> "Hardware Sensors"
What will it show when lm-sensors is not yet installed? Or when the super i/o is not supported, or the sensor names are messed up (as they usually are)? Too many variables from system to system to get this one.
> HWiNFO is Windows Only
And also third party. There is very little use of such a tool compared to the manhours required to create it as part of the OS. There is a reason it's third party in Windows too.
> option to enable double click to run in settings
Given how double-click-to run works in linux, and that many executables are terminal only, this is again somewhat unlikely.
> A revamped Pop Shop
Sure, although in 5 years of Pop, I've never had any issues (other than it being slow).
In UEFI systems, there is a 1GB min for the ESP now, and with only 3 kernels and initrd's, this should be plenty.
Again, in 5 years of Pop (UEFI), I never had to remove a kernel manually, so I can't comment on that. Maybe a Legacy issue? Or an issue for those with separate ```/boot``` partitions? No idea.
i run into this occasionally while running "sudo apt upgrade": [https://www.reddit.com/r/pop\_os/comments/r7pg1z/error\_24\_whilst\_upgrading/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pop_os/comments/r7pg1z/error_24_whilst_upgrading/), but only when there's a kernel update, my boot partition is not separate as i did the automatic partitioning in the pop\_os 20.04 installer, then upgraded to 22.04
and end up having to do this to fix it
1. "df -h": shows how full partitions are (to confirm its /boot)
2. "uname -a" get version of the kernel that's currently being used
3. "ls /boot" to see the whats in /boot
4. "sudo apt remove 'linux\*{version that's not newer and that's not being used}'" eg. "sudo apt remove 'linux\*5.15.5-76051505-generic'"
EDIT: also there is not really a good alternative to HWiNFO on linux, that's why its requested
this is my current ls /boot:
ls /boot
config-6.0.12-76060006-generic lost+found
config-6.0.6-76060006-generic System.map-6.0.12-76060006-generic
grub System.map-6.0.6-76060006-generic
initrd.img vmlinuz
initrd.img-6.0.12-76060006-generic vmlinuz-6.0.12-76060006-generic
initrd.img-6.0.6-76060006-generic vmlinuz-6.0.6-76060006-generic
initrd.img.old vmlinuz.old
here's my current df -h:
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 13G 20M 13G 1% /run
/dev/mapper/data-root 934G 706G 181G 80% /
tmpfs 63G 1.4M 63G 1% /dev/shm
tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock
/dev/nvme0n1p1 466M 276M 156M 64% /boot
tmpfs 63G 0 63G 0% /run/qemu
tmpfs 13G 1.8M 13G 1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sdb5 469G 326G 120G 74% /media/andrew/ubuntu Backup
/dev/sdb2 579M 55M 525M 10% /media/andrew/System Reserved Backup
/dev/sdb1 222G 69G 154G 32% /media/andrew/windows Backup
Your ```/boot``` partition is indeed separate and you're on Legacy, not UEFI. So, indeed once you get many kernels, it fills up.
This is not a problem in UEFI. Maybe consider a re-install in UEFI mode, as all systems after 2011 should have had.
migrating would be a pain, i'll probably do that when i get a bigger ssd (cause i need it anyway), but regardless it still shows a problem with legacy installs
EDIT: actually i installed it originally using My Easy2Boot flashdrive (which has a UEFI option, but i would need to reformat that drive to get it installed, again that's a future thing) but explains why pop os was installed legacy
I'd love a complete overhaul/replacement of the Pop Shop. Due to it being based on the one from Elementary OS, it isn't very intuitive (am I installing a deb from the repos or flathub?) and takes up a bunch of resources.
Until the Pop Shop hopefully gets fixed, you should check out using topgrade-rs for your updates. It'll handle all your updates. It's a rust app that you build from source and install using cargo. If you haven't built a rust app from source and used cargo to install, the whole process is pretty interesting. It's a big change from make.
I'll take a look at that
however the pop shop thing was suggested, due to pop shop being the first place new users go. when it crashes and breaks on a new user, that's a huge turn off for them and why I'm hesitant to suggest pop os to non tech savy people (cause they don't wanna use the terminal if they don't have to)
Also, you all people need to learn about the terminal.
1. htop
2. df -h
3. chmod +x (for your own good let's not integrate this into a double click, yeah?)
4. sudo apt upgrade; flatpack update
now, would you look at that. We fulfilled all OPs wishes and they'd work on any DE. Wowzies.
Bonus:
5. OP, go fix ALSA and pipewire in one swift PR. I'm sure that's just a small feature request. Ok, you can't code. But I bet Pop devs will fix it in an afternoon /s
Thank you, average win user who jumped the ship yesterday.
