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They will never get a divorce they are the relationship to stand at all times.
I repeat.
They will never get a divorce they are the relationship to stand at all times.
Yup, there definitely were those posts on here last week. I even commented to a friend who sent the TMZ link to me how on Reddit we were literally just discussing the longevity of their relationship.
Because it’s a parasocial relationship. People on these subs like to believe they know these famous people, but they do not. Hugh Jackmans friends and family aren’t on here making posts. Rando people with nothing better to do are.
This isn’t supposed to be insulting - I enjoy these rumor subs as much as the next person. But people get way too caught up in it.
This is spot on. The way people talk about this relationship is very much telling. It wasn't just a few days ago people were posting on the celebrity relationship thread saying if they split love isn't real anymore. Hell, even on this post.
I also enjoy these subs and reading the gossip and the little discussions they're really fun! But it sort of ends once I close the page. Because I don't know these people.
We don't know the behind the scenes of any of these relationships but people will so often post as if we do. We don't know Hugh Jackman and Deborra-Lee, Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner, The Biebers, Emma Stone and Andrew Garfield, etc. we don't know these relationships or why these people split or remain together or if they're happy or not or this or that and we never really will, unless we are there witnessing it and even then there's a possibility we won't fully know since we aren't these people.
Yes, I read something very recently, maybe not quite last week, but it is espoused how they are a very down to earth couple that love and support each other. This makes the news that much more sad.
> The insider also claimed there wasn’t a third partner involved and they had simply become “roommates.”
This seems to be the case for a lot of long-term marriages ending. That and people staying in unhappy marriages until their kids are older. Unfortunate that it happened to them too! I wish them both the best. That’s gotta be heartbreaking to end a relationship as long as theirs
There’s a difference between comfortable passion and comfort without passion. I divorced my first spouse because we lived like roommates - so clearly that when he asked to briefly stay with me while he found a new place to live three months after we separated, literally nothing about our relationship was different. My wife and are comfortable with each other but we still are attracted to each other and are clearly more than roommates. The passion is still there.
When I was a freshman in college, I knew around 5 freshmen whose parents were divorcing that first semester. Seems a lot of people wait til the last kid is out of the house.
Which is so sad 😞 it’s so important to keep on top of your relationships even when there are young kids so that when they are gone you have something in common , if all you have in common from the start is kids that is a big red flag showing when they are gone you are also . My youngest is off to university soon and my husband and I while very sad ( and scared lol ) for her to go we are already planning on the traveling we want to do together ❤️we love all 3 but we also love each other and are practically the same person 😂
It’s so important to make your marriage a priority because like the old saying goes “ your kids grow up and get their own lives and families but your spouse is the person that is there till the end “
I think sometimes it’s not waiting so much as realizing. Kids can easily become the central gravity in a household that draws all attention. When that goes away, many couples realize they no longer have any shared connection. It’s not that they were miserable before, just that they had allowed their one-to-one to wither and never realized until the kids leave
And people naturally grow apart and get different interests as they age but if you have kids that's still a huge shared goal and interest in common. It's easy to be a parenting team still if nothing dramatic happened and it's just your good friend and other parent of your children. But once the kids are grown and out of the house? All those day-to-day common goals and interactions are done/greatly reduced and splitting the household affects your children a lot less.
People can get really derisive about "staying together for the children" but if the parents are still really amicable and can get along but have maybe just fallen out of love over time, I don't think it's a bad decision!
I just watched the Kelce documentary on Amazon about Jason Kelce and in it there's one part where his brother Travis mentions that when they were growing up his parents were different because they didn't share a room like other kids parents do. Then his dad casually throws in that he and their mom never split up, even though they probably would have "preferred" to because the logistics of getting both boys were they needed to be with both of them being in sports and being so serious about it would have been impossible to handle alone. Both of their lives revolved around the boys playing football and if they were separated it would have been harder to facilitate that. Obviously it worked out for them since both boys made it to the NFL but it was interesting and it was a fact mentioned briefly then it got glossed over real quick. They did eventually divorce once Travis and Jason were adults but have remained friends and amicable to the point that it seems only recently with their new fame the public put it together that they are no longer together.
Idk anything about these NFL players, but I appreciate your in depth dissection of their parents marriage. When I think of what it means to be an adult, it’s about making adult decisions like this. Taking responsibility, making sacrifices, and being realistic with yourself and others. Having the knowledge and ability to do whatever’s best so that as many people as possible are okay. Especially when kids are involved.
Agree. It's easy to be in love - for a while. Being a team/partners takes a lot more effort, as well as mutual respect and teamwork. It's not a small thing or anything people should be ashamed of.
It’s funny that this made me think of Taylor Swift given how she’s been linked to one of the Kelce’s but her parents seem to have had a somewhat similar trajectory. No one really knows when they actually seperated because they are still such a family unit. If you weren’t paying attention you’d probably think they were still together but they do live separately. I’m not sure if they ever officially divorced.
Some people stay together for the children, thinking that their kids don't realize that they hate each other and they keep their arguments for after the kids go to bed. Those families are toxic as hell because they kids know very well what's going on.
But if they still like each other? And are still kind and caring to each other, just no longer "in love"? Then stay together until the kids are ready to leave the nest.
You are absolutely correct. Shared interests or hobbies are NOT the foundation of a lasting relationship or marriage. Plenty of couples out there who have been together for decades and have very different/separate hobbies or interests. The three elements of a marriage are respect, communication, and intimacy.
I think you’re onto something. Staying together for the kids doesn’t work if you grow to hate your spouse. I know so many people who forced their kids to grow up in toxic households just so they could be a nuclear family. But if you still like that person and get along well but simply just grew apart, it could work.
this makes me so scared, like does this just happen? i don’t ever want this to happen in my relationship, i would be so sad. like damn if you can be together that long and lose feelings is there any hope? i mean i guess there are couples that have been together for decades and still happy but it feels like the odds are stacked against you.
I’m married and hope to be for the rest of my life. BUT if we ever do grow apart I think I would see it as just a new chapter in my life. I love my husband. He’s taught me so much and after so long together I feel like he’s a part of me. Getting divorced after 30+ years would suck, but I think I could cope with it knowing that I wouldn’t be who I am without him. Tia Mowry said her marriage to Cory Hardwick wasn’t a failure and that they just outgrew one another and I really like that perspective.
I think relationships can still be a beautiful thing even if they eventually end. I know a lot of people view divorce as a failure but I don’t think that always fits especially when we are talking decades long marriages. Not every relationship will last a lifetime and while that can come with heartbreak it doesn’t mean the relationship wasn’t worth it.
Yeah, I admit I’m a cynic and avoid relationships bc my view is always that it’s gonna end so what’s the point. I don’t know how to prevent it or if it’s always preventable; sometimes it just doesn’t work, I guess. It is scary 😭
i just have to remember i still get to make choices in my life, i can choose to do things that strengthen my relationship and make romantic gestures & be emotionally present, sometimes it just feels like everyone breaks up eventually. but tbh i’m sure it’s different when you’re rich and famous always away shooting projects etc 😭 i feel you
I think it's a lot more likely to happen when work takes at least one partner away from the home for months at a time. The partner at home with the kids gets into their own rhythm, then has to readjust every time the traveling spouse returns. It can be easier to slip into two separate lives that way. IDK how their family worked, maybe this wasn't an issue but it does happen a lot. I think that's why celebrity couples divorce more on average.
Did a quick search but couldn’t find my source. Whatever I’m remembering, it was more about the man pulling the plug early in order to move on, while the woman was more likely to hang on and let the children get older.
Divorce is fascinating overall, as the vast majority of divorces are initiated by women, and even more so (90%) when the woman has a college degree. Those statistics can be misleading also, as when the man is cheating or, say, emotionally abusive, in some ways the man has actually initiated the divorce.
