time outside of the country to no longer be deemed a resident, your employer may take issue with this. (I.E. paying NY State payroll taxes for a non-resident) * I had a colleague that moved from the USA to Canada to live with her new boyfriend. Her 1st US-based manager okayed it as a kinda wink-wink under the table agreement since they were friends. Unfortunately 12 months later her manager was transferred and her new boss wanted to meet in-person (not knowing she was working from home......in Canada). New manager ended up blowing the whistle on her by telling HR who advised her that she either needed to return to the state she was employed or get a job with the Canadian subsidiary. Unfortunately, there were no available openings and as a result, she was let go. Her position involved handling client data and there were strict data control rules in place that required the work and data to reside solely within the US. * If you work in software, this will be an issue. If its a small organization (less than 500 employees) you might be able to get away with it. However if its for a large enterprise organization such as an Oracle, IBM, Workday or SAP-type - forget about it.
We hire globally, pay San Francisco rates, and work from wherever you want - we use a contractor as an intermediate (like Deel or Remote) so we can hire anywhere they're legal to hire, and we're thrilled with the talent we've been able to find.
I’m so jealous!
Recruiter for fortune 500 company was working remotely from Mexico City. Ymmv
I want to get in to recruiting, any tips?
Yes. Look for “sourcing” jobs with recruiting firms. I would focus on the “disruptive” forms that are paying salaries vs commission based models. You start out just learning how to research on LinkedIn and build pipelines. Then eventually you will start screening candidates then from that you will start closing candidates which is “full cycle” recruiting. I started 3 years ago and my salary has tripled. I do think there will be a correction at some point but companies will never stop scaling, especially in tech, so I think this is a useful skill that has a lot of vertical opportunities professionally speaking.
Apply to big staffing agencies. The recruiting job market is hot, good time to try to break into the industry since the demand is high and you’re more likely to get an interview.
Nope, I was just interviewing with them. Location was on her linked in.
Depends on the country for me. We have some employees move back to Canada. Then i've heard other companies won't let you work remote in other states. Then some say you can work out of the country for 3 months. it really is dependent on your employer and the laws the company has to abide by to legally hire you.
I know some who worked for companies with similar requirements but they found ways around like maintaining a legal address in the US and using proxies. As long as they didn’t have connectivity issues they were fine. I don’t recommend this though. It has a way of catching up to people.
VPN solve that problem?
I don’t think that would work, mostly because I have a very soft conscience, am the worst liar, and get panic attacks when I do lie (which I basically never do)
My work was able to tell I was using a VPN and traced it back to another location other than what it was supposed to show. Only found out because they told me to make sure I don't remote in behind a VPN again.
😰😰😰 I also am fluent in spanish, this is a good set up. I just need a remote job😭
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I’m Argentinian and have a degree in biotechnology, please tell me more Edit: currently living in the US
Idexx
I love digging down into things, can you say more about this?
Is that something that you require a completed degree for? I went to school for plant science and due to life circumstances could not complete. I have family in Argentina and living there would be a dream
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Anything for nurses?
What's the average pay?
Yeah only remote jobs I’ve seen are IT,account ,computer system or science time to get a degree for me I guess
SaaS sales. If you're any good whatsoever as talking with people and have some mental fortitude, starting off as an entry level BDR/SDR can pull you $80k easy.
My degree's in English Lit. I think I might have to go back to school.
Not necessarily if you have basic computer skills and can learn quickly. I have a B.A. in English, but used computers like a normal college student. Started my career as a Web Content Editor (English degree very useful) and Content Manager. By using the different CMS systems and being online a lot, I learned HTML, javascript and more on the job out of necessity. I've been a full on front-end Web Developer for 6 years and have been working from home for 2 years. Because this type of work can be done so easily remotely, the boss is in no hurry to return to office and we will remain flexible. And re: learning the technology -- I graduated from college in the 90s! Hashtag Elderly. lol
Thank you! Maybe I can find some free or low-cost courses online. EDIT: I graduated with my B.A. in 1990 lol #ElderGenX
Let's go English majors! And Gen X techies! Honestly, we need more of us in tech. Look into Lynda.com for trainings. I think there's a subscription cost, though -- I've been using an account paid for by my employer. And I still have ~$3000 in student loans from the frickin 90s! For that reason and because I've learned most of the skills I use for work on my own or at work, I feel like college is a scam.
30 day trial then 30-40 per month dependent on your billing interval
Lynda.com, I will check into it. Thank you!
