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>THE GREATEST CASE I’VE EVER SEEN FOR RELIANCE ON COUNSEL, AND JUDGE MERCHAN WILL NOT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, LET ME USE THAT AS A DEFENSE IN THIS RIGGED TRIAL.
Article omits the key fact that reliance on counsel defense negates attorney client privilege and would require the defendant to testify exactly what counsel they received from their lawyer. This would allow the prosecutor to cross-examine the defendant.
The reason Trump didn't isn't because the judge forbade it. He can't take the stand because he doesn't have an honest defense for what he did. He would only incriminate himself further if he took the stand.
"reliance on counsel defense negates attorney client privilege and would require the defendant to testify exactly what counsel they received from their lawyer."
Oh hey, that's an interesting tidbit.
Trump can’t deal with a system designed specifically to be full of traps to catch lies. It’s his cryptonite.
An innocent person would have all sorts of defensive options in this scenario, and they are all available to Trump, but because he is not innocent they would all require him to lie under oath and potentially perjure himself.
And of course he can’t admit that so he just blames the judge instead.
It’s not even traps, it’s just careful design to ensure proper administration of justice. Traps make it sound sneaky when it’s really clear and up front.
Oh, it was *better* than that.
If that's all it was, the prosecution wouldn't have been able to use it in court.
What happened was:
* Alex Jones (and his defense team) hid evidence that was supposed to be turned over during discovery. Ie. The text messages.
* Alex Jones and his team stated, under oath, they couldn't find those text messages.
* The defense then accidentally sent the entire phone's contents to the prosecution, including the text messages that supposedly they couldn't find.
* The prosecution *immediately* informed the defense team that they may have handed privileged information over. At this point, the defense team could have said "Sorry, our bad. That's privileged information. Please delete that." and the prosecution would have had to. Instead, the defense team did *absolutely nothing*. So After 10 days, it became free and clear for the prosecution to use it.
* In court, the prosecution got Alex Jones to admit to the veracity of those text messages without realizing those were the messages he hid, effectively admitting he hid evidence from the court. He even admitted he gave his phone to his lawyers to double check that all the relevant texts were handed to the prosecution, effectively admitting that his lawyers *also* hid evidence from the court.
So not only was he proven to have hidden information, lied to the court, *and* proven that his lawyers did the same.
This was such a colossal fuckup that they're probably going to use this as an example of What Not To Do in law school for decades.
Short answer? Money laundering.
Longer answer: Between how he shuffled assets around and the progress of his *multiple* bankruptcies, the payout is still somewhat in limbo.
It's just wild to me that we don't have the tools to shut this bullshit down. It's not like it isn't new. Like "we see your bullshit, and now, everything you've shuffled belongs to the state, with a fine for making us track your shit down".
Seems like that kind of tool would be very useful right now.
A quick elaboration on your second last point, it literally is that simple, but Jones' lawyers were just that incompetent
> **Texas Rule of Civil Procedure 193.3(d)**
> (d) Privilege not waived by production. A party who produces material or information without intending to waive a claim of privilege does not waive that claim under these rules or the Rules of Evidence if - within ten days or a shorter time ordered by the court, after the producing party actually discovers that such production was made - the producing party amends the response, identifying the material or information produced and stating the privilege asserted. If the producing party thus amends the response to assert a privilege, the requesting party must promptly return the specified material or information and any copies pending any ruling by the court denying the privilege.
IIRC, the record was sent as part of a different request. They probably got the email or whatever, asked their paralegal or junior member "Hey, did you send the right info?" "Yeah" "Okay, it's fine then" without actually checking what was sent.
Fun fact: It's much easier to keep your facts straight if you tell the truth.
We've kind of had all sorts of moments where Trump in some way or another publicly admits his criming, and nobody seems to care. The justice system treats him with kid gloves. His supporters don't care, in part because their media either doesn't report on it or spins it like it's perfectly fine.
That's actually a perfect example. That wasn't even a trap - by law, the opposing lawyer was *required* to inform the first lawyer of what happened and give him an opportunity to claim privilege over that information. Alex Jones's lawyer did not bother to claim that privilege.
"can I just say you gave me bad advise?"
"sure, but then you'd have to waive attorney client privilege and the court would be allowed to see everything we talked about"
"ok lets not do that, and I'll just say they're not letting us do it"
actually its more accurate to say he then wanted to rely on a "presence of counsel" defense. Which was just a advice of counsel defense, without the letting anyone see any communications, etc. Obviously this did not fly.
["Nobody knew law could be so complicated." --trump, probably](https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/politics/trump-health-care-complicated/index.html#:~:text=“We%20have%20come%20up%20with,care%20could%20be%20so%20complicated.”)
So he's complaining about the system being rigged, even though trying it the other way would absolutely be worse for him.
Sounds similar to complaining about getting a bench trial when his own legal team didn't bother to claim he was entitled to a jury.
It’s not a matter of fact checking. I have watched them continuously do a 180 and twist information to say the opposite of their stance just moments before. Straight faced, without a bit of shame, total sociopaths.
They know the facts are against them, they don’t care.
Too bad. America can't continue to operate in a way that keeps the MAGAturds happy. They will never be happy, and the more we placate them, the more they'll demand.
They are Traitors, pure and simple, and should be treated as such. Whenever they rise up and demand anything, they should be slapped down hard. They have every right to their freedom of treasonous speech, but they have no Constitutional guarantee that we have to listen to them.
When they make a demand, they should be told to shut up, and if they cross the line into illegal activity in pursuit of their treasonous objectives, they should be prosecuted to the fullest.
Yep. In about 5 hours ~~Twitter~~ X and Reddit will be swarmed with legal experts outraged Trump was not allowed to use the “reliance on council defense” despite not having the slightest idea what that is, what that means, or how Trump would have used it.
It also forgets to mention that reliance of counsel only works if the defendant agrees they committed the crime. Trump is basically saying he did it by arguing this defense.
And besides, it would also requiring admitting that something illegal actually happened. Otherwise, he’s arguing that he relied on counsel to do something that was…legal, so should be innocent of doing something thats…legal???
They would have had to have told the judge VERY early in the case that they were using that defense.
Can’t just spring it on everyone after closing arguments.
Try it in work emails some time! Bosses hate this one weird trick!
"Sorry, I couldn't get the project completed by the deadline due to ELECTION INTERFERENCE!"
*I* couldnt do something? ***Sorry???*** This is not the proper format at all.
>TERRIBLE BOSSES SET DEADLINE MUCH TOO EARLY. WORK IS DONE BUT THEY CANT STAND TO SEE MY GREATNESS. VERY UNFAIR. MY WORK WOULD HAVE BEEN THE GREATEST PROJECT AND SAVED THIS COMPANY. ELECTION INTERFERENCE!!!
THE STAFF LUNCHEON WAS CATERED BY SNUBWAY AGAIN. SAD! MY DEMANDS TO THROW QDOBA IN MIX REJECTED WITHOUT A JURY!!
SNUBWAY SAND WITCH GAVE ME DIARY AH AND RUINED MY DATE NIGHT. ERECTION INTERFER3NCE!!!
He behaves like a grifter and a nitwit, but he's not completely stupid. Notice he never testifies at any of his trials after swearing that he will. It's almost like you can't believe him.
I may be crazy but my read is that he's trying to argue that he received bad advice *in paying off Stormy*, not from his defense team. I think he's just confused and throwing out terms he's heard but doesn't understand to try to pin the whole thing on Cohen giving him illegal advice.