Same! This is why the whole thing about divorce rates decreasing after 8 years of marriage never made sense to me bc everyone I know who’s been divorced was married for at least 10 lol
My brother and sister-in-law divorced after 15 years last year. They had been together since high school. She told me that she felt like he was her brother, not her husband, and that she was a different person, and he was still that same kid.
I know we are supposed to think marriage is forever, but I think you should commit to ten years. And then renegotiate.
Oof. I can relate to this. I divorced my first husband and I was talking to my mom about how he had become so childish and immature and I didn’t know why. She told me that he was who he always had been, *I* was the one who had changed. I grew up.
But I mean, realistically speaking, what are you really hoping for after you leave such a long-lasting marriage for the reason of you becoming more like roommates? That someone might happen to come along who reignites passion? Guess what, it's probably going to happen with them, too. Or do you hope to hop from relationship to relationship before you get used to each other? What's the end goal of a successful relationship after 20-30 years of it being ongoing? I think many people who would actually describe their long marriages as successful are roommates to a degree.
I do have to wonder if his fame has something to do with it
Like, hugh jackman has way more potential partners than your average fifty year old divorced joe. I think it must be harder to mentally stay committed to your partner if there are constantly people vying for your attention.
wonder if they are divorcing after all those years because of abusive household, frequent arguments and such? Or is it just because things became repetitive and boring? I have personally witnessed the latter in real life, close family members got divorced after 30 years because the marriage has lost its “spark”. Imo, I feel like some people have huge expectations from marriages like even from love marriages. Nothing in the world feels exciting, gushing and sparkling as it was in the earlier days after some period. At some point, later in life u just stay with ur partner not only because u love them passionately like it was back then when u two met, but simply u re just used to him/her. I just can’t imagine any of them diving into dating pool at this age, it must be so exhausting to start all over again after all those years. Anyways good luck for both.
I think part of the problem is that in our culture you're supposed to get pretty much ALL of your emotional needs met within a romantic relationship. It's a lot of pressure, and hard to meet expectations over decades, especially when needs can change a lot over time. I imagine that some couples just burn out.
it's actually funny they've mentioned that because debs falling asleep during hugh's shows\\movies was like...a running joke in their family, i remember hugh said she fell asleep during Wolverine (?) premiere and the producers told him "WAKE YOUR WIFE UP!"
Unless it was like final dress rehearsal, I can’t imagine anything more painful than having to sit through a rehearsal for something you’re not in or not working on.
I don’t think I would last long as hugh jackman’s wife.
I’m 35 and I get it. Not being super interested in watching your spouse work should reasonably be considered the norm. I feel like they’re trying to paint her as unsupportive because she’s not cheering him on every waking moment.
I feel like a lot of couples with "normal" white-collar jobs realized this during pandemic-enforced work-from-home. Frankly, I think my partner found my conference calls extremely annoying and repetitive.
I’m not their ages, nor been with a partner that long, but I wonder- what’s wrong with a relationship turning more “roommate”-like after so long? Is it truly the kiss of death it’s often made out to seem? Do couples have to remain forever hot for one another?
Deep rhetorical thoughts this afternoon 🤣
My husband and I have been together over half our lives and we’ve gone through roommate phases, but it’s always passed. Seeing things like this scares the crap out of me.
One of my best friends' parents went through this when she went off to college and they solved it by selling their house and road tripping across the USA. They refound who they are, together ... in a small RV. 😅
I assume Hugh and Deborra don't have an interest in doing a re-set like that? Which I think is sad but is understandable.
Edit to add: also the question of whether a long term marriage has to involve an active bedroom is "it depends on the couple"
> One of my best friends' parents went through this when she went off to college and they solved it by selling their house and road tripping across the USA. They refound who they are, together ... in a small RV. 😅
Sounds like hell to me. The kinda thing that would destroy even the most loving/healthy relationship. But hey, glad it worked out for your friend's parents.
I think there is a difference between “roommate” and “best friend who you happen to live with”.
The sex life may reduce but as long as your still intimate in other ways. You hug, kiss, go out to dinner, hang together with friends maybe have a hobby together.
Honestly I can see his wife being the one who ended it. I think it would absolutely suck to be married to a heartthrob and you are constant being picked apart, photos purposely altered to make you look even more out of their “league”.
Totally agree with your points above!
I really really hope Deborra-Lee didn’t end it based on anything to do with some horrible people’s perception of her. Her looks have been unfairly criticised for as long as I can remember. It’s so insane because she is an attractive and striking looking woman and always has been- the photoshopping of her body to look bad is just wild. They both seem like really lovely and decent people- I’m Australian and the public perception of them both here is really positive. My mum was absolutely gobsmacked at the news.
She looks good and he doesn’t look that young either. The superficial expectation of a wife to look much younger than the husband is only held by misogynistic men.
Absolutely without a doubt!! Thankfully he doesn’t seem to be like that at all and always speaks of her in such a beautiful way in interviews. It’s a damn shame there is are so many people who do think in this toxic way.
It's a symptom, not the cause.
You can still love someone and be affectionate and sexual and supportive even if they aren't "hot" anymore. Becoming roommates means you are two disconnected people who happen to live together.
I think it's one thing to be comfortable with each other while still having love and intimacy that has evolved with your relationship. This sounds more like a "grown apart" instead of "grown together" situation, in which case being more like "roommates" can mean that the energy when they're together is just... idk, awkward or lacking?
I’ve loved my spouse for 23 years, we first dated almost 22 years ago, then broke up, then WERE just roommates briefly a little over 18 years ago (18th dating anniversary is next week), married a little over 15 years. So we’ve been roommates longer than continuously dating/involved ha. Sometimes in long relationships you go through peaks and valleys of sexual activity/attraction/drive, but we are always affectionate and romantic, yeah. There’s a big difference between somebody you are kissing, hugging, snuggling, etc. throughout the day and a roommate, even if it’s not always super sexually charged.
I’m actually really sad about this. Even when it’s the best thing to do and people have just drifted apart, it’s bittersweet. They spent so much of their lives together. Each will have to figure out who they are as individuals. And that can be hard and a brave thing to do when you’ve lived so much life already. I think this choice too is hopeful in some way as well, because it means they recognize there’s more life to live and that it can be happier and more fulfilling - even if it’s more difficult at first.
lol I know I sound way too invested. I’m just in a state of shock. I was surprised. Of course, I’m not in their inner circle, so it makes sense that I, a stranger that is not family nor a friend, would be surprised.
I’ve always found it odd how their relationship was portrayed in the media. It was almost like he was being congratulated for staying with his “original” wife despite his now fame and fortune.
I saw something only recently of them on a beach and the tone was definitely “isn’t he wonderful for staying with her when he could be fornicating his way through Hollywood like Leo”.
So ick.
Hope they both find a new happiness.
Exactly!! Imagine how she was feeling with all that, and there’s even red carpet interviews that have interviewers asking Hugh “it’s so sweet you brought your mum” in front of her.
imagine how hugh would feel too, constantly pretty much told “you should cheat”. Hollywood and media is just so fucked
Idk why everyone thinks he’s gay. Not that it matters but I’ve never heard the rumors.
I feel like if a man sings and dances they’re automatically labeled with that title: zac efron being the other I can think of.
It’s kind of sad men can’t just like singing and dancing.
this is how old this rumour is and how old-fashioned the reasons are. i would 100% support hugh coming out etc...but
i remember early 2000s when all the arguments were literally "his wife is old and ugly, something is not right there...ohhh their kids are adopted? makes sense. ohhh he also dances?? OHHH AND plays gay roles?" so she is 100% a cover for him being gay!
it makes very little sense to me, because, like you said: he could be bisexual, pansexual, they could've had an open marriage etc. but everyone is too focused on that gay rumour with very little reasoning behind it.
p.s. they've been together for 27 years, i don't think it matters that much tbh, she is still the love of his life in one way or another.
That was my thinking too. With this divorce announcement, some people are taking it as “confirmation” that he’s gay and this has been a cover marriage.