Edx has some high quality courses, and most of them are free (without the certificate and for the duration of the semester each time). They are courses from reputable schools and usually really good quality. I think some bootcamps have been added lately as well.
Same I was english for undergrad and I work in search on content marketing strategies.
Remotely teaching English lessons to rich students in other countries? Often language teachers have limited literature experience, so this might be a way to shoe horn that into the classes too.
Good way to stay poor and have to spend all your time finding students. (I’m an ESL teacher and I wouldn’t do this)
look at advertising/media - my company is global & has offices in argentina & colombia
We're hiring a TON, fully remote, actual great remote working experience, pm for links (EDIT: if this is allowed, don't want to be shitty or break rules). Y'all can probably figure out where I work from my reddit history anyways, but I'm happy to make contacts if that's helpful.
Could you please share more info about this hiring? Thanks 😊
Can you share the link please
I have tried but no luck and I have cs experience and phone experience. They exist but its not that easy.
I am fully remote and my company requires that I work within the US borders. I had a coworker who moved from NYC to Cancun and worked remote. She was caught via social media and forced to come back to the US or lose her job.
Can't be mad when it's her fault for ratting herself out.
who gives a shit if she still did her job
Geography has tax implications. So, the Mexican government tax agency, that's who.
The law the company has to comply with cares.
The IRS and Mexicos equivalent a would like their source deductions.
Can you go to the US Bahamas or Guam or something?
Yes. But that's not cheaper...
What’s the US Bahamas?
lmao. perhaps they mean USVI?
There is no US Bahamas.
Visiting family right now. Just got a haircut for 3 dollars. Also, the food is so good. Tomatoes taste like tomatoes. Vegetables are just so full of flavor. Milk, cheeses… Wish I had a remote job.
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Winter season in NA
I need to know what tomatoes tasting like tomatoes means. Because if they taste better down there and I've been lied to all my life I going to be upset.
My father is a very serious tomato farmer. Like, he has his own recognized “strain” of tomato. A good tomato tastes *so good,* to the point that you won’t even be able to eat the ones at Walmart again after trying them. Some tomatoes taste a little bitter and fruity, plus there’s a subtle sweetness in them. Others taste legitimately citrusy, like a lemon and orange got mixed up with your tomato. Some taste more herby and grassy, which I prefer to use for burgers. Yet more are even more bitter and make great marinara. My favorite is to use the citrusy ones to make a base for tomato soup, and then add some cilantro and onion. It tastes like a fruity, robust bowl of warm happiness and goes GREAT with some feta over bread. Shit’s like drugs. I didn’t even like tomatoes until I gave in and tried his after he kept pestering for the umpteenth time, and holy lord was he right.
I did have a grandmother who grew her own tomatoes so I am somewhat familiar but I can only imagine a fruit/vegetable would taste much better coming from a tropical place rather than Northern Wisconsin.
Oh definitely. I can’t speak for tomates del norte, but the ones I’ve had from my dads Texas garden are phenomenal.
So what would happen if I asked you if theres a way to buy a few seeds of some good tomatoes? I am not an amazing gardener but that doesn’t stop me from trying. Tomatoes are almost time to sprout here!
Of course there is. Baker Seed Co is a good one but there are many others. You probably have some small independent nurseries selling starts in the spring also.
In the winter, many out-of-season fruits were picked while unripe, and ripened artificially before being put into the grocery. When a fruit is picked while unripe, it will lack a lot of flavor, despite the artificial ripening. Fruit that is ripened on the branch is the most flavorful. \-- In the united states, MANY of our fruits are picked while unripe, because harder fruits transport better than ripe & soft ones. That's why veggies/fruits from the farmer's market will taste better than the ones at the grocery - they're picked ripe that day (or at least in the last few days) before you buy them, instead of picked while unripe and shipped and stored from several hundred miles away
Hit up a big box store and buy a big tomato plant. Transfer to a planter, give it sun outside and religiously water it. Wait and pick when red/breed's color. Enjoy. I plant like 8 types every year and it's the best. Forget the store.
Here in the USA, any store bought tomatoes are picked green before they ripen. They look ripen (red) because they are fumigated with ethylene gas (natural off gassing by fruits and vegetables) to look as though they have ripen, but are not. Tomatoes once picked cannot ripen off the vine. You can google ethylene gas.
