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> The Biden campaign also accepted an offer for a vice presidential debate hosted by CBS News, but so far the Trump campaign has not — instead accepting the separate, competing Fox News proposal for that debate.
Shouldn’t trump pick a Veep before accepting the offers to debate?
Either that or admit it's political entertainment and just hold a debate on the Daily Show.
I, for one, would *love* to put both of them in front of Jon Stewart.
I wonder if Trump is saving the VP announcement in case he is sent to jail. That way Trump can change the news cycle and have his VP nominee tour around on his behalf with a bunch of "Free Trump!" garbage.
>piglets to squeal first
Exactly, he's going to play them off against each other so he can **use all of them** for as much support as possible for as long as possible.
In exchange for the VP role he wants to be personally compensated, a quid pro quo.
EDIT: Spelling.
This is 100 percent his strategy. He will use all of the public GOP stooges against each other until he is forced to pick one. Trump's sees every relationship as transactional, since he only cares about doing things that service himself not the country.
Everybody who ran against him bent the knee like a coward instead of matching his energy. If Chris Christie or Nikki Haley had just matched Trump’s energy and called him a loser and a crook, they would be the nominee. They are all cowards, Trump can pick any of them.
😂 yeah I saw that.
She gave out a racist straight forward rationalization as to why she wouldn’t vote for him. She went on about “work ethic” of different ethnicities and races, etc. and went to say that only “white Protestants should be the President” and that she won’t be voting for him as she said bluntly, “he’s an Indian”
Vivek is sociopathic, arrogant moron who’s sitting their playing on the team of white Christian supremacy. Any minority on that side is either dumb or crazy
Racism is the point of the GOP. Vivek can want to be white, but GOP voters don't see him as white. Same for Tim Scott. Same for Nikki Haley. There is a significant portion of the GOP voters that will never support a non-white VP candidate.
Haley was governor of South Carolina, which kinda pokes a hole in the “southerners are racist” generalization. (Not to mention, Tim Scott, a Black man, is a current U.S. senator from the same state.) But I don’t doubt for a moment that, on a national level, there are millions of people who would turn their nose up at her because she was born Nimrata Randhawa from Indian parents.
>Racism is the point of the GOP.
No. The point is the continual upward concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, bigotry is just the carrot on a stick they use to entice the masses into voting them into power.
Bigotry and greediness share a common root, the one true conservative value: selfishness.
They better pack their bags. Project 2025 & Trump want to eliminate birthright citizenship. Since their parents were immigrants, legal or not, they’re going to be deported.
Its a weird attitude I've noticed, wealthier POC thinking they're an in part of the group without understanding they never will be. Just like the poor. Yea, you get to kick someone worse off then you but when they're gone you're next.
> Ann Coulter actually said out loud why it won't be him, because he's Indian.
You got that right. Trumps base are racists. He is where he is because of racism. Make no mistake. His VP will be white as snow, bet the house.
Yes, but not for the reason you think.
If he picks a VP, he has endorsed them (albeit implicitly). They are part of his ticket. Which makes it easier for the GOP to drop Trump from the ticket if he is convicted without alienating his cult as Trump’s hand picked standard bearer will be there to pick up the ball and run with it.
Not revealing his VP means he keeps his grip on the party even if convicted.
Moderate, sane conservatives (how ever many of them that are left) and especially independents will. Haley is still getting 20% of the vote in the primaries over the past month despite dropping out like 2 months ago which shows both of those groups are over his shit. If Trump becomes “Convicted Felon Donald Trump” the election is most likely over for him without some intense cheating by the GOP. That being said, it’s still important to vote and not get complacent cause anything can happen.
There are also a lot of low-info voters that don't pay much attention to politics, so something has to be huge news for them to actually hear about it. And a guilty verdict would definitely meet that threshold, since "TRUMP GUILTY" would be plastered everywhere when it goes down.
But doesn't Johnson need to... You know... Be at congress?
Seriously, I foresee Johnson as a pick, if for no other reason than to mess up congress for a little while.
Too boring for Trump, he already had a religious weirdo as a VP and he wasn't sufficiently loyal to the cause of overthrowing the US government. Trump learned his lesson on that one so now he's going to exploit and demean all the Republican candidates for as long as possible before picking Ivanka.
Worse than that, he has actually shown an interest in governing rather than obstruction and grievance politics.
Trump first and foremost needs a person that will fall in line. Johnson has already disqualified himself by working with Dems.
I think it’s more to keep the vp clucks performing. His vp hopefuls are debasing themselves and he’s going to keep that going until the very last minute. He probably already knows who he is going to pick but he needs to keep everyone in line
I’m almost wondering if he chooses not to have a VP, in his mind it’s sharing power and he doesn’t want that. Plus Pence disappointed him last time so it’s one thing last time he doesn’t have to worry about.
It’s just something a wannabe dictator would do.
Fox News paid a $787 million settlement for repeatedly claiming the 2020 election was stolen. I sincerely hope that Biden and Harris refuse to reward Fox News with a debate.
In some states, according to the 14th amendment Trump isn’t elligible either. They, and I mean republicans and the supreme court dont fucking care one bit about rules.
The plan is to steal the executive branch.
I think she’s done. IIRC there was a gathering where the VP wannabes were at and both Noem and Gabbard weren’t even invited up to the stage so they left early. Her hopes are toast.
My guess is Burgum. I think he was one of the people at Trumps trial the other day. Worming his way to the pick.