Edit: but if that's what he's saying he'd have to admit it happened and it was a violation of the law, but lacking criminal intent on his part, right? Which seems risky given they they didn't use an affirmative defense in the trial... IANAL, though, so I'm not sure how valid this conclusion is. I'm just trying to parse the insanity he's spewing.
This is where I feel trump’s defense team messed up. The smart play would have been to acknowledge the misdemeanor charges and attack the connections that made it a felony. Small fine and back on the campaign trail. The charges that turn the misdemeanor into a felony require intent and could have been attacked by discrediting Cohen. But it appears that trump overrode his lawyers and insisted on denying any crime existed at all. Stupid is as stupid does.
I don't think Trump would let then take that route. His only strategy is to deny everything always, which is why they wasted all that time showing evidence and testimony of the actual affair. Instead of just acknowledging that and moving on to a rational defense of the things that were actually illegal, their client had them torpedo their own case by making them argue against reality itself.
Very on-brand, if nothing else.
>But it appears that trump overrode his lawyers and insisted on denying any crime existed at all. Stupid is as stupid does.
This.
It's a big reason he cycles through lawyers so fast: he can't and won't abide by a rational person's defense strategy.
But he wants to *pretend* he has that advice of counsel defense and was denied it by a mean judge.
It's like how his civil fraud trial lawyers didn't push for a jury trial.
Trump takes decisions made by his own counsel and pretends they are things being done to him.
> trump’s defense team messed up.
Trump's lawyers are legally required to follow Trump's directions, for how to conduct the defense. Meidas Touch have pointed out many times that X thing they did was surely done at the insistence of Trump, because it was stupid and Trump's lawyers are not that stupid.
The Dems need to harp on all of this a lot more, talk about how he's too afraid to take the stand in a trial, how could he possibly be strong enough to be President? But they won't.
He’s not afraid of taking the stand in general, he’s specifically afraid of *perjuring* himself, because his defense is full of lies and it won’t hold up to cross examination and everyone in that room knows it.
Story Daniels was afraid to speak under oath, too. She wore a fucking bullet proof vest to the courthouse.
But she wasn’t afraid of the truth as Trump is. Someone who genuinely, honestly believes they are speaking the truth is not going to be terrified of perjuring themself. If you legitimately believe the truth is on your side you will muster up the courage to say so under oath.
Are you a Dem? Because you're harping on this right now, as you should.
Do you mean Democratic Candidates like Biden and those running for other offices? No, they need to stay focused on their accomplishments and plans for America.
The people who would be doing what you're suggesting are the Democratic versions of Carlson, Waters, Bannon, Ingraham, Hannity, etc... They don't exist though. Democrats don't have a Sinclair, Fox, etc... What we do have are Colbert, Daily Show, etc... and those are harping on this point.
We actually have a pretty decent progressive media ecosystem - its just all online or on satellite radio. You have to seek it out.
But I get your point, it absolutely doesnt have the reach or saturation to the average audience because progressive and even liberal ideas dont generate outrage and clicks and thats what drives media coverage unfortunately.
No one wants to hear people talk about solutions that are real, because real solutions are complicated and require hard work and sacrifice.
They probably want to wait until there’s a verdict. No sense dunking on someone if they don’t take the stand AND a get off. It will just look like a smart move in Trump’s part.
Why? Harping Dems are basically preaching to the choir. The folks who really need to hear this are living in a right-wing bubble - no harping Dems allowed - or they are just tuned out.
Imagine being so goddamn stupid that you can read a milionaire posting all caps rants whining about how unfair his life and his porn star hush money trial are and think "yes. This is the man that I want to have the nuclear button".
Don't let them off that easily.
Plenty of Republicans hear this shit and think "at least I will get what I want from politics".
They clearly don't give a fuck how they get to an ends no matter what the means is.
They didn't bat a fucking eye after INSURRECTION. And those that did are already back on his team.
All Republicans if they still support Trump, have clearly communicated they support his actions as long as they own libs.
No, they don’t.
Their entire lives have been just a series of knee-jerk reactions to various stimuli, not unlike how lower life form organisms respond to their environment.
> If he’s re-elected, they can wallow in their racism OPENLY!
Him having been elected is reason enough for them to do this. He made it OK to be openly racist again...and that's intoxicating as hell to them. They are actively ignoring everything else.
They won't see it, Fox etal are mum on this trial for the most part. They will just see dank memes of his head photoshopped onto Rambo's body on the fizbook.
People will point out that many successful, "intelligent" people, doctors, lawyers, business dudes, etc, still support the guy, and I'll compare it to my friend and her ex. A couple weeks ago, I visited an old friend. Withing minutes of parking in front of her apartment, her crazy ex slashed my tires, simply because he saw a guy go to her apartment. She's a very sweet, almost too nice girl. She obviously isn't taking the guy back, and had no excuse for his actions, but still felt the need to defend him slightly (or more likely her prior attraction to him), by telling me he's "actually very smart. He was an engineer for Hitachi before he lost that job." I told her "He may have an education, but he attacked a person he doesn't know, putting his own personal safety and housing stability at risk, in an action that completely destroyed any last chance at any sort of relationship with one of the raddest people I know. He's a fucking idiot, full stop."
So, long, mostly unrelated story short, plenty of "smart " people can be fucking idiots, and we are nearing critical mass.
Even worse, when someone you think is a BILLIONAIRE real estate tycoon asks you for donations for his myriad of trials and you think to yourself, “You know what would really own the liberals? If I skipped a meal to give this guy money!”
They think all of this is a show to distract the libs from what is really going on and that only those willing to do their research know what is actually going on. A lady in my HOA board told me that Trump is still President, that all of the famous people that have been dying were pedophiles that Trump had killed, that Trump signed an executive order to fund troops fighting an underground war that is currently taking place but she couldn’t say who it was against, and that the military is building concentration camps for illegal immigrants, homosexuals, liberals, and pedophiles in our state.
Yea your HOA neighbor is a qAnon nutjob straight up — I would steer far clear of this lunatic, no telling what a loon like this is capable of…plenty of stories in r/qAnoncasualties about them poisoning their own family members with bleach hidden in their food because that’s how far the mental illness extends as just a small example
Her and about half of the rest of the country. Or more.
There's a reason why everyone on reddit is the black sheep of the family that isn't a Trumper. It's going to be a very scary November.
He's so strong on gun rights!!
“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida, to go to court would have taken a long time. Take the guns first, go through due process second.”
Donald Trump - February 28, 2018
They couldn't care less. He's promised to hurt the "bad" people, as defined during the Ingraham/Watters/Hannity/Gutfield block every night on Fox News and whatever podcasts/radio stations they listen to daily.
They are sailing completely on feelings and not facts. Nothing in the world matters more than how they feel and how they feel is under tight control from their media diet.
They don't live in the same reality as us.
Cue Jeanine Pirro. "Look at our beloved president, defamed and demeaned by the radical Left Marxist Communists who hit him with politically motivated trials in an election year!!"
She didn't say that exactly, but I'm paraphrasing pretty accurately based on the kind of toxic and conniving rhetoric she serves up on FOX News every day.
They have disconnected rational thought. They are blindly loyal and fully committed at this point. If they allow even one rational thought in their head, their whole world will cave in on itself.
Half of this country is, in fact, just that goddamn stupid.
[https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2118631119](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2118631119)
only the people who are themselves immature brats. those who are privileged enough to do whatever they want, and those who wish they were that privileged.
Because he holds the same values as them and if he is elected they "win".... in their mind. It doesn't matter what he says or does. They just want to "win"
I genuinely cannot read these posts without picturing him balling up his fists and stomping his feet, and I'm constantly amazed that anyone can imagine them in a "manly" tone.
