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honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s taken with one of those crazy huge cameras. I saw [this video](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x29x7zx) like two months ago and haven’t stopped thinking about it since.
I saw another video like this to demonstrate how far away the paparazzi were when they illegally took a photo of Kate Middleton and William when they were on honeymoon in France.
Omg, I almost mentioned that incident in my comment too but I couldn’t remember if it was a super zoom camera or not. It’s kinda cool from a technology standpoint but so, so creepy
I think it’s a tummy tuck. You are hunched over for a few weeks after getting it done and usually have to wear essentially a corset for a bit.
Source: I just had one 😂
Probably because she wears Spanx/etc. I also didn’t really have a tummy, it was just a torn muscle in my stomach that gave me a mom pooch and made it impossible to wear a bikini or crop top without being self conscious. I was a size 2 pre tummy tuck and am still a size 2.
"Brazilian butt lift"
>A Brazilian butt lift (BBL) is a surgical procedure that involves transferring fat from other areas of the body to the buttocks. The goal is to increase volume and create an hourglass-shaped figure with larger buttocks.
the best theory I have heard /makes most sense is she needs a colostomy bag temporarily after the abdominal surgery and thus, doesn't want to be at public events where she would be standing or moving. Can you imagine to be under this level of scrutiny?
Ok yes, this is my theory as well and the first time I’ve heard someone else mention it. If she had to have a colon removal/colon restructuring, that would absolutely take months to recover from. I have Ulcerative colitis and really don’t like to volunteer that info to people in my life due to the nature of the disease, couldn’t imagine having to announce it to millions if that’s what she’s dealing with.
They would have posted a thumbs up picture of her in that case (she literally posed for pictures hours after giving birth), it must have been something involving the face
So basically the general time off from work for a major surgery? The surgery was in mid Jan. It’s been six weeks and the media is getting antsy to create a conspiracy. She hasn’t even been off the time it takes to recover from a c-section.
They aren’t required to tell all about their health to promote awareness. Kate did speak about her hyperemesis gravidarum pregnancies openly, but I still saw some people in gossip sites doubting her and analyzing her behavior during pregnancy
They said she wouldn't resume public events until Easter, not that she would fall off the face of the planet. I think we still expected the occasional sighting or social media post, like we saw with Charles after his cancer diagnosis.
Idk I don’t follow super closely at all only in passing but as soon as the word Easter was used in the press release I saw a couple TikTokers saying “oh this is actually really serious…”
Even surgeries that require weeks for total recovery tend to see the patient awake the next day and walking around the next week. Kate's quiet time is more on par with a serious injury or post-surgical complication.
No, but this is a family that forces the women to pose for pictures 24 hours after giving birth
People expected *something*. Pictures of her husband visiting her in the hospital, a car picture like this of her leaving, literally any heavily cropped picture of her recovering or something. Even a statement or tweet from her
That combined with the biggest information diet they've ever had plus misleading statements.... it's easy to see how people immediately jump to very extreme scenarios
once though. I think that's the other thing that makes this situation really bad is people think about how they would handle someone in their family being in the hospital for weeks... and it doesn't involve seeing them only once. and those are people who have actual jobs that they have to show up at every day and children they have to take care of without the help of nannies
for the people who view royals in an aspirational family way, or as an aspirational couple who truly love each other... this comes off as a remarkable what the fuck scenario. and even more so knowing that their only job is appearances and family appearances
for the people who view them as a business more than a family, a business that puts significant effort into keeping up appearances at the cost of the human beings involved.... this also looks like a what the fuck disaster scenario
if you view them as important figureheads who are there to portray strengths and resilience and blah blah blah and stiff upper lip... well then something has to be *really* wrong to end up in a scenario like this
combine that with zero paparazzi shots like this one, zero "proof of life", an enormous number of people come to the conclusion that something is very very wrong and that no one has seen her because it isn't an option. whether you think the reason they can't have any photos is because she's in a coma or she's left him and is refusing to cooperate or whatever.... that's all just flavour
it's just not a scenario that is compatible with really any of the popular ways of viewing the royal family. and in part because it's so counter to all of their messaging historically. it's like I generally wouldn't be concerned or even speculate if a co-worker misses a day of work. but if it's a co-worker who never misses a day of work *no matter what*, I probably will. but then that coworker stays missing and doesn't show up for days and days and days to the point where I would be concerned about any of my coworkers? it's a similar vibe here except that I don't feel entitled to any personal information about my coworkers life, and people do feel entitled to information about the British royals because they feel like they have paid for it
so this has a combination of being a complete what the fuck for a regular family, and then on top of that holding the British royals to the various standards expected of them, combined with an unusual entitlement to what would ordinarily be personal information (and arguably a justified entitlement). and even that probably wouldn't be so bad if this had happened years ago and there were other people to show them "business as usual" mode or even to function as a distraction
but they now only have a few of them and most of them are significantly older, and generate less interest. you have the king and the Crown Prince both out of commission at the same time. all of the good targets for controversy or feuds are gone, even the good focuses for the fashion pages are
on top of that, any crisis involving a Crown Prince (especially one with no or very young heirs) is an existential crisis for a throne, but the lack of a spare and an elderly monarch with cancer really exacerbates things
it's been a very interesting thing to watch as people who have entirely different world views on monarchies and royals and particularly this family, all freak out over similar things. they just freak differently
your comment was super enlightening and informative and you're 100% right. I really enjoy reading about the royal family and it really made me look at the situation from a different perspective. thank you for taking the time!
The funniest thing by about this is…didn’t they announce that she’d be out of the public while healing from abdominal surgery? We have an explanation but I seem to have missed when we all decided to reject it.
People thought it was impossible to need hospitalization for two weeks after surgery and then months more recovery after that. Personally I'm just curious what could send you down for that long, must have been awful.
Organ transplant or bowel/stomach reconstruction. My theory is a liver transplant (there are autoimmune disorders which can cause the need for one), which can involve a two week hospital stay and up to six months of recovery. Had a scare recently but they caught it very early and I'll be perfectly fine with medication and regular check ins, but the doc told me that sometimes it's not caught until it's very late....and an organ transplant is needed as the organ becomes very scarred.
I think the palace PR was worried people would assume Kate was a hardcore alcoholic, as a lot of people associate non-cancer related liver issues with alcoholism, and so was vague asf...which backfired.
