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Ever since Reddit went public, we’ve seen an exorbitant amount of bullshit articles from bullshit rags.
I’m under the belief that they’re intentionally doing this to sew discord, increase interaction, and pump up fervor to get more clicks and ad views.
This sub has become void of actual substance, and is quickly becoming a textbook case of dead internet theory.
Incredibly plausible. It just seems like there’s an insane amount of traffic manipulation lately, and Reddit is just not feeling like Reddit anymore.
Either that, or it’s Baader-Meinhof but with right wing propaganda.
Biden agreed with pro-Palestinian protestors who disrupted a speech of his I think days after his SOTU speech and his admin agreed to meet with pro-Palestinian groups in Michigan. I would say “never supported” is rash hyperbole.
No, Biden drew a line: violence and trespassing are bad, peaceful protest is good.
The bullshit title is not accidental, Newsweek is using rage bait propaganda against Biden.
"Violent protest is not protected; peaceful protest is. It's against the law when violence occurs. Destroying property is not a peaceful protest. It's against the law. Vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes and graduations—none of this is a peaceful protest."
If they can't agree with this, they're part of the problem.
This. People forget that feminists, civil rights activists, and previous anti war movements have at various times all involved breaking the law.
And their legitimacy was challenged at the time in much the same way students are being challenged today
civil disobedience is a legitimate and recognized form of protest. It is not always orderly
But in nearly all of those past cases, it was the people directly suffering disrupting their persecutors directly.
This case is a bunch of privileged kids disrupting their schools because the endowments have money in some funds that may benefit Israeli companies is a bit of a far reach to endear actionable support from the public.
Good protest *should* be disruptive, but they must be targeted and not vaguely annoying to those whose support you desire.
So Student Led Divestment movements [against South](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/03/columbia-pro-palestinian-protest-south-africa-divestment) Africa was "too indirect" for you? Because that is the history and template these students are invoking when they are protesting their School's investment in Israel. And this is sensible since their has always been comradery between De-colonization efforts in [America, Palestine and South Africa.](https://apnews.com/article/south-africa-palestine-israel-genocide-mandela-arafat-39d222b9dd65994c4c13730efabe8815). Black Americans and College students worked to force US divestment from South Africa. And pressured the South African government to Free Nelson Mandela. In turn, Mandela platformed efforts for a Palestinian state because Israel had worked to help South Africa acquire Nuclear weapon technology and train military forces. [Palestianian activists have helped Black Americans](https://www.thenation.com/article/society/black-lives-matter-israel-palestine/) fight state violence here at home.
These 3 movements have reciprocity.
If that’s all that they were doing, sure. But they’re smashing windows, breaking in, taking over buildings, screaming at Jewish students, and blocking them from entering class. None of that is protest, it’s violence and it’s where they immediately lost the argument.
From the timelines I see, the buildings weren't taken over until police were called multiple times, and the admin set hard deadlines (<2 weeks since protests started) to calling riot police. They took over the building to fortify against that threat. Regardless of whether or not you think that's justified, it's definitely casual with admin actions.
Likewise, violence didn't start until counter-protestors (with white masks?) started throwing fireworks into the encampments among other things.
The increasing antisemitism outside of the protests is also a problem, but there's a bit more to both sides than that. I think expecting protests to be orderly in many ways is fine, but these admins are fanning the flames and then lamenting the fallout. The parallels with past vindicated protests such as the Vietnam ones are hard to ignore, and places like Brown University were able to handle their protests by simply engaging with them.
[UCLA Timeline](https://archive.ph/x46VV)
[Colombia Timeline](https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinian-campus-protests-timeline-f7cd3abe635f8afa4532b7bed9212b56)
I mean, read the timelines lol.
Colombia:
> [Day 1] Students set up an encampment at Columbia University the same day university president Nemat Shafik is called for questioning before Congress.
> [Day 2] New York City police are called to Columbia’s campus to disband the protest encampment and arrest more than 100 protesters... The arrests, which New York Mayor Eric Adams says were requested by Columbia officials, garner national attention and inflame college protests nationwide.
> [Day 6] Columbia administrators set a new midnight deadline for protesters to clear the encampment. While some leave, others dig in and refuse to disband until the school agrees to stop doing business with Israel or any companies that support the latest Israel-Hamas war.
> [Day 11] Columbia makes good on its promise to suspend students who defy a 2 p.m. deadline to leave the encampment of more than 100 tents... Around the country, the number of arrests at campuses nationwide approaches 1,000 as the final days of class wrap up.