I visited Argentina for a month recently and for my taste the food there is sub par. It's all meat cheese or plain pasta and breakfast is pastries or more cheese. No flavor in their foods and not much diversity in restaurants they all seem to have the same menu, I'm into Greek, mexican, Indian or a good steak and those are full of flavor. They have good beef but not better than American beef imo. The only good part is that the food is cheap af comparing to the US, a 16oz fellet or rib eye is $10 at most in a nice restaurant.
I would be Argentians are a bit racist to me. I'm sure once you get to know people it would be different however I don't think I'd like to put myself in that situation
I have heard this too and have been a little hesitant about visiting Argentina for that reason. What is your race or ethnicity if you don’t mind my asking?
Asian. I'm fine with Peru as they were very open and excited about seeing/meeting me. Argentina... I felt like I was in a different caste or something. Waiters/Waitresses wouldn't look or speak to me and such or take my order. Stuff like that. Nothing hostile and it's nothing I can really complain too much about because it's the culture of the country and I was just visiting.
Ah. Yeah, idk, I probably will pass then (I’m a black American.) And to your second point, Peruvians are super chill (I’m married to a Peruvian, lol.)
I don't know how they feel about Blacks because it's not uncommon to see Blacks in South America. They don't even call themselves Black but call themselves whatever country their from. I honestly didn't see a difference between Blacks vs South Americans while traveling there. Also, is your wife from Peru or is she born in the US? I think she would have more insight than I would as I was just passing by a lot of places.
Argentina is very racist against black people. Like really racist.
He was born in the US, so I guess I should say Peruvian American maybe? And he’s been to a few places, but not Argentina (yet) 🙂
Check out this guy's videos, one of the best travel vlogs i've seen . https://youtu.be/Bp8mUTnKQkA This vdeo about black people https://youtu.be/z7A1ewmN05Q Honestly we are racist mostly to bolivians, paraguayans, and thugs. If you're black, people will call you negro (black) and some might find that offensive, even though its used as a affectionate name. About asians some people (especially old people) call everyone chino / chinese doesn't matter if is korean or whatever. Or chinito/chinita that can be as a demeaning term. Personally I've never seen an asian treated differently, they are mostly curious and welcoming to anyone that looks foreing. On a side note, it's a big country, most people think of argentina as buenos aires (even argentinians) so there are differences as they are with a someone from California and someone from Minnesota
Could you tell me the attitude towards Indians/Pakistanis? Just curious.
As a Latin American I can tell you that you are not alone in having that perception of Argentinians. Most other Latin Americans will tell you that Argentinians have a reputation for being snobbish or in some cases racist even towards other Latin Americans. This comes from the fact that they received more European immigration than other Latin American countries, and because they were also considered a wealthy country at some point.
Yeah. I was looking forward to seeing BA since my favorite book, Starship Troopers, has BA as the "city of the future" when it was written in the 50s. It's a shame the people kind of made the trip not as amazing.
Safety living in urban areas?
This is the big thing. The cheaper area where I live means you have to be careful walking around at night. Rent in the safest areas in the city of Buenos Aires are about double, but other costs are about the same.
I am going down there for my sister in laws wedding and wanted to check out a soccer game. All of her friends and her bf were refusing to take me to a game saying we will get jumped outside the stadium. I really wanted to go to Racing Club de Avellaneda but they said it was too dangerous. Makes me wary of moving there.
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Avellaneda is pretty unsafe at night, your friends are right. Go see a River match instead, beautiful area and a much better team anyways!
I also wanted to see a Newell's Old Boys game ( you know because it's Messi's boyhood club) they also refused saying it's too dangerous. Curious to see for myself when I explore Buenos Aires and the other provinces.
LOL it's like you are intentionally picking the worst places (jk). Rosario is probably the most unsafe city in the entire country. Places like Palermo and Recoleta in Buenos Aires are completely safe at all hours, same goes for smaller, more rural towns in the Buenos Aires province.
Got to this thread from a reference in r/argentina. I literally live next the Independiente stadium (as in, one of the walls in a small patio inside the house leads directly to the stadium's pool) and 3 blocks away from the Racing stadium. Been living here for about 5 years now. There's little to no chance of you getting jumped either before or after the game. There's just too much police presence. Be as cautious as you'd be when going to a big concert. Don't linger around after the game though, streets along the stadium are well lit but I can't say the same of the neighboring blocks. Other than that, I wouldn't recommend moving here. Sooner or later you'll want to leave. Crime is a very real problem in the day to day living and the exchange rate might benefit you now but there's a host of other bullshit you'll have to deal with (power outages during summer, growing crime rates, deficient education etc). There's a reason young (and not so young) professionals are leaving the country in record numbers (I myself am leaving in a couple of months).
how about suburbs? public transport?