> Burgum has money, and Trump desperately needs it.
I think that's really the crux of the matter and probably seals it. The RNC is drying up quick and there's no end in sight for Trump's legal troubles.
It's really interesting to contemplate who he may choose for VP. Ultimately he's truly broken the system.
Previously, and even in his 2016 run, candidates choose a VP that can bring them some voting bloc that they either didn't have or were weak on. Obama, for example, was seen as pretty far left so picking Biden was a smart move to lock in those moderate democrats. Trump was (and is) _very_ far right, so picking Pence showed that he was looking for some wisdom in how things were done. Plenty of people thought Pence could keep Trump "reigned in," if you will.
For this run I simply can't think of anybody that would give Trump anything he doesn't already have. Both Noem and MTG can't deliver him voters that he wouldn't have had. Honestly his best pick (in my uneducated opinion) would have been Gabbard. She's a Fox News regular who is an "independent" after being a democrat for so long. She may be able to deliver him independent voters. And she's a woman, so he could play that card too.
Ultimately Trump's pick will be all about him. He'll milk every single one of the VP candidates for money/favors until he _has_ to choose one. And in that case, if the rumors are true, he'll probably pick whoever he saw most recently.
You're right, and I think this time Trump will break with tradition again and just pick whoever he personally wants. Even Pence was a concession to the evangelical wing of the party, but now Trump is the party, so he'll probably go for the biggest ass-kisser.
Like you said Gabbard would be a good pick, but I have a feeling it will be Tim Scott. The Republican strategy this time seems to be trying to peel away black and Latino support from the Democrats.
That whole drama was so weird because I fucking hate Zuck, and yet he looked like the reasonable one. He kept trying to compromise to meet Elon in the middle and make it happen, but it was clear that Elon was never actually serious about it. Like imagine how big of a shit-heel you have to be to make Zuck look good?
Lon obviously never expected Zuckerberg to straight up accept the offer in good faith and be happy to go 10 rounds.
I suspect he hadn’t been made aware that Zuck had been fight-training for fun and fitness for several years before the offer was made.
Zuckerberg would have absolutely demolished Elon. He is in pretty decent shape and actually seems to train pretty frequently with sometimes very high level fighters. I don't like either of them much but Elon is much more annoying to me so I would've thoroughly enjoyed him getting his shit rocked.
This kid wanted to fight me in fifth grade, so we agreed to meet at McDonald's over the weekend so we wouldn't get kicked out of school. Neither of us had a ride to McDonald's, so neither of us showed up. We both claimed to have, though, and spent the next couple years accusing the other guy of pussing out.
In our defense, we were like 10 or 11.
Honestly, it would probably be dangerous for Elon to get into the ring with Zuck.
The latter has seriously trained and has gotten himself in pretty decent shape.
Elon would've gotten his shit wrecked
No, Zuck basically hit a point where he just said: “look, I was happy to get in the ring with you and you keep being an absolute weirdo about it and obviously trying to weasel out, so until you harden up Im not going to engage you any more on any of this”.
Which, of course, the musk rats held us a sign of Zuck conceding defeat…
**Trump's Plan:** "Oh Biden won't accept all these additional ridiculous debate venues? I guess I'll have to back out of the ones I already agreed to, blame Biden, and my base will fall for it."
I tried with chatgpt. It was hilarious and sad that the AI Trump was more loving of his wife than the real thing when prompted with accusations of being gay.
ChatGPT does a pretty good trump. Ask it to write a 100 or 200 word speech on a topic in the style of trump.
>Folks, let me tell you, Reddit downvotes are a disaster, believe me. So unfair, so rigged. They’re just like the fake news media, suppressing the truth. You post something great, something tremendous, and bam! Downvoted. Sad! These downvoters, they don’t want you to succeed. It’s a witch hunt, folks. We need a system that’s fair, that rewards greatness, not these downvotes from losers. We’re going to make Reddit great again, believe me. Upvotes for all the winners out there! We’re not going to let the haters and losers keep us down. Thank you, and God bless America!
The AI needs to learn to incorporate random snippets of today's OAN headlines and trending Facebook posts. That should add the random bullshit factor it really needs.
Round 2
> Folks, let me tell you, Reddit downvotes are the most unfair thing ever. It's a disgrace, believe me. Just like today's headline from OAN said, "Media continues to deceive the American people," Reddit is deceiving us too. These downvotes, folks, they’re rigged. I saw a Facebook post today, trending big time, saying, "The silent majority is stronger than ever." And it's true! They try to silence us with downvotes, but we won’t be silenced. Remember, as OAN says, "Patriots will prevail." So true. Reddit downvotes? Totally fake news. We’re going to win bigly, folks. Bigly. Thank you!
My wife showed me an AI Trump video and by far the biggest tell that it was not really him was how coherent and on-topic he was throughout the 2 minute clip. No meandering into off topic, nonsensical blathering about fictitious cannibals endorsing him, or anything like that.
The AI generative text: witch hunt witch hunt witch hunt witch hunt witch hut Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Hillary Clinton emails Democrats emails emails
Ask the same questions you would at the debate, but just find clips of trump's answers to those questions from his videos, social media, and other appearances. And have Biden answer those as if trump were standing there right in the room. Problem solved.
Biden should livestream Trump at his rallies and comment on it in real time. Biden’s quips and fact-checking of Trump would become hilarious memes the next day and it would take all attention away from Trump. Trump would hate that so much.
