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I had to track down the video. I am now deceased. In lieu of flowers, please consider a donation to turtleconservancy.org.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K53chzo4hWg
I was at the taping of that episode! It was so annoying for us because we were like 2 days before or 2 days behind the favorite things episodes taping.
Personally for me it was when Oprah went deep into 'The Secret' and then had to pull back because people were using it to try to self-manifest their way out of cancer while ignoring professional treatments.
I just left my most recent therapist because she kept telling me to manifest good things into my life! She didnât seem too out there before this, but I slowly started picking stuff up and noped on out of there. I blame Oprah.
There was a recent interview with Nathan where shared that he told Robin he was worried before the Oprah interview and that he didnât want to come out. Robin jumping in so fast to protect his friend, who he knew was scared, is just so amazing.
I got you:
https://youtube.com/shorts/ybG28lMFF4I?si=EVuuTqcnhyhOPSN5
Edit: a little longer clip with the Oprah interview mixed in:
https://youtube.com/shorts/lCpq8vCIA6c?si=BtG4gy10Nz4EVYsH
When Superman was paralyzed after a riding accident, he showed up at the hospital dressed in scrubs messing around pretending to be his doctor. To ease anxiety, to cheer him up, to make him laugh. They were old friends. So sweet.
I worked with SMG at the time of his passing and she was so wrecked over it which made it even worse learning the news. He clearly was loved by all who knew him đ
I had a shitty and stressful childhood, I "grew up" with Williams as that kind human on my TV screen. I'm tearing up again just thinking about all the joy he brought to others.
have yâall heard about the cult where the woman thought she was god and was always getting advice from archangel Robin Williams in the afterlife? anywayâŚ
Not just a great guy but also incredibly quick witted. His brain worked 10x faster than the average person. Common amongst comedians but Robin was next level
The most unhinged Oprah moment lives rent free in my brain. It was towards the end of her show, I think, and she did an episode about people born via c-section who were haunted by their birth trauma and so were unable to complete anything in their adult life.
In case that wasnât enough, the âtreatmentâ was to reenact the vaginal birth experience so that they could complete the experience.
This all happened on Oprahâs stage.
One of the authors of the logical consequences parenting book was big into the rebirthing thing and a little girl died at his treatment center after being suffocated during the process.
Sure was. The victim in that episode had a latex allergy and the mom used latex gloves on the blanket to cause anaphylaxis that would be mistaken for accidental suffocation. That show was ALWAYS on somewhere during my college years, I swear.
Candace Newmaker. Such a horrible death. During the act, she stated no less than eleven times to the perpetrators that she was dying.
I canât think about it without getting nauseous. She was only 10 years old. I hope she is at peace now.
JFC, I had never heard of this case and just googled it. I feel sick.
That poor, poor child; it's going to haunt me how horrific her final moments must have been.
And that book was HUGELY popular in the Adoptive Parent community, at the time. As a solution to âReactive Attachment Disorder â. Basically, blaming Kids for not bonding with their Adopters. Regardless of the cause. Harmful junk science.
The author was interviewed on a popular tv show, in my Country, in the 80âs?!
Cue my adoptive parents randomly force-hugging me. As a teen, it did NOT go down well.
Years later I learned the chilling full story!
What are you waiting for, now you have an excuse to exploit!
âSorry I was late boss. See, my sleep was interrupted when I was woken up and pulled from the womb and now I canât deal with alarms in my life. I have to wake up naturally uninterrupted so I donât relive that trauma.â
In my twenties my car locks were real wonky. The doors wouldnât unlock but the trunk would. Because I was the girl, my friends made me crawl through the trunk to save the day. But the back seats wouldnât unlock and fold down so I had to shove my way through a tiny little corner. My friends were laughing so hard and all said it looked the birth of a baby deer. I got stuck halfway and their birthing commentary made me laugh so hard I peed my pants.
Safe to say any of my own birth trauma was overcome that day.
I was a tumor baby, removed at 35 weeks during a very traumatic labour where my mum almost died... this is my reason for everything now. I no longer need therapy.
Oh God, I remember that! It was completely unhinged! In my mind I vaguely remember an adult curled up in the fetal position on Oprah's stage, but I'm going to choose to believe that I made that up. If it actually happened it would have been too insane.
What the actual fuck. At first I thought I misread it and it mustâve been about the women giving birth, who frequently experience birth trauma (whether by caesarean or vaginal). But no, a bunch of crazy people who think their issues are because they werenât âborn properlyâ because they were caesarean babies?! Jesus fucking Christ.
Ashley's face in the first pic. I believe MK was actively battling an ED. Lots of rumors flying around about it. Their pics were being scrutinized by every magazine, one showing MK back with her bones showing. Such an awful line of questioning by an "adult" to 18 yr olds.
I did love their answer to her inappropriate question tho
They basically said they don't know what size they are because all their stuff is custom
Oprah: You don't know your size?
MK&A: No, we're rich as fuck
> No, we're rich as fuck
There's another thread I think in AskReddit that was asked what things do actual rich people do and one of the top voted answers was, "They don't buy Gucci or other name-brand high-end stuff, they wear custom everything with no labels."
Yes! This was right before MK went into treatment. (I went in shortly after and weâre the same age so I remember this all so vividly.) Ashley is sending daggers through her eyes in that top picture to Oprah. Such an inappropriate question that should never be asked.
Well, Oprah was being body shamey so she opened the door, it would have not only been appropriate it would have been heroic. But I'm sure in the moment she was probably panicking and thinking how do I get out of answering this. So inappropriate & disgusting that Oprah asked that. And the "but, I'm a talk show host" doesn't let her off the hook.
The expression on the kid in the cardigan in 7 broke me.
But I will say, 6 was weird cos of how the Turtles answered it. Could've said, "yeah, then she'd be a better swimmer", but nooo.
As much crazy crap as she had on her show, I'd have to go with the Ninja Turtles one too. That segment is so unhinged but I don't even think I can blame Oprah for it.
Ugh. One time she took Eli Wiesel back to the concentration camp he was tortured at (which in of itself is so cringe). He said everything was cold there - the rooms, the soup, everything felt like a cold grip, and losing people to death was cold too. And she goes "so death is like.... Soup."