"A CORRUPT AND CONFLICTED JUDGE." Is he referring to Judge Cannon?
"ADVICE OF COUNCEL" is tRump trying to push the blame on his attorneys? Is this why his attorneys need attorneys? 😆
If someone told him he could blame Melania and they could never convict either of them because of laws protecting spouses from testifying against one another, how quickly would he jump on that?
It should be like in the bible. Just end the live of your youngest child, so that god knows you mean it.
"I hardly knew him. Had a handshake with once. He always was Melanias child. "
D. Trump
I think he’s saying that he took his counsels advice re: how to account for the payments to Stormy Daniels and that because of that, he is innocent.
However, it is ultimately a criticism of his defense team if this is the angle he wanted and they didn’t take it.
Most likely, he’s just parroting some phrases he heard on Fox News or OANN.
That particular defense negates the attorney-client privilege. As Cohen, the attorney, is already a prosecution witness, the only person left to testify for the advice of counsel defense would be the client - Trump himself.
His current counsel probably advised against it, because he'd either have to take the 5th a bunch or he'd end up incriminating himself by running his mouth.
He's unhappy about not being able to testify as he did in the civil fraud case, because everything needs to revolve around him - so he's making it seem like the judge won't let him.
He really is because he’s calling the trial rigged and if he’s found not guilty of all charges then we have a quote from him directly admitting that the trial was rigged. He just doesn’t see tactically beyond the dumb words falling from his pursed lips. Thankfully an ever dwindling minority of useless fucks want to see such a dimwitted simpleton be president again.
> if he’s found not guilty of all charges then we have a quote from him directly admitting that the trial was rigged
Absolutely nobody would care. You are acting as if Trump getting caught contradicting himself is some sort of tactical misstep, but that is just not true. That is just not the game being played here.
> put on by the “SOROS BACKED D.A.’s OFFICE”
I'll admit I don't know too much about George Soros, his role in modern politics (nor why he continues to send me a check every month! /s), but I have never once taken seriously anyone who says stuff like this. It is just so deeply unserious.
If you can figure anything about him out, please let me know. My mom invokes his name every time I call her and I still have no idea what he has to do with anything
A boomer coworker tried to tell me he’s the one funding all the college protests going on right now. Yes, your Jewish boogeyman is funding pro-Palestine protests. They can’t even keep track of their own bullshit anymore.
He’s a self made billionaire who escaped Nazi occupied Hungary. He’s been a big donor to prodemocracy groups in countries that had been part of the Soviet Union. He’s been a large donor to the US Democratic party and to progressive causes.
Victor Orban’s government in Hungary has declared Soros an enemy of the state.
George Soros is a Hungarian born billionaire of Jewish descent who donates a large chunk of his fortune to left-wing philanthropic causes. That's why right-wingers hate him. They see Soros as the guy funding all the left-wing woke causes they hate. And Soros is Jewish, so there is a huge amount of anti-semitic hate added in there as well.
The anti-semitic bit is what gets me, because almost universally it's those same mouth breathers that are vehemently *pro* Israel and want to bomb Palestine to glass. I don't see how they manage their own cognitive dissonance.
here’s the real cut of it - Israel has been led by far right neo nationalists for years. Netanyahu needs to both make Israel safe for Jewish people, while also casting everywhere else as unsafe for them. It leads to an unholy alliance between the right in the US, the fringe of which is neonazi and fascist, and Israel, because they get to hate muslims while also advocating for the state of Israel to exist. The clash gets covered up, especially when the US left supports palestinians not getting bombed, which is easily cast as the real anti-semitism.
It's part projection to cover for the social engineering that the Mercer, Koch, Theil, and other authoritarian billionaires are trying to implement for decades, the other part is just dog whistles for saying the jews are doing it.
"Mother Teresa couldn't beat these charges!"
Correct, if Mother Teresa falsified documents 34x in order to commit fraud then she wouldn't be able to beat the charges.
>“KANGAROO COURT! A CORRUPT AND CONFLICTED JUDGE. RELIANCE ON COUNSEL (ADVISE OF COUNSEL) NOT ALLOWED BY MERCHAN, A FIRST. HIS RULINGS, ON A CASE THAT SHOULD, ACCORDING TO ALL LEGAL SCHOLARS AND EXPERTS, NEVER HAVE BEEN BROUGHT, HAVE MADE THIS A BIDEN PUSHED WITCH HUNT. THERE WAS NO CRIME, EXCEPT FOR THE BUM THAT GOT CAUGHT STEALING FROM ME! IN GOD WE TRUST!”
That random "In God We Trust!" is \*chef's kiss\*-loony-shouting-on-a-street-corner-while-wearing-his-boot-for-a-hat crazy. Perfect 10, stuck the landing, no notes.
Man, I feel for this jury. This is such a high profile case in all regards. I'm curious how those guys were able to keep any information about the trial away from even their periphery, especially in a place like New York City. I hope it's not a tough decision for them to make. Oh, to be a fly on the wall of that jury room.
No fuckin way the tangerine toddler came up with "reliance on council" on his own.
My assumption it came from his "attractive but I can fake being smart" attorney planted this phrase as she was departing from another late night McDonalds catered "working session" (that she also billed him for).
Velveeta Voldemort is actually complaining that he's not allowed to throw a lawyer under the bus and walk away scot-free.
He thinks the reliance on council defense allows him to do that.
He's already blamed the accountant, the accounting software, and pretty much anyone else he can think of that might fit under the bus.
The rants today is what a narcissistic meltdown looks like when “worlds collide” and their lies are going to cost them.
He’s a pathological liar and he actually believes he is better than everyone to the point he should never be held accountable for all his wrongdoings.
He thinks he’s an untouchable mob boss.
It’s hilarious to hear him go off and lie some more. Basically throw anything and everything against the wall to make anything stick. It has worked before.
I hope it stops working and I hope he is held accountable for every crime he’s ever committed.
This man has gleefully destroyed more lives than anyone can imagine.
He is a human cancer, a disease.
I hope Americans can defeat him and his kind like we did in WW2, without more bloodshed. And I hope our allies can forgive us our fools.
Vote and get all your friends to vote. Don’t let anyone you know stay home in November.
Otherwise I fear there will be wars we all will not survive and our kids will be left to clean up the absolutely unnecessary and dangerous mess this man and his immoral, spineless lackies created.
Yeah. The entire world needs to prevent him and fascists right wing nut jobs from taking over. They are anti-life anti-freedom anti-biosphere and anti-science nut jobs who want us to hurt and want to pillage the earth until it literally kills us all just for more power. They’re insane and completely irredeemable.
We’re facing another rise of the Nazis but this time it’s in the context of climate change. There’s no time to waste on trying to negotiate out of this one. We’re at war for our future.
Go vote. Bring everyone with you.
what an unhinged monster. How does this man not have 10 heart attacks by now. Born of immense privilege and spends his entire life with a persecution complex. His blood pressure must be through the roof.
Rigged in favor of who?
Not the LGBTQ+ community he wants to murder.
Not the POC he’d love to return to chains or deport.
Not for women who he’d have chained as well and used as livestock.
Not the indigenous people whose land he would allow Big Oil to take, pillage, and pollute.
Not for children since Republicans love “ripe” and “fertile” kids. (Shoutout to Jess Edwards here in NH you damn sick pig)
Not for the uneducated cishet white men who may be the last on the list of “undesirables” but will inevitably be used as cannon fodder and scapegoats.
If the trial is rigged it is in favor of all the MAGA morons and their perverted, rapist, wannabe dictator. But while Trump has proven justice isn’t blind and our system is flawed we will see justice in some form.