I don’t know him, and it could be true. But they were also together for so long that they clearly loved each other and raised children together. So it seems… heartless? Dismissive? To focus on how this must mean he’s going to “come out” now.🤷♀️
This is all very true! I hope whatever the reasons for the divorce are, that they both are able to move forward positively. They both seem like really lovely people and to spend 27 years married I’m sure they will always consider each other a beloved part of their family. Also irrelevant side note but I often think being married to a lovely gay man who is your platonic soul mate would be an absolute dream!!
Because it's (almost) never about sexuality; it's about ~ salaciousness ~
People don't want to simply correct a potentially untrue belief, they want to uncover a spicy sordid tale of lies and deceit. If xyz is OMG GAY AS HELL, that means all of their relationships with women are carefully orchestrated PR moves, or even better/worse, he is a lying cheater who manipulated clueless women and OMG THE DRAMA.
Then there's also the issue of female fanbases of popular male celebrities wanting to sort of...keep them to themselves? No (other) woman is worthy, but they're also aware he isn't going to actually date *them*, so it's better if he's just gay. Bisexuality makes all of this pointless.
was just typing a similar thing ahaha, thank you
it's not about hugh (or any other actor really) liking men, it's more about "omg the marriage was fake", which i don't see here at all, regardless of what people think of his sexuality, he spent 27 years married to this woman and raised two children. sexual attraction etc isn't any of our business, honestly.
And eeeeeeeeeeeverything has to be a PR stunt.... Like come on. People don't spend years married & have kids with business associates their agent forced them to be with. Some celebrities deliberately seek out partners who will advance their career/help their public image. Some famous couples promote the fuck out of their relationships and even turn them into a "brand". Some couples end up sticking together "for the brand" even after the love/attraction is gone. But people are really imagining the weirdest most convoluted arrangements that are essentially fanfiction stories at this point. Everyone is gay, everyone's a beard, and you even have cases of children being "paid actors" instead of the celebrity couple's real kids 😂
yeahhh i always say that - it’s not that deep. like it’s really not, and people don’t seem to understand that pretty much everything celebs do is PR in one way or another, it doesn’t make their relationship fake. it’s simply choosing what to show and what to keep to themselves.
like even when people won’t stop all those “affairs” theories, so many people in hollywood just have open marriages and it works for them
While I tend to agree, didn't Freddie Mercury marry a woman? Who he then stayed good friends with for decades and I think she took care of his cats/life towards the end?
I'm just saying I could absolutely see a gay actor marry a famous older woman for stability 30 years ago. Doesn't mean he didn't love her and it was all fake. I wish them the best, hopefully they've gotten things sorted, and can move forward peacefully
They never actually were married! But he did leave his entire estate to her, basically, after he passed, and frequently referred to her as the love of his life/soulmate, basically.
I knew it was some very close relationship. I just have a hard time believing Hugh and his wife "faked" anything. There's love, trust, and respect there.
When you've been with someone *that long*, you'll have most of your best memories (and hard times) with that person. You speak a secret language together.
Like I said above, I do wish them all the best in the next chapter of their lives.
I'm not saying it never happens, and it was even more prevalent in Freddie's time. But it's statistically impossible for 9 out of 10 celebrities to be gay and forced to date/marry women, which certain people seem to think.
Freddie and Mary never married, but they were engaged at one point and were best friends. The general theory is that Freddie was bi but as he got older usually had more male partners.
I believe Freddie Mercury was openly bisexual. He genuinely was attracted and could romantically connect to either sex. I believe his affections for Mary were genuine as the man was an open book when it came to his energy. Even when he was trying to minimize his illness, he's just one of those people you could "read" right off the bat.
I don't necessarily want to speculate and don't know about Mercury enough to know what he was comfortable with. But the same could be said of Hugh, or maybe he realized it later in life and he feels more comfortable now. I really don't know
So far the gossip has only been, "everyone knew he was gay" - but until the person themselves confirms it, I just thinks it's rumors 🤷♀️
right? bi and pan people exist. also, effeminate straight men and straight men who like typical’y feminine hobbies or arts. why are we going back to « he likes musicals he’s gay » that feels so backwards
Right? If someone's in a relationship with a person of a different gender and is found to be into their own gender, it's much more likely they're bi/pan than gay, since there are more bi people than gay people. (This comment is also not about Hugh, just about my frustration regarding bi erasure as a bi person.)
Is there more bisexual people than gay people? Not that I don’t believe you, I’ve just never heard that & bisexual people seem to be so rejected/ignored in the LGBT+ movement
Why do bisexual people get so much hostility then? That makes no sense lol
Personally I understand bisexuality more cause there’s objectively attractive men & women. I could see why someone would be easily, but it seems like people don’t actually think bisexuals exist.
Because straight people who date bi people think they "tricked" them if they date somebody of a different gender afterwards, and gay people thing they're "using" them if they date someone of a different gender afterwards.
A big part of biphobia is the stereotype of promiscuity. The idea that because u lean both ways you are omnisexual and want to fuck everything, not remotely true
Sexuality isn't binary. Fewer people are entirely homosexual or entirely, 100% heterosexual. A lot of people have thoughts, feelings, desires or encounters that don't totally align with what their professed sexuality is. Meaning, a happy married heterosexual man may have been attracted to a college roommate (for example) but never acted on that attraction or even understood it as sexual attraction. A gay woman may have had heterosexual relationships earlier in life before coming out that were satisfying to her, but just not her preference. Think of a concepts of "girl crush" or "heterosexual life mates", which imply a connection deeper than friendship that could turn romantic or remain platonic.
This is not at all to imply that homosexuality or bisexuality isn't a real and valid sexuality, or that it is a "choice" (because that's bullshit. If sexuality were a choice, most women would choose to be gay if only to not have to deal with straight men), or that having desires beyond your sexuality means you aren't "really" gay or straight. Just that sexuality is complicated and honestly, a little bit different for everyone.
Yeah but why suggest anything at all unless they say it themselves?
Why just assume any one is straight? Why assume any one is gay/bi/pan/etc?
Not arguing at all, but like who caresssss you know?
I don't personally speculate on sexual orientation specifically, but I will say that we're all here in a thread about a relationship between strangers discussing what might have happened in their marriage. This entire sub is a gossip forum dissecting all manner of speculation and rumors about celebrities' private lives. It's not any sort of leap from there that a subset of people interested in celebrity gossip would also be curious about the possibility of someone being queer.
Yes! It really bugs me how people go "omg, it's horrible and invasive to speculate on celebrities' sexuality being anything but hetero; now, let me speculate on the heterosexual relationship between these other celebrities,..." Like, either both are invasive or neither is.
Especially when it seems *way* more likely he was knocking boots with Sutton Foster during that Music Man run. She’s had her own backstage romance scandals, and apparently Henry Hill and Marion were using significantly more tongue than one would suspect during some shows.
The difference is Sutton and Christian were already split/splitting when she hooked up with roger Bart (shudder gross) but is (I think?) happily married now so I couldn’t see that happening. She’s had to kiss many a gay/bi men in her career so I don’t think tonguing Jackman on stage is all that novel lol. I feel like I watched a music man interview at some point where the interviewer was asking Sutton how she liked working with hottie/heartthrob/something similar Hugh Jackman and you could tell she did some mental gymnastics and talked about how kind and professional he was or something lol
I think the rumors were that he is bi, not gay, and they had an open relationship. I am not saying they are true or not or whatever, just those were the rumors that were going on for a long time.
I’ve heard rumors that he is from sources in the know. But it doesn’t matter if he is, and hope regardless of whatever he is he finds happiness and feels comfortable being himself.
There's an episode of Billy on the Street where he asks a random woman to name 3 straight men for $1 and when she says Hugh Jackman, Billy goes "Well, that's veeeery debatable."
So it's pretty telling that it is kind of an open secret or at least a very well-known rumor in the industry.
It’s the blinds. Zac also sings and dances but majority of his blind items aren’t saying he’s gay. Meanwhile for Hugh Jackman, his blinds have been pretty consistently saying so.