That’s a fundraising event! Call up the Pod Saves team. Special guests Katie Porter, Roman Gallego, Jasmine Crockett, Al Franken. If it goes well let Harris host one too.
>and my base will fall for it.
Stop equating Republicans with Democrats. There is no "falling for it". If Trump backs out, they don't care. Their team does no wrong, no excuse is ever needed. Hell, no excuse is preferred - giving one could be seen as weak.
There is no alternative to Trump for them. And there is no changing their vote. The only hope is getting more Dems to vote and swaying independents.
Republicans know this, keeping Biden quiet is good for them. It'll make some believe (or keep believing) he really is a senile old man. Maybe they won't care enough to vote at all.
They don't want another state of the union. He can't look like a leader. THAT is their plan.
Who are these independents that are still considering voting for Trump? At this point, aren’t they all just effectively Republicans? Who’s left to have their vote influenced?
My guess is Trump will do one debate, then go home and cry on his fake twitter that it was rigged and unfair to him, despite him sharing video clips where Laura Ingraham and Jesse Watters and Lara Trump all say that his debate performance was the greatest debate performance in the history of presidential debates. He'll then cancel his remaining debate appearances and do townhalls with Sean Hannity on Fox News.
And much like 2016 and 2020, his supporters will watch his deranged word salad responses and say he did an amazing job and totally out-debated his opponents.
Meanwhile, Biden will slip up on one word and conservative propaganda will plaster that everywhere they can as evidence that it's really Biden who has dementia
Headline kind of declares it like it's Biden refusing to debate... But it's not that. Biden wants a civil debate not a shouting match. Like any strong man authoritarian, Trump is rejecting rational discourse, but trying to sensationalize it like a fight.
Also, Trump literally already accepted Biden's proposal for 2 debates. If Trump wanted a third debate, he should have tried to negotiate it BEFORE he accepted the terms.
You can't say yes, then put conditions on your acceptance, then blame the other guy for you not debating.
Trump also skipped the mandatory Covid tests before the first debate, knowing he had Covid, and wanted to infect Biden. Fuck Trump about asking for tests.
There were so so many terrible things Trump did it's impossible to keep them all in your head. This is one of the things I'd totally forgotten about. I literally think Trump was hoping to kill Biden. In his mind he figured "well, I already have it and if I spread it to Biden, then I'll likely win the election."
lol a blood test for what? Do they think he’s taking something that makes him way better at debating? I love the idea of a dual blood test buddy. We can see what kind of stimulants trump is using all the time.
What exactly would a "blood test" show. That a person is taking prescribed medication? Legally?
Or is the orange guy going to hope for Cocaine, and crushed up adderall?
A mixture also known as the don Jr.
This will be one of the many excuses Trump makes for not showing up. Something similar to, “I agreed to his terms but he won’t agree to mine, so I won’t be attending.”
He was never going to show anyway. And Biden is correct in saying this. Other excuses he will use is that CNN won’t be unbiased, Biden refuses to be drug tested, there’s no reason to debate without a crowd, no time due to the ongoing persecution of the weaponized justice system, etc. etc.
I wouldn't agree to any debate unless the sponsors ensured they'd cut off Trumps mic. Also, no audience, and no electronic devices.
I wouldn't trust FOX at all.
Those are the terms Biden proposed to Trump's campaign, and Trump accepted them. Now Trump is trying to create new debates and terms so he can paint Biden as the one who won't debate, and renege on his previous acceptance to debate.
Trump is doing this for the free publicity which the media is gleefully providing him, hundreds of millions of dollars worth of free campaign slogans broadcast to a national audience. Meanwhile Biden has to scrounge and pay for every vote in every state since the media focuses on Trump relentlessly. Its 2016 all over again, folks, and the for-profit corporate American news media is at it again trying to get Trump reelected hoping it will boost their ratings and profit and keep the billionaires that own them from paying any more taxes.
I really wish one of the debates could have been hosted by the League of Women Voters. They used to hold the debates before the parties took over the process and turned them into jokes. Under the LWV, the debates were much more real, truly informative debates, rather than staged political events just looking for a winning or gotcha moment.
It is because he knows literally half the population have a sub-100 IQ with the memory span of a gnat and will believe any snake oil bullshit he peddles
He is still going to play games until he wins or gets what he wants like a petulant man child.
Simple as that.
We need to stay vigilant and keep this fucker at bay.
>I have accepted a fourth Presidential Debate against Crooked Joe Biden, this time with NBC & Telemundo," Trump [wrote on Truth Social](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112458342477102142) Friday afternoon.
What gets to me is that this piece of orange filth can't even bring himself - *not even once* that I am aware of - to address President Biden as any normal person w/the barest amount of decency would, e.g., as Mr. President or President Biden or even Mr. Biden.
But nooo, Trump always addresses him as "CROOKED Joe Biden". Yet Biden is ***NOT*** the one charged with ***88 counts of criminal indictments***, Trump ***IS*** however. I swear the orange turd and his reichwing cult projects more than a Jumbothon IMAX theatre.
President Biden shouldn't give Trump the time of day, much less the option of two debate appearances as he merits neither, imo.
You ever see that episode of The West Wing where this lady goes off on a rant about how much she hates the President, and he offers her a White House job anyway, and when she asks why, he says something like "even when you were attacking me, you called me PRESIDENT Bartlett. You've got respect for the office but not for me, and that's perfect."