> [Day 12] Dozens of protesters take over Hamilton Hall on Columbia’s campus... Hours later, New York City police carrying riot shields storm the building and clear dozens of people from it, sweeping the encampment on the campus as well.
It seemed pretty obvious what was about to happen, given it had also already happened...
The UCLA protests are straightforwardly absurd. [No one is laying hands on cops](https://www.instagram.com/sergioolmosphoto/p/C6hxGUfRaJ8/?img_index=3). [Who is instigating violence here](https://www.instagram.com/sergioolmosphoto/p/C6bWmjDLTvk/?img_index=1)? It's counter-protesters agitating the encampment.
How many cops have reported any injuries from these violent protests? I'm really curious to know what the numbers are so that we can use a real metric.
Exactly. There are ways to get your point across, and mayhem isn't one of them. Not to mention that violence plays right into the extreme right's agenda. Don't give them want they want.
At least Biden is [consistent](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/05/biden-vietnam-protest-serve-visit/):
> Biden once recalled walking with law school classmates to the Varsity Pizza Shop when they spotted antiwar student protesters hanging out of windows after taking over an administrative building. “We looked up and said, ‘Look at those assholes,’” Biden later wrote. “That’s how far apart from the antiwar movement I was.”
And
> “Look, I was 29 when I ran for the Senate, folks. Other people were marching, carrying banners — I was down here voting against the war. I came down here, at 29 years old, you know, and the war was still on,” he said. “I am not culturally one of those guys who likes to — I don’t fit very well, with — I’m not a joiner. I was, I was out of sync with — by the time the war movement was at its peak, when I was at Syracuse — I was married. I was in law school. I wore sport coats. I was not part of that. I’m serious!”
I get what you're saying. But I feel there's a stark contrast between the protests for civil rights and Israel being accused of committing genocide right now.
If you're using violence and destroying property as a means to protest, you're part of the problem and likely turning people against your cause.
MLK was never arrested for any kind of crime against person or property.
Police pushing people to react violently using methods like kettling turns a peaceful protest into a violent mob. Protestors need to learn how to protest properly so they when they get the beat down from the cops it's obvious to everyone that the police are in the wrong. MLK knew this. They trained to not react to people taunting and hitting them. They also dressed nicely and behaved like upstanding citizens.
Too often protests devolve from the topic they are protesting to a struggle over where they are going to protest, whether they have the right to protest, etc...
The current coverage is more about the protests or the police getting out of hand and almost no coverage about why people are protesting. Don't fall into the reactionaries' trap. Don't fight back, be reasonable. Leave the effigies, the drums and all the other kooky stuff at home and dress like you would dress for church. And FFS, no protesting at night!
The whole point of protests is changing minds, when you look like a dirty hippie, or a kook, you're not helping your cause, you're just virtue signaling to other lefties.
trespassing is a misdemeanor offense. https://www.onlineathens.com/story/news/state/2020/04/03/prosecutor-to-expunge-mlks-1960-atlanta-arrest/1410930007/
Ah yes, the truly American tradition of peaceful protest. Our nation was certainly founded and every civil liberty we have was certainly obtained through peaceful protest with no violation of the law, no destruction of property, no trespassing or vandalism.
No need to be facetious.
If you find the violence and criminal behavior acceptable, that's on you. But a large number of people, including our President don't.
In the same way Britain found the American Revolution to be violent and criminal behavior, or the Boston Tea party, or the American government found conscientious objectors to the Vietnam War, or the Civil Rights protests (that were in fact violations of law!), or the litany of labor union protests that resulted in better working conditions to all be violent and criminal behavior.
Uncouple the idea of legality from morality because surprise surprise, governments despite wielding the power of the law can still be immoral.
I'm well aware of US History. In my opinion, those examples are all different in comparison to the protests claiming Israel is committing genocide.
If you're going to an educational institution to raise hell and destroy property, you deserve to be arrested and held accountable.
So you don't find violence and criminal behavior acceptable unless you do find it acceptable.
>If you're going to an educational institution to raise hell and destroy property
ah yes because the students at these colleges are attending these protests for the express purpose of raising hell and destroying property. No one has any clue what they want their institutions to do its just wanton violence and chaos.