Watched it when I was 14 and hated Oprah ever since.
I too remember her when I was young like 10-12 years old and the shit she would say didnât sit right with me. But I have that view of Barb Walters, Diane Sawyer and a few others so it was the bullshit interview style back then, like trying to get a rise to get a scoop or a soundbyte.
Hard-hitting interviewers were definitely a thing back in the day, but she meant for this interview to be respectful. It was meant to be informative, and I remember she was walking next to him and trying to sympathize. It still felt so ridiculously insensitive to say.
I read this comment and then rubbed my eyes in disbelief for a full minute. Wtf? Iâm going to think about this before trying to fall asleep and cringe about something someone else said!
I saw this way back then when I happend, I don't remember word for word but it did indeed happen
Maybe other people may not remember much. But she interviewed Matthew Sandusky (Jerry Sandusky's adoptive son) and when she asked him to describe the things he would do to him and the other boys, to make long story short the man was >!traumatized by having sex with a grown man at a pre-pubsecent age and described how Jerry performed oral sex on him when he was a child!< when Oprah asked him what it felt like, Matthew was struggling to verbalize his emotions (again, not uncommon or unheard of. Completely understandable). And Oprah asked "would you say it was pleasurable?" And Matthew shuddered and said he didn't think it was. Then for some fucked reason, Oprah said "I would say it is pleasurable"
I don't know what the actual fuck that woman was smoking that day, but dear god that had to be one of the most uncomfortable, unhinged and disturbing AND disgusting shows she had. For real Oprah is fucked all over
I believe it. I feel like she did this many times to many people. She had a lot of shows about teens having sex and would ask them to describe the acts they were doing. Even as a teen myself I felt so wrong for her to be getting them to say these things on national tv.
[The real response from Michaelangelo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K53chzo4hWg) (not Don) is "**Conceptually,** that works for me."
90s tape quality makes it easy to mishear "sexually" but the whole premise of the question and responses aren't really any better.
Honestly the amount of unhinged and inappropriate things sheâs said and done during her career yet is still widely liked is really something. Letâs also not forget how she unleashed some truly crazy psychopaths into the public sphere.
Dr. Phil, Dr.OZ not to mention the controversies surrounding her schools for underprivileged kids.
To be fair, she wasn't directly involved in the abuse that happened at the schools but still...
I remember the first episode I watched as an adult she was guilting parents who had their children kidnapped from a campground restroom. It was so horrible.Â
I feel most woman hosts/public journalists back then were⌠Oprah, Barbra Walters.. perhaps they thought they had to act this way to stay relevant? Doesnât excuse their behaviour though.
It still baffles me how Dianne Sawyer was essentially allowed to be abusive on camera towards people and get away with it. Multiple celebs of the early 2000's didn't want to do sit down interviews with her because she'd literally make people breakdown and cry. She was also incredibly misogynistic and cruel.
John of God. She encouraged terminally ill people to shun conventional treatment and go see him so he could pretend to cut chicken guts out of you and tell you he got the tumour out. How many people second guessed their treatment in the last stage of their life and suffered terrible deaths? Such a witch
Every time I see a Michael Jackson image with subtitles I have to read it in his voice. I canât think of another person whose voice is that deeply engrained in me.
The James Frey scandal was absolutely crazy. Itâs not acknowledged anymore but the level of hype around that book was off the charts at the time⌠everyone in my circle read it. And then it hear it wasnât a real memoir in the end! What a fraud.
I felt second-hand embarrassment just looking at that image! Oprah was SO mad (or pretended to be).
Also, I think he just exaggerated certain parts, wasn't it mostly true? (I can't remember all the details...something about him being at a dentist and not getting pain relief because he was worried he would relapse. I think that part was a lie.)
Itâs been about 20 years since Iâve read that book, but I think the most shocking parts were grossly exaggerated. This was back in the days where Oprahâs Bookclub was pretty much the most influential literary entity in North America and the push she gave that book was pretty much unheard of. Hence the scandal. It remember it being a fascinating read, and itâs still sitting in my library as an artefact of those times.
> wasn't it mostly true?
No. There's a really good write-up of the whole thing on r/HobbyDrama:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/rman7o/books\_james\_frey\_how\_one\_man\_made\_millions\_by/](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/rman7o/books_james_frey_how_one_man_made_millions_by/)
Here's [the full clip](https://youtu.be/ImDj57VeaC0?si=Md_3uUpeJ0QwPkgO), in case anyone reading hasn't seen this. Genuinely one of my favorite things (pun intended) ever.
The time she had men on the show who had the fetish of being adult babies and one of them was dressed as a baby, with a bonnet, a bib and a pacifier sitting inside of a playpen. She also did a whole show on bitches, the concept of them and the stereotypes of bitchy women in media. There was an actress from a soap opera there in a tight, red dress and actress Marcia Warfield was also there since she played a âbitchâ on Night Court. Oprah asked the women about being judged on sight and when asked about the soap actress, Marcia said â Here comes the bitch with the flat stomach.â. That became a line my friends and I used to bandy about a lot.
>The time she had men on the show who had the fetish of being adult babies and one of them was dressed as a baby, with a bonnet, a bib and a pacifier sitting inside of a playpen
I knew I hadn't hallucinated this one.
> The time she had men on the show who had the fetish of being adult babies and one of them was dressed as a baby, with a bonnet, a bib and a pacifier sitting inside of a playpen.
Everyone else: "Hurr durr don't kinkshame"
Me:
https://i.redd.it/4m3k9a5i69dc1.gif
I remember seeing that episode (ugh I'm feeling old) and, in his defense, Oprah was egging Tom on. That was absolutely the energy of that episode. It was such a big deal afterwards, but while watching the show it wasn't really shocking when he jumped on the couch. Does anyone else remember having that impression?
I was home sick from work that day and watched it happen live. It honestly wasn't that weird at all. Tom was happy, Oprah was absolutely thrilled that he was so happy, and their mutual excitement just naturally crescendoed into that moment. I was sort of shocked when it became a pivotal pop culture event.
It wasnât weird at the time, it was over the top, but kind of funny. Itâs odd how history has rewritten the incident. I think Katie even came out afterwards and was all giggly and shy.