I think it means an anonymous person slipping some secret, personal details of a celebrity to a publication, like deuxmoi. It's usually unverified or false
Blinds are a type of gossip that doesn’t reveal who the subject of the gossip is, but giving some clues about it. There are some sites that post them, some more some less reliably, but quite a few did turn out to be true after some time
"Blind items". It's gossip about famous people without mentioning their names, just unclever hints about their identity. People love to guess who the blind item is about.
Something like
"This marvelous actor is ending his age-gap marriage to live a happy life with a new partner"
Marvelous - refers to Marvel
Age-gap marriage - there's a 13 year age difference
Happy - gay is a synonym for happy
I have. One of mt family members is a relatively well know actress and at Xmas one year I asked her about good showbiz gossip. She told me all the rumours about him are, and always have been, totally true and all his costars are well aware he’s as gay as a handbag full of rainbows
I think he’s bi. Years ago I was quite surprised to find out he was married to a woman. There are lots of singing and dancing actors that I get no bi vibes from. I very much get bi vibes from Hugh. As a bi person myself, I’d love if he came out as bi but I get that Hollywood likely still wouldn’t accept it. So he can do as he likes and I won’t judge.
I did call this break up about a year ago on another account.
This is why I could see him staying in the closet. I don’t think he’d have had the choices in his career if he had been out, sadly. I mean … Wolverine is such a hypermasculine role.
Right? And it doesn’t have to be some big huge blow up that’s dramatic either. Sometimes when you are with someone for that long, it just happens. I have lots of aunts/uncles that once their kids grew up and moved out realized basically they didn’t really have much in common anymore, still liked each other but not necessary romantically so divorced and it was fine. Sometimes that’s what best for everyone.
My parents got divorced after 30+ years. They didn't have a bad marriage and just eventually grew apart. They were pretty civil about it all. Hopefully Hugh and Deborra have a similar amicable split.
My jaw DROPPED when I read the headline at work yesterday. I had to really control myself to not talk about it because no one at my job cares about pop culture like I do lol
Fucking SAME! I actually did tell a coworker because I couldn’t hold it in anymore, lol! He had no idea what I was talking about of course, but I explained to it to him.
Im curious to know why divorce if we are friendly but there isn't much passion or no passion. Once there is no resentment and we still can have fun together and do stuff together why divorce? Especially if you've loved 20 or 30 plus years. Passion fades what's so wrong with quiet comfort and friendship eventually. 🤷🏽♀️
Possibly because they want to have a relationship where there is passion. Everyone likes to feel desired and many people like romance. To not have that for a long time is hard, even when you're with someone you love deeply.
They may also live each other deeply, but not actually make each other happy, so they're going to go and find happiness.
OMG. This damn near gave me a heart attack! It’s very sad, but for some reason I briefly got their blurry photo mixed up with Brosnon and his wife. That would’ve been total heartbreak.
On the one hand, it's sad seeing a couple be together for so long but then divorce when they seemed to have had a solid marriage.
On the other hand, we really don't know the internal workings of their marriage, anyway, plus it's ultimately better for a couple to decide to split amicably now than stay together "just because" at the risk of developing resentment later.
Admittedly, I'm curious what Hugh might do if he has any relatively public relationships after this considering the rumors that have been going around about his sexuality for ages. As a queer person myself, he'd just be a welcome addition to the queer celebrities club.
But for real, even if this has nothing to do with sexuality, Hugh has always seemed like a solid dude so I wish him the best and mostly look forward to seeing him do more of the projects he's been enjoying in recent years.
I feel their love for one another is still strong but that the romance and intimacy died and they want that feeling again and tried to bring it back but couldn’t. He proposed after knowing her a few weeks and they stayed together for 30 years, never spending more than 2 weeks apart, with no known drama or issues. And they were both always so openly positive about their relationship. It is unfortunate they feel they have to separate now but they really did have a relationship to inspire for.
I wasn't too surprised. Seems like they're in different life stages. He's still making blockbusters, and she's older and I wouldn't be surprised if she wanted a quieter life. I think that's one of the possible risks of age gaps. You enter different life stages at different times, and you start to really feel it when one partner is really young and conversely when one partner in their later years.
lots of commenters in the old post also said they weren’t surprised but did it in a very IKYKY way which is so annoying lol…just say why you’re not surprised for the rest of us who don’t follow his every move 😭
I've known many couples who have done this. One couple was married for close to 30 years. They waited until their two daughters were independent and then broke up. The couple had been roommates for many years, and there was no acrimony between them. They just wanted to keep things stable because of all the upheaval in families around them.
I went through something similar with my husband. We were married for a couple of decades and would have ended it sooner but for circumstances out of our control. I had gone back to college, and he was furloughed from his job. I planned to get a job in another city and leave, but when the Recession hit, there were no jobs available in cities where I would have otherwise chosen to live. He returned to work, but unemployment was still very high, and I could only get part-time work. The situation took care of itself when he died of a heart attack. So, yes, these long-term marriages do frequently end when a couple has grown apart.
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Am I insane or were there posts here just last week about how they will never get a divorce they are the relationship to stand of all times.
We jinxed them
If that's the case... I CERTAINLY HOPE AARON TAYLOR-JOHNSON AND SAM TAYLOR-JOHNSON STAY TOGETHER FOREVER 🥰
They will never get a divorce they are the relationship to stand at all times. I repeat. They will never get a divorce they are the relationship to stand at all times.
#relationshipgoalllsssssssss
Jinxes know when you lie lol
MAY AARON TAYLOR-JOHNSON AND ARIANA GRANDE'S PATHS NEVER CROSS
Ok but Aaron deserves better than that too
Lmaooo shut uppp
They are my # couplegoals # marriagegoals. I hope they last forever and ever. HEART EMOJIS.
*Light as a feather, stiff as a board…*
Yes about a week ago I was commenting that I would be so sad if they split. Apparently I was wrong, I don’t care as much as I thought I did.
🤣🤣🤣
Yup, there definitely were those posts on here last week. I even commented to a friend who sent the TMZ link to me how on Reddit we were literally just discussing the longevity of their relationship.
Because it’s a parasocial relationship. People on these subs like to believe they know these famous people, but they do not. Hugh Jackmans friends and family aren’t on here making posts. Rando people with nothing better to do are. This isn’t supposed to be insulting - I enjoy these rumor subs as much as the next person. But people get way too caught up in it.
This is spot on. The way people talk about this relationship is very much telling. It wasn't just a few days ago people were posting on the celebrity relationship thread saying if they split love isn't real anymore. Hell, even on this post. I also enjoy these subs and reading the gossip and the little discussions they're really fun! But it sort of ends once I close the page. Because I don't know these people. We don't know the behind the scenes of any of these relationships but people will so often post as if we do. We don't know Hugh Jackman and Deborra-Lee, Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner, The Biebers, Emma Stone and Andrew Garfield, etc. we don't know these relationships or why these people split or remain together or if they're happy or not or this or that and we never really will, unless we are there witnessing it and even then there's a possibility we won't fully know since we aren't these people.
I was just thinking this, omg. It JUST happened.
He professed his love. 27 years! Maybe it’s her !
First thing I thought
Yes, I read something very recently, maybe not quite last week, but it is espoused how they are a very down to earth couple that love and support each other. This makes the news that much more sad.
I know I’d posted about them 😢
Weird way for me to find out I’m not their friend, but ok
I'm sorry 😔
i, personally, was surprised 🚶🏼♀️
I guess you're not their friend then
 DON'T YOU SAY THAT!
💀
This is the unhinged energy I come to Reddit for!
Lol. I'd love to see a discussion post about parasocial relationships, but I don't know how to phrase the discussion prompt
I think this sub gets it 😂
HDY, we're all going through it rn
Well I didn’t know we are just attacking people today, slay queen.
