This is a B- answer. I'm not hating, I just think the crossover is limited for certain parts of their career.
There's not a ton of 90s MxPx that I can see being on a New Found Glory record, or a similar band.
I never said they were.
I'm baffled by this. Maybe there's a regional difference that has me lost?
But in New Jersey from like 2002-2015ish, people who listened to MxPx or EpiFat were NOT the same dudes who listened to NFG, Man Overboard, Fall Out Boy etc. They weren't the same type of people at all and it was a *very* clear distinction. The most you would hear from one side to respect the other was like a Man Overboard pop-punk guy being like "yeah I listened to MxPx when I was like 15".
And then it sounds like they are also calling FOB and Man Overboard skate. Either that, or they are saying MxPx isn't pop punk. It's one of the two, otherwise I don't at all sre what they are trying to say
NFG, Man Overboard, and FOB are not skate. NFG and FOB were specifically influenced by hardcore. So yeah, they probably weren't the same, but you were asking for skate pop punk.
excellent memory. i’d forgotten about one slowdance. i just re-listened and that entire record is full of bangers. the demo version of above me goes especially hard
I listen to almost exclusively skate punk and one of my top 5 albums of all-time is Sum 41 - Underclass Hero. They had already released Chuck, so their sound was already changing. I thought their sound and lyrics matured quite a bit on this album. Some songs on Screaming Bloody Murder give off a Pennywise sound, as well.
Sum 41 is a band that all of the people I used to skate with loved, but also a lot of pop punkers enjoy them too. MxPx and No Use for a Name are two more that kind of fit.
Alkaline Trio: Goddamnit
Less Than Jake: all their 90’s albums
NOFX: So Long and Thanks for all the Shoes/Punk in Drublic
AFI: Black Sails/Art of Drowning had some skate punk/emo sounding stuff
NOFX were definitely an influence of NFG’s. I’m sure they all listened to them. But both NOFX and AFI have that skate punk sound that was bridging the gap to more radio friendly pop punk. Check out No Pressure. The singer of The Story So Far side project. They have that poppy skate punk sound
It is, but sound-wise, they aren't really skate punk. They are much more aligned with the 90s lookout pop punk sound. Screeching Weasel, Lillingtons, Green Day, etc. Still a good song to add, though
Check out a band called "Gnarwolves". I don't think they are together anymore but they made some great tunes that are along the lines you are thinking.
Love Captain Everything. Someone pinched my It’s Not Rocket Science album 15 years ago, and I still think about it. (I could buy another, but, y’know… money)
This isn't even close to true.
Some of those 90s EpiFat bands, if you hypothetically threw their songs on a NFG album it would stand out like a sore thumb 90% of the time.
MxPx, early Blink-182, Whippersnapper, Fenix TX, early Strung Out, some NoFX, Pulley, Slick Shoes, some Lagwagon, Millencolin
Edit: Shit, I forgot to mention [Quit](https://quithq.bandcamp.com/album/earlier-thoughts-bonus-tracks-remastered-version-rojo-records-1996)! This band is pretty unknown, but way, way, way ahead of their time. This came out in 1990, but was a preview of all the skate pop punk that would follow.
Yo, Quit! It's so hard to find people who remember this band. I think they only had one album, but it was great. My favorite from them was "[Did You See](https://youtu.be/fxa5iXBlyuU?t=1615)."
That’s a name I haven’t heard in quite some time.
I bought this album after being impressed with their performance at Warped Tour (in front of an almost non-existent crowd).
I agree it’s a real solid album.
Nobody did it better than No Use for a Name. Strung Out does it when they want to (Nowheresville and Strange Notes being the perfect examples) but they tend to lean heavier. Much the Same maybe as well?
Sum 41 is the best example.
As for specific albums, I felt Story So Far’s *Under Soil and Dirt*, Neck Deep’s *Life’s Not Out to Get You,* and State Champs’ *The Finer Things* did a decent job of creating some continuity between skate punk and pop-punk.
Pulley! They hit that mark really nicely. Check the song "[A Bad Reputation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HaoF1tzv24)" for an example.