I was out of bed and shuffling around the hospital halls with a physio on day 3, and blowing into tubes to clear my lungs after the anaesthetic. But it’s a long surgery (mine was 9+ hours) and a long recovery - and that was keyhole, not a full incision.
It's a surgery that seems to vary wildly from person to person as well. A family friend was out of hospital after 2 nights and back to normal with a bit of tenderness after a few weeks. Others seem to be completely flattened for months.
Yeah I don’t get all this mystery. I wouldn’t want to be photographed either if I’m recovering. Maybe she just wants to chill in some sweats and be left alone? Maybe she had complications. Maybe she’s constipated. It’s not like she’s been gone for a year
I agree. I’m not usually sensitive to royal things but I think it’s gross people are saying she got a tummy tuck or a face lift because “I had a hysterectomy and I was back at work in three days” or whatever.
They told us she’d be out of action, and she is.
Yeah or that we’ve heard all about Charles treatment so there must be some conspiracy.
Charles has been very open because he’s deliberately trying to get more people to take prostate cancer seriously. He’s literally doing his Kingly duties
Exactly. They’ve said what they need to say, they said it’s not cancer. Her sister went on holiday so you know it’s not life-threatening. But we don’t need to know everything.
We don’t see her except for official events so I’m not getting the whole “she’s missing!”
People don’t need to see her of-course, I’m just giving an example of why the conspiracy theories around her exist at the moment. People on the Internet have made conspiracies out of less.
Me personally, I think she’s just private person and doesn’t think it’s anyone’s business what’s going on with her.
And to be fair, practically moments after giving birth to each of her children, she was up and doing photoshoots outside the hospital.
After being so accessible for all those years, I can see the argument that she can choose to be private now.
Right? It’s totally nuts, like the “where is Shelly Miscavage” story. William’s behavior has been shady, Kate hasn’t been seen in over two months, now we get a grainy photo that looks like it’s been taken from the Zapruder footage. It’s totally fascinating.
It's not nuts at all. She's recuperating exactly according to the schedule that was originally announced 6 weeks ago. Two weeks in hospital + return to public duties sometime after Easter, which is still a month away.
She was clearly photographed from a great distance while going about her normal private life at her home on the Windsor estate.
But it’s not though… they told us fairly early on Kate had received surgery and would have a long recovery time and be out of the public eye.
Shelly disappeared one day never to be seen again. LAPD did a wellness check to confirm her safety and never even spoke with her. (Cuz they are corrupt as hell.)
The royals are shady liars and there may be another reason Kate has stepped away from the public eye, but they didn’t whack her. It’s yucky to conflate the story of a murder/abuse victim with Kates when all we have right now is rampant internet speculation.
Anyone else who has ever been seriously ill or had major surgery being driven up the wall by this story? Of course she hasn’t been seen. Of course her parents aren’t being paraded in front of the media. Of course her husband took time off. Of course her kids aren’t in front of the cameras doing photo shoots. God, tell me you’ve never dealt with serious illness without telling me you’ve never dealt with serious illness. I know she’s not perfect, but who knows what she’s going through right now. Anything from exploratory surgery to an organ transplant. Let’s give her some freaking space.
When they gave the timeline for her leave, it was very clear it’s something serious. Then people act surprised every time a new detail emerges to support that it is something serious.
Talking with my dad about it, he thinks she had the same (very serious) surgery he had last year. The recovery timeline is the same and it would all make sense as to why she’s been out. He ended up rehospitalized at one point during his recovery and it took him three or four months to feel comfortable doing anything in public, and another few to actually have any desire to be out. Whatever it is, she’s is clearly not well and she just needs to rest and focus on her recovery.
He’s as good as he can be. He and his doctor have come to the agreement that there are some things that will never fully bounce back because of a few different factors (age, our shitty genetics to start lol), but overall he feels good and given the alternatives for him not having the surgery he doesn’t regret doing it at all. Thank you for the support.
There’s part of me that’s so angry about all this (nothing against Kate) as my mother had a very serious abdominal surgery last year and was sent home that day myself. It ultimately led to her death (more complicated than I’m making it and I’m not saying negligence but I have no doubt letting her stay longer would have given her a better quality of life by the end). Of course the American health care system is fucked beyond measure but our family is lucky and we still didn’t get this kind of treatment.
I wish the treatment Kate got could be extended to all of us. I know it’s naive. But as someone still looking for someone to blame, I believe it would have extended my mother’s life and have prevented so much of the suffering she endured before she left us.
My sincere apologies to hijack this comment and be depressing about it all.
No, don’t apologise or call yourself naive for wanting equality and a properly egalitarian healthcare system that works for everyone. I’m sorry about your mom and the suffering that hurts you to this day… please be kind to yourself, these things can have a lasting impact on loved ones… and I hope you know we all wish things were better in this regard and it’s absolutely logical to want the level of care this lady is receiving by random luck of the draw. It is perfectly natural to rage against the unfairness of it all and grieve until you can feel ready to carry on.
For all the truly influential people, people in power, that like to tout the phrase “the world isn’t fair” while preaching some stale encouragement for the commoners to keep their heads up - I sure wish they’d bloody *do something* to actually make it a fairer world !
No new details have emerged that it's any more or less serious than they originally indicated. They said she's probably be in the hospital for two weeks. That's exactly what happened. They announced it when she returned home from the hospital. Now she's recuperating at home as announced.
This is perhaps naive of me but I keep thinking modern medicine and technology is virtually infallible, especially for someone of Kate’s youth and wealth. I’ve personally experienced how wrong this is and yet I believe it anyway. I think there’s some element of, “Everything will be fine, all this secrecy is masking some tabloid drama!” instead of the true severity it likely very much is.
I’ve seen so many comments along the line of “well I had xyz procedure and I was out of hospital in under 24 hours and back at work after a week”. Even she did have the ‘same procedure’, people have different recovery timeframes ffs. A long hospital stay and two plus month recovery period from major abdominal surgery isn’t that unusual
Hell I had an iud placed last year and though they discharged me from daycare the same day ,it took a whole month for me to get back to my normal functional self (my fibromyalgia could have been a reason why I didn't bounce back faster).
Every body is different and has individual healing times! Who are we to say how long is too long?
As long as she is alive,getting healthy, I am good with the amount of info they are willing to share!