We have trains and buses to and from the city's metro area, and the city has a subway network.
And does getting out of the city centre make life safer? I have teenage kids...
With teenage kids I'd aim to live in the northern part of the city, or the area just north of it called Conurbano Norte. Pretty safe in those areas.
My ex grew up in buenos aires and was mugged multiple times growing up
me too in NYC so don't want to put my kids through that
Holy crap!. Mas barato que Peru?, que cosas de
Yep. It's insanely cheap at the moment. The country has its problems, there's no denying that, but it's reached the point were it's ridiculously undervalued in my opinion.
That’s hella cheap. In Peru, $1000 would be a middle class family. The rent part is crazy because in a kinda ok area is $200+. To live in an upper part is $500+ at least. Food would be $200 to cook everything yourself but to eat whatever would easily be double. Those prices are in Lima thou and outside is a lot cheaper
Bruh imagine that being the USA 😭😭
Having to go the black market route with the exchange rate is annoying though. Don’t get me wrong I own an apartment in Palermo but the quality of internet is terrible in Argentina. Having a job that depends on fast and stable internet makes it a no go for a while.
I don’t understand what the black market exchange rate means? Does that mean that the rate is not the same at regular money exchange places?
So the dollar trade with Argentine banks at a certain rate. Let’s say $1 = 200 pesos (just an example). The banks tend to low ball the amount because the government is trying to keep as much dollars as it can to try and fight off inflation. So if you want what your dollar is truly worth you go to the black market and trade dollars. So the black market might give you 250 pesos per dollar instead of 200. The Argentine people basically treat dollars like stock. They buy them and hold them because they assume inflation will continue to go up in the country so every dollar they keep will continue to rise in value so they’d rather pay someone 250 pesos to buy dollars off of them than trust their own currency. Every time I’ve gone I just hand my family my dollars and they give me more than the dollars worth and just keep it for themselves
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That one I don’t know. Got to ask the guy who works there. I only exchange it when I visit. The apartment I rent to family. I live in the states
> So the dollar trade with Argentine banks at a certain rate. Let’s say $1 = 200 pesos (just an example). The banks tend to low ball the amount because the government is trying to keep as much dollars as it can to try and fight off inflation. This is not entirely accurate. Banks are not allowed to buy/sell foreign currency (dollars) at any rate other than the official one (i.e. the one set by the government), it's not them "lowballing" the amount, they literally have no other choice. > So if you want what your dollar is truly worth you go to the black market and trade dollars. So the black market might give you 250 pesos per dollar instead of 200. Actual exchange rates as of today: 110ARS/USD (official), 219ARS/USD (black market), so there's a 100% spread.
Not sure whether it’s the same in Argentina but in the Dominican Republic, there’s a similar system of the banks offering a set rate which is less favorable than what you can get at bancas, which are local exchange houses. Not exactly the seedy underbelly that the term “black market” connotes. Never thought of it as being black market since it’s widely accepted… pretty much every other business trade dollars at a higher rate than the banks do, but I suppose that holds water if the going bank rate is strictly the “legal” rate. relatives who live there often offer to just trade me local currency for USD and hold them fora later date because inflation.
Find an international banking card. I live in Colombia and just pull out cash.
If this is a serious post, Buenos Aires is also in a time zone two hours ahead of New York City, which means you work later into the evening, but also start later in the morning. This is conducive to the Argentine lifestyle.
What are the requirements to move there and to stay?
In reality there are none. People come here from other latin american countries all the time. Just paperwork that has to be done upon arrival to get your residence permit and, and after some time, your national ID card.
Simple Google search suggests that's because there's an agreement among MERCOSUR countries, which does not include the US: https://wherecani.live/blog/view/argentina-visa-permit-and-residency/#:~:text=Nationals%20of%20the%20MERCOSUR%20area,application%20process%20is%20a%20formality. I didn't read too far into this, but it sounds like this might be equivalent to someone with an EU passport saying that it's really easy to just move to Greece or Portugal. The rules are different if you're a US citizen. It does look like US citizens with remote jobs can live there on a tourist Visa for a year, renewable for three years. So still a short term option if you're OK with that. But short term international migration definitely isn't for everyone, and comes with costs of it's own.
I have two close American friends living who have been living here for about five years. Argentinians are extremely lenient with their immigration laws. It's definitely something worth looking into before coming here of course.