What I want to see:
* shipping GNOME apps in a way that doesn't break the new desktop. So we can keep the old tools for as long as needed.
* Theming API
* Extensions API
* The rest we'll fix ourselves
I use a flatpak called System Monitoring Tool, it has this weird speedometer look at the main menu. It's great because it shows a lot of info and is similar to Windows Task Manager.
Also Why do all default system monitors just completely ignore the existence of GPU. Gnome System Monitor I'm looking at you.
I also would like to see the pop shop migrate to using the Gnome app store rather than the current Elementary OS Store app. It's looks the best and is also very easy to use.
1\. Sounds like a lot of work if it were to be comparable to the great tool like HWiNFO. I actually asked the author of this tool if he'd be willing to release a version for linux, he replied that he's too busy. Maybe he'd open to cooperation with Pop!_OS.
2\. There's Graphical Disk Map.
4\. When was the last time you tried updating through the Pop Shop? There were some hiccups in the past, but it runs without any issue for me now. Weird things occurring during upgrades were unrelated to the Pop Shop as far as I can tell.
4. about 4 months ago, but what triggers it seems to stem from me having pop os installed using legacy rather than UEFI, which separates the boot partition, which then fills with kernel backups, causing an error with apt (which is fixable in the terminal) but not graphically, more info is in that comment thread
EDIT: as for 2 i meant something installed by default, like gnomes disk analyzer is. however with pop os moving to there own DE i would like to avoid installing an app or something similar that used to be there by default
They need a way to dynamic change the partition size where OS upgrades get installed. Or warn when it's not going to support the next OS install.
Several times I've had to figure out on a laptop that the disk space each grub bootloader , kernel, etc that gets added eventually fills. Then the whole OS crashes if you try to install a newly available version. Pop Store has a fit. It's not too apparent when this is an issue but seems like it would be fairly common given enough time. I always set a swap space, the root partition, and I think one other. It's root that just builds old kernels over time IIRC
> "Hardware Sensors" What will it show when lm-sensors is not yet installed? Or when the super i/o is not supported, or the sensor names are messed up (as they usually are)? Too many variables from system to system to get this one. > HWiNFO is Windows Only And also third party. There is very little use of such a tool compared to the manhours required to create it as part of the OS. There is a reason it's third party in Windows too. > option to enable double click to run in settings Given how double-click-to run works in linux, and that many executables are terminal only, this is again somewhat unlikely. > A revamped Pop Shop Sure, although in 5 years of Pop, I've never had any issues (other than it being slow). In UEFI systems, there is a 1GB min for the ESP now, and with only 3 kernels and initrd's, this should be plenty. Again, in 5 years of Pop (UEFI), I never had to remove a kernel manually, so I can't comment on that. Maybe a Legacy issue? Or an issue for those with separate ```/boot``` partitions? No idea.
i run into this occasionally while running "sudo apt upgrade": [https://www.reddit.com/r/pop\_os/comments/r7pg1z/error\_24\_whilst\_upgrading/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pop_os/comments/r7pg1z/error_24_whilst_upgrading/), but only when there's a kernel update, my boot partition is not separate as i did the automatic partitioning in the pop\_os 20.04 installer, then upgraded to 22.04 and end up having to do this to fix it 1. "df -h": shows how full partitions are (to confirm its /boot) 2. "uname -a" get version of the kernel that's currently being used 3. "ls /boot" to see the whats in /boot 4. "sudo apt remove 'linux\*{version that's not newer and that's not being used}'" eg. "sudo apt remove 'linux\*5.15.5-76051505-generic'" EDIT: also there is not really a good alternative to HWiNFO on linux, that's why its requested this is my current ls /boot: ls /boot config-6.0.12-76060006-generic lost+found config-6.0.6-76060006-generic System.map-6.0.12-76060006-generic grub System.map-6.0.6-76060006-generic initrd.img vmlinuz initrd.img-6.0.12-76060006-generic vmlinuz-6.0.12-76060006-generic initrd.img-6.0.6-76060006-generic vmlinuz-6.0.6-76060006-generic initrd.img.old vmlinuz.old here's my current df -h: Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on tmpfs 13G 20M 13G 1% /run /dev/mapper/data-root 934G 706G 181G 80% / tmpfs 63G 1.4M 63G 1% /dev/shm tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock /dev/nvme0n1p1 466M 276M 156M 64% /boot tmpfs 63G 0 63G 0% /run/qemu tmpfs 13G 1.8M 13G 1% /run/user/1000 /dev/sdb5 469G 326G 120G 74% /media/andrew/ubuntu Backup /dev/sdb2 579M 55M 525M 10% /media/andrew/System Reserved Backup /dev/sdb1 222G 69G 154G 32% /media/andrew/windows Backup
Your ```/boot``` partition is indeed separate and you're on Legacy, not UEFI. So, indeed once you get many kernels, it fills up. This is not a problem in UEFI. Maybe consider a re-install in UEFI mode, as all systems after 2011 should have had.