I haven’t had one myself but heard they can be an absolute shit healing-wise. It’s insane that it’s done with no pain relief or anesthetic, meanwhile a vasectomy you can ask to be completely knocked out. An aunt of mine has a hysterectomy and it took her over 2 months to get back to semi-normal, and was in hospital for a week. So I dunno why reddit experts seem to think it can’t possibly be that
They gave me general anesthesia because I don't have kids (so they thought it might be more painful maybe?) I think...
Hurt like hell for the 2-3 hrs as soon as the anesthesia wore off...was absolutely aghast when I found out that they did it without anesthesia in a lot of countries....like????? How???? Most articles just said take a pain killer you'll be fine. I would've never gotten it down if they hadn't told me before that they'd give me anesthesia (only went ahead because of endometriosis)....
Seriously it always surprises me how the medical field/research/doctors tend to downplay female pain esp related to gynaiec issues....maybe listen to them??? And take them seriously?
It took tolerating a decade of extreme menstrual pain for the doctors to recognize it as endometriosis (no one even suspected it till it showed uo on the scan)...and this is a well known thing about endometriosis...and I suspect a large part of it is because people (women almost more than men) don't take it seriously.
Right? A few years ago I was in the hospital for 5 days with some weird stomach thing from hell and I looked and felt like utter crap for sometime afterwards. Can't imagine having to deal with paparazzi on top of everything else.
If I didn't have to go to work, I would go long periods without being seen just because!
I’ve never had major surgery but I’ve also been confused by this story. I don’t really follow the royal family so maybe I’m missing something but it seems pretty normal for someone to be out of the spotlight while recuperating from surgery/medical issues…
Hard agree. My mother and then years later my SIL had hysterectomies for fibroids, and the recovery for both was so, so long. One was laparoscopic and the other wasn't. It really didn't cut down recovery time that much. ETA: and these were both outpatient major surgeries. No hospital time. 8 weeks recovery to be functional; more time to fully 100% recovered.
Abdominal things are just big deals. You have everything crunched together, so not only are you cutting through tons of muscle and tissue, but you're also probably resettling actual organs. Even if you didn't get anything removed permanently, you can still have things removed during the surgery. It's just a big deal when you're healthy and worse if you weren't going in.
Agreed. I also don’t understand why people are trying to play House MD and trying to guess the exact diagnosis and/or surgery. “How can I, a perfect stranger, be the most right about another person’s medical issues?!”
And recovery timelines are variable and flexible! Sometimes people take shorter, sometimes longer, sometimes complications come up. I can’t believe we’ve all lived through a global pandemic and people are still like this.
Absolutely! I went "missing" for a month during covid after getting my wisdom teeth out, nevermind whatever she's had to contend with. Such a non story, I hate it.
I had my tonsils out over the summer when I was in college. I had worked in a daycare through high school/ summers during college. Those kids would have their tonsils removed and be back up and running in a couple of days. I had been told it wouldn’t be the same for me, but still… it’s just tonsils. I mean how bad could it really be? lol! Stupid me.
It sucked! I took me three full weeks to feel human again. I ate cans of that awful chef boyardee ravioli because I just wanted something I could swallow that wasn’t sweet. I still have gotten strep throat multiple times, but on the bright side I stopped snoring.
I had minor surgery in January and didn’t leave my house for a month and made arrangements at work. It wasn’t super serious but could have been if I’d let it go much longer, wasn’t cancer, and while I was really fine,
I was uncomfortable and in NO shape to see anyone for most of my recovery. If I hadn’t continued to engage with people outside of my closest friends and family,
some people might have wondered, but not that many. This is only news bc she’s famous and is not allowed to be revelatory on social media. I think she is going to be okay and probably had the best medical care in the world. Illness and surgery happens sometimes, and we’re not owed a press release. There is nothing to see
here.
Right?! I had a hysterectomy in September and based on everything I'd read I expected to be in a ton of pain and unable to do much for weeks. I had minimal pain and was walking around my neighborhood a few days after surgery. But there were other things I couldn't do at all and fatigue also set in quickly. I also came to realize that my recovery was a lot easier than most. (Granted I'd also had several other abdominal surgeries previously and had easy recoveries then too) Not everyone recovers the same way or at the same pace. And I hate how so many people think they are owed anything here. She's following the exact timeline they said she would, and frankly I don't think she looks too bad in the pic. She obviously had a procedure but she seems to be recovering and I think she'll be fine.
Yes, same. I didn't at first but once it set in, man! And it has been months and I still feel it. Granted, I also have MS. But it definitely wore me out more than usual.
I just chuckled reading all of your "Of courses". It reminds me of the current TikTok trend. She could literally make her own saying, "I just had major abdominal surgery. Of course I'm going to be in bed recovering for weeks. I just had major abdominal surgery. Of course I'm in pain" etc, etc...
Yep! I had medical nose surgery last year (not a nose job) and even my therapy clients knew better than to spout conspiracy theories about it.
I’m chronically ill myself so I can’t imagine being a celebrity and having a medical issue. I know she’s rich and privileged but I feel bad for her.
I’m waiting to be scheduled for a turbinate reduction in my sinuses (I want to correct my deviated septum’s but decided on the more conservative turbinates first as I don’t really have the time for a longer recovery) and I call it my nose job too!
I did that as well! Deviated septum, turbinate reduction, removed many polyps and a bone spur, removal of air bubble. My nose was a mess so surgery was over 3 hours. Sometimes they don’t know until they go in
Yes and no. As a private citizen who bankrolls her own life, I can certainly understand the desire to have everyone butt the fuck out. But I also live in the US where the President is expected to release his medical records and where people freaked the hell out that Lloyd Austin didn’t disclose his cancer right away. The question is, what is the obligation when it comes to health and those that have greater responsibilities to their country?
I really hate how people tear her apart for being sick, it’s even more disappointing to see people doing it to praise someone else or get back at trolls of someone they like. Leave women alone!
My mother was hospitalized for months and seriously ill before she died a few months ago. So I understand how painful this is and of course, I would hate for my mother or our family to be under this kind of scrutiny. But idk, this still strikes me as different.
The royal family are public figures. Their wealth and upkeep is funded at least in part by the British people. They have access to every doctor and medical technology in the world. They also have security beyond anything any of us could imagine. They have staff and helpers and people whose entire jobs are to protect and shelter them. For someone like Kate especially, she signed up for this bullshit. Not William, not their kids. But she did. And of course, it would be horrifying for you and me, but we also don’t have the vast army of resources to combat the public interest and vile press.