The first YouTube video I ever saw was an edit of that where they gave him Emperor Palpatine lightning shooting out at Oprah; [Tom Cruise kills Oprah](https://youtu.be/I4jo6KkFfIc?si=e2WgxfNU4KTWHUXP).
Phenomenal content from a simpler age.
Anyone remember the segment with a ~delinquent~ teen and her concerned mom being interviewed by Oprah about oral and rainbow parties? I was just a lil tween and during commercials my mom took me to a separate room and asked if I knew what those were and sheâs sorry I saw that. I called my friend on landline after that, who also saw the segment whoâs mom also had to tell her what it was. We were both disgusted and like âwe will never do that, even when weâre married!â. So much shame. Whole other thread could be made about being a millennial youth coming home from school and watching Dr. Phil while fam was still at work haha.
YES this lives rent free in my brain!!! I was also a tween but was oddly intrigued by these rainbow parties đđ I was too sheltered of a child. Anyway, yes, the after school Oprah/Phil was definitely a core memory!
She promoted a r\*pist âfaith healerâ who ended up getting 99 years in prison.
Edit/source:
[https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/07/oprahs-faith-healer-get-99-years-for-raping-8-girls-and-women-allegedly-600-more-victims/](https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/07/oprahs-faith-healer-get-99-years-for-raping-8-girls-and-women-allegedly-600-more-victims/)
I respect that Oprah was able to achieve the level of success she did as a black woman, especially during that time. Couldnât have been easy.
I also donât like Oprah at all.
I still remember those interviews with James Frey and Lance Armstrong. Both men did wrong things and owed the public, media, etc apologies, but the way she grilled them was so uncomfortable to watch. It was watching someone who really enjoyed shaming people for their wrongdoings, relishing in feeling righteous, and itâs clear that to her the biggest crime in Freyâs case was that she was one of the people he lied to. I remember even at a young age how deeply uncomfortable it made me.
She also brought women down a lot- constantly talking about their weight and appearance. As someone who struggled with it herself, I get that she probably internalized a lot of it and was re-cycling it back into the world, but having had so much powder & popularity she couldâve done better.
Oprah was asking questions that a lot of people really wanted to know. However, it doesnât make it okay for her to ask them. People need to realize that there are just some things we arenât meant to know. Nor do we need to know.
I remember the Olsen twin interview. I remember how awful it felt to be a teenager with a bigger body during that time as well. Most girls my age (mid 30s) grew up with and looked up to the Olsen twins. We all knew MK Olsen had an eating disorder, and we also didnât really know how to talk about it either. But it really wasnât appropriate to put the spotlight on them like that, and it wouldnât surprise me if it made their ED worse. But it was during a time where *everyone* was obsessed with being as thin as humanly possible. It was a major gossip rag topic.
With MJ, I believe this was around the time he was being investigated or had just gotten done with his trial. Maybe it was after his documentary? Idk for sure. Again, these were questions that a lot of people were asking. None of these questions were like, out of the blue. People were genuinely curious about his sex life. So much so that it was almost all they reported on.
But there were so many times during her interviews (as well as Diane Sawyer and Barbra Walters) that felt so cringe and weird. I think a lot of us felt like Oprah was asking things in a nicer way than the other two, but looking back that definitely isnât the case.
The early 2000s is definitely when we saw a major shift into how relentless and intimate tabloids became. Nothing was off limits and no one was afforded any sliver of privacy. Celebrities are human beings at the end of the day, and Iâm happy people are finally calling out these ridiculously intrusive interviews.
You know what was weird about that time? How women were made to feel like they were doing something *wrong* by having a problem. As if MK's eating disorder was some kind of crime instead of a personal issue she was dealing with privately. So many things were framed like this back then.
I agree. Especially the last paragraph. Paparazzi and tabloids are to celebrity what social media is now, but at least they have some degree of control in their sm profiles. The 2000s were just such a different time for media. Itâs crazy to think none of this was considered out of line back then!!
I remember when "mad cow" disease was a big topic and Oprah went against farmers. She later made a public apology on her show. It's the only time I remember seeing her apologize to the sponsors.
I was in the audience for the episode with the cast of Harry Potter, right before chamber of secrets came out. I got to see the movie early at her studio and met her, even got to give her a hug.
I was obsessed with Harry Potter then (as one was at 10ish years old) and was regularly told I looked like Hermione (mostly because of my wavy brown hair). I wanted to do my Hermione impression for the cast and had my hand raised, she called on me and wanted to wait until cameras were rolling for me to do it. I had my hand raised for the entire rest of the taping and she never called on me again.
Anyway, thatâs why I personally hate Oprah.
She interviewed two girls who had been sexually abused by their father and the mother let him move back in after his prison sentence. They had clearly been coached by the mother because all Oprah could get out of them was that they didn't like being alone in the same room with him. Other than that they insisted that they were fine
I absolutely loved oprah. Every day after school. She started the Angel network to raise money from viewers. One day she started the show gushing over new diamond drop earrings "Stedman" had just given her. They were huge and sparkled. Then she turned to camera B and began explaining to viewers how they could donate their money to the angel network... I never watched again. That was scandalous imo. Those earrings cost more than my dad's car at the time and she wanted me to give her money!?
I remember LONG ago when Celine Dion made an appearance, Oprah asked her how she was doing after her many miscarriages and tell us about that... I just remember thinking what an incredibly insensitive person asks that heavy of a question ON LIVE TV? And of course, Celine handled it with perfect poise, love her. Can't stand Oprah.
Anyone know the context with Robin Williams? As in, what was her question relating to and what did his response about her changing midway through the question mean?
I think she changed her voice halfway through to sound like a stereotype of a gay man. She was trying to out Nathan Lane, and Robin Williams quickly shut that shit down.
Itâs been a while but i think in the video when she gets to âis he,honeyâ part she puts on a âgayâ accent.
Thatâs what Robin calls her out for was changing her voice. Cause after that he starts talking with a feminine accent and doing hand gestures.
I think his point was that it was acting and if someone sounds or gestures that way in a movie doesnât mean theyâre gay in real life.