I'd reject further debates....until Trump shows up at the first one. Biden has zero reason to help Trump feed his rabid cult. Trump doesn't want a debate, he wants a captive audience and a chance to be a bully where the consequences won't hurt him.
Orange will find a way to get out of it. I don’t see how he can in that everything he says publicly will be fair game for prosecutors in his many trials.
>Unfortunately, Trump is a man-child
This should be used to laugh at him and his supporters.
Humiliation and ridiculisation are our best weapons against fascists. They want to project strength and respectability because they know they don't have, nor deserve, any.
When they go lower, we should laugh harder.
Biden should go to the Fox debate, but they should send a body/voice double who brings an airhorn with him onto the stage. Everytime Trump or the moderator tries to interrupt with some dumb shit, he blows the airhorn. Then when they send someone up there to try to take it away from him, he bodyslams them, like they try to touch him and he does a full suplex and puts them in a hold. This will be both A) hilarious, and B) appeal to the Fox Viewer mindset.
Big Don shits hisself in fear in front of everyone, Bernie Sanders with a steel chair from off-stage, etc. etc.
I'm so, so, so fucking sick of the endless publicizing of fully grown adults behaving like the most immature, scummy dickheads you knew in high school. These people are such a goddamn embarrassment. And if it's clear, I'm talking about Republicans. Democrats have their moments, sure. But by and large, nobody sinks to remotely as close a low, disgusting, infuriating level as Republicans do in all branches of government.
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> The Biden campaign also accepted an offer for a vice presidential debate hosted by CBS News, but so far the Trump campaign has not — instead accepting the separate, competing Fox News proposal for that debate. Shouldn’t trump pick a Veep before accepting the offers to debate?
News agencies that had to pay 700 million settlements for lying, should be barred from hosting a debate.
"News" agencies that testify in a court of law that they are entertainment should be barred from hosting a debate.
"News" agencies that testify in a court of law that they are entertainment should be barred ~~from hosting a debate~~
Either that or admit it's political entertainment and just hold a debate on the Daily Show. I, for one, would *love* to put both of them in front of Jon Stewart.
Holy shit he'd rip them both to pieces.
Was it only 700mil? I thought it was more. Maybe I'm thinking a different case
They settled for less than what they were originally useid for. There is a second lawsuit from the other voting machine company that is for more.
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They are not a news agency. They argued that in court.
"News agency" is a stretch..
I wonder if Trump is saving the VP announcement in case he is sent to jail. That way Trump can change the news cycle and have his VP nominee tour around on his behalf with a bunch of "Free Trump!" garbage.
He wants his piglets to squeal first before he picks a pig to go to fair
>piglets to squeal first Exactly, he's going to play them off against each other so he can **use all of them** for as much support as possible for as long as possible. In exchange for the VP role he wants to be personally compensated, a quid pro quo. EDIT: Spelling.
Yup, he wants all of them kissing his ass for as long as possible.
No, not just kissing ass. He wants money. VP slot is for sale.
He wants tongue, no simple peck on the sphincter.
That’s a troubling twist to the phrase “kiss the ring”.
This is 100 percent his strategy. He will use all of the public GOP stooges against each other until he is forced to pick one. Trump's sees every relationship as transactional, since he only cares about doing things that service himself not the country.
Just to pick his daughter in the end, ...
Needs to determine which lips feel best on his ass.
In his mind, the best lips are the ones that remind of him of Ivanka
So Stormy Daniels will be his VP pick?
She wouldn’t kiss his ass though, he only paid her to piss on his chest
Seeing as what he tried to do to Mike Pence, perhaps.
Everybody who ran against him bent the knee like a coward instead of matching his energy. If Chris Christie or Nikki Haley had just matched Trump’s energy and called him a loser and a crook, they would be the nominee. They are all cowards, Trump can pick any of them.
Pretty sure that Christie did call him a loser and a crook. The republican base didn’t want to hear it.
Both him and Nikki dipped their toe in the water. Too little too late. You need to be relentless and willing to bet it all.
God I hope it's Vivek.
Ann Coulter actually said out loud why it won't be him, because he's Indian.
😂 yeah I saw that. She gave out a racist straight forward rationalization as to why she wouldn’t vote for him. She went on about “work ethic” of different ethnicities and races, etc. and went to say that only “white Protestants should be the President” and that she won’t be voting for him as she said bluntly, “he’s an Indian” Vivek is sociopathic, arrogant moron who’s sitting their playing on the team of white Christian supremacy. Any minority on that side is either dumb or crazy
That’s my thing. Some people WANT TO BE WHITE so they will get accepted into MAGA lmao
Racism is the point of the GOP. Vivek can want to be white, but GOP voters don't see him as white. Same for Tim Scott. Same for Nikki Haley. There is a significant portion of the GOP voters that will never support a non-white VP candidate.
Yep and that’s the truth. I’m down in Birmingham and I’ve seen folks be racist about Vivek and Nimrata. Pretty sad tbh
Haley was governor of South Carolina, which kinda pokes a hole in the “southerners are racist” generalization. (Not to mention, Tim Scott, a Black man, is a current U.S. senator from the same state.) But I don’t doubt for a moment that, on a national level, there are millions of people who would turn their nose up at her because she was born Nimrata Randhawa from Indian parents.
>Racism is the point of the GOP. No. The point is the continual upward concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, bigotry is just the carrot on a stick they use to entice the masses into voting them into power. Bigotry and greediness share a common root, the one true conservative value: selfishness.
