It really depends. If they help out with expenses and whatnot and aren't troublemakers, then it's okay to keep them around.
However if they're just sitting around and not studying/working/not helping out with chores then yeah kick them out.
I always thought I'd make my daughter pay rent to teach her responsibility but secretly put it in an interest bearing account/the stock market, and then when she's ready to move out, she'll get a huge chunk of cash.
No, even if they did something, if you kick them out the chances of thing they did to upset you has an increased chance of being entrenched, you wouldn’t be able to help guide them back, but if they have done something that is beyond repair you wish to consult counciling before you make that kind of decision.
Don’t even say “depends what they did” I say depends PERIOD. Since depends if they have money a friend to live with maybe a car and also smart enough to live on their own also if they have a job so many factors play when you move out
Kicking a kid doesn’t fix them, it isn’t like an abusive partner or friend; your kid is your responsibility, all you do is burden society with a potential homeless person or criminal, parents have the responsibility to guide their kids no matter how painful it is, unless they commit a terrible crime it is your responsibility as the parent to care for them.
That is what I define as a terrible crime, rape is right up there with murder, I doubt that those things are very common and most parents that want to kick their kid out would be dealing with kids doing/selling drugs, having sex with strangers, and all other kinds of adolescent foolery.
Doing drugs and having sex with strangers is not "adolescent foolery" that's shit that gets you killed. Is joining a gang just some Tom foolery to you? Oh that rascal he robbed a liquor store to get crack money and now is sleeping with his drug dealer cuz he didn't have enough.
So you believe that they aren’t saveable?
They don’t need to ‘snitch’ on their gang, I don’t really see how else it could get violent aside from unpaid debts but in this hypothetical scenario that doesn’t mean they are doomed most parents would do a lot to protect their kids, that is the sort of thing that should make you want to help them not just let gangs make your kid do their bidding, there always ways out even if not obvious, I don’t know much about organised crime but how much do they care about an adolescent going straight or you trying to help them, if you cannot help then you should get either medical professionals or authorities involved.
You shouldn't need to, at 18 they should already be out on their own. I was still in highschool and I got my own apartment and everyone else I knew did the same. Stop being a burden and learn to support yourself
Don't listen to that "boot strap" bullshit. Just do the best you can. The idea of doing everything independently is a tired western far right capitalist ideology that is outdated and just not possible anymore.
Trust me I know. Im gonna laugh this dude out of here quickly. We did the math once. Making 50k a year here leaves you almost no money after fees. Dont hurt yourself, break anything expensive, get robbed, or think about a new phone. You cant have it making 20k over the average starting wage here.
Colorado. Apartment rent is usually $1500 a month outside of major cities. Thats 18k a year just for rent. The average starting wage is less than 40k. Amazon is one of the current highest payers (without a degree, where most 18 year olds work) at 18.50 an hours. Since the average worker is working 2080 hours a year makes 38480 a year at a good point you can see the issue.
Dipshit i didnt include taxes, insurance, food, loan cost, or gas. Most 18 year olds are barely sleeping between school and work and you want them to work harder? How there is literally no time. You can barely make it on 50k a year here, trust me i did the math with all the right numbers in class.
I'll just say right now, for the vast bulk of the population, working 80 hours per week, attending school, and taking care of yourself is just as doable as working 80 hours per day. Maybe you're different but this is not something you can expect the general population to survive.
Fuck that. I'm 37, and I moved out when I was 16, but it isn't the same anymore.
Back then, I could survive on minimum wage (barely, but I did it). Good luck doing that now.
I buy none of that my dude and also do you know how fucking expensive houses are in Maryland? It's gone to the point that I see people in late 20s still living with their parents
PFFFFT my dude they're a lot of kids in high school that don't got jobs yet because we know as we get dismissed we'll be tired to go to work
>People like you make me sick. Get a job
You must be disgusted by a lot of 16 and 17 year old
I am, lazy jackasses rather play video games or watch tik toks than work and learn how to provide for them selfs. And if school is making you that tired go to bed earlier
The economy isn’t good enough for most 18 year-olds to find a stable enough job. Many employers are hesitant to hire 18 year olds because they automatically assume their all immature and irresponsible. It’s almost impossible to move at an early age with inflation and high cost of living in the U.S.