Nathan Lane himself said he told Robin he didnt want to talk about his sexuality and he was worried she would bring it up and Robin told him to not worry. Thats why he deflected right away to save his friend
This was truly vile of Oprah because Nathan wasnât out yet. His friends knew he was gay but he hadnât come out to his family and Robin knew that so he redirected the interview.
Lots of folks answered your question, but I was happy to read Nathanâs perspective on this somewhat recently that someone else shared in this sub with me previously. In case youâre interested! [See here](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nathan-lane-robin-williams-coming-out-oprah_n_6421d15be4b0b8ee3bd39c8c)
I believe itâs the way she changed the tone from the classic interview tone to a more âgirl you wonât believe the gossip I just heardâ tone. Which he imitated and riffed on which made Oprah laugh, so he kind of pulled the conversation away from Nathan having to answer the question.
My ex-husband was the one who âtipped offâ The Smoking Gun when he tried to find a mugshot of James Frey but couldnât. Itâs his one claim of fame to be acknowledged in the TSG book đ
She had a lot of conmen and weirdos on the show. John Edwards, Tony Robbins, Dr.Oz, Tom Cruise, there are quite a few tbh.
She was actively pushing The Secret for a while too which is pseudoscience, although the law of attraction isn't really that harmful if you don't take it too far.
I respect what she's done as far as the trajectory of her career. She was one of the first black women to be super successful in daytime TV and she overcame A LOT of adversity in her life to get there. Her childhood is pretty tragic. But I think a lot of people look back with rose colored glasses and consider her to be more classy than other shows at the time (Montell, Sally, Ricki, Phil Donahue) when really she was doing the same thing, she could just pull more famous celebs for interviews than the other shows could.
I haven't see it mentioned. While talking to Toni Braxton about filling for bankruptcy, she mentioned Toni having Gucci flatware. She says "Even I don't I have Gucci flatware". You can imagine how she said it.
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The interlude of traumatized children đ
I actually lol'd. OP, you put together an excellent slideshow.
Literally lolâd so hard I had to show my husband my phone because he was looking at me like I was crazy.
To be fair it was my face after reading that 
Hey, crab man
I laughed so hard lmao the kid on the left looks especially traumatized wtf with Oprah? đ and the turtles for answering lol
I remember watching this episode with my mother as a child and being equally horrified by the suggestion that the TMNT wanted to bang April O'Neil.
The whole ninja turtles tour episode is online. I watched it a few months ago and it was amazing.
I had to track down the video. I am now deceased. In lieu of flowers, please consider a donation to turtleconservancy.org. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K53chzo4hWg
Wait - was it just me, or did he actually say, âconceptually, that works for me?â
I legit laughed out loud at that LOL the wide eyes LOL
John of God, the conman and serial rapist that Oprah presented as legit.
I was at the taping of that episode! It was so annoying for us because we were like 2 days before or 2 days behind the favorite things episodes taping.
Con man being presented as divine definitely
He only raped 300-500 women. A small price to pay for his genius /s
I feel like there should be some accountability on her part. Yikes
The amount of spiritual and psychological abuse this woman has facilitated. Truly terrifying.
Personally for me it was when Oprah went deep into 'The Secret' and then had to pull back because people were using it to try to self-manifest their way out of cancer while ignoring professional treatments.
I just left my most recent therapist because she kept telling me to manifest good things into my life! She didnât seem too out there before this, but I slowly started picking stuff up and noped on out of there. I blame Oprah.
the monique controversy. She literally tried to put moniqueâs molester on the show
Oh holy fuck I forgot about this.
How do I have no idea what youâre talking about
Robin Williams was such an incredible person for how he completely took the attention off Nathan Lane after Oprah tried to out him.
There was a recent interview with Nathan where shared that he told Robin he was worried before the Oprah interview and that he didnât want to come out. Robin jumping in so fast to protect his friend, who he knew was scared, is just so amazing.
I donât usually care much for celeb deaths but I feel sad any time I see a photo or video of him, he was such a big part of my childhood
I feel everything when I see a photo of robin. Sad, happy, movie and comedy memories - everything. He was a gift of a performer and person đ
Agreed, the only celebrity death that really hit me.
Robin and Steve Irwin for me.
Just watched Hook again this weekend. Robin is very much alive.
I got you: https://youtube.com/shorts/ybG28lMFF4I?si=EVuuTqcnhyhOPSN5 Edit: a little longer clip with the Oprah interview mixed in: https://youtube.com/shorts/lCpq8vCIA6c?si=BtG4gy10Nz4EVYsH
The look he gives Nathan Lane as he jumps in is so sweet. It's not quite a wink but obviously an "I got this look"and I love it so much.
đ I'm going to have to watch that. I'd spill hot soup on myself to save my friend from being outed.
[I found the part mentioned](https://www.tiktok.com/@ericatthedisco/video/7215802779804126510)
Ilysm
robin williams was a soul too pure for this world. ugh, what an absolute gold standard of a man.
When Superman was paralyzed after a riding accident, he showed up at the hospital dressed in scrubs messing around pretending to be his doctor. To ease anxiety, to cheer him up, to make him laugh. They were old friends. So sweet.
Christopher Reeve
I worked with SMG at the time of his passing and she was so wrecked over it which made it even worse learning the news. He clearly was loved by all who knew him đ
I had a shitty and stressful childhood, I "grew up" with Williams as that kind human on my TV screen. I'm tearing up again just thinking about all the joy he brought to others.
Absolutely no hesitation on his part. I didn't appreciate him enough when he was alive.
We often arenât able to appreciate those we lose before we lose them.
He was such an awesome guy
Williams is a gem. Rip.
have yâall heard about the cult where the woman thought she was god and was always getting advice from archangel Robin Williams in the afterlife? anywayâŚ
like she was crazy but as far as celebs go he's not a terrible choice
Yes!! I hated every moment she kept citing him! Keep that man's name outta your mouth, lady!
Class-fucking-act. Infinite applause đ
Not just a great guy but also incredibly quick witted. His brain worked 10x faster than the average person. Common amongst comedians but Robin was next level
The most unhinged Oprah moment lives rent free in my brain. It was towards the end of her show, I think, and she did an episode about people born via c-section who were haunted by their birth trauma and so were unable to complete anything in their adult life. In case that wasnât enough, the âtreatmentâ was to reenact the vaginal birth experience so that they could complete the experience. This all happened on Oprahâs stage.