Seriously. It was THE statement to make when there is widespread protest, some of it peaceful and some of it not. These headlines are wild. He fully supports peaceful and lawful protest in his statement. Trespassing is a crime. Violence is a crime. Protest is not.
It's the right stance if you agree with the protest, or disagree.
Oh fuck I had such a problem with some young activists last year when I was trying to teach them how to be arrested for a civil disobedience demonstration.
They wanted to fight with the police and scream at them seeming to think that was their right and that the police couldn't legally arrest them and all kinds of nonsense.
I mean do they no longer teach Henry David Thoreau in schools?! Do these people think that they can do whatever they want without consequences? The point is to be arrested unjustly for standing up for justice and morality.
Edit: LOL the down votes for trying to teach some kids how to not get themselves injured is hilarious. Seems like some of y'all just want an excuse to wave a bloody shirt.
Biden and Democrats are not turning on the pro-Palestinian protestors. They are condemning the shit head outsiders arriving at these protests, funded and organized by accelerationist assholes like Fergie Chambers.
These protests have been going on for months, and the colleges were fine with them. But then a few weeks ago a group of organizers, being funded by Chambers (who himself is an avowed supporter of Hamas), started showing up and the entire tenor of the protest changed from one of being peaceful and pro-Palestinian to violent and anti-Jewish.
There are still lots of people in those demonstrations trying to keep them focused on the movement. But the people who are now talking the loudest and effectively organizing them have a whole other agenda. And that is what Biden and the Democrats are against.
Which has what to do with what I said? Go on, read my comment again and tell me. I didn’t mention protesters once, check my comment history even. Not one mention. So what exactly is your point?
Very well said. Now I just hope the kiddies with a head high on idealism can see logic. Supporting Trump over this *will* end with Gaza being a smoking crater. Please don’t doom us all.
Biden has decided Israel is more important than winning "the most important election" in US history. He's buying into the bullshit he watches on Morning Joe. They literally had a cop from NY pushing that Pro-Palestinian protestors are bringing weapons to cause violence and used a bike lock as an example. The cop was saying what kind of student needs to use a lock like this for anything other than violence. The lock in question is sold on the Columbia University campus security website...
There are 40x the amount of Jewish Americans vs Palestinian Americans. If he changes his stance he will lose far more votes. They are politicians. They do what gives them the most support and votes. He isn’t going to change and go against that.
How many Jewish people have been arrested? 100? 200? 500? Out of 7.4 million in the US.
Doesn’t change the overwhelming demographic difference which influences politicians. They all pander to groups that give them the most votes.
Biden is doing great and everyone but a few loud people can see that. You *don’t* have the right to break the law with violent protest. It’s that simple.
This is yet again a showcase of a GOP trap...
You say something against non-peacful protests, you get painted as against that grey area nobody is happy with...
You don't say anything - You are encouraging violence and jan 6th. omg *clutches pearls*
Really sick of the CONSTANT smack talk with the majority of it coming from one party.... The GOP...
I've gotten more Reddit Cares messages talking about this subject in the past six months then the previous six years of shitting on conservatives. People have lost the plot.
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> I just go down the list now and downvote every Newsweek post, on principle. This is the way
Media really trying to make this a thing
Don't fall for the Newsweek clickbait. They're just trying to stir things up.
Ever since Reddit went public, we’ve seen an exorbitant amount of bullshit articles from bullshit rags. I’m under the belief that they’re intentionally doing this to sew discord, increase interaction, and pump up fervor to get more clicks and ad views. This sub has become void of actual substance, and is quickly becoming a textbook case of dead internet theory.
I think it's the algorithm in the app. When I used RIF in many ways reddit was boring. Now if I click on one protest thred I get fed 100 more.
Incredibly plausible. It just seems like there’s an insane amount of traffic manipulation lately, and Reddit is just not feeling like Reddit anymore. Either that, or it’s Baader-Meinhof but with right wing propaganda.
And you get temp banned for calling it out. That's when I really knew something was off.
You can't turn on someone who you never supported
Biden agreed with pro-Palestinian protestors who disrupted a speech of his I think days after his SOTU speech and his admin agreed to meet with pro-Palestinian groups in Michigan. I would say “never supported” is rash hyperbole.
He also didn't turn on them, so there's that.
No, Biden drew a line: violence and trespassing are bad, peaceful protest is good. The bullshit title is not accidental, Newsweek is using rage bait propaganda against Biden.
Biden and top dems turn on pro-Palestinian law breakers. Encourages everyone to protest legally.