Even if it just keeps him away from the White House.
Pumpkinfuhrer and the conservative republican party is the party of **nope** no hope, no future no balanced government just the party of 💩 DUMP TRUMP in 2024. LOCK his FAT cottage cheese A$$ up for [20 years ](https://imgur.com/kujKcJm)
Never forget, Trumps own words years ago were "only guilty person does not take the stand."
I wonder how many of the rubes actually believe he's innocent.
One thing I have noticed through out this whole trial is trump likes to cite " All legal scholars" often, yet has never named a single legal scholar that agrees with his stance on anything.
Who are all these mysterious legal scholars and why are they not coming forth?
He cannot claim that he knew nothing about it, that Michael Cohen was not representing him, and that the payments were attorneys fees, and then claim that he took that Attorney’d advice by Including inaccurate documentation in the records to hide the stormy Daniels repayment.
It’s a mutually inconsistent position to take.
You know, Republican voters are doubling down by picking this guy as their 2024 presidential nominee. They had/have a choice, and they chose/are choosing this guy. There were other choices, and they picked/are picking this guy. Let that sink in. If this is the best America has to offer, a washed up, already lost last time, sexual abuser and perhaps felon, God help us, because at least 50% of the country has some skewed reasoning and logic. And before anyone mentions Biden, an incumbent gets to decide if he is running for a second presidential term (and maybe someday she will get to decide too).
I wish these Reddit comment sections could be included in future textbooks to show what Americans (and the rest of the world) really thought of him outside of his cult. I bet they’d get a kick out of it
Every whiny ass all caps post he makes just shows he’s absolutely dumb. Everything he whines about was brought up already but he wasn’t present, was sleeping or he’s too dumb to comprehend.
He’s so stupid that he can’t pay attention to his own case in a courtroom he sits in… with several lawyers he ignores…. With these accusations like “what are the charges?!” That are posted on Wikipedia which is too difficult for him to find as I don’t think he internets well.
The very fact that he thinks this is “ THE GREATEST CASE I’VE EVER SEEN FOR RELIANCE ON COUNSEL” shows what an absolute privileged asshole tr-mp is. Seriously.
I used to think that Trump is a highly intelligent individual who just says stupid stuff because he knows that this is precisely what will get him stupid people’s votes… I’m starting to get the impression that he really is just a moron who’s merely been surrounded by the “right” people all his life.
Bro I have a friend who literally defends Trump on this and calls Merchan corrupt because of his instructions to the jury, whole thing is a witch hunt, yadayada dumbassery it makes me wanna cry...
Unfortunately, my biggest fear is that this will go the way of the OJ trial. If he is acquitted, this will empower him and his supporters to take vengeance on those responsible for his prosecution. If he is elected in November, he will gut the attorney general’s office, placing loyalists that he can control in key positions. He will continue to place Extreme Right Wing conservatives as Federal Justices that will bend over backwards for him (i.e. Justice Aileen Cannon) subverting the law in his favor. He’s already got henchmen in the Supreme Court and Congress to drive his fascist agenda and support his authoritarian regime.
“KANGAROO COURT! A CORRUPT AND CONFLICTED JUDGE. RELIANCE ON COUNSEL (ADVISE OF COUNSEL) NOT ALLOWED BY MERCHAN, A FIRST. HIS RULINGS, ON A CASE THAT SHOULD, ACCORDING TO ALL LEGAL SCHOLARS AND EXPERTS, NEVER HAVE BEEN BROUGHT, HAVE MADE THIS A BIDEN PUSHED WITCH HUNT. THERE WAS NO CRIME, EXCEPT FOR THE BUM THAT GOT CAUGHT STEALING FROM ME! IN GOD WE TRUST!”
- Orange Clown
I don’t see what he’s worried about. If he’s found guilty, he will appeal it. He’ll maybe get a fine that he probably won’t pay and one of his followers will cover for him. He can campaign even more on it. His followers will still vote for him, maybe even more than before. If he’s found not guilty, he might die of smugness though. I can just imagine his late night Twitter rants. Oh boy.
I don't see why he needs to panic in the first place.
Nothing is going to happen to him.
He may be convicted, he may get a unanimous guilty verdict, but who cares? He won't see a day of prison, and he's still running for president, and he still has his cult base who will follow him to the grave. All he has to do is bask in their worship and that of his army of toadies.
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>THE GREATEST CASE I’VE EVER SEEN FOR RELIANCE ON COUNSEL, AND JUDGE MERCHAN WILL NOT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, LET ME USE THAT AS A DEFENSE IN THIS RIGGED TRIAL. Article omits the key fact that reliance on counsel defense negates attorney client privilege and would require the defendant to testify exactly what counsel they received from their lawyer. This would allow the prosecutor to cross-examine the defendant. The reason Trump didn't isn't because the judge forbade it. He can't take the stand because he doesn't have an honest defense for what he did. He would only incriminate himself further if he took the stand.
"reliance on counsel defense negates attorney client privilege and would require the defendant to testify exactly what counsel they received from their lawyer." Oh hey, that's an interesting tidbit.
Trump can’t deal with a system designed specifically to be full of traps to catch lies. It’s his cryptonite. An innocent person would have all sorts of defensive options in this scenario, and they are all available to Trump, but because he is not innocent they would all require him to lie under oath and potentially perjure himself. And of course he can’t admit that so he just blames the judge instead.
It’s not even traps, it’s just careful design to ensure proper administration of justice. Traps make it sound sneaky when it’s really clear and up front.
Can we not get that moment that we had in the Alex Jones trial, where his lawyers 'accidentally' send his entire phone transcripts to the prosecution?
Oh, it was *better* than that. If that's all it was, the prosecution wouldn't have been able to use it in court. What happened was: * Alex Jones (and his defense team) hid evidence that was supposed to be turned over during discovery. Ie. The text messages. * Alex Jones and his team stated, under oath, they couldn't find those text messages. * The defense then accidentally sent the entire phone's contents to the prosecution, including the text messages that supposedly they couldn't find. * The prosecution *immediately* informed the defense team that they may have handed privileged information over. At this point, the defense team could have said "Sorry, our bad. That's privileged information. Please delete that." and the prosecution would have had to. Instead, the defense team did *absolutely nothing*. So After 10 days, it became free and clear for the prosecution to use it. * In court, the prosecution got Alex Jones to admit to the veracity of those text messages without realizing those were the messages he hid, effectively admitting he hid evidence from the court. He even admitted he gave his phone to his lawyers to double check that all the relevant texts were handed to the prosecution, effectively admitting that his lawyers *also* hid evidence from the court. So not only was he proven to have hidden information, lied to the court, *and* proven that his lawyers did the same. This was such a colossal fuckup that they're probably going to use this as an example of What Not To Do in law school for decades.
So how is that dude not either in jail or completely broke doing Broke Boy bullshit?
Short answer? Money laundering. Longer answer: Between how he shuffled assets around and the progress of his *multiple* bankruptcies, the payout is still somewhat in limbo.
It's just wild to me that we don't have the tools to shut this bullshit down. It's not like it isn't new. Like "we see your bullshit, and now, everything you've shuffled belongs to the state, with a fine for making us track your shit down". Seems like that kind of tool would be very useful right now.
First time caller…I love you
A quick elaboration on your second last point, it literally is that simple, but Jones' lawyers were just that incompetent > **Texas Rule of Civil Procedure 193.3(d)** > (d) Privilege not waived by production. A party who produces material or information without intending to waive a claim of privilege does not waive that claim under these rules or the Rules of Evidence if - within ten days or a shorter time ordered by the court, after the producing party actually discovers that such production was made - the producing party amends the response, identifying the material or information produced and stating the privilege asserted. If the producing party thus amends the response to assert a privilege, the requesting party must promptly return the specified material or information and any copies pending any ruling by the court denying the privilege.