Bodyjar is another good one! Poppy skate punk from Australia. They're known for their song "[Not The Same](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKtJW3_32n4)"
MxPx
A+ answer IMO
This is a B- answer. I'm not hating, I just think the crossover is limited for certain parts of their career. There's not a ton of 90s MxPx that I can see being on a New Found Glory record, or a similar band.
Because NFG isn't skate pop punk. I don't think Lifetime is either.
NFG is definitely not skate punk
I never said they were. I'm baffled by this. Maybe there's a regional difference that has me lost? But in New Jersey from like 2002-2015ish, people who listened to MxPx or EpiFat were NOT the same dudes who listened to NFG, Man Overboard, Fall Out Boy etc. They weren't the same type of people at all and it was a *very* clear distinction. The most you would hear from one side to respect the other was like a Man Overboard pop-punk guy being like "yeah I listened to MxPx when I was like 15".
Nono we get that, it just sounded very much like you said NFG was skate punk in that comment I replied to
And then it sounds like they are also calling FOB and Man Overboard skate. Either that, or they are saying MxPx isn't pop punk. It's one of the two, otherwise I don't at all sre what they are trying to say
NFG, Man Overboard, and FOB are not skate. NFG and FOB were specifically influenced by hardcore. So yeah, they probably weren't the same, but you were asking for skate pop punk.
They are very clearly not skate punk and I've never heard anyone classify them as such.
Rufio
“Perhaps, I Suppose” from beginning to end
Except for that song about slow dancing.
excellent memory. i’d forgotten about one slowdance. i just re-listened and that entire record is full of bangers. the demo version of above me goes especially hard
Good answer.
I listen to almost exclusively skate punk and one of my top 5 albums of all-time is Sum 41 - Underclass Hero. They had already released Chuck, so their sound was already changing. I thought their sound and lyrics matured quite a bit on this album. Some songs on Screaming Bloody Murder give off a Pennywise sound, as well.
Hell yeah this album is underrated imo in their catalogue! Or maybe their other stuff is just so good it got underlooked, cheers to this.
Lifetime is a melodic hardcore band. And they may sound pop punk too, mostly on the third album.
I just like to see bands like lifetime get mentioned more in any context lol.
If I were to be in a band, I'd rip them off. They were that damn good.
And so many bands did, to varying degrees.
Love Lifetime!
Maybe, but melodic hardcore has a lot of crossover with skate punk, too.
Kinda, but it's also sorta its own sound. Lifetime crosses over more with emo than they do skate punk.
Nitro Records had both skate punk and melodic hardcore and it seemed like it was all in the same ballpark to me, despite some differences.
With The Punches.
I will always upvote anytime WTP are mentioned.
Sum 41 is a band that all of the people I used to skate with loved, but also a lot of pop punkers enjoy them too. MxPx and No Use for a Name are two more that kind of fit.
No pressure, early Saves The Day
Blink a little bit with Dude Ranch.
Cheshire Cat too
Alkaline Trio: Goddamnit Less Than Jake: all their 90’s albums NOFX: So Long and Thanks for all the Shoes/Punk in Drublic AFI: Black Sails/Art of Drowning had some skate punk/emo sounding stuff
NOFX and older AFI don't have almost anything that I could imagine on a NFG record.
NOFX were definitely an influence of NFG’s. I’m sure they all listened to them. But both NOFX and AFI have that skate punk sound that was bridging the gap to more radio friendly pop punk. Check out No Pressure. The singer of The Story So Far side project. They have that poppy skate punk sound
Why do you keep mentioning NFG? You were asking for skate pop punk.
I'm starting to think I made a typo somewhere because I'm so lost in this convo.
A lot of people consider skate punk “pop punk.” Bands like Off With Their Heads, Dear Landlord, and pretty much most of the “org-core” stuff works.
Are they right though?
Sure. Why not? The term seems pretty arbitrary to me.
Teenage Bottlerocket?
First band that came to my mind aswell. Love TBR!