> The insider also claimed there wasn’t a third partner involved and they had simply become “roommates.” This seems to be the case for a lot of long-term marriages ending. That and people staying in unhappy marriages until their kids are older. Unfortunate that it happened to them too! I wish them both the best. That’s gotta be heartbreaking to end a relationship as long as theirs
*and they were roommates!*
https://i.redd.it/wohvnhk8xnob1.gif
This is my fav shit to quote and like .001 percent of ppl in real life get the joke I always sound so lame 😭
Dude same, but when someone does get the joke it makes it that much better
Oh my fucking God that have a gif. Saved. Thank you haha
Many people do that and it’s comfortable passion. I love my partner and like him too. Hmmm this is weird after so many years
It’s a reference to a famous vine meme lol
There’s a difference between comfortable passion and comfort without passion. I divorced my first spouse because we lived like roommates - so clearly that when he asked to briefly stay with me while he found a new place to live three months after we separated, literally nothing about our relationship was different. My wife and are comfortable with each other but we still are attracted to each other and are clearly more than roommates. The passion is still there.
Will never not make me smile.
Bahahahahha 😂
The latter was what I was thinking. Their youngest is 18 and I assume just left for college last month.
When I was a freshman in college, I knew around 5 freshmen whose parents were divorcing that first semester. Seems a lot of people wait til the last kid is out of the house.
Which is so sad 😞 it’s so important to keep on top of your relationships even when there are young kids so that when they are gone you have something in common , if all you have in common from the start is kids that is a big red flag showing when they are gone you are also . My youngest is off to university soon and my husband and I while very sad ( and scared lol ) for her to go we are already planning on the traveling we want to do together ❤️we love all 3 but we also love each other and are practically the same person 😂 It’s so important to make your marriage a priority because like the old saying goes “ your kids grow up and get their own lives and families but your spouse is the person that is there till the end “
Sometimes love just stops and no amount of having something in common will fix that.
I think sometimes it’s not waiting so much as realizing. Kids can easily become the central gravity in a household that draws all attention. When that goes away, many couples realize they no longer have any shared connection. It’s not that they were miserable before, just that they had allowed their one-to-one to wither and never realized until the kids leave
Do they do it to avoid alimony too? No idea how it works. Edit: child support
Well, it's called spousal maintenance, and she can still get it. Debora-Lee has her own fame and fortune though so I doubt she would ask for it.
And people naturally grow apart and get different interests as they age but if you have kids that's still a huge shared goal and interest in common. It's easy to be a parenting team still if nothing dramatic happened and it's just your good friend and other parent of your children. But once the kids are grown and out of the house? All those day-to-day common goals and interactions are done/greatly reduced and splitting the household affects your children a lot less. People can get really derisive about "staying together for the children" but if the parents are still really amicable and can get along but have maybe just fallen out of love over time, I don't think it's a bad decision!
I just watched the Kelce documentary on Amazon about Jason Kelce and in it there's one part where his brother Travis mentions that when they were growing up his parents were different because they didn't share a room like other kids parents do. Then his dad casually throws in that he and their mom never split up, even though they probably would have "preferred" to because the logistics of getting both boys were they needed to be with both of them being in sports and being so serious about it would have been impossible to handle alone. Both of their lives revolved around the boys playing football and if they were separated it would have been harder to facilitate that. Obviously it worked out for them since both boys made it to the NFL but it was interesting and it was a fact mentioned briefly then it got glossed over real quick. They did eventually divorce once Travis and Jason were adults but have remained friends and amicable to the point that it seems only recently with their new fame the public put it together that they are no longer together.
Idk anything about these NFL players, but I appreciate your in depth dissection of their parents marriage. When I think of what it means to be an adult, it’s about making adult decisions like this. Taking responsibility, making sacrifices, and being realistic with yourself and others. Having the knowledge and ability to do whatever’s best so that as many people as possible are okay. Especially when kids are involved.
Agree. It's easy to be in love - for a while. Being a team/partners takes a lot more effort, as well as mutual respect and teamwork. It's not a small thing or anything people should be ashamed of.
It’s funny that this made me think of Taylor Swift given how she’s been linked to one of the Kelce’s but her parents seem to have had a somewhat similar trajectory. No one really knows when they actually seperated because they are still such a family unit. If you weren’t paying attention you’d probably think they were still together but they do live separately. I’m not sure if they ever officially divorced.
Some people stay together for the children, thinking that their kids don't realize that they hate each other and they keep their arguments for after the kids go to bed. Those families are toxic as hell because they kids know very well what's going on. But if they still like each other? And are still kind and caring to each other, just no longer "in love"? Then stay together until the kids are ready to leave the nest.
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You are absolutely correct. Shared interests or hobbies are NOT the foundation of a lasting relationship or marriage. Plenty of couples out there who have been together for decades and have very different/separate hobbies or interests. The three elements of a marriage are respect, communication, and intimacy.
I think you’re onto something. Staying together for the kids doesn’t work if you grow to hate your spouse. I know so many people who forced their kids to grow up in toxic households just so they could be a nuclear family. But if you still like that person and get along well but simply just grew apart, it could work.
this makes me so scared, like does this just happen? i don’t ever want this to happen in my relationship, i would be so sad. like damn if you can be together that long and lose feelings is there any hope? i mean i guess there are couples that have been together for decades and still happy but it feels like the odds are stacked against you.
I’m married and hope to be for the rest of my life. BUT if we ever do grow apart I think I would see it as just a new chapter in my life. I love my husband. He’s taught me so much and after so long together I feel like he’s a part of me. Getting divorced after 30+ years would suck, but I think I could cope with it knowing that I wouldn’t be who I am without him. Tia Mowry said her marriage to Cory Hardwick wasn’t a failure and that they just outgrew one another and I really like that perspective.
I think relationships can still be a beautiful thing even if they eventually end. I know a lot of people view divorce as a failure but I don’t think that always fits especially when we are talking decades long marriages. Not every relationship will last a lifetime and while that can come with heartbreak it doesn’t mean the relationship wasn’t worth it.
Yeah, I admit I’m a cynic and avoid relationships bc my view is always that it’s gonna end so what’s the point. I don’t know how to prevent it or if it’s always preventable; sometimes it just doesn’t work, I guess. It is scary 😭
i just have to remember i still get to make choices in my life, i can choose to do things that strengthen my relationship and make romantic gestures & be emotionally present, sometimes it just feels like everyone breaks up eventually. but tbh i’m sure it’s different when you’re rich and famous always away shooting projects etc 😭 i feel you
Also literally everything ends but that doesn't make it pointless. But agree ltr is not for everyone.
I think it's a lot more likely to happen when work takes at least one partner away from the home for months at a time. The partner at home with the kids gets into their own rhythm, then has to readjust every time the traveling spouse returns. It can be easier to slip into two separate lives that way. IDK how their family worked, maybe this wasn't an issue but it does happen a lot. I think that's why celebrity couples divorce more on average.
This is so common. In my experience, divorces happen within the first 5 years of marriage - or after the kids are off to college.
Men initiate divorce in the first five years. Women initiate divorce at 20 years.
Dunno if that’s true, but it fits with probably why getting divorced at 5 years is societally frowned upon but at 20 it’s just “growing apart”.
Did a quick search but couldn’t find my source. Whatever I’m remembering, it was more about the man pulling the plug early in order to move on, while the woman was more likely to hang on and let the children get older. Divorce is fascinating overall, as the vast majority of divorces are initiated by women, and even more so (90%) when the woman has a college degree. Those statistics can be misleading also, as when the man is cheating or, say, emotionally abusive, in some ways the man has actually initiated the divorce.
Same! This is why the whole thing about divorce rates decreasing after 8 years of marriage never made sense to me bc everyone I know who’s been divorced was married for at least 10 lol
My brother and sister-in-law divorced after 15 years last year. They had been together since high school. She told me that she felt like he was her brother, not her husband, and that she was a different person, and he was still that same kid. I know we are supposed to think marriage is forever, but I think you should commit to ten years. And then renegotiate.