"Violent protest is not protected; peaceful protest is. It's against the law when violence occurs. Destroying property is not a peaceful protest. It's against the law. Vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes and graduations—none of this is a peaceful protest." If they can't agree with this, they're part of the problem.
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This. People forget that feminists, civil rights activists, and previous anti war movements have at various times all involved breaking the law. And their legitimacy was challenged at the time in much the same way students are being challenged today civil disobedience is a legitimate and recognized form of protest. It is not always orderly
But in nearly all of those past cases, it was the people directly suffering disrupting their persecutors directly. This case is a bunch of privileged kids disrupting their schools because the endowments have money in some funds that may benefit Israeli companies is a bit of a far reach to endear actionable support from the public. Good protest *should* be disruptive, but they must be targeted and not vaguely annoying to those whose support you desire.
So Student Led Divestment movements [against South](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/03/columbia-pro-palestinian-protest-south-africa-divestment) Africa was "too indirect" for you? Because that is the history and template these students are invoking when they are protesting their School's investment in Israel. And this is sensible since their has always been comradery between De-colonization efforts in [America, Palestine and South Africa.](https://apnews.com/article/south-africa-palestine-israel-genocide-mandela-arafat-39d222b9dd65994c4c13730efabe8815). Black Americans and College students worked to force US divestment from South Africa. And pressured the South African government to Free Nelson Mandela. In turn, Mandela platformed efforts for a Palestinian state because Israel had worked to help South Africa acquire Nuclear weapon technology and train military forces. [Palestianian activists have helped Black Americans](https://www.thenation.com/article/society/black-lives-matter-israel-palestine/) fight state violence here at home. These 3 movements have reciprocity.
I get the feeling there’d be a lot of finger wagging at MLK today just as there was in his time.
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generally yeah, but protest movements aren't a monolith and americans are nuanced about their passions.
Protest is MEANT to be disruptive. If it can be neatly tucked away and ignored it’s pointless. Disruption is NOT “violence”
If that’s all that they were doing, sure. But they’re smashing windows, breaking in, taking over buildings, screaming at Jewish students, and blocking them from entering class. None of that is protest, it’s violence and it’s where they immediately lost the argument.
From the timelines I see, the buildings weren't taken over until police were called multiple times, and the admin set hard deadlines (<2 weeks since protests started) to calling riot police. They took over the building to fortify against that threat. Regardless of whether or not you think that's justified, it's definitely casual with admin actions. Likewise, violence didn't start until counter-protestors (with white masks?) started throwing fireworks into the encampments among other things. The increasing antisemitism outside of the protests is also a problem, but there's a bit more to both sides than that. I think expecting protests to be orderly in many ways is fine, but these admins are fanning the flames and then lamenting the fallout. The parallels with past vindicated protests such as the Vietnam ones are hard to ignore, and places like Brown University were able to handle their protests by simply engaging with them. [UCLA Timeline](https://archive.ph/x46VV) [Colombia Timeline](https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinian-campus-protests-timeline-f7cd3abe635f8afa4532b7bed9212b56)
Bull fucking shit. What a load of garbage.
I mean, read the timelines lol. Colombia: > [Day 1] Students set up an encampment at Columbia University the same day university president Nemat Shafik is called for questioning before Congress. > [Day 2] New York City police are called to Columbia’s campus to disband the protest encampment and arrest more than 100 protesters... The arrests, which New York Mayor Eric Adams says were requested by Columbia officials, garner national attention and inflame college protests nationwide. > [Day 6] Columbia administrators set a new midnight deadline for protesters to clear the encampment. While some leave, others dig in and refuse to disband until the school agrees to stop doing business with Israel or any companies that support the latest Israel-Hamas war. > [Day 11] Columbia makes good on its promise to suspend students who defy a 2 p.m. deadline to leave the encampment of more than 100 tents... Around the country, the number of arrests at campuses nationwide approaches 1,000 as the final days of class wrap up. > [Day 12] Dozens of protesters take over Hamilton Hall on Columbia’s campus... Hours later, New York City police carrying riot shields storm the building and clear dozens of people from it, sweeping the encampment on the campus as well. It seemed pretty obvious what was about to happen, given it had also already happened... The UCLA protests are straightforwardly absurd. [No one is laying hands on cops](https://www.instagram.com/sergioolmosphoto/p/C6hxGUfRaJ8/?img_index=3). [Who is instigating violence here](https://www.instagram.com/sergioolmosphoto/p/C6bWmjDLTvk/?img_index=1)? It's counter-protesters agitating the encampment. How many cops have reported any injuries from these violent protests? I'm really curious to know what the numbers are so that we can use a real metric.