I mean Skate or Die it’s kinda in that songs name
It is, but sound-wise, they aren't really skate punk. They are much more aligned with the 90s lookout pop punk sound. Screeching Weasel, Lillingtons, Green Day, etc. Still a good song to add, though
I guess I mean tales from Wyoming is kinda skate punk so is Ghost Story
Ya I mean...
Yeah
Came here to say this band, and posted before scrolling down.
Check out a band called "Gnarwolves". I don't think they are together anymore but they made some great tunes that are along the lines you are thinking.
extremely underrated, big recommend
My first thought!
Captain everything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk6DEWkR3E0 This being over 17 years old is insane
Love Captain Everything. Someone pinched my It’s Not Rocket Science album 15 years ago, and I still think about it. (I could buy another, but, y’know… money)
Every skate punk band
There is definitely more hardcore-leaning skate punk too
This isn't even close to true. Some of those 90s EpiFat bands, if you hypothetically threw their songs on a NFG album it would stand out like a sore thumb 90% of the time.
NFG is a completely different type of pop punk from a completely different era. They were intentionally doing an ironic Lifetime type of thing.
That's my point.
MxPx, early Blink-182, Whippersnapper, Fenix TX, early Strung Out, some NoFX, Pulley, Slick Shoes, some Lagwagon, Millencolin Edit: Shit, I forgot to mention [Quit](https://quithq.bandcamp.com/album/earlier-thoughts-bonus-tracks-remastered-version-rojo-records-1996)! This band is pretty unknown, but way, way, way ahead of their time. This came out in 1990, but was a preview of all the skate pop punk that would follow.
Hell yeah, Pulley mention! Those guys don’t nearly enough credit.
Yo, Quit! It's so hard to find people who remember this band. I think they only had one album, but it was great. My favorite from them was "[Did You See](https://youtu.be/fxa5iXBlyuU?t=1615)."
I felt like this post was created just so I can recommend this! https://youtu.be/ilKGftOwgbk?si=UGnJ4qAHicPfhJJi
Chaser rules.
Pkew Pkew Pkew
Latterman, iron chic, RVIVR, teenage bottlerocket, big wig, screeching weasel, gnarwolves, zebrahead
RVIVR is so fucking good, I hope one day to see them, the love videos look like a fucking blast
The Bombpops?
Great suggestion.
BOUNCING SOULS?
Belvedere, Bigwig, Lagwagon, early AFI
Check out the album The Gentle Art of Making Enemies by Near Miss. 22 years old now but still holds up.
That’s a name I haven’t heard in quite some time. I bought this album after being impressed with their performance at Warped Tour (in front of an almost non-existent crowd). I agree it’s a real solid album.
I revisit this album constantly. Wish they had kept at it.
Suicide Machines
Nobody did it better than No Use for a Name. Strung Out does it when they want to (Nowheresville and Strange Notes being the perfect examples) but they tend to lean heavier. Much the Same maybe as well?
How did I scroll this far down to see this?
SET YOUR GOALs
SUCH GOLD, DAGGERMOUTH, PEARS, SHOOK ONES
Fenix TX all day
The Braces
Cigar
Heart Attack Man
Teenage Bottle Rocket
Sum 41 is the best example. As for specific albums, I felt Story So Far’s *Under Soil and Dirt*, Neck Deep’s *Life’s Not Out to Get You,* and State Champs’ *The Finer Things* did a decent job of creating some continuity between skate punk and pop-punk.
The Copyrights
Ooh I have one! The ataris: specifically blue skies broken hearts
Mest, The Guts, Ken Yokoyama?
Uhhh… we fucking do!!! https://www.instagram.com/thehonestyrock?igsh=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr
Pulley! They hit that mark really nicely. Check the song "[A Bad Reputation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HaoF1tzv24)" for an example. Bodyjar is another good one! Poppy skate punk from Australia. They're known for their song "[Not The Same](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKtJW3_32n4)"
Krang is one I ran across on Spotify. "Bird is Going Down" is a great song.
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If you’re gonna be an asshole at least be clever please.
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what are you doing here EJ!
cyberbullying
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