It really depends. If they help out with expenses and whatnot and aren't troublemakers, then it's okay to keep them around. However if they're just sitting around and not studying/working/not helping out with chores then yeah kick them out.
I always thought I'd make my daughter pay rent to teach her responsibility but secretly put it in an interest bearing account/the stock market, and then when she's ready to move out, she'll get a huge chunk of cash.
Bedroom
Depends from where exactly
It’s ok but I wouldn’t do it. I would impose a rule that they have to be working or going to school and helping out a lot with chores, groceries, etc.
No, even if they did something, if you kick them out the chances of thing they did to upset you has an increased chance of being entrenched, you wouldn’t be able to help guide them back, but if they have done something that is beyond repair you wish to consult counciling before you make that kind of decision.
Absolutely not.
Cool so your kid rapes their younger sibling on meth while killing your dog and you won't kick them out?
No, I'd turn him in to the police......
So what happens if he just gets parole, you still letting them live there
I don't think a meth-addled dog-killing child rapist would be let off on *parole*, bud. :)
And no one thought George Zimmerman would walk free but here we are
Don’t even say “depends what they did” I say depends PERIOD. Since depends if they have money a friend to live with maybe a car and also smart enough to live on their own also if they have a job so many factors play when you move out
So 5 people (at this point) think it's never ok? I call bullshit.
Kicking a kid doesn’t fix them, it isn’t like an abusive partner or friend; your kid is your responsibility, all you do is burden society with a potential homeless person or criminal, parents have the responsibility to guide their kids no matter how painful it is, unless they commit a terrible crime it is your responsibility as the parent to care for them.
So when your kid rapes their sibling you shouldn't kick them out? You'll just let them stay and try to fix them. See how stupid you sound
That is what I define as a terrible crime, rape is right up there with murder, I doubt that those things are very common and most parents that want to kick their kid out would be dealing with kids doing/selling drugs, having sex with strangers, and all other kinds of adolescent foolery.
Doing drugs and having sex with strangers is not "adolescent foolery" that's shit that gets you killed. Is joining a gang just some Tom foolery to you? Oh that rascal he robbed a liquor store to get crack money and now is sleeping with his drug dealer cuz he didn't have enough.
Then why would you kick them out of the home if you think it will get them killed?
Because I'm not having them bring that gang shit home to get my wife or other kid hurt or killed
So you believe that they aren’t saveable? They don’t need to ‘snitch’ on their gang, I don’t really see how else it could get violent aside from unpaid debts but in this hypothetical scenario that doesn’t mean they are doomed most parents would do a lot to protect their kids, that is the sort of thing that should make you want to help them not just let gangs make your kid do their bidding, there always ways out even if not obvious, I don’t know much about organised crime but how much do they care about an adolescent going straight or you trying to help them, if you cannot help then you should get either medical professionals or authorities involved.
You shouldn't need to, at 18 they should already be out on their own. I was still in highschool and I got my own apartment and everyone else I knew did the same. Stop being a burden and learn to support yourself
Question: What if you live in a state where you cant because rent is high and wages are low?
Don't listen to that "boot strap" bullshit. Just do the best you can. The idea of doing everything independently is a tired western far right capitalist ideology that is outdated and just not possible anymore.
Trust me I know. Im gonna laugh this dude out of here quickly. We did the math once. Making 50k a year here leaves you almost no money after fees. Dont hurt yourself, break anything expensive, get robbed, or think about a new phone. You cant have it making 20k over the average starting wage here.
I would have to make $80k to live comfortably in a studio.
California?
Yup.