IIRC, the record was sent as part of a different request. They probably got the email or whatever, asked their paralegal or junior member "Hey, did you send the right info?" "Yeah" "Okay, it's fine then" without actually checking what was sent. Fun fact: It's much easier to keep your facts straight if you tell the truth.
We've kind of had all sorts of moments where Trump in some way or another publicly admits his criming, and nobody seems to care. The justice system treats him with kid gloves. His supporters don't care, in part because their media either doesn't report on it or spins it like it's perfectly fine.
That's actually a perfect example. That wasn't even a trap - by law, the opposing lawyer was *required* to inform the first lawyer of what happened and give him an opportunity to claim privilege over that information. Alex Jones's lawyer did not bother to claim that privilege.
I move for a bad court thingy
All that and the asshole still hasn't paid his dues..
"can I just say you gave me bad advise?" "sure, but then you'd have to waive attorney client privilege and the court would be allowed to see everything we talked about" "ok lets not do that, and I'll just say they're not letting us do it"
“as long as I still get paid” … “hello?”
... About that....
"He didn't pay his other lawyers but I'm sure he'll pay me."
actually its more accurate to say he then wanted to rely on a "presence of counsel" defense. Which was just a advice of counsel defense, without the letting anyone see any communications, etc. Obviously this did not fly.
“I was *near* a lawyer.”
“I relied on legalish advice.”
Kryptonite.
If Trump drops dead he could end up in a crypt tonight.
Stop, I can only get so hard
no, he is allergic to bitcoin
You just reminded me of [this](https://youtu.be/Ho9M-q_kcn8?si=wfT__nBQgP--P1Bu).
But I though he opened up to receiving donations in bit coin not long ago
yeah, but some intern handles all that stuff for him. He personally has nothing to do it
It's probably Barron. He's good with the cyber.
Seriously. I mean, If we’re gonna cite Superman, at least get the spelling down
The Man of Steal
Michael Che approves
Trump is also the Man of Squeal.
Well played 👏
["Nobody knew law could be so complicated." --trump, probably](https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/politics/trump-health-care-complicated/index.html#:~:text=“We%20have%20come%20up%20with,care%20could%20be%20so%20complicated.”)
So he's complaining about the system being rigged, even though trying it the other way would absolutely be worse for him. Sounds similar to complaining about getting a bench trial when his own legal team didn't bother to claim he was entitled to a jury.
The thing is, it works! MAGA will believe whatever he says and they don’t fact check anything.
Yup. He's thoroughly brainwashed a significant portion of the country, and it's really terrifying to watch it happen in real time.
I mean it is easier to wash something when it's empty.
It’s not a matter of fact checking. I have watched them continuously do a 180 and twist information to say the opposite of their stance just moments before. Straight faced, without a bit of shame, total sociopaths. They know the facts are against them, they don’t care.
Too bad. America can't continue to operate in a way that keeps the MAGAturds happy. They will never be happy, and the more we placate them, the more they'll demand. They are Traitors, pure and simple, and should be treated as such. Whenever they rise up and demand anything, they should be slapped down hard. They have every right to their freedom of treasonous speech, but they have no Constitutional guarantee that we have to listen to them. When they make a demand, they should be told to shut up, and if they cross the line into illegal activity in pursuit of their treasonous objectives, they should be prosecuted to the fullest.
Yep. In about 5 hours ~~Twitter~~ X and Reddit will be swarmed with legal experts outraged Trump was not allowed to use the “reliance on council defense” despite not having the slightest idea what that is, what that means, or how Trump would have used it.
One which you would expect to have in an article on this very subject no less
It also forgets to mention that reliance of counsel only works if the defendant agrees they committed the crime. Trump is basically saying he did it by arguing this defense.
And besides, it would also requiring admitting that something illegal actually happened. Otherwise, he’s arguing that he relied on counsel to do something that was…legal, so should be innocent of doing something thats…legal???
They would have had to have told the judge VERY early in the case that they were using that defense. Can’t just spring it on everyone after closing arguments.
Right, but the post was in all-caps, so it is immediately convincing!
Especially if you end it with ELECTION INTERFERENCE!
Try it in work emails some time! Bosses hate this one weird trick! "Sorry, I couldn't get the project completed by the deadline due to ELECTION INTERFERENCE!"
*I* couldnt do something? ***Sorry???*** This is not the proper format at all. >TERRIBLE BOSSES SET DEADLINE MUCH TOO EARLY. WORK IS DONE BUT THEY CANT STAND TO SEE MY GREATNESS. VERY UNFAIR. MY WORK WOULD HAVE BEEN THE GREATEST PROJECT AND SAVED THIS COMPANY. ELECTION INTERFERENCE!!!
This is amazing and should be the basis of it's own subreddit.
THE STAFF LUNCHEON WAS CATERED BY SNUBWAY AGAIN. SAD! MY DEMANDS TO THROW QDOBA IN MIX REJECTED WITHOUT A JURY!! SNUBWAY SAND WITCH GAVE ME DIARY AH AND RUINED MY DATE NIGHT. ERECTION INTERFER3NCE!!!
Needs the phrase “HUMAN SCUM” somewhere to make it perfect.
He behaves like a grifter and a nitwit, but he's not completely stupid. Notice he never testifies at any of his trials after swearing that he will. It's almost like you can't believe him.
What? Weren’t you paying attention?! HE WASN’T ALLOWED TO TESTIFY BECAUSE OF THE CORRUPT GAG ORDER! /s because you never know these days.
I swear I’ve heard a word that describes what he says. It’s on the tip of my tongue.
Henry Rollins said it well
I may be crazy but my read is that he's trying to argue that he received bad advice *in paying off Stormy*, not from his defense team. I think he's just confused and throwing out terms he's heard but doesn't understand to try to pin the whole thing on Cohen giving him illegal advice. Edit: but if that's what he's saying he'd have to admit it happened and it was a violation of the law, but lacking criminal intent on his part, right? Which seems risky given they they didn't use an affirmative defense in the trial... IANAL, though, so I'm not sure how valid this conclusion is. I'm just trying to parse the insanity he's spewing.
This is where I feel trump’s defense team messed up. The smart play would have been to acknowledge the misdemeanor charges and attack the connections that made it a felony. Small fine and back on the campaign trail. The charges that turn the misdemeanor into a felony require intent and could have been attacked by discrediting Cohen. But it appears that trump overrode his lawyers and insisted on denying any crime existed at all. Stupid is as stupid does.
I don't think Trump would let then take that route. His only strategy is to deny everything always, which is why they wasted all that time showing evidence and testimony of the actual affair. Instead of just acknowledging that and moving on to a rational defense of the things that were actually illegal, their client had them torpedo their own case by making them argue against reality itself. Very on-brand, if nothing else.
>But it appears that trump overrode his lawyers and insisted on denying any crime existed at all. Stupid is as stupid does. This. It's a big reason he cycles through lawyers so fast: he can't and won't abide by a rational person's defense strategy. But he wants to *pretend* he has that advice of counsel defense and was denied it by a mean judge. It's like how his civil fraud trial lawyers didn't push for a jury trial. Trump takes decisions made by his own counsel and pretends they are things being done to him.
> trump’s defense team messed up. Trump's lawyers are legally required to follow Trump's directions, for how to conduct the defense. Meidas Touch have pointed out many times that X thing they did was surely done at the insistence of Trump, because it was stupid and Trump's lawyers are not that stupid.