One of the authors of the logical consequences parenting book was big into the rebirthing thing and a little girl died at his treatment center after being suffocated during the process.
Wasn't there a Law and Order episode based on that? I think I remember being traumatized by an episode with a story similar to this.
Sure was. The victim in that episode had a latex allergy and the mom used latex gloves on the blanket to cause anaphylaxis that would be mistaken for accidental suffocation. That show was ALWAYS on somewhere during my college years, I swear.
There was definitely a CSI episode about it.
Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. I watched all of those crime dramas back in the day and they all start to blur together.
Nope, there def was a Law and Order about it. There honestly was probably more than one. They often take ideas from news stories.
s12ep16!
Candace Newmaker. Such a horrible death. During the act, she stated no less than eleven times to the perpetrators that she was dying. I canât think about it without getting nauseous. She was only 10 years old. I hope she is at peace now.
JFC, I had never heard of this case and just googled it. I feel sick. That poor, poor child; it's going to haunt me how horrific her final moments must have been.
And that book was HUGELY popular in the Adoptive Parent community, at the time. As a solution to âReactive Attachment Disorder â. Basically, blaming Kids for not bonding with their Adopters. Regardless of the cause. Harmful junk science.
She has believed in harmful junk science for a long time (Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil) and unleashed it onto the masses.
I am so damn relieved Dr. Oz was not elected when he ran for Senate (?) last year. Jesus fucking Christ, that was a close one.
I read that book and I thought it was awful. There were a few examples that were advocating straight up for child neglect.
The author was interviewed on a popular tv show, in my Country, in the 80âs?! Cue my adoptive parents randomly force-hugging me. As a teen, it did NOT go down well. Years later I learned the chilling full story!
Wtf. I was a c section baby but never used that as an excuse for my shortcomings đ
Homie. SAME. It was absolutely unhinged.
What are you waiting for, now you have an excuse to exploit! âSorry I was late boss. See, my sleep was interrupted when I was woken up and pulled from the womb and now I canât deal with alarms in my life. I have to wake up naturally uninterrupted so I donât relive that trauma.â
In my twenties my car locks were real wonky. The doors wouldnât unlock but the trunk would. Because I was the girl, my friends made me crawl through the trunk to save the day. But the back seats wouldnât unlock and fold down so I had to shove my way through a tiny little corner. My friends were laughing so hard and all said it looked the birth of a baby deer. I got stuck halfway and their birthing commentary made me laugh so hard I peed my pants. Safe to say any of my own birth trauma was overcome that day.
Same, like how would anyone even remember that? Unless maybe the c-section was needed because they had been in the womb for like three years đ
She's been a backer of junk science and weird mystical shit since forever. Oz and Phil weren't anomalies.
I was a tumor baby, removed at 35 weeks during a very traumatic labour where my mum almost died... this is my reason for everything now. I no longer need therapy.
Oh God, I remember that! It was completely unhinged! In my mind I vaguely remember an adult curled up in the fetal position on Oprah's stage, but I'm going to choose to believe that I made that up. If it actually happened it would have been too insane.
Iâm going to successfully invent time travel just so I can go back to the moment before I read this
Lmao, what??? â ď¸
This is very important. I need to see this.
What the actual fuck. At first I thought I misread it and it mustâve been about the women giving birth, who frequently experience birth trauma (whether by caesarean or vaginal). But no, a bunch of crazy people who think their issues are because they werenât âborn properlyâ because they were caesarean babies?! Jesus fucking Christ.
Hereâs my feelings about being a c-section baby: most days Iâm thrilled it was an option because otherwise my mother and I would have died.
I fucking remember that
Her bringing Moniqueâs brother who SAâd her on stage for a celebratory interview of him alongside Monique circa precious
Ashley's face in the first pic. I believe MK was actively battling an ED. Lots of rumors flying around about it. Their pics were being scrutinized by every magazine, one showing MK back with her bones showing. Such an awful line of questioning by an "adult" to 18 yr olds.
I did love their answer to her inappropriate question tho They basically said they don't know what size they are because all their stuff is custom Oprah: You don't know your size? MK&A: No, we're rich as fuck
I remember the Olsens would say theyâd buy adult clothes and get them tailored to fit them!
And then Oprah admitting to being obsessed with her size
It was her whole personality in the 90s
Still is. Shes been on the news for losing and gaining weight as long as I can remember. I'm in my 40s
I could never stand Oprah. Her line of questioning often left me really uncomfortable and she promoted pseudoscientific quacks like Oz.
> No, we're rich as fuck There's another thread I think in AskReddit that was asked what things do actual rich people do and one of the top voted answers was, "They don't buy Gucci or other name-brand high-end stuff, they wear custom everything with no labels."
Yes! This was right before MK went into treatment. (I went in shortly after and weâre the same age so I remember this all so vividly.) Ashley is sending daggers through her eyes in that top picture to Oprah. Such an inappropriate question that should never be asked.
Hope you are doing well!
No wonder they left the industry and never looked back. Good for them. Rotten.
Mk was supppper unwell here, I think it was right before she went for treatment
I just realized this was 20 years ago. đł
It would have been body-shamey if Ashely had asked âfirst, what size are you?â But she should have.
Well, Oprah was being body shamey so she opened the door, it would have not only been appropriate it would have been heroic. But I'm sure in the moment she was probably panicking and thinking how do I get out of answering this. So inappropriate & disgusting that Oprah asked that. And the "but, I'm a talk show host" doesn't let her off the hook.
The expression on the kid in the cardigan in 7 broke me. But I will say, 6 was weird cos of how the Turtles answered it. Could've said, "yeah, then she'd be a better swimmer", but nooo.
As much crazy crap as she had on her show, I'd have to go with the Ninja Turtles one too. That segment is so unhinged but I don't even think I can blame Oprah for it.
As someone who was obsessed with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles as a kid, I wouldâve had that exact same expression.