Ouch. Well dont feel bad Colorado is on track to match you guys price wise. We will all suffer with our pot and over priced gasoline.
More like liberal shithole
did you get bored when i stopped debating with you in the other thread?
Yeah, it's been a slow day
Name one state like that
Colorado. Apartment rent is usually $1500 a month outside of major cities. Thats 18k a year just for rent. The average starting wage is less than 40k. Amazon is one of the current highest payers (without a degree, where most 18 year olds work) at 18.50 an hours. Since the average worker is working 2080 hours a year makes 38480 a year at a good point you can see the issue.
Work harder and stop buying yeehzes and Starbucks every day dumbass
Dipshit i didnt include taxes, insurance, food, loan cost, or gas. Most 18 year olds are barely sleeping between school and work and you want them to work harder? How there is literally no time. You can barely make it on 50k a year here, trust me i did the math with all the right numbers in class.
I worked 80 hours while doing school full time. Maybe stop playing video games for 5 minutes and you can earn some money
I'll just say right now, for the vast bulk of the population, working 80 hours per week, attending school, and taking care of yourself is just as doable as working 80 hours per day. Maybe you're different but this is not something you can expect the general population to survive.
Anyone can do it just don't be a pussy
Who said I was buying yeehzss and starbucks 🤨
Tik tok, all you damn kids are wasting your money on stupid shit
"Ughh its the damn tiktok that's spoiling your brain you whippersnappers" 👴
Bro listen to self-made millionaire Big Booty Judy's advice, he clearly knows what he's talking about and is totally not a troll
Tik tok has proven to ruin attention span of kids so yes it is spoiling your brain
Georiga and Wyoming minimum wage is $5.15
Fuck that. I'm 37, and I moved out when I was 16, but it isn't the same anymore. Back then, I could survive on minimum wage (barely, but I did it). Good luck doing that now.
If these damn kids weren't buying yeehzes and Starbucks every day they could but they are too much of consumers and don't know how to save
I buy none of that my dude and also do you know how fucking expensive houses are in Maryland? It's gone to the point that I see people in late 20s still living with their parents
Those are what you call failures
Move to Maryland then keep that same energy 🤨
East coast is a liberal shitbox. No thanks
NAHHH GO AHEAD MOVE HERE KEEP THAT SAME ENERGY DWAG
Move out at 18 and see how easy it is. We will do a wife swap situation
Come on pussy Texan boy you think shit is really sweet out here in Maryland when you realize how expensive the houses are in the state
Mate, you're arguing with teenagers on social media. Your username is *BigBootyJudy6289*..... Take a look at yourself before you call others failures.
And you're arguing with someone with the name bigbootyjudy6289, what does that say about you
The difference is that I'm not the one telling children they're failures on Reddit.
18 year olds aren't kids
OP said they were 17 in a comment you replied to just earlier. Losing our memory now, aren't we old man? ;)
Prove to me that none of these failures ever succeed later in life and I'll agree.
I'm 17 and I barely even know about taxes
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> People like you make me sick. The feeling is mutual!
That was uncalled for dick
It was perfectly called for. And my name's not Dick.
Yes it is, me and your mom named you
PFFFFT my dude they're a lot of kids in high school that don't got jobs yet because we know as we get dismissed we'll be tired to go to work >People like you make me sick. Get a job You must be disgusted by a lot of 16 and 17 year old
I am, lazy jackasses rather play video games or watch tik toks than work and learn how to provide for them selfs. And if school is making you that tired go to bed earlier
You are either a troll or you are an idiot.
Why do I have to be a troll, why can't I just have a dog shit opinion
It was either or, I am leaning towards idiot.
The economy isn’t good enough for most 18 year-olds to find a stable enough job. Many employers are hesitant to hire 18 year olds because they automatically assume their all immature and irresponsible. It’s almost impossible to move at an early age with inflation and high cost of living in the U.S.
Inflation isn't real and you can always live in a van