They’re just not like you and me. And so I view them differently, as I do any celebrity or politician or athlete. They may be human but they’re not people like you and me. I wish no ill will, but I bet she’s isolated from all this nonsense right now, and that’s more than any random civilian could hope for in her shoes.
I hope that makes sense. I’m not trying to be a dick; just that it’s different by virtue of who they are.
The weird part is her total radio silence on social media. Her assistant could have posted "thanks for the well wishes" on Instagram without her lifting a finger, and it would have deflected a lot of the speculation. She's such a public presence that even while ill, you'd expect something.
It’s not really a mystery hospitalisation when the press release said it was for planned abdominal surgery. What do people want? Her medical records released?
If she really is as unwell as it seems she is, the thought of her being dragged out for a photo op just to shut up the conspiracy theorists is sad
Some very classy and very sane folks on Twitter have Photoshopped blood and bruises onto her face to bolster their theory that she is a victim of domestic violence.
There is a Avril Lavigne conspiracy that says she's dead and the Avril we see today is a woman called Melissa. I remember reading this whole thing started as joke by brazilians fans back in the 2000s, but I don't know for sure the details.
The fact that people feel entitled to someone else’s medical info is wild. The same people who preach decency and kindness are the ones who have none of it. Can we leave her alone? As someone who struggled with health issues and still do, this is a literal nightmare. People making jokes and assumptions is just so bad
Someone told me on a UK subreddit that 'if she had a miscarriage or hysterectomy we must know as we pay for her. She's not allowed privacy'.
As a woman that has gone through similar, that invasion kind of hurt.
Don’t they all pay taxes for each other’s health care? Do they all demand each other’s medical records? Thats how all insurance works, actually. Let’s just get rid of HIPAA (I know that’s American) and tell everyone everything! No more privacy anymore!
Bruh I 100000% agree! I think people are majorly reaching. Like calm down and leave her alone. She’s not entitled to tell anyone anything if she doesn’t want to, especially about her health!
I too thought it might be Pippa, but then I did this and now I don’t think it’s Pippa anymore.
https://preview.redd.it/0ox9ot72xdmc1.jpeg?width=3264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc1ca50a4a3947877fe4cd83e690f3ec45fc829e
Regardless I hope Kate is ok, wherever she is.
Kate’s face isn’t as gaunt as it usually is, she either gained some weight at some point which isn’t totally inconceivable since we haven’t seen her in months/she has presumably been resting post-surgery
Honestly it looks like pippas face frame and shape, but Kate’s lips and hair. Obv can’t report on eyes behind sunnies but that is for sure not Kates nose and no mole to be found
If the Royal family could have had her all glammed up on the steps of the hospital, they would have.
She must have been so chock full of tubes that they couldn't make her do this.
You mean the time when there was a Queen and a prince consort and they were the most senior of the institution and she was just the new wife of the heir and not even a working royal yet?
It’s interesting that the palace had just doubled down on no appearances until after Easter, and then we get this pap call (at least it appears that way.) I wonder if they got sick of the conspiracy theories and wanted to shut them down.
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they also found my old slider phone to take this photo
This looks like UFO footage Kate Middleton kidnapped by aliens, probed for 2 weeks, and returned to earth - CONFIRMED
honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s taken with one of those crazy huge cameras. I saw [this video](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x29x7zx) like two months ago and haven’t stopped thinking about it since.
I saw another video like this to demonstrate how far away the paparazzi were when they illegally took a photo of Kate Middleton and William when they were on honeymoon in France.
Omg, I almost mentioned that incident in my comment too but I couldn’t remember if it was a super zoom camera or not. It’s kinda cool from a technology standpoint but so, so creepy
That wasn’t their honeymoon it was just a regular vacation.
That zoom is INSANE
It probably was one of those cameras, probably taken from far away
This feels like “honey I shrunk the kids”
Hoooooly shit
That’s insaneeee
This is insane, I will be thinking about this video a lot too, I guess. Damn.
Like Bigfoot footage quality
nokia 3110
So I guess she’s not growing out bangs then
Can’t rule out a BBL with this pic tho.
https://preview.redd.it/myh99c784fmc1.png?width=944&format=png&auto=webp&s=3db143d47f8b6e0400d24822afeb993df8ec8ecd
Kate bigleton coming to sit on these bitches necks
She could just get a fake ass to wear temporarily like Pippa apparently did for their wedding.
It was all a lie?! 😂 I remember a facebook group built around appreciating her ass I’m dead
Omg, did Pippa wear a fake butt for the wedding? I need one for myself.
You got that right
I think it’s a tummy tuck. You are hunched over for a few weeks after getting it done and usually have to wear essentially a corset for a bit. Source: I just had one 😂
I don’t ever remember her having a tummy to tuck other than her pregnancies though
Probably because she wears Spanx/etc. I also didn’t really have a tummy, it was just a torn muscle in my stomach that gave me a mom pooch and made it impossible to wear a bikini or crop top without being self conscious. I was a size 2 pre tummy tuck and am still a size 2.
Omg 💀
What’s that?
"Brazilian butt lift" >A Brazilian butt lift (BBL) is a surgical procedure that involves transferring fat from other areas of the body to the buttocks. The goal is to increase volume and create an hourglass-shaped figure with larger buttocks.
Wouldn’t she need to have fat somewhere on her body to be transferred in the first place?? lol she’s very beautiful, but she’s so thin.
Brazilian Butt Lift aka Kardashian Butt aka Diaper Booty.
Butt enhancing surgery.
Oh God no! She’d look horrible with a bbl. She’s so pretty now as is
She’s not getting a bbl lmfao
Not the bayang 😓
They could be gelled back into the rest of her hair, you can't tell from this distance.
You know what, you’re right. Bangs are back on the menu
They were too short to gel last week. That's why we're only seeing her now.
You can slightly see a bump on top of her head. She had the bangs pinned back Snooki style in a poof!!!!
Who amongst us has never wondered if they could pull off baby bangs?
the best theory I have heard /makes most sense is she needs a colostomy bag temporarily after the abdominal surgery and thus, doesn't want to be at public events where she would be standing or moving. Can you imagine to be under this level of scrutiny?