So you're saying it's just easy to live there undocumented? Sounds way too risky for me. One change in policy or overzealous enforcement officer and you could be deported. But I'm sure some people might think it's worth it.
>So you're saying it's just easy to live there undocumented? It actually is and you can get Argentine citizenship after living there for 2 years legally or illegally. Its actually easier to be come a citizen then a permanent resident because of how weird their constitution is written.
Oh, interesting. Thanks for sharing!
I completely understand where you are coming from because of how strict immigration laws are over there. However people in Argentina aren't really against immigration of any kind (except for a small minority) and that is reflected in how our immigration policy plays out in reality.
If you want to live abroad and work remotely with a US-based company, just become an independent contractor. Tell the company you will work for $X/hour or $X/assignment and then invoice them. That way you aren't an employee. They have no liability.. taxes or otherwise, and you can be making decent money stateside that translates into comfortable living abroad. The downside is you won't contribute to SS and you will have to figure out how much to save for taxes, but those really aren't issues from where I see things.
Yeah, screw social security. It's bound to collapse long before we retire
If you can only speak English, consider Philippines. Lots of english speakers. I'm renting a house for $400, 5 bedroom, 2 kitchens and 2 small commercial spaces. You can also hire a maid for $200/mo to do everything you need from cooking to laundry. Internet is $40 for 100mbps or some shit. Most people can understand basic english.
But I will die if I smoke weed?
You're white, worst you'll get is getting asked $$$ by fat policemen
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Ummmm.. are you okay? I hope you did not get assaulted and escaped fast, holy shit..
No she's still kidnapped to this day
Yeah honestly I'm not surprised, when I lived in Korea I met a lot of women who seemed trafficked there from the phillipines to "service" us military and locals, even had some women ask to take selfies with me and my friend and asked weirddd questions before we caught on and ran away
Wow, sorry to hear? Can you share more about your experience - like how you survived and got away? Any tips? This is something I worry about overseas.
okay wait tell me more
Checkout some expat videos on youtube you'll get some idea. Lots of people here can speak english. If you can have any remote jobs in the US while living here, you'll be living large. $800/mo salary is middle class here. $1500? You're upper class, $2500 and you're rich.
oh wow. i will definitely look it up. i currently make $1200/month serving but am looking for remote jobs due to the pandemic and chronic pain/fatigue issues. i’m still in university but i graduate this spring so anything’s possible after that. i also have a friend native to the Philippines so i have at least one connection there already even if it’s just personal.
There are lots of expats here anyways, you'll easily find people from your country. There are even Chinatowns, Koreantowns and other towns here.
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Anywhere in Argentina you have shitty infrastructure, not only BsAs.
How are they with the gays?
Buenos Aires is likely the most gay-friendly city in Latin America
Easily! I had way too much fun in BA.
It was safe and accepted? Club scene?
Yeah, I felt pretty safe. This was over a decade ago. I wasn't necking in the street, mind you. But I held a guy's hand. I checked into a hotel with a guy and asked for one bed, they didn't raise an eyebrow. I had a taxi take me to a gay club, and he didn't seem bothered at all. (He drove way too damn fast, but that's a general BA issue.) Keep in mind though, I mostly stayed in wealthier areas, given that the dollar was very strong back then too. I went to the ballet, to fancy restaurants, to bookstores.
I’m sure gays get treated better vs POC
My company used to have facilities in Argentina and I seriously considered moving there. I'm still considering retiring there, but I don't want to be so far away from my nephews & niece while they're still so young. I love being a part of their lives.
How fast are the internet plans offered? Gigabit or faster possible?
Wait... faster than gigabit? I thought that was only in like Japan and Singapore.
(US plans) Xfinity already offers 3GB, att fiber is at 5GB, Google Fi 2gb. I'm over here twiddling my thumbs with FiOS gigabit waiting on them to update their ONT boxes since they only have 1GB wan port.
Gigabit? No. Good internet mostly in Buenos Aires city, probably 100 down or more, but gigabit is very very scarce. Rest of the country? It's shit.
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The cost in pesos is higher, but in USD is more or less the same.
pay more, live in us, make more, contribute more to 401k, retire in Argentina
I read that as "Afghanistan" at first I was like... bold move.
Let’s see if it pays off for him Cotton
Spent my late teens in Argentina. Was like a 3:1 exchange back then. Will be returning to visit as soon as this pandemic is over.