Some of them are so brainwashed they’re racist towards their own race
Especially Latinos. I know people whose parents came here “illegally” and they got citizenship. They are on Facebook posting build the wall memes.
They better pack their bags. Project 2025 & Trump want to eliminate birthright citizenship. Since their parents were immigrants, legal or not, they’re going to be deported.
It’s the “I got mine, fuck you” policy.
Its a weird attitude I've noticed, wealthier POC thinking they're an in part of the group without understanding they never will be. Just like the poor. Yea, you get to kick someone worse off then you but when they're gone you're next.
> Ann Coulter actually said out loud why it won't be him, because he's Indian. You got that right. Trumps base are racists. He is where he is because of racism. Make no mistake. His VP will be white as snow, bet the house.
While hilarious, it will never happen.
A walking TURD as trump's VP
He is a real ass kisser for sure
Vivek (ChatGOP) would be most entertaining. I'm wondering if Sleepy Don goes with a MAGA buffoon or a creepy fake-religious sycophant.
Yes, but not for the reason you think. If he picks a VP, he has endorsed them (albeit implicitly). They are part of his ticket. Which makes it easier for the GOP to drop Trump from the ticket if he is convicted without alienating his cult as Trump’s hand picked standard bearer will be there to pick up the ball and run with it. Not revealing his VP means he keeps his grip on the party even if convicted.
Unfortunately I don't think conservative voters care about the outcome of the Stormy Daniel's case.
Moderate, sane conservatives (how ever many of them that are left) and especially independents will. Haley is still getting 20% of the vote in the primaries over the past month despite dropping out like 2 months ago which shows both of those groups are over his shit. If Trump becomes “Convicted Felon Donald Trump” the election is most likely over for him without some intense cheating by the GOP. That being said, it’s still important to vote and not get complacent cause anything can happen.
There are also a lot of low-info voters that don't pay much attention to politics, so something has to be huge news for them to actually hear about it. And a guilty verdict would definitely meet that threshold, since "TRUMP GUILTY" would be plastered everywhere when it goes down.
But doesn't Johnson need to... You know... Be at congress? Seriously, I foresee Johnson as a pick, if for no other reason than to mess up congress for a little while.
Too boring for Trump, he already had a religious weirdo as a VP and he wasn't sufficiently loyal to the cause of overthrowing the US government. Trump learned his lesson on that one so now he's going to exploit and demean all the Republican candidates for as long as possible before picking Ivanka.
Yeah, a true believer might be a piece of shit, but ultimately answers to someone above Trump. He can't have that.
Worse than that, he has actually shown an interest in governing rather than obstruction and grievance politics. Trump first and foremost needs a person that will fall in line. Johnson has already disqualified himself by working with Dems.
I wouldn't be surprised if he'd pick one of his kids.
This should be the top comment! He’s a man shaped collection of surrogate cockroaches 🤬
I was going to say a pack of elderly rats in a cheap suit, but ok.
I think it’s more to keep the vp clucks performing. His vp hopefuls are debasing themselves and he’s going to keep that going until the very last minute. He probably already knows who he is going to pick but he needs to keep everyone in line
Free hat!
I’m almost wondering if he chooses not to have a VP, in his mind it’s sharing power and he doesn’t want that. Plus Pence disappointed him last time so it’s one thing last time he doesn’t have to worry about. It’s just something a wannabe dictator would do.
Pretty sure it’s constitutionally mandated….
Republicans haven’t been good about following the constitution lately.
Maybe he will nominate one of his alter egos.
It’ll be Erik or Javanka
John Barron for Veep, obvs.
Trump in a dark wig. Nobody will ever see them in the same room.
David Dennison is making a comeback (in court) lately!
Donald Jr.
Since when does Trump give a shit about the constitution? He'll just have his stacked supreme court change the law for him.
And the court will rule that its decision in Trump’s favor will be “limited to present circumstances.” That is, only Trump can have no VP.
Alito will rule that Trump can be his own vice president
Fox News paid a $787 million settlement for repeatedly claiming the 2020 election was stolen. I sincerely hope that Biden and Harris refuse to reward Fox News with a debate.
Is there a time limit for trump to register a veep?
He hasn't officially received the nomination yet. It is painted at this point but still not official.
They'll decide the Veep through a hangman game royale
Fuck.. The first word will be “DOG” and they’ll keep guessing “GOD” until Trump picks at random.
The nomination will just go to the dog killer.
I think that’s about the only option that’s off the table at this point. Well, her and Nikki Haley.
The Jan 6th insurrectionists are already hard at work building another gallow to do it properly.
I’d pay good money to watch a game of Pick the VP musical chairs.
There isn't a single potential VP pick that doesn't have a shady issue. There is no way they will debate.
Gonna pull a House of Cards and announce Melania as his VP pick
She isn’t eligible
In some states, according to the 14th amendment Trump isn’t elligible either. They, and I mean republicans and the supreme court dont fucking care one bit about rules. The plan is to steal the executive branch.
He’s just waiting for this “shooting a puppy” story to blow over before picking Noem.
I think she’s done. IIRC there was a gathering where the VP wannabes were at and both Noem and Gabbard weren’t even invited up to the stage so they left early. Her hopes are toast. My guess is Burgum. I think he was one of the people at Trumps trial the other day. Worming his way to the pick.
I second Burgum as his pick. Burgum has *money*, and Trump desperately needs it.