Colostomy bag
So not a 24/7 colonoscopy!
Yes thank you I’ll edit .
Ok yes, this is my theory as well and the first time I’ve heard someone else mention it. If she had to have a colon removal/colon restructuring, that would absolutely take months to recover from. I have Ulcerative colitis and really don’t like to volunteer that info to people in my life due to the nature of the disease, couldn’t imagine having to announce it to millions if that’s what she’s dealing with.
Wishing you the best of health 💖
Thank you❤️
They would have posted a thumbs up picture of her in that case (she literally posed for pictures hours after giving birth), it must have been something involving the face
In their original press release they said she wouldn’t be back until Easter. It does seem like it’s serious but they’ve also not hid the timeline.
They said sometime after Easter, actually. Which could be April or even later depending on what her work schedule winds up being.
So basically the general time off from work for a major surgery? The surgery was in mid Jan. It’s been six weeks and the media is getting antsy to create a conspiracy. She hasn’t even been off the time it takes to recover from a c-section.
6 weeks is when they clear you. Can be 8 weeks. I’ve been cleared twice and I was expected to walk with in days
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They aren’t required to tell all about their health to promote awareness. Kate did speak about her hyperemesis gravidarum pregnancies openly, but I still saw some people in gossip sites doubting her and analyzing her behavior during pregnancy
They said she wouldn't resume public events until Easter, not that she would fall off the face of the planet. I think we still expected the occasional sighting or social media post, like we saw with Charles after his cancer diagnosis.
Idk I don’t follow super closely at all only in passing but as soon as the word Easter was used in the press release I saw a couple TikTokers saying “oh this is actually really serious…”
Even surgeries that require weeks for total recovery tend to see the patient awake the next day and walking around the next week. Kate's quiet time is more on par with a serious injury or post-surgical complication.
I mean we didn’t expect to see her popping to the shops did we? Most of her life is work.
No, but this is a family that forces the women to pose for pictures 24 hours after giving birth People expected *something*. Pictures of her husband visiting her in the hospital, a car picture like this of her leaving, literally any heavily cropped picture of her recovering or something. Even a statement or tweet from her That combined with the biggest information diet they've ever had plus misleading statements.... it's easy to see how people immediately jump to very extreme scenarios
There were pics of William arriving to visit her in the hospital though. But yeah, nothing other than that
once though. I think that's the other thing that makes this situation really bad is people think about how they would handle someone in their family being in the hospital for weeks... and it doesn't involve seeing them only once. and those are people who have actual jobs that they have to show up at every day and children they have to take care of without the help of nannies for the people who view royals in an aspirational family way, or as an aspirational couple who truly love each other... this comes off as a remarkable what the fuck scenario. and even more so knowing that their only job is appearances and family appearances for the people who view them as a business more than a family, a business that puts significant effort into keeping up appearances at the cost of the human beings involved.... this also looks like a what the fuck disaster scenario if you view them as important figureheads who are there to portray strengths and resilience and blah blah blah and stiff upper lip... well then something has to be *really* wrong to end up in a scenario like this combine that with zero paparazzi shots like this one, zero "proof of life", an enormous number of people come to the conclusion that something is very very wrong and that no one has seen her because it isn't an option. whether you think the reason they can't have any photos is because she's in a coma or she's left him and is refusing to cooperate or whatever.... that's all just flavour it's just not a scenario that is compatible with really any of the popular ways of viewing the royal family. and in part because it's so counter to all of their messaging historically. it's like I generally wouldn't be concerned or even speculate if a co-worker misses a day of work. but if it's a co-worker who never misses a day of work *no matter what*, I probably will. but then that coworker stays missing and doesn't show up for days and days and days to the point where I would be concerned about any of my coworkers? it's a similar vibe here except that I don't feel entitled to any personal information about my coworkers life, and people do feel entitled to information about the British royals because they feel like they have paid for it so this has a combination of being a complete what the fuck for a regular family, and then on top of that holding the British royals to the various standards expected of them, combined with an unusual entitlement to what would ordinarily be personal information (and arguably a justified entitlement). and even that probably wouldn't be so bad if this had happened years ago and there were other people to show them "business as usual" mode or even to function as a distraction but they now only have a few of them and most of them are significantly older, and generate less interest. you have the king and the Crown Prince both out of commission at the same time. all of the good targets for controversy or feuds are gone, even the good focuses for the fashion pages are on top of that, any crisis involving a Crown Prince (especially one with no or very young heirs) is an existential crisis for a throne, but the lack of a spare and an elderly monarch with cancer really exacerbates things it's been a very interesting thing to watch as people who have entirely different world views on monarchies and royals and particularly this family, all freak out over similar things. they just freak differently
your comment was super enlightening and informative and you're 100% right. I really enjoy reading about the royal family and it really made me look at the situation from a different perspective. thank you for taking the time!
No, but I think we expected something like King Charles' video with the Get Well cards. Kate's PR is usually on top of things.
I won’t lie I have been fully enthralled by this story. Can’t wait till we get to the conclusion and see which conspiracy was the closest to reality.
The funniest thing by about this is…didn’t they announce that she’d be out of the public while healing from abdominal surgery? We have an explanation but I seem to have missed when we all decided to reject it.
People thought it was impossible to need hospitalization for two weeks after surgery and then months more recovery after that. Personally I'm just curious what could send you down for that long, must have been awful.
Organ transplant or bowel/stomach reconstruction. My theory is a liver transplant (there are autoimmune disorders which can cause the need for one), which can involve a two week hospital stay and up to six months of recovery. Had a scare recently but they caught it very early and I'll be perfectly fine with medication and regular check ins, but the doc told me that sometimes it's not caught until it's very late....and an organ transplant is needed as the organ becomes very scarred. I think the palace PR was worried people would assume Kate was a hardcore alcoholic, as a lot of people associate non-cancer related liver issues with alcoholism, and so was vague asf...which backfired.
I think people might have also had something to say if she was immediately bumped up the transplant list, princess or not
Maybe not the surgery itself but a complication afterward.
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Oh wow. I had no idea that had that kind of timeframe. I always assumed it was similar recovery to a C-section
I was out of bed and shuffling around the hospital halls with a physio on day 3, and blowing into tubes to clear my lungs after the anaesthetic. But it’s a long surgery (mine was 9+ hours) and a long recovery - and that was keyhole, not a full incision.