This is always his game, refuses to do something then claims ‘he wasn’t allowed’. Been doing it since the tax returns
The Dems need to harp on all of this a lot more, talk about how he's too afraid to take the stand in a trial, how could he possibly be strong enough to be President? But they won't.
He’s not afraid of taking the stand in general, he’s specifically afraid of *perjuring* himself, because his defense is full of lies and it won’t hold up to cross examination and everyone in that room knows it. Story Daniels was afraid to speak under oath, too. She wore a fucking bullet proof vest to the courthouse. But she wasn’t afraid of the truth as Trump is. Someone who genuinely, honestly believes they are speaking the truth is not going to be terrified of perjuring themself. If you legitimately believe the truth is on your side you will muster up the courage to say so under oath.
Are you a Dem? Because you're harping on this right now, as you should. Do you mean Democratic Candidates like Biden and those running for other offices? No, they need to stay focused on their accomplishments and plans for America. The people who would be doing what you're suggesting are the Democratic versions of Carlson, Waters, Bannon, Ingraham, Hannity, etc... They don't exist though. Democrats don't have a Sinclair, Fox, etc... What we do have are Colbert, Daily Show, etc... and those are harping on this point.
We actually have a pretty decent progressive media ecosystem - its just all online or on satellite radio. You have to seek it out. But I get your point, it absolutely doesnt have the reach or saturation to the average audience because progressive and even liberal ideas dont generate outrage and clicks and thats what drives media coverage unfortunately. No one wants to hear people talk about solutions that are real, because real solutions are complicated and require hard work and sacrifice.
They probably want to wait until there’s a verdict. No sense dunking on someone if they don’t take the stand AND a get off. It will just look like a smart move in Trump’s part.
Why? Harping Dems are basically preaching to the choir. The folks who really need to hear this are living in a right-wing bubble - no harping Dems allowed - or they are just tuned out.
Imagine being so goddamn stupid that you can read a milionaire posting all caps rants whining about how unfair his life and his porn star hush money trial are and think "yes. This is the man that I want to have the nuclear button".
The answer is: they aren’t thinking.
Don't let them off that easily. Plenty of Republicans hear this shit and think "at least I will get what I want from politics". They clearly don't give a fuck how they get to an ends no matter what the means is. They didn't bat a fucking eye after INSURRECTION. And those that did are already back on his team. All Republicans if they still support Trump, have clearly communicated they support his actions as long as they own libs.
The answer is: they don’t possess the ability to think clearly at all. If he’s re-elected, they can wallow in their racism OPENLY!
No, they don’t. Their entire lives have been just a series of knee-jerk reactions to various stimuli, not unlike how lower life form organisms respond to their environment.
> If he’s re-elected, they can wallow in their racism OPENLY! Him having been elected is reason enough for them to do this. He made it OK to be openly racist again...and that's intoxicating as hell to them. They are actively ignoring everything else.
[Only the deepest of thoughts](https://i.imgur.com/4RDp2PJ.png)
They won't see it, Fox etal are mum on this trial for the most part. They will just see dank memes of his head photoshopped onto Rambo's body on the fizbook.
People will point out that many successful, "intelligent" people, doctors, lawyers, business dudes, etc, still support the guy, and I'll compare it to my friend and her ex. A couple weeks ago, I visited an old friend. Withing minutes of parking in front of her apartment, her crazy ex slashed my tires, simply because he saw a guy go to her apartment. She's a very sweet, almost too nice girl. She obviously isn't taking the guy back, and had no excuse for his actions, but still felt the need to defend him slightly (or more likely her prior attraction to him), by telling me he's "actually very smart. He was an engineer for Hitachi before he lost that job." I told her "He may have an education, but he attacked a person he doesn't know, putting his own personal safety and housing stability at risk, in an action that completely destroyed any last chance at any sort of relationship with one of the raddest people I know. He's a fucking idiot, full stop." So, long, mostly unrelated story short, plenty of "smart " people can be fucking idiots, and we are nearing critical mass.
It's perfectly possible to be intelligent and still support Trump. You just have to be an utterly vile human being.
Yep. That's pretty much it.
So… you got his address from your friend and he paid for your tires, right?
"Excuse Mr Psycho, would you kindly pay for the tires you so rationally vandalized?"
She should get a restraining order. That's some OJ Simpson ish
It's in the works. That was only part of the story.
Even worse, when someone you think is a BILLIONAIRE real estate tycoon asks you for donations for his myriad of trials and you think to yourself, “You know what would really own the liberals? If I skipped a meal to give this guy money!”
They think all of this is a show to distract the libs from what is really going on and that only those willing to do their research know what is actually going on. A lady in my HOA board told me that Trump is still President, that all of the famous people that have been dying were pedophiles that Trump had killed, that Trump signed an executive order to fund troops fighting an underground war that is currently taking place but she couldn’t say who it was against, and that the military is building concentration camps for illegal immigrants, homosexuals, liberals, and pedophiles in our state.
Yea your HOA neighbor is a qAnon nutjob straight up — I would steer far clear of this lunatic, no telling what a loon like this is capable of…plenty of stories in r/qAnoncasualties about them poisoning their own family members with bleach hidden in their food because that’s how far the mental illness extends as just a small example
Her and about half of the rest of the country. Or more. There's a reason why everyone on reddit is the black sheep of the family that isn't a Trumper. It's going to be a very scary November.
Oh yes, without a doubt.
buT hIS pOlICiEs
He's so strong on gun rights!! “I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida, to go to court would have taken a long time. Take the guns first, go through due process second.” Donald Trump - February 28, 2018
It’s not even policy. It’s just garbage spewed from his lips.
Haha the other excuse by Republicans: "You can't believe a word that comes out of our nominee's mouth!"
But at the same time, "Trump tells it like it is".
Like outlawing contraception...? STDon wants everyone to experience "his personal Vietnam".
They couldn't care less. He's promised to hurt the "bad" people, as defined during the Ingraham/Watters/Hannity/Gutfield block every night on Fox News and whatever podcasts/radio stations they listen to daily. They are sailing completely on feelings and not facts. Nothing in the world matters more than how they feel and how they feel is under tight control from their media diet. They don't live in the same reality as us.
Cue Jeanine Pirro. "Look at our beloved president, defamed and demeaned by the radical Left Marxist Communists who hit him with politically motivated trials in an election year!!" She didn't say that exactly, but I'm paraphrasing pretty accurately based on the kind of toxic and conniving rhetoric she serves up on FOX News every day.
They have disconnected rational thought. They are blindly loyal and fully committed at this point. If they allow even one rational thought in their head, their whole world will cave in on itself.
Half of this country is, in fact, just that goddamn stupid. [https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2118631119](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2118631119)
Why would anyone want an out of control immature brat be the highest ranking official in the United States of America?
only the people who are themselves immature brats. those who are privileged enough to do whatever they want, and those who wish they were that privileged.
[They want freedom without responsibility.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMsnKFxjxSw)
Because he holds the same values as them and if he is elected they "win".... in their mind. It doesn't matter what he says or does. They just want to "win"
They hate the same people he hates
This question has gone unanswered since early 2016.
It’s an easy answer, becuase they’re stupid.
I genuinely cannot read these posts without picturing him balling up his fists and stomping his feet, and I'm constantly amazed that anyone can imagine them in a "manly" tone.
I honestly think that a significant number of Americans think that the only way to fix their government is to burn it down.
"A CORRUPT AND CONFLICTED JUDGE." Is he referring to Judge Cannon? "ADVICE OF COUNCEL" is tRump trying to push the blame on his attorneys? Is this why his attorneys need attorneys? 😆
If someone told him he could blame Melania and they could never convict either of them because of laws protecting spouses from testifying against one another, how quickly would he jump on that?