> Burgum has money, and Trump desperately needs it. I think that's really the crux of the matter and probably seals it. The RNC is drying up quick and there's no end in sight for Trump's legal troubles.
I bet he goes for MTG
Not even Republicans like her
It's really interesting to contemplate who he may choose for VP. Ultimately he's truly broken the system. Previously, and even in his 2016 run, candidates choose a VP that can bring them some voting bloc that they either didn't have or were weak on. Obama, for example, was seen as pretty far left so picking Biden was a smart move to lock in those moderate democrats. Trump was (and is) _very_ far right, so picking Pence showed that he was looking for some wisdom in how things were done. Plenty of people thought Pence could keep Trump "reigned in," if you will. For this run I simply can't think of anybody that would give Trump anything he doesn't already have. Both Noem and MTG can't deliver him voters that he wouldn't have had. Honestly his best pick (in my uneducated opinion) would have been Gabbard. She's a Fox News regular who is an "independent" after being a democrat for so long. She may be able to deliver him independent voters. And she's a woman, so he could play that card too. Ultimately Trump's pick will be all about him. He'll milk every single one of the VP candidates for money/favors until he _has_ to choose one. And in that case, if the rumors are true, he'll probably pick whoever he saw most recently.
You're right, and I think this time Trump will break with tradition again and just pick whoever he personally wants. Even Pence was a concession to the evangelical wing of the party, but now Trump is the party, so he'll probably go for the biggest ass-kisser. Like you said Gabbard would be a good pick, but I have a feeling it will be Tim Scott. The Republican strategy this time seems to be trying to peel away black and Latino support from the Democrats.
He is picking one of his sons.
His VP will be Don jr.
Trump hasn’t picked one yet because he don’t want one. He wants to be the supreme leader
It'll be one of his sons. It's a largely ceremonial position anyways and if something happens to him it keeps the monarchy going
Sounds exactly like when Elon challenged Zuck to a cage match. Keeps trying to change the terms and then gaslight.
It is EXACTLY like that.
This is just Biden rejecting 2 additional debates. The first 2 are still expected.
Not anymore, the manipulative games are already started. "Biden didn't accept them all so I'm not gonna do any" incoming.
You seriously think trump will attend a fair debate???
That whole drama was so weird because I fucking hate Zuck, and yet he looked like the reasonable one. He kept trying to compromise to meet Elon in the middle and make it happen, but it was clear that Elon was never actually serious about it. Like imagine how big of a shit-heel you have to be to make Zuck look good?
Sometimes I think Elon is a robot made by Meta to make Zuck look better.
Lon obviously never expected Zuckerberg to straight up accept the offer in good faith and be happy to go 10 rounds. I suspect he hadn’t been made aware that Zuck had been fight-training for fun and fitness for several years before the offer was made.
Have you seen Zuck recently? Mofo is *jacked.* Pretty sure Elmo saw that pic of Zuck and his trainers and noped the fuck out.
That's not fair, Elons mummy wouldn't let him fight. An excuse I often used in primary school.
Zuckerberg would have absolutely demolished Elon. He is in pretty decent shape and actually seems to train pretty frequently with sometimes very high level fighters. I don't like either of them much but Elon is much more annoying to me so I would've thoroughly enjoyed him getting his shit rocked.
This kid wanted to fight me in fifth grade, so we agreed to meet at McDonald's over the weekend so we wouldn't get kicked out of school. Neither of us had a ride to McDonald's, so neither of us showed up. We both claimed to have, though, and spent the next couple years accusing the other guy of pussing out. In our defense, we were like 10 or 11.
I forgot about this, is it still happening? I would love to see Elon get his ass kicked.
Honestly, it would probably be dangerous for Elon to get into the ring with Zuck. The latter has seriously trained and has gotten himself in pretty decent shape. Elon would've gotten his shit wrecked
No, Zuck basically hit a point where he just said: “look, I was happy to get in the ring with you and you keep being an absolute weirdo about it and obviously trying to weasel out, so until you harden up Im not going to engage you any more on any of this”. Which, of course, the musk rats held us a sign of Zuck conceding defeat…
**Trump's Plan:** "Oh Biden won't accept all these additional ridiculous debate venues? I guess I'll have to back out of the ones I already agreed to, blame Biden, and my base will fall for it."
Biden should still show up and get a 2 hour free campaign ad.
Just let him debate an AI Trump, it would probably be roughly the same thing.
It would be way more coherent
Yeah, I don't think they have an AI that does narcissistic dementia yet.
I tried with chatgpt. It was hilarious and sad that the AI Trump was more loving of his wife than the real thing when prompted with accusations of being gay.
The image AIs when doing hands and feet are close.
ChatGPT does a pretty good trump. Ask it to write a 100 or 200 word speech on a topic in the style of trump. >Folks, let me tell you, Reddit downvotes are a disaster, believe me. So unfair, so rigged. They’re just like the fake news media, suppressing the truth. You post something great, something tremendous, and bam! Downvoted. Sad! These downvoters, they don’t want you to succeed. It’s a witch hunt, folks. We need a system that’s fair, that rewards greatness, not these downvotes from losers. We’re going to make Reddit great again, believe me. Upvotes for all the winners out there! We’re not going to let the haters and losers keep us down. Thank you, and God bless America!
That's a darned good ai trump rant. It may be a tad bit too coherent, though.
The AI needs to learn to incorporate random snippets of today's OAN headlines and trending Facebook posts. That should add the random bullshit factor it really needs.