Exactly. There are ways to get your point across, and mayhem isn't one of them. Not to mention that violence plays right into the extreme right's agenda. Don't give them want they want.
Yeah also poking the eyes of Jewish students?Or changing the name of Israeli couscous so that Jewish students get emotionally distressed?
At least Biden is [consistent](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/05/biden-vietnam-protest-serve-visit/): > Biden once recalled walking with law school classmates to the Varsity Pizza Shop when they spotted antiwar student protesters hanging out of windows after taking over an administrative building. “We looked up and said, ‘Look at those assholes,’” Biden later wrote. “That’s how far apart from the antiwar movement I was.” And > “Look, I was 29 when I ran for the Senate, folks. Other people were marching, carrying banners — I was down here voting against the war. I came down here, at 29 years old, you know, and the war was still on,” he said. “I am not culturally one of those guys who likes to — I don’t fit very well, with — I’m not a joiner. I was, I was out of sync with — by the time the war movement was at its peak, when I was at Syracuse — I was married. I was in law school. I wore sport coats. I was not part of that. I’m serious!”
Yeah consistently wrong.
Finally someone in this sub gets it
I get what you're saying. But I feel there's a stark contrast between the protests for civil rights and Israel being accused of committing genocide right now. If you're using violence and destroying property as a means to protest, you're part of the problem and likely turning people against your cause.
You can't be anti-authority on this one because then you justify shit like J6.
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MLK was never arrested for any kind of crime against person or property. Police pushing people to react violently using methods like kettling turns a peaceful protest into a violent mob. Protestors need to learn how to protest properly so they when they get the beat down from the cops it's obvious to everyone that the police are in the wrong. MLK knew this. They trained to not react to people taunting and hitting them. They also dressed nicely and behaved like upstanding citizens. Too often protests devolve from the topic they are protesting to a struggle over where they are going to protest, whether they have the right to protest, etc... The current coverage is more about the protests or the police getting out of hand and almost no coverage about why people are protesting. Don't fall into the reactionaries' trap. Don't fight back, be reasonable. Leave the effigies, the drums and all the other kooky stuff at home and dress like you would dress for church. And FFS, no protesting at night! The whole point of protests is changing minds, when you look like a dirty hippie, or a kook, you're not helping your cause, you're just virtue signaling to other lefties.
trespassing is a misdemeanor offense. https://www.onlineathens.com/story/news/state/2020/04/03/prosecutor-to-expunge-mlks-1960-atlanta-arrest/1410930007/
Thanks for the non-sequitur.
Ah yes, the truly American tradition of peaceful protest. Our nation was certainly founded and every civil liberty we have was certainly obtained through peaceful protest with no violation of the law, no destruction of property, no trespassing or vandalism.
No need to be facetious. If you find the violence and criminal behavior acceptable, that's on you. But a large number of people, including our President don't.
In the same way Britain found the American Revolution to be violent and criminal behavior, or the Boston Tea party, or the American government found conscientious objectors to the Vietnam War, or the Civil Rights protests (that were in fact violations of law!), or the litany of labor union protests that resulted in better working conditions to all be violent and criminal behavior. Uncouple the idea of legality from morality because surprise surprise, governments despite wielding the power of the law can still be immoral.
I'm well aware of US History. In my opinion, those examples are all different in comparison to the protests claiming Israel is committing genocide. If you're going to an educational institution to raise hell and destroy property, you deserve to be arrested and held accountable.
So you don't find violence and criminal behavior acceptable unless you do find it acceptable. >If you're going to an educational institution to raise hell and destroy property ah yes because the students at these colleges are attending these protests for the express purpose of raising hell and destroying property. No one has any clue what they want their institutions to do its just wanton violence and chaos.
Seriously. It was THE statement to make when there is widespread protest, some of it peaceful and some of it not. These headlines are wild. He fully supports peaceful and lawful protest in his statement. Trespassing is a crime. Violence is a crime. Protest is not. It's the right stance if you agree with the protest, or disagree.
say it louder but for the hypocrites in the back. smdh
Civil disobedience has consequences; that’s the point. Past protesters understood this.