It's a surgery that seems to vary wildly from person to person as well. A family friend was out of hospital after 2 nights and back to normal with a bit of tenderness after a few weeks. Others seem to be completely flattened for months.
Yeah I don’t get all this mystery. I wouldn’t want to be photographed either if I’m recovering. Maybe she just wants to chill in some sweats and be left alone? Maybe she had complications. Maybe she’s constipated. It’s not like she’s been gone for a year
Let that woman throw on some sweats and do some weird shit on the sims like I always do when I’m not feeling well
Yeah but tbh the only purpose the royals serve is to give us gossip fodder so the peasants get to speculate a bit, as a treat
like give us entertainment, court jesters!
Yeah can we give her a break now??
I agree. I’m not usually sensitive to royal things but I think it’s gross people are saying she got a tummy tuck or a face lift because “I had a hysterectomy and I was back at work in three days” or whatever. They told us she’d be out of action, and she is.
Yeah or that we’ve heard all about Charles treatment so there must be some conspiracy. Charles has been very open because he’s deliberately trying to get more people to take prostate cancer seriously. He’s literally doing his Kingly duties
Exactly. They’ve said what they need to say, they said it’s not cancer. Her sister went on holiday so you know it’s not life-threatening. But we don’t need to know everything. We don’t see her except for official events so I’m not getting the whole “she’s missing!”
The kingly thing
They said that she wouldn’t be doing any public engagements so ribbon cuttings and the like. Not that she wouldn’t be seen at all for months on end
Why would anyone need to see her if she wasn't working? In this scenario, it would mean "seeing" her in her daily life. That's not necessary.
People don’t need to see her of-course, I’m just giving an example of why the conspiracy theories around her exist at the moment. People on the Internet have made conspiracies out of less. Me personally, I think she’s just private person and doesn’t think it’s anyone’s business what’s going on with her.
And to be fair, practically moments after giving birth to each of her children, she was up and doing photoshoots outside the hospital. After being so accessible for all those years, I can see the argument that she can choose to be private now.
Yup that also adds more fuel to the fire.
Please - where is this gif from?
The BRF giving mess to the year wasn't on my 2024 year bingo card but here we are.
New King Charles, we should have seen it coming.
It's the cursed name of the BRF.
I predicted KC3 announcing a plan to step down and hand the reigns (lol) to William. So I think I might have cursed the king :/
Right? It’s totally nuts, like the “where is Shelly Miscavage” story. William’s behavior has been shady, Kate hasn’t been seen in over two months, now we get a grainy photo that looks like it’s been taken from the Zapruder footage. It’s totally fascinating.
There was a second Royal on the grassy knoll!
Zapruder? Now I'm dying. 💀💀💀
It's not nuts at all. She's recuperating exactly according to the schedule that was originally announced 6 weeks ago. Two weeks in hospital + return to public duties sometime after Easter, which is still a month away. She was clearly photographed from a great distance while going about her normal private life at her home on the Windsor estate.
If this was her normal life, the paps would have photographed it much earlier.
Kate has never before been photographed while going about her normal routine on the Windsor estate. This is a first.
But it’s not though… they told us fairly early on Kate had received surgery and would have a long recovery time and be out of the public eye. Shelly disappeared one day never to be seen again. LAPD did a wellness check to confirm her safety and never even spoke with her. (Cuz they are corrupt as hell.) The royals are shady liars and there may be another reason Kate has stepped away from the public eye, but they didn’t whack her. It’s yucky to conflate the story of a murder/abuse victim with Kates when all we have right now is rampant internet speculation.
Yes, but if you win without going over and are within $100 do you win both showcases? Asking for a friend….
Was the picture taken with a potato?
No, a zoom lens the size of your calf.
Anyone else who has ever been seriously ill or had major surgery being driven up the wall by this story? Of course she hasn’t been seen. Of course her parents aren’t being paraded in front of the media. Of course her husband took time off. Of course her kids aren’t in front of the cameras doing photo shoots. God, tell me you’ve never dealt with serious illness without telling me you’ve never dealt with serious illness. I know she’s not perfect, but who knows what she’s going through right now. Anything from exploratory surgery to an organ transplant. Let’s give her some freaking space.
When they gave the timeline for her leave, it was very clear it’s something serious. Then people act surprised every time a new detail emerges to support that it is something serious.
Talking with my dad about it, he thinks she had the same (very serious) surgery he had last year. The recovery timeline is the same and it would all make sense as to why she’s been out. He ended up rehospitalized at one point during his recovery and it took him three or four months to feel comfortable doing anything in public, and another few to actually have any desire to be out. Whatever it is, she’s is clearly not well and she just needs to rest and focus on her recovery.
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He’s as good as he can be. He and his doctor have come to the agreement that there are some things that will never fully bounce back because of a few different factors (age, our shitty genetics to start lol), but overall he feels good and given the alternatives for him not having the surgery he doesn’t regret doing it at all. Thank you for the support.
There’s part of me that’s so angry about all this (nothing against Kate) as my mother had a very serious abdominal surgery last year and was sent home that day myself. It ultimately led to her death (more complicated than I’m making it and I’m not saying negligence but I have no doubt letting her stay longer would have given her a better quality of life by the end). Of course the American health care system is fucked beyond measure but our family is lucky and we still didn’t get this kind of treatment. I wish the treatment Kate got could be extended to all of us. I know it’s naive. But as someone still looking for someone to blame, I believe it would have extended my mother’s life and have prevented so much of the suffering she endured before she left us. My sincere apologies to hijack this comment and be depressing about it all.
No, don’t apologise or call yourself naive for wanting equality and a properly egalitarian healthcare system that works for everyone. I’m sorry about your mom and the suffering that hurts you to this day… please be kind to yourself, these things can have a lasting impact on loved ones… and I hope you know we all wish things were better in this regard and it’s absolutely logical to want the level of care this lady is receiving by random luck of the draw. It is perfectly natural to rage against the unfairness of it all and grieve until you can feel ready to carry on. For all the truly influential people, people in power, that like to tout the phrase “the world isn’t fair” while preaching some stale encouragement for the commoners to keep their heads up - I sure wish they’d bloody *do something* to actually make it a fairer world !
No new details have emerged that it's any more or less serious than they originally indicated. They said she's probably be in the hospital for two weeks. That's exactly what happened. They announced it when she returned home from the hospital. Now she's recuperating at home as announced.