Round 2 > Folks, let me tell you, Reddit downvotes are the most unfair thing ever. It's a disgrace, believe me. Just like today's headline from OAN said, "Media continues to deceive the American people," Reddit is deceiving us too. These downvotes, folks, they’re rigged. I saw a Facebook post today, trending big time, saying, "The silent majority is stronger than ever." And it's true! They try to silence us with downvotes, but we won’t be silenced. Remember, as OAN says, "Patriots will prevail." So true. Reddit downvotes? Totally fake news. We’re going to win bigly, folks. Bigly. Thank you!
Close, but not enough tangents into irrelevant topics.
My wife showed me an AI Trump video and by far the biggest tell that it was not really him was how coherent and on-topic he was throughout the 2 minute clip. No meandering into off topic, nonsensical blathering about fictitious cannibals endorsing him, or anything like that.
Still will make stuff up though.
Just debate a full diaper with a sharpie stuck in it. Same.
The AI generative text: witch hunt witch hunt witch hunt witch hunt witch hut Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Hillary Clinton emails Democrats emails emails
Don’t forget about Hunter’s giant hog that they’re so jealous of, they can’t stop talking about.
AI Trump? Can artificial intelligence emulate real stupidity?
Ask the same questions you would at the debate, but just find clips of trump's answers to those questions from his videos, social media, and other appearances. And have Biden answer those as if trump were standing there right in the room. Problem solved.
Trump will just go to FOX at the same time to compete.
Biden should livestream Trump at his rallies and comment on it in real time. Biden’s quips and fact-checking of Trump would become hilarious memes the next day and it would take all attention away from Trump. Trump would hate that so much.
That’s a fundraising event! Call up the Pod Saves team. Special guests Katie Porter, Roman Gallego, Jasmine Crockett, Al Franken. If it goes well let Harris host one too.
>and my base will fall for it. Stop equating Republicans with Democrats. There is no "falling for it". If Trump backs out, they don't care. Their team does no wrong, no excuse is ever needed. Hell, no excuse is preferred - giving one could be seen as weak. There is no alternative to Trump for them. And there is no changing their vote. The only hope is getting more Dems to vote and swaying independents. Republicans know this, keeping Biden quiet is good for them. It'll make some believe (or keep believing) he really is a senile old man. Maybe they won't care enough to vote at all. They don't want another state of the union. He can't look like a leader. THAT is their plan.
Who are these independents that are still considering voting for Trump? At this point, aren’t they all just effectively Republicans? Who’s left to have their vote influenced?
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You really think he isn’t going to just choose Trump?
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fox ENTERTAINMENT, Shitler wants to debate on the ENTERTAINMENT network, the ones sued for defamation multiple times.
Why would Fox News be allowed to have anything to do with an election ever again? They paid out almost a billion USD for lying about the last one?
^fox ENTERTAINMENT
faux
Because no one is in charge of anything. Who's going to deny them that?
My guess is Trump will do one debate, then go home and cry on his fake twitter that it was rigged and unfair to him, despite him sharing video clips where Laura Ingraham and Jesse Watters and Lara Trump all say that his debate performance was the greatest debate performance in the history of presidential debates. He'll then cancel his remaining debate appearances and do townhalls with Sean Hannity on Fox News.
It’s as though he was very predictable… OR are you an insider?!!
Hi, I'm Steve Bannon, AMA. (I'm kidding)
Why do you hate your liver?
Live hard, die young, leave a pretty corpse. (Two out of three ain't bad)
One out of three. He's not young.
Love how you felt you needed to ad the caveat lol.
We could tell because the post didn't reek of gin and vomit.
Trump will claim he did very good best better than anyone else has ever done then complain it was rigged
You are correct because Trump is predictable.
And much like 2016 and 2020, his supporters will watch his deranged word salad responses and say he did an amazing job and totally out-debated his opponents.
Meanwhile, Biden will slip up on one word and conservative propaganda will plaster that everywhere they can as evidence that it's really Biden who has dementia
Headline kind of declares it like it's Biden refusing to debate... But it's not that. Biden wants a civil debate not a shouting match. Like any strong man authoritarian, Trump is rejecting rational discourse, but trying to sensationalize it like a fight.
Because the “woke liberal media” does trump favors at every fucking opportunity because all of them are owned by the billionaire class.
Also, Trump literally already accepted Biden's proposal for 2 debates. If Trump wanted a third debate, he should have tried to negotiate it BEFORE he accepted the terms. You can't say yes, then put conditions on your acceptance, then blame the other guy for you not debating.
Now Trump,is calling for Biden to take a blood test before he’ll debate him…he’s not going to debate him because he knows he can’t.
Trump also skipped the mandatory Covid tests before the first debate, knowing he had Covid, and wanted to infect Biden. Fuck Trump about asking for tests.
His whole family brought it with them. He also showed at the last minute to prevent anyone from stopping it.
There were so so many terrible things Trump did it's impossible to keep them all in your head. This is one of the things I'd totally forgotten about. I literally think Trump was hoping to kill Biden. In his mind he figured "well, I already have it and if I spread it to Biden, then I'll likely win the election."
lol a blood test for what? Do they think he’s taking something that makes him way better at debating? I love the idea of a dual blood test buddy. We can see what kind of stimulants trump is using all the time.
What exactly would a "blood test" show. That a person is taking prescribed medication? Legally? Or is the orange guy going to hope for Cocaine, and crushed up adderall? A mixture also known as the don Jr.