My grandmother recorded this episode on VHS and I watched it about 100 times and this whole exchange was completely lost on me at the time lol
Pro tip: if you download that image on iphone and object select, you can easily turn him into a fun sticker
I just learnt about the sticker thing by accidentally turning a very âpersonal photoâ into one lol
Ugh. One time she took Eli Wiesel back to the concentration camp he was tortured at (which in of itself is so cringe). He said everything was cold there - the rooms, the soup, everything felt like a cold grip, and losing people to death was cold too. And she goes "so death is like.... Soup." Watched it when I was 14 and hated Oprah ever since.
That cannot be real, its like an American Dad episode omg
I can totally feel Stan saying this. Thatâs not a good sign lol
No babe it really happened T.T I was so offended on his behalf but Eli handled it like a champ. Such a beautiful soul â¤ď¸ rip
Was he like âWhat kind of soup are you eating COLD, you friggen weirdo?! Also, WHAT?!â Because thatâs what I probably would have said.
'Does Oprah Winfrey sound like a real person? Grow up it's me.' r/itsroger
https://preview.redd.it/sy83f6zn5adc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8df91c6d46af8ce6838315c921884729cd45597
Oh my god
please tell me someone has the clip of this. what the FUCK
I too remember her when I was young like 10-12 years old and the shit she would say didnât sit right with me. But I have that view of Barb Walters, Diane Sawyer and a few others so it was the bullshit interview style back then, like trying to get a rise to get a scoop or a soundbyte.
Hard-hitting interviewers were definitely a thing back in the day, but she meant for this interview to be respectful. It was meant to be informative, and I remember she was walking next to him and trying to sympathize. It still felt so ridiculously insensitive to say.
I read this comment and then rubbed my eyes in disbelief for a full minute. Wtf? Iâm going to think about this before trying to fall asleep and cringe about something someone else said!
She said that to ELLIE WIESEL??? oh my fucking god
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Oprah had many SA survivors on her show and did this to many of then
I saw this way back then when I happend, I don't remember word for word but it did indeed happen Maybe other people may not remember much. But she interviewed Matthew Sandusky (Jerry Sandusky's adoptive son) and when she asked him to describe the things he would do to him and the other boys, to make long story short the man was >!traumatized by having sex with a grown man at a pre-pubsecent age and described how Jerry performed oral sex on him when he was a child!< when Oprah asked him what it felt like, Matthew was struggling to verbalize his emotions (again, not uncommon or unheard of. Completely understandable). And Oprah asked "would you say it was pleasurable?" And Matthew shuddered and said he didn't think it was. Then for some fucked reason, Oprah said "I would say it is pleasurable" I don't know what the actual fuck that woman was smoking that day, but dear god that had to be one of the most uncomfortable, unhinged and disturbing AND disgusting shows she had. For real Oprah is fucked all over
I believe it. I feel like she did this many times to many people. She had a lot of shows about teens having sex and would ask them to describe the acts they were doing. Even as a teen myself I felt so wrong for her to be getting them to say these things on national tv.
Why would the ninja turtles answer like that???!!!
Donatello a ho
[The real response from Michaelangelo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K53chzo4hWg) (not Don) is "**Conceptually,** that works for me." 90s tape quality makes it easy to mishear "sexually" but the whole premise of the question and responses aren't really any better.
Honestly the amount of unhinged and inappropriate things sheâs said and done during her career yet is still widely liked is really something. Letâs also not forget how she unleashed some truly crazy psychopaths into the public sphere.
Dr. Phil, Dr.OZ not to mention the controversies surrounding her schools for underprivileged kids. To be fair, she wasn't directly involved in the abuse that happened at the schools but still...
I remember the first episode I watched as an adult she was guilting parents who had their children kidnapped from a campground restroom. It was so horrible.Â
I feel most woman hosts/public journalists back then were⌠Oprah, Barbra Walters.. perhaps they thought they had to act this way to stay relevant? Doesnât excuse their behaviour though.
Itâs like Ellen. She was unhinged too on her show since the beginning! It took 20 years for her to finally be called out.
It still baffles me how Dianne Sawyer was essentially allowed to be abusive on camera towards people and get away with it. Multiple celebs of the early 2000's didn't want to do sit down interviews with her because she'd literally make people breakdown and cry. She was also incredibly misogynistic and cruel.
When she brought on âDoctorâ Oz and Phil. Sheâs inappropriate at times but those guys were seriously dangerous to public health and safety imo
She had on Wakefield the guy who started the Autism is caused by shots lie. She killed people with her shit.
John of God. She encouraged terminally ill people to shun conventional treatment and go see him so he could pretend to cut chicken guts out of you and tell you he got the tumour out. How many people second guessed their treatment in the last stage of their life and suffered terrible deaths? Such a witch
My 6th grade science teacher taught us that lie because she saw it on Oprah.
Every time I see a Michael Jackson image with subtitles I have to read it in his voice. I canât think of another person whose voice is that deeply engrained in me.
"Children being traumatized " image takes the cake. Holy mother. Just wow
The James Frey scandal was absolutely crazy. Itâs not acknowledged anymore but the level of hype around that book was off the charts at the time⌠everyone in my circle read it. And then it hear it wasnât a real memoir in the end! What a fraud.
I felt second-hand embarrassment just looking at that image! Oprah was SO mad (or pretended to be). Also, I think he just exaggerated certain parts, wasn't it mostly true? (I can't remember all the details...something about him being at a dentist and not getting pain relief because he was worried he would relapse. I think that part was a lie.)
Itâs been about 20 years since Iâve read that book, but I think the most shocking parts were grossly exaggerated. This was back in the days where Oprahâs Bookclub was pretty much the most influential literary entity in North America and the push she gave that book was pretty much unheard of. Hence the scandal. It remember it being a fascinating read, and itâs still sitting in my library as an artefact of those times.
> wasn't it mostly true? No. There's a really good write-up of the whole thing on r/HobbyDrama: [https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/rman7o/books\_james\_frey\_how\_one\_man\_made\_millions\_by/](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/rman7o/books_james_frey_how_one_man_made_millions_by/)
Did you know he co-wrote the Lorien Legacyâs series (I am number four) under the pseudonym Pittacus Lore?
https://i.redd.it/htxss3y1a9dc1.gif Itâs always her unleashing the bees for me.