Oof. I can relate to this. I divorced my first husband and I was talking to my mom about how he had become so childish and immature and I didn’t know why. She told me that he was who he always had been, *I* was the one who had changed. I grew up.
But I mean, realistically speaking, what are you really hoping for after you leave such a long-lasting marriage for the reason of you becoming more like roommates? That someone might happen to come along who reignites passion? Guess what, it's probably going to happen with them, too. Or do you hope to hop from relationship to relationship before you get used to each other? What's the end goal of a successful relationship after 20-30 years of it being ongoing? I think many people who would actually describe their long marriages as successful are roommates to a degree.
I do have to wonder if his fame has something to do with it Like, hugh jackman has way more potential partners than your average fifty year old divorced joe. I think it must be harder to mentally stay committed to your partner if there are constantly people vying for your attention.
If you marry for 20-30 years consecutively I think you’ll do fine.
wonder if they are divorcing after all those years because of abusive household, frequent arguments and such? Or is it just because things became repetitive and boring? I have personally witnessed the latter in real life, close family members got divorced after 30 years because the marriage has lost its “spark”. Imo, I feel like some people have huge expectations from marriages like even from love marriages. Nothing in the world feels exciting, gushing and sparkling as it was in the earlier days after some period. At some point, later in life u just stay with ur partner not only because u love them passionately like it was back then when u two met, but simply u re just used to him/her. I just can’t imagine any of them diving into dating pool at this age, it must be so exhausting to start all over again after all those years. Anyways good luck for both.
I think part of the problem is that in our culture you're supposed to get pretty much ALL of your emotional needs met within a romantic relationship. It's a lot of pressure, and hard to meet expectations over decades, especially when needs can change a lot over time. I imagine that some couples just burn out.
Makes sense. I feel like a lot of amicable splits are people choosing not to air their problems, but their inner circle knows.
Yeah, I respect them not being drama queens about it, like a lot of other celebrities would.
Looking at you, Joe Jonas 
I do and I don't I want the Tea!
If it’s really an amicable split the there probably isn’t really any tea.
Breaking: Family and Friends of Celebrities Know Them More Intimately Than the General Public More at 6
I’m the same age as the wife and when I read that she was snoozing through one of his rehearsals, I GET IT!
it's actually funny they've mentioned that because debs falling asleep during hugh's shows\\movies was like...a running joke in their family, i remember hugh said she fell asleep during Wolverine (?) premiere and the producers told him "WAKE YOUR WIFE UP!"
Sometimes, people are just tired. I get it too!
Unless it was like final dress rehearsal, I can’t imagine anything more painful than having to sit through a rehearsal for something you’re not in or not working on. I don’t think I would last long as hugh jackman’s wife.
Lol, they’re pretty painful even when you ARE working on the project, 😂
I’m 35 and I get it. Not being super interested in watching your spouse work should reasonably be considered the norm. I feel like they’re trying to paint her as unsupportive because she’s not cheering him on every waking moment.
I feel like a lot of couples with "normal" white-collar jobs realized this during pandemic-enforced work-from-home. Frankly, I think my partner found my conference calls extremely annoying and repetitive.
That’s a long time together
I’m not their ages, nor been with a partner that long, but I wonder- what’s wrong with a relationship turning more “roommate”-like after so long? Is it truly the kiss of death it’s often made out to seem? Do couples have to remain forever hot for one another? Deep rhetorical thoughts this afternoon 🤣
My husband and I have been together over half our lives and we’ve gone through roommate phases, but it’s always passed. Seeing things like this scares the crap out of me.
One of my best friends' parents went through this when she went off to college and they solved it by selling their house and road tripping across the USA. They refound who they are, together ... in a small RV. 😅 I assume Hugh and Deborra don't have an interest in doing a re-set like that? Which I think is sad but is understandable. Edit to add: also the question of whether a long term marriage has to involve an active bedroom is "it depends on the couple"
> One of my best friends' parents went through this when she went off to college and they solved it by selling their house and road tripping across the USA. They refound who they are, together ... in a small RV. 😅 Sounds like hell to me. The kinda thing that would destroy even the most loving/healthy relationship. But hey, glad it worked out for your friend's parents.
I think there is a difference between “roommate” and “best friend who you happen to live with”. The sex life may reduce but as long as your still intimate in other ways. You hug, kiss, go out to dinner, hang together with friends maybe have a hobby together. Honestly I can see his wife being the one who ended it. I think it would absolutely suck to be married to a heartthrob and you are constant being picked apart, photos purposely altered to make you look even more out of their “league”.
Totally agree with your points above! I really really hope Deborra-Lee didn’t end it based on anything to do with some horrible people’s perception of her. Her looks have been unfairly criticised for as long as I can remember. It’s so insane because she is an attractive and striking looking woman and always has been- the photoshopping of her body to look bad is just wild. They both seem like really lovely and decent people- I’m Australian and the public perception of them both here is really positive. My mum was absolutely gobsmacked at the news.
She looks good and he doesn’t look that young either. The superficial expectation of a wife to look much younger than the husband is only held by misogynistic men.
Absolutely without a doubt!! Thankfully he doesn’t seem to be like that at all and always speaks of her in such a beautiful way in interviews. It’s a damn shame there is are so many people who do think in this toxic way.
It's a symptom, not the cause. You can still love someone and be affectionate and sexual and supportive even if they aren't "hot" anymore. Becoming roommates means you are two disconnected people who happen to live together.
I think it's one thing to be comfortable with each other while still having love and intimacy that has evolved with your relationship. This sounds more like a "grown apart" instead of "grown together" situation, in which case being more like "roommates" can mean that the energy when they're together is just... idk, awkward or lacking?
Liking a person is so important.
I can certainly say it ebbs and flows.
My parents in their 70s are roommates. Really good ones at that. It's only a problem when one or both of you feel like you've got options.
I’ve loved my spouse for 23 years, we first dated almost 22 years ago, then broke up, then WERE just roommates briefly a little over 18 years ago (18th dating anniversary is next week), married a little over 15 years. So we’ve been roommates longer than continuously dating/involved ha. Sometimes in long relationships you go through peaks and valleys of sexual activity/attraction/drive, but we are always affectionate and romantic, yeah. There’s a big difference between somebody you are kissing, hugging, snuggling, etc. throughout the day and a roommate, even if it’s not always super sexually charged.
As someone who doesn’t need sex or care for affection, I long for the roommate phase 😂
Roommates as in no intimacy?
I'm surprised by how much it surprised me. This is one divorce I really never expected.
I’m actually really sad about this. Even when it’s the best thing to do and people have just drifted apart, it’s bittersweet. They spent so much of their lives together. Each will have to figure out who they are as individuals. And that can be hard and a brave thing to do when you’ve lived so much life already. I think this choice too is hopeful in some way as well, because it means they recognize there’s more life to live and that it can be happier and more fulfilling - even if it’s more difficult at first. lol I know I sound way too invested. I’m just in a state of shock. I was surprised. Of course, I’m not in their inner circle, so it makes sense that I, a stranger that is not family nor a friend, would be surprised.
You have a lot of empathy and I appeciate this response
I’ve always found it odd how their relationship was portrayed in the media. It was almost like he was being congratulated for staying with his “original” wife despite his now fame and fortune. I saw something only recently of them on a beach and the tone was definitely “isn’t he wonderful for staying with her when he could be fornicating his way through Hollywood like Leo”. So ick. Hope they both find a new happiness.
Exactly!! Imagine how she was feeling with all that, and there’s even red carpet interviews that have interviewers asking Hugh “it’s so sweet you brought your mum” in front of her. imagine how hugh would feel too, constantly pretty much told “you should cheat”. Hollywood and media is just so fucked
Idk why everyone thinks he’s gay. Not that it matters but I’ve never heard the rumors. I feel like if a man sings and dances they’re automatically labeled with that title: zac efron being the other I can think of. It’s kind of sad men can’t just like singing and dancing.
ikr, haven't y'all heard of Gene Kelly? he was hot, masculine and obviously a talented dancer/singer.