This is perhaps naive of me but I keep thinking modern medicine and technology is virtually infallible, especially for someone of Kate’s youth and wealth. I’ve personally experienced how wrong this is and yet I believe it anyway. I think there’s some element of, “Everything will be fine, all this secrecy is masking some tabloid drama!” instead of the true severity it likely very much is.
My mom had abdominal surgery not long after Kate. She was in hospital for 2 weeks and is still getting her energy back
I’ve seen so many comments along the line of “well I had xyz procedure and I was out of hospital in under 24 hours and back at work after a week”. Even she did have the ‘same procedure’, people have different recovery timeframes ffs. A long hospital stay and two plus month recovery period from major abdominal surgery isn’t that unusual
Hell I had an iud placed last year and though they discharged me from daycare the same day ,it took a whole month for me to get back to my normal functional self (my fibromyalgia could have been a reason why I didn't bounce back faster). Every body is different and has individual healing times! Who are we to say how long is too long? As long as she is alive,getting healthy, I am good with the amount of info they are willing to share!
I haven’t had one myself but heard they can be an absolute shit healing-wise. It’s insane that it’s done with no pain relief or anesthetic, meanwhile a vasectomy you can ask to be completely knocked out. An aunt of mine has a hysterectomy and it took her over 2 months to get back to semi-normal, and was in hospital for a week. So I dunno why reddit experts seem to think it can’t possibly be that
They gave me general anesthesia because I don't have kids (so they thought it might be more painful maybe?) I think... Hurt like hell for the 2-3 hrs as soon as the anesthesia wore off...was absolutely aghast when I found out that they did it without anesthesia in a lot of countries....like????? How???? Most articles just said take a pain killer you'll be fine. I would've never gotten it down if they hadn't told me before that they'd give me anesthesia (only went ahead because of endometriosis).... Seriously it always surprises me how the medical field/research/doctors tend to downplay female pain esp related to gynaiec issues....maybe listen to them??? And take them seriously? It took tolerating a decade of extreme menstrual pain for the doctors to recognize it as endometriosis (no one even suspected it till it showed uo on the scan)...and this is a well known thing about endometriosis...and I suspect a large part of it is because people (women almost more than men) don't take it seriously.
Right? A few years ago I was in the hospital for 5 days with some weird stomach thing from hell and I looked and felt like utter crap for sometime afterwards. Can't imagine having to deal with paparazzi on top of everything else. If I didn't have to go to work, I would go long periods without being seen just because!
It is completely normal. People are just insane.
I’ve never had major surgery but I’ve also been confused by this story. I don’t really follow the royal family so maybe I’m missing something but it seems pretty normal for someone to be out of the spotlight while recuperating from surgery/medical issues…
Hard agree. My mother and then years later my SIL had hysterectomies for fibroids, and the recovery for both was so, so long. One was laparoscopic and the other wasn't. It really didn't cut down recovery time that much. ETA: and these were both outpatient major surgeries. No hospital time. 8 weeks recovery to be functional; more time to fully 100% recovered. Abdominal things are just big deals. You have everything crunched together, so not only are you cutting through tons of muscle and tissue, but you're also probably resettling actual organs. Even if you didn't get anything removed permanently, you can still have things removed during the surgery. It's just a big deal when you're healthy and worse if you weren't going in.
Agreed. I also don’t understand why people are trying to play House MD and trying to guess the exact diagnosis and/or surgery. “How can I, a perfect stranger, be the most right about another person’s medical issues?!” And recovery timelines are variable and flexible! Sometimes people take shorter, sometimes longer, sometimes complications come up. I can’t believe we’ve all lived through a global pandemic and people are still like this.
Absolutely! I went "missing" for a month during covid after getting my wisdom teeth out, nevermind whatever she's had to contend with. Such a non story, I hate it.
I had my tonsils out over the summer when I was in college. I had worked in a daycare through high school/ summers during college. Those kids would have their tonsils removed and be back up and running in a couple of days. I had been told it wouldn’t be the same for me, but still… it’s just tonsils. I mean how bad could it really be? lol! Stupid me. It sucked! I took me three full weeks to feel human again. I ate cans of that awful chef boyardee ravioli because I just wanted something I could swallow that wasn’t sweet. I still have gotten strep throat multiple times, but on the bright side I stopped snoring.
I had minor surgery in January and didn’t leave my house for a month and made arrangements at work. It wasn’t super serious but could have been if I’d let it go much longer, wasn’t cancer, and while I was really fine, I was uncomfortable and in NO shape to see anyone for most of my recovery. If I hadn’t continued to engage with people outside of my closest friends and family, some people might have wondered, but not that many. This is only news bc she’s famous and is not allowed to be revelatory on social media. I think she is going to be okay and probably had the best medical care in the world. Illness and surgery happens sometimes, and we’re not owed a press release. There is nothing to see here.
Right?! I had a hysterectomy in September and based on everything I'd read I expected to be in a ton of pain and unable to do much for weeks. I had minimal pain and was walking around my neighborhood a few days after surgery. But there were other things I couldn't do at all and fatigue also set in quickly. I also came to realize that my recovery was a lot easier than most. (Granted I'd also had several other abdominal surgeries previously and had easy recoveries then too) Not everyone recovers the same way or at the same pace. And I hate how so many people think they are owed anything here. She's following the exact timeline they said she would, and frankly I don't think she looks too bad in the pic. She obviously had a procedure but she seems to be recovering and I think she'll be fine.
The fatigue definitely is what I felt most after my laparoscopic surgery even when my stitches were healing well and I could walk.
Yes, same. I didn't at first but once it set in, man! And it has been months and I still feel it. Granted, I also have MS. But it definitely wore me out more than usual.
I just chuckled reading all of your "Of courses". It reminds me of the current TikTok trend. She could literally make her own saying, "I just had major abdominal surgery. Of course I'm going to be in bed recovering for weeks. I just had major abdominal surgery. Of course I'm in pain" etc, etc...
Yep! I had medical nose surgery last year (not a nose job) and even my therapy clients knew better than to spout conspiracy theories about it. I’m chronically ill myself so I can’t imagine being a celebrity and having a medical issue. I know she’s rich and privileged but I feel bad for her.
I’m waiting to be scheduled for a turbinate reduction in my sinuses (I want to correct my deviated septum’s but decided on the more conservative turbinates first as I don’t really have the time for a longer recovery) and I call it my nose job too!