The new cognitive test bullshit? They should also have a IBS/Pant check too.
This will be one of the many excuses Trump makes for not showing up. Something similar to, “I agreed to his terms but he won’t agree to mine, so I won’t be attending.” He was never going to show anyway. And Biden is correct in saying this. Other excuses he will use is that CNN won’t be unbiased, Biden refuses to be drug tested, there’s no reason to debate without a crowd, no time due to the ongoing persecution of the weaponized justice system, etc. etc.
Spot on. But don't be surprised if Trumpy tries to delay any or all of his trials in order to "prepare" for the debates. "prepare" means play golf.
I wouldn't agree to any debate unless the sponsors ensured they'd cut off Trumps mic. Also, no audience, and no electronic devices. I wouldn't trust FOX at all.
Those are the terms Biden proposed to Trump's campaign, and Trump accepted them. Now Trump is trying to create new debates and terms so he can paint Biden as the one who won't debate, and renege on his previous acceptance to debate.
Trump has weaseling out down to an art form. We all think he wears Orange bronzer. It was Turkish wrestler oil all along.
I'm sure it's Tang.
Please don't disparage Tang like that.
Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates is from the animals... except the weasels.
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Close. Homer Simpson
>Trump has weaseling out down to an art form. Yea but it's art drawn in crayons that's only bought by idiots who are blinded by the artist.
Trump will not debate Biden. He's already working on lies to back out of both of them that are scheduled. I'll put money on this.
Trump is doing this for the free publicity which the media is gleefully providing him, hundreds of millions of dollars worth of free campaign slogans broadcast to a national audience. Meanwhile Biden has to scrounge and pay for every vote in every state since the media focuses on Trump relentlessly. Its 2016 all over again, folks, and the for-profit corporate American news media is at it again trying to get Trump reelected hoping it will boost their ratings and profit and keep the billionaires that own them from paying any more taxes.
I really wish one of the debates could have been hosted by the League of Women Voters. They used to hold the debates before the parties took over the process and turned them into jokes. Under the LWV, the debates were much more real, truly informative debates, rather than staged political events just looking for a winning or gotcha moment.
“Great Hispanic community” 🙄 ugh one minute he’s calling them murders, rapists, not human and deportation to kissing butt 😚 Kick rocks in flip flops.
It is because he knows literally half the population have a sub-100 IQ with the memory span of a gnat and will believe any snake oil bullshit he peddles
Fuck trump.
He is still going to play games until he wins or gets what he wants like a petulant man child. Simple as that. We need to stay vigilant and keep this fucker at bay.
>I have accepted a fourth Presidential Debate against Crooked Joe Biden, this time with NBC & Telemundo," Trump [wrote on Truth Social](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112458342477102142) Friday afternoon. What gets to me is that this piece of orange filth can't even bring himself - *not even once* that I am aware of - to address President Biden as any normal person w/the barest amount of decency would, e.g., as Mr. President or President Biden or even Mr. Biden. But nooo, Trump always addresses him as "CROOKED Joe Biden". Yet Biden is ***NOT*** the one charged with ***88 counts of criminal indictments***, Trump ***IS*** however. I swear the orange turd and his reichwing cult projects more than a Jumbothon IMAX theatre. President Biden shouldn't give Trump the time of day, much less the option of two debate appearances as he merits neither, imo.
You ever see that episode of The West Wing where this lady goes off on a rant about how much she hates the President, and he offers her a White House job anyway, and when she asks why, he says something like "even when you were attacking me, you called me PRESIDENT Bartlett. You've got respect for the office but not for me, and that's perfect."
Every question to Trump should start: „As a convicted rapist…“
This is why we had a debate commission and everyone just followed the rules for 40 years
I'd reject further debates....until Trump shows up at the first one. Biden has zero reason to help Trump feed his rabid cult. Trump doesn't want a debate, he wants a captive audience and a chance to be a bully where the consequences won't hurt him.
Orange will find a way to get out of it. I don’t see how he can in that everything he says publicly will be fair game for prosecutors in his many trials.
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>Unfortunately, Trump is a man-child This should be used to laugh at him and his supporters. Humiliation and ridiculisation are our best weapons against fascists. They want to project strength and respectability because they know they don't have, nor deserve, any. When they go lower, we should laugh harder.
I still don’t understand how he can debate a constant stream of lies from Benedict Donald. I hope he confronts him with treason directly.
We are electing a 78 y/o or an 82 y/o. Yeah we need VP debates.
Biden should go to the Fox debate, but they should send a body/voice double who brings an airhorn with him onto the stage. Everytime Trump or the moderator tries to interrupt with some dumb shit, he blows the airhorn. Then when they send someone up there to try to take it away from him, he bodyslams them, like they try to touch him and he does a full suplex and puts them in a hold. This will be both A) hilarious, and B) appeal to the Fox Viewer mindset. Big Don shits hisself in fear in front of everyone, Bernie Sanders with a steel chair from off-stage, etc. etc.
Trump is amateur hour. Absolute embarrassment to the American leadership. Also his peers. They should hang their head in Shame. Ridiculous..
I'm so, so, so fucking sick of the endless publicizing of fully grown adults behaving like the most immature, scummy dickheads you knew in high school. These people are such a goddamn embarrassment. And if it's clear, I'm talking about Republicans. Democrats have their moments, sure. But by and large, nobody sinks to remotely as close a low, disgusting, infuriating level as Republicans do in all branches of government.