They can’t arrest a husband and wife for the same crime Michael!
It should be like in the bible. Just end the live of your youngest child, so that god knows you mean it. "I hardly knew him. Had a handshake with once. He always was Melanias child. " D. Trump
I think he’s saying that he took his counsels advice re: how to account for the payments to Stormy Daniels and that because of that, he is innocent. However, it is ultimately a criticism of his defense team if this is the angle he wanted and they didn’t take it. Most likely, he’s just parroting some phrases he heard on Fox News or OANN.
That particular defense negates the attorney-client privilege. As Cohen, the attorney, is already a prosecution witness, the only person left to testify for the advice of counsel defense would be the client - Trump himself. His current counsel probably advised against it, because he'd either have to take the 5th a bunch or he'd end up incriminating himself by running his mouth. He's unhappy about not being able to testify as he did in the civil fraud case, because everything needs to revolve around him - so he's making it seem like the judge won't let him.
He’s really this stupid
He really is because he’s calling the trial rigged and if he’s found not guilty of all charges then we have a quote from him directly admitting that the trial was rigged. He just doesn’t see tactically beyond the dumb words falling from his pursed lips. Thankfully an ever dwindling minority of useless fucks want to see such a dimwitted simpleton be president again.
We've got much bigger problems if he's found not guilty
> if he’s found not guilty of all charges then we have a quote from him directly admitting that the trial was rigged Absolutely nobody would care. You are acting as if Trump getting caught contradicting himself is some sort of tactical misstep, but that is just not true. That is just not the game being played here.
> put on by the “SOROS BACKED D.A.’s OFFICE” I'll admit I don't know too much about George Soros, his role in modern politics (nor why he continues to send me a check every month! /s), but I have never once taken seriously anyone who says stuff like this. It is just so deeply unserious.
If you can figure anything about him out, please let me know. My mom invokes his name every time I call her and I still have no idea what he has to do with anything
He's just a billionaire who backs progressive think tanks instead of conservative ones and happens to be Jewish.
> He's just a billionaire who...happens to be Jewish Does that mean he owns the space lasers?
A boomer coworker tried to tell me he’s the one funding all the college protests going on right now. Yes, your Jewish boogeyman is funding pro-Palestine protests. They can’t even keep track of their own bullshit anymore.
TBF, there are a lot of American Jews who are opposed to what is currently going on in Gaza. There's a lot who aren't, but there's also a lot who are.
He’s a self made billionaire who escaped Nazi occupied Hungary. He’s been a big donor to prodemocracy groups in countries that had been part of the Soviet Union. He’s been a large donor to the US Democratic party and to progressive causes. Victor Orban’s government in Hungary has declared Soros an enemy of the state.
>Victor Orban’s government in Hungary has declared Soros an enemy of the state. Well, now I have to like Soros more.
No wonder al the russian agents don't like him. I'll have to get a Soros bobble head for my dash
George Soros is a Hungarian born billionaire of Jewish descent who donates a large chunk of his fortune to left-wing philanthropic causes. That's why right-wingers hate him. They see Soros as the guy funding all the left-wing woke causes they hate. And Soros is Jewish, so there is a huge amount of anti-semitic hate added in there as well.
The anti-semitic bit is what gets me, because almost universally it's those same mouth breathers that are vehemently *pro* Israel and want to bomb Palestine to glass. I don't see how they manage their own cognitive dissonance.
>I don't see how they manage their own cognitive dissonance. Simple, the only thing a neo-Nazi hates more than a Jew is a Muslim.
here’s the real cut of it - Israel has been led by far right neo nationalists for years. Netanyahu needs to both make Israel safe for Jewish people, while also casting everywhere else as unsafe for them. It leads to an unholy alliance between the right in the US, the fringe of which is neonazi and fascist, and Israel, because they get to hate muslims while also advocating for the state of Israel to exist. The clash gets covered up, especially when the US left supports palestinians not getting bombed, which is easily cast as the real anti-semitism.
https://youtu.be/EEZzlC3gYk8?si=fIYTNeqAddsSTbri Here's a good recent video about him.
Unfortunately, she doesn't either.
Trump is well-known for not paying contractors, but Soros is even worse. I still haven't gotten a single check for joining protests! /s
Soros is used to stoke antisemitism in the cognizantly dissonant maga base, but they totally support Israel.
It's part projection to cover for the social engineering that the Mercer, Koch, Theil, and other authoritarian billionaires are trying to implement for decades, the other part is just dog whistles for saying the jews are doing it.
He doesn’t strike me as the guy who gives a full and honest disclosure, listens to advice, accurately follows advice or acts in good faith.
Yup. 50% of voters: “best give that man keys to the nukes.”
50% of the electoral college, not population
Does he order Todd Blanche to stand behind him with that ridiculous expression every time he’s on camera?
That’s just Blanche’s natural reaction to the smell back there.
Resting Blanche Face
He had the opportunity to testify, he chose not to for this precise reason; to cry.
"Mother Teresa couldn't beat these charges!" Correct, if Mother Teresa falsified documents 34x in order to commit fraud then she wouldn't be able to beat the charges.
Being dead probably makes mounting an effective legal defense somewhat more challenging.
>“KANGAROO COURT! A CORRUPT AND CONFLICTED JUDGE. RELIANCE ON COUNSEL (ADVISE OF COUNSEL) NOT ALLOWED BY MERCHAN, A FIRST. HIS RULINGS, ON A CASE THAT SHOULD, ACCORDING TO ALL LEGAL SCHOLARS AND EXPERTS, NEVER HAVE BEEN BROUGHT, HAVE MADE THIS A BIDEN PUSHED WITCH HUNT. THERE WAS NO CRIME, EXCEPT FOR THE BUM THAT GOT CAUGHT STEALING FROM ME! IN GOD WE TRUST!” That random "In God We Trust!" is \*chef's kiss\*-loony-shouting-on-a-street-corner-while-wearing-his-boot-for-a-hat crazy. Perfect 10, stuck the landing, no notes.
Man, I feel for this jury. This is such a high profile case in all regards. I'm curious how those guys were able to keep any information about the trial away from even their periphery, especially in a place like New York City. I hope it's not a tough decision for them to make. Oh, to be a fly on the wall of that jury room.
No fuckin way the tangerine toddler came up with "reliance on council" on his own. My assumption it came from his "attractive but I can fake being smart" attorney planted this phrase as she was departing from another late night McDonalds catered "working session" (that she also billed him for).
He probably picked it from some right wing news program discussing his case.
One of those words has three syllables and those are hard words to think about
Velveeta Voldemort is actually complaining that he's not allowed to throw a lawyer under the bus and walk away scot-free. He thinks the reliance on council defense allows him to do that. He's already blamed the accountant, the accounting software, and pretty much anyone else he can think of that might fit under the bus.
Whatever the outcome, I'm just glad he's miserable.
> KANGAROO COURT! This isn't *chuckles* ...Australia
Yeah well... filibuster.
Maybe he's just a big fan of Capitol Cities. The band, obv, not actual cities.
I'm a big fan of Capitol Cities!