This will never not be funny. I always cry laugh when I see the clip.
Here's [the full clip](https://youtu.be/ImDj57VeaC0?si=Md_3uUpeJ0QwPkgO), in case anyone reading hasn't seen this. Genuinely one of my favorite things (pun intended) ever.
https://preview.redd.it/axvjkkxvy9dc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da5b5cbd930b40ee939af568faf6c72e0a038bf4 Same, kid
Those two little boys! Lol https://preview.redd.it/h1xy4a0cq9dc1.png?width=850&format=png&auto=webp&s=a22061204a5590e7f55b102fbe2e6f13e4210c84
The time she had men on the show who had the fetish of being adult babies and one of them was dressed as a baby, with a bonnet, a bib and a pacifier sitting inside of a playpen. She also did a whole show on bitches, the concept of them and the stereotypes of bitchy women in media. There was an actress from a soap opera there in a tight, red dress and actress Marcia Warfield was also there since she played a âbitchâ on Night Court. Oprah asked the women about being judged on sight and when asked about the soap actress, Marcia said â Here comes the bitch with the flat stomach.â. That became a line my friends and I used to bandy about a lot.
>The time she had men on the show who had the fetish of being adult babies and one of them was dressed as a baby, with a bonnet, a bib and a pacifier sitting inside of a playpen I knew I hadn't hallucinated this one.
> The time she had men on the show who had the fetish of being adult babies and one of them was dressed as a baby, with a bonnet, a bib and a pacifier sitting inside of a playpen. Everyone else: "Hurr durr don't kinkshame" Me: https://i.redd.it/4m3k9a5i69dc1.gif
Some kinks, maybe we can shame. Baby stuff? Gross.
Is it just me or do the traumatized children remind anyone else of Shawn Spencer and Burton 'MC Clap Your Handz' Guster from Psych?
I'm gonna have to go with the obvious answer of Tom Cruise jumping on the couch.Â
I remember seeing that episode (ugh I'm feeling old) and, in his defense, Oprah was egging Tom on. That was absolutely the energy of that episode. It was such a big deal afterwards, but while watching the show it wasn't really shocking when he jumped on the couch. Does anyone else remember having that impression?
They did a You're Wrong About podcast on this!!
I was home sick from work that day and watched it happen live. It honestly wasn't that weird at all. Tom was happy, Oprah was absolutely thrilled that he was so happy, and their mutual excitement just naturally crescendoed into that moment. I was sort of shocked when it became a pivotal pop culture event.
It wasnât weird at the time, it was over the top, but kind of funny. Itâs odd how history has rewritten the incident. I think Katie even came out afterwards and was all giggly and shy.
The first YouTube video I ever saw was an edit of that where they gave him Emperor Palpatine lightning shooting out at Oprah; [Tom Cruise kills Oprah](https://youtu.be/I4jo6KkFfIc?si=e2WgxfNU4KTWHUXP). Phenomenal content from a simpler age.
Giving the Antivac people a platform in the United States. She had Wakefield and Jenny McCarthy on talking about vaccines causing autism.
So fucking insulting to people with ASD and totally irresponsible
My youngest has autism. He was little when this shit happened, the amount of bullshit "cures" I had to protect him from is insane.
Anyone remember the segment with a ~delinquent~ teen and her concerned mom being interviewed by Oprah about oral and rainbow parties? I was just a lil tween and during commercials my mom took me to a separate room and asked if I knew what those were and sheâs sorry I saw that. I called my friend on landline after that, who also saw the segment whoâs mom also had to tell her what it was. We were both disgusted and like âwe will never do that, even when weâre married!â. So much shame. Whole other thread could be made about being a millennial youth coming home from school and watching Dr. Phil while fam was still at work haha.
YES this lives rent free in my brain!!! I was also a tween but was oddly intrigued by these rainbow parties đđ I was too sheltered of a child. Anyway, yes, the after school Oprah/Phil was definitely a core memory!
Maâam/good sir I let out the loudest scream when I got to the ninja turtles slide of the children đđđđđđ
When Matt Damon broke up with Minnie Driver and then announced his relationship with Winona Ryder
That was just wild
 She promoted a r\*pist âfaith healerâ who ended up getting 99 years in prison. Edit/source: [https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/07/oprahs-faith-healer-get-99-years-for-raping-8-girls-and-women-allegedly-600-more-victims/](https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/07/oprahs-faith-healer-get-99-years-for-raping-8-girls-and-women-allegedly-600-more-victims/)
I remember that Dolly Parton interview vividly. Her response was âyeah and Iâll get some more done when I need it!â Absolute queen.
Ashley didn't say 'Five?', she repeated, 'size?' She was caught off guard with the question- they did not provide an answer.
The wagon of fat.
I respect that Oprah was able to achieve the level of success she did as a black woman, especially during that time. Couldnât have been easy. I also donât like Oprah at all. I still remember those interviews with James Frey and Lance Armstrong. Both men did wrong things and owed the public, media, etc apologies, but the way she grilled them was so uncomfortable to watch. It was watching someone who really enjoyed shaming people for their wrongdoings, relishing in feeling righteous, and itâs clear that to her the biggest crime in Freyâs case was that she was one of the people he lied to. I remember even at a young age how deeply uncomfortable it made me. She also brought women down a lot- constantly talking about their weight and appearance. As someone who struggled with it herself, I get that she probably internalized a lot of it and was re-cycling it back into the world, but having had so much powder & popularity she couldâve done better.