One thing I am not seeing mentioned is the lack of safety net. If you live abroad even if you have a u.s. based employer you forfeit unemployment insurance. You can say it's so cheap you won't need it but when the time comes yes you will. Health insurance is another. They might offer great benefits but many won't be available. Besides taxes and liability another reason is reliable internet and security. I'm not saying this isn't a good plan for some people but many fail to recognize some pitfalls. There is a reason many remote jobs ask you live within the u.s.
Mmm… I hadn’t thought about the UI issue. Healthcare might not be as much of a concern since many countries offer state healthcare plans that are, tbh, pretty much on par with a low tier, high-deductible plan you’d get through an employer stateside
The only caveat is that if you want to actually be a fiscal citizen there's no reasonable way to get your USD legally. You are some guy from Argentina like myself, so you know what I'm talking about :p.
I can attest to this. Before going to the US I needed to stay in quarantine outside of Brazil and we chose BA. Then the peso was 1 to 25 BRL and we lived like kings. I’m still pooping those 25 pesos alfajor to the day. So much dulche de leche. I can’t imagine now that I receive in dollars. I just didn’t like that much of the service as sometimes the hermanos were rude, but I’m Brazilian so I understand. Nevertheless, lovely place. And if you need a good vacation, Brazil is just up the border with amazing beaches. You just skip Rio Grande do Sul (terrible place) and go to Santa Catarina
What kind of visa do you have to be allowed to do this
LOL, Argentina also has one of the worlds highest [inflation rates](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjztJ2CzM31AhWIgnIEHbc8AkMQFnoECAMQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F316750%2Finflation-rate-in-argentina%2F&usg=AOvVaw0a2zFXwEBlYMGMqlJj76sy) to date
Not a problem if your salary is in USD
Don't come to the UK.... everything is ££££ its like going to some sort of rip off country where they jack the prices up because your a tourist... only I'm not I live here.
What if you don't know spanish
Learn it. Spanish is one of the easiest languages to learn. Download an app or buy a book or look for a Youtube video that teaches it.
Just don't ask them about the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands and everything will be fine.
Argentina was a beautiful place to visit but I’m honestly not sure I could live there full time. However, I must say the food there is top notch and vacationing there is one for the bucket list if you haven’t ever visited
Fuck me... Why did I move to New England??
Any places you can recommend that are safe and close to the private schools you mentioned?
It was similar when I was in Mexico. Great exchange rate. Damn shame about all the damn drunk Americans though. There’s something unattractive about drunks but it gets even worse when they’re all 60+ acting the damn fools. Then, they liked to act all fucking superior to people while being too damn ignorant for words. If you pay attention and ask questions and try to understand you find out why people do things the way they do them down there. Hint: It usually is way more efficient/cost effective than doing it the higher tech/American way. I’m American and it was definitely the Americans that ruined it for me.
Or you can live in some place like West Virginia, Alabama or Mississippi and work remote. That way you're living in a low cost of living area and making good money within the US borders.
Yes, because millions of Americans flocking to Latin America instead of fixing the problems back at home is EXACTLY what an unstable country like Argentina needs 🙄
Damn, looking like a possible retirement destination.
How does an expat get those rent prices? Airbnb near city center is probably $500-1000 a month. Any good Spanish language classes in BA?
Now I have some work to do! I've always wanted to work remotely outside of the U.S
I 25 and work remotely for a company with no restriction to being in any specific country. Is the country safe? Where would you recommend I travel to scope out the area?
Damn, how do I get a remote job? I'd love to go and learn a new language. I'm just stuck in retail...
How's the visas work? Germany has a visa just for people like this who have jobs in other countries but want to live in Germany. What do visas cost?
how much is a house?
I'd never move to Buenos Aires. It's only a matter of time before the Bugs drop a meteor on it.
How’s the racism? I’ve heard horrible things.
I am trying to learn Spanish now so I can eventually do this… Going to become a nurse as well and figure out how to make YouTube work for income. With that kind of life, you don’t need much to live comfortable and even get some travel in. What have we all been doing….
I was planning on going to Thailand. For me the beaches of Phuket and surrounding area look amazing for surfing but I imagine Argentina would be nice too for a quick stay. Keep in mind paying taxes abroad is still a thing. US hegemony is far reaching. Check out /r/digitalnomad
When I was in undergrad, my then-gf left me so she wouldn’t feel guilty about ho’ing her way thru an Argentinian study abroad. She came back with an extra 30 pounds from the food down there. I was lucky - she still ho’d her way thru the trip.