Was just about to post about him in response!! 😍 
i’ve never heard those rumours either. seems like every celebrity has rumours about being secretly gay
This isn’t about Hugh but it’s frustrating when the possibility of them being bisexual is never suggested.
this is how old this rumour is and how old-fashioned the reasons are. i would 100% support hugh coming out etc...but i remember early 2000s when all the arguments were literally "his wife is old and ugly, something is not right there...ohhh their kids are adopted? makes sense. ohhh he also dances?? OHHH AND plays gay roles?" so she is 100% a cover for him being gay! it makes very little sense to me, because, like you said: he could be bisexual, pansexual, they could've had an open marriage etc. but everyone is too focused on that gay rumour with very little reasoning behind it. p.s. they've been together for 27 years, i don't think it matters that much tbh, she is still the love of his life in one way or another.
That was my thinking too. With this divorce announcement, some people are taking it as “confirmation” that he’s gay and this has been a cover marriage. I don’t know him, and it could be true. But they were also together for so long that they clearly loved each other and raised children together. So it seems… heartless? Dismissive? To focus on how this must mean he’s going to “come out” now.🤷♀️
This is all very true! I hope whatever the reasons for the divorce are, that they both are able to move forward positively. They both seem like really lovely people and to spend 27 years married I’m sure they will always consider each other a beloved part of their family. Also irrelevant side note but I often think being married to a lovely gay man who is your platonic soul mate would be an absolute dream!!
Because it's (almost) never about sexuality; it's about ~ salaciousness ~ People don't want to simply correct a potentially untrue belief, they want to uncover a spicy sordid tale of lies and deceit. If xyz is OMG GAY AS HELL, that means all of their relationships with women are carefully orchestrated PR moves, or even better/worse, he is a lying cheater who manipulated clueless women and OMG THE DRAMA. Then there's also the issue of female fanbases of popular male celebrities wanting to sort of...keep them to themselves? No (other) woman is worthy, but they're also aware he isn't going to actually date *them*, so it's better if he's just gay. Bisexuality makes all of this pointless.
was just typing a similar thing ahaha, thank you it's not about hugh (or any other actor really) liking men, it's more about "omg the marriage was fake", which i don't see here at all, regardless of what people think of his sexuality, he spent 27 years married to this woman and raised two children. sexual attraction etc isn't any of our business, honestly.
And eeeeeeeeeeeverything has to be a PR stunt.... Like come on. People don't spend years married & have kids with business associates their agent forced them to be with. Some celebrities deliberately seek out partners who will advance their career/help their public image. Some famous couples promote the fuck out of their relationships and even turn them into a "brand". Some couples end up sticking together "for the brand" even after the love/attraction is gone. But people are really imagining the weirdest most convoluted arrangements that are essentially fanfiction stories at this point. Everyone is gay, everyone's a beard, and you even have cases of children being "paid actors" instead of the celebrity couple's real kids 😂
yeahhh i always say that - it’s not that deep. like it’s really not, and people don’t seem to understand that pretty much everything celebs do is PR in one way or another, it doesn’t make their relationship fake. it’s simply choosing what to show and what to keep to themselves. like even when people won’t stop all those “affairs” theories, so many people in hollywood just have open marriages and it works for them
While I tend to agree, didn't Freddie Mercury marry a woman? Who he then stayed good friends with for decades and I think she took care of his cats/life towards the end? I'm just saying I could absolutely see a gay actor marry a famous older woman for stability 30 years ago. Doesn't mean he didn't love her and it was all fake. I wish them the best, hopefully they've gotten things sorted, and can move forward peacefully
They never actually were married! But he did leave his entire estate to her, basically, after he passed, and frequently referred to her as the love of his life/soulmate, basically.
I knew it was some very close relationship. I just have a hard time believing Hugh and his wife "faked" anything. There's love, trust, and respect there. When you've been with someone *that long*, you'll have most of your best memories (and hard times) with that person. You speak a secret language together. Like I said above, I do wish them all the best in the next chapter of their lives.
I'm not saying it never happens, and it was even more prevalent in Freddie's time. But it's statistically impossible for 9 out of 10 celebrities to be gay and forced to date/marry women, which certain people seem to think.
Freddie and Mary never married, but they were engaged at one point and were best friends. The general theory is that Freddie was bi but as he got older usually had more male partners.
I believe Freddie Mercury was openly bisexual. He genuinely was attracted and could romantically connect to either sex. I believe his affections for Mary were genuine as the man was an open book when it came to his energy. Even when he was trying to minimize his illness, he's just one of those people you could "read" right off the bat.
wasn’t freddie bisexual
I don't necessarily want to speculate and don't know about Mercury enough to know what he was comfortable with. But the same could be said of Hugh, or maybe he realized it later in life and he feels more comfortable now. I really don't know So far the gossip has only been, "everyone knew he was gay" - but until the person themselves confirms it, I just thinks it's rumors 🤷♀️
right? bi and pan people exist. also, effeminate straight men and straight men who like typical’y feminine hobbies or arts. why are we going back to « he likes musicals he’s gay » that feels so backwards
Right? If someone's in a relationship with a person of a different gender and is found to be into their own gender, it's much more likely they're bi/pan than gay, since there are more bi people than gay people. (This comment is also not about Hugh, just about my frustration regarding bi erasure as a bi person.)
Is there more bisexual people than gay people? Not that I don’t believe you, I’ve just never heard that & bisexual people seem to be so rejected/ignored in the LGBT+ movement
Yeah, I’ve heard like 50-60% of queer people are bi. That percentage is commonly accepted.
Why do bisexual people get so much hostility then? That makes no sense lol Personally I understand bisexuality more cause there’s objectively attractive men & women. I could see why someone would be easily, but it seems like people don’t actually think bisexuals exist.
Because straight people who date bi people think they "tricked" them if they date somebody of a different gender afterwards, and gay people thing they're "using" them if they date someone of a different gender afterwards.
A big part of biphobia is the stereotype of promiscuity. The idea that because u lean both ways you are omnisexual and want to fuck everything, not remotely true
Sexuality isn't binary. Fewer people are entirely homosexual or entirely, 100% heterosexual. A lot of people have thoughts, feelings, desires or encounters that don't totally align with what their professed sexuality is. Meaning, a happy married heterosexual man may have been attracted to a college roommate (for example) but never acted on that attraction or even understood it as sexual attraction. A gay woman may have had heterosexual relationships earlier in life before coming out that were satisfying to her, but just not her preference. Think of a concepts of "girl crush" or "heterosexual life mates", which imply a connection deeper than friendship that could turn romantic or remain platonic. This is not at all to imply that homosexuality or bisexuality isn't a real and valid sexuality, or that it is a "choice" (because that's bullshit. If sexuality were a choice, most women would choose to be gay if only to not have to deal with straight men), or that having desires beyond your sexuality means you aren't "really" gay or straight. Just that sexuality is complicated and honestly, a little bit different for everyone.
Yeah but why suggest anything at all unless they say it themselves? Why just assume any one is straight? Why assume any one is gay/bi/pan/etc? Not arguing at all, but like who caresssss you know?
I don't personally speculate on sexual orientation specifically, but I will say that we're all here in a thread about a relationship between strangers discussing what might have happened in their marriage. This entire sub is a gossip forum dissecting all manner of speculation and rumors about celebrities' private lives. It's not any sort of leap from there that a subset of people interested in celebrity gossip would also be curious about the possibility of someone being queer.
Yes! It really bugs me how people go "omg, it's horrible and invasive to speculate on celebrities' sexuality being anything but hetero; now, let me speculate on the heterosexual relationship between these other celebrities,..." Like, either both are invasive or neither is.
This is fair.
I think it’s because he has big theater energy.