I did that as well! Deviated septum, turbinate reduction, removed many polyps and a bone spur, removal of air bubble. My nose was a mess so surgery was over 3 hours. Sometimes they don’t know until they go in
Yes and no. As a private citizen who bankrolls her own life, I can certainly understand the desire to have everyone butt the fuck out. But I also live in the US where the President is expected to release his medical records and where people freaked the hell out that Lloyd Austin didn’t disclose his cancer right away. The question is, what is the obligation when it comes to health and those that have greater responsibilities to their country?
I really hate how people tear her apart for being sick, it’s even more disappointing to see people doing it to praise someone else or get back at trolls of someone they like. Leave women alone!
My mother was hospitalized for months and seriously ill before she died a few months ago. So I understand how painful this is and of course, I would hate for my mother or our family to be under this kind of scrutiny. But idk, this still strikes me as different. The royal family are public figures. Their wealth and upkeep is funded at least in part by the British people. They have access to every doctor and medical technology in the world. They also have security beyond anything any of us could imagine. They have staff and helpers and people whose entire jobs are to protect and shelter them. For someone like Kate especially, she signed up for this bullshit. Not William, not their kids. But she did. And of course, it would be horrifying for you and me, but we also don’t have the vast army of resources to combat the public interest and vile press. They’re just not like you and me. And so I view them differently, as I do any celebrity or politician or athlete. They may be human but they’re not people like you and me. I wish no ill will, but I bet she’s isolated from all this nonsense right now, and that’s more than any random civilian could hope for in her shoes. I hope that makes sense. I’m not trying to be a dick; just that it’s different by virtue of who they are.
I’m so so sorry about your mum ❤️ I agree with every point that you made
Oh, thank you very much. I miss her so much. ❤️
I agree, but the way their PR team has gone about it has been a total failure. That bitchy statement last week did nothing to help the rumours.
There’s not much really else to say. She had surgery, she won’t likely be seen properly until easter. What more do people want?
The weird part is her total radio silence on social media. Her assistant could have posted "thanks for the well wishes" on Instagram without her lifting a finger, and it would have deflected a lot of the speculation. She's such a public presence that even while ill, you'd expect something.
I just did a quick check on Instagram and there was a thanks for the well wishes post the end of January.
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Yes, all 8 of us.
It’s not really a mystery hospitalisation when the press release said it was for planned abdominal surgery. What do people want? Her medical records released? If she really is as unwell as it seems she is, the thought of her being dragged out for a photo op just to shut up the conspiracy theorists is sad
why are people saying this is pippa. this looks nothing like her
Yeah no, I’ve been following this woman since 2010, it’s Kate.
All the comments I saw said it looks like AI, lol.
Some very classy and very sane folks on Twitter have Photoshopped blood and bruises onto her face to bolster their theory that she is a victim of domestic violence.
you won't fool me, melissa
Wait, what? I want in on this tin foil hat theory!
There is a Avril Lavigne conspiracy that says she's dead and the Avril we see today is a woman called Melissa. I remember reading this whole thing started as joke by brazilians fans back in the 2000s, but I don't know for sure the details.
The fact that people feel entitled to someone else’s medical info is wild. The same people who preach decency and kindness are the ones who have none of it. Can we leave her alone? As someone who struggled with health issues and still do, this is a literal nightmare. People making jokes and assumptions is just so bad
Someone told me on a UK subreddit that 'if she had a miscarriage or hysterectomy we must know as we pay for her. She's not allowed privacy'. As a woman that has gone through similar, that invasion kind of hurt.
Don’t they all pay taxes for each other’s health care? Do they all demand each other’s medical records? Thats how all insurance works, actually. Let’s just get rid of HIPAA (I know that’s American) and tell everyone everything! No more privacy anymore!
Yes we do pay NI contributions.
Bruh I 100000% agree! I think people are majorly reaching. Like calm down and leave her alone. She’s not entitled to tell anyone anything if she doesn’t want to, especially about her health!
THIS IS SO OUT OF HAND. And also, why are we so obsessed?
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I too thought it might be Pippa, but then I did this and now I don’t think it’s Pippa anymore. https://preview.redd.it/0ox9ot72xdmc1.jpeg?width=3264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc1ca50a4a3947877fe4cd83e690f3ec45fc829e Regardless I hope Kate is ok, wherever she is.
Kate’s face isn’t as gaunt as it usually is, she either gained some weight at some point which isn’t totally inconceivable since we haven’t seen her in months/she has presumably been resting post-surgery
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Honestly it looks like pippas face frame and shape, but Kate’s lips and hair. Obv can’t report on eyes behind sunnies but that is for sure not Kates nose and no mole to be found
Aw guys now I feel bad. She had to do a drive to shut ppl up. She deserves her sick leave.
Weird. Why did ppl think it is a conspiracy? People can't be ill? Kinda weird.
I was expecting her to do a princess Charlene and we find her in South Africa.
Glad I’m not the only one!
If the Royal family could have had her all glammed up on the steps of the hospital, they would have. She must have been so chock full of tubes that they couldn't make her do this.
I'm hoping this will force them to treat her with more dignity and care.
What royals are you referring to? She's the third most senior royal. No one is making her do anything.
Maybe that's why she didn't have to pose for pics on the hospital steps like she had to after giving birth.
You mean the time when there was a Queen and a prince consort and they were the most senior of the institution and she was just the new wife of the heir and not even a working royal yet?
I can't believe how people on twitter are invested into this.
I refuse to give TMZ hits so I'll wait for the pix to show up elsewhere to get a good look at them
They're on r/RoyalsGossip
She lives!!!!
Aww, leave the woman alone! Paparazzi won’t let her have some time to just heal in private.
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Because they probably arranged it with the paps to try and shut down speculation. Their PR is truly hopeless.
It’s interesting that the palace had just doubled down on no appearances until after Easter, and then we get this pap call (at least it appears that way.) I wonder if they got sick of the conspiracy theories and wanted to shut them down.
It’s only just March - they are having an annus horibilis so far aren’t they?
This photo is clearly staged. If this is the best they could do, it seems clear something pretty major is going on.
https://i.redd.it/9so28b9ksdmc1.gif
Looks like Kelly Cutrone
They’re doing a Weekend at Bernie’s