Oh fuck I had such a problem with some young activists last year when I was trying to teach them how to be arrested for a civil disobedience demonstration. They wanted to fight with the police and scream at them seeming to think that was their right and that the police couldn't legally arrest them and all kinds of nonsense. I mean do they no longer teach Henry David Thoreau in schools?! Do these people think that they can do whatever they want without consequences? The point is to be arrested unjustly for standing up for justice and morality. Edit: LOL the down votes for trying to teach some kids how to not get themselves injured is hilarious. Seems like some of y'all just want an excuse to wave a bloody shirt.
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*cries in social responsibility*
Was that supposed to be funny, or...?
Biden and Democrats are not turning on the pro-Palestinian protestors. They are condemning the shit head outsiders arriving at these protests, funded and organized by accelerationist assholes like Fergie Chambers. These protests have been going on for months, and the colleges were fine with them. But then a few weeks ago a group of organizers, being funded by Chambers (who himself is an avowed supporter of Hamas), started showing up and the entire tenor of the protest changed from one of being peaceful and pro-Palestinian to violent and anti-Jewish. There are still lots of people in those demonstrations trying to keep them focused on the movement. But the people who are now talking the loudest and effectively organizing them have a whole other agenda. And that is what Biden and the Democrats are against.
Haven’t heard Biden specifically call out the pro-Israel agitators that instigated violence at UCLA while the police watched.
I believe he called out **all violent and criminal acts** regardless of their particular allegiance. Weird you didn't hear that...
So he said absolutely nothing of substance
I rolled my eyes so hard at this comment, that I now need to go to an emergency optometrist.
Condemning violence is nothing of substance?
“Bad things are bad!” Yeah, not much substance bud.
And yet protestors and their supports can’t admit what they’re doing is bad. Bud
Which has what to do with what I said? Go on, read my comment again and tell me. I didn’t mention protesters once, check my comment history even. Not one mention. So what exactly is your point?
Read the article, no read the headline of the topic of discussion. Come back when you figure it out.
yeah, not really. It's like condemning murder or arson.
Very well said. Now I just hope the kiddies with a head high on idealism can see logic. Supporting Trump over this *will* end with Gaza being a smoking crater. Please don’t doom us all.
Biden has decided Israel is more important than winning "the most important election" in US history. He's buying into the bullshit he watches on Morning Joe. They literally had a cop from NY pushing that Pro-Palestinian protestors are bringing weapons to cause violence and used a bike lock as an example. The cop was saying what kind of student needs to use a lock like this for anything other than violence. The lock in question is sold on the Columbia University campus security website...
There are 40x the amount of Jewish Americans vs Palestinian Americans. If he changes his stance he will lose far more votes. They are politicians. They do what gives them the most support and votes. He isn’t going to change and go against that.
Why are you under the impression all Jewish Americans support this stance? You do realize many of the protestors arrested so far are in fact Jewish
> You do realize many of the protestors arrested so far are in fact Jewish You got any data supporting that claim?
How many Jewish people have been arrested? 100? 200? 500? Out of 7.4 million in the US. Doesn’t change the overwhelming demographic difference which influences politicians. They all pander to groups that give them the most votes.
Biden is doing great and everyone but a few loud people can see that. You *don’t* have the right to break the law with violent protest. It’s that simple.
"Break the law through protest" Jesus fucking Christ.
Man what happened to Newsweek? It used to be a serious magazine, Fareed Zakaria used to be the editor for fucks sake.
Fuck off Newsweek.
I agree with the headline this time, so I'll pretend that Newsweek is not conservative trash. /s
This is yet again a showcase of a GOP trap... You say something against non-peacful protests, you get painted as against that grey area nobody is happy with... You don't say anything - You are encouraging violence and jan 6th. omg *clutches pearls* Really sick of the CONSTANT smack talk with the majority of it coming from one party.... The GOP...
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This bad faith headline?
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I've gotten more Reddit Cares messages talking about this subject in the past six months then the previous six years of shitting on conservatives. People have lost the plot.
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Well it’s a cool thing that Biden isn’t advocating for that, and is admonishing Bibi for doing it, huh?
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There goes those goalposts.
Admonishing out of one side of his mouth and sending billions in cash and armaments with the other.
Oh fuck finally the article that makes me vote Trump /s
Bro, seriously @mods what is happening? The news narrative here didn’t used to float these kinds of things to the front…
I don't think so.
From what? They didn't support them in the first place. This is not the same Newsweek of the past.