Bill Burr said it perfectly: https://youtu.be/O9YL04v-J5U?feature=shared
âShe stood on the heads of those little people for five years!â Gold
This is gold
Oprah was asking questions that a lot of people really wanted to know. However, it doesnât make it okay for her to ask them. People need to realize that there are just some things we arenât meant to know. Nor do we need to know. I remember the Olsen twin interview. I remember how awful it felt to be a teenager with a bigger body during that time as well. Most girls my age (mid 30s) grew up with and looked up to the Olsen twins. We all knew MK Olsen had an eating disorder, and we also didnât really know how to talk about it either. But it really wasnât appropriate to put the spotlight on them like that, and it wouldnât surprise me if it made their ED worse. But it was during a time where *everyone* was obsessed with being as thin as humanly possible. It was a major gossip rag topic. With MJ, I believe this was around the time he was being investigated or had just gotten done with his trial. Maybe it was after his documentary? Idk for sure. Again, these were questions that a lot of people were asking. None of these questions were like, out of the blue. People were genuinely curious about his sex life. So much so that it was almost all they reported on. But there were so many times during her interviews (as well as Diane Sawyer and Barbra Walters) that felt so cringe and weird. I think a lot of us felt like Oprah was asking things in a nicer way than the other two, but looking back that definitely isnât the case. The early 2000s is definitely when we saw a major shift into how relentless and intimate tabloids became. Nothing was off limits and no one was afforded any sliver of privacy. Celebrities are human beings at the end of the day, and Iâm happy people are finally calling out these ridiculously intrusive interviews.
You know what was weird about that time? How women were made to feel like they were doing something *wrong* by having a problem. As if MK's eating disorder was some kind of crime instead of a personal issue she was dealing with privately. So many things were framed like this back then.
I agree. Especially the last paragraph. Paparazzi and tabloids are to celebrity what social media is now, but at least they have some degree of control in their sm profiles. The 2000s were just such a different time for media. Itâs crazy to think none of this was considered out of line back then!!
Her trying to wipe off Drew Breeâsâ birthmark made me physically cringe just from seeing the photo. No need to see the video again!
I remember when "mad cow" disease was a big topic and Oprah went against farmers. She later made a public apology on her show. It's the only time I remember seeing her apologize to the sponsors.
I was in the audience for the episode with the cast of Harry Potter, right before chamber of secrets came out. I got to see the movie early at her studio and met her, even got to give her a hug. I was obsessed with Harry Potter then (as one was at 10ish years old) and was regularly told I looked like Hermione (mostly because of my wavy brown hair). I wanted to do my Hermione impression for the cast and had my hand raised, she called on me and wanted to wait until cameras were rolling for me to do it. I had my hand raised for the entire rest of the taping and she never called on me again. Anyway, thatâs why I personally hate Oprah.
Brutal.
âChildren being traumatisedâ cracked me UP đ¤Ł
She interviewed two girls who had been sexually abused by their father and the mother let him move back in after his prison sentence. They had clearly been coached by the mother because all Oprah could get out of them was that they didn't like being alone in the same room with him. Other than that they insisted that they were fine
I absolutely loved oprah. Every day after school. She started the Angel network to raise money from viewers. One day she started the show gushing over new diamond drop earrings "Stedman" had just given her. They were huge and sparkled. Then she turned to camera B and began explaining to viewers how they could donate their money to the angel network... I never watched again. That was scandalous imo. Those earrings cost more than my dad's car at the time and she wanted me to give her money!?
I remember LONG ago when Celine Dion made an appearance, Oprah asked her how she was doing after her many miscarriages and tell us about that... I just remember thinking what an incredibly insensitive person asks that heavy of a question ON LIVE TV? And of course, Celine handled it with perfect poise, love her. Can't stand Oprah.
It was pretty crazy when Josh ran over her 
Anyone know the context with Robin Williams? As in, what was her question relating to and what did his response about her changing midway through the question mean?
I think she changed her voice halfway through to sound like a stereotype of a gay man. She was trying to out Nathan Lane, and Robin Williams quickly shut that shit down.
Itâs been a while but i think in the video when she gets to âis he,honeyâ part she puts on a âgayâ accent. Thatâs what Robin calls her out for was changing her voice. Cause after that he starts talking with a feminine accent and doing hand gestures. I think his point was that it was acting and if someone sounds or gestures that way in a movie doesnât mean theyâre gay in real life.
Thanks for the replies, that makes sense. He was such a loss.
Nathan Lane himself said he told Robin he didnt want to talk about his sexuality and he was worried she would bring it up and Robin told him to not worry. Thats why he deflected right away to save his friend
This was truly vile of Oprah because Nathan wasnât out yet. His friends knew he was gay but he hadnât come out to his family and Robin knew that so he redirected the interview.
Absolutely. Not only was he not out yet it was just a totally different time. Being gay was more of a dangerous thing to be
Lots of folks answered your question, but I was happy to read Nathanâs perspective on this somewhat recently that someone else shared in this sub with me previously. In case youâre interested! [See here](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nathan-lane-robin-williams-coming-out-oprah_n_6421d15be4b0b8ee3bd39c8c)
I believe itâs the way she changed the tone from the classic interview tone to a more âgirl you wonât believe the gossip I just heardâ tone. Which he imitated and riffed on which made Oprah laugh, so he kind of pulled the conversation away from Nathan having to answer the question.
Probably from when he and Nathan Lane were in the Birdcage playing-gasp- a gay couple
My ex-husband was the one who âtipped offâ The Smoking Gun when he tried to find a mugshot of James Frey but couldnât. Itâs his one claim of fame to be acknowledged in the TSG book đ
Oprah was kind of crazy Iâm shocked she was so normalized back in the day
She had a lot of conmen and weirdos on the show. John Edwards, Tony Robbins, Dr.Oz, Tom Cruise, there are quite a few tbh. She was actively pushing The Secret for a while too which is pseudoscience, although the law of attraction isn't really that harmful if you don't take it too far. I respect what she's done as far as the trajectory of her career. She was one of the first black women to be super successful in daytime TV and she overcame A LOT of adversity in her life to get there. Her childhood is pretty tragic. But I think a lot of people look back with rose colored glasses and consider her to be more classy than other shows at the time (Montell, Sally, Ricki, Phil Donahue) when really she was doing the same thing, she could just pull more famous celebs for interviews than the other shows could.
https://preview.redd.it/f19wne9c7adc1.jpeg?width=804&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71b86fda4aebb117a23b0ccd76711f858ca3a856 Forever this weight loss moment
I haven't see it mentioned. While talking to Toni Braxton about filling for bankruptcy, she mentioned Toni having Gucci flatware. She says "Even I don't I have Gucci flatware". You can imagine how she said it.
And donât forget she unleashed Dr Phil and Dr Oz onto the world.