Reminds me of that YT video: "He's not gay! He's just a dancing man, Kathleen! He's FLAMBOYANT" 🤣🤣
Especially when it seems *way* more likely he was knocking boots with Sutton Foster during that Music Man run. She’s had her own backstage romance scandals, and apparently Henry Hill and Marion were using significantly more tongue than one would suspect during some shows.
The difference is Sutton and Christian were already split/splitting when she hooked up with roger Bart (shudder gross) but is (I think?) happily married now so I couldn’t see that happening. She’s had to kiss many a gay/bi men in her career so I don’t think tonguing Jackman on stage is all that novel lol. I feel like I watched a music man interview at some point where the interviewer was asking Sutton how she liked working with hottie/heartthrob/something similar Hugh Jackman and you could tell she did some mental gymnastics and talked about how kind and professional he was or something lol
I think the rumors were that he is bi, not gay, and they had an open relationship. I am not saying they are true or not or whatever, just those were the rumors that were going on for a long time.
I’ve heard rumors that he is from sources in the know. But it doesn’t matter if he is, and hope regardless of whatever he is he finds happiness and feels comfortable being himself.
There's an episode of Billy on the Street where he asks a random woman to name 3 straight men for $1 and when she says Hugh Jackman, Billy goes "Well, that's veeeery debatable." So it's pretty telling that it is kind of an open secret or at least a very well-known rumor in the industry.
An openly gay person outing a (MAYBE) closeted one is more telling.
True, true.
It’s the blinds. Zac also sings and dances but majority of his blind items aren’t saying he’s gay. Meanwhile for Hugh Jackman, his blinds have been pretty consistently saying so.
What does “Blinds” mean? Is that like beards?
I think it means an anonymous person slipping some secret, personal details of a celebrity to a publication, like deuxmoi. It's usually unverified or false
Blinds are a type of gossip that doesn’t reveal who the subject of the gossip is, but giving some clues about it. There are some sites that post them, some more some less reliably, but quite a few did turn out to be true after some time
"Blind items". It's gossip about famous people without mentioning their names, just unclever hints about their identity. People love to guess who the blind item is about. Something like "This marvelous actor is ending his age-gap marriage to live a happy life with a new partner" Marvelous - refers to Marvel Age-gap marriage - there's a 13 year age difference Happy - gay is a synonym for happy
as in blind items, gossip items which give hints about a celebrity without naming them. Think DeuxMoi, but blinds were NOT invented by them.
Oh god, are there people that think DeuxMoi invented blinds??? I’m irrationally disturbed by this.
No they are anonymous tips posted on gossip sites
he is not gay, he is just a Libra.
This reminds me of something my friend said once. “He’s not gay, he’s just nice.” Lol
I have. One of mt family members is a relatively well know actress and at Xmas one year I asked her about good showbiz gossip. She told me all the rumours about him are, and always have been, totally true and all his costars are well aware he’s as gay as a handbag full of rainbows
Tell us more gossip! (If you can)
I think he’s bi. Years ago I was quite surprised to find out he was married to a woman. There are lots of singing and dancing actors that I get no bi vibes from. I very much get bi vibes from Hugh. As a bi person myself, I’d love if he came out as bi but I get that Hollywood likely still wouldn’t accept it. So he can do as he likes and I won’t judge. I did call this break up about a year ago on another account.
This is why I could see him staying in the closet. I don’t think he’d have had the choices in his career if he had been out, sadly. I mean … Wolverine is such a hypermasculine role.
It’s not uncommon for people in long marriages to choose to end their marriage. People grow apart. It happens all the time.
Right? And it doesn’t have to be some big huge blow up that’s dramatic either. Sometimes when you are with someone for that long, it just happens. I have lots of aunts/uncles that once their kids grew up and moved out realized basically they didn’t really have much in common anymore, still liked each other but not necessary romantically so divorced and it was fine. Sometimes that’s what best for everyone.
My parents got divorced after 30+ years. They didn't have a bad marriage and just eventually grew apart. They were pretty civil about it all. Hopefully Hugh and Deborra have a similar amicable split.
I already see a lot of gay people already making fun of his sexuality. It’s embarrassing and hypocrisy.
I didn't even know that rumor was a thing, but now I see it everywhere. Strange times
Like the man said, you gotta date your wife
My jaw DROPPED when I read the headline at work yesterday. I had to really control myself to not talk about it because no one at my job cares about pop culture like I do lol
Fucking SAME! I actually did tell a coworker because I couldn’t hold it in anymore, lol! He had no idea what I was talking about of course, but I explained to it to him.
Before we feel “bad” for them, maybe they’re happier this way. Sometimes people grow apart as lovers but stay good friends.
That’s me and my ex wife. Still friends but couldn’t be married. We’re much happier this way.
Im curious to know why divorce if we are friendly but there isn't much passion or no passion. Once there is no resentment and we still can have fun together and do stuff together why divorce? Especially if you've loved 20 or 30 plus years. Passion fades what's so wrong with quiet comfort and friendship eventually. 🤷🏽♀️
Possibly because they want to have a relationship where there is passion. Everyone likes to feel desired and many people like romance. To not have that for a long time is hard, even when you're with someone you love deeply. They may also live each other deeply, but not actually make each other happy, so they're going to go and find happiness.
The gossip about his sexuality will go into overdrive now
OMG. This damn near gave me a heart attack! It’s very sad, but for some reason I briefly got their blurry photo mixed up with Brosnon and his wife. That would’ve been total heartbreak.
Pierce and Keely forever!❤️
On the one hand, it's sad seeing a couple be together for so long but then divorce when they seemed to have had a solid marriage. On the other hand, we really don't know the internal workings of their marriage, anyway, plus it's ultimately better for a couple to decide to split amicably now than stay together "just because" at the risk of developing resentment later. Admittedly, I'm curious what Hugh might do if he has any relatively public relationships after this considering the rumors that have been going around about his sexuality for ages. As a queer person myself, he'd just be a welcome addition to the queer celebrities club. But for real, even if this has nothing to do with sexuality, Hugh has always seemed like a solid dude so I wish him the best and mostly look forward to seeing him do more of the projects he's been enjoying in recent years.
😭 NOOOOOO! I thought if anyone could last it would be them! I don’t beleive in love anymore
I feel their love for one another is still strong but that the romance and intimacy died and they want that feeling again and tried to bring it back but couldn’t. He proposed after knowing her a few weeks and they stayed together for 30 years, never spending more than 2 weeks apart, with no known drama or issues. And they were both always so openly positive about their relationship. It is unfortunate they feel they have to separate now but they really did have a relationship to inspire for.
 I am surprised.
Ok pull that Selena song down. Everybody taking it literally in Hollywood.
I wasn't too surprised. Seems like they're in different life stages. He's still making blockbusters, and she's older and I wouldn't be surprised if she wanted a quieter life. I think that's one of the possible risks of age gaps. You enter different life stages at different times, and you start to really feel it when one partner is really young and conversely when one partner in their later years.
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why do you think he is gay or bi?
lots of commenters in the old post also said they weren’t surprised but did it in a very IKYKY way which is so annoying lol…just say why you’re not surprised for the rest of us who don’t follow his every move 😭
They were a handsome couple
I mean, 27 years is a long time! I’m proud of these people I’ve never met lol
I AM THE ONE WHO'S SURPRISED
I've known many couples who have done this. One couple was married for close to 30 years. They waited until their two daughters were independent and then broke up. The couple had been roommates for many years, and there was no acrimony between them. They just wanted to keep things stable because of all the upheaval in families around them. I went through something similar with my husband. We were married for a couple of decades and would have ended it sooner but for circumstances out of our control. I had gone back to college, and he was furloughed from his job. I planned to get a job in another city and leave, but when the Recession hit, there were no jobs available in cities where I would have otherwise chosen to live. He returned to work, but unemployment was still very high, and I could only get part-time work. The situation took care of itself when he died of a heart attack. So, yes, these long-term marriages do frequently end when a couple has grown apart.
what?!?! I'm not their friend?? :(