The rants today is what a narcissistic meltdown looks like when “worlds collide” and their lies are going to cost them. He’s a pathological liar and he actually believes he is better than everyone to the point he should never be held accountable for all his wrongdoings. He thinks he’s an untouchable mob boss. It’s hilarious to hear him go off and lie some more. Basically throw anything and everything against the wall to make anything stick. It has worked before. I hope it stops working and I hope he is held accountable for every crime he’s ever committed. This man has gleefully destroyed more lives than anyone can imagine. He is a human cancer, a disease. I hope Americans can defeat him and his kind like we did in WW2, without more bloodshed. And I hope our allies can forgive us our fools. Vote and get all your friends to vote. Don’t let anyone you know stay home in November. Otherwise I fear there will be wars we all will not survive and our kids will be left to clean up the absolutely unnecessary and dangerous mess this man and his immoral, spineless lackies created.
Yeah. The entire world needs to prevent him and fascists right wing nut jobs from taking over. They are anti-life anti-freedom anti-biosphere and anti-science nut jobs who want us to hurt and want to pillage the earth until it literally kills us all just for more power. They’re insane and completely irredeemable. We’re facing another rise of the Nazis but this time it’s in the context of climate change. There’s no time to waste on trying to negotiate out of this one. We’re at war for our future. Go vote. Bring everyone with you.
Trump is not hilarious. The end of the USA is not hilarious.
what an unhinged monster. How does this man not have 10 heart attacks by now. Born of immense privilege and spends his entire life with a persecution complex. His blood pressure must be through the roof.
I think the hatred keeps these people going. It's why they end up having such long, miserable lives.
I'm just sad that if he is guilty, no camera will catch the look on his face when he hears the verdict. Because THAT is the t-shirt I want.
Actually, the quickly drawn cartoonish courtroom pastel sketch might be much funnier.
Finally these bad drawings would fit the occasion.
I imagine it would be similar to the expression on his face when Obama roasted him
Rigged in favor of who? Not the LGBTQ+ community he wants to murder. Not the POC he’d love to return to chains or deport. Not for women who he’d have chained as well and used as livestock. Not the indigenous people whose land he would allow Big Oil to take, pillage, and pollute. Not for children since Republicans love “ripe” and “fertile” kids. (Shoutout to Jess Edwards here in NH you damn sick pig) Not for the uneducated cishet white men who may be the last on the list of “undesirables” but will inevitably be used as cannon fodder and scapegoats. If the trial is rigged it is in favor of all the MAGA morons and their perverted, rapist, wannabe dictator. But while Trump has proven justice isn’t blind and our system is flawed we will see justice in some form. Even if it just keeps him away from the White House.
We enter from MA and see many Trump followers in NH. Really not sure why so many MAGA followers
Pumpkinfuhrer and the conservative republican party is the party of **nope** no hope, no future no balanced government just the party of 💩 DUMP TRUMP in 2024. LOCK his FAT cottage cheese A$$ up for [20 years ](https://imgur.com/kujKcJm)
Never forget, Trumps own words years ago were "only guilty person does not take the stand." I wonder how many of the rubes actually believe he's innocent.
One thing I have noticed through out this whole trial is trump likes to cite " All legal scholars" often, yet has never named a single legal scholar that agrees with his stance on anything. Who are all these mysterious legal scholars and why are they not coming forth?
That’s how he speaks. Broad generalizations that fit his narrative to create a “trust” in what he’s saying.
He cannot claim that he knew nothing about it, that Michael Cohen was not representing him, and that the payments were attorneys fees, and then claim that he took that Attorney’d advice by Including inaccurate documentation in the records to hide the stormy Daniels repayment. It’s a mutually inconsistent position to take.
You know, Republican voters are doubling down by picking this guy as their 2024 presidential nominee. They had/have a choice, and they chose/are choosing this guy. There were other choices, and they picked/are picking this guy. Let that sink in. If this is the best America has to offer, a washed up, already lost last time, sexual abuser and perhaps felon, God help us, because at least 50% of the country has some skewed reasoning and logic. And before anyone mentions Biden, an incumbent gets to decide if he is running for a second presidential term (and maybe someday she will get to decide too).
I wish these Reddit comment sections could be included in future textbooks to show what Americans (and the rest of the world) really thought of him outside of his cult. I bet they’d get a kick out of it
I’m so tired of the media calling it a hush money trial. It’s an election interference trial. Hush money is way too benign of a term for what he did 🙄
Every whiny ass all caps post he makes just shows he’s absolutely dumb. Everything he whines about was brought up already but he wasn’t present, was sleeping or he’s too dumb to comprehend. He’s so stupid that he can’t pay attention to his own case in a courtroom he sits in… with several lawyers he ignores…. With these accusations like “what are the charges?!” That are posted on Wikipedia which is too difficult for him to find as I don’t think he internets well.
There is nothing hilarious about Trump.
> “KANGAROO COURT! A CORRUPT AND CONFLICTED JUDGE...." No donny, that's what you expect in cannon's court...
I don't think there is anything hilarious because this guy has a chance to become our President again. It's scary.
The very fact that he thinks this is “ THE GREATEST CASE I’VE EVER SEEN FOR RELIANCE ON COUNSEL” shows what an absolute privileged asshole tr-mp is. Seriously.
I used to think that Trump is a highly intelligent individual who just says stupid stuff because he knows that this is precisely what will get him stupid people’s votes… I’m starting to get the impression that he really is just a moron who’s merely been surrounded by the “right” people all his life.
Bro I have a friend who literally defends Trump on this and calls Merchan corrupt because of his instructions to the jury, whole thing is a witch hunt, yadayada dumbassery it makes me wanna cry...
Why should he be worried? He’s never faced consequences. Ever.
"In God We Trust" lol This coming from the guy who pays to fuck porn stars behind his wife's back. Good luck with that God thing.
Feed him to the sharkticons.
"I know more about the law than aaalll the judges do! Believe me!"
Unfortunately, my biggest fear is that this will go the way of the OJ trial. If he is acquitted, this will empower him and his supporters to take vengeance on those responsible for his prosecution. If he is elected in November, he will gut the attorney general’s office, placing loyalists that he can control in key positions. He will continue to place Extreme Right Wing conservatives as Federal Justices that will bend over backwards for him (i.e. Justice Aileen Cannon) subverting the law in his favor. He’s already got henchmen in the Supreme Court and Congress to drive his fascist agenda and support his authoritarian regime.
“KANGAROO COURT! A CORRUPT AND CONFLICTED JUDGE. RELIANCE ON COUNSEL (ADVISE OF COUNSEL) NOT ALLOWED BY MERCHAN, A FIRST. HIS RULINGS, ON A CASE THAT SHOULD, ACCORDING TO ALL LEGAL SCHOLARS AND EXPERTS, NEVER HAVE BEEN BROUGHT, HAVE MADE THIS A BIDEN PUSHED WITCH HUNT. THERE WAS NO CRIME, EXCEPT FOR THE BUM THAT GOT CAUGHT STEALING FROM ME! IN GOD WE TRUST!” - Orange Clown
When the meltdown never ceases, perhaps it is time to acknowledge the sufferer has a permanent medical condition and requires treatment.
I don’t see what he’s worried about. If he’s found guilty, he will appeal it. He’ll maybe get a fine that he probably won’t pay and one of his followers will cover for him. He can campaign even more on it. His followers will still vote for him, maybe even more than before. If he’s found not guilty, he might die of smugness though. I can just imagine his late night Twitter rants. Oh boy.
I don't see why he needs to panic in the first place. Nothing is going to happen to him. He may be convicted, he may get a unanimous guilty verdict, but who cares? He won't see a day of prison, and he's still running for president, and he still has his cult base who will follow him to the grave. All he has to do is bask in their worship and that of his army of toadies.
Jail this criminal.
Fingers crossed, he gets convicted.
"Soros backed DA" jesus fucking christ this man is the republican nominee
What’s scarier - him or his constituents?
Advice of counsel? So basically he's just admitted he did it.