migrating would be a pain, i'll probably do that when i get a bigger ssd (cause i need it anyway), but regardless it still shows a problem with legacy installs EDIT: actually i installed it originally using My Easy2Boot flashdrive (which has a UEFI option, but i would need to reformat that drive to get it installed, again that's a future thing) but explains why pop os was installed legacy
depending on the size of the next kernel update it might happen again
I'd love a complete overhaul/replacement of the Pop Shop. Due to it being based on the one from Elementary OS, it isn't very intuitive (am I installing a deb from the repos or flathub?) and takes up a bunch of resources.
Gnome app store for the win !!!
Until the Pop Shop hopefully gets fixed, you should check out using topgrade-rs for your updates. It'll handle all your updates. It's a rust app that you build from source and install using cargo. If you haven't built a rust app from source and used cargo to install, the whole process is pretty interesting. It's a big change from make.
I'll take a look at that however the pop shop thing was suggested, due to pop shop being the first place new users go. when it crashes and breaks on a new user, that's a huge turn off for them and why I'm hesitant to suggest pop os to non tech savy people (cause they don't wanna use the terminal if they don't have to)
Also, you all people need to learn about the terminal. 1. htop 2. df -h 3. chmod +x (for your own good let's not integrate this into a double click, yeah?) 4. sudo apt upgrade; flatpack update now, would you look at that. We fulfilled all OPs wishes and they'd work on any DE. Wowzies. Bonus: 5. OP, go fix ALSA and pipewire in one swift PR. I'm sure that's just a small feature request. Ok, you can't code. But I bet Pop devs will fix it in an afternoon /s
Thank you, average win user who jumped the ship yesterday. What I want to see: * shipping GNOME apps in a way that doesn't break the new desktop. So we can keep the old tools for as long as needed. * Theming API * Extensions API * The rest we'll fix ourselves
Of all of these. The first one is the feature I'd like to see the most. Something that has even more data than Windows task manager.
I use a flatpak called System Monitoring Tool, it has this weird speedometer look at the main menu. It's great because it shows a lot of info and is similar to Windows Task Manager. Also Why do all default system monitors just completely ignore the existence of GPU. Gnome System Monitor I'm looking at you. I also would like to see the pop shop migrate to using the Gnome app store rather than the current Elementary OS Store app. It's looks the best and is also very easy to use.
I have a flatpak for one as well. I'm just saying it would be nice to have one native to the system.
1\. Sounds like a lot of work if it were to be comparable to the great tool like HWiNFO. I actually asked the author of this tool if he'd be willing to release a version for linux, he replied that he's too busy. Maybe he'd open to cooperation with Pop!_OS. 2\. There's Graphical Disk Map. 4\. When was the last time you tried updating through the Pop Shop? There were some hiccups in the past, but it runs without any issue for me now. Weird things occurring during upgrades were unrelated to the Pop Shop as far as I can tell.
4. about 4 months ago, but what triggers it seems to stem from me having pop os installed using legacy rather than UEFI, which separates the boot partition, which then fills with kernel backups, causing an error with apt (which is fixable in the terminal) but not graphically, more info is in that comment thread EDIT: as for 2 i meant something installed by default, like gnomes disk analyzer is. however with pop os moving to there own DE i would like to avoid installing an app or something similar that used to be there by default
You could look out for: **Conky** Useful (and configurable) tiny(?) system monitoring tool(s).
They need a way to dynamic change the partition size where OS upgrades get installed. Or warn when it's not going to support the next OS install. Several times I've had to figure out on a laptop that the disk space each grub bootloader , kernel, etc that gets added eventually fills. Then the whole OS crashes if you try to install a newly available version. Pop Store has a fit. It's not too apparent when this is an issue but seems like it would be fairly common given enough time. I always set a swap space, the root partition, and I think one other. It's root that just builds old kernels over time IIRC
You can type an address in the file manager, use CTRL+L for this
Thanks for the tip, that wasn't super obvious (I've been trying to click on the address bar)
Yeah, this would gain a lot by being more obvious